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September 1, 2026 | The Jon Justice Show · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: Did you know that it is twenty one feet?
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_03: Twenty one feet is the is the the distance in which an individual who might be wielding a knife or is it is wielding a knife.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_03: Twenty-one feet is the danger zone.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like if they're in twenty-one feet of you, you are in trouble from that individual wielding that knife.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_03: I learned this this morning on another show.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's like a law enforcement deal.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like if they're within 21 feet and they got a knife, that's like that's like the distance that they can lunge to attack you where you would be in in danger.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_03: 21 feet.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_03: I bring this up because the pol uh police ended up killing a knife-wielding woman uh after uh the uh a Times Square stabbing spree yesterday.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_03: I saw this play out online, like the I was watching TV and I was working on the show, and then I started to get some some notifications.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I there was immediately video video of uh of what was taking taking place in this in this woman.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: And immediately the internet does what the uh what the internet does, and everybody has suddenly become experts on the use of force tactics when it comes to to law enforcement.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_03: But it really is a horrific video.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna kick off the show today uh talking about this.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_03: But again, it was the the argument that I was hearing on this other show was regarding the use of force of law enforcement.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_03: They ended up tasing her and then they ended up ultimately shooting the woman.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh she died.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: But she had already murdered somebody else.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: She stabbed two two different individuals.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_03: One was a 68-year-old, the other was a 32-year-old, the 32-year-old was killed.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_03: But this story is kind of bubbling out there.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_03: It broke late yesterday and it's gaining quite a bit of attention.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_03: And like I said, a lot of people are acting like they've become experts on the uh on the issue.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll kick things off.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'll dive into the details of what uh what transpired and share my thoughts uh today on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 2:37
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• 2:41
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• 2:42
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• 2:48
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• 2:53
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• 2:57
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• 3:05
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• 3:17
  SPEAKER_03: We got Devin producing the show uh once again uh this morning.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: We have David Gartenstein Ross.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_03: He'll be answering your AI-related questions.
• 3:25
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• 3:29
  SPEAKER_03: So if you have questions for David regarding artificial intelligence, uh you can now text those in.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: You can also, of course, email john.justice at american experiment.org.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but get those questions in.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_03: And um if we don't get to them this week, I try to hang on to the questions to carry them over till the following week.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_03: So uh depending on how many questions we end up getting for David, we're not always able to run through all of them relating to the latest advancements uh in artificial intelligence, including we actually have a local story that we'll be um that we'll be diving into with David, uh chat GPT for Minnesota districted teachers.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh St.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_03: Cloud says uh they're utilizing AI.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: This is up in St.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_03: Cloud, one district.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_03: They're utilizing AI, but they won't use AI to grade the assignments, which I thought was rather odd.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_03: I would have thought that AI would have been best used for grading.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: They're doing it for research.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_03: And so we'll ask a Viet about that.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_03: I could be completely um off base, uh, off base regarding that.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh controversy at the Minnesota State Fair, uh, attendance has dropped.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_03: I have some theories.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_03: Started off with some record numbers on Thursday, Friday, and then over the weekend it dipped.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: And again, I have theories as to why that is.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think there's a there's a both left and right issue or issues, I should say, as to why fewer people might be attending uh the Minnesota State Fair.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_03: I'm meaning it's slightly in in jest, but we will we will get into that.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we'll talk about the uh the drag show and the children watching the men dressed as women gallivanting around sexually at the Minnesota State Fair.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_03: Also, anti-Trump crop art ends up being removed at Minnesota State Fair after after the artist is doxxed.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, the artist wasn't doxed, their name is attached to the actual piece of art.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_03: So if you consider doxing, just simply Googling somebody's name to find out their background of which you could do with me, you could probably do with Devin, you could do with pretty much anybody now.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, fine.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_03: But that's not, in my opinion, traditionally what we mean by doxxed.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_04: And it came down because she voluntarily removed it.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll dive into that coming up uh later on uh later on in the show.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_03: The Minnesota Farm Bureau issues some endorsements.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: I have a uh comical audio clip to share with you of an endorsement that uh Peggy Flanagan received yesterday, not from the Minnesota Farm Bureau, by the way.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: This was a bit of a shock to um, you know, midterm election uh watchers.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh also, we have an update on the windows being smashed in uh downtown Minneapolis as I move through the stack and major use uh major news yesterday afternoon.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_03: I have a lot of audio to share regarding this of uh Trump uh his administration's war on illegal immigrant truckers and also DHS pushing voter fraud probe in nine states before November's midterm.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_03: So we got a lot of ground to cover uh on the show this morning, and I hope that you will stay with us every single step of the way.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to watch the show and you're on X, you can do that on my feed at JohnJustice at J-O-N.
• 6:41
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• 6:45
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• 6:56
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• 7:00
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• 7:08
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• 7:11
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• 7:12
  SPEAKER_03: I was doing prep yesterday and there were some listeners that were that were uh listening to the podcast of Monday show, heard the new number, 651-964-0294, and we're dropping some comments, and I could actually text them back on the fly like we're friends.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_03: It was kind of fun.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_03: I may regret this down the line.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_03: I may have to turn the notifications off eventually.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_03: However, it was kind of fun yesterday where I could hear from people on the fly.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: So, all right, let's go here.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_03: Police fatally shot a woman they described as emotionally disturbed after she allegedly stabbed two people, killing one during a knife attack in Times Square on Monday.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_03: If you haven't seen the footage, if you want to head over to my feed uh on uh X at John Justice, J-O-N at John Justice, uh, I've uh reposted with some comments uh a couple of different angles on the video.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, it's sad.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's incredibly sad.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_03: The uh attack unfolded around 4 30 p.m.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this was at West 42nd Street and 7th Avenue.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm unfamiliar with that.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's you know, in Times Square.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm assuming that's a central area in Times Square, but I'm unfamiliar with the area, having not spent a ton of time there.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: Authorities say the woman who's been identified as a 49-year-old Pamela Cisneros.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: She stabbed a man and a woman before police confronted her nearby.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_03: Now she's from Queens.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: She's had previous outbursts related to her mental state.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: This is according to the NYPD commissioner Jessica Tisch, a female victim of Pamela later died at the hospital, while the male victim was hospitalized in critical condition, according to police sources.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_03: The identities of the victims have not been released.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, from what I've been able to uncover, the woman that was that was murdered, um, and again, this is this is what I've seen.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_03: I hadn't seen this officially, but I've seen a number of comments regarding this on uh online.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that the woman that she stabbed, allegedly she stabbed her in the in the head.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_03: She was 32 years old, and the other victim uh that she wounded that's recovering in the uh hospital uh was 68 uh years old.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_03: Both victims transported again.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: The woman was pronounced dead.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_03: Sources told ABC News that uh Cisneros appeared to be emotionally disturbed and was armed with two kitchen knives.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: You can see this in the video.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_03: She refused repeated commands to drop the weapons when the officers confronted her uh near an NYPD substation.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_03: During the encounter, she told officers, and you can hear it in the video, I'm not dropping anything.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: I would rather kill both of you.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: And then she repeated, I will kill you.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: Again, you watch the video, you can see her doing this.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: She's got both knives in her hand.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, for those that haven't been, they can't watch the video.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: This is an overweight woman.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_03: She had that dark curly hair, kind of up and and and back, uh, thinking like at a ponytail, essentially.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: And she's holding two knives in her hands.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: So again, she'd already stabbed two other individuals, murdering one of them, allegedly stabbing one of them in the head before she comes in contact with law enforcement.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: Law enforcement is on the sidewalk, circling around her at a distance.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_03: And this goes back to my 21 feet commentary a moment ago.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: And this is what I heard from an individual who, again, serving in law enforcement, had said that's the that's the danger zone, is 21 feet.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: And she's within that danger zone.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: So you've got law enforcement standing around her, but on top of that, you've got bystanders everywhere filming.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they are like almost intermixed with the circle of law enforcement around them.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_03: She's got both of her knives in their hands, in her hands.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: She's making these comments of, I'm not dropping anything as law enforcement's communicating with her.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'd rather kill both of you.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: And you can see her like breathing in and out like she's get like she's rearing up.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_03: And then at one point, she starts like wielding the knives.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_03: She goes full general grievous from Star Wars episode three with the lightsabers with the knives and starts advancing towards law enforcement.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: It was in this moment that you can hear the shots from the tasers, which don't stop her.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: She doesn't go down.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it's because she's a heavy set woman.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what the deal was, but she continues to advance on the officers.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: At one point, she gets within, oh gosh, five feet, six feet, seven feet of one of the law enforcement officers as she's heading for him, and the officer draws his gun and he shoots her.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's exactly how they should have handled the situation.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: I only say it with that emphasis because online there's a whole bunch of people acting like they're a bunch of experts and other individuals looking at this circumstance saying, this is what, you know, so use the force again.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_03: Law enforcement's out of control.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_03: This is what's happening in Trump's America.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_03: A photo captured by the New York Post and near the scene showed an officer holding a kitchen knife recovered from the area.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_03: In the videos posted to social media, the woman identified as Cisneros was wearing jeans, a pink shirt, and a brown bag over her shoulder.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: She appeared to be gripping a large knife in each hand.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_03: Police have not provided information on her motive, but they do not believe the act was uh terrorism.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I agree with that.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: Based off of what we know, it sounds like this was just a mentally disturbed individual.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: The incident comes just weeks after another stabbing near Times Square, in which a man was stabbed in the head during an argument inside of a subway uh station.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I'd be curious to get your thoughts on this if you've watched the video.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um and if listen, if you think that this was improper um, you know, use of force by law enforcement, I wouldn't love to hear your argument.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't believe that it was based off of what I've seen, uh, but I would like to hear from somebody who's watched the video and says, no, law enforcement, in my opinion, should have done something different.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm open to hearing other perspectives.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um and let me add one element to this.
• 13:13
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• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: 651-964-0294, and you can email John.justice at American Experiment.org.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the other thing I want to add to this, though, is that the only thing that's really causing controversy, in my opinion, over this situation is the fact that the cops weren't there during the initial attacks that this woman did on the man, the man and the woman, the the man who's recovering in the hospital and the woman who subsequently died.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: What I mean by that is let's say law enforcement, I'm not sliding law enforcement.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is let's say that law enforcement was standing within the proximity of when this woman went and attacked the alleged 32-year-old woman, stabbing her in the head and murdering her.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: If cops had opened fire in that moment, I kind of don't think that people would be questioning it.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: She's in the process of murdering somebody.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: So that had just happened.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: She just walked away from the scene of stabbing two other individuals when law enforcement comes in contact with her.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: And law enforcement is already aware that she's been on a stabbing spree.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: This is not a woman who's standing there wielding knives and not having not done anything else.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: She has already committed herself to an act of violence and the fact that she, according to probably what law enforcement were told at the time, you know, stabbing and injuring two other individuals, they may not even have been aware that one of the individuals had been, had been murdered.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm certainly going to be keeping an eye on the story.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: I'm curious to get your thoughts uh on it as well, because it has the potential to be one of these stories that ends up exploding and becoming a nationwide issue.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_03: I hope that's not the case.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: I hope that cooler heads prevail on this, but I've just I've seen this happen too many times where those, especially on the left, those who want to defund the police, that current wing of the Democrat Party, known as the Democrat Socialists, that want to defund law enforcement, they'll look at a story like this and an event like this and try to take advantage of it.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: Have a text that uh came in and they say, I saw the video, and the officers acted correctly.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_03: The woman was waving her knives and coming towards the officers, and they had to stop her.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, again, that's my general assessment as uh as well.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: But I'd love to hear more of uh your thoughts again.
• 15:48
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• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I have another story relating to crime I'll share with you coming up.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_03: A repeat offender charged in multiple incidents was arrested in Glendale, California.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's what this individual was doing that got him charged, that piqued my interest.
• 16:13
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• 16:22
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• 16:24
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• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: Also, Trump vowing to hit back hard after the first exchange of fire with Iran in weeks, saying yesterday that he believes Iran officially is a failed nation.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: I want to give you my further thoughts on what's been going on with the war in Iran, all ahead of my conversation and getting your questions uh answered from David Gartenstein Ross regarding artificial intelligence uh this morning.
• 16:48
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• 17:01
  SPEAKER_03: We'll get to uh some of your thoughts on this knife-wielding woman taken out by law enforcement in New York City next, here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
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• 18:53
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• 18:57
  SPEAKER_34: We have not slowed down.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_34: There is no sense in which the fraud has been stopped in Minnesota.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_34: In Minnesota, we also have group homes that are licensed as assisted living facilities.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_34: And we have something along the order of 2,500 of these licensed across the state, but about 20% of them, around 300, 400 of them, have just been started in the last year.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_34: I'm not sure if there's a real underlying driver in the demographics or the demand for these facilities, but it's odd that we have these assisted living facilities linked to Medicaid fraud.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_34: At the same time, the Minnesota Department of Health is approving more than one a day.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_34: More than one new facility gets approved every single day, 365 days a year.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_34: And I don't think anybody is really giving any thought to, hey, maybe some of this is not on the up and up.
• 19:49
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• 19:56
  SPEAKER_43: And one of the intriguing people here, of course, is Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_43: Um uh and I got two questions about her.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_43: Number one, do you take her seriously as a presidential candidate?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_43: And number two, this this comment that she made the other day about how woke 1.0 was crazy, right?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_43: But now I guess we have woke 2.0, which seems to me to be even crazier.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_43: But what do you make of that as a as an effort to uh dodge the past?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_49: Well, first of all, you just don't get to do that.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_49: I'm sorry, you can't laugh it off all the horrible things that were done in the in the first woke period and just say, Oh, we were all kind of crazy.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_49: You you don't get to do that.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_49: You you are held accountable uh for the things that you said.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_23: Think about it.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_23: A famous politician once said, You're entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_23: But in a world full of AI and fake news, where can Minnesotans find the facts?
• 20:54
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• 21:05
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• 21:08
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• 21:16
  SPEAKER_25: Since we have no personal responsibility in our country anymore, the general public thinks that law enforcement has some magic wand that they can wield that'll make people get under control.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_25: There is no such thing.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_25: And deadly force is the last thing that law enforcement wants to use.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: Let me pause this really quick.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about the police end up killing a knife wielding woman after this Times Square stabbing spree.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, she had already stabbed a woman, I believe that she was 32 years old, wounded a 68 year old.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: That woman, again, was was murdered.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: She ended up dying in the uh in the in the hospital.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: And so there's controversy surrounding.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: This is because there's video that's available now where you can see clearly what had transpired.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: And individuals are using this to say that this was excessive use of force by law enforcement.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: But to the to the blast from the friend of the show, no, he's right.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: And this is a perspective that I don't think a lot of people think about.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: They don't think about the mindset of the law enforcement officer.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: Now, this is not a justification for bad behavior by law enforcement, it is just to say that the humanity of law enforcement gets lost in the middle of controversies like that.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: And that's a really good point to make that law enforcement, generally speaking, apart from individuals that probably shouldn't be serving in law enforcement if they have this mentality, but the majority of law enforcement officers understand, protect, and serve.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: They're not there to go and kill people.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_03: They'd rather not get into altercations like that.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: It was always the mentality that I had growing up when it came to being pulled over by law enforcement was, you know, I want to make sure that that officer, when they approach my window, is as calm as possible.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to get all my information out immediately.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to put my hands on the steering wheel.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to let them know every step of what I'm doing in the car while they ask for the various identifications from me so they can ride up the ticket because I want them happy.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: One, because maybe they'll give me a lesser charge.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: But two, you don't want to put them in a situation where suddenly they're more upset, you know, or more bothered if they were upset at all.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: So you just want to kind of defuse the situation.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: And typically, when you get pulled over, just as an example, you know that you screwed up.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: So to fight a law enforcement after that, I just don't understand.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh anyway, let's get back to the story of the Times Square knife wielding uh woman and uh the friend of the show's comments.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_25: Because this will affect them for the rest of their life.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_25: The general public has to get a clue again.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_25: They just don't have magic words to let people comply with what they need to do.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_25: There's no magic wand.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_25: Sometimes you have to get that force in order to save lives.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for the comments on the uh blaster line, 651-964-0294.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go here.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_18: This was described as not an act of terrorism.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_18: And my thought goes to why do we need so many adjectives compared to what we used to?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_18: I'm not sure I care whether they're politically motivated or not.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_18: I'd rather just end the threat quickly.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_18: Um that's where I'm at at the moment.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_18: I'll think about it more, but I'm curious what you think about that.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_18: I think we're putting too much emphasis on.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so here's my you know, here's my my thought on that.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: My my thought on that is that I don't really get too hung up on the fact that they go to this wasn't an act of terrorism because in a post-9-11 world, especially in New York City, especially in Times Square, where there have been other incidents of potential terrorism and terrorism.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, before you know 9-11 and after 9-11, that you know, if you ever have a circumstance of somebody randomly going and hurting another individual, especially out in the open like that, I mean people's minds immediately go to terrorism.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: So for me personally, I it doesn't bother me that they specifically go and say, hey, they do not believe this was an act of terrorism.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's more just a byproduct of the world that we live in right now and the post-9-11 world that we that we live in.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: Let me put it another way.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: If you don't include that in terms of the motive, people are gonna make their own assumptions.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: Because people are immediately going to assume.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: If you watch the video, you would think, okay, this is probably not a terrorist just based off of the profiling of the woman, which actually speaks to the positivity of profiling on occasion.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get to uh some more of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's 651-964-0294.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_32: Good morning, John Rich here.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_32: So it's very disheartening to hear that people are going after the cops for this justified shooting.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_32: And I recall Ashley Babbitt on the January 6th, where that woman had no weapons or nothing, and it was a justified shoot without any of the le legacy media questioning it.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_32: But they question this.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_32: This is just ludicrous.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: And as I mentioned before, I will be I I'm I'm curious to see if this story ends up going viral uh and becoming a a larger, a larger issue.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_03: It it remains to be seen.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: I I hope that cooler heads prevail.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: The video makes it pretty clear that law enforcement acted within authority.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: I'd like to hope that the majority of the comments pushing back on law enforcement were based off of the initial footage that was shot by those um in the uh in the area.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because initially the camera shots were a bit far away and they were kind of from behind, so you couldn't really judge the distance.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Now you have uh basically camera footage from the angle and proximity of where the law enforcement officers are are standing.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: It makes it pretty clear.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_08: Hey John, I can't help it, but that knife wielding woman incident in Times Square.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_08: I'm just waiting for the um Indiana Jones memes where he looks at his knife swinging assailant and just shoots him.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_08: That's what that reminded me of.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: I hope that's uh I hope that's not the uh the case.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: But thank you for the uh thank you for the comment.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go here to the blast.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_17: On the subject of mentally ill people committing crimes and getting killed.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_17: Um there were major changes made to laws regarding involuntary commitments to mental institutions.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, interesting.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um they left a further comment um saying that there were m changes to involuntary commitment laws across the United States.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um there's been other incidents of potential terrorism uh taking place.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I think they're probably speaking to the previous uh comment uh regarding uh the guy that was questioning the use of adjectives in this and saying that it wasn't terrorism.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: Western society has an illness, an epidemic of having a let me get the let me get the entirety of their comment.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_03: They called twice.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_31: Western society has an illness.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_31: A lot of it's through drug use, whether it's three drugs or pharmaceuticals over pharmaceuticals.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_31: Maybe there's people out there that believe it's okay to if you're having some kind of mental health crisis, but yet they also have this complete disconnect between is it actual mental health or is their brain being transformed and turned into psychosis based on whatever chemicals you're putting in their bodies, and we're just completely ignoring that.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_31: So it's okay for you to do a mass murder, it's okay for you to stab people in public, it's okay for you to have a mental health crisis, it's okay for you to kill your children, and we're safeguarding that.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_31: It's this complete perversion of reality and social norms and morality.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, one the takeaway from that, from those comments, and we'll revisit this after the conversation with David uh Gartenstein Ross, this story will go viral dependent on what the woman's background is.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_03: So law enforcement has already um said that the woman was dealing with mental health issues.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_03: So, based on the video, in my opinion, it looks like it was a it was a a clean shoot, not excessive use of force.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: But like I mentioned, you do see individuals out there trying to capitalize on this saying that um you know this was excessive use of force.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: So what's gonna determine whether or not this story ends up going viral is probably going to be whatever the background of this woman is in New York City.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: So once we find out what her what she was actually dealing with, I think then we'll we'll know whether or not this story is going to continue to spread, if it was going to become more controversial in terms of individuals' opinions over what she did and how law enforcement acted or not.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll certainly keep an eye on it and we'll get back to some of your uh many thoughts that have already rolled into the blaster line this morning at 651-964-0294.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: And with that, you can leave your comments and questions now for our next guest, David Gartenstein Ross.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: He is the CEO of uh Expert Uh Theory, our AI analyst and uh expert.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh previously was our terrorism expert, and he has uh shifted, uh shifted his background, now focus on artificial intelligence, and we invite him on the show uh every week to discuss such matters, and we're doing that once again today.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_03: Good morning, David.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: Great, great to uh great to see you this morning, and thank you so much for coming on the show.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_48: Good morning, John.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_48: It's great to see you as well.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go here.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I had a question that rolled right in to the uh blaster line via text, and they said um in the uh in the question, they said, can you make money?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna talk about this coming up.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Can you make money selling a small data center in a spare bedroom?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, would that even be would that even be possible?
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: Could you do let's let's let's expand it though.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: Let's kind of let's grow it.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: Could you create a mini data center like at your own home?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think that's something that we'll be capable of in the future?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_48: That's a really good question.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_48: Um like I I feel like what I'd like to do is actually research it and come up with um a good answer.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_48: Um so let me kind of not answer the question, but answer something that's related to this.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_48: So as as you know, John, I live in North Carolina, and um, you know, my father in part we live here because my wife grew up in eastern North Carolina, used to go hunting with my father-in-law all the time.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_48: Uh there's farmland uh out by Elizabeth City that he uh had permission to hunt in.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_48: And um, you know, about 10 years ago, uh these enormous wind turbines just uh kind of popped up on some of the farmland we hunted it, it uh hunted on, uh wind turbines, windmills.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_48: And we didn't know who had built them or who was contracting them, but we did know that there was a tech company that, you know, probably one of the big four um tech companies that had built them and was putting the energy into a grid, probably in anticipation for some of the boom that we're seeing right now.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_48: Um, I have to think that the answer to putting a data center in your own house is it would be really hard, and good luck making money on that because there's so many things that go into a data center.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_48: But the the point about those farms is look, this was tech companies looking at an unconventional way and place where they could generate energy for projects that were far, like hundreds or thousands, probably not thousands, but at least hundreds of miles away from the place where the wind turbines and windmills were being set up.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_48: So, like again, I feel like there's actually a good answer lurking there if I were to look into this a little bit.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_48: But the takeaway point would be that tech companies are definitely looking at this in a creative way, where they're looking at all the places where you can get space, et cetera.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_48: The final thing I'd say is that when you look at kind of the US as a whole or the world as a whole, um, someone's bedroom is the worst place to set up a data center, right?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_48: Like even if you have a yard, like you'd much better putting your tiny data center in your yard rather than putting it in like a spare bedroom in your house, because inside space is just kind of limited, right?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_48: There's there's a lot of space that we're not actually using, and which would be much better for a data center than your guest bedroom.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know if when it comes to the technology surrounding artificial intelligence, will it be will we will we be able to kind of keeping with the theme to scale it down?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like when you look at it, you know, you go back and watch, um, like I've been wiping out on this documentary on AD sci-fi films and war games popped up and it had Whopper there and the computers and you know, they're they're huge and massive, and now we've got them on our phones.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um, do you think AI can scale down?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think data centers could be scaled down at some point in time?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: Will technology allow us to do that?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: Or are we are we already kind of at the peak of doing such things?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_48: I am certain that it can scale down, right?
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_48: Um this is this is where technology develops.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_48: Um Moore's Law is all about technology scaling down.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_48: And we can see um even in our use of the internet, how technology scales down.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_48: Uh back in the late 1990s, there was actually a boom in um, you know, build it in building um uh basically energy generation, because the fear at the time was that use of the internet was going to exceed our power grid, which didn't happen at the time.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_48: With AI, it's now happening, right?
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_48: We actually have problems in terms of data storage, power, and the like.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_48: These are all major issues.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_48: And part of that is that we we built a technology that is so um intensive when it thinks, uh, right.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_48: Like if you look at just the human body, that the brain takes up a disproportionate amount of energy.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_48: And so to for an artificial intelligence to think well takes up a lot of energy.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_48: But the amount of energy that's taken up over time declines, and the amount of um space that it takes to store something declines over time.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_48: Um as you're saying, um, you know, if you go back to not just the movies and how these were depicted, um, you know, personal computers have become much smaller.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_48: Um the amount, like if you look at a floppy disk in like the early 1980s versus storage today, there's no comparison.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_48: You can store much, much, much more data in an infinite in an infinitesimally smaller space.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_48: Um both in terms of space and also in terms of energy, there's going to be greater efficiency over time.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_48: And I want to make one final point, which is that um an AI search today, like um an AI inquiry on average, uh, takes about as much energy as a Google search did in 2008.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_48: Um Yeah, and so like Google searches now take much less energy than they did about 20 years ago, 2008 being 18 years ago.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_48: Um, and AI searches in 10 years will probably will take significantly less energy than they do today.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: The uh the amount of information and and I question and maybe maybe I'll I'll put this in a in a question because I kind of question the accuracy, but the amount of information that you can now receive via Google versus just a few years ago, uh it's uh the the change is dramatic as an understatement um how how much detail you now receive and how much deeper the AI allows you to go.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: Do you trust do you trust do you trust those algorithms?
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_03: Do you trust and we're gonna talk a little bit about that with some local school districts and I have similar questions, but do you trust those answers that Google is now giving you via the AI move modes and the other, you know, the other search engines as well?
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_48: Um so uh some AI I trust and some AI I don't, and there there are ways to figure this out.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_48: Um so um I actually so I use ChatGPT Pro and I trust it.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_48: Um it gives me accurate information, it gets a few things wrong, but um, so I pay$100 a month for my subscription, and um you know basically the information it gives me is either accurate or highly accurate.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_48: Once in a while it's inaccurate, but then I can go back and forth.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_48: Um Google, the AI there lies constantly.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_48: Um and here's a way that anyone can tell.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_48: Uh let's talk about John, like a tell me a cultural artifact that you like.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_48: That um, you know, where there's a plot.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_48: Uh it could be a music video, it could be um, you know, a movie where the plot point is not famous.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_48: In other words, where it can't just kind of uh search for it and find it out.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_03: Where it's not famous?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: The plot point isn't famous.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even know the top of my head I could come I could come up with with with one.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_48: No, I mean, so for example, um you like 1980s era music videos.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_48: Sure.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_48: Right?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_48: There like think of a music video with a plot line.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_48: Can you think of one with a plot line?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um oh, Beastie Boys uh fight for your right to party.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: And the plot line is the guys in the video, they're trying to party and get away with partying uh in the absence of their of their parents.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: Does that work?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_48: Well, so so there are gonna be different things that happen there.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_48: Ask Google about specifics that happen in the video.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_48: Watch the video so that you know kind of scene by scene what's going on.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_48: Um and and there's characters in that, right?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_48: I think that there's a mother there who like the um you ask your mom, please, but she still says no.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_48: And so I think that if she goes, character, ask about her and ask her to physic ask Google to physically describe her.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_48: It will get it completely wrong, it will make it up, it will hallucinate it.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_48: Um ChatGPT on pro won't do that.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_48: But like, this is actually a good way to figure out if an AI is lying to you.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_48: Ask it something which isn't easily Googleable because people like there's nobody who's written written up like the physical descriptions of the characters the beastie boys fight for your right to party.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_48: Ask Google about it and it will lie to you.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_48: Like it absolutely will.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_48: Um, other AIs will not.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_48: Um, and like that that's actually a really good indication of um whether it's reliable or not.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_48: Um, asking it about something where you know it well and seeing if it gets details wrong.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go to the uh blaster line.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: Again, you can text and leave a voice message at uh 651-964-0294.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_28: I just was curious for David, you know, you say you trust the answer, but I keep getting these hallucinations because the AI seems to not want to disappoint me.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_28: I hate to anthropomorphize it, but it gives me answers, and it's very certain about the answers, and the answers look very correct, but then they turn out to be made up.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and I don't think, and David, just so we're clear, you're not trusting all of it.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, you went the opposite direction in the first part of our conversation.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_48: No, it it's it's a very specific model that I trust, right?
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_48: Which is ChatGPT Pro, and the intelligence setting is set either on extra high or on pro within that, because you have an intelligence setting within the model.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_48: I don't trust ChatGPT um or any AI on Medium, right?
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_48: Like, so one of the reasons Google is so unreliable is because so Google uses Gemini, and the Gemini, so I believe it's the Gemini AI that answers it.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_48: It doesn't kind of attribute it to Gemini AI, um, but uh like you I I'm gonna assume that that's what it's using.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_48: Um and uh when you get on to when you get on to it, um, it's at one of the lower intelligence settings, which is why I think there's so many hallucinations.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_48: So I would pay a lot of attention to the model that you're using.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_48: There are some models I trust a lot.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_48: Uh, there are a lot of models I do not trust at all, and I think are very unreliable.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_48: And so the model and also the intelligence setting of the model is gonna make a lot of difference.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_48: And so that's where where my degree of trust comes into play.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_48: And you know, I would find, I'd also add that in terms of the problem that Calister describes, there is sarcophancy.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_48: Um, like you're uh some AIs um are basically uh going to kiss up to you.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_48: Um at the higher intelligence settings, that that problem actually is resolved.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_48: They they they do not do so.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_48: At lower intelligence settings, they do.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: You and I do You and I David probably don't have an answer to this, but I want to add a layer to this conver to this conversation, talking with the CEO of Expert Theory and our AI analyst and expert David Gartenstein Ross.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_03: And again, uh the uh blaster line to call or text in your question, and we have a few that have rolled in.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh 651-964-0294.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_03: So a number of years ago, um, I went through a really, really tough spot uh health-wise.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_03: I had to go through that second open heart surgery.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know, Drew had passed away.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_03: I had a colonoscopy in the whole nine yards.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, there was a moment during that period of time where I was unfortunately going down the rabbit hole too often of Googling symptoms online.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: This is prior to AI.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, going that, you know, with a hypochondriac behavior.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: And it gives you, you know, and they always say, and it's accurate, you know, don't ever, you know, trust what you're reading online, especially regarding a health diagnosis.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: I will say, though, that in the few instances where I've done that over the course of, say, the past year, as we have mentioned before, the answers from AI are a lot more detailed and they appear to be more accurate.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like the algorithm before was always sending you to the doctor recommended, don't take this at face value, go see a doctor.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: Wherein it seems like the AI is a lot smarter and is actually providing some relevant information.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Information for individuals when they're Googling symptoms.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think that's the case, or should it still just completely not be trusted?
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: Not that you said that, by the way.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_48: So they they feel um confident enough that they're not going to like get someone killed and then get sued to actually roll this out.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_48: I think that if there's one message, let me make this super clear.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_48: So much trust is based on the model that you're using.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_48: Right?
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_48: So like I was talking to a friend of mine, uh, my daughter does competitive cheer.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_48: Um and I was talking to another cheer dad yesterday.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_48: He's talking about like he's considering selling this business, and he was telling me what ChatGPG told him, and the advice seemed terrible, right?
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_48: So I was like, what model are you using?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_48: Right?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_48: Like what intelligence setting is it?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_48: And like he had no idea.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_48: And that's reasonable because normal people don't like pay that much attention to these things.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_48: Um so he he got out his phone and he showed me what his settings were, and I was telling him about the reliability.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_48: But like, I I know that so I love this segment with you, right?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_48: And I love the fact that um people find it useful and um if done right, it can make their lives better.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_48: My one big piece of advice to listeners, my big piece of advice is everything depends on the model that you're using.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_48: Like, really pay attention to that because if it's a low intelligence model, you'll have all these problems.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_48: A lot of problems are now being solved uh for some of the more intelligent models, but you're not gonna unlock those in the free versions.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_48: Um, and like there's a lot of value you can get out of the free versions.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_48: Like, I've found it valuable enough to start paying for more advanced models, but like the models that that you see are not all the same.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_48: Um, even within kind of a single model like Chat GPT, you have all these different kinds of intelligence settings, some of which have more problems, some of which don't.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_48: And it really depends on the intelligence setting that you're using and the model that you're using.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_03: Do we have like garbage models out there that people can tap into that you know aren't running really comprehensive AI, but they're offering it to the public as sort of free alternatives to the to the paid stuff?
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think we'll see a proliferation, you know, of that, sort of a sort of an emerging business of these of these uh these uh large language model creators that are just providing junk AI to people for free?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_48: Um maybe, but it's not a great model because all of the major companies have free versions, right?
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_48: There's a free Chat GPT, free Claude, um you can get Google or Meta's AI for free.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_48: So I just don't see that there's a great business model there.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_48: If you look at the business model of um all of the AI companies, it's that having users equals value.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_48: And like the the research is intense behind this.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_48: That like it, you know, basically it's a it's a variation of if you build it, they will come.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_48: That like if you attract the users, you'll be able to monetize.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_48: And that's why, like, even though um you know all the AI companies for the most part are losing money today, their valuations are sky high because they have the users and they have you know models that uh are clearly extraordinarily powerful, and all that gives them as well lots and lots of data.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: Talking with David Gartenstein Ross, our AI analyst and expert and the CEO of Expert Uh Theory, speaking of business models, we really need a sponsor for this segment because it's it's too good to not be sponsored.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we do have an individual who actually launched their own uh business that has a question for you, David.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_30: It's a great day, September 1st.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_30: I just launched my new business today.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_30: And getting into the whole AI conversation, one of the things I like to do is clad at CPT and Gemini against each other when it's information I needed to create methodology.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_30: Each one sounded good.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_30: But as you ran it through different ones of research, you always found something different.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_30: And that only made it stronger for me.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_03: So it's interesting.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_03: This kind of this kind of play this kind of plays into David what you were talking about before.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_03: He pit two AI, you know, uh generators against each other to try to reach a particular answer.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_03: And this kind of this speaks directly, at least it sounds like, to what you were talking about a moment ago.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_48: Yeah.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_48: Um no, I I I I agree with that.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_48: One thing I uh that I have to say um amuses me to no end uh as well is models um that uh that tra talk trash to each other.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_48: Right?
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_48: So uh one of the articles that you sent me is about you know op-ed writing um and like op-eds that are generated by AI.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_48: Um, you know, I'm I'm I'm working on an article for Homeland Security today based on a game that we ran last week.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_48: And at some point, Johnny and I should talk about that because um it was um I I ran a game last week with like all the top counterterrorism experts, and we ran one of our games um for a public audience.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_48: It was super interesting.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_48: At any rate, it was co-sponsored by Homeland Security Today, which is the leading publication that sphere, and uh the editor um you know asked me for an article about that and actually suggested that I use AI.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_48: And so like I did.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_48: And you know, I'm gonna rework it, right?
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_48: Like, I as you know, I believe in human AI collaboration.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_48: Uh, and I see no reason to like to disguise the fact that AI assisted me in putting this together.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_48: Uh so we initially had like the first draft run through Claude.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_48: Um, I'm now in the process of editing.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_48: I'm probably gonna finish it in the next hour after I get off this call with you.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_48: Um, and um I had chat edit it, and the very first thing chat said about the draft is is like, this is a this is a pretty good draft.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_48: And um quite frankly, way better than I would expect from Claude with a smiley face.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_48: I was like, you go chat GPT, talk trash towards Claude.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_48: But I think actually we'll see.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_48: Like that's something which I actually find extraordinarily charming is like the models talking trash about one another.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go back to how we started the conversation to data centers just briefly.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Trump and AI investors waging a campaign to save data centers.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: I'm working off an article here from Axios.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Trump said on Monday that if we kill the golden goose, we only have ourselves to blame.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Trump went on to write the only reason that communities throughout the United States should not what data set want data centers is if they want to end up being backwards and poor, you know, of course, in very Trumpian fashion, right?
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_03: If they want to be successful and rich with far lower taxes and jobs all over the place, let data reign, he added, uh, drawing a rare frustration and confusion according to Axios from MAGO followers.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_03: Before we go any further, so it's just what's your initial uh instinctive reaction to Trump's comments being pro-data center here?
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_48: Um so I think that Trump on the whole is on the right side of the issue-ish.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_48: Um, obviously not using the right language.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_48: And uh this is an area, like so Trump um benefits a lot from populist discontent.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_48: Um and this is an area where he's going against the populist wave.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_48: Like over time, we'll see this very differently.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_48: And you and I have already talked about this.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_48: And if you look at some of the more uh advanced um AI company messaging campaigns, is that there are communities that genuinely would benefit from this, right?
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_48: The polling um is relatively um clear.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_48: You know, 61% of Americans oppose building a new data center in their community, including 54% of Republicans.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_48: So Trump is against popular opinion.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_48: If you step backwards, though, popular opinion doesn't actually answer this at all.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_48: Because it's not a question of whether the average person doesn't want a data center in their community, it's whether the average person in a community where a data center might be built wants it in their community.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_48: There are some communities that would benefit, some communities that would not.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_48: I live in Raleigh, we don't need data centers here.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_48: Like most major urban areas, bad place for data centers.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_48: Um, you know, there's a number that were built up in the DC metropolitan area in Northern Virginia many years ago.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_48: But like some communities are great places for data centers, some communities not.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_48: Um, and so over time the question is just where they will end up populating.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_48: It's not whether the average person wants it there or not.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_48: There's plenty of communities that are quite right to not want a data center there.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_48: Well, I don't want to.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_48: Um, you know, a thing could have many angles.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and I I want to add something to this in the article, um, because we talked about this, I don't think it was last week, but it was a recent conversation that we had regarding data centers, and that was, you know, what exactly would they provide?
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_03: In the piece from Axios, prominent investor uh Gavin Baker laid out his own six-part case for data centers.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, those were amplified uh by the Nvidia CEO, but basically water, taxes, jobs, power, environment, and towns.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's a really, it's a really fascinating piece.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_03: And if people are interested in this, I would encourage you to go and check it out, especially uh this investor's six-part case for data centers.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I think what you mentioned is uh is obviously important if it's right for the for the area.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um before I add another comment, did you want to did you want to weigh in on this a bit before I could have another aspect to this, but I want to give you a chance to respond if you'd like.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_48: That over time, the local environmental impact of data centers uh will significantly decline.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_48: Um I think that there are reasons, like especially for the older data centers, there's a lot of issues, a lot of reasons you might not want them in your community.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_48: Um, with newer data centers, the the impact, the environmental impact um and the local impact that's negative is going to decline over time.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and I just want to add something.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know, having traveled um, you know, from here west and back uh over the course of my summer vacation on the road trip I did with Kyle, uh, there's a lot of land out there.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_03: However, uh you you need the infrastructure.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I was thinking of that in kind of one even on the drive, I remember having, I'm like, well, you can put data centers out here, but then I quickly went, well, you could, but you also need the infrastructure in place in those barren locations, um, you know, and the and the means to transport it.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_03: So there's a there's this sort of fine line that I think that we've been discussing, you have to ride between finding optimal locations for the data centers, but also what's most what's most beneficial for the region, because you would need that power infrastructure in place to build it in the middle of nowhere would tur take a tremendous amount of of effort.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_48: Right.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_48: You need power, you need water.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_48: Um, the other thing is you need people, right?
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_48: And so building it in the middle of nowhere, you would like there used to be, as you know, company towns, right?
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_48: Entire towns that would be built around you know a factory or another company project.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_48: Um, if you're building something in the middle of nowhere and you need maintenance staff and other people to man the data center, you need places for people to live unless they're like unless there's a community close enough by.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_48: But like there's a lot of different infrastructural things, and I think people is one of the biggest uh infrastructure uh barriers, uh at least, you know, until robots are able to do all that work.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_03: That was gonna be my my next comment.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_03: So talking with David Gartz and Steiner Os in the time that we have left, let's go to this local story.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I had a quick question for you on this.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_03: So St.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_03: Cloud Schools are the only district in Minnesota using ChatGPT EDU, uh, an educational AI platform.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_03: Now, before I continue, uh, do you have any initial uh you've talked very positively about chat GPT.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have any initial thoughts to share regarding Chat GPT EDU?
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: Have you spent any any time with this aspect of ChatGPT?
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_03: I have not.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_03: So the teachers will use the Chat GPT EDU for lesson planning and administrative tasks, but it will not be used for grading.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: The rollout is optional with 200 teachers and staff signing up for the training program.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_03: I guess the question I had, David, is I would have thought that chat GPT would have been good for grading.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um am I wrong in that in that assumption?
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_03: Does it depend on what's being graded, I would assume?
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_48: So the answer is yeah, it it would it would be good for grading, full stop, right?
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_48: Um I think that this gets to why we would trust people more.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_48: And then so there's a whole set of interesting polling, and let me just kind of like step back from this because it it it relates to education, it relates to politics as well.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_48: Um I'd be interested in a poll of um conservative voters um in Minneapolis, St.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_48: Paul asking who would you trust more to run the city?
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_48: The current city council or an AI at its smartest setting.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_03: I have an answer.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_48: Right.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_48: But and also, you know, for school districts, similarly, like um, you know, we're in an age of the politicization of everything.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_48: I actually think I think that America is so polarized that both sides of the divide, or the various sides of the divide, would trust an AI on the smartest setting more than they would trust the other side to educate their kids or to run their cities.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_48: There's a whole set of interesting things we can jump into.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_48: People like there's a lot of things where people tend to think that we only trust people and not AI.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_48: This this relates to the AI writing.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_48: And like let me be clear, when when we're talking AI generated, like for another story that we mentioned earlier, AI generated columns, it's you know, column, it's columns and newspapers that are over 80% AI generated.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_48: If something is over 80% AI generated, then the author's just being lazy, right?
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_48: They're not taking enough ownership for it, in my opinion.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_48: But like what on this issue, there's a lot of things that AI is good at.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_48: Um, grading, anyone who's graded papers understands that it is a chore.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_48: And by the time you're done grading papers, you are so lazy with it, on average, unless you're spacing out over several days, that your ability to grade well declines.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_48: That is not the case for an AI.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_48: Um, I would say that probably even for a relatively good teacher, if they're time constrained, an AI will on average do better grading, say, 30 plus papers than the teacher will, in my opinion.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_48: Um, and so there's a whole set of conversations we're not having right now.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_48: And a lot of those conversations involve the fact that humans get fatigued, AI doesn't, number one.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_48: And number two, humans are very, very opinionated these days.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_48: AI can be less opinionated.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_03: David Gartenstein Ross, our AI analyst and uh expert and the CEO of Expert Theory, as always.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for the time this morning.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_03: I look forward to talking with you once again next week.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_03: If anybody has any questions for David and did not get them answered uh today, drop me an email, john.justice at americanexperiment.org.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'm happy to forward those on to David.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_03: David, I'll leave you with this one last little anecdote this morning.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_03: So I mentioned this briefly earlier.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, there's a four-hour documentary.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's fantastic, and it's uh it's called In Search of Tomorrow.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_03: And it is uh nothing but interviews going through all of the classic uh 80s science fiction films.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's available for free on Tubi.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I've been watching this over the course of the past week in the middle of doing prep and whatnot.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the reason I bring it up is because there are commercial breaks, because Tubi is a free platform.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_03: These commercial breaks run and they're mostly for these online app games where you can, you know, gamble and win money and whatnot.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_03: So they almost all exclusively use AI generated uh actors in the ads, but it's hysterical because they're all real quick snippets and they don't bother fixing when the AI can't pronounce things correctly.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_03: So I end up, I I end up getting I end up watching all of the commercial segments because the AI is so bad and the pronunciation on the most basic of words is so off that it becomes incredibly entertaining.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_03: And I figured you'd get a kick out of that.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_48: I do indeed.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_48: John, great joining you.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_48: Hope you have a wonderful day.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_03: I will talk to you next week, my friend.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
• 1:01:39
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• 1:02:11
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  SPEAKER_03: We kicked off the show uh talking about this issue in New York City that I'm kind of waiting to see whether or not it goes viral.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_03: I want to play a comment that rolled in on this.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: But police did end up fatally shooting a woman they described as emotionally disturbed after she allegedly stabbed two people, killing one during a fatal knife attack attack in Times Square.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, there was a 32-year-old woman who died, who was stabbed by uh this 49-year-old Pamela Cisneros, and also a 68-year-old man, allegedly, who was stabbed, who is recovering from his wounds after she attacked those two individuals.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_03: Law enforcement essentially surrounded her at a distance.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's video footage from multiple angles where you can see this woman um holding a kitchen knife in both hands, identified as Cisneros, wearing jeans, a pink shirt, and a brown bag over her shoulder.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_03: She was standing there during the encounter with the officers saying, I'm not dropping anything, I'd rather kill both of you.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_03: She repeated, I will kill you.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_03: At one point, she starts twirling the knives in her hands, like she's General Grievous in Star Wars Episode III with the lightsabers.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_03: The officers tase her.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_03: She doesn't go down, she gets within a few feet of one law enforcement officer continuing to lunge forward.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_03: He pulls his um his firearm and uh shoots her on the spot.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_03: So this is already causing controversy, especially from those who want to say that this is excessive use of force.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't believe it was in any way, shape, or form.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_03: I was listening to another podcast earlier today.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_03: They were talking about essentially this 21-foot radius that is the distance, right, and the radius around an individual that if somebody's coming at you with a knife, if they're within 21 feet, you are in imminent danger if they're planning on attacking you.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_03: And that would certainly be the case in this circumstance.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_03: She was well within that range.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_03: And again, that's not anything official as far as I know.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_03: This is just what I heard from an individual involved in um law enforcement.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_03: So we've had comments that have been rolling in on this as people have been trying to use this as a means to push back and criticize law enforcement.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get back to some of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning at 651-964-0294.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_25: Depending on the cost of the officer involved shooting in New York, the left has become this anti-police, I'm the police, dispensable police type of mentality.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_25: And since we've had that assault on police officers, particularly in New York, have guys rocketed a lot of them with knives and other weapons.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_25: Police officers don't take an old to get killed or assaulted.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_25: They take enough to protect them from the public and they know in the back of their mind.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_25: But they could be assaulted or killed.
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  SPEAKER_25: So with the left hand Justify and get rid of the rhetoric.
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  SPEAKER_25: Tell me if these police officers are dismantled.
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  SPEAKER_25: Who's going to protect you?
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_25: Because when these people don't have the police to assault and kill who they're going to go after?
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_25: The socialists and the communists are going to move on to the next target.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_25: They're just not going to give up.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, what you described in your previous towards the end of your comments there, that's the end goal of what the communist socialists want.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_03: They want chaos because ultimately they want to control.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_03: They want individuals to be under their rule.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I've used this for years.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_03: This idea of if you're on the left, you can be as irrational and hypocritical as you want to be as long as it furthers the agenda.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I've also said for years that on the left, they will support your mediocre lifestyle as long as you basically pledge your allegiance to Democrats and continue to vote for them over and over and over again.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_03: Therein, by extension, is the end goal of what communists want.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_03: They want everybody under their authoritarian rule.
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  SPEAKER_03: You'll have access to food, you'll have access to a place to live, you'll have access to entertainment, but it's all going to be regulated.
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  SPEAKER_03: It will all be limited.
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  SPEAKER_03: You will have no ability for upward mobility whatsoever.
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  SPEAKER_03: The communists will support your mediocre lifestyle as they collectively take everything that you are accomplishing and end up giving you a life in exchange for it.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_03: Money will no longer be an element to you.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_03: It won't be a problem anymore.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_03: Because whatever you contribute, you will get back in return of the services worthy of whatever you're providing to the greater society.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_03: So, to your point of what do they want if these police officers aren't there?
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_03: First off, they also know that more than likely that's never going to happen.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's just a sticking point.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_03: But look at what's happened in Minneapolis.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_03: Look at what's happened with the defund the police movement.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_03: You have a perfect example of that.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_03: We haven't had enough law enforcement officers for years now, based off of the number of individuals in Minneapolis.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_03: They're actually in violation of the law right now because they don't have enough law enforcement officers.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_03: So what did they try to do?
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: They tried to bring in violence interrupters, gang members in fancy shirts that are going to go and stop violence.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: Well, what happened then?
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_03: It ended up becoming a grift.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_03: Taxpayer dollars were redistributed to the individuals.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't have to show any accomplishments whatsoever.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_03: And what's happened since then?
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_03: We've had an expansion of crime that has taken place in the city of Minneapolis since then.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: As a matter of fact, you know what?
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't even going to go there yet.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm getting ahead of myself.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_03: But since I am here, we'll go ahead and and and talk about it because this fits in perfectly.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_03: You may have this fluctuation in crime in Minneapolis.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_03: But the truth of the matter is the level of crime that Minneapolis is enduring, enduring, go going up and down, it's still greater than it was pre-COVID, pre-the death of George Floyd.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: And the ramifications of what this Minneapolis City Council has done and the DFL in the state continues and it's visible on the streets.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_03: So we talked last week about the fact that you had these cars that were vandalized, right?
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_03: Some like 87 vehicles.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_03: This has still continued into this week.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_03: And as a matter of fact, some arrests have been made.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_03: But guess what?
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_03: There's a new law that's been put in place that'll keep some of the juveniles who've been arrested attached to these car burglaries from being prosecuted at all.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_03: So let me get you up to speed on this.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_03: There's a couple of different clips I have from uh channel five on this.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the first one is after hundreds of car break-ins last week, on Monday morning yesterday, there were more vehicles that were damaged in Northeast uh Minneapolis.
• 1:10:19
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• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_03: But here is the coverage of the new vandalism taking place in Minneapolis, courtesy of uh KSTP.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_42: Here's the clap, 50 witness news.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_42: We're still following a string of car break-ins in Minneapolis.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_42: We learned last Thursday that there was over 200 car break-ins in under a week.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_42: And if you turn the camera around here in northeast Minneapolis, these car break-ins are not slowing down.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_42: These are all overnight.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_42: Three new break-ins.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_42: We learned from MPD that three juveniles, an 11-year-old boy, a 12-year-old boy, and a 16-year-old girl, were all detained last Tuesday in South Minneapolis.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_42: And while that may have happened, the problem does not appear to be going away.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_03: So that was the first clip.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: They did a follow-up later on in the day, which added further clarity as to what's going on.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_03: And we'll get your thoughts on this coming up on the Blaster line as well at 651-964-0294 here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_42: New state law having a major impact on Minneapolis' car break-in scene.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_42: I'm Harrison Cloud with Five Eye Witness News.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_42: I'll tell you what we just learned from Minneapolis police.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_42: So just after we saw 200 car break-ins in Minneapolis in over a week, Minneapolis police detained an 11-year-old boy, a 12-year-old boy, and a 16-year-old girl.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_42: They're now telling us that the 16-year-old girl will likely be referred to the county attorney's office for potential charges.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_42: However, they cannot do that for the 11-year-old boy and the 12-year-old boy.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_42: Why?
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_42: Because a new state law in Minnesota prevents it.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_42: The law prevents kids from being charged criminally when they're under 13.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_42: And this law just got put in place on August 1st.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_42: So, really, in the nick of time, these kids are being saved from potential charges.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_03: They're being saved from potential charges, all right, and they shouldn't be.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_03: That new state law prevents children from under 13 from being criminally prosecuted in Minnesota.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Any possible punishment instead is handed outside a courtroom through a different process.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_03: So attorney Michael Holland said absolutely it will prevent the prosecution of the two younger adults.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_03: The 16-year-old, my guess is, will be prosecuted depending on what kind of device they had.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_03: I saw, I think it was Crime Watch Minneapolis, might have been Alpha News, but I saw footage of these vandals breaking these car windows, and they're essentially they're using some sort of device.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's just mayhem.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_03: There's no there there is no, at least as far as I can tell, based on the video, it's just it's it's mayhem.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_03: There's no rhyme or reason for it.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_03: They're walking up to vehicles, placing their hand on the window, and whatever is that whatever device is in their hand is shattering the glass of the window of the of the car, and then they're just walking off to the next vehicle.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, I understand that children's brains aren't fully developed.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's something that the left doesn't seem to get only in particular circumstances, because this is a law.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if Republicans signed onto it.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_03: I I I don't agree with it.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_03: If they move forward with the other prosecutions or the way they can go and prosecute the children, then I guess.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_03: But this seems like a circumstance where you have the left potentially, and again, it could have been Republicans, but based off of the legislature, I'm assuming that this was done prior to last year.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_03: But based off of this, I mean, this would lean into that idea that children are too young, they don't know what their actions and the the the consequences of their actions, and therefore they need to be treated differently.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's just unfortunate because in cases like this, when you have children that are out there creating this kind of mayhem, I just can't help but think that one, it's obviously a parental issue that starts in the home, but two, are they going to learn anything from these lessons at all?
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_03: If they're not going to be held accountable for going and damaging private property?
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_03: All right, let's get back to some of your thoughts uh specifically about what had taken place in New York City, but also uh what we were talking about with this car vandalism and the lack of charges against those underage.
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  SPEAKER_11: A couple of observations.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_11: Isn't it ironic that socialists always decry police brutality right before they take power and truly initiate police brutality?
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_11: And isn't it funny that 13-year-olds can't be charged because they're too young.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_11: But damn, they can vote.
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they can't vote, but they would like them to go and uh and vote.
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  SPEAKER_03: Working through a couple of uh different stories this morning, uh, we will be getting into the latest out of the fair, and there has been uh a number of different uh controversies in the uh opening days of the Minnesota State Fair.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll continue to get your uh thoughts on these stories, the upcoming stories.
• 1:19:47
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• 1:19:55
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• 1:20:00
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• 1:20:03
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• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_03: So two different stories that we've been talking about.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um we got off the line last hour, had a great conversation talking artificial intelligence with David Gartnstein Ross, but there was a woman uh wielding two knives, ended up murdering a uh a woman, uh stabbing and wounding another gentleman in New York City before coming in contact with law enforcement.
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_03: Law enforcement told her to drop her weapons.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_03: She wouldn't do it.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_03: She kept saying that she was gonna kill the cops while standing in front of them.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_03: She began to approach the cops, wielding the knives.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_03: They tased her.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_03: She didn't go down.
• 1:20:36
  SPEAKER_03: She got within a few feet of one of the law enforcement officers, continuing to lunge forward, repeatedly ignoring uh their demands, in which point he, in my opinion, um properly uh went and pulled his firearm and ended up shooting the woman on the spot.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_03: An incredibly tragic story.
• 1:20:53
  SPEAKER_03: She seems to be dealing with some mental illness.
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_03: This is why you don't bring knives to a gunfight.
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_03: But this is already causing controversy online from those that want to say that this was excessive force used by uh law enforcement.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_03: We're also talking about the fact that more cars are being vandalized in uh Minneapolis in the wake of the 87 some odd vehicle windows that were uh smashed in last week.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_03: On Monday, the same thing happened.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_03: You have arrest of juveniles, but there's a new law saying that those uh 13 and under are not gonna be prosecuted.
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna be sent to a different uh different uh prosecutorial means uh as opposed to a typical prosecution of a juvenile who's going and can and conducting this type of crime.
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_03: And this is a law that just went into effect on August 1st, and now these kids are not gonna be fully held to the fullest extent of the of the law.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um we had a comment that rolled in, and they're absolutely right.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_03: Kids' brains aren't developed enough to take responsibility for obvious crimes, but they're developed enough to change their gender.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_03: Unbelievable.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_03: No, you're right.
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's the hypocrisy that we see constantly on the left.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get to a few more of your thoughts from the blaster line.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_10: Well, the parents uh financially responsible for the actions of the kids that are too young to prosecute criminally.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'd be in support of that.
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_03: Have the parents shoulder the responsibility of having to pay for the smashed in car windows.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_13: So this is what happens when you have communists and town, when you have the Democrats in the tower, you can crazy later walking around with the thing I'm gonna kill you, or I'm gonna kill you if you're not for weapons.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_13: And uh we can't get out of the bottom, take it down often so that we can hold 13-year-old accountable and under 13 as well.
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_13: They shouldn't have the same punishment as anybody else for certain crimes that they committed.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_03: Let's just have some consistency.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's all.
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_03: Let's have some intellectual consistency for those on the left.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_03: You think the children under the age of 18 that their brains are developed enough for them to go and make decisions regarding their gender, then they should also be able to face prosecution.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_03: You shouldn't have to have stipulations or laws in place when it comes to getting your ears pierced before a certain age, or going and getting a tan and a tanning booth, or going and getting a tattoo.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying that I agree with those things.
• 1:23:44
  SPEAKER_03: Don't misunderstand.
• 1:23:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm saying that if you're on the left and believe that a child is under the age of 18 can determine their own biology, then by all means they should be able to determine if they want to get a uh a tan, a tattoo, their ears pierced, and if they commit a crime, they should be willing to go and do the time.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, that is not the reality.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_03: Children's brains aren't developed fully under the age of 18.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's why we have driving laws in place, it's why we have drinking laws in place, it's why we have voting laws in place.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_03: I have a story uh later on about a oh she it let me get the headline right.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta go through my uh my stack here.
• 1:24:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but it is a teacher who essentially wants to be on a school board, and she fronts a um she fronts a band that uh my apologies for not finding the story uh in the stack uh beforehand.
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um but she ends up fronting a band and she Forest Lake school board candidate, Moonlights as a punk rocker to fight fascism, often wears a uh uh a trans uh fight fascism t-shirts, goes to No Kings rallies, fancies herself as a rock star, and believes that children under the age of 18 can make uh decisions about their own biology.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll give you that story a little bit uh later on uh later on today.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let's get back to uh a few more of your thoughts from the uh blaster line this morning.
• 1:25:18
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• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_09: Hey John, Barry and Andover.
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_09: First, I did try to find you at the pair last Saturday, but every time I peeked around, I didn't see you guys there.
• 1:25:28
  SPEAKER_09: So didn't know about that.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_09: But what do kids learn at 13?
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_09: They learn they can get away with it.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_09: And if they're kids of color, if we can say that, they learn that that's the reason they get away with it.
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_09: And yet they can pick their body parts.
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_09: Also, everybody start now making your plan to get people out to vote.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_09: Start calling them, start talking to them, start mentally getting them ready to get out to vote.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_24: It's a Mike, uh Rogers.
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_24: That tool um is something uh cops and first responders have for breaking windows.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_24: Nothing really special about it.
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_24: It's like a spring-loaded bolt, kind of like a firing pin, and you just talk it, you hold it up against the window, you pull, you push the button, and the spring-loaded bolt whacks the window, and the window shatters because side windows are designed to shatter into a billion pieces so that you don't get impaled on a piece of your window in an accident.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_03: What a sad state of affairs.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you're you and you're you're you're probably absolutely correct.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's all that it is.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_03: But what a sad state of affairs that this is how these children are deciding to go and entertain themselves.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not surprised at this at this behavior.
• 1:26:47
  SPEAKER_03: I remember as a kid, we used to pull like pranks all the time.
• 1:26:53
  SPEAKER_03: We would take a fishing line, attach it to like our mom's old purse or like a handbag.
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_03: We stuff some so we put some things in it, and we would go and we would basically fish citizens.
• 1:27:10
  SPEAKER_03: So we would take it with the fishing line and we would put it like out on the curb or on the street, and we lived on a kind of a kind of a busy street, just a residential street.
• 1:27:18
  SPEAKER_03: And then if somebody pulled over or walked by to grab it, we would yank it from them just to get their reaction.
• 1:27:24
  SPEAKER_03: It was a silly prank.
• 1:27:25
  SPEAKER_03: We get a kick out of it.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_03: We'd be on the roof and we'd be looking over.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_03: We oh, you're gonna get it to see, you know, and I and we shot video of it back on VHS tape.
• 1:27:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'll never forget one of them where it was an older couple that got out of a van to grab it.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_03: The woman goes to grab it, we start pulling it, she starts chasing it while the husband starts screaming at her, let it go.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_03: Don't go after it.
• 1:27:47
  SPEAKER_04: It's a trick.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_03: It was hysterical.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know what we weren't out doing?
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_03: We weren't out smashing car windows for crying out loud.
• 1:27:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's just sad.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_03: It is sad, and it's the lack of accountability that is causing.
• 1:28:09
  SPEAKER_19: I think you answered your own question.
• 1:28:11
  SPEAKER_19: They're gonna learn there are no consequences.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_19: By the way, do you see what time these kids were arrested?
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_19: It was two or three or four o'clock in the morning, something like that.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_19: Who has an 11-year-old child that they don't know where they're at at that hour?
• 1:28:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a really good point.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_03: I heard some commentary recently as well, um, talking about how so much of uh of everything that we're talking about here in this case, um, it all it all stems in the it all stems from the home.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a lack of a solid foundation in the home.
• 1:28:44
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of times it's a lack of a of a father figure.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's parents who are not raising their kids appropriately.
• 1:28:53
  SPEAKER_03: They are also not being held accountable either.
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's a byproduct of the horrible public education provided by the DFL and Education Minnesota in this state that keeps these children dumb and graduating when they shouldn't be graduating, when they're not proficient in reading, in math.
• 1:29:14
  SPEAKER_03: This is all part of the wrong track Minnesota available at americanexperiment.org.
• 1:29:18
  SPEAKER_03: Go and see it for yourself.
• 1:29:20
  SPEAKER_03: Fact-based points relating to exactly what I'm what I'm talking about.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_03: Is this you want to talk about a systemic issue?
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's not white supremacy.
• 1:29:28
  SPEAKER_03: No, the systemic issue involves the Democrat policies.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_03: We have a systemic issue of Democrat policies that is leading to so many of the stories that we are talking about on a daily basis, including this one here of the car window smashing taking place, the lack of accountability of children.
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody asked, are uh gangs using young kids to do their crimes like a car window breaking?
• 1:29:54
  SPEAKER_03: In the past, I believe that this is when young kids were initiated into gangs by doing crimes.
• 1:29:59
  SPEAKER_03: That could be that could be part of the case.
• 1:30:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have any evidence uh of that.
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_03: From what I saw of the um like the ring doorbell footage of the kids walking through the parking uh parking lot and smashing the windows with the with the the hand tools.
• 1:30:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um again, it just seemed to be boredom.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_03: It just seemed like they were out just trying to find something to do, and this is what they decide decided to do.
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_03: On a lighter note, I mentioned this earlier, probably two words that I've never uh said on on during a broadcast before together butt sniffing.
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_03: A registered sex offender out of Glendale, California, who has a history of arrests in the San Fernando Valley, uh, has been arrested again, allegedly, for sniffing women's buttocks.
• 1:30:46
  SPEAKER_03: On Kalice Crowder39 arrested last week by the Glendale Police Department.
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_03: Officers were called to a business near uh an elementary school on Friday.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_03: There, witnesses say Crowder was crouching down and getting close to others.
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_03: Eyewitnesses obtained surveillance footage uh from a big save discount store where the suspect can be seen crouching down near an employee who was stocking shelves.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_03: The store manager Jimmy Coe said, I know he's harmless, but it's a weird fetish.
• 1:31:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, it's kind of not harmless.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, not touching anybody, but I don't know.
• 1:31:20
  SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't go so far as to say it was harmless.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_03: Coe said that it was the third time the man had engaged in similar behavior at the store.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_03: Crouching down, like he normally would, he'll just look around and try to take a chance to sniff any woman's butt.
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe he identifies as a dog.
• 1:31:41
  SPEAKER_04: Who are we to judge?
• 1:31:44
  SPEAKER_03: The first time I caught him, I was like, what is this guy doing?
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_03: He looks creepy.
• 1:31:48
  SPEAKER_03: Police said officers were also dispatched to a marshals store nearby, prompting them to review surveillance footage from the businesses.
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_03: The police were then able to identify Crowder from the footage.
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Khalise Crowder, not the conservative commentator Crowder.
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to point to make sure.
• 1:32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Could be a crossing of Crowders there.
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to cause confusion.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he was arrested for violating his terms of parole.
• 1:32:13
  SPEAKER_03: The court will now decide what comes next.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_03: At last check, he was being held without bail.
• 1:32:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh give him COVID.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_03: It takes away your sense of smell.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_03: Problem solved.
• 1:32:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, maybe don't do that.
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_03: That maybe maybe that's not the thing to do.
• 1:32:26
  SPEAKER_03: But maybe you could uh tell him he has to keep you know things shoved up his nose so he can't so he can't sniff, perhaps.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_47: What a weird fetish, by the way.
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_03: He was re-arrested in August of 2025 after reports of yet another sniffing incident at a Walgreens store.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_03: Just one month before the Walgreens incident, he was taken into custody after officers received a report of a suspicious person loitering in the women's department of Nordstrom Rack.
• 1:32:58
  SPEAKER_03: This guy's like stuck in the 90s, too, in terms of the places where he's visiting to do this.
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_03: A big, big save discount store.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_03: I mean Walgreens, but it's still around, but Nordstrom Rack.
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_03: What an odd choice of locations.
• 1:33:09
  SPEAKER_03: He was later found in a nearby Walmart, case in point, where police say that he was seen following a female shopper through the area.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_03: While in the women's section, the suspect was observed following a female customer crouching down near her and engaging in lewd behavior by inappropriately sniffing her buttocks.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_03: Given the nature of the behavior, officers made contact with the suspect and detained him for further investigation.
• 1:33:34
  SPEAKER_03: Is he having well, you know, is he trying to help women out?
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, just FYI.
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_03: Just I'm not helping the situation at all.
• 1:33:45
  SPEAKER_03: He made headlines in 2023 for stalking uh a woman, and it was captured on a video.
• 1:33:50
  SPEAKER_03: This time at a Barnes and Noble store.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_03: Michaela Whitter, who got video of it, her TikTok video of the incident garnered millions of views.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_03: In the video, Crowder is seeing crouching down near her legs.
• 1:34:04
  SPEAKER_03: When uh Whitter asked him what he was doing, he told her that he was tying his shoes.
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_03: She said it looked like he was smelling her from behind.
• 1:34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Witter also accused Crowder of doing the same thing to another woman at the uh store.
• 1:34:17
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:34:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, speaking of stuff that happened when we were kids and pranks getting pulled, my brothers uh ended up uh and maybe this guy, maybe that's what he needs to.
• 1:34:24
  SPEAKER_03: This guy used to go to Spencer's Gifts.
• 1:34:26
  SPEAKER_03: Because my brothers had grabbed the fart spray you can buy.
• 1:34:29
  SPEAKER_03: Tormented me as a child in the 80s with it.
• 1:34:31
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 1:34:32
  SPEAKER_03: They actually got in trouble.
• 1:34:33
  SPEAKER_03: My dad got really upset because it stunk my room up hard.
• 1:34:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because they sprayed fart spray everywhere.
• 1:34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe that's what you do.
• 1:34:41
  SPEAKER_03: Help this guy out, Reach.
• 1:34:43
  SPEAKER_03: We give, listen, we give the drug abusers, you know, free clean syringes to perpetuate their addictions.
• 1:34:54
  SPEAKER_03: We allow the homeless to build encampment infrastructures.
• 1:34:59
  SPEAKER_03: Can we not get this guy some fart spray?
• 1:35:02
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe that'll handle it.
• 1:35:06
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody had uh sent in a text to the uh blaster line at 651-964-0294 for the butt sniffer guy.
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_03: You know, maybe he's not dangerous, he's just nosy.
• 1:35:23
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_03: I was trepidatious on doing that story.
• 1:35:26
  SPEAKER_03: I thought about it for a bit and thought, you know, I'd tease it earlier.
• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_03: Why not?
• 1:35:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh totally worth it.
• 1:35:33
  SPEAKER_03: Just for that dad joke.
• 1:35:35
  SPEAKER_03: Totally, totally worth it.
• 1:35:38
  SPEAKER_03: All right, let's go back to the blaster line this morning at 651-964-0294.
• 1:35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Good morning, John.
• 1:35:45
  SPEAKER_14: You are 100% correct that it comes from the home.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_14: And specifically, most of these kids do not have strong father figures.
• 1:35:54
  SPEAKER_14: Toxic male men like myself who taught my children that you are going to be held accountable for the actions that you do.
• 1:36:02
  SPEAKER_14: And they learned to emulate what they saw from their father, which is somebody that got up and went to work every day, obeyed the law, and was respectful of others and other people's property.
• 1:36:13
  SPEAKER_14: We have feminized these boys with these men that are not part of the households, and this is why we have such huge problems in this society.
• 1:36:22
  SPEAKER_03: Boy, on the scope, I'm gonna give on the Scott Con level a five today.
• 1:36:27
  SPEAKER_03: Producer Devin agrees.
• 1:36:28
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Scott.
• 1:36:29
  SPEAKER_03: Always great to uh hear from you.
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  SPEAKER_27: Yeah, I believe it starts with the parents too, but I'm gonna stop it there.
• 1:39:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm uh I'm uh not a hundred percent sure on the uh rest of that particular comment.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um and somebody else agreed, ScottCon 5 on Scott's phone call just a moment ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, let's go here.
• 1:39:16
  SPEAKER_03: After a hot start, Minnesota State Fair attendance cools over its first weekend.
• 1:39:23
  SPEAKER_03: So there was a two record-breaking first days, but attendance declined over the weekend.
• 1:39:29
  SPEAKER_03: The latest figures show the Minnesota State Fair.
• 1:39:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and the number of, I won't get into all the numbers.
• 1:39:35
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of the numbers here, but you know, it's just I could be saying numbers for the entire segment.
• 1:39:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna mean nothing to you.
• 1:39:40
  SPEAKER_03: So we broke records the first couple of days, but then over the weekend it declined.
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_03: There was a steeper drop on Saturday on Sunday than there was on Saturday.
• 1:39:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the weekend's attendance saw a decline compared to 2025.
• 1:39:53
  SPEAKER_03: Both days, however, were still better attended than 2024.
• 1:39:58
  SPEAKER_03: So 2024 was higher and then uh than than the year prior, and then this is a little bit more than that.
• 1:40:05
  SPEAKER_03: For the midweek, it will be interesting, the story from Bring Me The News says, to see whether then the later than usual Labor Day will impact attendance figures.
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_03: Number of school districts across the state are resuming classes this week, including the major Twin Cities districts of Rosemount, Apple Valley, Egan, um, Wyzetta, and Elk River.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_03: Minnesota's largest districts, Anoka Hennepin, St.
• 1:40:30
  SPEAKER_03: Paul, and Minneapolis, don't resume until after Labor Day.
• 1:40:33
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe the drop has to do from um has to do with two uh two different things.
• 1:40:40
  SPEAKER_03: So, first off, uh the lefties may be upset because of the anti-Trump art that's been removed.
• 1:40:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'll get into that story coming up.
• 1:40:49
  SPEAKER_03: So they're not able to go and see the 8647 art uh display.
• 1:40:54
  SPEAKER_03: And you might have fewer conservatives going to the fair for fear of the children being sexually exploited by men dressing as women during the drag shows.
• 1:41:07
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe those two instant uh instances are keeping some fairgoers uh away.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_03: Just a thought.
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's also been kind of hot.
• 1:41:16
  SPEAKER_03: Let's be honest.
• 1:41:17
  SPEAKER_03: I had to mow the lawn yesterday.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_03: That was not fun.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_03: So let's start with the uh first one, and that would be the drag shows.
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_03: Corn dogs, cheese curds, carnival rides, and children handing dollar bills to a drag performer.
• 1:41:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, that is a true story.
• 1:41:31
  SPEAKER_03: I saw the footage, I saw the pictures.
• 1:41:33
  SPEAKER_03: There is a dude dressed as a woman, gallivanting around sexually while children watch, and some adults, whoever is in charge of this parent, that, in my uh opinion, are committing a form of child abuse by subjecting their children to this overly sexualized behavior of a man dressed as a woman and handing that individual money to boot.
• 1:41:57
  SPEAKER_03: Have you just given up on raising your kid?
• 1:42:00
  SPEAKER_03: Or are you just preparing them for the inevitability of them spending an inordinate amount of time at strip clubs because they haven't found any meaning in life because of your poor parenting skills?
• 1:42:13
  SPEAKER_03: Inquiring minds would like to know.
• 1:42:16
  SPEAKER_03: Or are you just doing it because you feel like you're sticking it to the right and you're willing to go and use children to be your political pawns?
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think all of those options are quite possibly relevant.
• 1:42:27
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• 1:42:34
  SPEAKER_03: So among the scenes of the opening days at the Minnesota State Fair, the video of an all-ages drag performance showing that young boy approaching a performer with cash.
• 1:42:46
  SPEAKER_03: State Representative Pam Altendorf, Republican out of uh Red Wing, recorded the video of Friday's performance by Power Colon, drag review, which appeared on the 27th and 28th as part of the State Fair's official entertainment lineup.
• 1:43:01
  SPEAKER_03: So I guess conceivably they're not going to be performing anymore.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_03: So Altendorf wrote on X.
• 1:43:07
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think about the kids in this video handing dollars to a drag performer?
• 1:43:12
  SPEAKER_03: Telling Alpha News that she was particularly troubled by the lack of any age restrictions or warnings for children who could encounter the performance while walking through the fairgrounds, including young 4-H participants who may not be accompanied by their parents.
• 1:43:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so that could have been it as well.
• 1:43:31
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, somebody said they're not strip clubs, they're called bathhouses now.
• 1:43:35
  SPEAKER_03: That could be both.
• 1:43:39
  SPEAKER_03: Any child any age could walk through it, Altendorf went on to say, the representative, and not be alerted to what they are walking into.
• 1:43:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that's a point that I want to bring up again at the end of the story.
• 1:43:50
  SPEAKER_03: Altendorf says she has no issue with adults choosing to attend drag shows, but believes children should be left out of them.
• 1:43:56
  SPEAKER_03: If you're an adult, do whatever the heck you want.
• 1:43:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care, she said.
• 1:43:59
  SPEAKER_03: Just leave your kids out of this.
• 1:44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Completely agree.
• 1:44:01
  SPEAKER_03: She questioned how drag a drag performance could be presented as family entertainment at an event of uh at an event that generations of Minnesotans have attended with their children.
• 1:44:12
  SPEAKER_03: For Altendorf, who described her family as longtime state fair goers, the contrast was striking.
• 1:44:18
  SPEAKER_03: Republican State Senator Michael Holstrom had an even harsher assessment saying, This uh degenerate filth has no place at the state fair.
• 1:44:29
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:44:31
  SPEAKER_03: What are you teaching this boy?
• 1:44:32
  SPEAKER_03: That his body is maybe a mistake, that this grotesque a caricature is an accurate portrayal of womanhood, that femininity is a characteristic to objectify and monetize, wrote Michael Holstrom.
• 1:44:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll apply uh the argument that I've made before in similar circumstances like this of where'd all the feminists go, man?
• 1:44:52
  SPEAKER_03: Because he makes a great point on this.
• 1:44:53
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, if you want to go to a drag show or dress in drag and do it among adults, I'm with Altendorf.
• 1:44:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care.
• 1:44:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have to go, I don't have to see it.
• 1:45:00
  SPEAKER_03: And that's part of the problem with this here, because I don't think that these performances were anything about the performances or art or vaudeville or however the Minnesota State Fair officials want to go and describe it.
• 1:45:11
  SPEAKER_03: No, this was activism, and I'll tell you why in just a moment.
• 1:45:14
  SPEAKER_03: The images that are circulating from the fair put a new spotlight on the questions Alpha News raised before the first cheese curg hit the fryer.
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_03: As Alpha News previously reported, Power Colon Drag Review was scheduled for multiple performances.
• 1:45:30
  SPEAKER_03: The State Fair promoted the act as a high-energy drag performance to showcase celebrating the artistry, creativity, and diversity of Minnesota's drag community.
• 1:45:39
  SPEAKER_03: This is an all-ages production intended to be enjoyed by audiences of all ages, and the cast includes performers of various ages.
• 1:45:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now, Alpha News specifically asked the Minnesota State Fair whether there were any age restrictions or advisories associated with the performances.
• 1:45:55
  SPEAKER_03: The fair did not directly answer the question.
• 1:45:57
  SPEAKER_03: Instead, the fair officials put the decision on the parents' hands.
• 1:46:02
  SPEAKER_03: Now, there was another friend of the show who had emailed me and said they had reached out, and the response that they had received from the Minnesota State Fair was that these would only be in specific locations that you would have to go to if you wanted to attend.
• 1:46:16
  SPEAKER_03: When the truth of the matter is that wasn't the case.
• 1:46:18
  SPEAKER_03: These were pop-up events.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_03: We encourage everyone, the State Fair told Alpha News, to use their own judgment in determining if a show is appropriate for them and their families.
• 1:46:31
  SPEAKER_03: Fair officials also defended drag and artistic discipline with a long history in theater in vaudeville, doing nothing with my fingers, and called it an increasingly popular contemporary performance art form enjoyed by many.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_03: The fair said it strives to be present, uh, to present, excuse me, programming that reflects a wide variety of styles and genres, and noted that drag performances had appeared at the fair before.
• 1:46:57
  SPEAKER_03: Power has been described by Minneapolis St.
• 1:46:59
  SPEAKER_03: Paul magazine as a by POC-focused musical sketch formed following the death of George Floyd with the goal of expanding opportunities for historically underrepresented queer performers and artists.
• 1:47:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:47:14
  SPEAKER_03: Power had previously told Alpha News it believed it had created a fun and welcoming experience for fairgoers, while also echoing the state fair's position that parents should decide for themselves whether to attend.
• 1:47:25
  SPEAKER_03: We encourage individuals and families to use their own judgment when deciding which activities and performances are right for them.
• 1:47:32
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, um, so a couple of things uh on on this that I want to mention.
• 1:47:38
  SPEAKER_03: First off, um, you know, along with the sentiments of both uh Altendorf and with for Holstrom, there are other traditions at the Minnesota State Fair.
• 1:47:52
  SPEAKER_03: I believe these are spoken traditions, okay.
• 1:47:55
  SPEAKER_03: Wherein you're not supposed to be protesting.
• 1:47:58
  SPEAKER_03: You're not supposed to have signs protesting, okay?
• 1:48:02
  SPEAKER_03: And not only do we have the cowardly yellow shirt senior citizen indivincible crowd parking themselves on the street in front of the GOP booth and building day in and day out, which is clearly protesting.
• 1:48:19
  SPEAKER_03: You also have these performers, and this is not being, as I said, held in a single location.
• 1:48:25
  SPEAKER_03: At least they weren't.
• 1:48:25
  SPEAKER_03: I believe they're done now, but they weren't being held in a single location where you can go and say, hey, power colon drag review is performing at noon at this location, at this spot in the fair.
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_03: No, these were pop-up events.
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_03: And because they were pop-up events, this is activism to me.
• 1:48:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's designed to provoke.
• 1:48:50
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_03: This wasn't about advancing any narratives or underprivileged uh, you know, members of our society.
• 1:48:59
  SPEAKER_03: No, this was activism.
• 1:49:00
  SPEAKER_03: They knew what they were doing, they knew they would get more attention by doing it this way.
• 1:49:05
  SPEAKER_03: They knew there were plenty of those broken and brainwashed who'd be more than happy to go and be a part of the audience and even go and bring their children.
• 1:49:15
  SPEAKER_03: They knew they were fully aware of all of that.
• 1:49:19
  SPEAKER_03: So personally, under this tradition of not protesting at the state fair, I do believe this falls into it.
• 1:49:26
  SPEAKER_03: And absolutely the cowardly, indivisible idiot protesters in front of the GOP booth fall into that category as well.
• 1:49:35
  SPEAKER_03: This art that got put up at the Minnesota the crop art was a form of uh activism.
• 1:49:40
  SPEAKER_03: And we'll get to this story here in just a moment.
• 1:49:42
  SPEAKER_03: The framing of this um 8647 art by Bring Me The News is just such classic, classic bias coming from our local media.
• 1:49:54
  SPEAKER_03: Fair removed the artwork, which simply reads 8647.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_03: At the artist's request.
• 1:50:02
  SPEAKER_03: It just simply reads 8647.
• 1:50:05
  SPEAKER_03: We don't know what the big deal is.
• 1:50:08
  SPEAKER_03: We'll get to that in just a moment here on the John Justice Show.
• 1:50:10
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get to some of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning.
• 1:50:13
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  SPEAKER_15: Oh my God.
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_15: Not only are they bringing kids to foreign shows at the state fair, but they're giving them money like it's a freaking strip club.
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_15: Okay, this is child sexual exploitation.
• 1:50:32
  SPEAKER_15: Hands down.
• 1:50:33
  SPEAKER_15: Those people need to be in jail, not walking to the state fair.
• 1:50:37
  SPEAKER_15: This is freaking ridiculous.
• 1:50:40
  SPEAKER_15: Some of the fondest memories I have is going to the state fair with my parents and freaking putting dollar bills in the garter of a tranny.
• 1:50:52
  SPEAKER_27: Power colon drag review.
• 1:50:54
  SPEAKER_27: That seems exactly like Taylor made event that Peggy Flagin was for it.
• 1:50:59
  SPEAKER_27: I'm surprised she wasn't over there.
• 1:51:02
  SPEAKER_27: Maybe that's not her thing anymore.
• 1:51:03
  SPEAKER_27: Maybe she's involved.
• 1:51:04
  SPEAKER_27: Could be, who knows?
• 1:51:06
  SPEAKER_03: Again, 651 uh 964-0294.
• 1:51:12
  SPEAKER_03: This is the uh new number for the blaster line where you can leave a voice and or text message.
• 1:51:17
  SPEAKER_26: Hey, John, and you mocked me for suggesting that the fair should be moved.
• 1:51:22
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, that's a dumb idea.
• 1:51:23
  SPEAKER_26: Yeah, they could have two fairs, one for the degenerates and one for the rest of the people.
• 1:51:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Lou, you make me laugh.
• 1:51:32
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for the uh thank you for the comments.
• 1:51:35
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 1:51:36
  SPEAKER_03: Coming up.
• 1:51:37
  SPEAKER_03: Anti-Trump crop art comes down to Minnesota, uh, comes down at Minnesota State Fair after artist is doxxed.
• 1:51:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh doxxed.
• 1:51:45
  SPEAKER_03: The artist wasn't doxed.
• 1:51:47
  SPEAKER_03: The name, her name was attached to the art.
• 1:51:52
  SPEAKER_03: All you have to do is Google her name to find out who she is.
• 1:51:56
  SPEAKER_03: If she didn't want people to know who made the 8647 crop art, then don't go and attach your name to it.
• 1:52:04
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, this is what she wanted.
• 1:52:06
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  SPEAKER_38: I don't think any other state has this besides Minnesota.
• 1:53:46
  SPEAKER_38: Where okay, number one, you can vouch for up to eight people.
• 1:53:48
  SPEAKER_38: Yeah.
• 1:53:48
  SPEAKER_38: But then we also have same-day election uh registration, and we don't have provisional ballots.
• 1:53:53
  SPEAKER_38: So those those elements all combine together.
• 1:53:55
  SPEAKER_38: You don't other states that have same-day voter registration have a provisional ballot, and so when you register to vote, typically if you're doing it in advance, you know, your your registration is checked so that when you actually go to you know vote on election day, you've been vetted by the state in some way.
• 1:54:10
  SPEAKER_38: Um but when you have same day registration, obviously there's not time for that to happen.
• 1:54:14
  SPEAKER_38: And so your vote gets counted immediately.
• 1:54:16
  SPEAKER_38: It gets put into the pool and it's never coming back out.
• 1:54:18
  SPEAKER_38: Other states, they will have same-day registrants use a what's called a provisional ballot.
• 1:54:23
  SPEAKER_38: And so, you know, they they cast their vote, but it's set off aside, and it's not actually added into the mix until their registration has been verified, which makes sense.
• 1:54:31
  SPEAKER_38: You know, Minnesota doesn't have that.
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  SPEAKER_39: So Scott Pressler, he's a conservative activist, he posted on X that he also did some of these data requests.
• 1:55:20
  SPEAKER_39: And he was told that in St.
• 1:55:21
  SPEAKER_39: Louis County, which is the home of Duluth, 737 people registered to vote through vouching.
• 1:55:28
  SPEAKER_39: 737.
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  SPEAKER_39: So let's go back to the 2022 election really quick just to see if we can get a clear example of okay, will that number of people vouching ever really matter?
• 1:55:39
  SPEAKER_39: It seems like a small number.
• 1:55:42
  SPEAKER_39: Well, in 2022, in the Cottage Grove Hastings area, Democrat Judy Seaburger won her state Senate election by 321 votes.
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  SPEAKER_39: As our listeners may remember, the Democrats held the Senate that year by one seat.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want to get over to the latest controversy.
• 1:56:19
  SPEAKER_03: We had the uh power colon drag review.
• 1:56:24
  SPEAKER_03: Took place over the course of the past few days, caused some controversy.
• 1:56:27
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, they are all done with their performances.
• 1:56:32
  SPEAKER_03: Also, this anti-Trump crop art, not crap art, as somebody said.
• 1:56:37
  SPEAKER_03: Although you can make that argument, I suppose.
• 1:56:39
  SPEAKER_03: The uh anti-Trump crop art comes down as Minnesota State Fair uh artist is doxxed.
• 1:56:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, she wasn't well let's let's let's get into it.
• 1:56:48
  SPEAKER_03: So a piece of Minnesota State Fair uh crop art uh was removed from displays on Sunday.
• 1:56:57
  SPEAKER_03: And this was at the artist's request, seemingly after she was targeted for doxing by right-wing social media accounts.
• 1:57:06
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:57:07
  SPEAKER_03: There are dozens of political crop art pieces this year, but the one that really struck a nerve with President Donald Trump's supporters simply uh reads 8647 a reference to removing Trump from office.
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's not what it's a reference to.
• 1:57:25
  SPEAKER_03: Can it be a reference to that?
• 1:57:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it can be a reference to that.
• 1:57:28
  SPEAKER_03: Does it mean more than that?
• 1:57:29
  SPEAKER_03: It absolutely means more than that, which is why the left keeps using it.
• 1:57:34
  SPEAKER_03: Don't act dumb.
• 1:57:38
  SPEAKER_03: Which is what Bring Me the News is doing here.
• 1:57:41
  SPEAKER_03: Simply it just it just simply reads 8647.
• 1:57:44
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's do this another way, and I wasn't the first one to come up with this.
• 1:57:47
  SPEAKER_03: This person's name.
• 1:57:49
  SPEAKER_03: The person who made this is Tamara Sawyer.
• 1:57:53
  SPEAKER_03: She works for the Minnesota Management and Budget Office.
• 1:57:56
  SPEAKER_03: You can say that I doxxed her, but all that people did was Google her name.
• 1:58:00
  SPEAKER_03: Tamara Sawyer is underneath the piece of art in big bold letters for everybody to see who it is.
• 1:58:07
  SPEAKER_03: You could literally be standing there, go on your phone, look it up, and find out that Tamara Sawyer works for the Minnesota Management and Budget Office.
• 1:58:16
  SPEAKER_03: If she didn't want individuals to know that she created the 8647 art, then she shouldn't have put her name under it for crying out loud.
• 1:58:24
  SPEAKER_03: If she stands by her artwork, then she should go and leave it up.
• 1:58:27
  SPEAKER_03: If it does just simply mean to remove Trump from office, then go for it.
• 1:58:32
  SPEAKER_03: But you and I both know that's not what it simply means.
• 1:58:35
  SPEAKER_03: Case in point, what if I were to have gone online for the sake of argument?
• 1:58:40
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't, and I wouldn't, but what if I did?
• 1:58:42
  SPEAKER_03: Because other people did.
• 1:58:44
  SPEAKER_03: And said we should 8647 Tamara Sawyer.
• 1:58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Do you not think for a second that she more than likely would go and see that as a threat to her own life?
• 1:58:54
  SPEAKER_03: Because that's why people are using it.
• 1:58:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's the left trying to play coy, thinking they're being clever when really no, they're being incredibly offensive and dangerous when it comes to the individuals that are radicalized by lunatics out there that think it's funny to go and talk about taking out a sitting president for crying out loud.
• 1:59:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, but Bring Me the News does, you know, their best to go and run cover.
• 1:59:21
  SPEAKER_03: The Minnesota State Fair Art removed the artwork at the request of the artist, according to a spokesperson, for Bring Me the News.
• 1:59:27
  SPEAKER_03: Now, before I get to exactly how Bring Me the News framed this, let's go ahead and make it official this morning.
• 1:59:59
  SPEAKER_16: Very good.
• 2:00:00
  SPEAKER_16: Very good.
• 2:00:02
  SPEAKER_03: Anti-Trump crop art and comes down, Minnesota State Fair after artist is doxed.
• 2:00:08
  SPEAKER_03: Wasn't doxed, at least not my definition of doxing.
• 2:00:10
  SPEAKER_03: And Bring Me the News wasn't the only person to run with it this way.
• 2:00:13
  SPEAKER_03: The Star Tribune's headline says almost exactly the same thing.
• 2:00:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Bring Me the News goes on to say 86 is a term commonly used in bars and restaurants as shorthand for remove when the item is no longer available or that person should be removed from the premises.
• 2:00:28
  SPEAKER_03: Trump is the 47th president of the United States.
• 2:00:31
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, that's fine.
• 2:00:32
  SPEAKER_03: What they said isn't inaccurate, but it completely discounts the reality of how people on the left are using it, and they know damn well that's how they're using it as a threat to the president.
• 2:00:43
  SPEAKER_03: They're trying to be clever, but it's not funny.
• 2:00:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's not clever, and there are too many wack-a-odles out there who believe in the lies that have been perpetuated by the anti-Trump crowd that unfortunately have even attempted to go and do something about it on their own by attempting to 8647.
• 2:01:05
  SPEAKER_03: Use, they go on to say, of 8647 has grown during the Trump uh second term among his opponents, and right-wing commentators have been attempting to alter the meaning of the term to suggest that it's a call to be assassinated.
• 2:01:20
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 2:01:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what it is.
• 2:01:24
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's uh it's it's uh Republicans' fault.
• 2:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: They're the ones that have been misinterpreting this.
• 2:01:29
  SPEAKER_03: If they just wouldn't misinterpret it, then this would not be a big deal.
• 2:01:33
  SPEAKER_03: Give me a how much cover can local media run for those on the left right now?
• 2:01:41
  SPEAKER_03: The lead story, I posted this on X before the show started today.
• 2:01:45
  SPEAKER_03: The lead story today at the on the Star Tribune.
• 2:01:49
  SPEAKER_03: Let me see if I can pull it up quickly from my own uh personal uh personal feed.
• 2:01:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the lead story this morning was another scary picture of ice agents in the dead of winter out in a parking lot with a bunch of flashbangs going off and people running around.
• 2:02:07
  SPEAKER_03: Expected indictment of ice agent accused in Minneapolis shooting remains in limbo.
• 2:02:12
  SPEAKER_03: This story was a week old.
• 2:02:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's Christian Castro, the individual who Ellison and Moriarty were attempting to extradite to Minnesota so they can take political advantage of it.
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_03: Governor Greg Abbott told him to shove it.
• 2:02:27
  SPEAKER_03: The guy spent 90 days in jail, had to be released per the law in Texas, simply wants to leave the country to go with his girlfriend and marry her and live in Mexico.
• 2:02:39
  SPEAKER_03: There's still an investigation going on from the DOJ.
• 2:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: But my point is the lead story in the Star Tribune, complete with the scary picture from months ago, is a story that's over a week's old.
• 2:02:50
  SPEAKER_03: The failing publication and other media outlets continue to do everything they can to help push the leftist agenda here in Minnesota.
• 2:03:00
  SPEAKER_03: This is just another example of that with the ridiculous coverage of this crop art.
• 2:03:05
  SPEAKER_03: At the end of the day, is it that big of a deal?
• 2:03:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 2:03:08
  SPEAKER_03: You tell me.
• 2:03:10
  SPEAKER_03: Is it funny?
• 2:03:11
  SPEAKER_03: Is it clever to go and continue to perpetuate this idea about 8647?
• 2:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: What happened to that respect for the presidency that I grew up with when I was a kid growing up, and you would want to meet the president regardless of who they were.
• 2:03:31
  SPEAKER_03: It still exists out there, by the way.
• 2:03:33
  SPEAKER_03: We saw this with the America 250 IndyCar race a couple of weekends ago, with the podium finishers being able to meet the president and being very vocal about how amazing it was to meet a sitting president.
• 2:03:43
  SPEAKER_03: I have no doubt whatsoever that they would have said exactly the same comments relating to Joe Biden and Trump in his first term and probably former president Barack Obama, because we used to have a level of reverence and respect for the presidency, regardless of the political affiliation of the individual sitting in the Oval Office.
• 2:04:03
  SPEAKER_03: But the leftists have done everything they can to go and nuke that idea.
• 2:04:08
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody had texted into the blaster line regarding the artist on the 8647 at the state fair having her name on the display.
• 2:04:17
  SPEAKER_03: She won a notoriety.
• 2:04:18
  SPEAKER_03: Influencers, desire, fame, or infamy either um either are acceptable in their in their world.
• 2:04:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing that the same people who thought the Target Clown costume was a dog whistle for a racist minstrel show play like they don't understand what 8647 is being a reference to harming the president.
• 2:04:36
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's an that's a fantastic point.
• 2:04:40
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for that.
• 2:04:41
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go to the uh blaster line and hear your voice messages this morning.
• 2:04:45
  SPEAKER_09: Hey, John, just occurred to me.
• 2:04:47
  SPEAKER_09: I'm intimately familiar with the state fair and the inner workings of it.
• 2:04:53
  SPEAKER_09: And the longtime manager retired about three years ago.
• 2:04:57
  SPEAKER_09: A younger woman was promoted and is in charge of it, and I believe this is year three of her administration.
• 2:05:04
  SPEAKER_09: If we're seeing changes like this, this may be a reflection of the new administration.
• 2:05:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, she pulled the art down um her herself.
• 2:05:13
  SPEAKER_03: She personally pulled the art piece down.
• 2:05:16
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody um had texted me that her salary was posted online.
• 2:05:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's doubled over the course of the past 10 years.
• 2:05:24
  SPEAKER_03: Getting back to the just the news piece, 8647 artwork started circulating on social media following a Friday post on X from Liz Collin of the conservative website Alpha News, who said a tipster shared the image with her.
• 2:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: So so far in this piece, uh Bring Me The News has downplayed what 8647 actually means, trying to run cover for those on the left.
• 2:05:46
  SPEAKER_03: They basically said that it's uh the Republicans who are misinterpreting what 8647 means.
• 2:05:51
  SPEAKER_03: And there are they are insinuating that this wouldn't even have been a big deal if it wasn't for Liz Collin.
• 2:05:57
  SPEAKER_03: Reminds me of like a Scooby-Doo cartoon.
• 2:05:59
  SPEAKER_03: It wouldn't have been a problem if it wasn't for that pesky alpha news and Liz Collin getting in our way.
• 2:06:07
  SPEAKER_03: At least one account responded to the post with the home address and phone number for the St.
• 2:06:11
  SPEAKER_03: Paul-based artist.
• 2:06:12
  SPEAKER_03: Let her know how much you love her art, added the commentator, whose username includes a reference to MAGA.
• 2:06:20
  SPEAKER_03: Not an appropriate thing to do, but all that is public information.
• 2:06:23
  SPEAKER_03: And if she doesn't want it to be public information, then she should probably go out of her way to hire somebody to go and scrub the internet so that her home address is not available.
• 2:06:32
  SPEAKER_03: Trust me, I know of which I speak.
• 2:06:35
  SPEAKER_03: But also, who's to say that that individual who encouraged people to go and do that was actually somebody aligning with the right and wasn't just somebody on the left, which happens all the time, that wants to go and make the right look bad by posting as if they were on the right or MAGA and then putting up something that is inappropriate because you shouldn't be going and bugging this woman at home.
• 2:06:57
  SPEAKER_03: Sharing a person's private information online, known as doxing, often leads to harassment and can escalate the uh death threats or violence.
• 2:07:04
  SPEAKER_03: I wonder how they feel about indivisible when they go to politicians' homes.
• 2:07:08
  SPEAKER_03: Out of curiosity.
• 2:07:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because it seems like the mentality in the story does align with those on the left.
• 2:07:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know if you know this.
• 2:07:14
  SPEAKER_03: There have been laws that have been attempted to be put forward to keep protesters from arriving at politicians' homes homes, and those on the left uh go out of their way during the legislative sessions to make sure that uh that doesn't happen, meaning they want the ability of people to be protested at home.
• 2:07:31
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, in terms of doxing information online, okay.
• 2:07:35
  SPEAKER_03: Well, then the internet just doxes everybody because everybody's information is already there and it's available.
• 2:07:42
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 2:07:45
  SPEAKER_03: They go on in this piece to say that this year's crop art selection includes a wide variety of political commentary, including conservative art such as Fauci Lied, a reference to infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci, for those that weren't aware, who guided the country's COVID-19 response during the first Trump administration and the Biden administration.
• 2:08:04
  SPEAKER_03: And if people are offended and don't like the Fauci art, the same thing could happen.
• 2:08:12
  SPEAKER_03: The Fauci art was located directly beneath the 8647 piece.
• 2:08:16
  SPEAKER_03: The crop art displays also include a number of pieces critical of ICE following Operation Metro Surge.
• 2:08:23
  SPEAKER_03: It cracks me up that they included the Fauci art in there because what happens if suddenly now individuals on the left start doxing the person who created the Fauci art, and then we have a similar controversy brewing, and that person decides to pull their anti-fauci art down, and now we have the same story again, except this time it would have been just it would have been bring me the news, who would have been the ones responsible, and not that pesky Liz Cullen over at Alpha News.
• 2:08:52
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get to some of your thoughts from the blaster line.
• 2:08:55
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• 2:08:59
  SPEAKER_28: So the group that sees microaggressions hiding everywhere uh can't tell that 8647 is uh an aggression.
• 2:09:08
  SPEAKER_28: And they literally pride themselves on being able to sniff out the tiniest microaggression.
• 2:09:13
  SPEAKER_28: I I think that's kind of entertaining.
• 2:09:15
  SPEAKER_03: By the way, I'm convinced that he used sniff out only because of the previous story of the serial butt sniffer.
• 2:09:21
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to say that at first.
• 2:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: You can't convince me otherwise.
• 2:09:27
  SPEAKER_22: John, aren't these the same people that lost their minds when they saw a bumper sticker that said let's go brandon?
• 2:09:36
  SPEAKER_22: They seem to know what that meant.
• 2:09:37
  SPEAKER_04: That's a really good point.
• 2:09:38
  SPEAKER_04: You're right.
• 2:09:39
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I miss those days.
• 2:09:42
  SPEAKER_03: The let's go brandon one was that was fun.
• 2:09:45
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, 651-964-0294.
• 2:09:48
  SPEAKER_20: Yeah, good morning, John.
• 2:09:50
  SPEAKER_20: I think someone with more reach than I have on X should fix that photo that crap art to say 8644.
• 2:10:03
  SPEAKER_20: And uh post it and see what kind of reactions you might get.
• 2:10:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I think I think we all know the reactions that you would get.
• 2:10:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think there's any doubt about that whatso whatsoever.
• 2:10:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's the double standard.
• 2:10:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's always the double standard.
• 2:10:18
  SPEAKER_03: So this was the Star Tribune version.
• 2:10:20
  SPEAKER_03: And we'll move on to some other issues here on the John Justice show for a Tuesday.
• 2:10:24
  SPEAKER_03: State Fair removes crop art from exhibition after artists allegedly doxed.
• 2:10:29
  SPEAKER_03: Visitors spotted the State Fair staff taking the piece off the wall on Sunday.
• 2:10:33
  SPEAKER_03: It featured the term 8647, which is used by critics of President Donald Trump.
• 2:10:38
  SPEAKER_03: And again, just for those in the back, um, this isn't doxing, in my opinion.
• 2:10:44
  SPEAKER_03: The woman's name was attached to the piece of art.
• 2:10:47
  SPEAKER_03: You know, this because this isn't like a law enforcement officer being identified by the public or a private citizen trying to remain anonymous amid some brewing controversy, right?
• 2:10:57
  SPEAKER_03: This is a, in this case, woman who decided to create a politically offensive piece of art threatening a United States president sitting in office, put it on display.
• 2:11:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's clearly designed to provoke.
• 2:11:09
  SPEAKER_03: If she doesn't like the attention, that's on her.
• 2:11:11
  SPEAKER_03: By the way, do we even know if she cares if she was identified, or is it just the leftist media pushing that agenda?
• 2:11:17
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I know that she put the, she pulled the art down to avoid the controversy, but we haven't heard any quotes from her.
• 2:11:24
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, how much of this is her being doxed and how much of this is the media just going and assuming that she's being doxxed?
• 2:11:32
  SPEAKER_03: Inquiring minds would like to know.
• 2:11:36
  SPEAKER_03: I have people ask me a lot, like, how do you deal with this stuff every single day?
• 2:11:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, first off, I compartmentalize very, very well.
• 2:11:43
  SPEAKER_03: Had a conversation about this with Melinda uh yesterday.
• 2:11:46
  SPEAKER_03: They were dealing with some uh Oh, you know, I can talk about it on the show.
• 2:11:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of fun.
• 2:11:49
  SPEAKER_03: Kyle So Kyle's going to, and I'll I may have mentioned it before, but I won't now.
• 2:11:53
  SPEAKER_03: Kyle's going to he's going to college, taking some college courses, okay?
• 2:11:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um doesn't know what he wants to do with his future yet.
• 2:11:58
  SPEAKER_03: He's 19 years old, he'll be 20 years.
• 2:12:00
  SPEAKER_03: In in December.
• 2:12:01
  SPEAKER_03: So he's just trying to figure things, uh, figure things out.
• 2:12:03
  SPEAKER_03: So he's taking just taking some regular courses.
• 2:12:06
  SPEAKER_03: And unsurprisingly, the courses are filled with the leftist agenda.
• 2:12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Just not a huge surprise at all.
• 2:12:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's in the course curriculum.
• 2:12:14
  SPEAKER_03: He's reading through all this, he's sharing it with us.
• 2:12:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not shocked by this at all.
• 2:12:18
  SPEAKER_03: Melinda is beyond annoyed, and rightfully, rightfully so.
• 2:12:22
  SPEAKER_03: But we had this conversation and she's it's a nice balancing act between the two of us because I cover this stuff on a daily basis.
• 2:12:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I can, again, I can compartmentalize and I can go and I can I can deal with it better.
• 2:12:33
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• 2:12:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like if you want to go to war and challenge the teacher over some of their terminology and their descriptions, which are completely and totally off base, you can do that, but it's not changing the dynamics of anything.
• 2:12:52
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• 2:12:56
  SPEAKER_03: You're not gonna let them see the error of their ways and suddenly they're gonna end up acting like a like a conservative, right?
• 2:13:02
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• 2:15:05
  SPEAKER_38: I don't think any other state has this besides Minnesota, where okay, number one, you can vouch for up to eight people.
• 2:15:09
  SPEAKER_38: Yeah.
• 2:15:10
  SPEAKER_38: But then we also have same-day election uh registration, and we don't have provisional ballots.
• 2:15:14
  SPEAKER_38: So those elements all combine together.
• 2:15:16
  SPEAKER_38: You don't other states that have same-day voter registration have a provisional ballot, and so when you register to vote, typically if you're doing it in advance, you know, your your registration is checked so that when you actually go to you know vote on election day, you've been vetted by the state in some way.
• 2:15:31
  SPEAKER_38: Um but when you have same-day registration, obviously there's not time for that to happen.
• 2:15:35
  SPEAKER_38: And so your vote gets counted immediately.
• 2:15:37
  SPEAKER_38: It gets put into the pool and it's never coming back out.
• 2:15:39
  SPEAKER_38: Other states, they will have same-day registrants use a what's called a provisional ballot.
• 2:15:44
  SPEAKER_38: And so, you know, they they cast their vote, but it's set off aside, and it's not actually added into the mix until their registration has been verified, which makes sense.
• 2:15:52
  SPEAKER_38: It's you know, Minnesota doesn't have that.
• 2:15:54
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• 2:16:08
  SPEAKER_38: The new video that he came uh that he posted over this last weekend showed O'Keefe disguising himself in Muslim, traditional Muslim clothing and then entering a polling place in Minneapolis using the name of a registered voter in that precinct.
• 2:16:21
  SPEAKER_38: Now, currently under state law, a registered voter can vouch for up to eight other people on election day.
• 2:16:28
  SPEAKER_38: Their votes, these eight people who are vouched for by one person, get counted immediately.
• 2:16:34
  SPEAKER_38: There's you know, there's no question.
• 2:16:35
  SPEAKER_38: They're not held back in any kind of way, there's no other check that happens.
• 2:16:39
  SPEAKER_38: If you walk in on election day and you are ready not registered to vote, you can have someone next to you saying, I vouch for this person that they live in my precinct and they should vote.
• 2:16:47
  SPEAKER_38: And that's you know, that's the end of the discussion.
• 2:16:49
  SPEAKER_38: The exact quote from the election worker in this video was quote, you can vouch for them as ID for them.
• 2:16:56
  SPEAKER_38: You are the ID.
• 2:16:58
  SPEAKER_38: That is insane.
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• 2:18:00
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• 2:18:20
  SPEAKER_03: So yesterday I'm doing my uh prep.
• 2:18:24
  SPEAKER_03: I came across a clip from Peggy Flanagan.
• 2:18:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I haven't decided which I couldn't decide which order I wanted to do this.
• 2:18:33
  SPEAKER_03: So let's start off with the Peggy Flanagan clip.
• 2:18:35
  SPEAKER_03: So it's Peggy Flanagan, Senate candidate, obviously.
• 2:18:38
  SPEAKER_03: She's at the uh she's at the Minnesota State Fair over the weekend, and she's receiving an endorsement, apparently.
• 2:18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 2:18:45
  SPEAKER_03: So um this was an endorsement of the National Farmers Union Pack.
• 2:18:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 2:18:54
  SPEAKER_03: So she posts on X.
• 2:18:56
  SPEAKER_03: I am uh Peggy Flanagan, Minnesota is a leader in ag because of our farmers.
• 2:19:01
  SPEAKER_03: I am honored to have earned the endorsement of the National Farmers Union Pack and the opportunity to try uh MFU's new Apple Donut Ham Grinder Sandwich with their president.
• 2:19:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 2:19:17
  SPEAKER_03: So apple donut ham grinder sandwich.
• 2:19:21
  SPEAKER_03: If I wasn't on the diet, I might try it.
• 2:19:24
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, that rhymed.
• 2:19:25
  SPEAKER_03: So there's a video that goes along with it.
• 2:19:28
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to play for you a portion of it.
• 2:19:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's a little hard to hear.
• 2:19:31
  SPEAKER_03: I bumped up the audio.
• 2:19:32
  SPEAKER_03: But this was this was the video that candidate for Senate Peggy Flanagan posted regarding her national farmers union pack.
• 2:19:41
  SPEAKER_03: Let me see if you picked up if you pick up on the same thing that I picked up when I first uh heard and watched this uh video.
• 2:19:46
  unknown: Cheers.
• 2:19:47
  SPEAKER_05: Cheers.
• 2:19:49
  SPEAKER_37: Hi, I'm the Senate Governor Peggy Flanagan, and I'm here at the Minnesota Farmers Union with President Gary Burdish, and uh you've got some news to share.
• 2:19:58
  SPEAKER_41: We do a National Farmers Union or National Farmers Union Pack.
• 2:20:03
  SPEAKER_41: We endorse Peggy Clinton for the U.S.
• 2:20:06
  SPEAKER_41: Senate.
• 2:20:07
  SPEAKER_41: And uh, you know, she's been a terrific partner.
• 2:20:13
  SPEAKER_04: You endorse you endorse who exactly?
• 2:20:18
  SPEAKER_03: Did you so she's talking with the president of the National Farmers Union Pack?
• 2:20:23
  SPEAKER_03: So first off, she has to tee him up.
• 2:20:26
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's neither here nor there, but typically, like in a video like this, you would have the individual, right, who would handle all of it, but that's not the case here.
• 2:20:33
  SPEAKER_03: So she tees him up, you have something very important to share.
• 2:20:36
  SPEAKER_03: And then he goes and attempts to say that the National Farmer Union's PAC has endorsed Peggy Flanagan, although I question whether or not he was even aware of what her real name was.
• 2:20:52
  SPEAKER_37: Hi, I'm Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, and I'm here at the Minnesota Farmers Union with President Gary Burdish, and uh you've got some news to share.
• 2:21:01
  SPEAKER_41: We do a National Farmers Union or National Farmers Union.
• 2:21:05
  SPEAKER_41: We endorsed Peggy Flanan for the UNC.
• 2:21:10
  SPEAKER_04: Who's Peggy Flanan?
• 2:21:14
  SPEAKER_04: And why don't you reshoot the video?
• 2:21:19
  SPEAKER_04: If Kamala Harris is doing 30 seconds and 15 to 16 jump cuts, you couldn't have stopped and just said, or the guy couldn't have said, can you redo that?
• 2:21:30
  SPEAKER_04: Or does he legitimately not know what her name was?
• 2:21:33
  SPEAKER_04: We endorsed Peggy Flynn Flynn.
• 2:21:35
  SPEAKER_03: Flynn Flnin Fln.
• 2:21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Founder.
• 2:21:40
  SPEAKER_37: Hi, I'm Mint Governor Peggy Flanagan, and I'm here at the Minnesota Farmers Union with President Gary Burdish.
• 2:21:47
  SPEAKER_37: And uh you've got some news to share.
• 2:21:50
  SPEAKER_41: We have a National Farmers Union or National Farmers Unit Matt.
• 2:21:54
  SPEAKER_41: We endorse Peggy Flannin for the U.S.
• 2:22:01
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so that's not the only reason why.
• 2:22:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I grabbed the clip because I thought that part of it was funny.
• 2:22:06
  SPEAKER_03: But I also grabbed it because there's another story that's rather noteworthy.
• 2:22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Minnesota being the top agriculture, one of the top agriculture states in the nation.
• 2:22:14
  SPEAKER_03: According to a 2025 data from the Minnesota Department of Agriculture, the North Star state is fourth among all states for total crop cash receipts and eighth among all states for livestock cash receipts.
• 2:22:27
  SPEAKER_03: So Minnesota produces more than 20 billion in ag products annually.
• 2:22:32
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a huge part of our economy, which is why endorsements go a long way.
• 2:22:36
  SPEAKER_03: Now, while Peggy Flanagan or Peggy Flanagan was being endorsed by this uh National Farmers Union PAC, she did not receive a very key endorsement.
• 2:22:50
  SPEAKER_03: Representing tens of thousands of Minnesota farmers, the Minnesota Farmer Bureau lobbies, educates, and advocates on behalf of farmers.
• 2:23:00
  SPEAKER_03: When the campaign season arrives, the group's political action committees make candidate endorsements at the state and federal levels.
• 2:23:07
  SPEAKER_03: These are crucial endorsements.
• 2:23:09
  SPEAKER_03: So last week, the MFB unveiled its pack lists of endorsements for the 2026 elections.
• 2:23:16
  SPEAKER_03: Naturally, that endorsement list, which includes endorsements for the state legislature and Congress, is an indicator of where the farm vote may go this November.
• 2:23:25
  SPEAKER_03: In Minnesota, rural farmland is overwhelmingly represented by Republicans.
• 2:23:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm working off a version of the story here from Alpha News, by the way.
• 2:23:49
  SPEAKER_03: In this year's high stake race for U.S.
• 2:23:51
  SPEAKER_03: Senate, Republican Michelle Tefoya has won the MFBF PAC endorsement over Peggy Flanagan.
• 2:24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Earlier this month, both Tefoya and Flanagan were at the farm were at FarmFest to court farmers and other rural voters.
• 2:24:06
  SPEAKER_03: Given the significance of the agriculture industry in Minnesota, the Farm Bureau endorsement is sure to be a big boost for Tefoya's campaign.
• 2:24:15
  SPEAKER_03: Just to two years ago, the MFBF PAC, this same PAC, endorsed DFL Senator Amy Klobishar in her bid for U.S.
• 2:24:23
  SPEAKER_03: Senate.
• 2:24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Our agriculture community deserves a senator who will listen to them, stand up for them, and get government out of the way, Tefoya said in a statement about the endorsement.
• 2:24:33
  SPEAKER_03: I'll be a partner to Minnesota Farmers in Washington, not another obstacle.
• 2:24:38
  SPEAKER_03: So this provides a little bit more clarity as to why Peggy Flanagan put forward this video of the endorsement that she received from the lesser-known and lesser influential National Farmers Union PAC.
• 2:24:51
  SPEAKER_03: Not to mention the fact that the dude didn't even know what her name was.
• 2:24:55
  SPEAKER_37: Hi, I'm Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, and I'm here at the Minnesota Farmers Union with President Gary Burdish.
• 2:25:02
  SPEAKER_37: And uh you've got some news to share.
• 2:25:04
  SPEAKER_41: We do National Farmers Union, our National Farmers Union Pact, we endorse Peggy Flannon for the U.S.
• 2:25:12
  SPEAKER_41: Senate.
• 2:25:14
  SPEAKER_27: This is Mass Fluss Mike in Clearwater.
• 2:25:20
  SPEAKER_27: The fact that uh because the Minnesota Farm Bureau, the traditional farm bureau, endorsed Michelle Tafoya, the communists had to create a new farm organization to make sure that the communist, Peggy Flanagan, has some kind of farm endorsement.
• 2:25:38
  SPEAKER_27: I've never heard of the so-called national farm organization that she got endorsed by.
• 2:25:45
  SPEAKER_27: That's what I noticed, John.
• 2:25:46
  SPEAKER_27: Take care.
• 2:25:50
  SPEAKER_03: So getting back to more of these uh endorsements from this group, there's some other key uh notes, uh key things to take away from this Alpha News article.
• 2:25:58
  SPEAKER_03: So uh Minnesota's importance to the national agriculture industry, recognized in Congress with Klobichar serving as a ranking member of the Senate Ag Committee, and DFL Representative Craig serving as a ranking member of the House Ag Committee.
• 2:26:12
  SPEAKER_03: Now, Craig served in the U.S.
• 2:26:13
  SPEAKER_03: House of Representatives since 2019.
• 2:26:15
  SPEAKER_03: Craig opted not to seek re-election, as everybody knows, and instead ran for U.S.
• 2:26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Senate, lost the DFL primary for the Senate earlier this year to Flanagan.
• 2:26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Running to replace Craig, our Republican state senator Eric Pratt, former DFL State Senator Matt Little, while the MFBF PAC opted to endorse Craig, a Democrat in 2024.
• 2:26:38
  SPEAKER_03: The group has switched parties this year and endorsed Pratt in his bid for the second district.
• 2:26:47
  SPEAKER_03: This by the way, the the comment that we just got from the from the blaster, from the blaster line is interesting.
• 2:26:53
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know the background of the background of both of these packs.
• 2:26:56
  SPEAKER_03: I've basically just learned over the course of the past 24 hours doing a little bit of research.
• 2:27:00
  SPEAKER_03: As I mentioned, the one that Peggy Flanagan is being endorsed by is an in is a much lesser influential and known National Farmers Union pack than this pack from the Minnesota Farm Bureau.
• 2:27:13
  SPEAKER_03: It reminds me, I just I was reminded of for you Monty Python fans out there and Monty Python The Life of Brian.
• 2:27:19
  SPEAKER_03: For some reason, the uh the story uh brought to mind the skit of the uh the Judean People's Front versus the People's Front of Judea from Life of Brian.
• 2:27:32
  SPEAKER_03: Different organizations.
• 2:27:35
  SPEAKER_03: One carries a little bit more significance than the uh than the others.
• 2:27:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let's go here to the blaster line.
• 2:27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, John.
• 2:27:42
  SPEAKER_00: This is Annie just calling in with a comment.
• 2:27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe somebody that's a lot smarter than me can explain how endorsements are really important to the average voter.
• 2:27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because unless you get an endorsement from um the father, the son, and the holy spirit, like I don't really care who you're endorsed by.
• 2:28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it doesn't influence my vote at all.
• 2:28:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just curious if it's about money, like why are endorsements so important?
• 2:28:09
  SPEAKER_03: So it may not matter, and I can understand that it may not matter to you, but these endorsements do matter.
• 2:28:15
  SPEAKER_03: And as a matter of fact, the endorsements that have been put forward by the um Minnesota Farmers Bureau uh in as much as their bipartisan endorsements mean they're actually going to carry, in my opinion, more weight for the GOP candidates than if they had gone and endorsed nothing but Republicans.
• 2:28:34
  SPEAKER_03: And let me get back to that and get back to the core of your question.
• 2:28:37
  SPEAKER_03: For individuals for the major and I'll actually I'll go so far as to say the majority of individuals, they're not thinking that deep on these issues.
• 2:28:46
  SPEAKER_03: Most people are not listening to shows like mine that are just casual observers of the news and politics, they have their own things going on in life.
• 2:28:59
  SPEAKER_03: They're not spending uh uh a ton of time on researching candidates, getting into the issues.
• 2:29:06
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter for them.
• 2:29:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's the majority of voters that are out there, which is what makes those on the left so susceptible to the anti-GOP narratives that they put forward constantly.
• 2:29:20
  SPEAKER_03: This idea, this recurring theme on the show of how it increasingly looks as if Democrat voters here in Minnesota want to vote for Democrats who govern like Republicans when you get to the issues.
• 2:29:34
  SPEAKER_03: These endorsements coming from these particular well-known packs and groups do carry, depending on who is doing the endorsing, do carry merit.
• 2:29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Because as people go and do begin to engage in politics during an election cycle, those casual observers lean a little bit further in, but they're still not doing a ton of research.
• 2:29:59
  SPEAKER_03: And so if they are involved in farming and they carry a level of respect for this particular group, it's gonna matter to them, especially if they're gonna be switching votes from a Democrat to a Republican.
• 2:30:12
  SPEAKER_03: Let me further sort of get into get into this with some commentary that I was already planning, but it fits in nicely with um with Annie's question.
• 2:30:21
  SPEAKER_03: Uh in races for the Minnesota legislature, right?
• 2:30:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the MFB state level campaign arm, the MFB PAC, so they have two different, you know, this is the state level PAC and then a national pack, um, issued endorsements for Republican candidates in the legislature.
• 2:30:36
  SPEAKER_03: DFL State Senator Grant Hoschild represents a large rural district in northern Minnesota, was endorsed by the MFB PAC.
• 2:30:42
  SPEAKER_03: Hoschild is facing what will likely be a close race for a Senate seat, which could determine the Senate majority in November.
• 2:30:49
  SPEAKER_03: Similarly, DFL State Senators Rob Kupek and Eric Puttman were also endorsed by the MFB PAC.
• 2:30:56
  SPEAKER_03: Kupek represents Moorhead and surrounding communities, while Puttman represents St.
• 2:31:00
  SPEAKER_03: Cloud.
• 2:31:00
  SPEAKER_03: Both are likely facing close races for their seats.
• 2:31:03
  SPEAKER_03: Alpha News contacted the Minnesota Farm Bureau to ask about the forthcoming endorsement in the Minnesota gubernatorial race between Chloe Bouchard and Republican State House Speaker Lisa Damot.
• 2:31:12
  SPEAKER_03: The spokesperson says they have no endorsement in the governor's race.
• 2:31:17
  SPEAKER_03: I say all this because the fact that the Farm Bureau was bipartisan in their endorsements, in my opinion, will help the GOP endorsed candidates more so, as I mentioned, than if they had gone and endorsed nothing but Republicans.
• 2:31:36
  SPEAKER_03: You would have had the ability of Democrats to go and dismiss the endorsements outright, saying, well, look, they went and endorsed nothing but Republicans.
• 2:31:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's ridiculous.
• 2:31:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to do that.
• 2:31:47
  SPEAKER_03: But the fact that they endorsed both DFLers and Republicans, in my view, carries a lot more weight for those Republican votes and provides the opportunity for people to be influenced to actually go and vote for Republicans on particular, in particular, with issues relating to um farming and agriculture here in Minnesota.
• 2:32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Endorsements carry weight.
• 2:32:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's why I do endorsements on my shows.
• 2:32:11
  SPEAKER_03: People respect these organizations and they respect the views and opinions of those organizations.
• 2:32:17
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go here to the blaster line.
• 2:32:20
  SPEAKER_20: The National Farmers Union PAC.
• 2:32:23
  SPEAKER_20: We can start calling Foopac.
• 2:32:26
  SPEAKER_20: Probably has three people on its board, and none of which are farmers.
• 2:32:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so he's referring to the uh the pack that gave Peggy the endorsement.
• 2:32:36
  SPEAKER_37: Hi, I'm Lieutenant Governor Peggy Planigan, and I'm here at the Minnesota Farmers Union with President Gary Burdish.
• 2:32:42
  SPEAKER_37: And uh, you've got some news to share.
• 2:32:45
  SPEAKER_41: We do National Farmers Union, our National Farmers Union Pat.
• 2:32:49
  SPEAKER_41: We endorse Peggy Flanan for the U.S.
• 2:32:52
  SPEAKER_41: Senate.
• 2:32:55
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, he clearly just misspoke.
• 2:33:00
  SPEAKER_04: But why don't you go and recut the video?
• 2:33:02
  SPEAKER_04: I don't understand.
• 2:33:03
  SPEAKER_04: Can you start stop for a second?
• 2:33:05
  SPEAKER_04: Can we do that?
• 2:33:05
  SPEAKER_04: Peggy Flanagan.
• 2:33:08
  SPEAKER_03: Is that Flanagan?
• 2:33:11
  SPEAKER_03: Not Flanagan.
• 2:33:13
  SPEAKER_03: Sounded like Chandler from Friends stumbling over his words.
• 2:33:17
  SPEAKER_03: 651-964-0294.
• 2:33:21
  SPEAKER_03: Big announcements yesterday.
• 2:33:22
  SPEAKER_03: Let's turn our attention to some national issues.
• 2:33:25
  SPEAKER_03: Still dealing with, though, our elections.
• 2:33:27
  SPEAKER_03: The Department of Homeland Security is launching a voter fraud investigation in nine separate states, focusing on potential non-citizen voting.
• 2:33:37
  SPEAKER_03: The initiative carried out by Homeland Security Investigations aims to pursue leads and support prosecutorial review.
• 2:33:46
  SPEAKER_03: Despite the administration efforts, few federal prosecutions have resulted from these investigations.
• 2:33:53
  SPEAKER_03: So, on top of this, an announcement was made yesterday, and I've got a bunch of audio to share with you.
• 2:33:57
  SPEAKER_03: The Trump administration is moving to Shut down a hundred and ten commercial trucking schools associated with more than 5,000 drivers who failed the English language proficiency tests.
• 2:34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Some of them are illegal immigrants, and this is all a federal crackdown on fraud in the trucking industry.
• 2:34:18
  SPEAKER_03: There's an overarching question that I have regarding both of these stories, but specifically the illegal immigrant truckers and fraud having taken place within these different um truck driving schools.
• 2:34:35
  SPEAKER_03: What areas of fraudulent activity have we not explored?
• 2:34:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like what areas of our society, of our federal government, of daily operations of the United States of America could be fraudulent right now that have not been investigated yet?
• 2:34:53
  SPEAKER_03: I almost feel like putting together a list.
• 2:34:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like maybe we should start working on a John Justice show presented by American Experiment list of different ways in which fraudsters could be stealing money from American taxpayers through different programs that we have not yet identified.
• 2:35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like we've got a new one every single week.
• 2:35:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I kind of sit back and I go, well, okay, we know we've got fraud in our in our trucking.
• 2:35:17
  SPEAKER_03: We found out about the fraud taking place within the nursing homes in California.
• 2:35:21
  SPEAKER_03: Have we been investigating that here in Minnesota yet?
• 2:35:23
  SPEAKER_03: So far, by the way, just to uh put a because I know you're probably asking the question, none of these um commercial trucking schools that are being shut down, none of them were located um or identified to be here in Minnesota, at least not yet.
• 2:35:39
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll dive into that story here in just a moment, but let me go back to what's happening with DH uh with DHS.
• 2:35:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh HSI offices in Washington State, Wisconsin, Missouri, Georgia, California, Pennsylvania, Nevada, New York, and Connecticut are expected to take investigative action from early September through mid-October.
• 2:35:58
  SPEAKER_03: This is according to guidance reviewed by uh CNN.
• 2:36:02
  SPEAKER_03: The guidance describes the effort as a coordinated criminal voter fraud surge initiative designed to pursue investigative leads, conduct field interviews, and support timely prosecutorial review.
• 2:36:15
  SPEAKER_03: The move expands the effort by Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen to make DHS a central force in Trump's push to identify and prosecute suspected election fraud.
• 2:36:25
  SPEAKER_03: DHS has also sought access to voter rolls for federal audits, and it's pressed uh pressed estates to cooperate with the broader election-related reforms.
• 2:36:35
  SPEAKER_03: The administration argues that stronger verification of voter eligibility is needed to protect election integrity and ensure that only eligible citizens participate in federal elections.
• 2:36:46
  SPEAKER_03: So let me share with you uh the first of a few clips that I uh that I have.
• 2:36:51
  SPEAKER_03: First, we have the DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen identifying the thousand-plus cases in which the state at DMV employees and companies are illegally putting truck drivers on the road.
• 2:37:02
  SPEAKER_03: And in some cases, there's no name even given.
• 2:37:04
  SPEAKER_03: We've reported this previously on the show.
• 2:37:07
  SPEAKER_03: I believe that Alpha News did some reporting several months back in the um last iteration of the show before arriving here at American Experiment.
• 2:37:15
  SPEAKER_03: So here's the first clip from a DHS secretary Mark Wayne Mullen on the issue.
• 2:37:25
  SPEAKER_02: A thousand pride cases.
• 2:37:28
  SPEAKER_02: A thousand between individuals that work for state DMVs to companies that are hiring these individuals illegally, putting them in the str or putting them on the streets, to front companies to where literally these truck drivers will get pulled over, go into a truck stop, take off the uh the DOT numbers off the side of their truck and the name, and simply put another one right over the top of it.
• 2:37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Why they're at a truck stop.
• 2:37:57
  SPEAKER_02: There's videos of it being shown all over the place, and they're immediately right back in the business.
• 2:38:04
  SPEAKER_02: FMCSA or DOT would take them out of service and they would just simply change their name and keep going because why couldn't they?
• 2:38:10
  SPEAKER_02: Their driver's license just say no name given.
• 2:38:13
  SPEAKER_02: So no one even knows who they are.
• 2:38:15
  SPEAKER_02: It was running the trucking industry.
• 2:38:18
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was it was driving down the efficiency of these drivers, running an industry that's been around that the United States depends on to move goods from point A to point B.
• 2:38:29
  SPEAKER_02: And they're not gonna be able to do it.
• 2:38:30
  SPEAKER_03: In this article that I pulled from CNN for this story, the author goes a pro-publica, which is a radical leftist organization, a pro-publica analysis of the Justice Department's data found that fewer than 150 alleged non-citizen voters were referred to for prosecution between January of 25 and May of 26, while 41 people were charged with illegally voting or other election-related crimes.
• 2:38:57
  SPEAKER_03: I am getting so sick and tired, or I am sick and tired.
• 2:39:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm over this whole argument of, you know, since only a few people did a bad thing, it's less of a bad thing.
• 2:39:11
  SPEAKER_03: I just, I'm I'm so over it.
• 2:39:12
  SPEAKER_03: And as a matter of fact, um, Secretary of DHS Mark Wayne Mullen was over it yesterday.
• 2:39:17
  SPEAKER_03: He got fired up at a fake news reporter talking about what I just mentioned the fact that 1%, only 1% of CDL drivers are illegal, so why should we care?
• 2:39:27
  SPEAKER_03: Here was that exchange.
• 2:39:29
  SPEAKER_02: John, let me talk about that 1%.
• 2:39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Are you saying 1%'s okay?
• 2:39:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because that 1% is what caused this right here.
• 2:39:35
  SPEAKER_02: 1% is one too many.
• 2:39:37
  SPEAKER_02: I said this in my remarks.
• 2:39:39
  SPEAKER_02: Every single illegal that maims or kills an individual is 100% preventable.
• 2:39:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to prevent every one of them.
• 2:39:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care if it's a fraction of 1%.
• 2:39:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm coming after you.
• 2:39:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm removing you from the road because it should never take place.
• 2:39:59
  SPEAKER_02: Every death at the hands of an illegal is one too many.
• 2:40:04
  SPEAKER_02: So you make the percentage about 1%.
• 2:40:07
  SPEAKER_02: Are you willing to take that 1% if it was your daughter?
• 2:40:10
  SPEAKER_02: Then 1%'s plenty, John.
• 2:40:13
  SPEAKER_02: 1% is plenty.
• 2:40:14
  SPEAKER_02: A fraction of 1% is plenty.
• 2:40:17
  SPEAKER_02: 0.1% of 1% is one is 0.1% too many.
• 2:40:22
  SPEAKER_02: They should never be out there because the accident should never take place.
• 2:40:26
  SPEAKER_02: I look at this as I'm trying to keep my six kids safe on the road when they're out there driving and my one grandchild while they're riding with their parents.
• 2:40:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's all preventable and they shouldn't be on our roadway.
• 2:40:40
  SPEAKER_02: Full stop.
• 2:40:41
  SPEAKER_03: Here's another example of that.
• 2:40:43
  SPEAKER_03: The administration highlighted arrests resulting from the investigations.
• 2:40:47
  SPEAKER_03: The way the CNN worded this, though, the administration has nevertheless highlighted areas resulting from the investigations.
• 2:40:56
  SPEAKER_03: Again, that's stemming from that ridiculous pro publica.
• 2:40:58
  SPEAKER_03: Only 150 people.
• 2:41:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, gosh, hardly a big deal.
• 2:41:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's 150 people we know about.
• 2:41:06
  SPEAKER_03: On August 28th, the Justice Department announced the arrest of Darwin Jonathan Rivera Flores, a 30-year-old Honduran, lawful permanent resident living in California on federal criminal complaint, charging him with falsely claiming to be a U.S.
• 2:41:21
  SPEAKER_03: citizen and fraudulently registered to vote.
• 2:41:24
  SPEAKER_03: According to the Justice Department, Rivera allegedly registered to vote in California in 2025, indicated on the registration application that he was a U.S.
• 2:41:32
  SPEAKER_03: citizen.
• 2:41:32
  SPEAKER_03: Federal investigators also allege the voter registration records listed his birthplace as uh the U.S., even though he was born in Honduras, on in uh in Honduras.
• 2:41:44
  SPEAKER_03: But again, these are just the individuals that we know about.
• 2:41:47
  SPEAKER_03: But this is the cover that the left-wing media gives to Democrats constantly on these all-important issues.
• 2:41:54
  SPEAKER_03: Now, with that press conference yesterday was the subsequent press conference that took place regarding the Trump administration shutting down 110 commercial trucking schools associated with more than 5,000 drivers who failed English language proficiency tests.
• 2:42:08
  SPEAKER_03: So yesterday you had the U.S.
• 2:42:12
  SPEAKER_03: Department of Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy, um, laying out exactly what uh the Trump administration was doing regarding these fraudulent trucking schools.
• 2:42:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, here is a portion of that announcement.
• 2:42:27
  SPEAKER_44: And so today uh what we are announcing uh is uh an emergency executive shutdown of 110 driving schools.
• 2:42:38
  SPEAKER_44: So these are driving schools uh that um account for 5,000 of the violations for English proficiency.
• 2:42:48
  SPEAKER_44: Um what I mean by that is uh you have to speak English uh to operate a commercial motor vehicle.
• 2:42:54
  SPEAKER_44: I didn't create that rule.
• 2:42:55
  SPEAKER_44: President Trump didn't create that rule.
• 2:42:56
  SPEAKER_44: That rule has been in place for decades.
• 2:43:00
  SPEAKER_44: And um we have schools that know the rule and still pass people through their school who can't speak the language.
• 2:43:08
  SPEAKER_44: And so there's 110 of them through a data analysis that are the greatest offenders.
• 2:43:12
  SPEAKER_44: As of today, those schools are shut down.
• 2:43:16
  SPEAKER_44: We also have shut down 160 additional schools.
• 2:43:20
  SPEAKER_44: These are schools uh that uh, in essence, certify that they are qualified to train truck drivers.
• 2:43:27
  SPEAKER_44: However, they don't have adequate space to put a uh a potential driver in a truck and have them uh go around the cones and do the turns, and they they don't have space to even allow the truck driver to actually get behind the wheel and drive.
• 2:43:44
  SPEAKER_44: They um have unlicensed instructors.
• 2:43:47
  SPEAKER_44: So you have instructors who aren't certified who are allegedly training the new truck drivers uh to operate on American roadways.
• 2:43:56
  SPEAKER_44: And they uh oftentimes didn't have classrooms.
• 2:43:59
  SPEAKER_44: One uh school that we're shutting down was so flippant as they told us their classroom was the school bus that was in the backyard.
• 2:44:06
  SPEAKER_44: That was the classroom for which they were training uh new truck drivers.
• 2:44:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let me pause his comments here.
• 2:44:12
  SPEAKER_03: There's more I have more from the Transportation Secretary uh Duffy.
• 2:44:16
  SPEAKER_03: I do want to get to some of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning at 651-964-02904, and an individual who uh is very interested in this particular story and the Trump administration's war on illegal immigrant uh truckers.
• 2:44:33
  SPEAKER_21: Hey, John Al, the trucker here pushing my hot buttons on my home time in Colorado.
• 2:44:38
  SPEAKER_21: Say states that pass out non-domicile licenses in the name of fairness.
• 2:44:43
  SPEAKER_21: Uh they don't even check for confidence.
• 2:44:45
  SPEAKER_21: And the chameleon carriers hire these disposable, incompetent drivers and then use legal loopholes to avoid accountability.
• 2:44:53
  SPEAKER_21: Anything that the feds can do to close those CDL mills and take those people off the road and put those carriers out of business permanently, I will support.
• 2:45:02
  SPEAKER_21: I don't even consider supporting the federalizing of commercial driver's licenses just to keep that decision out of the hands of the state.
• 2:45:09
  SPEAKER_21: And you got no idea how hard that would be for me, but I'd be willing to do it because at the end of the day, everybody should go home.
• 2:45:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, fantastic points, uh Al.
• 2:45:19
  SPEAKER_03: And thank you so much for the comments.
• 2:45:22
  SPEAKER_03: In the midst of covering this, I'm reminded of all of those um those airline failure stories that we were having.
• 2:45:32
  SPEAKER_03: The different uh airline issues from the airliners themselves down to the ground crews, all the talk about DEI that was going on, the lowering of the requirements to go and do these all-important jobs, especially in the transportation you know, sector.
• 2:45:50
  SPEAKER_03: Again, you can't help but wonder what other areas have been subject to fraudulent activity, especially regarding illegal aliens in this country that's been allowed by the left because they seek to exploit potential votes in the future from this massive increase in illegal aliens in the country.
• 2:46:13
  SPEAKER_03: So the story I probably won't have a chance to dive into today, just looking at the at the clock, at the clock.
• 2:46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Claire Luger, candidate for Forest Lake Area School Board.
• 2:46:21
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna stick with the trucker story.
• 2:46:23
  SPEAKER_03: Don't don't worry.
• 2:46:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I still have audio to share with you, but I just want to spike this this commentary in as we are in the middle of the last segment of the show.
• 2:46:30
  SPEAKER_03: So this Claire Luger, she's a candidate for Forest Lake Area School Board, also the lead singer of a punk band, The Silent Treatment.
• 2:46:38
  SPEAKER_03: I've wrapped up my prep a little bit early, so I went online and checked out some other stuff.
• 2:46:42
  SPEAKER_03: They're okay.
• 2:46:44
  SPEAKER_03: You know, for a bunch of middle-to-aged dudes, the band was pretty tight.
• 2:46:48
  SPEAKER_03: She was decent as a punk rock singer.
• 2:46:51
  SPEAKER_03: She clearly fancies herself as a aging rocker.
• 2:46:55
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 2:46:55
  SPEAKER_03: Her band's politically charged in music and activism, including support for progressive causes and opposition to fascism, offers voters insight into her political stance.
• 2:47:03
  SPEAKER_03: Luger, who has a background in special ed and local politics, emphasizes the importance of inclusivity and collaboration on the school board.
• 2:47:11
  SPEAKER_03: Give me a break, and we'll get into the full details of the story on tomorrow's show.
• 2:47:14
  SPEAKER_03: This is the part that I wanted to mention, though.
• 2:47:17
  SPEAKER_03: So at a with a flyer promoting this band called the Silent Treatment's appearance at a No Kings rally.
• 2:47:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, she also at the time ended up talking uh on another show saying that the organizers hoped to fight back against the onslaught of fascism and authoritarian uh authoritarianism and things like that.
• 2:47:36
  SPEAKER_03: This is all a part of the protest they were involved in at No Kings.
• 2:47:40
  SPEAKER_03: If you've ever listened to a word of our music, there's no question where we stand on the nightmare that continues to unfold in our community.
• 2:47:47
  SPEAKER_03: Her band wrote on Facebook earlier this year.
• 2:47:50
  SPEAKER_03: You cannot be a decent human and support the occupation of Minnesota, murders, uh murders of Minnesotans, kidnapping of Minnesotans, and abuse of Minnesotans simply for existing and exercising their constitutional rights.
• 2:48:06
  SPEAKER_03: Lunatic statements, ignorance statements from a radical leftist.
• 2:48:09
  SPEAKER_03: This is the point I wanted to make, though.
• 2:48:11
  SPEAKER_03: This whole occupation of Minnesota, Minnesota wasn't occupied.
• 2:48:16
  SPEAKER_03: If there was an occupation of Minnesota and Minneapolis, it was an occupation of illegal aliens, not of federal law enforcement officials.
• 2:48:25
  SPEAKER_03: The ICE officials here in Minneapolis, here in Minnesota, they're legal U.S.
• 2:48:30
  SPEAKER_03: citizens.
• 2:48:31
  SPEAKER_03: Enforcing United States law.
• 2:48:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's not an occupation.
• 2:48:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's not an occupation when those same ICE agents could barely get a restful night's sleep at any number of hotels that they paid to stay at because of the real fascists outside banging and beating on drums and yelling at all hours of the night.
• 2:48:55
  SPEAKER_03: Not a very good occupation when the individuals that are occupying an area are not even able to get a restful night's sleep because of lunatics like this particular school board candidate.
• 2:49:07
  SPEAKER_03: No, the occupation was of illegal aliens.
• 2:49:10
  SPEAKER_03: It was an occupation of the country that Joe Biden allowed to happen, and we continue to see the fallout from that in stories like this, which is why I thank the good Lord Almighty that President Donald Trump is in office and he's doing everything he can while he's in his second term to go and deal with these particular issues.
• 2:49:28
  SPEAKER_03: Here's more of what the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy had to say during the announcement yesterday on these illegal immigrant uh truck driving schools.
• 2:49:37
  SPEAKER_44: So you have fraud throughout the school system.
• 2:49:40
  SPEAKER_44: Now, just as uh comparison, my I I've got a lot of kids, and so I have taken through all my kids through the license process at 16 years old.
• 2:49:49
  SPEAKER_44: They go to uh a driving school, uh and they uh will take their uh they'll go through the written work, but they also go through the skills work with the driving instructor.
• 2:50:00
  SPEAKER_44: That's the schools that were finding fraud that are training uh the commercial truck driver.
• 2:50:06
  SPEAKER_44: But then it goes when my daughters go get their driver's license, they have to go to the DMV.
• 2:50:11
  SPEAKER_44: And uh a DMV um tester gets in the vehicle with them and they do a road test.
• 2:50:18
  SPEAKER_44: Well, for commercial drivers, uh oftentimes the states will certify testers that will do it on the state's behalf.
• 2:50:26
  SPEAKER_44: What we found through our data analysis uh is that many of the certified state testers actually aren't adequately testing the potential drivers that they're gonna license.
• 2:50:41
  SPEAKER_44: In one state, uh there's ten skills testers, and they work for the state.
• 2:50:46
  SPEAKER_44: If they get through the skills test, they're gonna get a license.
• 2:50:48
  SPEAKER_44: We have ten skill testers who uh have given over two thousand uh driver's licenses to people who can't speak English.
• 2:50:57
  SPEAKER_44: This is the simplest of tests.
• 2:50:59
  SPEAKER_44: Uh if you talk to anybody, if you give a written test, which there these testers have to do, um, you know if they speak and read English.
• 2:51:09
  SPEAKER_44: And over 2,000 could not speak or read English, and they still were able to get a state license.
• 2:51:17
  SPEAKER_44: So uh we are cracking down on this fraud, and we are going to uh bring safety back to American roadways.
• 2:51:26
  SPEAKER_16: What I don't understand about this driving school stuff, I mean it isn't like they snuck it in here.
• 2:51:33
  SPEAKER_16: It's been going on for years.
• 2:51:36
  SPEAKER_16: None of our legislators noticed it.
• 2:51:39
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody knows here real quick.
• 2:51:41
  SPEAKER_03: We have not seen any identification of these illegal immigrant um truck driving schools or truck driving schools that are employing illegal immigrants and aren't passing the basic standards to drive a truck here in Minnesota.
• 2:51:57
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to clear that up.
• 2:51:58
  SPEAKER_03: So uh when you're talking about legislators or other people not noticing, that would be other states, not ours.
• 2:52:07
  SPEAKER_16: The cops they don't say anything when they pull them over early on.
• 2:52:12
  SPEAKER_16: Hey hey, these guys can't even talk English.
• 2:52:14
  SPEAKER_16: You know, I mean blind eye, like, oh, I don't know what's going on.
• 2:52:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's gonna be a bunch of uh friend of the show, uh lawyer James Dickey wants to weigh in on this.
• 2:52:27
  SPEAKER_03: Hey John, this is James Dickey.
• 2:52:29
  SPEAKER_29: My thought on this argument from ProPublica about the fraud and it uh being only a few cases is that the government's inefficiency in detecting and stopping fraud, whether it's in voting or in Medicaid or in trucking driver's licenses.
• 2:52:45
  SPEAKER_29: It's not a legitimate argument that it isn't a problem.
• 2:52:48
  SPEAKER_29: It's like arguing that you shouldn't investigate murder because police sometimes have in cold cases.
• 2:52:54
  SPEAKER_29: It doesn't make any sense.
• 2:52:56
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for that, uh, James.
• 2:52:58
  SPEAKER_03: Always appreciate your uh your comments again.
• 2:53:00
  SPEAKER_03: 651-964-0294.
• 2:53:05
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go here.
• 2:53:06
  SPEAKER_28: Good morning.
• 2:53:07
  SPEAKER_28: Uh it's funny to think about punk rock because punk rock was always anti-establishment.
• 2:53:11
  SPEAKER_28: So, you know, maybe you'd get uh, you know, anti-Republican punk song back in the 80s, but you'd also get uh things like the Dead Kennedy's holiday in Cambodia, which was an anti-communist screen that was pretty uh intense.
• 2:53:26
  SPEAKER_28: Uh I don't think it works the same way anymore.
• 2:53:29
  SPEAKER_03: No, I just think that that, and we'll talk about her uh tomorrow.
• 2:53:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the story that I mentioned, the Forest Lake school board candidate moodlining as a punk rocker.
• 2:53:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, just stick to your punk rock.
• 2:53:38
  SPEAKER_03: Just stick to making music.
• 2:53:40
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe don't be involved at the uh school board level.
• 2:53:43
  SPEAKER_03: All right, I had more audio from the press conference yesterday.
• 2:53:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um here you have uh Sean Duffy and Transportation Secretary uh providing more details of the individuals that have been uh targeted through these illegal immigrant truck driving schools.
• 2:53:58
  SPEAKER_44: We also have shut down 160 additional schools.
• 2:54:02
  SPEAKER_44: These are schools uh that uh in essence certify that they are qualified to train truck drivers.
• 2:54:10
  SPEAKER_44: However, they don't have adequate space to put a uh a potential driver in a truck and have them uh go around the cones and do the turns, and they don't have space to even allow the truck driver to actually get behind the wheel and drive.
• 2:54:26
  SPEAKER_44: They um have unlicensed instructors.
• 2:54:29
  SPEAKER_44: So you have instructors who aren't certified who are allegedly training the new truck drivers uh to operate on American roadways.
• 2:54:38
  SPEAKER_44: And they uh oftentimes didn't have classrooms.
• 2:54:41
  SPEAKER_44: One uh school they were shutting down was so flippant as they told us their classroom was the school bus that was in the backyard.
• 2:54:48
  SPEAKER_44: That was the classroom for which they were training uh new truck drivers.
• 2:54:53
  SPEAKER_03: Had some uh text that came into the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
• 2:54:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh an illegal alien CDL thing may be a non-issue very soon.
• 2:55:03
  SPEAKER_03: Tesla semis are coming, and then nobody will have a truck driving job.
• 2:55:07
  SPEAKER_03: Remember that.
• 2:55:08
  SPEAKER_03: Also, to the point that only a small percentage of individuals are involved in this, uh, Hans writes in only a small percentage of assault rifle owners commit crimes.
• 2:55:18
  SPEAKER_03: So there for everyone uh should have one.
• 2:55:21
  SPEAKER_03: They should not be banned.
• 2:55:23
  SPEAKER_03: Same logic there.
• 2:55:23
  SPEAKER_03: No, he's absolutely right.
• 2:55:25
  SPEAKER_03: Here's um further examples from that press conference yesterday.
• 2:55:28
  SPEAKER_03: Another Trump official uh laying out what it is that they uncovered in their investigation.
• 2:55:33
  SPEAKER_33: When you see people die on the road, you don't forget that.
• 2:55:37
  SPEAKER_33: And it starts right here with what I'm talking about.
• 2:55:40
  SPEAKER_33: Proposed removal of another 160, which is 40 percent.
• 2:55:43
  SPEAKER_33: Our investigators went into 400 driver training schools, and we found that 40% of these investigators that we investigated uh did not meet the rules and the requirements of our regulations.
• 2:55:55
  SPEAKER_33: And a couple of those examples again in California, operators claimed their classroom was.
• 2:56:00
  SPEAKER_33: The back end of an open semi-trailer.
• 2:56:02
  SPEAKER_33: The primary instructor was out of the country.
• 2:56:05
  SPEAKER_33: I should tell you something.
• 2:56:06
  SPEAKER_33: The people conducting the training didn't possess CDLs, and students were driving commercial vehicles unmonitored.
• 2:56:13
  SPEAKER_33: At Angels Transportation in New Jersey, the provider trained was they were passing off small, they were in a small parking lot before they could they couldn't even do the maneuvers because the parking lot was too small.
• 2:56:27
  SPEAKER_33: When schools certify underqualified drivers, these drivers get behind the wheel of an 80,000-pound truck that we've mentioned and they kill people.
• 2:56:40
  SPEAKER_33: And they've they are responsible for hundreds of deaths.
• 2:56:45
  SPEAKER_03: The Department of Transportation has placed more than 28,000 drivers out of service for English proficiency violations in the last year and a half.
• 2:56:56
  SPEAKER_03: During that time, the department has also forced states to cancel more than 30,000 licenses for foreign drivers.
• 2:57:04
  SPEAKER_03: Authorities have caught many of the non-English speaking drivers passing through the Midwest, carrying CDLs largely used in California, New York, and Illinois and uh Illinois.
• 2:57:14
  SPEAKER_03: Duffy went on to say we're cracking down on this fraud and we're going to bring safety back to American roadways.
• 2:57:20
  SPEAKER_03: We're not done.
• 2:57:21
  SPEAKER_03: We've just begun.
• 2:57:22
  SPEAKER_03: J.D.
• 2:57:23
  SPEAKER_03: Vance yesterday torched the Biden regime over this uh issue uh during a um it wasn't a campaign stop.
• 2:57:31
  SPEAKER_03: He was speaking to a group of individuals.
• 2:57:33
  SPEAKER_03: Here's what the vice president had to say.
• 2:57:34
  SPEAKER_45: Now we're here today for a very, very important announcement, and you all heard some of it early.
• 2:57:41
  SPEAKER_45: For too long, under the last administration, the Biden administration allowed American workers and American drivers to be endangered and to have their jobs stolen by foreign fraudsters.
• 2:57:54
  SPEAKER_45: Today is about restoring the basic principle that if you want to drive a big truck on America's roads, you ought to be able to speak English, you ought to be a legal resident of the United States of America, and you ought to have basic qualifications because trucking is too important to let it go to foreign fraudsters.
• 2:58:16
  SPEAKER_45: It belongs to Michiganders right here in this state.
• 2:58:20
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, speaking to a group of individuals in uh Michigan uh yesterday.
• 2:58:25
  SPEAKER_03: So before we close the show out, here's a couple of items that um I had slated for the opening segment of the show, but just didn't get a chance to talk about them.
• 2:58:35
  SPEAKER_03: Typically, when we open up uh the show giving a preview of what's to come, uh every single morning, Monday through Friday, 6 until 9 a.m.
• 2:58:42
  SPEAKER_03: live here, presented by American Experiment.
• 2:58:45
  SPEAKER_03: I like to get into some of the national news in the first opening segments of the show.
• 2:58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and I keep uh updates on what's been going on with uh the conflict in Iran.
• 2:58:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh late Sunday, the United States carried out uh strikes on Iranian on the Iranian island in the Strait of Ormuz.
• 2:59:00
  SPEAKER_03: Trump saying he's gonna hit them hard when Iran retaliated.
• 2:59:04
  SPEAKER_03: The United States says it attacked uh Iranian rocket launchers on the island of Alaric to prevent Tehran from planting mines in the key shipping lane.
• 2:59:14
  SPEAKER_03: On Monday, yesterday, Trump declared Iran officially a failed nation, saying the Islamic Republic is being propped up only by fake news from the U.S.
• 2:59:23
  SPEAKER_03: media and its military economy and leadership have been crumbling.
• 2:59:27
  SPEAKER_03: Iran is dead, Trump wrote on True Social, pointing what he described to the destruction of Tehran's naval and air forces.
• 2:59:34
  SPEAKER_03: They have no navy, they have no air force, they have no currency, they're not paying their soldiers or police.
• 2:59:38
  SPEAKER_03: Inflation is at 300%, and their leadership is in total disarray and incapable of properly representing um the country.
• 2:59:46
  SPEAKER_03: Trump also accused Tehran of killing more than 100,000 protesters and called for Iranian leaders to face prosecution for war crimes against humanity.
• 2:59:53
  SPEAKER_03: Now, the president's remarks do come amid the renewed military tensions between Tehran uh and uh and Washington.
• 3:00:00
  SPEAKER_03: And we know that while uh Iran's military's been depleted in the way that Trump described, it doesn't mean that those pockets of resistance and armed forces, especially with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, don't still exist.
• 3:00:12
  SPEAKER_03: Of course they do, and we've talked about this at length on the show.
• 3:00:14
  SPEAKER_03: The difficulty with a country the size of Iran that's basically for decades um has been focused solely on waging war.
• 3:00:23
  SPEAKER_03: So the comment that I wanted to make about this is, and speaking of decades, based off of the because I've struggled, let me just say, I've struggled with this.
• 3:00:31
  SPEAKER_03: I've struggled with what's happening with Iran.
• 3:00:33
  SPEAKER_03: I completely support the efforts of what Trump is trying to accomplish in Iran.
• 3:00:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I believe that we absolutely need to follow all of what has taken place through.
• 3:00:42
  SPEAKER_03: I have no problems with us launching the attack that we did with Operation Epic Fury.
• 3:00:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think I feel like a lot of people feel that we wish that this had been over a lot sooner, that the Iranian people have been given the opportunity to take their country back, but clearly they haven't yet.
• 3:00:59
  SPEAKER_03: So we have to go and finish the job.
• 3:01:01
  SPEAKER_03: But I've been, you know, struggling with the impact of the November elections, the cost on energy prices.
• 3:01:06
  SPEAKER_03: This is where I'm landed currently on the issue.
• 3:01:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because based on the decades of attempts by Democrat and some GOP administrations, those individuals occupying the White House, the decades of their attempts and actually appeasing Iran, trying to appease Iran, you know, I really have plenty of patience for what Trump is doing.
• 3:01:31
  SPEAKER_03: For Trump's attempt to end the Iranian threat for us and our allies overseas.
• 3:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: Again, you have decades upon decades of billions of dollars being sent over, attempts to appease Iran.
• 3:01:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I I kinda I kind of landed on this thought.
• 3:01:50
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't kind of I did.
• 3:01:51
  SPEAKER_03: I landed on this thought going, you know what?
• 3:01:53
  SPEAKER_03: We can be a little patient on this.
• 3:01:55
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, Iran's not going to agree to these terms.
• 3:01:58
  SPEAKER_03: Of course they're gonna play games like they have been when it comes to these potential ceasefires.
• 3:02:03
  SPEAKER_03: War is never easy, it's always fluid.
• 3:02:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I trust?
• 3:02:06
  SPEAKER_03: I trust the individuals who are tasked with and charged with finishing this job, whether it's Donald Trump being the commander-in-chief, or whether it is a secretary of war in front of the show Pete Heggseth.
• 3:02:17
  SPEAKER_03: And again, putting the proper perspective on just the decades' worth of appeasing Iran and Iran taking advantage of the United States, time and time again, accepting our billions of tax dollars that have flown into that country, that have helped with their nuclear program and the fact that they would they they continue to chant death to the West.
• 3:02:40
  SPEAKER_03: No, I I can be a little patient, and I hope the rest of the of the country can be a little patient as well with what's been happening.
• 3:02:47
  SPEAKER_03: All right, last item, and then we'll go out on this.
• 3:02:49
  SPEAKER_03: This has made me laugh.
• 3:02:50
  SPEAKER_03: So yesterday, uh Treasury Secretary Scott Besent was talking with CNBC's squawk of the street.
• 3:02:57
  SPEAKER_03: They were discussing what's been going on with uh Canada, the renaming of uh Lake Ontario to Lake Uh America.
• 3:03:04
  SPEAKER_03: However, um at one point, uh the Treasury Secretary Besent ended up mocking Canadians' military.
• 3:03:11
  SPEAKER_03: He was responding to a question regarding the U.S.'s 50% tariff on Canadian goods and questioning their ability to retaliate.
• 3:03:18
  SPEAKER_03: This is what the Treasure uh Treasury Secretary Scott Besent had to say.
• 3:03:22
  SPEAKER_03: This made me laugh.
• 3:03:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think this is very unfortunate that Prime Minister Kearney has turned this into the uh a political shouting match.
• 3:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're not at war with Canada.
• 3:03:32
  SPEAKER_01: How are we gonna be at war with Canada?
• 3:03:33
  SPEAKER_01: What are they gonna take their two submarines from the Edmonton Mall and stick them on us?
• 3:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: That you know, he he came to power on an anti-American, anti-Trump agenda.
• 3:03:45
  SPEAKER_01: He was 20 points behind in the poll, and then he started this, and it's unfortunate that he's not doing what's best for the Canadian people.
• 3:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: He's doing best what is best for the Liberal Party, what's best for Mark Carney, and in the long run, the the Canadian people are gonna see through that.
• 3:03:59
  SPEAKER_03: That just made me laugh when he said, What are they gonna do?
• 3:04:02
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna take their two submarines that apparently are on display somewhere and sick them on the United States.
• 3:04:08
  SPEAKER_03: He's a really tall dude, by the way.
• 3:04:10
  SPEAKER_03: When I went down to the state capitol when Laura Ingram came to town uh in the middle of Operation Metro Surge and was doing the live uh broadcaster for Fox show, uh, and I, you know, was blessed enough to have another appearance.
• 3:04:23
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't even realize that I'm standing there and I'm watching Laura do her broadcast, and Scott Bissent's standing right next to me.
• 3:04:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, who he had a lot of people around him.
• 3:04:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, who is this guy?
• 3:04:31
  SPEAKER_03: And why is everybody staring at me?
• 3:04:32
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, uh, it's a treasury secretary.
• 3:04:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not a short dude, he's a tall guy.
• 3:04:37
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• 3:04:41
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• 3:05:12
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• 3:05:14
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• 3:05:17
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• 3:05:20
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• 3:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: God bless.
• 3:05:23
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• 3:05:24
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