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- 0:03Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome to the Millionaire Dentist Podcast, brought to
- 0:07Speaker 1: you by four Quadness Advisory. On this podcast, we break
- 0:11Speaker 1: down the world of dentistry, finances and business practices to
- 0:14Speaker 1: help you become the millionaire dentists you deserve to be.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Please be advised we do speak with an honest tongue
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- 0:24Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. This is Casey Hires back at the
- 0:26Speaker 2: Millionaire Dnist Podcast in studio with co host Jared Bridgeman. Casey,
- 0:30Speaker 2: good morning, How are you doing great? Listen?
- 0:33Speaker 3: You know, yesterday you and I went out to lunch
- 0:35Speaker 3: for my work anniversary and we went to a really
- 0:38Speaker 3: nice place and I kind of mentioned it to you,
- 0:40Speaker 3: but it was really funny.
- 0:41Speaker 2: You know.
- 0:42Speaker 3: I was on Instagram messed around last night and on
- 0:44Speaker 3: one of the stories, I realized that my cousin, who
- 0:47Speaker 3: I'm actually pretty close to, was sitting right behind us,
- 0:49Speaker 3: but our backstore to each other didn't notice.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Your awareness is impressive.
- 0:54Speaker 3: I was so focused on my art of choking crab
- 0:57Speaker 3: grilled cheese sandwich.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Nothing else mattered, was damn good. Yeah. Plus the eight martinis. Yes,
- 1:02Speaker 2: just kidding.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my thanks again for taking me out. That
- 1:07Speaker 3: was great and I had a really good time. Yeah, that
- 1:09Speaker 3: was that was a lot of fun date I have
- 1:11Speaker 3: had a while.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Thank you. I hear that all the time. We're used to,
- 1:15Speaker 2: but it never gets old. So remember that show The Apprentice?
- 1:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what was that? What was the line You're fired? Yeah?
- 1:23Speaker 4: And then now he's somebody famous host, he's one of
- 1:26Speaker 4: your favorite political So for our listeners, Jared and I
- 1:29Speaker 4: get along well, but political views, I tend to be
- 1:33Speaker 4: a touch more conservative Jared, maybe a little more progressive.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Is that is that a good way? Yeah? Yeah, I
- 1:39Speaker 2: mean I call it wrong, but I'm progressive for Indiana. Yes,
- 1:43Speaker 2: but no, that's yeah, we we but the nice thing
- 1:45Speaker 2: is we don't let political views divide us. Yeah, we
- 1:49Speaker 2: work across the aisle, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah,
- 1:52Speaker 2: we're gonna get into your fired. You're fired. Yeah, it's
- 1:55Speaker 2: a fun line, right. I like that. I was young
- 1:57Speaker 2: when that show. It's fun until it's you both fair.
- 2:01Speaker 2: I used to call to buy merchandise from like the
- 2:04Speaker 2: Apprentice shop or something, and then I would go through
- 2:07Speaker 2: the my order and then I would go, you're fired.
- 2:10Speaker 2: And I thought that was hilarious, And what we do
- 2:12Speaker 2: on speakerphone bad sense of humor. That's so funny. But
- 2:16Speaker 2: a lot of our ideas, they don't just come from
- 2:18Speaker 2: Jared and I just it comes from talking to practice owners.
- 2:22Speaker 2: And we were talking to some new clients recently from
- 2:25Speaker 2: the East Coast and we're getting into this topic. So
- 2:27Speaker 2: we thought, you know what, let's talk about it on
- 2:30Speaker 2: a podcast because I think a lot of practice owners
- 2:32Speaker 2: can struggle with with firing, and first off, firing, who
- 2:38Speaker 2: how about rude patients? Yeah, yeah, rud patients can definitely
- 2:42Speaker 2: be up there.
- 2:42Speaker 3: That's that's a tough pill to swallow sometimes because it's
- 2:45Speaker 3: a walking money bag.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Potentially sometimes the rude parents patients also don't want to pay.
- 2:52Speaker 2: They want to true about payments. But you know, we
- 2:55Speaker 2: were joking about how really you just want to tell
- 2:57Speaker 2: them to screw off, but you might need to make
- 3:01Speaker 2: sure it's a professional dismissal. Screw keep the high road
- 3:05Speaker 2: as you recommend. You know what, there's someone down the
- 3:08Speaker 2: road and maybe it's your competitor that you don't care
- 3:10Speaker 2: for sure, Uh, send them a glowing reference and recommendation
- 3:16Speaker 2: to send them on to. One interesting point came out
- 3:18Speaker 2: of this. It's a double edged sword. But if you
- 3:20Speaker 2: give your staff autonomy, Hey, if somebody because a lot
- 3:22Speaker 2: of times the patients are nice to dentist, but they're
- 3:25Speaker 2: rude to staff, right, and giving your staff the autonomy
- 3:29Speaker 2: to listen, if if majority of you vote that this
- 3:32Speaker 2: person is rude and you have good examples, that can
- 3:36Speaker 2: empower a staff. Dentist or specialist has to have final
- 3:40Speaker 2: approval of that, but that can be a really interesting book.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Let me ask you what what what can a you know,
- 3:46Speaker 3: a jerk patient due to the practice and due to
- 3:49Speaker 3: the employees, Like.
- 3:50Speaker 2: What's the fallout from that? Well, what do you mean fallout?
- 3:54Speaker 2: What of keeping? Keeping? Somebody gets as hurt and who
- 4:00Speaker 2: sends a bad review and you know that of course
- 4:03Speaker 2: there's going to be some blowback. But the counterpoint is
- 4:06Speaker 2: if truly somebody is a bad patient and they're terrible
- 4:09Speaker 2: to staff, and they're rude to staff and all those things,
- 4:12Speaker 2: it can be in that positive yep, by doing that.
- 4:15Speaker 2: But that that was sort of the appetizer, if you will,
- 4:19Speaker 2: of the conversation of firing staff, And sometimes it can
- 4:22Speaker 2: be therapeutic to just you know, give them the proverbial
- 4:27Speaker 2: bird and tell them the kick rocks and all that stuff.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I would say each owner has to find their their
- 4:33Speaker 2: footing with that professional way to do it. Yeah, that's
- 4:37Speaker 2: probably recommended. But I thought it was interesting that again,
- 4:40Speaker 2: if if somebody is really rude to hygenister, office manager
- 4:44Speaker 2: or employees, that them having some power or say psychologically
- 4:50Speaker 2: can really be a good thing in an office because again,
- 4:53Speaker 2: it gives people that feeling of autonomy and control and power,
- 4:56Speaker 2: which I think can be good.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Now, let me let me ask what happens if they
- 5:00Speaker 3: run with that a little too far. What if they
- 5:03Speaker 3: start firing patients on their own.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you've got to set in proto call. Nobody
- 5:09Speaker 2: can do that just whatever. And yeah, and there's got
- 5:14Speaker 2: to be here's the criteria when this happens. But I
- 5:17Speaker 2: think there could be some power there. And when I've
- 5:20Speaker 2: talked to people who had to fire patients, ultimately they
- 5:22Speaker 2: felt good about it. And it got to the point
- 5:25Speaker 2: where they said, listen, if somebody wants to write a
- 5:27Speaker 2: bad review and hang that over my head, I have
- 5:29Speaker 2: a good enough practice. I'm a good enough that we're
- 5:31Speaker 2: going to overcome that. Because it's it's there's more benefit
- 5:36Speaker 2: to it.
- 5:36Speaker 3: I would say, so let's what else there's obvious, what
- 5:39Speaker 3: else falls into the realm of firing.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Well, I think the more applicable one is with your
- 5:45Speaker 2: staff and team. Right, And we've talked about this for
- 5:48Speaker 2: close to four years now. There's a supply and demand
- 5:52Speaker 2: problem with staff and team correct. Finding good hygienis finding
- 5:56Speaker 2: good people. That's really really hard, and so the whole
- 6:00Speaker 2: getting rid of mediocre people has been harder.
- 6:03Speaker 3: I can see that, and especially if they're doing their
- 6:06Speaker 3: job just well enough. But some of it too, Like
- 6:09Speaker 3: you know, here at our company we focus highly on
- 6:12Speaker 3: not only very talented people, but are they going to
- 6:14Speaker 3: fit within our company culture. You know, you might have
- 6:18Speaker 3: found a hygienus who's really really good technically, but as.
- 6:22Speaker 2: A big, big drama queen. Yeah. I mean when you
- 6:24Speaker 2: talk about bad bad team members, you know, anytime there's
- 6:27Speaker 2: a negative negativity regarding office culture, if they're stirring up
- 6:32Speaker 2: drama within the office and there and there's that that
- 6:36Speaker 2: vibe that is a huge blinking code red.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Right, because that's not only her or him, you know,
- 6:43Speaker 3: that's the entire that affects the entire team.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Yeah, But the conversation we had if you're not if
- 6:48Speaker 2: your hygiene department is not running optimally and you need
- 6:50Speaker 2: more hygienis. You've got to be real strategic. But boy,
- 6:54Speaker 2: if you can, if you know I need to get
- 6:56Speaker 2: rid of this person, then actively be working to find
- 6:59Speaker 2: the right people to fill this so then you're in
- 7:01Speaker 2: a position well.
- 7:03Speaker 3: And that one person may be preventing you from keeping
- 7:05Speaker 3: in a spot filled for a long time.
- 7:07Speaker 2: More times than not, their mediocre at their job. They
- 7:12Speaker 2: try to boss their their peers around. They try to
- 7:15Speaker 2: almost take a.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Superior like I've been here longer, like an unofficial managerial roles.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have I'm louder, I'm the alpha, I'm
- 7:24Speaker 2: going to be the boss. That that drama that stirs
- 7:27Speaker 2: it up. They're not that great at their job. They're
- 7:28Speaker 2: bossing around others. Typically they're demanding a raise, right and right.
- 7:33Speaker 2: You have a choice as a practice owner. You can
- 7:35Speaker 2: lead or you can be led. There's not a lot
- 7:39Speaker 2: of gray area.
- 7:40Speaker 3: No, and and the tough part with that too is
- 7:42Speaker 3: it's it's not always a learned skill. I mean, if
- 7:47Speaker 3: you want to lead, you can, you can push yourself
- 7:49Speaker 3: to do that. But if you're really maybe meek type
- 7:53Speaker 3: of personality, it's gonna be kind of hard for some
- 7:55Speaker 3: people to to do that. But then you'll find out,
- 7:58Speaker 3: you know you've said this before, your bloody the tail
- 8:00Speaker 3: wag the dog.
- 8:01Speaker 2: At that point, a lot of practice owners, we know
- 8:04Speaker 2: they are nice, they are sweet people. They want to
- 8:08Speaker 2: do dentistry, and they want to treat their employees as
- 8:10Speaker 2: well at heart, and they don't want to fire people.
- 8:14Speaker 2: But again, you're going to make your decision. And if
- 8:18Speaker 2: you don't have the ability to take charge of your
- 8:21Speaker 2: practice and lead your practice, your team and staff will
- 8:24Speaker 2: seek or smell weakness, and that's when you're going to
- 8:27Speaker 2: get people to try to run your office. I see,
- 8:30Speaker 2: unfortunately too many times an office manager or an assistant
- 8:34Speaker 2: they think they run the office and they kind of
- 8:37Speaker 2: do that. That's not good for culture. You need to
- 8:40Speaker 2: be a strong leader. But you have to make your choice.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Either be lad, let the tail wag the dog and
- 8:45Speaker 2: be okay with it because confrontation is too scary, or
- 8:49Speaker 2: take charge of it. And sometimes you've got to take
- 8:52Speaker 2: a shot across the bow, if you will, and make
- 8:54Speaker 2: a big Hey, this person's been here for a long time,
- 8:57Speaker 2: and all these reasons why I shouldn't fire them but
- 8:59Speaker 2: in reality that would be the best thing to do.
- 9:02Speaker 3: And you're right, confrontation is really never a fun thing,
- 9:05Speaker 3: but it's something that needs to be done from time
- 9:07Speaker 3: to time. A big part of it is, you know,
- 9:09Speaker 3: is removing the personal feelings out of it. You know,
- 9:13Speaker 3: everything we talk about, especially when it comes to business,
- 9:16Speaker 3: is remove the feelings, remove the emotions in a situation.
- 9:20Speaker 2: The hardest firings are the ones where you like them
- 9:22Speaker 2: as a person, you like them as a human, but
- 9:24Speaker 2: they're not maybe doing their job, but they're also not
- 9:26Speaker 2: certain of drama. Those are probably the hardest ones that
- 9:30Speaker 2: we hear from practice owners. But yeah, it's a fascinating topic,
- 9:36Speaker 2: and we're having this conversation with some people that are
- 9:39Speaker 2: they are strong leaders and they don't mind a little confrontation,
- 9:42Speaker 2: but you still have to be very strategic. Do you
- 9:44Speaker 2: ever do like a pro con list, you know, with
- 9:47Speaker 2: the pro con pro con That's that's something I've done
- 9:52Speaker 2: since I was I.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Was kind of wondering, like it's like, Okay, what are
- 9:55Speaker 3: we paying them, what's what's how good are they at
- 9:58Speaker 3: their job versus how are they fitting in here? You know,
- 10:01Speaker 3: whatever the cases may be.
- 10:03Speaker 2: In my personal life, There's been a lot of things
- 10:05Speaker 2: where if I just sit down and actually do the
- 10:08Speaker 2: hokey pros and cons on a piece of paper, all
- 10:12Speaker 2: of a sudden, things become a lot more clear, because
- 10:15Speaker 2: in your mind you're running through so many RPMs in
- 10:18Speaker 2: your mind of what if and this, that and the
- 10:19Speaker 2: other word. If you just list here's what I like,
- 10:21Speaker 2: here's what I don't like, it can be a glaring
- 10:24Speaker 2: either indictment on the person that needs to be fired
- 10:27Speaker 2: or realize, you know what, I need to be a
- 10:30Speaker 2: better leader and coach them up, because you can't just
- 10:32Speaker 2: fire everybody that doesn't correct isn't awesome. They may just need.
- 10:35Speaker 3: They may just need that leadership to really blossom to
- 10:38Speaker 3: what they could be.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the expectation. You're missing it here. But this
- 10:43Speaker 2: is a really challenging topic for a lot of practice owners.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And again in a season where some hygiene departments are
- 10:49Speaker 2: maybe understaffed or they can't find one, or they're paying
- 10:52Speaker 2: a fortune for these tempts and they're in a real
- 10:54Speaker 2: bad place their strategy around everything. Do not be led
- 10:59Speaker 2: into the false nair Well, it's just where I live. Well,
- 11:02Speaker 2: it's just this. There's nothing that can be done. That's
- 11:05Speaker 2: incorrect because we have a lot of people who are
- 11:07Speaker 2: people all staffed properly with the right people, and they've
- 11:10Speaker 2: had to make some tough decisions. But ultimately, what's what's
- 11:13Speaker 2: the addition by subtraction? Right? Right, they've made these tough decisions,
- 11:17Speaker 2: they look up and six or nine months later and go,
- 11:19Speaker 2: my god, I should have done that three years ago,
- 11:23Speaker 2: and again with the patient, but more importantly probably with
- 11:26Speaker 2: with your team and staff. But I thought that the
- 11:30Speaker 2: firing of the patient. We've talked about that before. We have,
- 11:33Speaker 2: we have, and it's it's that's a tough thing. But
- 11:36Speaker 2: I mean I've done it in my own personal life.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Back when I was in a different business and I
- 11:40Speaker 2: had to uh to a client, I was like, you
- 11:42Speaker 2: know what I'm not maybe I'm not the right foot
- 11:44Speaker 2: for you.
- 11:44Speaker 3: This guy will do what you're asking. I hated that guy.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I was very professional for me.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, you just touched on another thing that
- 11:53Speaker 2: that if you strongly dislike somebody, don't let personal emotion
- 11:59Speaker 2: cause you to make a mistake. Correct when I said
- 12:01Speaker 2: double edged sword, this is tricky. This is not a
- 12:04Speaker 2: just straightforward topic like oh yeah, just fire somebody and
- 12:07Speaker 2: everything's better. No, I mean you yeah, I think about
- 12:09Speaker 2: it a little bit. There's got to be some strategy.
- 12:12Speaker 2: It's funny our clients will go, hey, do you guys
- 12:14Speaker 2: help with this or that, and we always say, if
- 12:17Speaker 2: it's a five thousand dollars decision or more, right, then
- 12:20Speaker 2: get us involved. We'll help talk through it, strategy, timing, pace,
- 12:23Speaker 2: all those things. And it's always fascinating the deep breath. Okay, wow,
- 12:28Speaker 2: I can have somebody to bounce us off of. That's great. Yeah,
- 12:31Speaker 2: because so many people make these decisions on in their
- 12:34Speaker 2: own vacuum of their life and have only their limited
- 12:37Speaker 2: scope to base things off of. Yeah, you know, yeah,
- 12:40Speaker 2: when you know you're producing dnistry six seven hours a day, yeah,
- 12:43Speaker 2: and you've got a life, Yep, there's not a lot
- 12:47Speaker 2: of time to sometimes strategize on all this now.
- 12:49Speaker 3: And you know, at the end of the day, how
- 12:51Speaker 3: often do you go home and you're just kind of
- 12:52Speaker 3: mentally exhausted too, you know. I mean that's for me,
- 12:55Speaker 3: it's it's you know, I turn on the TV for
- 12:57Speaker 3: about twenty messes to kind of decompress for a minute.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Yeah, even do anything else with my evening. I'm getting
- 13:01Speaker 2: in the vinyl records. I mean, you know, I just yeah,
- 13:04Speaker 2: I just got records. I just we just started. It
- 13:07Speaker 2: was like some charity event. My wife wanted this record
- 13:09Speaker 2: player and it was pretty sweet and probably played double
- 13:11Speaker 2: what it was made a cost, you know, it was
- 13:13Speaker 2: freaking cost. Yeah. Well it came with Taylor Swift, Michael Jackson,
- 13:18Speaker 2: the Beatles, and Bruno Marx. That's good. I just had
- 13:22Speaker 2: Johnny Cash and Foo Fighters. Here's my point talking about
- 13:26Speaker 2: when you're tired at the end of the day, I'll
- 13:28Speaker 2: go down to the basement and put on the record
- 13:30Speaker 2: and I can't toggle through eighteen songs in five minutes.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I actually have to listen. Yep. It's very relaxing, isn't that.
- 13:37Speaker 2: It's very different.
- 13:37Speaker 3: It's the same as you know, back when we only
- 13:40Speaker 3: had the three TV channels, you kind of just got
- 13:42Speaker 3: to watch what's on.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a there was a real serenity to
- 13:47Speaker 2: listening to a Vinyl record, not exactly knowing what the
- 13:50Speaker 2: next song was, but just listening to it for a
- 13:52Speaker 2: period of time. Yeah, it was nice, and I think
- 13:55Speaker 2: as a practice owner, there's so much stone thrown at you.
- 13:59Speaker 2: You've got to find your out let a lot of
- 14:00Speaker 2: people tell us they'll hit the treadmill and listen to podcasts.
- 14:04Speaker 2: A lot of times we're on that shortlist. That's why
- 14:07Speaker 2: we try to keep it to y. You know, a
- 14:09Speaker 2: nice two and a half mile run, right, what should
- 14:14Speaker 2: that be done in about uh for a normal person
- 14:16Speaker 2: or sixteen to twenty minutes?
- 14:18Speaker 4: Right?
- 14:18Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but you've got to find your outlet because
- 14:21Speaker 2: there's so many practice owners that just bitch about the
- 14:25Speaker 2: same four things, and five years later they go meet
- 14:28Speaker 2: up with their classmates from dental school and they're all
- 14:31Speaker 2: bitching about the same things. Do something about it or
- 14:34Speaker 2: stop complaining? Yeah, lead or be led off the pot.
- 14:38Speaker 2: But you just can't be the victim woe was me? Right,
- 14:41Speaker 2: because we have a lot of people in challenging areas
- 14:44Speaker 2: with limited hiring pools that have great hygiene departments, they
- 14:48Speaker 2: have good staff, they're happy, there's harmony. It can be done.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Don't don't fall into the trap of victim victim the circumstance. Yes, yes,
- 14:58Speaker 2: there's always one offs. There's always unique sit for sure,
- 15:00Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah. Just start firing.
- 15:03Speaker 3: People, Yeah, just get rid of the entire everybody kidding,
- 15:05Speaker 3: Speaking of firing Casey Casey.
- 15:08Speaker 2: I forgot to mention get some bad news, bad news
- 15:10Speaker 2: for Casey this week. In fact, we're going to be
- 15:15Speaker 2: in the DC area. It's gonna be really good. Swamp
- 15:18Speaker 2: the Swamp. You and I should go in a bipartisan
- 15:21Speaker 2: manor and really night everybody. You know. I've never actually
- 15:23Speaker 2: been to d C. Ever.
- 15:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't mind going at least once to kind
- 15:27Speaker 3: of check out, you know, the the you know the standards.
- 15:29Speaker 2: I did a tour of the White House as a
- 15:31Speaker 2: kid during the Clinton administration. I was I was a
- 15:33Speaker 2: kitting puberty though. Yeah, so I was. I was so
- 15:35Speaker 2: you and Bill are good. I was looking for Chelsea,
- 15:37Speaker 2: you know. So we're going to be there on Thursday
- 15:42Speaker 2: and Friday.
- 15:43Speaker 3: You know, as of this recording, I mean, we're almost
- 15:47Speaker 3: sold out of our tasting event in Tyson's Corner and.
- 15:49Speaker 2: We had to get a bigger we had to get
- 15:51Speaker 2: to get a bigger room and it's crazy numbers. So
- 15:53Speaker 2: that that's good.
- 15:54Speaker 3: We're going to be heading towards Huntingson Beach in Calabasas, California.
- 15:58Speaker 3: We're going to be in the San Francisco area. We're
- 16:00Speaker 3: going to be in a couple of places we're gonna
- 16:01Speaker 3: be Grand Rappids and Detroit up there in Michigan Motown, Motown, Listen,
- 16:06Speaker 3: there's I'm really excited about all the places that we're
- 16:11Speaker 3: reaching out to and all the docks that we're going
- 16:12Speaker 3: to be talking to. I think it's going to be
- 16:14Speaker 3: really cool thing to do and a really interesting thing
- 16:16Speaker 3: to you know, because we come back, we're like, Okay, well,
- 16:19Speaker 3: the doc and Detroit is having it may not be
- 16:21Speaker 3: you know, the same issues as the dock out in Calabasas, California.
- 16:25Speaker 3: It's just it's so similar, very true, even though completely
- 16:28Speaker 3: different areas of the country.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I get excited when, you know, forty five people look
- 16:33Speaker 2: at our subject matter and are honest with themselves and go, yeah,
- 16:36Speaker 2: I could probably improve on something. And if you don't
- 16:40Speaker 2: think you can, you're wrong. We talk to people that
- 16:43Speaker 2: you know, produce three and a half million dollars, they
- 16:45Speaker 2: make a you know, one point two their fee for service.
- 16:49Speaker 2: I mean, you can go on and on and on. Well,
- 16:51Speaker 2: those are the things a lot of people complain about,
- 16:53Speaker 2: thinking they can never get out of insurance. They can never.
- 16:56Speaker 2: But those people that are crushing it still have challenges. Yeah,
- 17:00Speaker 2: people with fifty five percent overhead, still have challenges.
- 17:05Speaker 3: I mean, there's always there's always room for improvement after
- 17:07Speaker 3: a certain level. You know, it can be a little
- 17:09Speaker 3: bit more and a little bit more and a little
- 17:10Speaker 3: bit more. But uh, I mean, I know I'm perfect.
- 17:13Speaker 3: But for most people, I get it.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, But no, we've got We've got
- 17:17Speaker 2: a lot of good events to close out the year, share,
- 17:20Speaker 2: share some really important subject matter with a lot of
- 17:23Speaker 2: people from around the country and get different views, and
- 17:25Speaker 2: ultimately that leads to our topics. We let the dental
- 17:28Speaker 2: industry basically determine what our topics are with conversations. We
- 17:31Speaker 2: have things to get brought up and so unfortunately, firing
- 17:37Speaker 2: patients and staff and team. It's part of being a
- 17:39Speaker 2: practice owner, it's part of being a leader. Really, not
- 17:42Speaker 2: a lot of ways to get around it.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Yep, So Casey, don't forget. If anybody needs to want
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