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SEC Insider Hit: The New Norm? What will the extended CFP look like? · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: Will Trinidad Chambliss be in Heisman contention in November? We're
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  Speaker 1: Camrio Taylor save Jeff Levy's job? A true sophomore quarterback
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  Speaker 1: that started two games but all in all didn't play
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  Speaker 1: that much And you can kind of throw away the
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  Speaker 1: Trinidad be still being the hunt for the Heisman in November?
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  Speaker 1: Can Camaro Taylor save Jeff Levy's job? Holy Mary ol
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  Speaker 1: because they want to win, and and other schools. But
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  Speaker 1: you would you would actually think that more people would
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  Speaker 1: you know, to to make changes or do what it
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  Speaker 1: like when Mullen was a coach, Cohen was a coach,
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  Speaker 1: Schaeffer was a coach, you know.
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  Speaker 2: O'Connor.
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  Speaker 1: and you should be. But this is this is an
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  Speaker 1: interesting experiment that's going on in in Starbull so and
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  Speaker 1: then nobody's heard or seen Jeff Levy or Zack Sulmon.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're the only school in the league that
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  Speaker 1: that's not pressing the flesh and cultivating relationships and so on,
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  Speaker 1: which is a head scratcher. That's what everybody does in
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  Speaker 1: every business. Well should too. And now old miss has
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  Speaker 1: had a hell of a whatever they call it road
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  Speaker 1: ReBs Tour. They've been everywhere from Charlotte, North Carolina to Cleveland, Mississippi,
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  Speaker 1: which is Pete Golding's old stomping grounds. He's not from there,
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  Speaker 1: but he played at Delta State. Right South Louisiana guy,
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  Speaker 1: but played at UH at Delta State, they claim him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when I really got to get you know, last if
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  Speaker 1: y'all want to get to know so to speak, Golding. Now,
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  Speaker 1: granted he's been talking to the press all the time
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  Speaker 1: since he became the head coach a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: after the Battle for the Golden Egg last year, right,
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  Speaker 1: but the the interview that he did last year at
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  Speaker 3: That that.
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  Speaker 1: He walked you through Lane's whole blueprint, I mean, gave
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  Speaker 1: you the whole blueprint. Was an unbelievable interview. Uh, the how, who, what, when,
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  Speaker 1: where and why. I watched it more than once and
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  Speaker 1: I talked about it and I thought it was incredible. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: you don't get them, you know, Laine had the saving
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  Speaker 1: deal where you only got the coaches, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: once a year now during the college football playoff, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he was already the head coach in a month he was.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to say, you get them in the
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  Speaker 1: college Football Playoff, but that's a different deal because Lane
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  Speaker 1: was already gone.
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  Speaker 1: of Bounds with bow Bounds. Bar two was on the
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  Speaker 1: show three years ago talking about the nine game SEC
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  Speaker 1: conference schedule. Now we have it your team as you're listening,
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  Speaker 1: All sixteen teams will play nine conference games. How is
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  Speaker 1: that gonna look? What impact will it have? What will
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  Speaker 1: it do to the league until we expand the College
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  Speaker 1: Football Playoff after this season? How many teams will actually
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  Speaker 1: make it. Knowing that evidently we're gonna take some G
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  Speaker 1: five teams, that eats up at least one, if not
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  Speaker 1: two spots. Notre Dame has the easiest schedule. I mean
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  Speaker 1: noted they said, we've got you, We'll trump you to
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  Speaker 1: any other, you know, Power four team. They've got a
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  Speaker 1: cake walk to the college football playoff. That's another spot taken.
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  Speaker 1: So then then we're getting into there's not many spots
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  Speaker 1: left if Notre Dame and one to two G five
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  Speaker 1: teams are gonna make it. This was Dave bar two
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  Speaker 1: three years ago talking about if the SEC goes to
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  Speaker 1: a nine game conference schedule, what did you make of?
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  Speaker 1: And you went on a tear yesterday in between your
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  Speaker 1: hoops betting on Twitter, which was awesome. I love it
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  Speaker 1: when you get all fired up. What did you make
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  Speaker 1: of not just Dellinger, but of where we are going here?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe going to nine, maybe standing at eight.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So basically everything that I could think of that
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  Speaker 6: I was tweeting about yesterday. So the first thing I
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  Speaker 6: did is I took what Ross had posted in terms
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  Speaker 6: of what the three teams are projected for, you know,
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  Speaker 6: three permanents now as for going from eight to nine,
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  Speaker 6: you know, regardless of which three teams they are. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: let's put that aside. Which three teams and Nick complaining
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  Speaker 6: about it, Let's put that aside just for a second.
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  Speaker 6: There's a few things that I have about that is
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  Speaker 6: number one. Why if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, right now, it doesn't matter what anybody does. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter what the schedule is for State or
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  Speaker 6: or miss It doesn't matter what it is for Alabama
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  Speaker 6: or Auburn. Everybody is going to complain about it, right,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. Everybody's gonna complain about it. Change, no
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  Speaker 6: change one of the things college. Unless you win a
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  Speaker 6: national title in the SEC, everybody's complaining about the season
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  Speaker 6: for the most part. Right. So, but if it ain't broke,
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  Speaker 6: don't fix it. You're at eight. You've been winning national titles,
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  Speaker 6: that's the goal. And now that we have expanded playoffs,
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  Speaker 6: you want to go to nine and limit your opportunities.
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  Speaker 6: That's dumb because also when you go to nine, you
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  Speaker 6: can't go back. So we're in the middle of change
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  Speaker 6: of going from four to possibly twelve team playoffs, and
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  Speaker 6: your conference wants to make a change right in the
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  Speaker 6: middle of a major playoff change that doesn't seem very
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  Speaker 6: bright to me. I don't care what the money is.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know what's going to come out of this
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  Speaker 6: new playoff system, and to make a change, basically you're
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  Speaker 6: changing lanes in the middle of the intersection with traffic
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  Speaker 6: coming the other way. I don't think that's a very
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  Speaker 6: good idea. I agree, because once you go there, you
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  Speaker 6: can't come back right and you don't know how this
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  Speaker 6: is going to play out now if you make the change.
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  Speaker 6: Here's a few things I think that are The one
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  Speaker 6: wild card is which game are you changing on your
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  Speaker 6: non conference right? Is Mississippi State adding Tech and dropping
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  Speaker 6: the Bahama School of Dentistry or are they adding Texas
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  Speaker 6: and dropping Arizona. Okay, there's a huge difference there in
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  Speaker 6: terms of strength of schedule. There's a huge difference there,
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  Speaker 6: in terms of projecting wind totals. Are you draw are
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  Speaker 6: does the SEC want to go total isolationism and go
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna build a big wall around the SEC. We're
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  Speaker 6: not playing anybody but us in here, and we're fine
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  Speaker 6: on our own, which would totally utterly suck. Okay, and
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  Speaker 6: I don't think they'll do that, but if they don't,
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  Speaker 6: their strength of schedule rankings are gonna beat through the
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  Speaker 6: roof their injury rate. It's already the highest injury rate
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  Speaker 6: per snap in college football the SEC. With eight conference games,
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  Speaker 6: you go to nine. Guess what, more bigger, faster, guys
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  Speaker 6: hitting each other. You're gonna have a higher injury rate
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  Speaker 6: than you already have right now. You're gonna have less
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  Speaker 6: top twenty five teams. Why because you're beating yourself up
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  Speaker 6: unless you make the non conference super ky. And if
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  Speaker 6: you have less top twenty five teams, that means you're
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  Speaker 6: taking your safe itself out of playoff opportunities. Adding that
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  Speaker 6: ninth game without making your non conference terrible is putting
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  Speaker 6: yourself in a position with the new playoff format that
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  Speaker 6: I think is a poor one.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that was part two three years ago on
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  Speaker 1: the non game conference schedule in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: You now have it.
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  Speaker 1: Plus the mandated Power four non con is still in place,
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  Speaker 1: so all of you will.
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  Speaker 2: Play ten Power four.
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  Speaker 1: Games, ten Power four games and now down to two
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  Speaker 1: non cons against whoever, Right, Tennessee Tech or Florida Atlantic
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  Speaker 1: or Tennessee State, Youngstown State. I'm looking at the first
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  Speaker 1: week of the SEC, Arkansas plays North Alabama. You know
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  Speaker 1: UA PB, Kent State and South Carolina, Furman and Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: You'll know where we're going there. But now you have
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  Speaker 1: ten power for games. The question is what can you
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  Speaker 1: do there? You got to go to and oh in
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  Speaker 1: the whatevers G five's one, double a's, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know what they're called, D two and then what First
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  Speaker 1: of all, the physicality goes up. BAR two has already
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  Speaker 1: told us it's the most injured conference. Then you add
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  Speaker 1: a game, and so how do you navigate that. There's
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  Speaker 1: just there's a lot going on. And again we won't
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  Speaker 1: know all the answers after year one. We'll need at
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  Speaker 1: least three or four years maybe to get an idea
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  Speaker 1: the who, what, where, when and why on this the
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  Speaker 1: impact it'll never go back once they decided, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this group may regret it. I guess with an expanded
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  Speaker 1: all the way up to twenty four, you're you're definitely
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  Speaker 1: fine because I mean you'll take a boatload of SEC teams,
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  Speaker 1: So you'll just have a ton of nine and three
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  Speaker 1: ten teams going to the College Football Playoff. It'll look again,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to wire our brains around the NFL
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  Speaker 1: where nine and eight now you play seventeen games. For
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  Speaker 1: the majority of my life it was sixteen, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little bit less than that early. But and we've
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  Speaker 1: had teams with losing records seven and nine, eight and
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  Speaker 1: eight when we were playing sixteen go eight to nine
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  Speaker 1: can still go, but you'all know where I'm going. Nine
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  Speaker 1: and eight can get in the playoffs, and ten and
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  Speaker 1: seven and so it's going to be tough for us
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  Speaker 1: as guys to We're not good on change, and especially
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  Speaker 1: on sports.
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  Speaker 2: We cap out at about sixteen years old on.
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  Speaker 1: What we think and kind of the landscape of sports,
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  Speaker 1: both our skills and everybody else's, and then what we
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  Speaker 1: think about the teams that we love. So I think
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be wild. But once they expand
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, you should be fine. I guess you could
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  Speaker 1: have up to good lord.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when you get to twenty four conferences.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, are you gonna have seven teams sometimes
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  Speaker 1: eight teams that and is it gonna trickle down to
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  Speaker 1: eight and four?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think it could.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you have teams in the top twenty five
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  Speaker 1: that are ranked eighteenth, twenty first, and twenty fourth that
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  Speaker 1: are that don't have just magnificent records. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what they're gonna come up with.
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  Speaker 1: I would think that the eventually the big ten in
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  Speaker 1: the SEC get on the same page and they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna slowly get there sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, go straight to twenty four, do sixteen
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of years, maybe skip twenty, maybe grab
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  Speaker 1: it for another and then go to twenty four. You know,
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  Speaker 1: TV inventory, they won't live sports. They're chomping at the bit.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. Will we go to
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  Speaker 1: eight and four college football playoff teams? That would not
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  Speaker 1: surprise me. If you go to twenty four teams, stend
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  Speaker 1: it one more.
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  Speaker 2: You got to fill.
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  Speaker 1: I think eight and four, Big ten and eight and
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  Speaker 1: four SEC could be in play. I don't know about
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve and ACC. I'm not sure that that's that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be enough pop and sizzle.
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  Speaker 2: It depends. I guess who's on the committee. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know why they're still doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you've got two super leagues already you do,
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  Speaker 1: it's called the SEC in the Big Ten, and then
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  Speaker 1: you've got two pretty good leagues. I mean they're still
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch. They still have some good games throughout
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  Speaker 1: the year in the Big twelve, in the ACC, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: They have a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Super leagues have some stinkers, but the
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve and ACC have a bunch. But they've got
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  Speaker 1: some sizzle and some fun games too. Could this get
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  Speaker 1: to the point where eight and four teams make a
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  Speaker 1: twenty four team college football playoff? I want to say yes,
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  Speaker 1: just to give you a you know, guy, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't they Well, okay, are you going
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  Speaker 1: to have six to seven Big Ten and SEC teams?
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  Speaker 2: So you just gobbled up fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: Spots, right, two mid majors, but then you still have
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  Speaker 1: ten spots and Notre Dame sent two two mid majors
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  Speaker 1: and Notre Dame. I'm at seventeen, right, and then we
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  Speaker 1: have seven spots to fill out the ACC and Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Like last year at three to four a piece, Bazoo
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  Speaker 1: and Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Rate and five last year.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they finished well, Banderbilt and Notre Dame were
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  Speaker 1: the ones that that won ten games and got left out.
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  Speaker 2: They had been slam dunkin obviously. Yeah, I mean they're
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  Speaker 2: they're so in, They're in in.
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  Speaker 1: They won, And both of those were capable although not
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  Speaker 1: like super great team but not bad at all. They
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  Speaker 1: were both capable of winning first round games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have played James Madison right or two
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  Speaker 1: Lane or Boise or SMU. These are teams that have
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  Speaker 1: made the College Football Playoff the last couple of years
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  Speaker 1: that that were not that got in bear you know that,
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  Speaker 1: good lord, that were snoozers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, those games aren't interesting.
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  Speaker 5: How many times does it take for that to like really.
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  Speaker 2: Hammer home what's really going to like? Do we need
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  Speaker 2: to keep doing this? Are they going to roll this
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  Speaker 2: out year after year after year?
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  Speaker 1: I think the question that you're asking is will the
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  Speaker 1: SEC and Big ten, along with the TV network still
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  Speaker 1: be as we expand still be okay with G five
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  Speaker 1: teams in it? That's I think, what or do they
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  Speaker 1: want to fund a final four and just say we'll
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  Speaker 1: fund it. It'll be more interesting, it makes more sense.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do a final four of G five teams. So
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  Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina can play Lola at Fayette and Troy can
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  Speaker 1: play Memphis in a final four people would bet on it,
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  Speaker 1: watch it over christ Holidays because I promise they will
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  Speaker 1: because you're bouncing around, you're doing things, and if football
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  Speaker 1: is on, it's at least in the background, and it'll
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  Speaker 1: be on bars and restaurants throughout the country blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 1: which is also they they take that into account too.
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  Speaker 2: Vegas will get plenty of action and the eyeballs would
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  Speaker 2: be there, right, and you still get some money.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know, maybe they just say we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna allow him to be in and we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna have interesting games most of the time when they're
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  Speaker 1: in depends on how many. Uh It's like UNLV, Like
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  Speaker 1: what if Dan broke he won ten last year. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so let me walk you through this, Dan Mullen UNLV
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  Speaker 1: in an expanded college football playoff. If he goes ten
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  Speaker 1: and two, he's in. But let's be honest, who all
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  Speaker 1: can UNLV beat Maybe a Big twelve or ACC team
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  Speaker 1: that slips in absolutely can possibly surely, well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna look at if you're looking at that eighteen
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  Speaker 1: to twenty four range, Okay, fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean if they somehow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the twenty to twenty four range, eighteen to twenty
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  Speaker 1: five four range, I guess and a unlv at no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Ten and two could San Diego State, Coastal, Troy, Tulane,
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  Speaker 1: La La Fayette, Southern miss if they get rolling? Florida
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  Speaker 1: Atlantic has money and population and enrollment.
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  Speaker 2: Who am I missing?
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  Speaker 1: Could a MAC team get Yeah, a MAC team two
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  Speaker 1: is capable of going ten and two, eleven and one
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  Speaker 1: and get like Toledo or something. And Jason Kandal been
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  Speaker 1: able to get out of Toledo? Why has it PJ
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  Speaker 1: Fleck been able to get out of Minnesota? These are
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  Speaker 1: was good. With part two, oh yeah, we'll go with
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  Speaker 1: Steve Das on Michigan versus SEC culture. This was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side, we're going to do this. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be really good, some great audio, all right, and
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  Speaker 1: so we'll take a look at that. On the other side,
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  Speaker 1: mister d X says ole miss could beat the old
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  Speaker 1: Miss Rebels. Oh wow, UNLV yeah, yeah, yeah, UNLV could
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  Speaker 1: beat the old Miss Rebels. I don't think so nope, no,
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  Speaker 1: but to where we were going, like, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how at twenty four. I really need to know the
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  Speaker 1: quality of our lack thereof of the eighteen to twenty
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  Speaker 1: four on the back end that get in, and how
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  Speaker 1: many are going to be nine and three teams and
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  Speaker 1: how many are going to be eight and four teams
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  Speaker 1: and how many people be G five and how that
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  Speaker 1: looks so that if the UNLV and Dan Mullen win
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  Speaker 1: ten games like they did last year, or once this
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  Speaker 1: goes into effect, they'll have to play the first round game.
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  Speaker 2: You got more buys on the front end, sure you
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  Speaker 2: could get matched up with another G five, That's true.
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  Speaker 2: I guess that would be the deal.
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  Speaker 1: If UNLB plays Coastal or two lane or like TCU
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  Speaker 1: gets in, sure I think you would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could beat TCU. Yeah, like if NC State got.
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  Speaker 3: In, Yeah, well i'd still be.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of a stretch, but possible. Barry
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  Speaker 1: Odom beat Power four teams. I don't know if Dan
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  Speaker 1: beat one last year, We'll have to look at that.
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