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Star Wars Hyperspace Stories Grievous Review CCLXXXI · Star Wars Alliance

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Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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Speaker 2: Hello. Let's welcome back to another episode of Star Wars
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Speaker 2: Alliance your home on Geek Ultimate Alliance Podcast Network, and
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Speaker 2: I'll thanks Star Wars. I'm your host as always, Katie,
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Speaker 2: and with me as per usual. It's Clay. Clay. How
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Speaker 2: are you doing today?
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Speaker 3: I am actually doing pretty good. I see a very
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Speaker 3: long night in my future and probably not sleeping, so
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Speaker 3: I have to first edit this. I'm gonna edit this,
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Speaker 3: oh yeah yeah, But immediately after I have to do
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Speaker 3: something for Volume Comics that I have been kind of
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Speaker 3: procrastinating on and I want to get it done before
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Speaker 3: the weekend. I want to get it done before the
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Speaker 3: weekend because this Saturday, I'm gonna be at Chicago Comic Con,
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Speaker 3: so I don't have any time to really do anything
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Speaker 3: on the weekend, and I asked off for both Saturday
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Speaker 3: and Sunday. Sunday, I am literally just like staying in bed,
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Speaker 3: like I am. I know I'm gonna do a lot
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Speaker 3: of walking on Saturday, so I'm just gonna be like, hey,
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be in bed. I'm not gonna do anything.
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Speaker 3: Probably look at my phone every once in a while,
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Speaker 3: so in order to kind of prep for Chicago. I
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Speaker 3: want to get as much done as I possibly can.
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Speaker 3: So I have one project that I need to do
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Speaker 3: immediately after I finish editing this episode, and then after
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Speaker 3: I'm done with that, I have to prep our kitchen
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Speaker 3: for more maintenance people to come into the kitchen again.
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Speaker 3: Because Abby is still seeing water underneath the sink that
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Speaker 3: is not coming from our pipe. So I don't know,
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Speaker 3: your whole kitchen torn apart. I don't know, and it's scary.
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Speaker 3: So I have to prep the kitchen, clean out the sink, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, do everything that I can to make it
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Speaker 3: all nice and actually like manageable for a maintenance guy
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Speaker 3: to come in and like look at it. So I
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Speaker 3: have to do all of that, and then guys, remember
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Speaker 3: the morning, and then I have to go at three
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Speaker 3: am in the morning, exactly. I am somebody with ADHD.
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Speaker 3: Let me just let me like this is so disgusting
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Speaker 3: and embarrassing. I'm just going to quick photo. This is
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Speaker 3: right next to me. There's just bottles and bottles of
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Speaker 3: bottles and cans and bottles and bottles and bottles. That's
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Speaker 3: kind of all over the house. But there's it's it's
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Speaker 3: in stations. So Abby's like, that's claystation one, station two,
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Speaker 3: and it's finally gotten to a point where Abby's like
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Speaker 3: clean it now, and I'm like, got it. So I'm
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Speaker 3: doing that tonight as well. So I'm doing all of that,
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Speaker 3: and then if I attempt to go to sleep after that,
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Speaker 3: I'm sleeping through every single alarm. So I'm just going
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Speaker 3: to stay up, take a shower. Thankfully, the coworker that
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Speaker 3: I stream after at work, he is not coming in tonight,
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Speaker 3: so I'm going to go in early.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you're gonna start yes, so hopefully you
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Speaker 2: could get off a little earlier.
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Speaker 3: Yes, But also if I wanted to stay because I
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Speaker 3: asked off on Saturday, I can still get my hours.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be zoom zoom zoom, zoom, zoom zoom zoom. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So I have been drinking a lot of water. Yes,
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Speaker 3: I have been drinking a lot of water. But also
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Speaker 3: I think it was actually Brent who reminded me that
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Speaker 3: these are a thing we've been talking about, like what
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Speaker 3: the release schedule of Daredevil would be like, Uh, they
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Speaker 3: just released it like literally a couple hours before it
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Speaker 3: was releasing yesterday. So we were like, oh, crap, is
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Speaker 3: it all gonna drop it once? What's gonna happen? Blah
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Speaker 3: blah blah, And Britt was like, well, if two or
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Speaker 3: three episodes drop it once, I guess I'm just gonna
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Speaker 3: take caffeine pills. And I'm like, I have caffeine pills.
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Speaker 3: I forgot I have these. I could just use those
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Speaker 3: instead of like going out for soda and energy drinks
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Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. And I can still drink water,
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Speaker 3: so I might be like just packing that into my
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Speaker 3: backpack for work from now on if I have need
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Speaker 3: to do this again. But I'm not gonna make it
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Speaker 3: a habit, because I did at one point make it
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Speaker 3: a habit when we were watching stuff at like two
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Speaker 3: am for Star Wars Alliance and stuff, and uh, those
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Speaker 3: were crazy days and the only reason why I was
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Speaker 3: doing it because of course Amberlin was an infant and
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Speaker 3: I was already needed this stay up for her anyway.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's it's today, today, today, slash tomorrow
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Speaker 3: is gonna be a little crazy, and I.
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Speaker 2: Just felt trauma life update.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know that I'm just going to crash
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Speaker 3: when I get home, which is going to be for
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Speaker 3: the best. So I think the last time I did
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Speaker 3: and ready to go for Saturday. Yeah, the the literal
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Speaker 3: last time I did this, I came home and I
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Speaker 3: literally slept for like five hours. So yeah, that that's
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Speaker 3: that's how that's how my day is going to be
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Speaker 3: going and how it is going. But guys, this is
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Speaker 3: not just a therapeutic podcast. This is a Star Wars podcast.
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Speaker 3: And we kind of looked and scoured through some stuff.
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Speaker 3: There's not really any news out there in big updates.
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Speaker 3: There was one new I think short TV spot somewhere
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Speaker 3: for Mandalorian gro whu. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I haven't been watching those, mainly because I'm not really
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Speaker 2: present on social media anymore.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Plus I'm kind of done with the trailers. Yeah, like
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Speaker 2: another big one comes out.
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Speaker 3: Unless there's a really big one, then I will go
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Speaker 3: ahead and watch it. Otherwise, I think I'm done with
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Speaker 3: it also, and I'm kind of just wanted to be
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Speaker 3: surprised in the theater. One thing I will say though,
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Speaker 3: that I did not know was a thing until I
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Speaker 3: was looking for news for today. Apparently there is a
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Speaker 3: contest for the Mandalorian Grogu premiere.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that for Disney Plus perks.
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Speaker 3: Yes, for Disney Plus perks Disney Plus subscribers, excuse me.
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Speaker 3: You can submit an entry once per day all the
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Speaker 3: way up until April sixteenth. And I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how like long this has been going
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Speaker 3: on already, so I'm probably like way behind if I even.
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Speaker 2: I think for those you still have to pay for,
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Speaker 2: like your flight and stuff.
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Speaker 3: This one actually says that everything is included. Oh okay,
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Speaker 3: then I might which is really which really surprising for
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Speaker 3: Disney to do. Yeah, and I can double check it
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Speaker 3: was Star Wars News Net that did it. Yeah, right here,
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Speaker 3: So the premiere it says right here, the trip in
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Speaker 3: cludes hotel, airfoil round trip transport to the hotel, any
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Speaker 3: one hundred dollars cash or cash equivalent. So I'm assuming
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Speaker 3: that the one hundred dollars cash would probably be for food,
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Speaker 3: your your per diem basically. Yeah. So I think that's
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Speaker 3: pretty cool that they're willing to do that kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: I might have on it just for kicks and giggles
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Speaker 2: and see what happens. So the other bigger piece of
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Speaker 2: news that I would say is the the AI. The
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Speaker 2: open AI generator guy a guy the ai Open Ai.
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Speaker 3: Yes, open ai is a.
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Speaker 2: Video generator tool. Sora is shutting down, and with that,
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Speaker 2: Disney has completely dropped out of their contract to out
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Speaker 2: of produce AI things.
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Speaker 3: Out of their contract with open Ai. Apparently, they did
9:12
Speaker 3: come out with a statement saying that they will look
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Speaker 3: for other means of AI that respect the content and
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Speaker 3: the creators behind it. That's kind of an oxymoron, but
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Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure how that's gonna work.
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Speaker 2: You know, well because looking at the Moana live action trailer,
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Speaker 2: that thing looks AI as crap.
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Speaker 3: Just saying.
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Speaker 2: We'll leave it at that, but we're super happy by
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Speaker 2: the zews. Less AI is good AI.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, I think this is this is
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Speaker 3: a huge win. It has been I think since December
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Speaker 3: that we have just been seeing loss after loss after
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Speaker 3: loss after loss on open ais front. And I hope
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Speaker 3: it's just like the beginning. Yeah, because we have seen
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Speaker 3: that even in small towns, like people who actually fight
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Speaker 3: for their town are getting data centers completely canceled, which
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Speaker 3: I think is really really cool. And like.
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Speaker 2: What yeah, like my biggest issue with it is in
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Speaker 2: this generation, uh like creative generation, I have to use
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Speaker 2: it for work now, so I.
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Speaker 3: So this is something that me as like I've had
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Speaker 3: a moral dilemma recently for myself. I now own a
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Speaker 3: business and I am wanting to create a website and
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Speaker 3: an app. AI used in a proper sense for technoya
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Speaker 3: and building. I have now since learned asking somebody to
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Speaker 3: build a website or an app without using AI is like.
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Speaker 2: Basically non existent right.
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Speaker 3: Now, basically non existent currently right now, I've had a
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Speaker 3: lot of people laugh at me, a lot of people
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Speaker 3: say hey, good luck. And it has been a huge
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Speaker 3: like learning experience of saying, hey, as long as AI
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Speaker 3: is not touching the content of which I am actually
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Speaker 3: putting on my website, that is okay. I have always,
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Speaker 3: since starting this business, have had the idea of no
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Speaker 3: AI is AI excuse me, and with the idea of
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Speaker 3: somebody bigger doing the same kind of concept that I
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Speaker 3: am doing, but openly saying hey, we're using AI for everything.
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Speaker 3: It immediately like grinded my gears. I'm like, okay, this
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Speaker 3: is gonna motivate me anymore, Like even more, I'm not
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Speaker 3: gonna use AI for anything. And like I said, it's
12:29
Speaker 3: been a huge struggle for people in tech to like
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Speaker 3: not embrace that. It makes things so much easier. Coding
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Speaker 3: is a lot easier. I've I've learned a little bit
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Speaker 3: of how like the coding is actually like you're able
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Speaker 3: to use AI as like an assistant for like copying
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Speaker 3: the code and like everything else and like doing all
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Speaker 3: of this other stuff. So I'm learning a little bit.
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Speaker 3: I can never do it myself, but I'm learning because
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Speaker 3: of the experience of me trying to get around it
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Speaker 3: for this specific use. When it comes to the content,
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Speaker 3: Like we said, one of the big reasons, one of
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Speaker 3: the big reasons why Disney is stepping away is because
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Speaker 3: for the past like two months, there has been AI
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Speaker 3: slop video after AI slop video of Star Wars characters,
13:21
Speaker 3: of Marvel characters, and overall Disney characters all over the
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Speaker 3: internet right now. And they've thrown cease and desist letters
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Speaker 3: and everything else, but people still create them. People still
13:36
Speaker 3: go out of their way because you know, the internet
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Speaker 3: is free. And so by taking all of that and
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Speaker 3: saying hey, you can no longer use our ips and
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Speaker 3: rescinding that one billion dollar contract that's gonna hurt open
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Speaker 3: AI a ton.
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Speaker 2: It makes me super happy about the content creation stuff.
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Speaker 2: Let's be clear, I don't want to get fired for
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Speaker 2: said AI related Yeah I think that about.
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Speaker 3: Covers, Yeah, I think so. And that does bring us
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Speaker 3: to our main topic, which is Star Wars hyperspace stories.
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Speaker 3: Grievous is our main topic of the day. The last
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Speaker 3: time we talked about one of these was uh correct.
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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go ahead and start with my one
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Speaker 3: qualm of this story. In Qui gon Jin, there was
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Speaker 3: like three separate stories that connected the over arching story.
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Speaker 3: I was anticipating that in this book. I was anticipating
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Speaker 3: because it says hyperspace stories plural. I was expecting there
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Speaker 3: to be multiple stories, like an anthology for Grievous, that
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Speaker 3: would connect to a grander story. This is just one story.
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Speaker 3: The story is good. That story is good. It like
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Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily bridge a huge gap in anything Clone
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Speaker 3: Wars related. Honestly, like if you watch all of Clone
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Speaker 3: Wars in Attack of the Clones, you're not thinking like,
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Speaker 3: oh man, how did this happen? And like this fixes it.
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Speaker 3: This is literally just a sidestep into the wars that
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Speaker 3: you know tells a little bit of a story on
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Speaker 3: Grievous and how he hunts quote unquote his Jedi.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I felt like the story kind of takes
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Speaker 2: place early on in the Clone Wars where Grievous has
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Speaker 2: kind of been heard of, and I wanted that aspect
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Speaker 2: of it. I wanted this to be an introduction to
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Speaker 2: Grievous as a character, and it's not quite there. I
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Speaker 2: feel like it maybe was originally and then they were told, yeah, no,
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Speaker 2: you can't do that, and then so they had to
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Speaker 2: move it along because at one point the Jedi Master
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Speaker 2: involved in the story says, oh, I've I've heard of you,
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Speaker 2: but then he himself General Grievous and he got the
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Speaker 2: Jedi Master goes, uh, oh, so you got a promotion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that one was a little weird. That back
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Speaker 3: and forth was a little weird. I did clock that
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Speaker 3: this is.
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Speaker 2: Master Bardiff. Shoot, dang it, go back. This comic Guys
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Speaker 2: is written by Well, while Clay finds that it's written
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Speaker 2: by Michael Mareki, illustrated by Chow Felipe I totally butchered
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Speaker 2: that colored by Dan Jackson, lettered by Comic Crafts Tyler
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Speaker 2: Smith and Jimmy Bettencourt, and the cover art is by Michael.
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Speaker 3: Cho Cardiff Bay.
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Speaker 2: Cardiff Bee, Cardiff I think, is it Bake Hardiff? Oh no,
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Speaker 2: it is Cardiff By You're right.
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Speaker 3: Okay, because he said because he said general Bay, so
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming that is his last name.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got called Cardiff by Kenobi at one point
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Speaker 2: and I got confused.
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Speaker 3: But I really enjoy the art. I think, like when
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Speaker 3: you really look at it, I think the art really
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Speaker 3: is appealing towards grievous. Yeah, and his stature in the
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Speaker 3: book is menacing, like he is claimed to be a
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Speaker 3: beast in this book, which I really do like. And
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Speaker 3: like I said earlier, he hunts his Jedi. He really
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Speaker 3: does feel like like a Craven the Hunter or a
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Speaker 3: death stroke. Like he feels like an a Assen in
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Speaker 3: this book, which I really do love. There's a really
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Speaker 3: cool panel in the very beginning where he is kind
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Speaker 3: of in front of the moon. In front of the moon.
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Speaker 3: I love this panel, absolutely gorgeous. And then there's another
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Speaker 3: panel where Bail is kind of looking or Bay not Bail, sorry,
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Speaker 3: Bey is looking into the forest because he has an inkling.
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Speaker 3: He has like a feeling of something and like it
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Speaker 3: goes deeper into the forest and deeper and deeper and deeper,
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Speaker 3: and then you just see the Yellow Eyes of Grievous.
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Speaker 3: That panel also was really really cool. But Katie, the
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Speaker 3: overall story, how did you feel like.
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Speaker 2: This?
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Speaker 3: I know sounds harsh, and again I think every story
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Speaker 3: out there is going to have its fans, and I
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Speaker 3: don't mean it to sound as harsh. But is this
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Speaker 3: a story that was truly needed for both sides of
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Speaker 3: let's say Grievous of course because of course this is
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Speaker 3: a Grievous title, or within the of Course Star Wars Mythos,
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Speaker 3: the Clone Wars timeline.
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Speaker 2: I feel like if this so I approached this from
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Speaker 2: two different ways, The story as is, I feel like
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Speaker 2: needs more characterization for Grievous, because this feels like we're
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Speaker 2: kind of getting a protagonist's view into Grievous instead of
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Speaker 2: a story from the antagonist point of view, Whereas I
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Speaker 2: felt like the Qui gon Chin story handled it a
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Speaker 2: little bit better in regards to Okay, we're having multiple
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Speaker 2: people tell this story, but we're approaching it in the
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Speaker 2: right way by still getting that characterization of Qui kN Jit. So,
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Speaker 2: as is, the story needed more characterization. If this had
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Speaker 2: been an introduction to like Grievous's first introduction to the
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Speaker 2: galaxy as a whole. I would have said this was
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Speaker 2: a perfect story, but it's not. So those are my
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Speaker 2: two like bigger critiques is there's not enough characterizational Grievous
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Speaker 2: for what the story is. This would have been a
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Speaker 2: better story if it was an introduction, if it was
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Speaker 2: Grievous's introduction to the galaxy.
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Speaker 3: And this is, like I said, it's a quick read.
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Speaker 3: I want to say, like not counting it page for page,
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Speaker 3: this feels like maybe a fifty five sixty page book.
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Speaker 3: It might be a little bigger, and you can on Wikipedia,
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Speaker 3: all right, there you go. I knew it was less
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Speaker 3: than one hundred this story. I want to ask, do
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Speaker 3: you think we will ever get a before Android book
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Speaker 3: on Grievous? Like, uh, will we ever get the story
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Speaker 3: of how he is created?
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Speaker 2: At this point? I don't think so. No, if this
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Speaker 2: was not that story to tell who Grievous was. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I don't picture expanding his story really because his story
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Speaker 2: that we know of is super short. Yes, so maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe like a cameo kind of how like we've gotten
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Speaker 2: like a Beers cameo in the Republic, you could maybe
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Speaker 2: say that. I don't think otherwise.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I can see that, yeah, because like even in
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Speaker 3: the beginning when you have Dooku, he kind of explains
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Speaker 3: a little bit like, oh, previously you were this, like
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Speaker 3: like he kind of hints at that story, but we
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Speaker 3: are here, you know. Yeah, I I think you're right.
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Speaker 3: I think that if honestly, if they were going to
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Speaker 3: put that story out there, it would have been around
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Speaker 3: the freaking twenty fifth anniversary of the character's death, you know. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: of episode three. What did you think about the character
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Speaker 3: of Cardiff this uh seemingly air against Jedi possibly, like
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Speaker 3: the way he even explains himself is like he is
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Speaker 3: kind of like an anakinesque character with kind of big head,
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Speaker 3: kind of show off the you know type of character.
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Speaker 3: What did you think of him? Overall?
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed his character a lot because it was it
24:32
Speaker 2: was super intriguing to see how he approached his faith
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Speaker 2: as a concept versus like how Obi Wan and Anakin
24:44
Speaker 2: really approach the Jedi order. I feel like is he
24:48
Speaker 2: kind of it felt like a more Christianity take, if
24:56
Speaker 2: that makes sense, because it was very much like a
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Speaker 2: like believe like the best in people like I don't
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Speaker 2: always see but I'm gonna believe still like I have faith.
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Speaker 3: The conversation between him and the Clone, I can't remember
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Speaker 3: the clone's name off the top of my head. I
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Speaker 3: thought that was a really interesting It's Max, by the way, Max. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 3: between Cardiff and Max. I really really liked that conversation.
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Speaker 3: But it was too short. It was too little. It
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Speaker 3: was too little of a moment because you you feel
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Speaker 3: like that's gonna linger right the idea of faith because
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Speaker 3: at the end, at the end, when they're you know,
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Speaker 3: fighting Grievous, they're trying to get off the planet and
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Speaker 3: also kind of to let people know what this thing is.
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Speaker 3: Cardiff and his team are off to a planet in
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Speaker 3: wild space that they don't really know a whole lot about.
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Speaker 3: They haven't really been in contact with this planet. The
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Speaker 3: Republic hasn't in like a millennia, so like it's really
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Speaker 3: weird that they're kind of, you know, reaching out, so
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have Cardiff and his team go check it out.
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Speaker 3: Of course, we find out that Grievous is there, and
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Speaker 3: Grievous is literally there just to get Cardiff and his
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Speaker 3: team away from the war within itself. So near the end,
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Speaker 3: when it's starting to like get to the peak and
26:38
Speaker 3: like getting ready to resolve. You would think that the
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Speaker 3: idea of faith would really come back and hit home,
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Speaker 3: but it's kind of stale, Like the idea of faith
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Speaker 3: doesn't really hit as hard as the actual conversation does
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Speaker 3: when the conversation happens with Max and the the reason why,
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Speaker 3: I think is because Max, because technically these clones are children.
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Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of concept of life, which
27:16
Speaker 3: is also something that a lot of people need to
27:18
Speaker 3: think about when they're having these topic conversations in comics
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Speaker 3: and everything else. He asks, like, you said something about faith,
27:26
Speaker 3: but like what does that mean? And it's really funny
27:28
Speaker 3: because that's exactly what like a child would say, and
27:32
Speaker 3: he explains it. He's like, oh, well, faith is this
27:35
Speaker 3: you know, I have faith in the Force, and I
27:36
Speaker 3: know that the Force is this all, you know, all
27:40
Speaker 3: encompassing thing that is with me and you, and you know,
27:43
Speaker 3: no matter what happens, I know the Force is always
27:46
Speaker 3: with me. And he's like, oh, well, so the force
27:52
Speaker 3: kind of defines you. He's like, oh see, that's totally
27:55
Speaker 3: something different, yea. And he starts to talk about like, oh,
27:58
Speaker 3: you guys were bred to be warriors and you kind
28:01
Speaker 3: of have this idea of like, hey, this is what
28:02
Speaker 3: I have to be. Like, I really liked that psychology there.
28:09
Speaker 2: It was a super nice dynamic to explore, Like, oh,
28:15
Speaker 2: so you believe in a greater power that has control
28:17
Speaker 2: over all things, so you don't have freedom of choice
28:21
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, you do. Doesn't mean that it's
28:24
Speaker 2: not going to know what you're gonna do and stuff,
28:29
Speaker 2: but like you believe in the forest. Therefore you have
28:34
Speaker 2: freedom of choice because you're picking what you think.
28:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, I always I've.
28:39
Speaker 2: Always struggled with that concept myself. So this different perspective.
28:45
Speaker 3: And it does really well with this concept of the
28:49
Speaker 3: clones because we know that there are clones that are
28:54
Speaker 3: a deserters eventually, so those clones have their free will
29:01
Speaker 3: and are able to live their lives. Excuse me. So
29:06
Speaker 3: I really like all of that. I just think that
29:09
Speaker 3: it didn't quite hit home at the TSUE when I
29:13
Speaker 3: do feel like it should have, because there is this
29:17
Speaker 3: moment with Cardiff when he's fighting grievous when he does
29:22
Speaker 3: mention faith again and it's all too quick. It's just
29:26
Speaker 3: boom boom, boom, boom boom. You know. Really love the art.
29:31
Speaker 3: I really like all of the panels of the fight.
29:35
Speaker 3: I think it looks great, but again, I just think
29:38
Speaker 3: it's way too quick to really hit home the key
29:43
Speaker 3: points that the story was trying to hit. I do
29:49
Speaker 3: like because even the moment where he is on his
29:54
Speaker 3: communicator and he is talking to the residents of the planet,
30:01
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, I really hope that you come
30:03
Speaker 3: and you you know, you protect your planet and all
30:06
Speaker 3: this other stuff, and like you feel like they're not
30:09
Speaker 3: gonna come by that sentiment right just by the sentiment.
30:13
Speaker 3: By by the next page, they're already there. So like
30:16
Speaker 3: it again, just a little too short.
30:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially like I had issues with the planet
30:24
Speaker 2: itself as well, because this is a new planet, I believe,
30:32
Speaker 2: and they're very like harmonious, very one with nature, like
30:37
Speaker 2: give and take kind of thing. We have our boundaries
30:40
Speaker 2: from the giant dinosaur creatures, which were kind of cool
30:43
Speaker 2: on the planet, Like they have one side of the planet,
30:46
Speaker 2: we have the other basically, and they're like, oh no,
30:51
Speaker 2: there's no droids here. But then you have like a
30:53
Speaker 2: hollow communicator in a way to communicate, like if you're
30:56
Speaker 2: not gonna have a droid, but you have everything else. Yeah, that.
31:03
Speaker 3: Was a little weird. It's there. I feel like there was,
31:11
Speaker 3: you know, definitely some plot holes, because like the big
31:16
Speaker 3: thing is that Cardiff finds General Grievous's foot print yep,
31:22
Speaker 3: and he's like, hmm, I think that's a droid and
31:27
Speaker 3: then he like talks to the resident or whatever and
31:30
Speaker 3: she's like, oh, no droids, never, no droids, no.
31:32
Speaker 2: No, no.
31:33
Speaker 3: And it does sound weird, right, It sounds weird to
31:37
Speaker 3: be so against it when you have the technology of
31:41
Speaker 3: everything else. Right Again, it might be an idea of like, oh,
31:47
Speaker 3: they're too far away from the core systems and so
31:51
Speaker 3: like maybe they can only have so much, you know,
31:54
Speaker 3: things like that, but like maybe it's just the way
31:59
Speaker 3: that we're it, you know.
32:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it felt like they had kind of taken
32:06
Speaker 2: maybe the path of the open hand and kind of
32:09
Speaker 2: ran with it in a slightly different direction. I also thought,
32:16
Speaker 2: and I think this would have been a cooler plot
32:18
Speaker 2: to the story. I thought that they were called, like
32:22
Speaker 2: the Jedi get called because Grievous has a blue lightsaber, oh, because.
32:28
Speaker 3: They thought, oh it's it's.
32:30
Speaker 2: Instead of Grievous saying like, hey call them, like I
32:35
Speaker 2: thought it would have been, oh, like, clean up your
32:38
Speaker 2: mess because your Jedi came here and is destroying everything.
32:42
Speaker 3: I thought, I think that would have been a little
32:44
Speaker 3: bit more of an interesting story, because again you have
32:48
Speaker 3: this idea of if this is truly early in Grievous's days,
32:53
Speaker 3: nobody knows who this person is, right yep, So I
32:57
Speaker 3: think that would have been a really nice play on it.
33:01
Speaker 3: I did get a little bit of a chuckle for
33:03
Speaker 3: the fact that this planet does look like Earth a
33:07
Speaker 3: whole lot. Yeah, I was like, did they do that
33:10
Speaker 3: on purpose? Like do you could have literally chosen any
33:13
Speaker 3: colors for this planet? This is literally Star Wars. You
33:16
Speaker 3: could color anything, and you decide to color it green
33:19
Speaker 3: and green and blue. They're like the people here like
33:29
Speaker 3: when when you first see like a settlement, like you
33:32
Speaker 3: do see nothing but like tense. You don't see any
33:36
Speaker 3: like industrial buildings.
33:38
Speaker 2: And I think that's because the dinosaur ran them out.
33:41
Speaker 2: So they're like they have moved their homes and are
33:46
Speaker 2: intent because of the dinosaur. I don't know what the
33:50
Speaker 2: dinosaur is actually called, guys, uh uh.
33:53
Speaker 3: They don't actually give them a name in the entire book.
33:56
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I was seeing too, Like I
33:59
Speaker 2: think even yeah, it's just called big creatures at the
34:05
Speaker 2: back of the book, and Greets is creature in the
34:09
Speaker 2: drawing such the back of the book. So uh, the
34:14
Speaker 2: dinosaur like creatures, I think they ran them out of
34:19
Speaker 2: the village basically.
34:23
Speaker 3: Makes sense.
34:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I I I think that like, even
34:28
Speaker 4: even though we have the critiques, there was like a
34:35
Speaker 4: good story in there.
34:37
Speaker 3: Great art. I think that the great the the art
34:41
Speaker 3: is great. There was even like a small little like
34:47
Speaker 3: there there's there's humor in this book also. I think
34:49
Speaker 3: everybody needs a little bit of humor, like with the
34:51
Speaker 3: Clones at the very end, like please tell me this
34:54
Speaker 3: thing flies uh.
34:56
Speaker 2: And Cardiff saying like, you know, they used to call
35:01
Speaker 2: me arrogant, and then anaking came along.
35:04
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly. So yeah, I think this is
35:08
Speaker 3: a good story. I really really do. I think it
35:13
Speaker 3: just kind of stepped on its own toes with being
35:16
Speaker 3: a little too short. If this was I would say,
35:23
Speaker 3: twenty more pages make it an even you know, one hundred. Yeah,
35:27
Speaker 3: I think that you could have easily done, you know,
35:31
Speaker 3: maybe a small little flashback here or there for Grievous
35:35
Speaker 3: to kind of get some of those characterizations a little
35:38
Speaker 3: bit more information on him because he still is an
35:41
Speaker 3: ominous character, and even more of of Cardiff. You could
35:47
Speaker 3: have some of those splashbacks be with him as well,
35:49
Speaker 3: to get a little bit more characterization with him.
35:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this. I think dark Horse and Marvel
35:57
Speaker 2: has fallen prey to the shrink flation because I feel
36:01
Speaker 2: like these graphic novels used to be one hundred and
36:05
Speaker 2: eight pages and now they're about twenty pages short, which
36:10
Speaker 2: is about five or which is from five issues to
36:13
Speaker 2: four issues basically now.
36:16
Speaker 3: One thing that I never really put into thoughts, and
36:22
Speaker 3: I don't think it should be that big of a
36:24
Speaker 3: deal because again, I've been out of the comics game
36:27
Speaker 3: for about a year now, but I am curious if
36:32
Speaker 3: the tariffs have anything to do with the size of
36:37
Speaker 3: comics nowadays. Now, I would say that. But one thing
36:44
Speaker 3: that I have been seeing a lot of complaints on
36:47
Speaker 3: is apparently with Marvel books, every other page now is
36:54
Speaker 3: an AD. And it's okay, it's getting like really really
37:00
Speaker 3: bad with Marvel. Apparently, like out of like twenty four pages,
37:05
Speaker 3: you have thirteen of them being ads, so you're only
37:10
Speaker 3: getting twelve, if not eleven pages of story, which is insane.
37:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to talk about that next week with
37:22
Speaker 2: a legacy of Darth Vader right of Kylo written.
37:26
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. But yeah, I
37:31
Speaker 3: think that is it for the review on Hyperspace Stories, Grievous.
37:38
Speaker 3: Do you have any last thoughts or anything.
37:41
Speaker 2: No, I think I'm good. I think it's a decent book.
37:46
Speaker 2: If you're a Grievous fan, I would say pick this up. Otherwise,
37:50
Speaker 2: maybe if you're a Clone War fan.
37:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if anything, I think this does add
37:57
Speaker 3: a little bit of course of lore on you know,
38:01
Speaker 3: more Jedi out there. This gives you know, writers out
38:07
Speaker 3: there for future stories of future actual novels, like hey,
38:12
Speaker 3: we have an extra toy in the sandbox, you know,
38:16
Speaker 3: so you know, I think it would be kind of
38:18
Speaker 3: fun to see Cardiff in other places, Like I would
38:22
Speaker 3: like to see, you know, how well does Cardiff and
38:25
Speaker 3: Ana can play together, you know, if they are both
38:29
Speaker 3: the arrogant types, the big headed types. I would like
38:32
Speaker 3: to see how they work together. But I think that
38:36
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