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357: Sister Wives Rewind - Baby Sister Is Born! (S10 E6) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Reality TV Cringe, the podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: am one of your hosts, the old head, Delia, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm here with my real tight homegirl and my daughter-in-law,
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  Speaker 1: the young and the nubile, Beatrice.
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  Speaker 2: That's me.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to talk sister wives, honey. Oh. We
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  Speaker 1: are currently in a rewind era in season 10. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We had another two hour episode this week.
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  Speaker 2: We're really happy about it.
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  Speaker 1: For some cosmic reason that I can't explain, but we
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  Speaker 1: did watch the whole damn thing.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 1: We watched the whole damn thing and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: recap it. But before we do, we have to issue
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, that birth, honey. Welcome to this dumpster.
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  Speaker 1: So before we launch into our riveting recap, Beatrice, I
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  Speaker 1: do have to ask you whether you have any takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: My takeaway is that this episode nearly bored me to death.
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  Speaker 1: Honey.
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  Speaker 2: I was in a liminal state between this reality and
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  Speaker 2: what lies beyond. And the only thing that brought me
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  Speaker 2: back was Robin's water breaking and exploding all over her
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  Speaker 2: midwife and her marital bed because she chose to give birth.
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  Speaker 2: In the same bed. I heard Cody fuck it.
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  Speaker 1: I know. And Solomon sleeps in it.
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  Speaker 2: And Solomon sleeps in it.
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  Speaker 1: I know. It was such an awkward moment. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: bodily things happen. But that water just exploded forth with
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  Speaker 1: such a divine vehemence. Spraying. Is her name Amber the midwife? April.
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  Speaker 1: April the midwife. Yeah. Right in her red haired face.
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  Speaker 1: I know. And her bosom. her titties all wet from
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  Speaker 1: robin's water that was wild.
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  Speaker 2: That was nasty it was real and i'm not trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Like no i mean this was what happened i guess
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  Speaker 1: i don't remember that happening with.
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  Speaker 2: Me well you were you had an epidural Oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't take. Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have an epidural. I didn't have drugs, but
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  Speaker 1: I think I was induced. I think they had to
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  Speaker 1: go in and like break my water.
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  Speaker 2: Break your water for you. So it didn't happen that way.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly did. Some projectile bag of water coming right
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  Speaker 1: out of my cooter and hitting the nurse, slapping her
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  Speaker 1: right in the face. On national TV.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you edit that out? Yes. Wild. My takeaway was, oh, God, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: the stepdaddy. Oh, I know. It's not just in the
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  Speaker 1: room again to see up close and personal another birth, but, like,
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  Speaker 1: his chair is right at the end of the bed
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  Speaker 1: facing full on her punaner.
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  Speaker 2: Her open cooter. And then her mom just taking photo
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  Speaker 2: after photo of her coochie.
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  Speaker 1: Of her vagina. I know. With that old man just
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  Speaker 1: staring right past her. Up her birth canal.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Is this not strange for anybody else? It seems so
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  Speaker 1: weird to me. It's fucking bizarre, dude. We need to
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  Speaker 1: do a little... He's passed right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe he's a great guy. I don't know. But like,
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  Speaker 1: it's just giving... It's giving weird. This is Googling predators.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I'm doing right now. I'm Googling predators.
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  Speaker 1: I'm checking the registry right here because that's just strange.
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  Speaker 2: Someone call Chris Anson.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. That was my takeaway.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, without... Any further ado, let's get into the recap
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  Speaker 1: of Sister Wives Season 10, Episode 6.
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  Speaker 2: Baby sister is born.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yay. Oh, my God. Oh, God, yay.
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  Speaker 2: The entire episode basically surrounds Robin about to give birth
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  Speaker 2: to baby Ariella, and then, like, the last half of
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  Speaker 2: it is literally her giving birth.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything else we need to say to these
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  Speaker 1: beautiful records before we get up on out of here, Beatrice?
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  Speaker 1: Because that was the whole... And here's what I want
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  Speaker 1: to say. Like, throughout this episode and a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of last episode, you've got Cody and Robin telegraphing in
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  Speaker 1: their interstitials that she's got some sort of Mormon intuition
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  Speaker 1: about this delivery. Like, something's different. Something's wrong. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. I think she may be coming
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  Speaker 1: early and getting the Braxton Hex. I've got the Braxton Hex.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel safe. And so we've been hearing this,
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  Speaker 1: but it's always in a talking head. It's not in
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  Speaker 1: the natural flow of the timeline. I feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: orchestrating the appearance of this is a dangerous, unsafe birth.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: When in reality, it was just kind of your regular,
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  Speaker 1: degular home birth.
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  Speaker 2: Like the whole episode, I'm watching it and I'm thinking...
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  Speaker 2: Y'all are being a little dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because we saw a preview last week about how Robin
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  Speaker 2: was saying her midwife may have to resuscitate her baby.
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  Speaker 2: And then that literally didn't happen at all.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: And the baby was completely fine, healthy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she had a broken clavicle. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But my mom had that. That's common.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just big shoulders.
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  Speaker 1: Scary to me, but okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, April said it would heal itself. So I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. Like, broken clavicle, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: a little nerve-wracking or whatever. And, like, we got to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Robin's intuition the whole episode. Her intuition is strong.
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  Speaker 1: I guess so. Got to trust your intuition.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up.
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  Speaker 1: I was just so done with that. I was so
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  Speaker 1: over it.
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  Speaker 2: God.
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  Speaker 1: God.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the only interesting things about it were Cody
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the episode talking about how this
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  Speaker 2: pregnancy with Robin was different than her last one with
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  Speaker 2: Saul because him and her were like emotionally disconnected because
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  Speaker 2: Robin was like fighting with him more and more aggressive
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  Speaker 2: and agitated and stuff. And I kind of enjoyed that.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy thinking about Robin being mad at Cody, but
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  Speaker 2: that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then they had to take us through the
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  Speaker 1: litany of flashbacks from various other seasons, you know, where
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  Speaker 1: they're getting along great. And then last season when it's
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  Speaker 1: the regatta and Robin is getting upset at Cody and
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  Speaker 1: there's little incidences of them fighting. I'm like, we've already,
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  Speaker 1: we literally saw that in the last episode. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: this already. I hate flashbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: They are such filler content. And a lot of this
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  Speaker 1: was flashbacks because I think we start By talking about
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  Speaker 1: every single child that was born into this family.
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  Speaker 2: Again, again, again.
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  Speaker 1: Because at that stupid family celebration, commitment ceremony or whatever
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  Speaker 1: that was, we had to go through each child then.
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  Speaker 1: Each child had their own slideshow. We had to sit
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  Speaker 1: through that shit. We've also read the books. We know
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  Speaker 1: the story. We know the lore. And here we go
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  Speaker 1: again with these damn kids. Again.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like the first 30 minutes of the
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  Speaker 2: episode is just talking about how each kid was born.
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  Speaker 2: And then Robin pans over to Mary and is like, Mary,
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  Speaker 2: are you okay with this conversation?
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  Speaker 1: That was a little wild to me. Are you okay?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're infertile and you only got to have one kid.
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  Speaker 1: It's always Robin who calls it out and she does
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  Speaker 1: it under the guise of checking on Mary because I'm
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  Speaker 1: the only one here who actually loves you. I'm an empath. Like,
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  Speaker 1: are you okay as we sit here and talk about
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  Speaker 1: all of the many babies that we have birthed in
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  Speaker 1: this huge family that we have provided for Cody, whereas
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  Speaker 1: you just provided one child?
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  Speaker 2: Are you all right?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like wondering if Mary was even thinking that.
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  Speaker 1: She might have been. She probably was a little, but
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't picked up on it at that point. No,
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like it was fine. Only when Robin brought
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  Speaker 1: it up and checked on Mary. Are you okay? Are
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  Speaker 1: you okay?
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  Speaker 2: Are you okay? Do you feel included in this conversation
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  Speaker 2: because you're infertile and everyone else had a million babies?
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  Speaker 1: And then Mary starts crying a little bit. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know how I feel about all of this. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, gosh, that's mean. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And also I'm kind of annoyed with Mary always saying
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  Speaker 2: that too. Like every time she cries, she's like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a little surprised by my emotions. Maybe go to therapy.
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  Speaker 1: You have emotions, Mary. I know. Is it a shock?
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  Speaker 1: But then we had to have flashbacks of her fertility
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  Speaker 1: journey that went all the way back to season one.
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  Speaker 1: And the conversation up on the rock formation where Cody's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: I'm done touching your booty. We do not need to
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  Speaker 1: revisit all of this. footage truly production I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Just so bored about it it's just and like all
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  Speaker 2: of it is just leading up to Robin having this
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  Speaker 2: baby and how it's Cody's 18th child and I'm just
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  Speaker 2: like okay I don't care and then we like shift
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  Speaker 2: gears entirely we go uh to Maddie who's getting her
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  Speaker 2: wedding dress fitted and that was like fine I guess
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  Speaker 2: but it was just like five minutes in the episode
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  Speaker 2: of Janelle's mom crying over it and Oh, my God,
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  Speaker 2: our little girl's growing up. She's getting married. And then
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  Speaker 2: back to Robin. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And actually, we go back to Robin and Christine where
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  Speaker 2: they are decorating. Aspen's room at Robin's house because Aspen
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  Speaker 2: is like the president of the Greek society at UNLV.
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  Speaker 2: And so they're going to decorate her room with like
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  Speaker 2: UNLV colors and stuff. And we have this like weird
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  Speaker 2: segment with Christine and Robin where they're talking about like
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  Speaker 2: building trust. with each other. And we talk about sister
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  Speaker 2: wife relationships and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We do have Christine acknowledging again that it was a
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  Speaker 1: little hurtful when Aspen chose to actually live with Robin
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  Speaker 1: when she left the apartment that she was sharing with
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  Speaker 1: McKelty because Christine was hoping that Aspen would move in
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  Speaker 1: with her. But Aspen's like, I'm not going to parent
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  Speaker 1: the rest of your children for the rest of my life. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go over to Robin's. Apparently that situation
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  Speaker 1: has been going really well. Aspen and Robin are getting
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  Speaker 1: on great. And apparently Aspen goes to Robin with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of her life issues and then goes to Christine.
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  Speaker 1: And Christine learns after the fact that she's second to here.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, that's also hurtful. But you know what? It's
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  Speaker 1: really great. It's actually really a perk of this wonderful
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  Speaker 1: family organizational structure called polygamy, you know, because all of
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  Speaker 1: the wives are parents. And I really do believe that
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and Christine also talks about how she did
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  Speaker 2: that when she was a teenager, too. So I'm like, OK,
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  Speaker 2: Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But I was wondering if it's because her mom
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  Speaker 1: actually left the whole family. And so she had to
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  Speaker 1: live with the one remaining mom that she had. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't it doesn't really matter. It was
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  Speaker 1: just sort of very forced interactions between Robin and Christine.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like these two women would never, ever
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  Speaker 1: be friends if it was up to them.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I do think, though, Christine in this moment was, like,
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  Speaker 2: trying to be nice with Robin. I feel like Robin,
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  Speaker 2: on the other hand, just, like, really hates Christine. She
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  Speaker 2: hates all of the wives, really. She only cares about
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  Speaker 2: her own quality, and that's it. And Robin made, like,
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  Speaker 2: some weird comment when they were talking about sister-wife relationships. Like,
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  Speaker 2: Christine says, um... you have to really trust your sister wife.
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  Speaker 2: You have to really want to see her to succeed.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise your relationship with her is not going to survive.
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  Speaker 2: And Robin's like, yeah, you can't be conniving or what
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  Speaker 2: did she say? Conniving or undermining the relationship. Otherwise it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to work.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Pot calling the kettle.
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  Speaker 1: High projection.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Bitch. And then it's like the day after Christmas, we
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  Speaker 2: have to watch all of the older kids make breakfast again,
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  Speaker 2: which we've seen in previous seasons. The older girls.
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  Speaker 1: Serve the boys and the rest of the family.
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  Speaker 2: And they're teaching the younger girls the tradition because a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the older girls have moved out by this point.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's three days post Robin's due date. And
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  Speaker 2: she feels in her Mormon intuition that she's going to
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  Speaker 2: have the baby this day because her Braxton Hicks and
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  Speaker 2: her contractions are so close together. And so then like
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the episode is prepping for her birth.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have to have a whole conversation about
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  Speaker 2: home birth versus hospital birth.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, we're scared as polygamists to go to
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  Speaker 1: the hospital because they start asking all those darn questions like,
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  Speaker 1: who's the father of this baby? Who should be put
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  Speaker 1: on the birth certificate? And that can get us into
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  Speaker 1: so much trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: You've told me this. A million times before. We get it.
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  Speaker 2: And we did hear from Christine at this point talking
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  Speaker 2: about how weird it was to have her birth with
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  Speaker 2: Truly filmed on TV. Like when she was initially in
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  Speaker 2: the process of giving birth, she didn't really care about
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  Speaker 2: the cameraman or anything because they trust this dude. But
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  Speaker 2: then after when she saw it on TV and she
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  Speaker 2: was watching herself give birth in the hospital, she felt
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  Speaker 2: a little weird about it. And this kind of leads
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  Speaker 2: up to us watching Robin give birth. And we pretty
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  Speaker 2: much watched like the entire.
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  Speaker 1: We saw her little bag of water explode from her
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  Speaker 1: vagine into the face of April, the midwife. We saw
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  Speaker 1: it all. Yeah. We saw it all. We have to
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  Speaker 1: talk about her dilation. I don't mean to be crass,
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  Speaker 1: but it's too much.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: At least with Solomon, it was, I don't know, 15
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  Speaker 1: minutes of a one hour episode. You know, we got enough. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But this was a two hour episode with the most
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  Speaker 1: content going to Robin. Yeah. Her over a ball, her
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  Speaker 1: inactive labor, walking around her in bed, trying to breathe
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  Speaker 1: out of her nose. Like I just, it's just, so much.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of felt like a weird, like nature documentary.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we don't need to watch this. Like I
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  Speaker 2: think birth is beautiful and magical. And I will say
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  Speaker 2: what it's not. Well, it is like the process.
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  Speaker 1: Of it from a meta position, bringing life into the
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  Speaker 1: world is obviously great, but like the birth act.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's yeah. There's lots of private sensitive things. There's
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  Speaker 2: gross things that happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not fun to watch on TV. That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I will give Robin props where props are due. The
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  Speaker 2: fact that she had five successful home births with like
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  Speaker 2: no medication and stuff. None.
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  Speaker 1: That's metal.
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  Speaker 2: It is. Like, that's hardcore. I will say that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: I would never do that myself.
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  Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't want that for anybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. And then the thing that I thought
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  Speaker 2: was interesting is, like, during this whole birth process, we
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  Speaker 2: kind of hear from Cody where he says that Robin
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  Speaker 2: was trained by her mom to be very ladylike and
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  Speaker 2: calm and poised during all of her births because, according
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  Speaker 2: to Robin's mom... When you're screaming in pain and you
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  Speaker 2: are agitated or whatever, and you're making a lot of noise,
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  Speaker 2: it can somehow negatively impact the birth or like negatively
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  Speaker 2: impact the baby.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like some Scientology BS.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And like some weird culty stuff. And I kind
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  Speaker 2: of felt a little bad for Robin in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I'm like, damn dude. So you can't even like
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  Speaker 2: have a normal baby. like female primal reaction to pushing
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  Speaker 2: a giant human out your coochie with no meds or anything.
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  Speaker 2: You're just, so that's why we see her. like this
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  Speaker 2: and with Saul just very quiet and just pushing and
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: not making any noise. And I'm like, that's.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Crazy to me. It is crazy. And let me clarify. Um,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I personally would always choose the drugs and I would
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: always recommend to anybody in my sphere of influence, take
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: all the drugs that you can take without hurting yourself
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: or the baby. Absolutely get the drugs. But if you
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: chose as a mom to have a child without drugs
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: to do, to do it, like, naturally 100%. I also
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: think that that's wonderful. I'm not saying that everybody should
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: have the drugs. It's just for me. Like I feel
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: like I really wished that I could have the epidural
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: throughout and I didn't have to labor so intensely. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: speaking of making excited utterances, I was, I was grunting.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I was screaming.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I was yelling. In fact, when it was over, my
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: grandmother had been there with me throughout it. She's like, wow,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that was, A lot harder than I thought it was
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: going to be. Like you were really in a lot
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: of pain. So I think I was just really vocal
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: throughout the entire thing. And I'm sure I needed to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: be because as you have waves going through your body
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: trying to push this little person out, it hurts. Duh.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And it's okay to be able to be in the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: energy of that. But like Robin is just quiet as
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a church mouse. And there's Alice with her camera with
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: the flash.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: The whole time. It was wild.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: And that was so weird to me. And then we
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: have Cody the whole time in his talking head and
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: like throughout the process being like, this is really intense.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: This is a really stressful situation. I'm getting kind of
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: scared because Robin's mom is praying. And we're worried. And crying.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And Robin's intuition has been telling us something is wrong
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: this whole time. Meanwhile, the birth is like perfectly fine. Yeah.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Like literally nothing happened.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: And it happened in like a couple of hours because
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Christine's like, I was just over there. She was walking around.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: She was fully dressed. And now I guess the baby's born.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Two and a half hours later. So it was like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a quick delivery without issue, except for, I guess, the clavicle.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: But the way they were setting it up was like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: oh my God, something terrible is going to happen. Now
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: let's talk about Cody, the birthing coach, because here comes
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Janelle on the couch to say, I really have to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: say that Cody is the guy you want in the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: room when you're giving birth because he's so present. He's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: so supportive and encouraging and he is right there. And
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think from what we can
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: see for every birth that we've seen Cody attend, He
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: has been very present. And I think that's great because
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I think you were talking last week about Gen Z
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: dads who are playing video games and ordering pizza in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the delivery room, whereas Cody is really there for the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: wives and for the children. And I think that's great.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But then there's that aspect of Cody that always needs
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to center himself first as some sort of an authority
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: on giving birth. And so you do have him standing
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: over Robin and commanding her to breathe through her nose
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and to get enough air and telling her what to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: do and yes that's how that yes she should be
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: doing that but it's the way that he's doing it
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like he knows better and he's in control of the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: entire thing and he's the master of the birthing operations
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it's very annoying i don't know how she did not
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: kick him right in the balls and sent him from
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the room i.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Thought the same thing because i'm like man we're hearing
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a lot from cody And about how he's so great
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and so amazing as a husband.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And this is also what women need to do to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: give birth. From Cody.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: He literally called himself the enforcer. As in he knows
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: exactly what they need to be doing during birth because
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: he knows all. And I'm just like, dude, it was
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it was really crazy to see this because it really
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: highlights his narcissism that only just gets worse from here
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: on out because I'm like man Like your wife is
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in active labor and we're just talking about how you
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: know the rules and how you're being a really good
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: husband because you're telling her to breathe and how you
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: made her mad because you were telling her to breathe
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: through her nose. And he's like, but it's okay because
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I know what needs to be done. So I'm good.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I don't care if she's mad at me. because I'm
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: doing the right thing. I'm like, oh my God, give
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: me a break.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Just stop talking about yourself so much. It's really not
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: about you. And apparently Ariella had huge shoulders and it
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: was actually really difficult, ergo painful, very painful for Robin
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: to be able to push that baby out. And let's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about that instead of about
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: yourself in your constant perceptions of everything going on around you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I just like, shut up. He can't shut up.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And like, not to advocate for Robin so much in
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: this episode, because I know we hate her, but I'm like,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: this is about her giving birth and her doing a
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: home birth and natural birth, which again, like I said,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: is metal as fuck. And yet we're centering Cody the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: entire time, nearly the entire time. We're not talking about
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: how amazing it is that she was able to do
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that with no pain we're not no pain but no
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: pain management or pain or drugs or anything like that
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: we're talking about Cody being a really good husband yeah
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and then we have to hear from the other wives
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: who echo the same sentiment because we have to like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: fan Cody and worship him because he's the patriarch and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: so amazing and it's funny because we're doing all of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: this when there's two moments in this episode where Cody
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: gets pissed off at his family for not listening to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: him like it was at the Christmas dinner I think
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: where he like makes an announcement for their upcoming trip
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to Hawaii. And all of the kids were just like
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: worrying about their food and not really giving a fuck.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And Cody gets frustrated that nobody's listening to him. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, this is probably what he means later
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: in the series where he talks about how nobody respects
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: him and nobody like, um, cares about his authority in
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the family and how he's the patriarch or whatever, because
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: he gets mad at that. And then he gets mad
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: at the end of the episode and, when they announced
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to the family what the baby's name is and nobody's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: listening to him, and he's like, why can't everybody just
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: be quiet and listen to me? And I'm like, chill out.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You're not the center of attention.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You're not the center of attention. And there was a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: baby that was just born and everybody's excited about it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And you have all of these kids, some of which
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: are pretty young and they're all gathered together and they're
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: being pretty polite. I mean, like, why does it always
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: have to be some sort of an issue about you're
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: trying to commandeer and manage your family? It's just too
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: much from Cody. And Then we get the name reveal.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And I did want to ask you about this because
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: earlier in this season, I think when they went to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the ultrasound, the technician asked Robin whether she had a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: name yet. And Robin's like, yeah, I don't really think so.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: We're still trying to figure that out. And I just
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: had the impression that they already knew what the name was.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And here again, during this episode, as soon as the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: baby comes into the world, Robin says again, yeah, I'm
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: not sure. what we're going to name the baby, still
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: thinking about it. We're just calling her baby girl. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: then they have this announcement event. It's like, it's always
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: got to be this family event or family celebration where
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: everybody has to gather around. Cody has to wrangle his
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: family and then Cody gets to make some sort of announcement.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It's, tedious it's very tedious and it really is just
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: for them to propel the narrative that like they're a
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: cohesive family unit unit and that they're united together when
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: we know just even watching this back that they're really
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: not at this point in time like they're really only
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: gathering just because the cameras are around and like about
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the name chain or the name choice Cody was the
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: one that picked it yeah allegedly I mean according to
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: this story like Robin's like yeah I wasn't sure what
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to name her and Then Cody comes to me and
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: says that he had this like premonition that he needed
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to have this name. And so we went with what
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Cody wanted. I'm like, again, it's like all about Cody.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yes. And I think Robin says that Ariella is Hebrew
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: for lioness of God. And I'm like, Ariella is a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Hebrew name? During the days of Moses, we had some
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: lady walking around named Ariella. I don't know. Alexis and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Ariella with Moses walking through the Red Sea. I don't know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It's just like, okay, whatever. It's a pretty name for
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a beautiful baby. I actually cried when Ariella was born.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, anytime I see a birth. I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: always cried. Do you still have that show on TLC
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just about births?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Every single episode.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: You were crying. I would cry.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And I wondered if I would in this one because
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I just can't stand Cody and Robin. And I don't.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: care about them. But sure enough, as soon as that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: baby finally got yanked out of her cooter by the shoulders,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I cried a little bit.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, like I said, it's kind of
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a beautiful experience. And she was like a really healthy,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: chubby baby.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I thought she was so cute. She was nine pounds,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: nine ounces. Yep. Damn.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Well, when my mom was born, she had her clavicle
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: broken too. She was 10 pounds.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Mama B. I know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: So it's just, I don't know. It was sweet or whatever.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I hate to be, like, so blasé about it because
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: it's Ariella's birth. And, like, she didn't get to choose
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: her demonic parents. So, like, I feel bad that she
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: was born to them or whatever. And she's the last
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: baby of the family.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So that is like special. Oh, and I did also
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: want to point out before Ariella was even born, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: thought it was kind of weird how involved Aurora and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Brianna were.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Like Aurora was tracking the timing of Robin's contractions and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Brianna was in the room and they weren't in the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: room for the actual birth with Robin's kitty cat out
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Only her dad was watching from the fucking cuck chair
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: over there. But like, I just thought it was kind
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of odd that these like teenage girls were so involved
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: in it. I don't think it's necessarily inappropriate because I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: feel like historically that's probably not an uncommon thing.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I just thought, I think it's part of what they do. Yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was kind of odd. And then
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: they were like the first ones allowed in to see
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: baby Ariella. And then the rest of the family was
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: allowed to come over once they Dayton gave them the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: go ahead because Dayton sent out a max mass text
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to the rest of the family that baby Ariella was born.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't know. I thought it was kind
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: of weird and it kind of highlighted a little bit,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: just like how Robin and Cody's little family was kind
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: of keeping.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: And like starting to separate themselves a little bit from
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the larger family. group but ultimately when everybody comes over
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: to see the baby like it's it's sweet and yeah
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: of course we do have to highlight hunter and how
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: uh robin was so scared about hunter's reaction because he
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: didn't really like saul at first according to robin and
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: but now he's not true i know he.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Was great with saul as soon as saul was born
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: he didn't like the announcement of your pregnancy because it
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: was one more thing on top of the shit sandwich
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: she he had just endured But you just can't have
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: any compassion for Hunter at all. And you've got to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: bring it up once again years later. Because she's so
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: resentful of it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, wow, girl, like we're going to continue
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to be bitter about it. But that also just highlights
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Robin's shitty character and how she never really liked this
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: family and never really liked any of the other kids
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: or any of the other wives. She really was just
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: concerned about Cody and securing her bag. So it's like
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: this whole everybody comes over to see the baby is
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: more of like a formality for this episode. Again, to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: try and highlight that they are one cohesive family unit.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But we know they ain't.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: They are not, I don't think. But I did want
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to mention Dayton because you had brought it up. But
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the scenes with Dayton this episode, he looked so handsome.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I thought so too. Looks like he's in the gym
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: or something. He's slimming down. He's getting some muscles. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he was looking really handsome. I thought so, too.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Robin's jeans aren't all that bad.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Not all that bad. Sorry.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: That's so mean.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: She looks just like Alice, her mother. I know. She
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is going to age exactly like Alice as well.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think she's going to look exactly like Alice
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and Cody's going to be stuck?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got the facial structure that she's got, right?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: And she does seem to be going... like in terms
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: of her body composition, she seems to be going the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: way of Alice, which there's nothing wrong with that. But
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, just, and I think I said it a
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: few episodes ago, every single time I see Alice's sour,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: dour disposition, I'm like, Ooh, I don't like her. And
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I do feel that Robin gives some of that energy
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Dour, sour. melancholy Eeyore don't like.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Well, and her parents just in general give me weird vibes.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Like I just, I've always felt that way. They're super weird.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Chris Hansen, where are you at? Googling. But like all
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: of the other families, like all the other wives and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: their families don't give me weird vibes. Like I love
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Janelle's mom. I think Christine's mom is nice.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Love Annie.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Mary's mom was really great. And even Cody's moms were fine. Yes.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm just like, Robin's parents are weird. Yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Something weird going on there.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I just think it's super bizarre. And then we get
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to the preview for next week's episode, which is hopefully
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: only going to be 45 minutes because I can't do this.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I believe it's only 45 minutes. Yes.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And we have Mary again, discussing her terrible relationship with
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Leon and how she really wants to try and get
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Leon back into her good graces. And then we of
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: course go to Hawaii for spring bake. And I can't
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: remember what happens on that trip.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think that there are some Scarman.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: between Leon and Mary I think that they have a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: confrontation on a deck or something and Leon I just
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: remember feeling like Leon was really really harsh with Mary I.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Can see it and I think it's great that TLC
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: is funding this trip for them because there's no way
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the Browns would be able to afford this on their own.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Because it's not only the 23 people in the family going,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: but then we have to bring Mindy.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Probably Caleb.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: We're bringing Caleb.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Michelle.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Michelle. And one of the grandmas, I think Christine's mom probably.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, dude, where are y'all staying? They're probably
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: going to stay at some booty ass resort. You'll have
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to tell me if you recognize.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I'll be checking it out. I'm like, what island did
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: they go to? I'll have a look-see and let everybody know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: And then we have like some segments with Logan and Michelle,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I think, and Caleb and Maddie when they're in Hawaii
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and we talk about their relationship.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Sorry. And I'm bored. Literally through this whole episode, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: was fighting sleep so hard. I was like, I should
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: just go take a nap because this is putting me
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to bed.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It was bad. It was a bad episode.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It was very bad.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And that's really all we could squeeze out of it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I think we've only been talking for maybe a half
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: an hour.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There just wasn't anything there. We were like Robin in
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the Creek mining for gold or panning for gold. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: there was nothing there. So sorry about that, guys. Sorry. Um,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is there anything else that we should say to these
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: beautiful raccoons before we get up on out of here?
• 31:04
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• 31:06
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• 31:08
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• 31:11
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• 31:13
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• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We will be back later to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: keep on talking to you. Until then, please do not
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: forget that we have nothing but love for you. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: peace out.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Bye. Bye, guys.