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- 0:04Jen Oliver: Welcome to the, so that's Why podcast, where we unpack the
- 0:08science behind everyday questions.
- 0:10I'm Jen.
- 0:11Chris Smith: I'm Chris.
- 0:12Matt Edmundson: And I'm Matt.
- 0:13Jen Oliver: Right.
- 0:14Picture this, two people on treadmills next to each other.
- 0:18Same pace, same incline, same duration.
- 0:22One.
- 0:22Looks like they stepped out of a magazine shoot, barely a bead of sweat visible
- 0:27the other absolutely drenched, looking like they've run through a sprinkler.
- 0:32Why do some people sweat buckets while others stay mysteriously
- 0:36dry when they exercise?
- 0:38Chris Smith: Well, did you know fact fans, when it comes to mammals,
- 0:42we are the sweating champions.
- 0:45So humans have the highest density of sweat glands of any mammal.
- 0:48Jen Oliver: Feel like we need a certificate for that.
- 0:51By the end of this episode, you'll discover your brain acts
- 0:55as a sophisticated thermostat.
- 0:57Your sweat glands operate like tiny factories with
- 1:01different production capacities.
- 1:03And of course there's genetics involved.
- 1:06Matt Edmundson: And of course, we're gonna unpack whether being a heavy
- 1:09sweater means you're actually fitter.
- 1:12Chris Smith: And I think a good place to start is to let quantify how rates
- 1:16of sweating vary between individuals.
- 1:19So that variation can mean sweating between half a liter per hour and two and
- 1:23a half liters per hour in some athletes.
- 1:25So that's more than a five fold difference for, for a similar exercise.
- 1:29Jen Oliver: Wait, two and a half liters, that's more than two large bottles
- 1:33of water coming out of your skin.
- 1:36Every hour I've had workouts where I thought I was sweating
- 1:39buckets, but apparently I'm not even in the major leagues.
- 1:42Chris Smith: Absolutely.
- 1:43Yeah.
- 1:43And sweating directly affects your performance and safety too.
- 1:46So studies show even a 2% dehydration caused by sweating can
- 1:50decrease performance by a fifth.
- 1:52Jen Oliver: So if you are a high sweater and you don't know it, you could be
- 1:56unknowingly compromising every workout.
- 1:58Chris Smith: Totally.
- 1:59And the stakes really are high.
- 2:00Because 40 to 50% of athletes underestimate their sweat losses.
- 2:04So this affects heart rate, perceived exertion and temperature regulation.
- 2:09Matt Edmundson: So this is literally about whether your body
- 2:11can perform the way you want.
- 2:13Right?
- 2:14I see people at the gym all the time chugging water, or some people don't
- 2:18barely drink at all, and I wonder.
- 2:20Actually how well we know our own sweatpants in all of this.
- 2:24Chris Smith: Yeah, really good point.
- 2:25And to make it even more complicated, apologies that we've gotta think
- 2:28about environmental factors too.
- 2:30'cause they do come into play.
- 2:32So the same person can have around a 10% change in their sweat rate
- 2:36just from a change in temperature.
- 2:38Humidity or hydra, how hydrated they are going into exercise.
- 2:42Jen Oliver: But this isn't random.
- 2:43There's sophisticated biology determining whether you're a
- 2:46light sweater or not, right?
- 2:48Matt Edmundson: Absolutely.
- 2:49And I guess once we understand it, we can actually work with our
- 2:53bodies and understand them better.
- 2:56Chris Smith: So the biology
- 2:58Matt Edmundson: done, done,
- 3:00Chris Smith: the hypothalamus is basically your body's thermostat and it's
- 3:04monitoring core temperature and making split second cooling decisions for you.
- 3:09So when your core temperature rises during exercise, even by half a degree.
- 3:14Thermoreceptors sends signals to the hypothalamus and that triggers
- 3:17activation of sweat glands automatically.
- 3:20Clever, right?
- 3:20Jen Oliver: It's brilliant.
- 3:21So my brain decides how much to sweat without me having any say.
- 3:26Chris Smith: Exactly.
- 3:27Matt Edmundson: And that's why you see people struggling in hot gyms
- 3:30or during summer workouts, right?
- 3:32Their bodies are trying to manage this critical emergency
- 3:36system, and if it can't keep up.
- 3:38We all know it.
- 3:39Performance tanks.
- 3:40Jen Oliver: Well, if we've all got the same system, why do some
- 3:43people's emergency systems set seem to set on gentle mist while
- 3:48others are on like a fire hose mode?
- 3:51Chris Smith: Well, yeah.
- 3:52So this comes down to your individual sweat gland architecture,
- 3:55for want of a better word.
- 3:56So sweat gland density varies significantly across the body
- 4:00and between different people.
- 4:02So if you have sweaty palms or sweaty feet, it's no surprise really because
- 4:06they have the highest concentration of sweat glands across the body.
- 4:10Now, sweat gland density decreases with body surface area, meaning larger people
- 4:14generally have lower gland densities.
- 4:18Jen Oliver: So what you're saying is bigger people have
- 4:20fewer sweat glands per area.
- 4:22Chris Smith: That's right.
- 4:23But.
- 4:24They might compensate with, um, having higher output per gland.
- 4:29So sweat glands are really clever in how they work.
- 4:32Each gland produces fluid similar to blood plasma, but then a
- 4:35duct reabsorbs, sodium chloride
- 4:38Jen Oliver: like a factory with quality control.
- 4:40Chris Smith: Exactly.
- 4:41And the kind, these little kind of water treatment plants.
- 4:44Um, and they include.
- 4:45Like individual variations in reabsorption create differences
- 4:49in both sweat rate and saltiness
- 4:51Matt Edmundson: saltiness, which may explain why some people leave salt stains
- 4:55in their workout gear and others don't.
- 4:57Right?
- 4:57Like I've, I've got that friend whose gym shirt looks like
- 5:01it's been through a salt mine.
- 5:03Uh, whilst mine don't always, thankfully.
- 5:06Jen Oliver: Well, I'm curious about the genetic component here are some
- 5:09people just born to be better sweaters.
- 5:12Chris Smith: They are.
- 5:12Yeah.
- 5:13So the genes involved in sweat gland development come into
- 5:15play while with still embryos.
- 5:17Jen Oliver: So my DNA essentially predetermined my relationship with sweat.
- 5:21Chris Smith: Absolutely.
- 5:21Right?
- 5:22Yeah.
- 5:22And gender's also a factor.
- 5:23So women have higher sweat gland densities due to smaller surface
- 5:27area, but men produce higher absolute sweat rates during intense exercise.
- 5:32Jen Oliver: And higher sweat rate means better cooling, right?
- 5:36Chris Smith: Well, not necessarily.
- 5:37So it's about efficiency.
- 5:38So efficiency matters way more than volume.
- 5:42If sweat isn't evaporating efficiently or causes excess
- 5:45fluid loss, more isn't better.
- 5:47Matt Edmundson: Right.
- 5:48So you see this again and don't you, in the gym really humid days.
- 5:52People are absolutely drenched, but still medically overheating because the sweat
- 5:57just sits there instead of evaporating doing what it's supposed to do.
- 6:00Jen Oliver: That's gross.
- 6:03Matt Edmundson: It is.
- 6:03But you know, welcome to the gym.
- 6:05Jen Oliver: Yeah, but that's real life.
- 6:07But what about age?
- 6:08I noticed younger people seem to be able to handle a heat better.
- 6:11Chris Smith: Yeah, it's true.
- 6:12So older adults show reduced sweat gland responsiveness, like
- 6:15compared to their younger people.
- 6:17Jen Oliver: And how do these biological differences play out in real people then?
- 6:21Chris Smith: So there was a study of over 1000 athletes and it found
- 6:25that males averaged about 1.3 liter per hour of sweat loss, whereas
- 6:30females just under one liter.
- 6:32But the range still within these groups was enormous.
- 6:35Jen Oliver: And what about fit?
- 6:35People who sweat buckets?
- 6:37I'm drenched after warmups, while others haven't even removed their jackets.
- 6:40I mean, am I outta shape?
- 6:41I didn't think I was.
- 6:43Chris Smith: No.
- 6:43So actually this busts a major myth.
- 6:45So fitter individuals often sweat more at the same intensity.
- 6:50Jen Oliver: Woo.
- 6:51Matt Edmundson: Well that's good news.
- 6:52Uh, so being a heavy sweater can actually then be a badge of honor.
- 6:56Right.
- 6:56Which changes everything for people who might feel
- 6:59self-conscious about their sweating.
- 7:00Jen Oliver: Yeah.
- 7:01Chris Smith: Yeah.
- 7:01Potentially.
- 7:02If you look at people at their kind of peak fitness, they begin sweating within
- 7:06one to two minutes, but whereas it's kind of five plus minutes for people
- 7:11who are less trained, so your body learns to be proactive about cooling.
- 7:15Jen Oliver: So sweating and waterfalls might actually mean my
- 7:19cooling system is working better.
- 7:21Chris Smith: Exactly.
- 7:22So your body is anticipating the heat rather than just trying to react to it.
- 7:25Jen Oliver: Yeah.
- 7:26'cause I notice in the summer the heat often you deal with it better, don't you?
- 7:29By August.
- 7:31So does that mean my sweat system is adapting?
- 7:33Chris Smith: It is, yeah.
- 7:34So after about one to two weeks of.
- 7:36Regular heat exposure while you're exercising, you acclimatize
- 7:40and your sweat system adapts.
- 7:41So it includes like leading to improved sodium conservation too.
- 7:46Matt Edmundson: Sodium conservation.
- 7:48Great phrase.
- 7:49So my body then actually is just becomes better at dealing with salt.
- 7:52Right.
- 7:52Becomes more economical with salt, which is actually one of the incredible
- 7:57things about our human bodies.
- 7:58Jen Oliver: Mm-hmm.
- 7:59Chris Smith: It is.
- 7:59And heat acclimatized people produce.
- 8:02Dilute sweat.
- 8:03So about six times less sodium than un acclimatized people.
- 8:07Jen Oliver: What about medical conditions that affect sweat?
- 8:10Do they exist?
- 8:11Chris Smith: Yeah, so the biggest is hyperhydrosis, and this is a condition
- 8:15that affects about 3% of adults and it causes excess sweating within the body.
- 8:20So the body's basically stuck in its cooling mode.
- 8:23Matt Edmundson: Mm-hmm.
- 8:23Yeah, I've heard of this, eh, and, and thankfully I don't suffer
- 8:25with it, but imagine sweating even when air conditioning's on you.
- 8:29I mean, that's gotta be hard.
- 8:30Yeah.
- 8:30Chris Smith: Yeah, absolutely.
- 8:31And the opposite is another condition, it's called anhidrosis.
- 8:35And anhidrosis is the inability to sweat and this, but this can lead
- 8:39to like serious heat exposure risks and affected individuals often
- 8:43can't rely on their body's natural cooling system during exercise.
- 8:46So it can be very dangerous.
- 8:48Jen Oliver: Okay.
- 8:48So what can we do with all this information about sweat?
- 8:51Chris Smith: So one thing you can do is calculate your personal sweat rate.
- 8:55Sounds weird.
- 8:56Jen Oliver: You're gonna totally do this, I'm sure.
- 8:58Yeah,
- 8:58Matt Edmundson: I'm, I'm doing it.
- 8:58I'm totally doing it.
- 8:59I'm taking notes.
- 9:00Chris Smith: So here's the method.
- 9:02First of all, weigh yourself before you exercise.
- 9:04Then exercise for an hour without drinking and weigh yourself again.
- 9:08And if you take that weight difference in kilograms, you can times that figure
- 9:12by 1000 and it gives you the personal sweat rate in milliliter to per hour.
- 9:18Jen Oliver: So if I lose a kilogram, which probably happens
- 9:20regularly, 'cause I do sweat, that's a thousand milliliters hourly.
- 9:24I do actually get really thirsty on workout days.
- 9:27So that's probably why.
- 9:28Chris Smith: Yeah, but many athletes actually, when it comes to like
- 9:32dehydration, many, many athletes think they need a hundred percent replacement
- 9:36during exercise, but that's not the case and can actually be dangerous 'cause it
- 9:40can de deplete your electrolyte balance.
- 9:41Mm-hmm.
- 9:41Matt Edmundson: Yeah.
- 9:42Now I've seen this a people forcing themselves to drink.
- 9:45A lot of water rather than listening to their bodies.
- 9:48And it used to be when I used to work on the ambos, as we say,
- 9:51Jen Oliver: ambulances, for those that dunno.
- 9:54Matt Edmundson: When we used to work on the ambos at marathons, there was this
- 9:57real issue that you had with runners who would just drink water because they
- 10:00felt they needed to hydrate, which they do, but it depleted their electrolytes
- 10:04and over a long period of time.
- 10:06They actually got really ill.
- 10:08So current recommendations suggest replacing about 150% of losses over
- 10:14time, not just during exercise.
- 10:16Jen Oliver: So we don't need to constantly drink during water during our workouts.
- 10:20Chris Smith: That's right.
- 10:21Not necessarily, no.
- 10:22So your body handles some dehydration during exercise.
- 10:25Absolutely fine.
- 10:25So up to 2% of body weight loss is acceptable.
- 10:30The key is managing your hydration based on your individual routine.
- 10:33Yeah.
- 10:33Jen Oliver: So for those high sweaters out there, um, that are
- 10:37losing over like one and a half liters an hour, what's the strategy?
- 10:41Chris Smith: So I'd say pre-exercise, hydration is key, and then
- 10:45moderate intake during exercise.
- 10:47So don't overdo it.
- 10:48And then really focusing on that post-exercise, rehydration,
- 10:51potentially including electrolytes, electrolyte drinks and such like.
- 10:55Jen Oliver: And I guess if we know we sweat a lot, we could be
- 10:57proactive too and use some pre-cooling techniques to help ourselves.
- 11:02Chris Smith: Yeah, definitely.
- 11:03So cold towels, cooling vests, cold showers, they all help.
- 11:08Um, but, and they genuinely do help, like high sweaters.
- 11:11Jen Oliver: Mm-hmm.
- 11:12Matt Edmundson: So even simple things can help us well, right.
- 11:14So like run cold water over your wrist for, I don't know, 30 seconds.
- 11:18The key areas I, you know, to run cold water over your forehead, palms, feet.
- 11:23They're used for temperature regulation, aren't they?
- 11:26Jen Oliver: Yeah.
- 11:26And does when you exercise matter?
- 11:29Chris Smith: Yeah.
- 11:29So interestingly, when it comes to high sweaters, if they exercise in
- 11:33the cooler parts of the day, that can cut their sweat losses by 30 to 40%.
- 11:38Matt Edmundson: Yeah.
- 11:38Early morning and evening workouts actually make a huge difference.
- 11:41I found for me, working out in the morning is a big deal, right?
- 11:44The best time to work out.
- 11:45Um, plus obviously wearing, you know, the right gear, moisture, wicking fabrics.
- 11:50Um, they help for high sweaters, cooling, headbands, neck wraps.
- 11:53All these things can be real game changers.
- 11:57Jen Oliver: And how does sweat differences connect to other
- 12:00health, BA health aspects?
- 12:01'cause we know, we think.
- 12:03Everything connects.
- 12:04Matt Edmundson: Everything connects.
- 12:05You're right, I've read that your pattern, um, your sweat patterns
- 12:08actually affect sleep quality.
- 12:10So people who don't cool efficiently have disrupted sleep, uh, for a long,
- 12:15prolonged elevated temperatures.
- 12:16It impacts performance and recovery time between workouts.
- 12:20Chris Smith: That's it.
- 12:21It's all linked, and it comes down to mood and energy levels too.
- 12:24So excess fluid loss affects blood volume, impacted circulation.
- 12:28So even mild dehydration can cause a. Like decreasing cognitive function.
- 12:34So it all comes down to your, your own personal health
- 12:37and like diet and exercise.
- 12:38There is no universal hydration strategy.
- 12:40It's what's right for you.
- 12:42Matt Edmundson: So what we are saying is understanding your sweat response
- 12:46is foundational for effective routines.
- 12:49Heat tolerance, even travel strategies.
- 12:51You know, like if you are a high sweater, planning a tropical holiday,
- 12:55uh, you need a completely different preparation, uh, perhaps than
- 12:59someone who barely sweats at all.
- 13:01Okay.
- 13:02Jen Oliver: And sweating patterns.
- 13:03Do they change as we get older?
- 13:05Chris Smith: Yeah, they do.
- 13:06So as we age, uh, sweat responses change.
- 13:08So that affects our exercise capacity, of course.
- 13:12So keeping on top of these changes, it can help like maintaining your active
- 13:16lifestyle more effectively and safely.
- 13:18Matt Edmundson: And For parents recognizing kids might have completely
- 13:20different sweat patterns as well.
- 13:22Right.
- 13:22Is really important.
- 13:23Even when the same family could prevent heat related problems
- 13:27during sports or summer activities.
- 13:30Chris Smith: Absolutely.
- 13:30So that's why some people sweat buckets and some people stay mysteriously dry.
- 13:37It's a combination of genetics, your sweat gland architecture, and how
- 13:40your body reacts to exercise and conditions in the individual way.
- 13:45Matt Edmundson: And when you see that park, one person sort of barely
- 13:49misted whilst you are wrestling a garden sprinkler, um, you'll know
- 13:54it's not about effort or fitness.
- 13:56It's probably about biology.
- 13:58Jen Oliver: So that's why some exercise for hours with minimal perspiration,
- 14:03while others need industrial strength towels after warmups.
- 14:07Okay.
- 14:08That's it for this week.
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- 14:14behind everyday questions each week.
- 14:16And tell us in the comments what questions you'd like us to explore.
- 14:20Thanks so much for geeking out with us, but for now, that's it from me.
- 14:24Matt Edmundson: That's it from me,
- 14:25Chris Smith: and that's it from me.
- 14:27Jen Oliver: Bye.