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The Kenny For Real 2025 All Stars · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of Small Ball with Kenny Beacham.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to have y'all in.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: I want to do a little bit of promotion to start off this show.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, one of the reasons we left our last company is because I wanted to have full own ownership of every piece of property that I put out.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to start a network.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to have it so that the homies could have their own shows or like their smaller podcasts or YouTube channels that we can bring onto the network and help fund them and do some great things.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: I want to let you know, we just launched a new show called Teed Up with Pierre Pierre Andreessen, which is my cousin.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: He's my co-host on the other podcast, numbers on the board.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: He just dropped an episode with Gordon Hayward as his first guest.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: I listened to it on the way to the studio here.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely great interview.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Gordon Hayward.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, sometimes you get a player and you don't really know how much they're gonna give you in an interview.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Gordon Hayward was as candid as possible.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and he went through so many ups and downs of his career that it was a great, great listen and a great, great watch.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you can find that on YouTube, find that on Spotify, wherever you get your podcast.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Pierre for somebody with not a ton of interviewing experience.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's great at it.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: And just imagine what the show can be like when he continues to get more reps and reps and reps.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like we had a conversation not too long ago, me and the rest of the guys, candidly, about like, what do you think you're great at in this profession and one thing you think that you struggle with and want to get better at?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I gave Pierre a lot of flowers and like his charisma when it comes to meeting new people and meeting guests and interviewing guests.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why it made so much sense for him to have a show where he can bring people in because you know, like, okay, it's not the same level.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: But do you remember when Jalen Brown told Taylor Rooks that he wanted five championships before he was 30 or whatever the hell the thing was?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's a couple different factors to make him say that.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: But the comfortability that he felt in that moment because he had a good interviewer there.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like Pierre does that.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I can I envy that.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm trying to get better at it, but if you want to see somebody that's top tier, Pierre is the guy.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: So go check out Teed Up.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: I also want to say right off top, I mentioned that we have a live show on San Francisco for All-Star Weekend.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Sold out.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't even take a week.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Bigger venue than when we were at All-Star, completely, completely sold out.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Two guests, as far as I know, um signed on.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you who it is just yet.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: But if you got your tickets, just know we appreciate you because people wouldn't uh book out these venues or even think about us having a live show if y'all weren't gonna show up.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I appreciate you as always.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: I try to let y'all know that as much as possible.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: On today's episode, I want to get back into a bag that I used to get to every single season.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, last week we found out who the all-star starters was.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: There was no real surprises, even though Twitter had a problem with a couple different things.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was kind of cool with it.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: And we found out who the All-Star Reserves are.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to everybody that made it.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Spoiler, I'm recording this before that even happened.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: So a shout out to everybody that made it.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: I used to do this thing called the Kenny Ferrilla All-Stars.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: And what that was back in the day, if you didn't know, I have a channel named Kenny Furrill that also is basketball-oriented, where I just pick some of my favorite non-star players in the league and give them some flowers.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: Simple as that.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when you talk about all-stars, you usually have this criteria.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's like being a superstar is usually one, being amazing at basketball, being on a winning team, being a one or two option on a winning team.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of different factors there, but there's a lot of numbers and analytics that go into all of that.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: The Kenny for All-Stars is kind of just vibes.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: And in a in a world where analytics is killing the game, no, I'm just I'm talking.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: In a world where analytics is seems like to be keen more and more every single day, I feel like we kind of need a strictly off the vibes type of thing.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: One thing that I did to make this even more difficult this year than previous years, no duplicate players.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: So if I had you as a Kenny for All-Star two years ago, I'm sorry you don't make the cut.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: For reference, two years ago, our captains or our backcourt was Alex Caruso and Derek White.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Both of those guys still doing great things.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: I wish Alex Caruso didn't turn his ankle every time he touched the basketball court nowadays, but those are the type of players we're talking about.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of the cases, the Kenny for All-Stars are the guys that I feel like are contributing to basketball wins that don't get the last shot at the end of the game.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: These are the guys that's just chasing the primary ball handler over screens.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: These are the guys playing great drop coverage, and so on and so forth.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I just absolutely love this, and I'll give you my ballot, East and West, and I'll give you the reasons why.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: Starting off with the Eastern Conference, my number one guard when it comes to Kenny for All-Stars is Andrew Nemar, a name that we mentioned maybe a month ago when we talked about the Indiana Pacers continuing to get better and better and better.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: They were on a nice low streak.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I told you how insane, this is not the reason why he's here, how insane his advanced analytics were.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: And though his advanced analytics and the eye test don't match up perfectly because the analytics say he is as impactful as a defender as Jokic as an offensive player, not kidding.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when you watch the Indiana Pacers, you really see the defensive impact that Andrew Nim Hard as the point of attack defender.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of stuff that he was doing was um like before Aaron East Smith came back from his injury.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: And now that they're both in the lineup and both of them playing together, even though they got a win the other day without Nim Hard in there.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: You can see his impact completely.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I think he's tasked to do a lot of different things on the Indiana Pacers defensively, where it is being at the point of attack, go fighting over, going under.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's just a brilliant basketball player.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: And there are a few guys on this list, and um, one of them also is a backup here on my online that I feel like there are a couple of different archetypes of player in basketball.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's a um a type of dude that can hold his own in space.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't matter who the player is.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, every defensive player gets scored on.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: Think about what Jimmy Butler did to Drew Holiday a couple years ago in the playoffs.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: But some of these dudes do an amazing job at holding their own in space, which makes them a phenomenal defender.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: There are other players that become phenomenal defenders who are not holding their own in space, but instead being a deflection artist or being a pickball artist and so on and so forth.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have the rare cases where they're both of those things.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: You have the Dortz of the world, you have the Dyson Daniels of the world, you have the Herb Joneses of the world.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Nim Hard is starting to turn into that.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't know if he'll ever get some all defensive nods, but he is one of the most important defensive players on the Indiana Pacers, and I love watching him play every single night he suits up.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: My second guard is gonna be the sixth-man of the year winner now that DeAndre Hunter is going through some stuff, and it's unfortunate for the the Atlanta Hawks because uh Jalen Johnson being out for the season changes the dynamic of their draft pick.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: It changed the dynamic for the season.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I want to give a lot of love to Peyton Pritchard.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I think what makes him, again, this is strictly all vibes, what makes it so cool to see Peyton Pritchard do this is because he he did it in an untraditional way, right?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: He's a guy that two to three years ago, he would get garbage time minutes.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we had this conversation a lot on numbers on the board where when we were growing up, not saying that I was a bench warm or anything, um uh, you would hear the things like you earn your minutes in those in the game things.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, when I was a sophomore in high school, I was 100% the 11th man on the roster.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's just the reality of it, right?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: So when I did get into play, it was pretty often a fourth quarter.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was pretty often my team was down by 20 or up by 20 when uh Kenny Beatum takes his warm off off uh off for the first time.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: And coaches always say, this is where you earn your minutes.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that's cap, right?
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: I guess it depends on your situation, but Peyton Pritchard played through that, right?
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: When he treated every single minute that he got, whether it'd been two minutes at the end of a game or six minutes because they were up by 42, and he turned himself into one of those players that like it crucial to a championship caliber team, right?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: They they run practice drills that is called stop Peyton because he is such a phenomenal offensive player at his size.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: And for him to come off the bench and provide this level of production, this level of volume, three-point shooting, efficient three-point shooting is just super incredible.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out to Peyton Pritchard.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, continuing to watch his grind and the way he has raised himself up over the last couple of years is pretty impressive.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: This guy was a dude that I was almost 100% certain had been a Kenny for an all-star before.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: But again, going through my notes, shout out to Google Docs because nothing ever deletes.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: Josh Hart has never been a Kenny for real All-Star.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like for me, I should be ashamed of myself because Josh Hart has been, uh I'm gonna use this um as a pun, but it wasn't really necessarily intended, the heart of the New York Knicks.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's 14 points per game, 10 rebounds as a 5'4, small, four-power four, what you're gonna call him, and six assists per game.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: And if you just watching the New York Knicks on a night-in, night out basis, you understand that there's tiers to this, right?
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Tier number one is the two all-star starters as far as the importance to the New York Knicks.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: You have Jalen Brunson, you have uh Carl Anthony Towns.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: And going into the season, you know, they made the trade for Mikhail Bridges at the deadline last year.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: They made the trade for OG Ananobi.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: And going into it, you would assume that those two dudes would be more important, more important to the overall winning of this team.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, but it's really Josh Hart.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because of the amount of hustle and the amount of heart and the amount of loose balls, the extra possessions.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's a reason why if I look at this man's game long, he can play a good old 40 minutes a night.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: Not a night, but 39, 38, 39.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God, it's kind of insane.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: And even he made a little tweet about it this morning about um basically poking fun at people who think that him playing this amount of minutes is a bad thing.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: So far this season, he's played 47 46 of 47 games, which is a great thing.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: He has played 40 plus minutes in 14 of those games.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, Tom Thibodeau.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: One of these games he played 50 minutes.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, January 15th against the 76ers, he played 50 damn minutes.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: Where was I at during this game?
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was no joy beat.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Of course I didn't watch.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but shout out to Josh R, man.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Josh Art for sure.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: A starter on this team.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Next, we have a guy that I've been I've been on and off of this season.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's Cam Johnson.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Kenny, what are you talking about?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: On and off.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's been incredible.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, he 100% has been incredible.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's having the most efficient season of his career.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of the most efficient scorers in all of basketball, full stop as of today.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: But it's something about his game that scares me.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's something about his game.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: You talk about the Brooklyn Nets winning two first-round picks as they should at this point.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm thinking about the other teams that could potentially trade for him.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I don't know if he'll be able to be this good.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Last year's version of him, good.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Year before that version of him, really good.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right now, he's great.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if you want to pay that premium great price because it's more likely that he's last year's version of himself than this year's version of himself.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: But nonetheless, I have to give credit where it's due because he has been ridiculously efficient.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: He has been like, you know, you talk about tanking teams, right?
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: And there was a trade, a few trades now that the Brooklyn Nets have done, whether it be Dennis Schroeder going to the Golden State Warriors, where you felt like, and you know that the Brooklyn Nets were waving a white flag.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we were a little bit too good for our own liking.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: We need to take a step back.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and eventually we plan on trading Cam, maybe even a Nick, maybe maybe this guy, maybe that guy, maybe buy Al Ben Simmons.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really know.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: But there was a possession, and I I want to I want to go back and figure out which game it was.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was the game versus the Toronto Raptors, maybe?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, there is a possession um at the end of this game where the Brooklyn Nets are down by three points.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: And again, I don't remember if it was the Raptors game or a little bit before that.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: And there was a sideline out of bounds play drawn up for Cam Johnson to take a three-point shot.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: And again, this season he's shooting 42% from three.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: He has been incredible.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: And he missed a shot.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Or he missed a shot.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the reaction that he had for missing that shot just shows you that, like, it's so easy for us at as at home to be like, this team should be tanking.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: This team should be tanking.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: But the players care so much.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: And the reaction that Cam gave after missing that shot showed me everything that he is as a competitor and everything that he is as a ball player.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because it wasn't only like, damn, I missed a shot.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was one of those I am good enough to make that shot 99% of the time.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: And this happened to be that 1%.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I love it.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: And again, whoever trades for him, I'm sure they're gonna be fine, but I'm a little bit, I'll be hesitant with giving up the two first-round pick asking price.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: The last starter that we have, and I'm so happy that he's back in the lineup because his team could desperately use him, is Goga Badazi.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I never know if I'm pronouncing that name right, but for him to be able to be plug and play for the basically the last two seasons, you need me to play item here.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: You got somebody else to play.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: All right, that's cool.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still gonna be on the bench and rooting for my guys 100% of the time.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: He just came back.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they had that double overtime loss to the Miami Heat a few nights before um when he came back, but he ended up with 10 points, nine rebounds, and he just finds a way to slide in and play great defense.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's one of those dudes that feel like his defense will go underrated, but the Atlantic Master just a great defensive unit, and he's a part of that, right?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know how many different five-man units they could put out there that won't be on a string.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: And Gogabattazzi kind of contributes to that.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he is a guy that is willing to challenge every single shot at the rim.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter if he gets poked on six times in a game.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: That seventh time, he's still gonna jump and he's still gonna try to be a deterrence at the rim.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I just love those type of players that are like egoless and really just care about team success.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that is what I see at Gogobatazi.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now we go to our bench rolls.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if you notice, I'm doing a traditional NBA voting thing where it's two guards, three front court, and then I will have two wild cards.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: These we can fly through just a little bit as we talk about the bench guards.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: The first one is gonna be Ty Jerome.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Ty Jerome came to the with the Cavs and played a handful of games last season where he didn't even play.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're talking about what, five games, two minutes per game.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Who would have thought that he'd be able to be this good?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: And earlier in the season, we were having this conversation like is Ty Jerome one of the best value contracts that is not a rookie scale deal.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like he signed for what feels like pennies for his overall production.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm looking at it right here, he's making$2.5 million this season.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Last year he signed for two years, uh, two years 4.6.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: So he is just out there hooping his butt off.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: And the actual stats, if you care, is 11 points per game, three assists, two rebounds.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: He's shooting 44% from three.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: And they had the game a couple nights ago where he had his career high against the 76ers.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to 76ers.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: I see you, you tied up with the Bulls for that 10th spot.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead and take it.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: But in that game, him and Donovan Mitchell were the only two people offensively that had anything going.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: He ended up with eight for eight from three, setting his career high in total points and total made threes.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: And he's just been really good.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's something to be said about teams like the Cleveland Cavaliers that will always have like adequate to great point guard play, whether they be from Darius Garland, whether they be from Donovan Mitchell when it's his turn, whether it be from Karis LeVert, who's technically not a point guard, but definitely plays a lead ball handler to Ty Jerome, where you always feel like their offense has a chance because they always have a great initiator up top.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Ty Jerome fits right into that.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Number two, uh second guard off my bench is gonna be Malik Beasley.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Detroit Pistons.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, shout out to the Indiana Pacers.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: I made a tweet yesterday that's like I'm here for Pacers and Pistons rivalry, and there are so many people.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's not a rivalry because we be kicking their ass every single time.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I mean, I be kind of questioning what y'all be thinking.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel like you can have a rivalry even if one team is 100% more dominant or better today than the other team.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Every single year that the Warriors played against the Cavs, we assume that the Warriors are gonna win.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was still a rivalry.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: So, though, as of today, the Pacers are the better team, and I think the Pacers are 3-0 against them this season.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Every single one of these games is super chippy.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Every single one of these games have had an ejection, every single one of these games have had multiple scuffles.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: That is a rivalry, regardless of what the overall box score says at the end of the day.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: These two teams do not like each other.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's good for basketball.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: Getting back to it though, Malik Beasley.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think the main reason why Malik Beasley is here because Kay Cunningham just desperately need a shooting for the entirety of his career, and Malik Beasley provides that.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, who was the second best player on the Detroit Pistons on a day-day basis?
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: It changes.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: We had a stretch where Jalen Duran looked amazed, and then he went back to being the player that I, the version of him that I dislike.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it is Tobias Harris, but Tobias Harris just went through a stretch where he was averaging four points per game.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: And the other times it's Malik Beasley because he absolutely cannot miss.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: And you think about the spacing that he provides for Kay Cunningham, that is why he is on this list because every single season, Malik Beasley has been a plus three-point shooter.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we could just go through his entire career.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Career 40, a 38% shooter from three.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: And this season he's 40%.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Last year he's 41%.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: He had the one year between the Lakers and the Jazz, which was a down year for him where he shot 35%.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: But every single other year, especially if you get rid of that first year, we only play 20 games, he's been 38 to 42% from three.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: And right now he's averaging 16 points per game.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's been phenomenal for them.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to give him his flowers.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Off the bench, when it comes to the front court, we have Gershawn Yabuseli.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: There's some rumors that a lot of teams might be interested in Gershon Yabuseli, right?
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because the 76ers might not be going anywhere, but then they started to win some games and maybe they will go somewhere.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Gershan being able to translate is huge, right?
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: You see a lot of people that come over from um the Euro League and hell could be a Euro League MVP, and it's just not stick.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: There's just not something about the game just doesn't translate across leagues.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's fair.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that Sasovazchenkov is not a good hooper because we saw him just have 40 points on three dribbles like two weeks ago.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's something about translating the game over to the NBA.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe because Gershon started off here, he was more well adjusted to come back and stick.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: But him shooting as good as he did over the last three years in the Euro League, the question was, can he translate that to the NBA?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: The answer has been absolutely yes.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Dan Tim Bear cares about winning, and he's been phenomenal at that as well.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Our last two Ford spots before we get into wild cards is Dean Wade.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Dean Wade is like a guy that can feel a lot of different roles on a team.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: He can be the Giannis defender for what it's worth.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like he's gonna stop Giannis, but he can be the Giannis defender.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: He can play four, he can play three, he can hit shots, he swings the ball.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's lit like the perfect player for what the Cavs are trying to do as a role player.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I just value that type of thing.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm noticing there's a lot of Cavs here.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, um, also a lot of Indiana Pacers because I I have um Andrew, uh Aaron Neesmith on this.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Eesmith, when he got back into the lineup, I mean at one point he was shooting 50% from three.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Is that still holding up?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, let's see.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Is Neesmith still shooting 50% from three?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say no, and I would be wrong.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: He is still shooting 50% from three.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now, granted, he's only played 10 games this year, right?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, in those 10 games, he's been phenomenal.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Again, another guy that you trust guarding, but now he is guarding the bigger wings, and he is still a smaller wing, right?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you see him guard a Tatum or a Brown, he is still smaller than those dudes, but he is their best option there.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think he he's a competitor.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I just remember the Brogdon trade and the Bleach Report article or the meme that was like, this is what the Pacers got back from Malcolm Brogdon.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: And to see Nees Smith come in and just be able to be this player.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: Again, it's only a 10-game sample size, but those 10 games has been incredible.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm happy that he's back.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, lastly, we get to our two wild card spots.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: The first one, you know, I had to get a ball in here, is going to be Lonzo Ball.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: I genuinely just think Lonzo Ball contributes to winning basketball.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think that has been the case for the majority of his career and is still being the case here in Chicago.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know how valuable he will be on the market potentially, but he's just a fun player to watch.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: You could tell he cares about winning.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: You could tell he keeps his teammates accountable.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's been a few times throughout this year, it happened again yesterday, actually, against the um Boston Celtics, where he threw the ball down to Jalen Smith.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: And instead of Jalen Smith having a little layup over it, might have been uh no, it wasn't Derek White, it might have been Drew Holiday down there.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Jalen Smith swung it to the corner, and Lonzo ball looked at him like, go up with that.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then it was a timeout, and you saw him go right back to Jalen Smith and say, like, talking through these things.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I really love that late that level of leadership from Lonzo.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: And who knows what's gonna happen, man?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows what's gonna happen with him as far as his tenure with the Bulls?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: And lastly, it's gonna be a guy who I'm surprised also was not on my list before.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be Dyson Daniels.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason he's a wild card, because I feel like everybody in the world has experienced the Dyson Daniels thing.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's leading the league in deflection, he might set the record for deflections in the season and so on and so forth.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: So he's a wild card because he's not as a much of a hidden gem as some of these other dudes.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: As always, it's a conversation, though.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: You let me know.
• 20:00
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• 21:55
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• 21:58
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• 22:00
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• 22:02
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• 22:05
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• 22:06
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• 22:17
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• 22:21
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• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get to the Western Conference.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I might be breaking my own rule here with a couple of these players, right?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: In my mind, these are the guys that will not be making all-star appearances.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my first guard has a legitimate case to be an all-star.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: And as you're watching this, he might have already been named an all-star.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Norman Powell.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Norman Powell got memed out of this world.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: You saw Paul George go to another team, you saw Russell Westbrook go to another team, and Norman Powell said, hey, this is going to be addition by subtraction.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not the first time we've heard an NBA player say something similar to that.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of the times it's not really the case.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: I am very open about me being completely wrong about the Clippers going into the season.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: They've been one of the coolest stories this year.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: They have been so much better than I could have ever anticipated because I didn't goddamn believe the addition by subtraction from Norman Powell.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: This season he has 24 points per game, three and a half rebounds, two assists, 49% from the field, 43% from three.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: And like he's taken some really difficult shots.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: He just is.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, he's gonna get the open ones because you know you got James Harness and Orchestrator and all of those things.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I do believe that the level of shot making from Norman Powell this season has been one of the best in all of basketball.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: So he's a guy that legitimately has an all-star case.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to put him here just in case he does not make the all-star game because he's been a super fun watch, uh, an experience I didn't think was gonna hold up.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like we talk about the first month of the season.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, players start off hot all the time.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: They do all the time.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he ain't gonna be able to do that.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: He has been able to do that and more.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: And he's always been a great shooter, right?
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think the volume has just always been a question.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: The highest amount of shots he's taken in a game per season was in 2011-2012 when he was a part of the Portland Trailblazers, where he took 13.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Hella efficient there as well.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: But now that 13 is now turning into 17, and he is just as efficient as before.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I just want to give him all the credit in the world from kind of looking at that and helping his team stay afloat.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: And now that Y is back, who the hell knows?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: The next guy is Isaiah Joe.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: I always love Isaiah Joe.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think last time I did this, uh Aaron Wiggins was my candy for all-star, and I hadn't given Isaiah Joe that love.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's Isaiah Joe, man.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's something about players that know their role and do it great.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Isaiah Joe is a no-mistakes type of player.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, of course, there's be a hyperbolic because you will get a turnover, you will get a reach-in foul.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: But like on a day-to-day basis, he's one of those guys that very rarely makes mistakes and he understands what his team is asking for him on a night-to-night basis.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like when you have a team like the OKC Thunder with a star, a superstar player, maybe the MVP of the league, and two other guys and Chet Homegren and Jay Dub, who would normally be in all-star conversations, those exterior players, so those role players are super important and they have to understand what their role is.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: And Isaiah Joe does that to the fullest.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: My first front court spot for the Western Conference, maybe this is cheating again.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: God damn it.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's big zoo, man.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's big zoo.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you watch the other show, it's been memes about Zubots all around.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: One of my co-hosts wasn't a fan of him coming to the season.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: I told him, Chell out, chill out, chill out.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Zubot's nice, but he's also been a hundred times better than even I thought.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I was a guy that was saying that he was pretty good, right?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he's had a matchup against Victor and Yami at 2020.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he got a pretty bad whistle that game.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: That was just me from my optics.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I think he is just one of those guys that really cares again about winning, sets hard screens.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think his hands have got better throughout the course of his career.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think his defense is extremely, extremely underrated.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: When you think about them having the best defense in the league, you can't do that if your back line or defense is not good to elite.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Zubots is teetering that line, but it's just maybe getting a little bit under notice across the league.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to give him his flowers.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: Next guy is maybe my favorite role player in basketball, and it's PJ Washington.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Specifically when it's the full team, I just feel like he does so many things that won't pop up on the stat sheet.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, occasionally you will see him go out for a 20 to 25, depending on who's available and who's not.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I've just seen him shut the faucet off on some really good players this season.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, not completely, but like instead of it being a full flow, it's just trickling out of that faucet.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: And PJ Washington has been just a guy that can do that.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um and it it is something you think about what Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: did now this.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: This about to be a real tangent.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: What Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: did last season, where it was a down year for them, but he got so many reps as the primary creator.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's got reps that get into the bass, he's got reps that's shooting, he's got reps all all around the court.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: I somewhat be thinking about this Dallas Mavericks thing where they've had injury after injury, Kyrie with the back injury, and then Luca with this injury, Maxi Kleba's out, Dante Exum.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like the list goes on and on and on.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I wonder, could it overall be beneficial to the growth of a guy like Daniel Gafford or a guy like PJ Washington or a guy like Najee Marshall, who haven't really been tasked to be this potent offensively, but because they're missing their super duper star, the MVP candidate, that their role is just increased.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I just I'm thinking about that because Luca will be back somewhat soon.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: I read a report that he took a shot at halftime and he ran back or jogged, they said jogged, jogged back to the locker room after he's jogging.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty good.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: He should be back relatively soon.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe these extra reps that PJ Washington getting can overall be beneficial.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now, obviously, they're not winning a ton of games.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's the downside of it all, because who's gonna win games if Luca Doncic is not on the team and playing?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: But I just look at it that way.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my next front court player in the start, and my last start is Trey Murphy III.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this is this is maybe cheating.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: All right, I said I wasn't gonna have any duplicates.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: Trey Murphy III was a Kenny for all star his rookie season.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: That was a long time ago.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I did just want to shed some light on how great of a player he has been, where you're watching, he's always gonna be a great shooter, right?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: That was always a thing.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Trey Murphy, he got the third in his name because he had a lot of threes.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's a meme now remember when he was a rookie.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but we're seeing him put the ball on the floor and create for himself way more this year than last year.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: And you think about how putrid that Pelicans team has been when they had all of these injuries.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think that again, these reps that Trey is getting is gonna overall be beneficial.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: They did, they did have that game.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: This is maybe three weeks ago now, but it's the first one that comes to mind when they played against the Boston Celtics, and Trey Murphy had maybe 30, and he didn't touch the ball for the last three minutes.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so pissed off.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that's because that's how good of a player he was, that he deserved to get more touches in that game.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I've always been like, shout out to Brandon Ingram, phenomenal basketball player.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I've been team Trey Murphy the third for his fit with Zion more than Brandon Ingram.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: And now that Trey uh Brandon Ingram is always dealing with his injury stuff, you're seeing some of that.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: And they've been winning a few games here there.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: Now that they're slowly, slowly getting back into things.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Or at least I'm sorry, they were winning some things.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then they went back on a little scare.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I think at one point they were on a little five-game win streak, six-game win streak, but since then they've been skidding.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Now we're gonna get to our bench.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, Keon Ellis.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Could not for the life of me figure out why the hell Mike Brown was not playing Keon Ellis earlier in the season.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: But since then, he's been getting all the minutes in the world.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's a deflections king as well.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of those guys that I mentioned earlier that can hold his own in space, but also can pick a pocket, can also play the lanes.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: He is an all-energy all the time type of dude, and he is as good of a three-point shooter as advertised.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Next, we got Christian Brown.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: Christian Brown's also having a phenomenal season.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: I um, when we went to the Bulls game a few nights ago, he was the one that stood out the most.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now, granted, he did score like 28 points, and he doesn't really do that that often.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I just I thought his communication defensively was one thing that stood out.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are certain things you just can't see from watching a broadcast on TV, certain things that you can't hear.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: I was lucky enough through our partners at FanDuel and the Chicago Bulls to be on the floor.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was courtside there.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm hearing all of the communication.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: And Jokic was communicating quite a bit defensively, and then also Christian Brown.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: And he just played with this joy, right?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: Just played with this joy, made shots, missed shots, smiling through the things, and um, with him playing as good as he has and being like a really good cutter off of Nicole Jokic.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: I really love his game.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: It was surprised to me that the night after that, or two nights after that, when they played against the Knicks, he came off the bench for Aaron Gordon.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Gordon hasn't looked that great this season.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like surprised me that they shifted up their lineup.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was something I missed when they were talking about it.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: But overall, Christian Brown is there.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Next, we have John Collins.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: John Collins is in the same boat as a Beal, as a Levine, as a his contract type of guy, right?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: If it wasn't for his contract, he would be a phenomenal player to trade for.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I feel about John Collins.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Now, it's not the same contract as Beal that's making 50 or or Zach Levine that's making 48, but like his 26 this year, and more importantly, his 28 next year is probably the reason why they have been hesitant.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Teams have been hesitant to trade for him.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: But hit this season has been really great for him.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: I won't act like I've been tuning in every single night to the John Collins experience, but when they're on and there's no other games that are interesting, and I'm watching John Collins, it's been fun, right?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: And and John does have the reputation from a few years back when they went on their conference finals run to be like, he can turn it up defensively if you need him to.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I still do believe that that's the case.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like John Collins is a good NBA player, y'all.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: Is that breaking any news?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: You usually, when you get a big old contract, you don't live up to that contract for a few seasons, that is the only thing that follows you.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like John Collins is out of that.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Next front court player is going to be Tari.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: Tari Sim.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll I'll do it right now.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Tari and an Amen are Amin are both on this team.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Amin is my first wild card.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, also, like I said earlier with Dyson Daniels, the reason why Amin Thompson is a wild card and not an actual guy, because everybody knows.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's dropped 30 in the game winner against the Boston Celtics.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: He's been phenomenal this season, but I do believe he is the type of player that I love the most.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: And Tari, when these two guys are on the court together, it's like, I don't know, it's like chemistry, bro.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: They they really know how to get under people's skin.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: They really know how to cause turnovers and get out on a break.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's like real life entertaining basketball without it being the uniform that people be complaining about on a night-to-night basis.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's not, they're not gonna shoot a lot of threes.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna get to the basket, they're gonna get to the floater range and they're gonna create from there.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out to Tari and Amen.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my last forward is gonna be Tumani Kamaro.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Tumani Kamaro is just one of those guys that will probably be underrated and underappreciated for the next three years because who the hell knows what the Portland Trailblazers are gonna do or how they're gonna look.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I do believe that as soon as they start to get that talent in that door, as soon as they start to win some games, the world will recognize how good of a defensive player Tumani Kamaro really is.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: And he was a second-round player that was thrown into a trade.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if anybody, a part of that trade, uh either front office, knew what the hell Tumani Kamaro is gonna turn into.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: And he's shooting about league average from three.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a respected three-point shooter just yet, but the fact that he can provide you 35% from three is pretty impressive.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's really the defensive impact that you see on a night-to-night basis.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I like the guys, and there's a fine line between us.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: I like the type of guys that are completely okay with committing a few fouls.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's an extreme to this, like Carl Anthony Towns used to be, right?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, come on, bro, it's two minutes of the game.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta you gotta go to the bench now.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: But Tumani Kamaru is such an aggressive defensive player that he does get called for like these knickknack fouls, and he kind of welcomes it.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I like that, and that doesn't change his intensity, I guess, when it comes to um his defensive impact.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out to Tumani.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: The last guy we have, and I truly do believe that the 2024 draft class is gonna have a ton of Kenny for All-Stars in the future, but the one that made it this year is gonna be Jalen Wells.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: Him being able to sit his head on the chest of your favorite player and guard him that way is pretty damn impressive as a second-round rookie.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of my guys.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: We interviewed a guy on the team, Christian.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you watched the other show, you're probably familiar with Christian.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Christian, when we were in the interview process, you know, to work at Enjoy Basketball, baby, you gotta you gotta work the brand.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be a part of the brand.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I asked him, like, who's your favorite NBA player?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: And he said, uh, I don't really watch a lot of NBA.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: Red flag.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: Red flag, right?
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: He said, I love college basketball.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: And my favorite NBA player hasn't played a single second yet, but look out for Jalen Wells on the Memphis Grizzlies.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: I bet.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: The resume, he was great, but he's a great guy.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we hired him.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then I got to watch Jalen Wells on the Memphis Grizzlies.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Oh my god, Christian, are you an A1 scout?
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Who's in the 2025 draft class that my bulls should be looking at for the second round?
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out to my boy Christian.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, those are the Kenny Ferrari All-Stars for the 2025 season.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see what changes for 2026.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: You let me know who I miss from your favorite team.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now, we do got to bring in some questions from the audience.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: I got a few here.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: The first one comes from our guy whose name is not mentioned, but hopefully it's on screen.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: What happens to the Clippers?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: If they never trade it for Paul George, does Shay become a league MVP type?
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, we had this conversation not too long ago, right?
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: We had this conversation with the guys like the domino effect that comes with these trades.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know Doc Rivers, I know Lou Williams have both said over the last two years we saw it in Shay.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: We knew he was gonna be one of the best players in the world.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: They say it, but I just don't know how they could like truly, truly believe that.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Are they just you know what I'm saying?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: I, for what it's worth, you can go back at House of Highlights, those videos are still up.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: My first gig with House of Highlights, they gave me a three-month contract, and it was at Summer League.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: They say, hey, we want you to cover Summer League, we want we want you to put together five to ten minute videos every single day of Summer League talking about what you learned, the fun highlights, so on and so forth.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: It was my first like real gig that wasn't um like my own creation.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: And that was the year that Shea Gilgest Alexander was a rookie.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: The first video on that series, I said, I am in love with this guy, Shea Gilders Alexander, after watching him play one game, one game, mind you.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: And even me, who just fell in love with him that day, had no idea that this man was about to be an MVP.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: At the most, I thought he was about to be just a really good point guard.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even think about All-Star upside.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think that he was gonna be an MVP, right?
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: So the question is if he doesn't go to OKC, do we think he still makes that type of leap?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: I would probably say yes at the end of the day.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, of course, situation does matter.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: You do have to give credit to the the surrounding people in OKC from Sam Prestey from from plunking him in that trade.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Or um, he also gives a lot of him himself gives him credit to Chris Paul.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Paul don't get the credit for him being an MVP, damn it.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: But like, I feel like great players find a way.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: And he probably would still be amazing.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: What happens with the rest of the league?
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really know, right?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if no Shea is on OKC, that means no J Dub is on OKC because Jay Dub is a part of this trade too.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: The whole landscape changes dramatically.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: And this is from a super straight.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the small trades in NBA hoops change the whole landscape.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I do believe that Shay might have just had the dog in him.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: And he might have been a superstar regardless.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: The next one comes from the real Evan Hale.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think I've answered one of your questions before.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: That name sounds super familiar.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Hypothetically, which bottom feeder team has the building blocks to be a perennial playoff team, but hasn't yet because of issues such as role players, rosky structures, injuries, etc.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: My question is what do we consider a bottom feeder, right?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could say literally the Utah Jazz bottom feeder.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: The Pelicans are just a game, a half a game above them.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: So technically bottom feeder.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: But do we count teams like the Trailblazers?
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: Do we count teams like the Raptors?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think the Raptors is his answer.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: Currently, the Raptors on a five-game win streak, and their top three players, the guys that they paid all their money to, have only played last time I checked 80 minutes together.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I think they have the infrastructure to be a playoff team on a year-to-year basis.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: All these other teams like the Nets are too far away.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even think they really started their rebuild.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: The Charlotte Horn, it's too far away.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: I was buying in on all of the stock in them this year too early, too early.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: The Wizards, no.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: I guess it depends on what they get in this year's draft.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: The Jazz, no.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're really starting their rebuild now.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: So like I think of all the people that could potentially be in this conversation, it has to be the Raptors.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because though they came into the season with this being a bridge year in mind, I don't think they anticipated it being this bad with their injuries, right?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: Where as soon as you get Emmanuel quickly back, someone else goes out of injury.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now RJ's out with an injury.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: Now Scotty got hit in the face and he's got to wear a mask.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: I guess my answer to this is 100% going to be the Raptors, but I don't even know if they fit your criteria as a bottom feeder.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they do.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: They're on the outside looking at us today.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: The last written question I have is from Robert S45-430-551.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: Did I read that right?
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all know them numbers be kicking my ass.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: If you're the Kinks and you trade De'Aaron Fox, do you fully commit to the rebuild or do you just stick it out with what you got and give back solid young assets for sale, Sohan, for example?
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Since this De'Aaron Fox thing has broke, it has been the only thing that has been on my mind basketball related.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because I already made a video about it, so I'm not going to rehash some of the stuff I made I talked about in the video, but even since then, my thought process has shifted quite a bit.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you didn't know, De'Aaron Fox has not formally requested a trade, but I guess Rich Paul has put a little bit of pressure on the front office to say, hey, it might be of your best interest to shop me around because in 2026 I want to play for the Spurs.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um and it's been rumored that they want solid contributing players right now and draft capital, which makes sense.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: But you start to think about the other teams across basketball, who could provide those type of things?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: And should you care from both sides?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: Should the team traded him care that he said he wanted to go to the Spurs?
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Should the Sacramento Kings care that he said he wants to go to the Spurs?
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because in my mind, there are only a few teams that really make sense as far as acquiring De'Aaron Fox.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: That is the Miami Heat, that is the Orlando Magic, kind of.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that is the Houston Rockets, who I I'm a little iffy about, but I kind of understand if they want to get into it.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: All reports say they're not into it.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: But um, and then you got the Spurs, right?
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: So if you look at those teams, you think about what they could potentially give you in the trade.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are a lot of people right now on Spurs Twitter that are arguing or having a conversation.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like if we do trade for the Air Fox, is it worth trading Jeremy?
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Is it worth trading Devin?
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: Is it worth trading Stefan if this man has not publicly said, but all the rumors show that in 2026 he wants to come here anyway?
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to uproot some of our young foundational pieces to get a guy that told you that he wants to come here in just a year and a half anyway?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to give up guys that we've been developing where Jeremy Sohan was a point guard that now he's playing backup center?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: Do we want to give up that level of progression in order to get De'Aaron if he said he wants to be here anyway?
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you're the Miami Heat and you see that that De'Aaron Fox wants to go to the Spurs, do you try to plunk him away in hopes that you can change his mind, his perspective, and have him resign?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: To get back to your original question, what do the Kings do?
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: I like the idea of them getting draft capital and getting pieces that can help them right now.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: We know that even with De'Aaron Fox, there is a hard ceiling on how good this team can be.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: This team, as fully healthy, fully currently constructed, is a playoff team.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: If you trade away De'Aaron Fox, in theory, you get worse there, but I still believe they're a playoff quality team.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they have a few wins this season where De'Aaron Fox is not in the lineup.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's some advanced stats to say that, you know, of course, De'Aaron Fox is amazing.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to discredit him in any way, but not having De'Aaron Fox might not be the end of it all because of DeMontasabonis as a system, DeMontas A bonus as the primary um um facilitator and the primary initiator.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: He can kind of work with a Malik monk.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: He can kind of work with whatever player we get back in this hypothetical trade.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I think about it like this.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, obviously, Kenny, if you make that trade, you just bring in those players.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say it is for this conversation, it is Jeremy because the Sacramento Kings desperately need big forwards.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say it is Jeremy and some other pieces here or there.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they don't really do anything.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because even if you're making the argument that's a bonus is a system, they still have a hard ceiling.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: But then you think about the capital, the draft capital.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, when you are a team like the Kings, or you are a team like the Thunder, or you are a team like the Rockets and all of these teams that own their own draft capital, you're waiting for the moment where the right player is available.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: So if we can stay afloat without De'Aaron Fox for the next two seasons, and hypothetically the guy that we think is the bridge, the guy that we believe can be the guy becomes available, that's when we put all our chips on the table and say, hey, we got our own first-round picks, but we also got three from the Spurs, or we got two from this team, we got this, and we got that.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think there can be value in building from the middle.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's all.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you always have to tear it down to the studs because though this is a new regime, this is McNair in there instead of some of the other guys, drafting is just a hard thing to do, man.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: It just really is.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: And if you break it down to the studs, you say, hey, we the Kings, we have 14 first-round picks for all of the players.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just making some stuff up.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: Do you really believe that they're gonna hit on these draft picks to bring things back to greatness in five or seven years?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: I just struggle with that.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm okay with it, the idea of building from the middle.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't have to worry about your own draft picks being louder picks, that maybe you have a year that the team you traded for picks are bad, and now you draft that guy.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you think about the Spurs having the Atlanta Hawks pick, and the Atlanta Hawks in theory should be worse for the rest of the season without Jalen Johnson, I'm just interested in that.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: That is as of today a top 10 pick.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: And this draft class is supposed to be a good one.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you get in the superstar player at eight, but nobody ever thinks they're getting the superstar player at eight, and then you do.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I do believe that building from within, building from the inside out could be beneficial from the Sacramento Kings.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um thank you for the question.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_02: What if Curry had never fully recovered from his ankle injury?
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Would the three-pohn still be as important as it is today?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: Would someone else have taken this role and revolutionized the sport?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Or would we be kind of still evolving?
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: By the way, Love the Pod.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: Your voice reminds me.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: I listened to this audiobook.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_00: Project Hail Mary.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: I read the book and then I listened to the book.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: Your voice reminds me of one of the characters in Project Hail Mary, and for the life of me, I can't figure out which character it is, but I like it.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: What happens if that's something, ain't it?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: Do we still see that three-play revolution?
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: I would say yes, but I don't know if it would have peaked as much as it has peaked right now.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you look at the numbers during Steph Curry's era, because again, if he's still going through ankle injuries, he's still performing.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: He's just not a 70-game a year player.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: He probably just doesn't blossom into a superstar.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: But the numbers were already climbing early in Curry's career.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: It just so happened Curry hit at the right time to make it explode to like everybody wants to shoot threes now.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I do believe that we would see some type of progression there.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's just not now where you know teams are taking 52% of their shots from three.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if we get there by 2025.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: But that's a really interesting thing because Steph Curry's ankles are one of the biggest domino effects of all of basketball history, right?
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: You think about the era that the Warriors dominated.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: One of the reasons why they're able to dominate the era is because Steph Curry signed that smaller contract because we didn't know exactly.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: They wanted to play it safe.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: And because he was still in that smaller contract, is the reason why they had the money, including with the CBA jump, that they had the money to go get Kevin Durant to get those extra two.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: So his ankles, as stupid as it sounds, for Steph Curry himself, his ankles being made out of glass the first four years of his career is kind of a blessing in disguise because it helped him and his team continue to progress.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: But I do believe that the three-point ball would still be king.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: It just may not be as king as it is today.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: One hypothetical that I have is uh what if the Chris Paul to the Lakers trade was never vetoed?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, my heart.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: What if the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers never vetoed?
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's a couple different ways this could have win.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think the best answer for me is that Chris Paul has a piece of jewelry.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Paul has a championship.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I think um Chris Paul's legacy is still amazing without his championship.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: Do not get me wrong, he's still gonna go down as one of the five to seven greatest point guards of all time.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: If you ask me, he's a little bit higher than than the number I just mentioned.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that's without a championship.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: But if you you saw what type of player he was before that trade got vetoed, and you think about pairing him alongside uh Kobe being Bryant, there's no way in my mind that that team doesn't work out to at least get a championship.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: Now, there are a lot of different factors, right?
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure before Kawhi Leonard got traded to the Clippers, I thought there was no place in mind where the Clippers don't win at least one.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it's basketball at the end of the day.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: Things happen.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: But in my mind, there's still a championship there for Chris Paul to be won.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that changes the way people think about Chris Paul, right?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um talking about Chris Paul.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: I truly do believe that Chris Paul is an amazing playoff performer.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: But even with his amazing playoff performances, there are a few games in there that are absolute stinkers.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: There are a few games in there that completely shift the absolute like um visual or the way people look at Chris Paul as a playoff performer.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: But the numbers say he's one of the best performers of all time at the point guard position.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: And if you have a championship, then there's no dispute on that.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: But because he doesn't have a championship and his team has blown 3-1 lead, and because he has had a game where he gave them absolutely nothing in a close out, then nobody cares about the game when you hit the game winner over the Spurs.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody cares about you shooting perfect from the field in a closeout game.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody cares about that type of thing because you do have the stinker that led to nothing.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: So um, I do believe there's another championship.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the Lob City era obviously doesn't exist.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: Blake Griffin is still a rookie now.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what happens with Blake Griffin if no Chris Paul is there.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: He's still amazing.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Don't get me wrong, because he was already, you know, as a rookie, he was amazing without Chris.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just thinking about his progression as a hooper and the years of Lob City is completely not gone.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: I guess it's Bled, right?
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's Bled and it's Aminu and it's Eric Gordon in those spots.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: I wish the trade did happen, but I you know the story about why I was vetoed and stuff, and I can't even say that they were wrong in vetoing it, but I appreciate the question.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: Before we get out of here, there's just one more thing that has been bothering me for the last 24 hours.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: There was um an interview that Adam Silver was on, and basically he he threw out the idea or talked about internal conversations about changing the length of the quarters for the NBA.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: He mentioned that across other basketball leagues, nobody else is playing 12-minute quarters outside of the NBA.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: And his main reasoning behind it, he was talking about the TV product, right?
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: Other leagues, um the Euro League and the W, they have a two-hour slot while the NBA has a two and a half hour slot, and it's just a little bit more difficult for the extra 30 minutes for the normal NBA fan to stay tuned in.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I will say right now, I love 12-minute quarters, but hypothetically, if it does change to 10, so be it.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think the rationalization behind changing it to 10 is mind-blowing to me from Adam Silver.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because he wants to shorten the time.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: He wants to shorten the TV spot, which is I like that idea.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: Hell, nobody wants to sit down for two and a half hours to watch basketball because a lot of it's not bad.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: There are so many other ways we can save time in an NBA broadcast.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding me?
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the root of the problem.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the extra two minutes per quarter, it's the excessive reviewing.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh it's so many commercial, it's like the length of the halftime show on these nasty televised games.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the actual ball.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding me?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, come on, if you wanted to fit this 48-minute product into two hours, I promise you you could.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: I promise you you could.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: You could.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to eliminate some of the other bullshit across hoops.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: It just bothers me that that was his reason.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: But also, one thing that was that I um brought to my attention, and this is something I would have never, never thought about.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I oh, I wish, I wish I had the tweet because it really made me think.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you if you really cut down to 10-minute quarters, um and and listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna remember to put the tweet in the c in the in the comments or in the in the description, because I really would love to give credit to this idea because it's not an idea for me.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: If you cut the game to 10-minute quarters, it practically eliminates role player importance.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: Think about it.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: The best player in ball are pretty much playing as of today 34 minutes per 33.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: If you play for Tom Thibodeau, you're already playing a full 40.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: So that gives that that eliminates the middleman.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: It just does.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I just I hate that idea.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: There would be no Kenny for All-Stars if there's 40-minute quarters.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: How about that?
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Some of these dudes, the Ty Jerome's of the world, um, the Dean Wades of the world, they wouldn't have this opportunity to turn into who they are as players.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: The Peyton Pritchard of the world, he doesn't exist in the NBA if they're if we don't have these extra minutes for them to do the part that they're doing.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because now there's no reason to run a 10-man rotation.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: You just run a seven, you run a seven-man rotation every single night.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: And you can you can fill up 40 minutes.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: But that extra eight minutes per game makes it, though, that player eight and player nine, and maybe even player 10 has an opportunity to show the shit that they have.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: It changed the league quite a bit, Adam.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I would hope you reconsider again.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: If you do it, I'm not gonna come up here and say I'm boycotting the NBA.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking love the product, but it's just something to think about.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: You let me know what you think.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: And again, I wish I had this tweet.
• 51:52
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• 51:55
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• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: Would really love to see what y'all think about the show because I think it's phenomenal.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as always, I'll see y'all next week.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: And next week, it's a trade deadline.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: Whoo! Hey, I can't wait to talk about all 17 trades that happen at the deadline because that's the amount I'm hoping for.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's probably gonna be like seven.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: But regardless, I'm here for it, and hopefully you will be there for it too.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'll see y'all next week.