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New Gen 10 Region: Everything We Know · Hidden Power: A Pokemon Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Hidden Power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a Pokemon podcast and today on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be talking about these new leaked images for the Generation 10 map.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These images are, I think, all things considered pretty high fidelity and we're going to be going through each location in this map to try to understand what we could be seeing in Pokemon wins and wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Dusty Go Goat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today I'm joined by Hoops and Hip Hop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello and soul silver art.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's from his bathroom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, it's, it's legal season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's legal season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of this new, all of these new images dropped over the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to break all of this down with you guys today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do we, I think it's beautiful first of all, but I,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, what we're looking at is the taro leak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is part of the taro leak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is literally just the genten part that the leak or never released, it's just a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what we're looking at is very similar to like the paldea and even the galer like cut, not even cut but development images of the map.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the hand,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is hand drawing or you know like yeah, they drew out the region beforehand And I think that's what this is the same kind of thing
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think that this is earlier than all of the other map leaps, leaps that we have, really, okay, that's, yeah, okay, so I think, because I'm under the assumption, I mean, yeah, for anyone who maybe, like there's been there are there have been images floating around all year long that we've been referring to, but there are pretty low quality and see, I think what that's really helpful, so because seeing, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, seeing this now as, like, concept art, um, yeah, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually interesting because, not all, so the concept art is higher fidelity and gives us more detail about what could be playable in wins and wins, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we could see the details of like little outcodes and mountains.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right like we've seen game play from the main you know trailer of wins and waves and we can see mountains and peaks and all sorts of locations in the distance this kind of gives us a better understanding of what maybe some of those specific locations could be but because it's concept art
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of that stuff could be scrapped, you know, and so that those images that have been, and I think I do have them here, but those images from earlier in the year, those actually could be, where's the image?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, this is, this is like, like, what would you call this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like in the media?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is like in game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the old map if you're, if you're watching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it might be actually newer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it might be newer timeline of development.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the difference is that I'm seeing, uh, this is this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'll also set up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're under the assumption.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like it's, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're under the assumption that this generation 10 game wins and waves is going to be based on Southeast Asia, Indonesia, um, and all these other, all these other regions and countries that are within that space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really interesting to think that like there's multiple regions or multiple countries being represented in the playable map of generation 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in I guess what I'm noticing here is that in this concept art like if if this new leaked image is concept art.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually shows in certain regards more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of the region.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess there's like there's more there's like a larger certain parts of the map.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can see more of and I'm now wondering I'm like have those locations been scrapped or I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going down a bunch of tangents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, go for a hoops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what's important to think about because I mean, I kind of naturally had the same thought as well that like this is the latest look at the map so this must be the newer version so it's it is important to know that it possibly could be the other way around and the one that's actually like modeled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it does kind of make sense that that would be the newer version because they've gone from a hand drawn image to a computer model of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's good to that's good to consider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless though, what is important here I think is the fact that both of these versions of this map are consistent with one another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which basically tells me that this iteration of the region has essentially successfully gone from one stage of development to the next, without much changing, like there are changes, there are differences, they're not like one, but like they're consistent with each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that tells me that like, okay, yeah, this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this more or less will probably be what we see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They probably won't be like a giant change or anything like that as far as the region goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think also what we see is certain islands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can see a little bit more clearly what kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Byrane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're kind of terrain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll kind of habitat That we'll be able to see on those locations like the central island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've understood it was a like a volcano That's all we can kind of see from the top-down view But in the concept art there is you know the the west side of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: of this island is of is like a cragi rocky volcano but there's also a lot of jungle there's some like field lands there is also um yeah there's all you know a big there's also a bunch of like island chains that kind of extend the island out into the water and so you have like some like sandy i think that's a coral reef is what kind of what i'm seeing
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[SPEAKER_01]: like that's like the details were really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can you can actually in this concept art, you can see the underwater parts where we'll be able to dive, which is super cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks to be kind of like what you would expect where these areas seem to be attached to the islands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: What that says to me is that you might not necessarily be able to just dive when you're out in the middle of the ocean but there will be designated areas like around the map that you will be able to dive and they might they might be reef areas next to the actual islands themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in a sense that's actually like pretty par for the course with diving because diving has always been like you find a certain place that has dark water and you can dive there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of it's probably going to be like a more modern version of that which is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's so many details that i'm seeing now that i actually kind of peer at this map and like there's yet an extension of what you're saying like you can see i guess like yet you can see the details are like intention for what would be in the water areas because with with this original map it's just i mean they're just like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like physical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're blobs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got land or sea and I think a big question for me ever since that first wins in Wave trailer has been like what is Like what is it gonna make this game different from Scarlet and Violet and I think about the waves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think about the power of the you know Of the region, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah wins and waves, but I'm like what what are we gonna be able to see?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there is there going to be anything to fill out the ocean and it seems like yeah, there really is like pretty much
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what what what I am kind of wondering about and this would be so so sick if it worked like this because like right here we can see the the diving coral reef areas that are like transparent under the water to where like we can we can see them like with
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like from above.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so I'm wondering like what if it was what if it's like that in the game where like the places you can dive you can like visibly see underwater like areas So it's kind of like like the water there's intrigue for you to actually swim under the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah Yeah, and honestly like that would be kind of insane because I feel like
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[SPEAKER_00]: just in general like you never really get to like, it like in video games you never really get to look down in water like that usually have to like just dive first so to be able to see the areas from the surface of the water and kind of like look down and like
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[SPEAKER_00]: like imagine like you're just surfing along and you see like like you see like Pokemon like swimming under you or you see like this cool cave area that's in the water that you like oh I want to go check that out like that kind of feels like that could be a possibility and that would just
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[SPEAKER_00]: be that would just take this game to a whole new level in my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, you know, it's like, it's like, when in all the Pokemon games, when you, you're kind of just rolling the dice, you're flip it a coin every time you get an encounter a random Pokemon appears and it could be a rare Pokemon will just appear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now I'm imagining.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In this game, what we're likely to see are, you know, you could maybe spot a rare Pokemon like a Mirage in the distance, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could see it on the ocean water, but it can escape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it's not static to that one location.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It can now, maybe you see it and now it dives down into the water and now you've got to chase it into the water into its habitat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and that's not even that complicated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just like that's just that's like a that's just a byproduct or a symptom of this kind of game, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something you catch your eye and you make a decision, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm going to go this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that also implies seamless travel between the surface of the water and below the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not something we've seen because diving to this point has been like, oh, you want to dive and then it gives you a loading screen and then you're under water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This and it very much makes sense because this is obviously a modern game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This could imply the ability to dive on the fly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: decide you want to go underwater and you just like hit the control sticker whatever you hit a button and now you're underwater and it's totally seamless, no loading screens and you can go right away to that cave that you saw from the surface or you can go to that shiny luminion that you saw swimming underneath you, luminion evolution, luminion evolution, yes, yes, absolutely, that could
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get my hopes up because this is a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a lot to this beta map, but it really does feel like that could be this game's thing because we know it's going to we already know it's going to have diving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like the in terms of how they implement it, this could be kind of like this
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[SPEAKER_00]: not only like you can you can go in and out of the water like seamlessly you can dive and you can come back up to the surface seamlessly and you're just like you're literally kind of like transitioning between land and sea like the whole time like all throughout the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can support it with a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, well, maybe not a lot, but a few things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you, get number one, just practically like these islands in real life are known for like crystal clear water that you can just look straight through and under and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love you seeing pictures of the region, but like there's water around the islands that you can just see
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[SPEAKER_02]: clearly for miles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say miles, but you know, like, oh, I'm a ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's very normal for this like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is a crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This shot right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to picture of a, it's just like a still from like an Instagram reel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you can see, you can see the jungle on the background or just like the the forest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's a guy in a boat on the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, Aquamarine water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I've, we don't have this kind of water in New Hampshire and underneath, you can see all the fallen trees and rocks underneath the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if that's what we're talking about, I mean, that's stunning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually so cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I think right there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other picture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The, like, higher the one up higher there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you were going to, you were going to say something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like right here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can just see right through the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's like some grass, you can see some like algae or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think what I think what this does for me is it kind of, I don't know, it's like when we think about when we think about water, I guess as humans, right, when we think about water, we're like, we're not, we haven't evolved to swim with gills like fish, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not for us that water is a barrier, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you have a tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in a Pokemon game, yeah, same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Water is a barrier until a certain point in the game when you get access to surf, and then you can traverse it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's some, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think just seeing this picture of this boat or just of seeing this picture, and where you can see so clearly into the water seamlessly,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess I'm imagining this seamless gameplay that we're talking about as parallel to what we can actually see into the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if we can see as clearly above the water as we can underneath the water, then like when we go back to the map, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what we've all been doing is thinking, okay, so the only playable area is really just the islands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's care about the islands, where the islands look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But really the way we should be thinking about it is literally everywhere that every single spot on this map is playable Because you can go underwater and there's secrets to be found.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's tunnels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's spawns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's items.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's treasure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's there could be other dungeons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There could be under you know, I'm saying there's caves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything even in the water
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[SPEAKER_01]: like we're just blue in this concept art.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go like there's something there there's so much content.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cool thing is that there's so many different like planes of exploration that we'll be able to do with this region.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's obviously the land and then we know there's under the water but there's also on top of the water and that's going to be a thing in and of itself because like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would guess that we're probably not going to be able to dive and like explore underwater on like every little bit of the ocean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably going to be like I said, doesn't make sure I designated I guess they're designated designated zones like those coral reef areas, however,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That means that the areas above the water that maybe you can't dive, it's not just going to be pure water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're going to put, they're going to put stuff out there that's going to make the surface of the water worthwhile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you might find a trainer or you might find someone on a boat that gives you a, has something interesting to say, you know, like there's going to be explore, there's going to be like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: an explorable biome there that will be its own thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have the land.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have the surface of the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have below the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we'll have in the air for because I mean, Pokemon winds like, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's impossible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and then if you want to get really nitty-gritty, there's also like the different biomes themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is so cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a story of the desert area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a snowy mountain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there are so many different like little pockets of exploration on this map.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That I feel like really are going to make this super fun to explore because you're not really I feel like you're not going to get bored like you're going to be like starting off on this like main island that's going to give you like the basic like tropical vibe and then you're going to see the volcano and you're going to want to go there and then you're going to see the water and you're going to want to surf on the water and then you're going to want to dive into the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after you're done diving on the wire, you're gonna see that snowy mountain in your way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I want to go there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're gonna see the desert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let's check that out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just so many new, like different things that are gonna, like peak your interest and keep you entertained.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this idea of like just the seamless traversal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'm trying to...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost want to push back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hold to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I I guess I want to push back at the idea that like there'll be some parts of the ocean that we can't dive into because I'm like I feel like that almost I guess they could do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I guess I'm just trying to think like how would that would show up in the in the game and maybe would it I think rough waters in rough waters you can't go underwater because you're what I think what it's challenged above water possibly I think what it's gonna be I mean we can even see it right in this right in the shot
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That we just saw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can see it where you can see under the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what's going to happen is it's very, I mean, it might, it might seem that might sound like not fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you can't dive everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big bummer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, that's literally exactly how it is in actual, in like Ruby and Sapphire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you, you can only, there's these certain pockets where you can dive, but you can't dive everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really no different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I will say, yeah, yeah and what I will say is that like I don't think that's necessarily going to that would necessarily be a bad thing because on the map that we saw, it kind of to me, I read it as like there's these zones, like there's these zones where you can dive, if you don't know where you can explore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can't see that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of feel like it's almost going to be like, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: different like levels that you'll be able to enter into like there's like a different I kind of I kind of think about like legends arky as we're like you start in Jubilee village and then you say oh I want to go Sure to the field lands or the highlands or whatever and you like and then those those areas are so Explore their like yeah independent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it'll be like that where you're like oh there's an underwater area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go down there and then you dive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like it opens up and it's this whole other level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that does make sense, and again, if we're looking at this map, actually, before I continue, so do you know if, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this map that we're looking at right now looks kind of broken up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It almost looks like it's like been chopped up and then kind of superimposed upon it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is that true or is that true or is that better image?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, so I was going to mention it at some point, this is a good time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, this is a fan, like not recreation, but like collage, I guess you could say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to one of the other tweets I say, you can see like how it was spliced together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the one that put was put together, but these are all the.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you click on these closer, this is like a part of the water.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the island's missing the main big island.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of people are thinking a lot of this is the underwater areas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so at the concept that was almost made in layers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like it made in layers exactly interesting and if you go to the next one It's like they're for different terrain purposes even.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's oh my gosh It's very weirdly Peace together like a puzzle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then the fans kind of recreated it put it all together And I'm missing one image the one with the main big island.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have it, but It was the last image that was leaked as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, but yeah, so it there's
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[SPEAKER_02]: Potentially, a map where you see all those other islands and the water underneath there is the same as the other, you know, like the big one with the underwater areas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not to say that all that deep blue there isn't also exploreable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that those islands are just randomly put in this like collage image.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also the islands are bigger and smaller depending on how this person place them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they zoomed in or zoomed out kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm, I think I'm back on your guys and said because you can see in this concept art, there are designated like dark air.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like how we can see the coral part of the ocean has this like beautiful coral.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to call it coral, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has these like coral visuals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine that's like shallow water that you can dive underneath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's also dark spots and then that would be like you know those would be locations where you could really dive down and maybe that's like a new thing Maybe you can from the beginning dive underwater in the shallow areas, but to dive deeply is like a another level up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something that you have to you earn, you know Throughout your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you can see that all over the place
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In that deep, one area is right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can see that they have that little arch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can see those in the water as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's two more like around the map.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did see those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's really, really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think also about like, I don't know man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really starting to, I would love to see in Wins and Waves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what I think what I want the most or what I'm expecting is this
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: to control the environment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't mean just pressing a button like an HM.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like, like we're like, okay, all the discussion has been about like the battle system, the battle mechanics for generation 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think through some rumors and terror leak information, but also just from vibes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think turn based is going anywhere in wins and waves, but I think what I really hope, maybe the balance that we can strike
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is action-based elements, but in the overall, outside of battle, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, again, using your Pokemon to control maybe how you're able to navigate heavy waves when you're in the wide open ocean, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is surfing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is it a skill?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just floating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, are you, you know, do you have the ability to cut through waves?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we've always seen it in the anime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'd like to see, right, and yeah, these different types of diving.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we could see, this is cool.
24:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of like a mix because there's been a lot of, there's been rumors that the legends style of like catching Pokemon is finally going to make its way to the main core games with this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a sense of real timingists, kind of like you're talking about, where it's not affecting the battles, but it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: allowing the world to be more real-time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we could see certain elements like that, where it's like, okay, Pokemon, you can now catch them in real-time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think also with the battles, the battles themselves, and I think the battles will be tweaked somewhat, yeah, even if they are real-time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have to wait and see what changes lie there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think other things that they can also do are
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[SPEAKER_00]: allowing you to freely enter into an out of battles so instead of instead of the classic like you have to a Pokemon and encounter it or whatever I think we could see maybe a scenario where you can see the Pokemon and then when one is close enough to you it like notices you and runs up and a battle is just like instantly right there and like your UI pops up and it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: get you into battle mode and boom you're there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then it's like you don't have to hit from there, you don't have to hit like the run button to get out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just run away and then you're out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that in those legends games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think things like that will be could very well be implemented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would actually be a nice kind of balance because it would still give
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[SPEAKER_00]: the feeling of real time action without touching the sacred battle system that everyone loves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's also the underwater bit like how are we actually going to battle underwater like while diving you know it does feel I feel like we've talked about it but it feels like they might have to implement something
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[SPEAKER_02]: To the battle system in general, like the entire battle system or maybe there's like a specific way to battle underwater as well because it's like, why I guess you're just kind of floating there or yeah, where's your Pokemon like is it on the sea floor, you know stuff like that so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is a whole, that's a whole conversation because, I mean, not every Pokemon can live underwater, obviously, and I don't really, I don't really want to have a scenario where if I'm using a, if I'm using my pombon, I don't want pombon to just get like a, like a submarine, like a helmet or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something that happens actually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be kind of silly in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would want like I would just want like a situation where it's like, okay, if you dive, you've got essentially water Pokemon that you've got to use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would want it's like it's limiting it's limiting, but I just think if they like if they allow you to use every Pokemon but just put them in like a bubble or something that would feel I don't know that would that would feel kind of silly to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to kind of change how we think about it because I think we're like, I think I feel like the way the only way we've ever seen being able to control the environment with our Pokemon has been through like HM's mostly, right, or it's through these like ethereal ride Pokemon, like, you know, the magical Biberal that just appears and does everything for you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we need to think about like we think we need to I don't know like they could introduce
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like there's been things like Pokemon jobs, I believe it's called in the Galler region where like you put your Pokemon to work, like which is poke the Pokemon go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You drop your Pokemon in the Pokemon and the Pokemon go and they just do stuff and get you items.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's like something they could introduce where it's like, you know, yeah, like in Sun and Moon, where maybe you have like a ride pager and you press the button to call a Pokemon, but it has to be something that you actually capture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't- I don't know, like, would that be a problem?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember like when I remember when we're traveling for traveling it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are separate things.
29:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You would have a pool of, and maybe you have a pool.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You can only carry three Pokemon to do all of your HMs.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But then you're battling Pokemon are six Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like maybe in this region, this league because the environment is so difficult.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And those ride Pokemon could do multiple things, you know what I'm saying, but then you can have your normal six for battling.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see a stitch that seems like a pretty easy way to explain it.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but what was I gonna say?
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess like what would you guys think about that?
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I remember when let's go peek at you an EV came out It was like a meme everyone was like losing their mind over the fact that you had to capture Audish in order to battle Brock
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: do you guys remember that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's how this would be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be like forcing you to use just water Pokemon underwater, which I don't think it's very game-free like in general, because they don't, they like to like let you have tons of options.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think whoops, you might be out of luck with what you're not your home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be awesome if we actually got a designated ride Pokemon for diving, like, like, like, man-tiner, garados or whatever, and then like, maybe we're not able to use our party Pokemon because we're underwater, but we actually can fight with the one we're writing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, now, oh, that's garados is our battler, because we're writing with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, with our, no, I don't like you're totally right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're also swimming
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[SPEAKER_01]: But can I customize it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I choose?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I choose M polion?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I use Gekwa?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I use that as my as my HM?
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's cool.
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're right.
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dude.
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: This is good.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So in X and Y, they introduce sky battles, right?
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And that belt's stupid because you're like, well, I only have one Pokemon and it's optional.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even fleshed out and there's no, you know what I'm saying?
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But what if like when you're underwater, like you said, you can only use a select amount of, there's like a 100, there's a pool of 100 Pokemon that you can use.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're flying, when you're soaring, I think yeah, when you're soaring right now, and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, you can battle these hordes of flying types, but you could send out whatever Pokemon you want.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll just be floating on this like a three real cloud.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But that would be fun in this game.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that's actually kind of fun.
32:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But you basically have different sets of Pokemon that you can hold on to you for,
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: depending on whatever, you know, do that's kind of cool because now I'm thinking about like Ocarina of time or like Zelda games where it's like, you need a different loadout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are different loadouts for different types of gameplay that you might encounter.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you go towards a volcano, where in the volcano area, it's hot.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You maybe your grass types can't exist there.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Most Pokemon can't exist there.
32:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are certain Pokemon rock type ground type fire type steel type that can poison types that can endure the heat of the fire biomes isn't that I mean I feel like that is I mean kind of an element that I think we're missing
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: if you've got what they've done with the PC box essentially your PC box is in your backpack now so you can literally swap out any Pokemon at any point in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right guys it's that time of the show where we get to open up some awesome Pokemon cards brought to you by your sponsor awesome CCG it is the 30th year anniversary and with that there are a ton of new Pokemon cards and sets and collections this is the was the poster collection and it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are legendary birds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I spy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Articuno Zapdos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh I don't even know am I gonna open this yeah, I am here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna pop them open here They are she's dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was playing mystery dungeon and Zapdos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty scary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zapdos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zapdos beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on camera zoom in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me zoom in zoom zoom zoom zoom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zapdos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wall trace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These cards are so sparkly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally insane.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We were shocked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last time we were opening up these cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I even tell you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I even tell you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so what I got last time?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got we got a Pikachu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a chunky two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh snap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a chunky tube but we got the Ken suga mori.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pikachu.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, that's so cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the James Turner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pikachu Aren't you lucky so so so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's got him in the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got him with their so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the only two that I actually wanted you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this poster collection?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we even looking at here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is in changes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do I cannot believe how big this is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is crazy
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll send this to you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll send this to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, and then all the cards are on the back.
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow, dude.
34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it's just the art.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to have to look at this later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put this right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put this right here.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: This is insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little overwhelmed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a lot of space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's open up some Pokemon cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got three packs right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's crack them open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I listen, there's no cackle on on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no cackling on whoops this guys can't but I will say the the illustration rare versions of the legendary birds are beautiful yes I love that they're getting so much
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love oh we get the hungry Pikachu the Pikachu so and every pack you get a new Pikachu There's a different Pikachu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's 30 Pikachu that you can get and you get a Pikachu in every pack And this is the hungry hungry Pikachu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually another really good one and on the back Wait Okay, right basic energy basic energy we got the Pikachu that's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna open up another pack right here
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see the other card that I want from this set is the Hissouian-Zerua.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, that one's beautiful too.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We literally could pull it right now.
35:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We got an ultra ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Dude, this is this is one of the uh, this is one of the retro cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooxie Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, this is like original Ken Sugamori art on a Pokemon card.
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like thunderstorms or like thunder clouds in the background
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's actually really nice this is the era that I remember from Pokemon the most so that's like that's a great pick up Well, we got zacian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the zacian that you want to see it Yeah, that's the one I was telling you guys about that where it made her look like a So give me your address and I'll send you some cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, do we get the autumn Pikachu?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the autumn Pikachu
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so cute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is my aesthetic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
36:43
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and on the last pack, what are we gonna get?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I want I want Scissor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want Tatar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want Metagross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want some old school Pokemon cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
36:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a drift loon at that one
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got to did it, what the heck?
36:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Surprisingly transformed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to did it, Carter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I love did it, now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got comolo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Resheram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the fat Pikachu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got his head stuck between the poles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stairwells.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, the railing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so stupid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much back to the episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, but I think that's a bad thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that I think that it's honestly ruined the intimacy that we all have with our teams in the sense whenever they introduce that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because this is why there's never a point in the game when you're like, man, I'm stumped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many, like we've talked for five years about how boring and non-challenging or un-challenging Scarlet and Violet is?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think part of that is that you're never on a point where you can't just swap in some new Pokemon from your party.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you always have a, you always have a helpline, you know?
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I run the green, I've had my life.
38:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But if it's not then it's not because like if you just have to go back to a town to get the different Pokemon out of your PC to advance That's not really a challenge in any way.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just annoying.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't think it's annoying though I think I think these video games can be a little bit annoying That's what makes a rewarding, you know, if something's a cakewalk then it's because of
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's a, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can get past it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a way you can get past it with what you have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fun to you know, I mean like, or getting something new around the area that can allow you to progress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like, Yeah, I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I hear you because like going back to the PC, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially in the in the older games traversos a lot slower.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that can feel like I don't think it's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's a problem, but I think Whatever traversals so easy nowadays like in Scarlet and Violet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like There's I can fast travel anywhere I want
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no there's no issue with going back to the PC and maybe like being able to I also think like I guess I'm thinking about the difference between like the main campaign I want the challenge in post game Yeah in post game I get access to 6G rotom whatever like I can connect to my PC and my Pokemon anywhere in the game
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[SPEAKER_01]: in postgame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But during the main campaign, I'm like, I know this is a side tangent, but I really don't like that you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the game's, I think Scarlett and Violet and Sword and Shield would be better if you couldn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In legends arseous, you can't, you have to go back to wherever to get all your Pokemon, you know, the ranch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I think it raises the stakes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's subtle, but it makes a difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a side tangent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I So that's fine I think those I think those older games are special because of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think that's a that's a big thing Because I think you don't have that intimacy with your team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like and anyone I think I think I think what you're saying is right But I think the the thing about it is that
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, that is totally determined by you in terms of like how intimate with your team you want to be or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not like the experience share for instance where the experience share is something that is forced on you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the PC box, it's like, okay, yeah, it might be in my pocket now to where I can switch in and out anything I want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there isn't some forced function that is like swapping auto swapping in my fainted Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but like if I want to option lowers the sticks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the option of being like if you're about to fight Giovanni and you can't just let me get some new Pokemon right or it's like well you're well you're going to have to do that either way if you need to like you need to like optimize your team or whatever the thing there becomes then like okay I'm going to have to do this either way would I rather just be able to do it on the fly or would I rather have to trek back to the Pokemon Center to do it like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think I hated doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but see, but that's the trade-off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, you can go back and heal up your team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The punishment is you have to walk all the way back and it's annoying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or what if you just, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one of my Pokemon is paralyzed, but I think I could do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I can be Erica right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know, and you take the risk and maybe you win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just saying I think that makes a better gameplay experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like there's actually, you know, you're actually in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can just snap your name for gems, I like that for gems.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that for gems.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the bosses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even in the blueberry academy, they did that thing with, um, draight and where you like had to use a specific team.
42:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's kind of the same kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you need to use this specific set Pokemon to beat this trainer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they do stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going back to, like, kind of, the...
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[SPEAKER_02]: origin of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These different difference would be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, not that, not that, not that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the loadouts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to imagine that maybe with this whole system where you could just get any Pokemon you want out of your bag out of your backpack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be like you would have like an underwater team and yes, you would go to the the volcano area you have your fire team and it's almost like you guys don't play Metroid, but in Metroid you have to have like a different suit to go into the fire Yeah, because you're suit handle it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of the same thing where it's like your poke your regular Pokemon can't handle it so you can swap out
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[SPEAKER_02]: This all kind of adds up together with if there were 300 new Pokemon in this game, you would be like, oh
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do I get to use all 300 new Pokemon or all of them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, like a good chunk of you play the game twice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I know you're saying, yeah, you could do that or you could have multiple teams that can only go in specific areas that make it a little more challenging for you where you're like, Oh, I have to pick these Pokemon to go into this specific area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, this is so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really easily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and that and that solves a kind of a classic thing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is known when people play Pokemon games is they go with their team of six or they even just go with like one Pokemon that they're just trekking through the game with and they just stick with that one Pokemon or stick with like their top three or whatever and they just play the whole game with just those Pokemon and that's not like a bad way to play per se but I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: having some times where it's like, okay, if I'm using a water tycoon, this is a cano and I have to go to this volcano area that is that my water type just cannot function in like you just can't use your water starter in the fire area imagine yeah or like you can imagine yeah you have to have a balanced team dude, I love this so much this is exciting yeah like I would imagine it kind of like
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[SPEAKER_00]: something like you're talking about soul or I also think about like breath of the wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I was like about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to go to the if you want to go to the icy area, like you're going to freeze and die if you don't have like a heat to the mixer or or close or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: In those situations like you could still have your water type, it would just maybe get like ship damage when it battles and it's It's moves wouldn't be effective or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to catch You like it so it doesn't take it take the option away from you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just kind of like nudges you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it says okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to catch a fire type or a ground type or something or you're gonna be in trouble
45:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just will kind of encourage you to try new things that you might have not otherwise before while still allowing you to have your best buddy that you love so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, no, I want, oh, yeah, keep going.
45:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just in the way.
45:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I just got it.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mind unlock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like one of the things that we again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this is the the promise of a Pokemon game that we've been seeing and exposed to since generation one with ashes adventure in the anime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have specific teams ready for specific matchups.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's going on this part of his journey, he's like, you know what?
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me return these.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the new team and that's something that we never do in the video games because it's just like we have our team their level 80 and we're good, you know?
46:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, if there are environmental resistances in the region, it essentially allows you to, like, you can still have your favorite Pokemon with you.
46:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It just kind of, again, makes you look at other options and try out new things.
46:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that sort of, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: hits the perfect just like balance of like what Pokemon is and what makes it great because everyone has their favorite Pokemon that's a huge factor of the series but then the other part of the series is adventuring out and discovering new Pokemon and this is a way to discover new Pokemon because it would make you catch and use Pokemon that you wouldn't otherwise catch and use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a perfect just like one-two punch and it also is anything But you keep going.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a delight.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a soul's and it wasn't in the list of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in Europe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what there's a list What whoops is saying though is that his underwater team is going to have to have like some kind of floaty like Scarlett Violet Yeah, to round back around around to that Yeah again like I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know it would limit the roster that you could have, but I just, I don't necessarily want my Pokemon F floaties or being a bubble or whatever.
47:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So it just makes me wonder.
47:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the limit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They do have like the ring that they sit on top of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not as bad because it's above the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know how a below the water that would work.
47:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And so like, I think I would like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just really interested to see how they pull that off
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I like it, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they are probably going to do something like where you they give you access to every Pokemon and they just they just put a put a store colonum or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would, I would love if they, I would love if they would explore something like I can't even really imagine how that would be because like with like the volcano area, it's easy to imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's really hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So your grass type is not going to do well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like with being underwater, if you even tried to send out anything other than a water type, it's like instant death.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like they could function at all like like a like knock-down will is is gonna like whimper in yeah, I Well there could be I guess there could be terrain, but then there could also be like You know some locations you just can't like maybe underwater is a little bit different and the same way that like You need to be a water type or I guess all the terrains
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[SPEAKER_01]: have their own set of circumstances and requirements and different Pokemon have pros and cons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But underwater is an extreme, and in the sky is an extreme, which is wind and wave, which would be either you can fly or you can swim or hold your breath underwater.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just way more restrictive.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this so much because I think what it does is it gives your Pokemon traits and qualities outside of battle, right?
49:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen a version of this in ZEA, we've seen a version of this in some other games, but like, I don't know, like pick your favorite Pokemon.
49:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You could say it's like silly because it's not good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just like a assumed to be fact like, you know, shadow JP or makes great videos friend of the show, but like he'll make a video that's like the worst Pokemon competitively or something or whatever And I'm always I'll I watch the videos because I think he makes good videos, but like I'm often those kind of videos I'm often thinking of myself, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are we ranking them on competitive?
50:16
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't play competitive, then that's irrelevant.
50:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's so many other ways to have these monsters be represented.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's a little too objective in one direction.
50:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and I'm, I'm, I brought up JPR just to, whatever, but I'm not picking on JPR.
50:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we like JPR.
50:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But like those kind of video, I feel like that's just like, I feel like that's how people view Pokemon right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Based on their, their, their,
50:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're battle pilots and I'm like that's a relive topic.
50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: The VGC meta from two years ago doesn't matter How good is the game this game?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This this is the game where that's all gonna change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't want to go too much into it It will be your all that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you stop it.
50:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like This is the game where I don't think there's going to be like competitive player versus player And so I think that they're gonna implement new things into how Pokemon are yes and
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind the idea of little pombon having a mask in a snorkel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do, I do like the idea of what dusty brought up though, because you could totally like map out all the different biomes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got, you've got water, you've got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: volcano, you've got forest, you've got jungle, snow, forest, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Junk, old, field, land is like a neutral ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and then you've got like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: underwater and then you've got sky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think you could take each one of those biomes and say, okay, in the volcano biome, ground types, rock types, fire types, they excel.
51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And then basically do that for every biome until you cover all the types.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it's like weaknesses and resistances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to your point dusty, the underwater would be like exclusive to water times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And flying or in the air would be exclusive to flying times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would sort of like single out those locations as special and that would tie into the snow waves due to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where it's like, it writes that the, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like you have to be special to like reach the wind legendary or the way legendary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What
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[SPEAKER_00]: so like thematically I could see that working and also again to just talk to about like like try not to Pokemon giving them new value etc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like you could have a lot of fun with the individual Pokemon as well because like say you have again like uh...
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[SPEAKER_00]: like depending on what their type combinations are, you can have a Pokemon that's like, because of its type combination, it actually is able to thrive in like all the different.
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's typing, it's typing just lines up, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, tropeous can fly, but it's also like, really good on land as well, or like, or like, a bit of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pelopher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pelopher is gonna be the goat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Peloporce can be the goat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Peloporce, it's water flying, so it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water, it can go under water
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this so much and I think about like the seed Pokemon to me sounds a lot like the seed sure Yeah, yeah, we're this you know the Pokemon could evolve differently depending on the location and I think about like I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of fun that some of my favorite moments in Pokemon games at least the earlier ones It's like okay, let me set it up when you go into the grass you expect to find just Land well in Pokemon when you go in the water you're finding tentacle you're finding
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably that's it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you're when you're using the fishing rod you get a horse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get a crabby when you're whatever You know what I'm saying when you're in the cave you get you get geodude and the coolest thing
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[SPEAKER_01]: what the coolest thing is when you're in an environment and you stumble upon something that seems to not make sense based on its type, but it makes sense and it's there because of its ecology, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the SEVI Islands, there is a route, there's a route where when you surf in the ocean, you can find hoppip because and that's weird because it's grass and flying type, but it's like a
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[SPEAKER_01]: blowing in the wind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's blowing from a nearby island in Celadon City.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So weird, but you can surf there and find grimer, which is a poison type, but it's like, okay, but it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's poison type.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a water type, but it is floating on the surface of the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's the kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that like I would love to see and I think has been missing from Pokemon games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see more of that kind of stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where your Pokemon has in is able to kind of like I guess like not communicate, but yeah, like you're able to utilize certain powers based on that specific Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about like Luminion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's a fish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who cares?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a fish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's water type.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's
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[SPEAKER_01]: then that's that's a valuable Pokemon in this game you're going to want that when you're underwater which we're seeing already as well yeah exactly that's that gets me this is exciting this is cool I do this is the idea like different loadouts is also super fun because I'm like this is my history this is my this team yeah like I think we should I think we should move on but yeah you're on
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we cracked something here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We cracked we cracked something because yeah, there's like there's tons of potential and it also applies perfectly to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so super fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They they definitely like Marketed it as like it's open world and you can go anywhere do anything you know I think you're supposed to be able to you know see the water and just jump right in so hopefully
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just you have a backpack and you can just swap out everything out and do it, but do you have fun want to be to have like multiple little teams like that that's that's a lot of fun and then also this is just the last point we've we talk about how.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about how this game is based on a region, a part of the world, that is comprised of multiple different countries and multiple different cultures and people and also animals and ecological, I don't know, just like every single island has something different to offer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've talked about how like this is kind of cool usually when we go to a Pokemon region or we go to an location.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one region and this could be could be a Pokemon game where maybe there's a couple different regions being represented right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit more outright, which is kind of fun because then that also would be I guess like exemplified or exaggerated even further Like it would make sense if we're also collecting different teams of Pokemon for these different islands for these different regions, you know, so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I just love this and this idea of infinity what what more is in fit, you know It's like forever making more and more teams make collecting more Pokemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, it's just fun Real quick.
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58:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Before we continue, let's start talking about, I want to break down some of the key landmarks that have actually been illuminated and kind of brought forth through this new image of the map.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Specifically, there are a couple unique towers that we could take a look at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These might be connected to gyms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could be connected to a lot of different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also have characters, character models that we could take a look at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also we can see a lot more of what would be the Australia, you know, it's like an island that would technically be part of the Pokémon equivalent of Australia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to talk about that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's start with these landmarks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you want to start off on first?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're all over the map.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These uh, towers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you can, I gotta zoom in here, but you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's a couple different ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I've been seeing these and I meant to bring these up earlier, but yeah, I've been seeing these little yellow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, towers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's something we could just want to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then there's also these like sauron towers, which are, yeah, it does look like the IS tower.
59:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, so there's almost two things here that we could take a look at.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I see those two.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't notice that.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I think those might be like barriers, I think those are buoys.
1:00:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like those could be the, on the previous map that we discussed before there were mentions about like the gyms, but then there were also mentions about the like the margin laboratories where we're going to fight bosses or something.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe it could be tied to something like that where it's like,
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have a rate battle or something like that.
1:00:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like that.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you mean the, you mean the Sauron towers?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you're saying?
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the other ones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think the Sauron towers are, well, I guess they could be, but I guess those Sauron towers could be the, the labs, but I was thinking they were maybe the gyms.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think a lot of the fandom has said that they're the gyms.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't personally lined it up because I haven't had time to look at them exactly, but I think
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be really cool if they were actually the margin like research labs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could just like see like weather, you know, like with towers.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like weather.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a weather.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a weather.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weather tower.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lightning bolts could strike them and power something.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, something like that.
1:01:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting that they're towers let's let's count these up just so we're super clear So the little boos the little yellow boos we got one up top in the set that's like north of the main island in the middle There's one to the east there's one yeah within that main island like within that like kind of first area
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's three and then there's one to the west or right off the coast of the main islands.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for at least That's one of the best here would be more yeah, throughout the rest of the sea the thing is they're all in the water, right?
1:01:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's interesting.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that's true actually.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It means you're in water.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could be kind of
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_00]: off, I guess I could be, I don't know that, like this part of the map is way less complete, or way less complete and less detailed than that other part of the map.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something to consider as well.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We might just see less detail because that part of the map is not done yet.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the very least, I think that shows you that
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That is something because there's multiple of them Got it across the map, so yeah Yeah, I really do wonder what it could be those are those when I just saw it now, so I don't I don't have too much on it Yeah, I'm I'm just I'm just kind of reacting this is yeah, how I don't think that's what it is, but this kind of looks like a
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Does this kind of show about?
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was thinking it was like a sunken pirate ship.
1:02:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just a little bit of rock, but it would be kind of cool if it was a pirate ship.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you should... Oh, there it is.
1:02:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to think they found like a shipwreck under the water.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's what you're looking at right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That someone thought that it is a shipwreck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
1:03:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, yeah, I guess what we should also do is count up the...
1:03:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, should we go island to island?
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, how long do we want this?
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to be should we go our own way?
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We should we can't we should count how many of the other towers.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:03:22
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one up here in the north east.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's another one that's two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three so there's three on that north eastern island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's three right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's two things right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think those are the towers.
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to count those.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go keep going south.
1:03:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And I see one on the Australia region.
1:03:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's another type of tower, but it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look the same.
1:03:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's four.
1:03:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's five on the island south of the...
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[SPEAKER_01]: of the main island that's five okay then there's six to the west there's seven seven so there's there's there's there's there's there's two on that main island sets that's that's seven total I don't think I see any up here no
1:04:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's probably one on the main island, right?
1:04:12
[SPEAKER_01]: There's gotta be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm counting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be the resort.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, this is definitely it.
1:04:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You could see the the peaks right here.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that you zoomed in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can see it.
1:04:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah zoom and enhance it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's eight.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get your eight right there.
1:04:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Jim.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight gems.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the only thing I want to maybe second guess now that's definitely one of them.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I just feel like they're too close together for some of them.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't feel like gyms to me, but eight is eight.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That is that is that's eight gyms.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I did this make sense because because like on this island over here, you have one right at the shore line and then you have one at the top of a mountain and then you have one that's like on another island at a far distance and so to me that kind of communicates, can you travel?
1:05:01
[SPEAKER_01]: From like I'm just imagining can you travel from the main island can you surf to this island?
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there's a gym now.
1:05:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you climb that's another gym now?
1:05:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you fly that's another gym like that there seems to be progression there?
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though they're kind of clump together because I agree they some of these are close together, but
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I also would say, again, that this is very like a beta or concept art, so I think that they could have moved them around, like quite sure.
1:05:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's always a possibility.
1:05:29
[SPEAKER_02]: But the concept is what they were.
1:05:31
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what they were.
1:05:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what we're concept is what we're looking at that there's going to be tower.
1:05:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting to have a tower gym to, you know, like,
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_02]: one's the last time we had every gym is like a tower.
1:05:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it is a is kind of fun?
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That is that is like I kind of like that though because where gyms are I don't know that feels kind of nice because now the gym now the gym can be whatever it wants to be independent from the environment like the environment is one thing in the world but now that gym could be whatever needs to be you know like if it's like a craggy icy location sure it might be a nice type
1:06:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But it could also be, you know, at least the theme and could be different.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
1:06:14
[SPEAKER_01]: There's enough space within the tower to kind of have like its own identity.
1:06:18
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other interesting thing about the towers is that apparently they are inspired by like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dutch architecture or there's a tower, there's a Dutch tower in Indonesia that they're inspired by, that was built by the Dutch because they were there, I guess.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know that very possibly could have nothing to do with the story, sure.
1:06:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But it could possibly have some implications on the wall because like where my mind goes is
1:06:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if the Dutch built this tower, the Dutch, I mean, that could be from some Netherlands region, but maybe it's also like, it could be tied to other regions, like maybe it's tied to Unova, because Unova has a Dutch connection.
1:07:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
1:07:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, there could be, there could be some fun little tidbits there that could be interesting.
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:07:13
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think it's, I think that's a,
1:07:15
[SPEAKER_02]: At the very least, it's just a really fun reference to the Dutch influence.
1:07:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And so instantly, I start thinking about Pokemon being Dutch.
1:07:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we could have, if there's something that is related to the Dutch in the game, then the Pokemon could also be that way.
1:07:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we already have Pombon, which is
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_02]: a European breed of dog.
1:07:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So the Dutch were there, I forget how long, but they basically were over the entire Indonesian archipelago, I guess, for like, I think hundreds of years, if I remember remembering correctly.
1:07:55
[SPEAKER_02]: like, it was a long time.
1:07:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's, it would make sense that there would be a lot of influence with it there.
1:08:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:08:02
[SPEAKER_02]: We also had these images here that you're looking at right now, which are from the terror leak as well.
1:08:06
[SPEAKER_02]: This was part of this leak that happened.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to see this stuff.
1:08:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is cool to see this stuff surface.
1:08:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It also crushes me, because I'm like, man, I know how much it has a bunch of the stuff, like, rip the band-aid off.
1:08:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to discover anything else.
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I will say so ready for there to be no more leaks this stuff and then the stuff that We're about we're gonna get into next with the characters is like like the only reason why it's kind of acceptable for me to look at is just because it's so I know yeah, but it's really toe in the line like if this was any more like finalized That is then I would not want to touch it, but I think it's
1:08:50
[SPEAKER_00]: there's a certain safety in the fact that it is all like it's a couple of years old.
1:08:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very unfinished.
1:08:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like current 24.
1:09:00
[SPEAKER_02]: That, um, yes.
1:09:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that tells you that like even if it does come out looking more or less like this, that there is still two years worth of time at least to where they can change things around,
1:09:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, personally for me, I feel like safer looking at this stuff just because it's like, yeah, like anything to change between now and when we get the games.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's yeah, I agree.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_01]: These towers are cool to look at.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it makes sense for a game, so open world with all these different terrains, to have towers as like waypoints.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We see this in a lot of different games for Pokemon who loves to go to Zelda.
1:09:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Jim, to you.
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why not?
1:09:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:09:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it could be.
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Why not?
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's not a lot going on in it.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, they did a normal Pokemon game.
1:10:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a gym is just a house.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But this one's almost like elevated.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tower.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's fun.
1:10:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And now you've got to work your way up, you know, you've got to work your way up the tower to actually like, and solve whatever.
1:10:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there could also be puzzles in here, you know.
1:10:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:10:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we would like.
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think I do very much think it could be a gym, but I do like souls idea of it possibly being the laboratories too, because I don't know that.
1:10:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That little pokeball signpost thing.
1:10:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of, I don't know, gives me like whether, whether vibes.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like a, it's like a weather poll or something.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so the whole game is probably going to be weather vibes too.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Pauncho.
1:10:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like meteorologist vibes.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you?
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, true.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the evil team is like, yeah, that's that's kind of cool.
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's actually interesting because, okay, if this is a tower, we do see, I forgot.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is this is another image.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_01]: of winds and waves.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first island.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The first island that we see in the launch trailer or the announcement trailer.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is also kind of interesting.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw somewhere that first trailer really only takes place in this first area, which is awesome because that means there's so much stuff that we haven't seen.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But what is this tower?
1:11:28
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a different tower.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a just the resort.
1:11:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's not a gym tower.
1:11:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the resort.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you can see the scale of the game too.
1:11:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Which we've got that kind of makes me think though because it's like if we've got a if we've got a hotel resort that's a huge tower and now we've got
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_00]: all these other towers like is that gonna turn into like is that just a trend of the game or maybe a theme that's hinting at a little something more like could they could could towers like have something to do with the overall uh it's like bridges I don't know like the uh
1:12:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know love is like like like like like you just Keep going up and then one day you jump off.
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, it makes me think it just makes me think about like what they could be going for Because it's like towers are are unique So to have a bunch of them kind of stands out and towers you like distinctly reach up into the sky and this is this is Pokemon winds and waves Yeah, so I'm kind of just wondering if there's like a through line there
1:12:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it's function hours.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they have a lot of powers.
1:12:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a battle tower.
1:12:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally a battle tower.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think what it is.
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's something that you can look at in the distance and say, this is distinct.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks, it looks man-made.
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's artificial.
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, this is my next destination.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me set my sights on this and let me navigate towards it.
1:13:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And then once you're at the tower, I can also see.
1:13:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, yeah, I can see as defeating the gym leader or whoever, right, maybe it's like a different type of trial and now you're at the top of the tower and you're able to look out at the world and I could see the the gym leader or whoever right is is rewarding you can now be like.
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Check that over there, do you see this?
1:13:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's your next destination, right?
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you'll be able to have a unique vantage point for whatever's in proximity.
1:13:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I do think there will be some kind of significance or at least like inspiration behind them because in pal day of those towers did have inspiration.
1:13:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the king of Spain at one point had built towers around the whole country so that he could like see like over.
1:13:56
[SPEAKER_02]: the other countries that would we're like trying to attack them if I remember correctly it was something like that it might not have been the king of spain but the king of that area Yeah, I think generally historically like so they were fired.
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well for sure and well the bill the bill of those towers were not inspired like The earth that they put into those towers were not inspired
1:14:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and they didn't have like huge like ginormous significance, but they were meaningful, because they were a reference to the King of Paldea and like, right, we went and picked them.
1:14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is, and it, like true, it was a bit of, they were kind of like used for environmental storytelling, because those were where you found Gimmie Ghoul, and the idea was that
1:14:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what the game was sort of implying to you, which was really cool.
1:14:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a lot of depth.
1:14:51
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of depth in that whole story because then there's like their treasures are ruined and all that stuff too.
1:14:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, just to say that these towers, we've had, they have more time to make this game so, you know, maybe there's a lot more to be.
1:15:02
[SPEAKER_01]: power is then the power of the one so yeah I guess okay so we can also talk about this this is a part of the map no we've old been kind of sussing out for a couple months now um
1:15:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And all we've really been able to see of it.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, this is the first image that's been around.
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't even get really get like a good image because it's right down here at the bottom.
1:15:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys can, let me check the, yeah, you see you guys can see that a little bit.
1:15:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all messed up.
1:15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like zoomed, it's enhanced, it's, you can barely see it, but it's like, and I think we were all wondering, is this actually going to make it into the game?
1:15:40
[SPEAKER_01]: This little part, it's like the most, what would it be?
1:15:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The south eastern section of the map in the corner.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a little island or a little landmass that looks identical to the town of Darwin, which is located in the north of Australia, which would make sense because that Australia is close to Southeast Asia.
1:16:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now we're seeing, where's the image?
1:16:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we pull it up.
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're seeing this concept art, which is maybe, you know, we're seeing this concept art that gives us a more detailed vision of what this location could look like.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'll say right now like the fact that it's all bordered off with like a bunch of like rocks, a little sad.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, it's literally just creepy, but it's cool.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It still gives you the limits of what it will be.
1:16:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't expect to go into all of Australia, right?
1:16:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's cool that it's this.
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool that it's like deserty, like dinghy Pokemon, maybe.
1:16:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like there could be.
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta have the dinghy rule on.
1:16:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that area isn't specifically deserty, but right underneath it is very, like a huge, have Australia as a desert.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_02]: it fits really well.
1:17:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm this little piece of land has been in every iteration of this map that we've seen, which is good as early version and actually going to be this version.
1:17:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And it, uh, this is kind of, it kind of makes me wonder to, uh, in terms of like,
1:17:17
[SPEAKER_00]: the significance of this area because I don't think like they could have easily done this region and just had it be Indonesia.
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_00]: They did not have to include any part of Australia because it's like a sub it's a separate land mass and with Australia being Australia, like it's one of the most like hotly requested regions ever and it's just like so unique and everything.
1:17:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So just
1:17:43
[SPEAKER_00]: like, including any little bit of it is setting up expectations, obviously.
1:17:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:17:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've still gone ahead and included this.
1:17:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes me wonder like, what are they going to do there?
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like it would be like whatever is there is I feel like would be fairly significant, especially because in terms of like the storytelling aspect, it is a
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like you got to sort of like explain that somehow like you know like oh this is over here often the distance because this is a part I mean they they're probably they're not going to like say it's a part of another region, but I you say won't but I'm like I I really think we've been talking about for months I really I really really think like like Jenton is not just Indonesia it like we were seeing like I don't think that are part of all they're going on.
1:18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's other countries represented here, Australia is just one of those, you know?
1:18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so while I agree, I think that stands like, yeah, let's hope this, you know, this is interesting or they tease that stuff.
1:18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would want.
1:18:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I would want them to tease it stuff.
1:18:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, but I think this is just going to be another gym.
1:18:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be like another unique location that feels maybe in post game where they're like, yeah, you've traveled all around here, but you've never been to Australia.
1:19:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And the same, we're going to see the same thing
1:19:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It would just be Malaysia, I don't think Thailand would be, or like right up here, whatever part of that whole thing is Malaysia, okay, and Singapore, okay, yeah, see everything else would be off the map, you're right here's the thing though.
1:19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there is there is a like that spot where it's like more there's more landmass that trails off the map, but with that specific spot, it is kind of like Malaysia and it's more southeast Asia, whereas Australia is a whole different continent.
1:19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it makes sense where it makes sense that they would cut off the rest of southeast Asia because it's just like more of the same, essentially, but like Australia is a whole different beast that they didn't have to include by any means, but they have.
1:19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it just makes me intrigued at to what that area of the map is going to be like.
1:20:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And whether there could be more story to it in terms of it being described as like maybe like maybe it's teased as another region or maybe there's a little bit more like maybe it's described as like this far off.
1:20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Ghost that's just like this distant land and we get a bunch of we just get a bunch of bread crumbs I want the bread crumbs yeah give me the terms of like like but I mean we're gonna be able to go here though too Yeah, but I want to see right on the walls.
1:20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I want I want I want like a a new like if there's a single new Gen10 Pokemon that can exist here that like sponsor on only here the assumption is is that it's That it's a it's a Australian Pokemon and then there's this is like can't a joto, you know
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's the whole conspiracy theory of that they used what looked like an Australian landmark in Scarlet and Violet.
1:20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And we all thought that it was a gentan hint back then.
1:20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And now we're getting this Australia location.
1:21:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like it was like it was actually a gentan hint at this point because we have an Australia location.
1:21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like if they were using that to
1:21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: tease the next generation, then it's got to be significant because you wouldn't use a throwaway area to do that.
1:21:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm just really intrigued by the whole scenario.
1:21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the question really is, is it going to be part of the region or is it going to be its own region, you know, like the name, whatever this region is called, will this be part of the region or just like,
1:21:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that I don't think personally I don't think that they'll give it a whole other name Yeah, I think I think that would be going too far, but what I could see is maybe something like the Seve islands to canto.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like it's it gets it.
1:21:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a sublocation that then implies that oh On the other side of these rocks, there's a whole other place.
1:22:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You know that they just raise at
1:22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like Callos and South Callos, because it's good off from the rest of it.
1:22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think this might be a good segue to I think the importance really is going to be on the whole Darwin part about it because I just it feels like just important that to explain that for listeners would really
1:22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's literally the city that is here in the real world, Australia is called Darwin.
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the leaked image of the professor that we have, he looks like Charles Darwin, like quite a bit.
1:22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think that we know some stuff about, I don't want to get too deep into story stuff.
1:22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But we know some stuff about the professor and the champion, they're like, at least the champion, specifically is very involved with the whole story of everything and the champion and the professor are linked together.
1:22:58
[SPEAKER_02]: in the plot, like quite a bit.
1:22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think there could be a lot to do with the professor coming from this specific area.
1:23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's from here.
1:23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that will have implications throughout the story.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's where it's important.
1:23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll come from.
1:23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it also, it's total copium, but if we have an area in the game that is a part of the Australian continent, that just gives you just like a little bit of hope that maybe DLC could open it.
1:23:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just this much.
1:23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And we get the Australia DLC.
1:23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
1:23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great idea.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoops.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually go check out YouTube.com Backslash dusty go go scroll all one page down and there is a video where I map out Specifically what we could see in an Australia DLC for Genten the video kind of flots But I thought it was pretty good.
1:23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little bit ahead of its time.
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps Yeah, a lot of people.
1:23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that a lot of people with this leak also
1:23:59
[SPEAKER_02]: were like, aw, dang, the Philippines are not here.
1:24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, a lot of people finally realized that this is not a Philippines region, because when Wids and Ways was first revealed, they were like, it's Southeast Asia, it's the Philippines, and I'm not saying the Philippines is not gonna be like influential in like the region itself.
1:24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like different Pokemon or things that culturally come from that country.
1:24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But the actual region itself is not here.
1:24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: The country itself is not here.
1:24:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe Philippines DLC, but for now RIP to the Philippines.
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's awesome.
1:24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to get some fun.
1:24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's important to know as well that uh...
1:24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this doesn't really add to the likelihood, but in the Sword and Shield DLC, and in the, especially the Scarlet and Violet DLC, we went to different locations, like in Galler, it was just different parts of Galler, but in Scarlet and Violet, it was
1:24:55
[SPEAKER_00]: the Kitakami region, essentially.
1:24:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we went to Univ with the Blueberry Academy.
1:24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, there are already kind of globe-trotting a little bit.
1:25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So like going to more of an area, like this Australia, that already exists in the base game, is not like that crazy of an ass.
1:25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Also go to youtube.com backslashdustygogo because I got a new video with locks didn't come out about all of the DLC locations that we could potentially go to and I'm realizing I have to get the video nice as soon as possible because the whole game might leak and that would suck that would be a big bummer.
1:25:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they have the DLC in the least.
1:25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: One more thing I wanted to say about the one thing I want to say about the map really quick before we like wrap up on it.
1:25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Is.
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something about the art of this map and just seen the region a little bit more detailed that gives it a really classic kind of vibe.
1:25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a generation dude.
1:25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I look at the map, yeah.
1:25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes me think of like, ho and or something like that.
1:26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm just getting, I'm getting, I'm getting classic Pokemon fields from this region, which is a good sign for me because, yeah, like it just tells me that we'll maybe have,
1:26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of like a classic vintage sort of Pokemon experience like that's just the that's just the I feel it I'm getting no I feel it I think it's bright it's colorful I think a lot of the switch 3D games have been just like a little I don't know it's like I don't want to say realism but yeah yeah I think this feels good this feels good the concept art is nice dude someone it's someone actually made it it's it's cool
1:26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I think what we got to talk about next is these character models This is coming from oh so silver art major Pokemon leaks.
1:26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a few new beta gym leaders and the champion are some of these also the elite four And we got how many images are here?
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, all right.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't even looked at all these so this first batch soul hit me
1:27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the dolphin hair lady we've seen her a million times.
1:27:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But she's got some color to her face and behind her hair, I guess.
1:27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a skill like you know why that's kind of interesting.
1:27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently it's the water type.
1:27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Him leader or elite four, I'm not sure.
1:27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not sure if even they're the same.
1:27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Because, uh, there was another leak from Bogai that he said that the elite four actually water grass fire in electric.
1:27:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude.
1:27:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's interesting.
1:27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so she could be a gym leader because we know there's an old grass gym or water gyms are as well, but what if she's both like in Scarlet could be with Larry apparently these characters are very into your story into the story like the only for like there like the whole time to like
1:27:51
[SPEAKER_02]: yo, do this, do that.
1:27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know exactly, but they're around.
1:27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They're involved.
1:27:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the next guy, I think is the grass type gym leader or elite form member, a lot of people.
1:28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, or thinking that as well, because I guess in the file, I don't know how this was, this was leaked a forechand, um, There were files that were leaked as well.
1:28:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:28:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it said grass on his.
1:28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I wanted to say something, I wanted to say something about this guy.
1:28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I can, I can guarantee you that he's a grass trainer, because his hair is literally a tree.
1:28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you're right.
1:28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy isn't has an S to your design.
1:28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
1:28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy is a tree is like a bonsai tree You're right.
1:28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's like what do you call it like a we know what no weeping willow, but yeah Yeah, and he's even got like roots and stuff like you're right.
1:28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're right.
1:28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: No root line.
1:28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, that's good
1:28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I saw this I was like that is crazy character dude.
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's cool new in mascot new uh He's gonna be one of the first ones.
1:28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine if he's a gym leader.
1:28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
1:28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a grass type gym, you know, dude That's um These do feel like the lead four members.
1:29:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say because like the gym.
1:29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked over the joke Yeah, so the third I talked over here.
1:29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even hear the third.
1:29:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the third guy.
1:29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a drive
1:29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: friend of the channel.
1:29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a champion.
1:29:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He really doesn't he?
1:29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's it's it's the go see.
1:29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's the go see.
1:29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time eyes it's going to hurt that haircut.
1:29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it dude.
1:29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's looking good.
1:29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to take in an illustrious cannot unsee and rick it in the middle of your battle.
1:29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
1:29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's sick, dude.
1:29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, we got we got Shady Penguin in Scarlet and Violet as a Toro and now we got now we got a drive.
1:29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Dan's here.
1:29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope you're washing this.
1:29:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, yeah, that's these guys are looking cool.
1:29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fire makes sense.
1:29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the go-t is like Well, here's what I'm wondering.
1:29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here's what I'm wondering.
1:30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've talked before about how like the champion He like starts young and then he gets old because there's that there's that a prequel anime that's apparently supposed to be set
1:30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: in the like before the events of Wins and Waves and he's like young there, but then he's old here.
1:30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But then we have these two models that show him like as like an adult and then like an old man.
1:30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:30:27
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the same people.
1:30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're saying this one.
1:30:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So that guy right there.
1:30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He's an adult and they go over two more pictures and this is Even older, so it's like what is going on with this guy?
1:30:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we oh my god, wait is time travel Yeah, we've got we've got multiple different like ages for is
1:30:50
[SPEAKER_02]: This is actually a screenshot of a video like you can see what was leaked was like a video of him moving Like a little animation.
1:30:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's I it could be a time travel thing or it could just be that like the previous model Doesn't have the detailed lines on the face because I think it's basically the same the white well his hair is black is not
1:31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but all of their hair is blinding is like a place baby All their hair is still in the back No, you're right.
1:31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a coat.
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
1:31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that was a coat too.
1:31:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a coat.
1:31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's assume it in hands Oh, but what do I thought he looked like age driving him more?
1:31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: He looked like I thought that was a coat
1:31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought that too that he just had a classic haircut and go to you.
1:31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like That's his wallet for all that.
1:31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I see it.
1:31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I see it.
1:31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, so yeah, you're right.
1:31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so they could just be the same character Oh, dude, and he's it's like I'm glad you saw that because the other reason why I I know he's all white anyway He's like burned up.
1:31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw though.
1:31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the white hair and I was like that.
1:31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe think too.
1:31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So no, you're right.
1:31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: The black to white hair
1:32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But there could be some.
1:32:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I do agree with you.
1:32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he does look younger in the other one, so it's like, I don't know what's going on.
1:32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Time travel shenanigans here.
1:32:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to go all this guy.
1:32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, could we see a version of these characters in an animation earlier in the game?
1:32:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We see the pre-log or something of
1:32:19
[SPEAKER_02]: and then we see them 30 years later and how they've changed over time and that'd be kind of cool if we got whatever just to see the different perspective would the timelines I think that that is what not I think that's not one of your craziest ideas I think that that's possible because it's very possible he looks younger we've heard things about that leaked so like it could happen
1:32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: that'd be sweet.
1:32:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting the vibe that a game freak heard all of the slander about Gita and that was like the worst champion and she she means nothing she's like no one cares about her I think they took that to heart and they're like, okay, we're gonna make the greatest champion ever
1:33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I'm already getting more aura from this guy than Gita and we're all these stories about how he's super involved in the plot and there's time travel apparently like it feels like they're really they're really taking that criticism to harm and they're like give us a fire champion
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Then we also have the fighting type champ or not chip in Jim leader like a parent he must be fighting He's got it.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got it.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got it.
1:33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got it.
1:33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got it.
1:33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.
1:33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.
1:33:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.
1:33:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.
1:33:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.
1:33:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He also has like the 1970s hair cut of He looks like rock Lee.
1:33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm thinking.
1:33:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking like Isn't like did Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee didn't they have like like a lot of like a lot of like a lot of hair
1:33:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a 70's, maybe when they're young, like when they're in the movies.
1:33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you should put young, maybe.
1:33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, he's you know, he's pretty standard fighting type.
1:34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, literally look at this.
1:34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:34:04
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Jackie Chan.
1:34:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the hair dude.
1:34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's yeah was the 70s.
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's that's the skinny Bruno a little bit.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's got none chucks at his feet and he's got those like he's got like foot wraps.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a fighting type.
1:34:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be
1:34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: What if we got like characters that were actually like former characters from different points in time because there's time travel like this is young That's the time travel And then we get like yeah, and we get like we get old someone else like I would love that.
1:34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it would all have to be progressed.
1:34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be like
1:34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what I'm thinking is like if we're going to get time travel, I don't think it's literally time travel.
1:34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what it would be because we just got that in the last game.
1:34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think what it would be if we're getting like if people are in line and the rumors are if the rumors are saying that there's time travel, I think the proper realistic interpretation of that would be that we're seeing characters from the past aged up in this game because it's 30 years later.
1:35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That feels like a, that, that feels realistic.
1:35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is the 30th anniversary game too as well.
1:35:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:35:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, you know, they could, that.
1:35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That was just supposed to be in the game, right?
1:35:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:35:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:35:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's child, I suppose.
1:35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
1:35:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's child.
1:35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's child.
1:35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
1:35:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:35:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I'm like, boy, because there's been confusion.
1:35:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
1:35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is cool.
1:35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a fighting type gym leader.
1:35:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to see this and yeah, let's see what else I just added this and then I post because this yeah, this has been leaked for a while.
1:35:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It was in a voice picture.
1:35:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
1:35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: This reminds me uh, he's wearing a case reminds me of uh, Clint Eastwood.
1:35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know where I think this would be.
1:36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: This would be in the Australia region.
1:36:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
1:36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very cool.
1:36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: That that's something we could see.
1:36:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something we could see.
1:36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe there's a character from there, the gym leader.
1:36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he still rums around.
1:36:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I love, oh, I love the idea.
1:36:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I'm getting so pumped to see more of wins and waves.
1:36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And guys, we've made it.
1:36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've, we've, we've, we've,
1:36:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The years it's almost October.
1:36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it is October.
1:36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let me let me let me put this into Let me put this into perspective forever.
1:36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
1:36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: We are I mean by the time you're listening to this It's going to be October, which effectively means it is officially in the whole day season
1:36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got Halloween.
1:36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Halloween will take up your whole October.
1:36:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Go have fun.
1:36:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
1:36:52
[SPEAKER_00]: November.
1:36:53
[SPEAKER_00]: November is going to be all about Thanksgiving.
1:36:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be preparing.
1:36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be so busy.
1:36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You.
1:36:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The time is going to fly by Christmas.
1:37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Time is going to fly by.
1:37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Done before you know it.
1:37:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be second week of January.
1:37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: We're only which means we're only one month away and you know and you know we got the hit we got the hidden power content We're gonna be doing speculation for for for for for Pokemon day.
1:37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so pumped man.
1:37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh We're almost there.
1:37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We're told we're almost that it's gonna be good
1:37:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, please guys, let us know what you think down in the comments.
1:37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, there's a lot here.
1:37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like honestly, I don't think we even have done a proper read on this map.
1:37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually would like to come back in a week or maybe on a stream and go.
1:37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Island by island in kind of speculate on what we could see in all these different locations.
1:37:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would like to do to be quite honest with you.
1:37:50
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a whole like Stonehenge thing on on silhouette.
1:37:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the one with like the like crazy looking island.
1:37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at that the whole story.
1:37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
1:37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at this the whole time.
1:37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right there.
1:38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, super cool.
1:38:03
[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds fun and this is a dungeon.
1:38:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're on there.
1:38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We should count up the dungeons Oh, we got these little islands of these little like houses on rafts, you know, and that might be a party sold right there could be more Yeah, the part of the trailer that we got is actually in the middle like the the middle island.
1:38:21
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a A scene from the trailer there like over to the right of the screen right now On that island you see like the huts
1:38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see that in the trailer.
1:38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, right here.
1:38:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're right there right there.
1:38:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude.
1:38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's already.
1:38:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That's already in game.
1:38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and we're seeing more of the.
1:38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We could go deep.
1:38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also lighthouses.
1:38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to have to come back and and properly, uh, kind of comb through this entire image.
1:38:47
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1:39:10
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1:39:12
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1:39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been covering Gen10 all year long.
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, I'm so pumped.
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I really am pumped for, for, to just learn, we're going to be seeing a trailer in four months, maybe five.
1:39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: No, four, it's October, October, November, December, okay, five.
1:39:30
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's January, remember?
1:39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's January.
1:39:33
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
1:39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that's true.
1:39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, you're not even gonna know.
1:39:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I am gonna be pre-unknown.
1:39:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I am gonna be pre-unknown.
1:39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I am gonna be pre-unknown.
1:39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be pre-unknown.
1:39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be honest with you.
1:40:00
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1:40:03
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1:40:05
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1:40:37
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1:40:38
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1:40:39
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1:40:40
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