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Boston College Game Preview · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast with my partner
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  bronzy glow, I am Curtis Wilson, Brian, how it goes on?
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  This hump day, buddy. Good man.
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  Back on a Wednesday night back at home feeling good.
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  How about you man tired long, Wednesday night long, Wednesday.
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  In general, from work and other activities and run around like a
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  chicken with my head cut off and watching some action.
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  Where Whoa, all the terrible handoff where you mentioned it
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  to me as before we got on. Kaleo Templeton.
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  Yeah, absolutely tearing it up to return.
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  Touchdowns already for him. Why did why exactly did he
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  leave? That's a great question.
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  Seemed like we for whatever reason couldn't find anything to
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  do with them but Central Michigan certainly figured out a
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  bunch to do with him. I mean a lot, a lot of what he
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  does is similar to what What Tay does for us.
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  Truly, he has a probably a little bit more top end in terms
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  of his running but yeah I don't know that one that's still a
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  head scratcher for me. It's crunch or maybe one of
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  those interviews one day, right? Yeah.
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  Yeah. Get him on here.
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  Hey man, yeah. All those over down.
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  Yeah, we can always speculate it least where he went was
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  literally like right down the road from home it.
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  It like, he was from Florida came to Tech and then
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  transferred to like Texas, like, that's true, you know.
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  So yeah, did he? Nope.
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  But they have left 83 wide open multiple times and Central.
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  Michigan goes to the red zone. I'm sure there are some folks
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  out there tonight who are partaking and Max and gambling,
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  some pretty wild lines out there.
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  I know the one I was looking at was like a 20 and a half point
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  spread like Ball State and in Akron baby.
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  Yeah, so we're officially in matching territory for an
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  action. Lines are always crazy too.
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  Well the gate with, that was crazy, and As most of the games,
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  what they're usually coming off a bye.
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  So they're on a 10 day, rest plus 10 days to prep, so, it's
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  always pretty crazy. But, Brian, we have a ton to
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  unload tonight, one. Yes, going to be a packed one,
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  guys. So buckle up.
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  Let's roll. Let's roll.
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  Let's start with this. This is not college football
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  related at all, Run For the First Time, 26 years.
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  Since you are a Middle School, 7th grade, next County.
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  The Atlanta Braves close out the World Series last night.
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  It was a beauty. This was one that had me nervous
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  after dropped in the third game, back in Atlanta.
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  Had to take it back to Houston but Braves come out and front to
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  back. Just dominating a game six to
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  close out the World Series. So I'm happy.
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  It's been a been a long time coming.
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  You know, if you asked me a few years back when we kind of
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  unloaded some of our our veteran Talent, if I thought we'd be
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  doing this this quick, I'd say and if you told me at the
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  beginning of the Season that we were going to lose our Ace and
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  our best all-around player. Yeah.
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  Before the All-Star break and we'd still make a playoff run
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  and win the World Series. I'd say nope but here we are and
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  it's Kind of sweeter because of how on probable the
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  circumstances were very umbrella.
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  Belie mean yard below 500 just three months ago at the
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  beginning of August and went on a tear to end up what like 17 18
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  games above 500, right? Y'all are like it was it was it
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  was a big, big clothes, massive, close 14 games about 500 at 88.
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  All the entire month of August was as lights out of these.
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  You can really get. It's true.
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  Ooh and then you'll make good sound moves getting Duval.
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  You know. So Larry I've got early in the
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  season by the way that home run last night has still not landed.
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  Oh my God, the track are the tracks.
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  Nah, so there's apartment complexes across the street.
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  That was sitting there and watching the game in his
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  apartment complex. Might do me this tonight at
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  baseball. I can't.
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  Just watching the aim of the apartment complex and he kind of
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  looks out and he looks down and he sees the ball that landed
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  outside the stadium. So he walks down and goes and
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  gets it but man was cool things for you, man.
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  I mean, the Brazier good in the 90s and the 2000s.
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  The last few years here to get back there and capture it on
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  probable season. It's awesome.
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  Not a Braves fan. But what a team goes on a run
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  like that, you have to respect it.
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  All right, we're going to turn off the baseball news baseball's
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  over until next spring, which we'll talk about it.
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  Then I'm sure, he'll, I think left is the parade.
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  Only thing left is the parade in Atlanta, and it has not been one
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  there and a long time. All right, Bud, biggest news
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  over the weekend college football wise, Gary Patterson
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  out at TCU, You know, he left on his own terms, they gave him the
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  opportunity to coach out the rest of the season and then
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  ended at the end of season, he didn't want to do that.
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  But, you know, there it is Brian.
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  There's the job. There's the job, I am.
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  I know, we've had people tell us that the TCU boards are running
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  rampant home bringing for Wednesday back.
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  But he's got to do some stuff right now, probably get there.
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  Yeah, he probably has some work to do the rest of the season and
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  it's the big questions going to be is are they ready to give
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  Fuente that rehab. Look thinking that change of
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  scenery being in his Wheelhouse in terms of recruiting and just
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  a general comfort with TCU, whether that's something that is
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  worth the gamble for them. Because obviously anybody that
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  especially in power 5 team, that's taking Wednesday.
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  After this stint at Virginia Tech is going to be taking some
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  degree of risk, right? So that's the question.
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  And obviously, the other thing that we can look at here, is
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  that with Gary Patterson out, you know we've talked about that
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  trickle-down this is more potential trickle down to those
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  G5 positions. Yeah, that could be a likely
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  landing spot for 20 and could soften some of the, the buyout
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  situation we have in that contract.
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  Exactly. And you make the point about
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  them, taking a risk with him, but I don't really think it's a
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  bigger risk, as some people are making it out to be.
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  And some people can say, well, he's been 500 here, the last
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  three seasons. It's true.
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  We're not going to deny that, but we can tell you is this when
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  he is running a certain part of the team, the team plays better.
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  And last year, he went over to help support to defense and that
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  made sense. If your Texas Christian
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  University and you feel like he's the guy what he did 10
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  years ago coordinating the offense under Andy Dalton to an
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  undefeated season number to finish in the polls Rose Bowl
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  win over a great freaking Wisconsin team.
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  Yep I mean essentially I think he's going to walk into some of
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  these jobs and I think the first question they're going to ask
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  him is fill out your staff. Yeah, that that's going to be a
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  big one. That's going to be the big would
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  obviously the probably the biggest thing in terms of, you
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  know, potential for long-term success at Virginia Tech outside
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  of the recruiting angle is the aspect of sticking with staff.
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  That is not achieving at the level that we want them to.
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  Yeah and not not moving on fast enough from those those staff
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  members and then and it, we're looking at a situation where
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  some stuff like that, be the thing that is costing him.
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  His job more so than the in-game decisions more.
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  So than the the recruiting side of things that hasn't lived up
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  to potential. if you're going out there and winning games,
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  some of that matters, less if you're still winning the games
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  and if you're taking care of business week to week, You can
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  Overlook some of those. Some of those blemishes there.
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  Yep. Now he he has made the
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  corrections in the recruiting game will talk about a picked up
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  later. But you mentioned trickle-down
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  effect Brian. Well there's one guy.
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  Likely not going to be trickling down anywhere and Jeff trailer
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  the coach yet. You tssaa got extended.
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  They put a little more money into the football program.
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  And I know a lot of it was reported pretty quickly after
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  Texas Tech came open that they'd reached out to him.
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  So that guy looks like he is probably not moving anywhere.
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  And I've got a probably say I think Jeff Chandler trailers in
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  his mid-50s, that's probably it. Then if he's if he's sticking at
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  UTSA then he's probably not going to go anywhere for the
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  rest of his career. So there's one of those
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  potential Landing spots for for Wednesday that's now gone.
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  Yeah, you know, you get one higher level job that, you know,
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  potentially looks like a somewhat better fit.
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  But then you got as you said a trickle-down role that looks
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  more or less locked up unless I guess somebody Walks up to Jeff
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  trailer and gives him exactly 100% the fit and look and
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  everything that he wants at this point.
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  But you know, that that extension came through.
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  We also had PJ Fleck, get an extension earlier today, seven
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  years, I mean, I know he had a good season two years ago last
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  year, wasn't great. The first couple Seasons.
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  What that's I mean, is that just saying because he's an alumni He
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  is an alumni there, right? Like as an alumni of I think.
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  So every this is what happens when you have a long day.
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  Parts of the brain just shut down.
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  No, no he played for Northern Illinois, so no real not like a
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  HomeTown tie their, so seven years for them, that is a long
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  extension. Obviously, the agents, got the
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  whispers about teams interested in him and maybe coming after
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  him. So they like rowing the boat
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  there. They like role in the boat.
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  This is Virginia. Tech fans will say you just made
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  a good mistake because if he starts stinking Up, you're going
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  to have to determine how much money is, it worth to buy out
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  his contract? Um, yeah, yeah, there is a
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  similar similar boat to what we were in a little bit later in
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  the process in terms of when the extensions coming down the pike.
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  But you know if they're if they're technically not counting
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  2020 against him, they're pretty much extending Fuente off the
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  same strength that we extend. It is extending Fleck out the
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  same spot that we extended. That's kind of what they're
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  doing because that was a rebuild job there and he went five and
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  seven and seven. And six is first years then 11
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  and 2 and obviously 6 into this year.
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  And now because chaos is happening Coastal chaos has
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  found its way to the Big Ten West with everybody losing.
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  They have a shot to make the championship game.
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  So, pretty crazy on that, Brian. Let's let's flip to this next,
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  we're talking about other conferences.
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  Cfp poll was released yesterday, and here is our top 10.
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  You guys didn't hear number ten, seven, and one.
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  Notre Dame. Number 98 a.
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  No Wake Forest. Number 82.
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  Surprising went to a lot of people.
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  Nononono Oklahoma at number 8 in front of them number seven
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  Michigan at seven. And one the one that irritated
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  me more than anything Cincinnati at 8 and 0.
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  And number 6 of how stayed at 7 and 1 and the team in front of
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  them at Oregon at 47 and one, and then Michigan state aid.
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  No Alabama, 71 and Georgia rightfully at a no.
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  So So what do we think? I don't like it.
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  Well, which part? I mean of the top-10.
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  What don't you like? I think they got Oklahoma too
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  low. I think they've got Cincinnati
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  too low. I think they've got Bama too
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  high. I think they've got a situation
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  where more than likely if both Oregon and Ohio State went out
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  Ohio State's probably going to jump or again even though they
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  want head-to-head. There's a whole lot of shit.
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  I don't like in there. All right, the most pissed, the
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  one that I'm more pissed off about with this than anything is
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  just you put a one laws Alabama team in and Say, well, our tests
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  is, there's the best in the country that's in the country.
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  Lost the game to at, who was at that point.
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  I'm a meddling, Texas A&M team. They they're, they're somehow
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  ranked in the top 15 at 14 at 6 and to shake my head at that
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  steam. It almost lost.
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  Colorado had a look too impressive.
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  Lost by 10 to Arkansas, couldn't get anything going.
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  I don't like them. If you want to put them in four
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  or five, Cool. That's fine.
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  What I also don't like is the Cincinnati one.
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  They are the only. There are two teams that have
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  beat top 10 teams currently right or three.
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  Yep. Michigan State, organ and
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  Cincinnati ones in a two of the top for one is not I hate that
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  absolutely hate that people can say, well, strength of schedule,
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  the strength of schedule shouldn't to me is the biggest
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  garbage ass thing in college football.
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  These schedules are made years upon years in advance.
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  You can be making the schedule, like, right now.
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  And 2021 Virginia Tech is making the schedule we're putting
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  Alabama on our schedule and one of the 2029, some absurd.
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  What if they're one of the Probably, that's probably the
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  earliest vacancy they have, you put that in now and what if
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  they're trash in 2029, when we beat Alabama down, Tuscaloosa,
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  they're five and seven, they're not good.
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  Well sorry. We don't get to make these
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  decisions every year which is something that to me should be
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  changed. Its just be like we're wiping
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  all these contracts literally. We're going to go in
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  negotiations in the offseason and figure it out.
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  Let me for years out for years out.
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  Should be the biggest window to to and and that's if that's, if
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  you're doing some sort of like, home-and-home arranged or two,
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  for one or something like that. Yeah.
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  All right, let me ask this. John you mentioned to me earlier
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  today. Well actually what we'll hit it
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  later. We're going to hit a little bit
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  later on what you're going to put you like to see done.
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  So but overall, if we look at the top 10, There's going to be
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  a big tenting. Yeah, there is It's simple as
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  that. If organ holds set serve their
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  in, and then it's kind of the whole, if Georgia beats,
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  Alabama, Alabama, is out, George's in and then you're
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  going to probably see Cincinnati in Oklahoma.
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  Battle it out for the last spot. Yep.
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  But the bad thing is that Cincinnati is probably going to
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  need every every team, but in front of them and two teams
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  behind them to lose. And they still might need help.
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  Because of the extra Conference Championship game.
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  Can I just say what I hope happens?
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  Well now they'll have a conference Championship Game,
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  AAC has a conference Championship game, so they will
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  still have a chance. Wow, what?
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  I really hope happens. This is like my hope.
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  My hope is Alabama beach. Georgia, they get, Georgia and
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  Alabama, and they keep Oregon and Ohio State in, and they keep
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  like for unbeaten teams and five, six, seven, eight,
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  because, The outcries will happen, the garbage and everyone
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  will be like you need to get the playoff not in 2026, like in
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  2025, because clearly it's biased.
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  Yep. So we're going to hit on this in
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  a little while. We got a little segment coming
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  up here, that Brian's going to hit a little bit more on this on
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  but Brian, let's give kudos out to Trey Turner.
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  Not only the ACC wide receiver of the week.
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  He was also acknowledged by the Senior Bowl as the offensive
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  player of the week. Obviously, you see here that you
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  will expectation Trail, probably be invited and how about just in
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  general we talked about Tray stat lines.
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  I mean, is he finally taken the step that we expected the last
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  few years this year? Well I think will help them
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  especially in the last couple weeks is, he's finally getting
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  the Volume that I think, you know, we expected in terms of
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  targets and the more he's been targeted.
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  The more he's male, he's out there making plays.
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  And I think it's twofold. I think we put a focus on
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  running the ball and that's really trickled over into the
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  passing game because if you can run effectively a lot of things
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  open up for the passing game, and when we are passing the
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  ball, it's been a more concerted effort to get Trey the ball, get
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  trade the ball, where he can get some run after the catch.
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  It hasn't just been the shots down the field.
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  He's been getting the ball in space in the middle of the field
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  a couple times last week. So, it's a little bit of a
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  different different look, and hopefully we continue that and
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  Trey continues to have a another big week here for us.
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  Absolutely, just just Target that.
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  Man, the ball, get him in space and that's something.
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  You know, you've been screaming for a long time and I think
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  probably what he did this week on tape, especially showing the
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  breaking of the tackle, and the rack ability, as much as you
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  want deep threats in the NFL, the NFL is even in that game.
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  Now where it's space. We're going to get you the ball
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  in space. You must be able to break
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  tackles. You must be able to have change
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  of Direction. So the last few weeks it's Billy
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  really been on display for him to hopefully move his that's
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  what he's excelled at. I mean his career I mean you
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  look at what he's done with jet sweeps, being able to break, a
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  tackle line of scrimmage, get a feel good Vision, break, some of
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  those for long gains. You still good at going up and
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  getting the ball but he's so Oh, good with the ball after the
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  catch. And it's in, it's not just his
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  speed, but he just has a knack for kind of seeing the right
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  angles, which is helped him break tackles, which has helped
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  him, find find Lanes. So, again, kudos to him.
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  Big shout-out to Trey, Turner big week.
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  Hopefully, we'll see another one.
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  Abso-freakin'-lutely. All right.
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  Brian. Let's go hit some notes here
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  tomorrow. Connor got dinged a little bit
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  and they were asked about it on Monday and he was official that
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  he practiced on Monday but let's be honest.
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  Mike Hawkins look good on say yeah yeah yeah I was actually I
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  was I was pleasantly. Prized with how Hawkins came in
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  and played. It was, I didn't really see much
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  of a drop-off, which was probably not something I
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  expected necessarily but it turned out to be a good thing.
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  He came in there, made some big plays, you know, we held them
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  pretty much in check for a lot of the lot of the time he was
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  out there and I think the biggest thing is that there were
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  not any glaring issues where you said, all right, we got
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  somebody. And therefore for tamari went
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  pretty smooth. But, you know, good.
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  Good to have tomorrow back on the field, practicing Monday.
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  So that's a good sign. I know we didn't get any updates
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  on Mario or Luke so we'll see if if they are available going into
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  into Friday. Yeah, against me.
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  No, I have nothing. No comment, nothing.
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  Nothing, like, come on. Coach.
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  Like give us something. You kind of Wonder those two
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  that they're both very important Kendricks on obviously, the
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  obviously with the defensive line rotation.
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  And Luke obviously holding down the left side.
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  Who do you think more important? Who do you want back in there?
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  I would say Mario. I think the the line held up
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  fairly well in Luke's, absence. I think just depth-wise by me.
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  Both areas are concerned depth wise, but as much as we rotate
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  and need to rotate, I'd rather have more of that depth on
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  defense. Got you.
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  All right Brian, let's roll on here.
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  This was done. Last this commitment for read
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  Pulliam, the three-star out of Life Christian Academy here in
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  the RBA down in Colonial, Heights, made after we record
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  it. And with sort of the
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  adjustments, we had to make to our episode recap for Georgia
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  Tech. We didn't get it in here, but
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  we're getting a shoutout now. 63, 220 pounds.
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  He's listed as a wide receiver. I do not see him.
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  Ever taken a snap at wide receiver for the Virginia Tech
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  Hokies as he was recruited by Ryan Smith and Jack Tyler.
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  What do you think he's three-star?
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  Got ready to like an 84. So, solid rating for a guy who
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  had no rating Just a few weeks ago.
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  Yeah, I mean that's going to be an interesting one.
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  It looks like he could be a, we talked about Hawkins, we talked
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  about Jamari, this, this could be our next nickel.
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  If you think about the responsibilities there in the
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  guys that were there recruited him, that seems to fit a little
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  bit, right? So we'll see, he could end up
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  giving us some wide receiver death, but I look for him to
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  play that nickel position. As in the long run.
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  Absolutely. I don't know, 63 220, there's a
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  lot you could do with him. I think that's one of those guys
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  that probably classify as Moore's an athlete than a
• 25:17
  specific position. So see where he fits best, put
• 25:22
  in there, let him run early. So again but again it's another
• 25:28
  Virginia pick up, its another 80 for pick up.
• 25:31
  Again, we talked about the refocus of Virginia for this
• 25:34
  class and it continues to pay dividends.
• 25:37
  I mean, you know, Brian, I think Think looking just the other
• 25:40
  day. We're still holding strong at 19
• 25:43
  in the country, and a lot of the big dogs are kind of ahead of
• 25:48
  us. So if anything, we're not going
• 25:51
  to move to too much because the fluctuation probably going to
• 25:54
  come after 1850 probably between 15 and 1 tween.
• 25:58
  Now and signing day. Yeah, we might back out some
• 26:02
  like just outside the top 25. But I don't see us going much
• 26:05
  outside of that and probably could still stick in the 25, you
• 26:12
  know, this, and that's overall, you know what?
• 26:15
  You expect every year? Yeah, from the Hokies top 25
• 26:19
  class, and we need to start seeing some more development.
• 26:24
  We need to start seeing how the classes are stacked together in
• 26:30
  a more logical fashion to give this roster more depth and the
• 26:36
  things that it needs. But if you're looking at just a
• 26:40
  one-off situation here, twenty twenty twenty two is probably as
• 26:45
  good as we've seen in a few years.
• 26:48
  And it looks to be a pretty well-balanced class.
• 26:52
  All things considered? Yep.
• 26:54
  It's going to be really interesting to see, giving us
• 26:56
  just about three and a half months.
• 27:01
  I'm doing it right. November December, January,
• 27:03
  February at, three and a half months.
• 27:05
  You'll get your recruiting recap episode.
• 27:09
  Was we don't break it up into two segments.
• 27:12
  We talked a little bit about the guys, but then Brown, we get
• 27:14
  more of a break, go into more of a breakdown of each guy, once
• 27:17
  February rolls around because somebody's that's usually RS.
• 27:20
  Use our official kickoff to the, to the new season.
• 27:23
  Exactly. All righty.
• 27:26
  Ryan yesterday here in the state of Virginia, we had elections
• 27:31
  for death, major State offices. The governor lieutenant
• 27:34
  governor, and the attorney, general.
• 27:37
  And I'm sitting here and I'm stealing something from From my
• 27:40
  buddy, Wes McElroy who a lot of times on his election days, he
• 27:44
  will do if you were president of sports.
• 27:46
  Well, that's too broad. What I wanted to do.
• 27:51
  What I wanted to do. Good, sir was bronzy glow.
• 27:54
  You ought to governor of college football.
• 27:58
  What is the thing? You would change?
• 28:02
  All right, so you know how I feel about the playoff and
• 28:06
  wanting a 12 team playoff. Right?
• 28:09
  So this is this is going to be a twofer.
• 28:12
  Okay. Give me my 12 team playoff and
• 28:16
  outside of the automatic bids that we have already discussed
• 28:21
  previously on this, bring back the BCS to fill out the out at
• 28:25
  large all mr. Controversy here, why?
• 28:31
  So why do you want the BCS versus just a committee?
• 28:35
  So when we look at the college football, playoff top 10, N and
• 28:40
  just the rankings in general, what I'm seeing is AD emphasis
• 28:46
  of the actual games being played on the field and a focus and
• 28:51
  emphasis on eye test and brand. Do you have anything present to
• 28:59
  me about this? I mean see Alabama.
• 29:04
  See the lower ranking of Cincinnati relative to its
• 29:09
  competition. Cincinnati, if you say what you
• 29:12
  will about their whole strength of schedule, Cincinnati has
• 29:14
  better wins in Alabama right now. .
• 29:19
  Full fucking stop. So I mean don't give me this.
• 29:22
  Well, who are they going to play?
• 29:24
  Yeah, well well this is the this is the college ranking for this
• 29:28
  fucking week. Not the end of the season.
• 29:31
  Alabama is not the second best team based on their resume.
• 29:39
  Yeah, I agree with that, I agree with that wholeheartedly but
• 29:44
  like what's the difference? I mean, what's the BCS saying?
• 29:49
  I mean, you're stomping on it, but what's the BCS saying?
• 29:53
  Like nursing different. Yes, yes.
• 29:55
  Oh there's a simulated BCS versus college football.
• 29:58
  Playoff the big thing is you've got George is still one in both.
• 30:05
  Those two is senses to is Cincinnati, all he is Oklahoma.
• 30:11
  So Cincinnati's up four points, Oklahoma is up 650k 5.
• 30:18
  Then you got bamboo It for Michigan State.
• 30:20
  I mean the the qualms I have in this top five.
• 30:25
  So you got banned with the Michigan State and Ohio State.
• 30:27
  The only thing I do different in that one is that I swap Oklahoma
• 30:30
  and Michigan State and then call it a fucking day.
• 30:33
  Everything else is exactly as I would line it up, okay?
• 30:37
  So what you're saying is what you want to move to is basically
• 30:42
  what a lot of people stressed about hate about the BCS.
• 30:45
  They were like, well it's just a computer.
• 30:49
  But it wasn't, it was the Harris poll, which is a human Pole.
• 30:54
  And it was computers. That would you would you still
• 30:57
  have some sort of committee with a voice like would you have the
• 31:01
  Harris? Poll is what we're going to
• 31:02
  have, then we're going to have the computer rankings and
• 31:06
  they're going to have essentially a four-layer
• 31:09
  approach to where everybody gets 25%.
• 31:12
  Say no. I think I think I would just go
• 31:19
  computer and Harris and I tell You why?
• 31:24
  Because yeah, I think what we're seeing you.
• 31:28
  Look at March Madness. The reason that, that type of
• 31:33
  committee works is because They can still put teams in there
• 31:40
  that they feel deserve and there can be upsets and the upsets can
• 31:44
  matter, but there's still enough Brand Power where that doesn't
• 31:48
  potentially water down the marketing angle, for the
• 31:53
  Network's, the media, the in the NCAA as a whole.
• 31:58
  So they're not looking at it from a brand person, whether its
• 32:02
  inherent, or or purposeful would use there's some A bias there
• 32:07
  with the brands and the narrower you get with that, the more
• 32:11
  problematic, it becomes with, you know, 68, it doesn't become
• 32:16
  as much of a factor eventually, they're going to get enough
• 32:19
  cream. That makes it to the final four
• 32:21
  to sweeten the pot. Yeah.
• 32:23
  Because usually in the NCAA, your Kansas duke-carolina UCLA
• 32:30
  released on get one big name and about it into at least second
• 32:34
  tier, if not higher tier Making it to the final four.
• 32:38
  So you basically what you're saying the NCAA tournament is
• 32:41
  because of the way it's set up. There's going to be a bunch of
• 32:43
  teams that are in that a name-brand regardless, how
• 32:47
  football there's a lot of name brands, but it's more
• 32:51
  attractive. When you're talking about for
• 32:54
  teens to immediately attract towards the most known brand in
• 32:59
  the most, you know, the most regarding conference, you also
• 33:03
  only have three event games for the college for All playoff,
• 33:07
  whereas you have a lot of event games in the NCAA tournament,
• 33:11
  was the 32 16800? Why?
• 33:16
  It's why those first two days are awesome.
• 33:18
  Exactly. So buddy, you are now the
• 33:26
  governor of college football. What you got for me?
• 33:31
  Well, this Governor say is mine's not as deep as yours
• 33:34
  mines on the most simplistic fixes, that would a help.
• 33:39
  The marketing, the college football, The Branding and help
• 33:42
  the fans. Monday night ain't the place for
• 33:46
  the title game. I'd love to see it on a Saturday
• 33:50
  night, but it'll always overlap with the NFL playoffs that will
• 33:54
  never happen but normally that week leading up to is our set of
• 34:00
  wild card games. Thursday night, 8:00, 8:05 kick,
• 34:06
  not 835, not 840 killing us here 8:00. 805 kick Thursday night.
• 34:14
  Okay. Okay.
• 34:16
  You know, you think about The title games in general.
• 34:20
  And you know the amount of people that are having usually
• 34:25
  it's line between week 17 or the first weekend of wild card.
• 34:29
  So you know, the biggest thing with it is you want to draw more
• 34:35
  eyes. A lot of people are football,
• 34:37
  outcome Monday, whether they like college football or not, if
• 34:41
  you watched all the Wild Card stuff or the week 17 and FL
• 34:45
  stuff. you know, it's one of those things where I just feel
• 34:52
  like they're missing out on a boatload.
• 34:55
  I do say this. A boatload of people.
• 35:00
  You know, usually they're averaging somewhere between 20
• 35:03
  and 25 million and that's a lot of people don't get me wrong.
• 35:06
  Yeah. But if you put it on Thursday
• 35:09
  night in a, you'd have just just hear me out here for whoever
• 35:13
  network has it. So you're going to come in
• 35:15
  Monday and it's going to be NFL whatever week it is, right and
• 35:20
  FL Paul. Yep.
• 35:22
  That's when they're trying to get the game ready.
• 35:25
  So you don't have any build-up time.
• 35:27
  So you roll in Monday, NFL talk, cool Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 35:31
  Thursday. There's going to be a mix,
• 35:34
  right? There's going to be a mix and
• 35:38
  primarily Wednesday, Thursday is your leading into that game.
• 35:41
  The amount of Buzz that is going to be generating board.
• 35:45
  And then I'm one of these. I think if you could move to
• 35:48
  Thursday, I think probably they would average six to eight
• 35:52
  million more. They'd be in the 30 to 40
• 35:55
  million range versus the 2220 and for us as fans, It would
• 36:02
  make it a lot easier to stay up on a Thursday night or go out to
• 36:08
  a bar or have your buddies over. It's like tomorrow Friday and
• 36:13
  it's an early Friday so it might be the first day of the new year
• 36:16
  right there. There you go.
• 36:19
  So there you go make those governors of college football,
• 36:22
  we will change everything for the better trust us.
• 36:26
  Trust us, Brian wants to bring back the BCS to get rid of any
• 36:29
  bias. I just want to Thursday night.
• 36:31
  anybody's, but as much bias as possible, I want a Thursday
• 36:35
  night title game so I don't if I drink too many of these I only
• 36:40
  can it's only one day to feel bad about it.
• 36:43
  It's true. And, you know, when you think
• 36:45
  about it, it's awkward taking the Tuesday after going back on
• 36:49
  a Monday, it's perfectly fine. Dropping a Friday in there and
• 36:53
  just roll it into a long weekend.
• 36:55
  Where were you yesterday? That's hung over?
• 36:58
  Yep. All right guys, before we get
• 37:01
  into knowing the enemy Boston College, we are going to take a
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  Now back to the episode All right guys, time for Know The
• 37:37
  Enemy. We're going to start with the
• 37:38
  offense this week of the Boston College Eagles Who currently sit
• 37:43
  at or and for coming in with a four-game losing streak offense.
• 37:47
  You look at the numbers are a little tricky because it's
• 37:50
  almost like the first four in the last four, you know.
• 37:53
  Look at all eight games, they're averaging, right?
• 37:56
  At 26 points a game. Not terrible close to 12 the
• 38:00
  pack, but if you look deeper the last four games, they're
• 38:03
  averaging. 10:00. They're averaging 10 points a
• 38:08
  game. The last four game, which is
• 38:10
  just absolutely Dreadful similar to that third down conversion.
• 38:16
  You look, they're about middle of the pack little bit higher
• 38:20
  the last four games 19 for 64. That is right at 30, 29 percent,
• 38:31
  it's not good at all. So clearly the loss of your
• 38:34
  Kovac is hurting them. And, you know, look, they're
• 38:39
  still a dangerous team and that if I work, will start with first
• 38:42
  bronze, a flowers, the junior out of Fort Lauderdale Florida
• 38:46
  Three Star when he came out 510, 177 pounds, 35 receptions 511
• 38:53
  yards, 14 46. Option two touchdowns.
• 38:58
  Now, this is something I just noticed.
• 39:01
  Did you know Brian his freshman year?
• 39:06
  Zay flowers got almost 200 rushing yards, so you did know
• 39:13
  that. So I mean, I don't expect to see
• 39:15
  him in the backfield or anything, but what is, what is
• 39:19
  he bringing to the table? Some guy we've seen multiple
• 39:22
  years now from DC, he brings a little bit of everything and
• 39:26
  they don't really use him in the in the backfield or on like jet
• 39:29
  sweeps or anything like that as they did a couple of years back
• 39:32
  but what they do use them as is they really light him up all
• 39:35
  over the Field, full route, tree it is that as compliment.
• 39:39
  He can re can run all the routes and do really everything that
• 39:42
  this offense asked of him. He's very quick.
• 39:47
  And so he can beat you deep, but they also run them on a lot of
• 39:50
  those stick move around, as well, to get underneath the DB's
• 39:53
  to keep the ball, matriculating down the field and they've had
• 39:57
  to do a lot more of that without jirka Vic in the game because
• 40:03
  they are not as good at pressing the ball down the field since
• 40:08
  he's been down. So he's been working a lot more
• 40:11
  underneath the DBS than taking the top off in recent weeks.
• 40:17
  Yeah, always been a good player, you know, for three years in.
• 40:22
  He's someone that to me, it's to me, it's germane Waller's job to
• 40:27
  just go Shadow him. In a sense like go out there
• 40:32
  he's their best. They don't offer much else
• 40:35
  besides him in the passing game from a wide receiver standpoint
• 40:40
  so you know just to me hold him between 50 and 75 yards.
• 40:47
  It's going to make this game. A hell of a lot easier.
• 40:50
  Yeah absolutely. If you can keep him under that
• 40:53
  80-yard threshold then I feel pretty good about the overall
• 40:57
  matchup. Absolutely.
• 41:00
  Fibrin. Not gonna talk about any other
• 41:02
  wide receivers. But somehow, Boston College
• 41:05
  keeps finding six-foot-six 250-pound tight ends.
• 41:09
  They found another one from the transfer portal from Jackson
• 41:13
  State in trade. Barry was a two-star when he
• 41:16
  came out a few years ago again, 66 250 pounds 18, receptions,
• 41:24
  288 yards and 3 TDS Jacksonville State last year when they played
• 41:30
  33 reception 534 yards in just a touchdown so clearly he does
• 41:34
  have an offensive game that can be beneficial to a team.
• 41:39
  What are you seeing from him on tape with his first year up in
• 41:42
  division 1 football. Yeah.
• 41:45
  I mean, he's a little bit more of a Joker Style tight in than
• 41:49
  that prototypical tight in that. We've seen Boston College
• 41:55
  implemented, recent years. And they've had some success
• 41:58
  with that type of tight end. This is, this is guys a little
• 42:01
  bit different, he's adequate, but he's not an overly
• 42:04
  impressive blocker. So he's not going to go out
• 42:07
  there and have a great impact in the running game but he's also
• 42:11
  not a liability either. He's above average after the
• 42:17
  catch for a tight end but you know, where he really excels is
• 42:23
  on those. I just stick movers like curls,
• 42:27
  but also on seams and crossers. That's where he really makes his
• 42:31
  bread and butter because he does a good job of getting the ball
• 42:33
  to get it up field. He had a play against Colgate
• 42:36
  early in the season, where he hurtled a DB and then ran into
• 42:41
  the end zone. So he's got some athleticism,
• 42:44
  can make some plays. It's a guy.
• 42:46
  You got to get to the ground once he gets the catch, all
• 42:49
  right. If we see him, come on in line,
• 42:53
  you're saying he's not a liability, but if he's coming in
• 42:55
  on the inline, is it something like a 60/40 65/35 split the
• 43:00
  okay, they're passing. He's on the inline.
• 43:03
  Don't let it fool you. They'll mix it up here.
• 43:07
  I mean, just because he's in line, doesn't mean it's not,
• 43:10
  it's not coming at you, okay? But like I said, he's, it's not
• 43:14
  that he's a liability, it's just that, You know, he's not going
• 43:18
  to go out there and give you a B+ grade in his in his run
• 43:23
  blocking. Got you makes sense?
• 43:27
  All right, Brian, let's turn it over now to the running back.
• 43:30
  Pat girl was a third five-foot-eight 214 pounds.
• 43:36
  What do they always call that the rolling bowling ball of
• 43:39
  butcher rolling? The butcher knives 582, and
• 43:42
  that's crazy. Sighs 690 yards, so far.
• 43:46
  Or this year, everything about six yards of carry with five
• 43:51
  touchdowns. Now, the way to kind of look
• 43:54
  it's almost go look at, you know, your macro and you see
• 43:57
  those numbers and think and this guy's on pays to easily rush for
• 44:00
  over 1,000 yards. Probably going to have seven to
• 44:04
  eight touchdowns but when you go micro on it, he's really had two
• 44:08
  big games and that was the game against UMass and the game
• 44:11
  events Mizzou where he went, both over 150 yards.
• 44:17
  But the one thing I kind of see impressive with him, he's only
• 44:19
  been under four yards, a carry in one game that was the temple
• 44:23
  game. He was a 3.7.
• 44:26
  So even on the games where he's not getting 100, he still over
• 44:30
  four yards, a carry most of them a little bit over four and a
• 44:33
  half. He was a half three star when he
• 44:36
  came out of pharaohs Hills PA. So what are we seeing with him?
• 44:40
  Because if I look at their offense, It's a lot predicated
• 44:44
  on what he does. Yeah, I mean, stop me if you've
• 44:49
  heard this one before a Boston College running back that runs
• 44:52
  hard and physical every running back they've ever had.
• 44:58
  And this was no different. He's not very Fleet of foot.
• 45:02
  I mean, he's got, he's got some speed but he's not running away
• 45:06
  from the fastest defenders on the field.
• 45:09
  But he's got some sneaky wiggle and he's best Tween, the
• 45:13
  tackles, he does lose some Effectiveness when plays get
• 45:17
  strung outside, just because he's not necessarily outrunning,
• 45:21
  safe, teaser, or other dbe's to the edge, but when he hits
• 45:25
  between the tackles gets to the second level, he can make guys
• 45:28
  miss in space, and not a home run hitter, but a guy that's
• 45:33
  going to wear you down as the game goes along.
• 45:35
  So that's somebody that early in the in the game.
• 45:39
  We need to keep behind the sticks on first down.
• 45:42
  Don't let him get into a rhythm. Because that's going to, you
• 45:45
  know, come back to bite us later in the game here on a bench and
• 45:49
  not for your foot. Also stolen hand, I think he has
• 45:52
  one reception all year. So definitely North the South
• 45:57
  Runner there. But again, there he has
• 46:02
  potential to have a big Breakout game.
• 46:05
  I know, UMass and Mizzou, you know, they are what they are but
• 46:10
  it's always you see, you got do that.
• 46:11
  It's always I think we're going to Call to Khalil Herbert
• 46:14
  effect. You see a guy have a game like
• 46:16
  that? It's in there and how we play
• 46:18
  against him is essentially what's going to happen.
• 46:22
  Now? Also, Brian how the offensive
• 46:26
  line performs is probably going to be a big thing for Pat and to
• 46:30
  get his numbers. Give me some insight.
• 46:33
  What type of offensive line are we looking at here today?
• 46:36
  It's a very experienced line, they get a good push and they're
• 46:40
  very physical at the point of attack when you think of a
• 46:42
  Boston, It's offensive line. This is very much in that mold
• 46:47
  and they really kind of gelled a little bit this season to
• 46:53
  probably to be a little bit better than I think we
• 46:54
  anticipated overall. They are a little bit hamstrung
• 46:59
  in the fact that not being able to press the ball downfield in
• 47:04
  the last few weeks has started to show in in their overall
• 47:09
  output numbers. But it's still an overall, a
• 47:12
  very Very good offensive line, bread and butter for this
• 47:16
  offensive line is power encounter.
• 47:20
  They do a really good job pulling getting up in the in the
• 47:23
  hole and leading up for the running back.
• 47:26
  So look for that. Those two plays is kind of being
• 47:28
  their bread and butter throughout the day as far as
• 47:32
  past Pro definitely above average, they do a good job,
• 47:37
  especially on the interior. Not letting pressure get into
• 47:41
  the face of the quarterback but there they are.
• 47:43
  Little suspect at the tackle position.
• 47:46
  Yeah. Talking about them being passed
• 47:49
  Pro, you know looks about average.
• 47:51
  It's about right there. Giving up about two point.
• 47:53
  Three sacks per game, which is about 78 time for 78th with
• 47:57
  numerous team. So somewhere, right down there
• 48:00
  and run in the middle, here's kind of a shocker because when
• 48:04
  we talk about Garland, you hear 690 yards in eight games, you
• 48:08
  probably would expect this number to be higher.
• 48:10
  They are only averaging 150 to rushing.
• 48:13
  Yards per game. And again, I think is what you
• 48:16
  just mentioned there. Is that through the Deep threat
• 48:19
  of down, field is going away more and more safety's coming up
• 48:24
  to the line. It's like he can't get it down
• 48:26
  there. So why are we going to give them
• 48:30
  more opportunity to do what they can do best now, Brian, this is
• 48:34
  the one that shocked me and maybe you can explain, maybe
• 48:36
  it's the type of offense, they offensive line scheme, they have
• 48:40
  They are 100 and giving up tackles for loss that almost 6
• 48:44
  again. You think about it?
• 48:48
  That usually going to be 1, right?
• 48:49
  At 1 / Drive usually teams average between seven and eight
• 48:54
  drives a game. So right at 1 it's just just
• 48:58
  it's just making mistakes. Or is this something based the
• 49:01
  offensive line in their scheme? It's a little of both probably
• 49:07
  again I haven't watched all of their films so I was just basing
• 49:10
  it on the the two games that I'd look at, but just looking at.
• 49:15
  What they're doing because their bread and butter is a power is
• 49:18
  the counter when you got lime and moving across the formation.
• 49:22
  Sometimes that has a propensity to create negative plays because
• 49:26
  there is voids that have to be accounted for where the, where
• 49:30
  the lyman's pulling on the backside, okay?
• 49:33
  And sometimes that can create penetration, sometimes they can
• 49:36
  get the running back off, they're off their Mark there and
• 49:39
  create those. Those - plays where is with a
• 49:42
  Zone. Unless there's something
• 49:44
  specifically. That the defense brings in terms
• 49:47
  of a run blitz or something like that.
• 49:48
  Often times you don't get that crazy penetration into the
• 49:52
  backfield that you get in those powers and counters that BC
• 49:57
  likes to run. Yeah, absolutely.
• 50:00
  Alright Braun. We're going to get into the
• 50:02
  quarterback room next and I didn't read this.
• 50:05
  I'm going to you because you mentioned it just beforehand.
• 50:08
  What were you reading about field?
• 50:09
  Your kovich I've seen some Rumblings on the twittersphere
• 50:16
  that Phil might be a go for Friday, nothing, confirmed
• 50:23
  nothing from a source that I would say is unimpeachable but
• 50:29
  enough Whispers, where it's something to look look for.
• 50:32
  Can I say something? Yeah, please let him be the
• 50:35
  starter short week in preparation.
• 50:38
  Coming back off my hand injury. Where you you know, if the hand
• 50:42
  injury Bryant Even if it's even if he's pulled go throwing,
• 50:49
  they're still not going to be 100%, right?
• 50:52
  Because, whatever, he had wrong with his probably affecting his
• 50:54
  grip in some way. So, yeah.
• 50:56
  Starting BC, please start them. They really have a decision to
• 51:00
  make. I know we're about to talk about
• 51:01
  the quarterbacks here, and we're actually going to talk about 3/4
• 51:04
  x now that we're looking at it. But yeah, yeah, there's really
• 51:09
  negatives to starting all three. I mean, grace, L can't can't
• 51:13
  push the ball down field. Old Moorhead is a freshman
• 51:17
  that's probably going to be prone to make mistakes.
• 51:20
  Yeah. You don't know how healthy or,
• 51:23
  you know, whether he's able to knock the rust off quick enough
• 51:25
  if you go with dr. Kovac.
• 51:27
  So there are negatives, to starting any of these three
• 51:31
  quarterbacks, but I'm going to start with grow cell here in
• 51:34
  terms of the breakdown. He's, you know, senior Redshirt
• 51:40
  senior the fact that he wasn't starting as a redshirt senior
• 51:43
  probably tells you He's probably not the first guy, they wanted
• 51:45
  out there, you know, he's good at throwing the underneath
• 51:49
  stuff. Especially kind of those timing
• 51:52
  routes tells you he's been in the system for a while.
• 51:56
  He knows what he's doing but he's not, he's just not great at
• 52:00
  stretching the field and creating explosive plays.
• 52:03
  The, the Deep balls don't have a lot of touch on them.
• 52:07
  They're often overthrown or not, not on target.
• 52:12
  Doesn't give the receiver a chance to really make The play
• 52:16
  and while he will run both by Design and scramble.
• 52:21
  It's not really what what his game is about.
• 52:24
  It's not really, it's either an asset or a liability, but it's
• 52:28
  just kind of something that that happens to keep the offense.
• 52:31
  Matriculating the ball down, feel, it's not something that's
• 52:33
  really that. They're scheming to really hurt
• 52:39
  the defense. It's more to kind of just keep
• 52:41
  things off balance. All right.
• 52:45
  And you know yourselves, just your typical for the typical
• 52:49
  six-foot-one 220-pound to the preferred walk-on.
• 52:52
  Not even a scholarship play. When you got there.
• 52:55
  You know, about plus years ago, 1191 yards under 60% at 57%,
• 53:01
  first completion, percentage six, touchdown seven
• 53:04
  interceptions. So obviously he is not lighting
• 53:07
  the world on fire and obviously after the shine wore off for a
• 53:11
  couple games. And after Djokovic went out the
• 53:16
  flaws and the ugliness is starting to show and it showed
• 53:20
  to a point during the Syracuse game that you already mentioned.
• 53:22
  They brought in and more hibs six-foot-six 225 M quarterback
• 53:26
  out Alexandria Virginia 3 star and I mean, he didn't have a
• 53:31
  great anyone like 6:15. So clearly he does not look
• 53:37
  ready. Do you agree with that?
• 53:37
  Brian. He doesn't look ready and it's
• 53:41
  and it's more of the game is still a little fast for him.
• 53:47
  So when I was looking at the tape, he has a much better armed
• 53:50
  and deep ball than grow cell and it's not even close.
• 53:54
  But he is slower with the timing and processing in the offense.
• 54:00
  He misses a lot when he feels pressure.
• 54:02
  Especially when the pressures in his face.
• 54:05
  He's a similar type of athlete to gracel, and he doesn't mind
• 54:10
  taking off, but that's not something that's part of his
• 54:12
  game. He did get banged up against
• 54:15
  Syracuse, so he was out of that game for a while, but when he
• 54:21
  was in there again, it, it looked good.
• 54:24
  Good when he had time when it was a quick, read his first read
• 54:29
  was there if he had to kind of look at the whole field and
• 54:34
  process and everything else that's when it became
• 54:38
  problematic for him. So I think he's just the game is
• 54:41
  still too fast for him at this point, and I don't know if they
• 54:45
  will feel comfortable going with him for four quarters.
• 54:49
  Well, thank you. We see him in this game, it's
• 54:51
  going to be very similar to how Syracuse saw him.
• 54:54
  All right. Well, it makes sense though.
• 54:55
  He came from Episcopal, you know, a private, you know,
• 54:59
  Christian School up in Nova and like you know they're playing
• 55:04
  teams like Collegiate not enough on Collegiate but it's lower
• 55:07
  level. The best team they played is the
• 55:10
  PowerHouse to math of this year and they got steamroll.
• 55:14
  So you know if you're telling me a guys coming from a league
• 55:19
  where it's elite competition, He could probably be more ready but
• 55:23
  he's coming from a lower level and you're trying to get him
• 55:25
  there he's built he's got the arm he's a year or two away from
• 55:29
  doing anything for them. So I'm almost to this bring
• 55:34
  whoever they want to start on a quarterback because none of them
• 55:38
  scare me but defensive illest Phil scares me.
• 55:43
  But I mean we don't know how much rust feels going to have
• 55:46
  and if he's still going to be healthy enough to get it done.
• 55:49
  I mean Phil healthy is Dangerous Prime, big been, truly the Phil
• 55:55
  Phil right now. I don't know what to expect.
• 55:58
  Well either. Whatever you want to say there
• 56:01
  were there is going to be some sort of rust there.
• 56:03
  If there's not some sort of, you know, issue with again, injury
• 56:08
  to the hand, getting the ball hits.
• 56:09
  How quick can he knock the rust off and is that hand going to
• 56:13
  affect how he plays the game now - its current state.
• 56:17
  Now, they could just say screw it, we need to get Bowl
• 56:20
  eligible. He's we Him on the field to win
• 56:23
  one of these last two of these last four games.
• 56:25
  So why not roll them out there now and try to knock it off and
• 56:29
  get a full week practice. So either way, I feel good.
• 56:32
  Now defensively, they're actually a pretty good defense.
• 56:37
  Brian 31st in the country in scoring given up, right at 21, a
• 56:41
  game, a top-15 third down, stop team, right at 30% is what folks
• 56:48
  are converting off of them. Good.
• 56:51
  Red Zone, team top 30 there, they've given up in 23 trips, 17
• 57:00
  scores 12, touchdowns five, five field goals, eight rushing for
• 57:06
  passing. And to me the name that caught
• 57:11
  my eye looking up and down was a guy.
• 57:13
  By the name of Jane would be six foot 220-pound defensive back
• 57:17
  out of one of the best high schools in the country.
• 57:19
  Saint John Bosco out in for Nia originally committed to FSU as a
• 57:24
  four-star transferred into BC, top 10 safety.
• 57:28
  When he came out top 60 player when he came out.
• 57:32
  So, a lot of the check marks are there and obviously would have
• 57:35
  the Florida state. The last few years with all the
• 57:36
  turnover, he looked elsewhere and he lighting up the stat
• 57:41
  sheet. Fifty six tackles two picks for
• 57:44
  pass, deflections of forced fumble.
• 57:46
  That was returned for a touchdown.
• 57:49
  I think you could be a problem. Yeah he pops off on tape.
• 57:53
  It's not even a joke. He plays that strong, safety
• 57:57
  boundary, safety Rover, whatever you want to call it in that.
• 58:00
  That 425 pressure D that BC deploys.
• 58:05
  He's the primary place I'd spill area Defender.
• 58:08
  He does a really good job of coming up and making stops in
• 58:12
  the Run game. He will occasionally get
• 58:14
  influenced but it's not something that's an epidemic.
• 58:19
  And he's really good in defending the past.
• 58:22
  I'd say above average in when he when he's matched up in man and
• 58:28
  really damn good when he's playing the zone.
• 58:34
  This is something, I'll also ask and it's not about going to pay
• 58:36
  daily. This guy went to the portal.
• 58:42
  Wow, we look at him. I mean, that's, that's shake my
• 58:48
  head at it because a guy like him, where we need some safety
• 58:51
  depth, would immediately help us out.
• 58:54
  And I don't know. Brian.
• 58:58
  Maybe I'm just, you know, maybe I'm just tickled, because he
• 59:04
  went in the portal after 2020. We were in need of 14, 20 21.
• 59:09
  That was long before hundred situation.
• 59:12
  Yeah. And I mean going out there and
• 59:14
  getting to would to hurt I mean no bring it in today and bring
• 59:18
  it in a player like would be. I mean that would have been you
• 59:22
  know, that would have made the safety core.
• 59:25
  Probably close to equal to what the the quarterback unit is that
• 59:29
  so, you know, that that would have been a big help no doubt
• 59:35
  and You know that that's somewhat of a knock.
• 59:39
  I don't know if that's just an evaluation.
• 59:40
  I know we had an inside track on knowing the type of player that
• 59:45
  tay was when for when Darryl Tapp is on the staff.
• 59:49
  So I'm sure that probably had some role there.
• 59:51
  But, you know, I wouldn't have had a problem bringing into two
• 59:54
  safeties. Even though I mean, tase a
• 59:57
  tweener, he could have played free and strong would be, is a
• 1:00:02
  prototypical, strong safety. Absolutely.
• 1:00:05
  Alright, next guy. Brian, let's talk about is their
• 1:00:08
  nickel corner or nickel backer Josh DeBary, 511, 176 pounds,
• 1:00:13
  thirty, eight, tackles for loss, to picks also forced fumble on
• 1:00:18
  his end Three Star. When he came out, what are you
• 1:00:21
  seeing from Josh? Du Barry?
• 1:00:26
  I mean, it's a nickel. It's that kind of nickel
• 1:00:29
  whipping that 425 he plays a very similar to Connor early
• 1:00:34
  rundown responsibilities they Some a good amount.
• 1:00:38
  He's got backs a contain. He'll match up man-to-man on
• 1:00:42
  slot receivers the whole gamut there.
• 1:00:45
  He's probably their most balanced run to pass player on
• 1:00:48
  the field. He does really good job both
• 1:00:51
  against the run and the past great tackler, pretty big hitter
• 1:00:57
  but also has the athletic tools to hang with some of those good
• 1:01:02
  slot receivers as well. Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  So a lot like Connor but built more like a corner than more
• 1:01:09
  like a linebacker. Probably probably a little
• 1:01:11
  little more of a corner lean there and better in coverage
• 1:01:16
  overall than Connor is. Um, how much will do?
• 1:01:22
  They will Personnel. Groupings, affect him getting on
• 1:01:27
  the field. Like if we stay in, you know,
• 1:01:30
  two tight end sets a lot with, we've been doing a ton Is he
• 1:01:34
  likely to be coming off the field or is he always there
• 1:01:37
  regardless? He's almost exclusively on the
• 1:01:40
  field and he doesn't really have a backup.
• 1:01:42
  He is the is there nickel? Okay.
• 1:01:45
  So unless unless he is hurt he's probably not coming off the
• 1:01:51
  field. Alright good deal on that.
• 1:01:55
  Alright, next guy to look at Brian the true linebacker cam
• 1:01:59
  Arnold 612 28 34 Tsar who was at a wedding?
• 1:02:04
  Bloomfield Michigan, thirty six tackles one sec, three tackles
• 1:02:08
  for loss in a forced. Fumble Mike Sam will.
• 1:02:12
  Where are we going to see? Number 27 lined up, he's their
• 1:02:16
  strong backer. He's saying he's a volume
• 1:02:20
  tackler. He's also the primary Blitzer if
• 1:02:24
  they're bringing an extra Defender five main pressure,
• 1:02:29
  he's the guy that you're usually going to see.
• 1:02:33
  He occasionally gets bad reads of the Run game though.
• 1:02:36
  I've seen him out of position a few times.
• 1:02:39
  So compare him very similarly to Tisdale in that regard where,
• 1:02:44
  you know, occasionally getting into bed, read a little bit out
• 1:02:46
  of position, but unlike his daily is also a little suspect
• 1:02:50
  in coverage. But his primary attribute again,
• 1:02:55
  is that he's a sound tackler and that when he comes on those
• 1:02:57
  blitzes, he makes some noise. I got you, I'm assuming not
• 1:03:01
  quite the Sleet Tisdale is not quite okay?
• 1:03:06
  When you talk about the running game is he like is this like a
• 1:03:10
  read-option thing or is it one? Is he taking bad angles to the
• 1:03:13
  gaps? It's usually in the Reeds.
• 1:03:17
  He's out there. He's either too aggressive or
• 1:03:19
  too hesitant. He hasn't found that that middle
• 1:03:22
  ground where he can get the read from the uses.
• 1:03:28
  Read his guard to quarterback. Watch the quarterbacks eyes he I
• 1:03:32
  was a little slow with that, and that means that the Lyman is
• 1:03:36
  already gotten to the second level can get get in his pads or
• 1:03:41
  he'll pick, you pick too soon. Pick early.
• 1:03:44
  Not wait for his read and then he's in a bad place.
• 1:03:47
  So gather. All right Brian, let's take a
• 1:03:52
  look here. Let's finally, look at the line
• 1:03:55
  guy. You mentioned you want to talk
• 1:03:56
  about tonight? Let's Camp hoarsely.
• 1:03:58
  A 6-foot to 290-pound defensive tackle.
• 1:04:01
  How to Riverton. New Jersey with a three-star.
• 1:04:03
  Any came out, only one sack this year, but be a defensive tackle
• 1:04:09
  twenty seven tackles? That's, that's a pretty high
• 1:04:13
  number. What are we seeing out of this
• 1:04:15
  big guy? Yeah, he's kind of the guy that
• 1:04:19
  makes a defensive line going. The defensive line is definitely
• 1:04:23
  in terms of the full unit, the strength of the defense, they
• 1:04:27
  really make an offensive line earn it and he has a good Motor
• 1:04:32
  for a big guy nearly 300 pounds. There he plays the three
• 1:04:37
  technique for them. If they go like a true nickel on
• 1:04:41
  third down where they roll a three man front out there he is,
• 1:04:44
  the he be slides to the the knows he's better against the
• 1:04:49
  run and the pass. He's not an Elite pass rusher by
• 1:04:52
  any stretch but he's really good at fighting through combos on
• 1:04:56
  those run plays and does does a good job of disrupting in the
• 1:05:00
  backfield, right, right. You mentioned that there is a
• 1:05:03
  good defensive lines kind of the the linchpin of their defense.
• 1:05:06
  But I was noticing here, they don't sack the quarterback that
• 1:05:10
  much. You're actually one of the worst
• 1:05:11
  in the country only. They've only got, you know, 11
• 1:05:15
  sacks for the entire year. So what is, are they good at
• 1:05:20
  seven edges and what are they good at?
• 1:05:23
  You said they're the lynchpin in the best part of the defense but
• 1:05:26
  they're not sacking the quarterback a lot, what do they
• 1:05:28
  do very well. They are the reason that team
• 1:05:33
  struggled to run the football and I think that they overall do
• 1:05:36
  a good job of kind of making the Run game, slow down to a slog.
• 1:05:44
  When you look at the Syracuse State until they started to
• 1:05:48
  bust, they busted I think two big runs in that game, but when
• 1:05:56
  they do a good job of, not letting the running back and
• 1:05:59
  quarterback, get to the second level.
• 1:06:02
  They keep running games, pretty much in check.
• 1:06:05
  All right. And you know, you take away that
• 1:06:09
  one big run that that Sean had. I mean it's still a good day but
• 1:06:19
  for a team that's that, was that focused on the running game?
• 1:06:23
  I think they did a pretty good job against Syracuse.
• 1:06:25
  Overall, the first half in particular, where they really
• 1:06:29
  kind of shut the whole the whole offense down.
• 1:06:32
  For most of the first half there got it.
• 1:06:36
  All right so there's your offensive and defensive looks at
• 1:06:40
  the Boston College Eagles. Now let's flip it over to the
• 1:06:44
  Iota version of the Hokies and Brian.
• 1:06:48
  I'm going to say this. We're going to start with the
• 1:06:49
  offense, Justin Fuente being part and being a ton in that
• 1:06:53
  offensive room. It is not a small iota.
• 1:06:56
  It's paid big dividends the last two weeks, not only in yards
• 1:06:59
  production but also in points on the board.
• 1:07:03
  So if you're in there and what do you hope?
• 1:07:06
  He's saying that keeps us, you know, improving scoring points.
• 1:07:10
  Moving the ball. Significantly better to the tune
• 1:07:13
  of what almost 80 yards, a game in two weeks.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, I think the thing that, I mean, I think they talked about
• 1:07:22
  it and there's, you know, they're saying well yeah, it's
• 1:07:24
  still corn, calling the play. Yeah, I know his, but what Brad
• 1:07:28
  cornelison is not good. At is the little things that
• 1:07:31
  would Justin Fuente is good, at is the little things at least in
• 1:07:36
  terms of scheme planning, everything like that.
• 1:07:39
  When we look at the game plans for like a week 1, we see Justin
• 1:07:44
  Fuente his fingers all over and all three years be playing
• 1:07:48
  everyone. When we look at the last couple
• 1:07:50
  weeks, you start to see it a little bit more too.
• 1:07:54
  And I think that's that's the thing that That break or Nelson
• 1:07:56
  struggles at. And that's the thing that Justin
• 1:07:58
  Fuente is good at is those kind of little things and what he's
• 1:08:02
  focused on primarily is your commitment back to the running
• 1:08:05
  game and seeing areas where, if we tweak Personnel groupings, if
• 1:08:11
  we tweak, you know, who's getting the emphasis who's
• 1:08:15
  getting those touches, you know, we've seen distinctly effort to
• 1:08:20
  get tray the ball and to get Malachi Thomas the ball, the
• 1:08:23
  last two weeks. And that has had trickle-down
• 1:08:28
  effect throughout the whole offense.
• 1:08:30
  All right, so when you talk about Tre is you mentioned
• 1:08:33
  something here. Calculated shots, right?
• 1:08:35
  Not just essentially not doing what we did.
• 1:08:38
  Was it against Pitt that not pit.
• 1:08:42
  Just shot shot shot where we took.
• 1:08:46
  We have the Gallo shot, downfield off the pot pass and
• 1:08:50
  we had the tray shot that wound up in the touchdown.
• 1:08:53
  Yeah we need to take calculated shots.
• 1:08:56
  So what we don't want to see is the third and one call from last
• 1:09:01
  week. What we do want to see is some
• 1:09:03
  of those big plays down the field like the 12 tray.
• 1:09:07
  Like the 12 Gala that you mention.
• 1:09:10
  And, and again, calculated shots calculated risk.
• 1:09:14
  That, you know, I talk about this all the time on this show,
• 1:09:17
  right? When we talk about calculated
• 1:09:20
  risk, we're talking about the ability to See you in a
• 1:09:24
  situation where can I take a little bit of a chance?
• 1:09:27
  And it not hurt? Me, too bad.
• 1:09:29
  Yeah. And that's going to be in taking
• 1:09:31
  the shots because they're going to give you that.
• 1:09:33
  They're gonna be up at the line of scrimmage against the wide
• 1:09:36
  receivers. They're going to have pretty
• 1:09:40
  much everybody, but the corners and the free safety in the Box,
• 1:09:44
  most of the time. So we need to be able to assess
• 1:09:50
  the situation and take take those Risk every now and again
• 1:09:54
  but you also want to make sure that you know you're doing the
• 1:09:58
  smart thing with the football as well.
• 1:10:00
  And also making sure you're still attacking every area of
• 1:10:03
  that defense to keep them honest.
• 1:10:06
  It's true. Braun on.
• 1:10:08
  Now the other thing I think what kept us from probably scoring
• 1:10:14
  over 30 and maybe even mid-30s, you know, we had some bad
• 1:10:20
  procedural penalties. Is there anything?
• 1:10:23
  When when you guys would have a game like that at Sydney, where,
• 1:10:27
  you know, you had some false start, somebody wasn't lined up
• 1:10:30
  correctly, there's anything you guys would do back then.
• 1:10:34
  That maybe they've implemented this week to know if only one
• 1:10:37
  game but we don't want it to grow into a bigger problem.
• 1:10:40
  Yeah, we have these things called 100-yard gassers, that
• 1:10:42
  were really a big deterrent to procedure penalties.
• 1:10:47
  All right, so we'll know not to be real though.
• 1:10:53
  You know, we talked about the one that was called on Parker
• 1:10:56
  Clements that was as fandom as it gets.
• 1:11:02
  There was a questionable, you know, I say it's questionable
• 1:11:06
  personal foul that was called on Brock Hoffman then you had a
• 1:11:09
  couple offsides, that key moments.
• 1:11:12
  But all of these puts you by either behind the sticks or in
• 1:11:15
  early Downs or from a third manageable to a third and long
• 1:11:21
  on third downs. And that's what you To avoid and
• 1:11:25
  we had probably a good handful of those situations against
• 1:11:30
  Syracuse and we need to limit those against BC because upfront
• 1:11:33
  BC's better than Syracuse. All right.
• 1:11:35
  Brian you mentioned to me, just a little while ago that we've
• 1:11:40
  got to stay at fishing on third down.
• 1:11:41
  We're not as terrible as some people think.
• 1:11:44
  I mean, we're 42nd in the country at it and, you know,
• 1:11:47
  we're converting about forty three and a half percent.
• 1:11:51
  We were 45 last week. if we stay at our mean and let's say we we
• 1:11:58
  get 15 third down opportunities and let's say we convert seven
• 1:12:05
  of them is that enough against this defense and potentially the
• 1:12:09
  offense on the other side of the ball or is it need to be just a
• 1:12:11
  little bit more? I think that's probably the
• 1:12:15
  minimum we can get away with. I think we probably need to be a
• 1:12:17
  little bit better if we want this to be a comfortable win.
• 1:12:21
  Okay, so, if it's, if, if we hit the average, it's a few people,
• 1:12:25
  it's a touchdown win. If we're below the average, get
• 1:12:29
  the beers. Get the Maalox out.
• 1:12:31
  Get your, yeah. Peter comfort food out because
• 1:12:34
  you're gonna be sitting there Friday night.
• 1:12:35
  Feeling misery might, you might need the Maalox for the for the
• 1:12:39
  seven because it might come down to the wire, all right?
• 1:12:43
  There you go, guys. The offense.
• 1:12:46
  A lot of things you've heard. We've been talking about the
• 1:12:47
  last few weeks that we've seen more of the last few weeks, the
• 1:12:51
  brown with the defense we've already mentioned.
• 1:12:53
  Their offense is an absolute rut right now and you know, I'm just
• 1:13:00
  going to guess. That.
• 1:13:05
  Blow the Box, whoever's playing strong.
• 1:13:08
  Safety will be within three yards of the line of scrimmage.
• 1:13:12
  We definitely need to make them beat us by throwing the football
• 1:13:16
  and preferably throwing the football down the field.
• 1:13:20
  And when I say that, I also want to say, I don't want to let Vey
• 1:13:25
  flowers, beat us with one place. We still need to be sound in the
• 1:13:30
  secondary and not LEDs a flowers Beach deep, but Within that, I
• 1:13:36
  would rather them try to throw the ball to beat us.
• 1:13:39
  Then just pound garhwal game. All right, if they're if they're
• 1:13:44
  averaging six yards, a carry with gar.
• 1:13:47
  Whoa, it's going to be a long day even if we pull out the
• 1:13:51
  victory, it's going to be a long damn day.
• 1:13:54
  I would, but I would much rather, regardless of who's
• 1:13:57
  pulling the trigger, I would much rather than try to throw
• 1:13:59
  the ball against 10 to the 4 on that.
• 1:14:05
  Would you be even as good as Walter is?
• 1:14:07
  Would you be in favor potentially a bracket or
• 1:14:10
  whatever blazes a flower is constantly somebody over the top
• 1:14:14
  of him? No, because they do have other
• 1:14:17
  guys that can can go deep on you and that becomes more of a
• 1:14:21
  problem. If, if it's more head or if it's
• 1:14:25
  jerking back in the game, it's going to be very less than
• 1:14:31
  50/50, if if courcelles in there.
• 1:14:35
  In terms of puts driving the ball downfield consistently,
• 1:14:38
  he'll hit one every now. And again, it's just it's not
• 1:14:40
  his game, it's not what he does and it gets worse, the more
• 1:14:44
  pressure you put on him, but the key is going to be because they
• 1:14:49
  might have to end up playing that underneath game.
• 1:14:51
  Is that we have to tackle, tackle tackle, tackle garhwal,
• 1:14:55
  because he's if he gets going early, it's going to wear us
• 1:14:58
  down as the game goes on. Tackle, him early in the game.
• 1:15:02
  Get him to the ground. Don't let him get in rhythm.
• 1:15:05
  Yeah, and can I just say something real quick?
• 1:15:09
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:15:11
  We won last week if we tackle better last week, that game is
• 1:15:15
  probably an easier game of stomach.
• 1:15:18
  It's probably two touchdowns. If we tackle better against
• 1:15:21
  Syracuse, we win that game. If I could go back even further
• 1:15:27
  the games that we have not tackled, well, we have not won
• 1:15:31
  and whether Virginia Notre Dame. So you go through West Virginia
• 1:15:36
  is not as good as us, but we had a terrible tackling game early.
• 1:15:40
  They beat us Notre, Dame is better than us.
• 1:15:45
  Some people say they're slightly already.
• 1:15:46
  That's fine. They're still a top 20 team.
• 1:15:48
  We had a bad tackling game, we lost to them.
• 1:15:51
  The pit gain, I'm throwing away, never remember that one again,
• 1:15:55
  but the Syracuse game. So three of our four losses, bad
• 1:15:58
  tackling gains from or a primary reason we lose.
• 1:16:01
  And if you're playing someone like BC, who is not as talented
• 1:16:05
  are missing players, missing tackles just gets the confidence
• 1:16:09
  up. Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  And you know, when we talk about that an extension of that is
• 1:16:17
  don't extend drives for them and some of that is don't miss
• 1:16:21
  tackles that ultimately turn. What should have been a, you
• 1:16:25
  know, forth in 3 into a fourth and one, don't miss tackles that
• 1:16:31
  turn. What should have been a fourth
• 1:16:33
  and five into a first down? Like there's so many times where
• 1:16:38
  you'll One Missed tackle or just being their hair late and then
• 1:16:42
  notnot Forming them up or feed them up and I was suddenly they
• 1:16:46
  got a first down instead of it being fourth down.
• 1:16:48
  You know, so many times that we were in position to make it a
• 1:16:52
  fourth and three or more, that it became a fourth and one, and
• 1:16:56
  with our, you know, record against fourth down, they
• 1:17:00
  elected to go forward and they get it again because it's a
• 1:17:03
  short down there. Yep.
• 1:17:06
  And we can't, we can't commit silly penalties.
• 1:17:08
  We had, we had a couple of those on defense last week.
• 1:17:11
  Yeah. So that's the big thing.
• 1:17:13
  For me, this week is don't let actions that you can control
• 1:17:17
  extend drives for the other offense.
• 1:17:20
  This the team were playing is their Limited in what they can
• 1:17:24
  do. By all means the easy stuff.
• 1:17:29
  Don't let that become the problem.
• 1:17:31
  If the easy stuff of tackling and dumb penalties become the
• 1:17:37
  problem, they can win this game. All right, Brian.
• 1:17:41
  So we're going to go to prediction time here and I'm
• 1:17:44
  going to lead us off the last couple weeks.
• 1:17:49
  You know. We played great defensively.
• 1:17:53
  I just wonder if the short week hurts us.
• 1:17:56
  And defensively, I don't want to throw this on the defense, but I
• 1:18:03
  don't know. Just my pessimistic side is
• 1:18:05
  still with us and I'm going to go 23 20 BC in some garbage ass
• 1:18:11
  field goal or late touchdown that seems to always happen
• 1:18:15
  against BC and they get us up there.
• 1:18:18
  So you see a return to the mean for the offense?
• 1:18:23
  I mean, you know what, it's the whole ones ones, the 123 thing,
• 1:18:32
  they do it a third time, maybe I have some faith in them, but
• 1:18:35
  there's still pieces here and there I see I just couldn't
• 1:18:39
  trust and we know how thin we are on the defensive side of the
• 1:18:43
  ball and they're pounding into us all game long that defensive
• 1:18:48
  line is going to wear as we get later in the game and that's not
• 1:18:51
  weird. How about you?
• 1:18:54
  I've got 2721 VT. All right, six points so it's
• 1:18:59
  going to be a grinder. Yeah we got it.
• 1:19:02
  We got a Bay Lodge game guys. And this was probably going to
• 1:19:06
  be one of those where you either Take the Lead late or we kick a
• 1:19:12
  field goal to take it out of from a one score to a, they need
• 1:19:18
  a touchdown. And then we have to kind of
• 1:19:21
  watch the clock trickle away on them.
• 1:19:26
  So yeah, I foresee a Maalox game that the Hokies are able to pull
• 1:19:30
  out there but now I don't necessarily see a ton of
• 1:19:35
  difference regardless of what quarterback starts.
• 1:19:37
  Like I said there's going to be a negative side the the only way
• 1:19:41
  BC comes out and completely surprises us is that if for
• 1:19:47
  whatever reason, jirka Vic is 100% healed and he knocks off
• 1:19:52
  the rust into drives and all of a sudden dealing with, we're
• 1:19:55
  dealing with with Peak jirka Vic for three and a half quarters.
• 1:20:01
  And that would not be great at all.
• 1:20:03
  All right, Brian, let's flip it over to Saturday.
• 1:20:05
  Pickens, if y'all did not listen to the episode from Monday,
• 1:20:12
  Brian coming off a 90, and one week with the bad beat at the
• 1:20:16
  Clemson game, he's 51 45140. And then you should not be
• 1:20:21
  taking that to the end zone, you should be just diving on it and
• 1:20:24
  In the game. I went six.
• 1:20:27
  Three and one last week they got me as well.
• 1:20:29
  I'm at 52:39 one. So, technically brine, if people
• 1:20:34
  had played every single one of our plays either, all of yours
• 1:20:38
  are all of mine, they would be making money because we are both
• 1:20:44
  well above 500. Actually, there's no way we can
• 1:20:47
  go under 500, even if we screw up every game this week, which I
• 1:20:51
  don't foresee us doing that. So let's start Brian.
• 1:20:54
  ACC weight versus UNC in and out of conference game.
• 1:20:59
  It's the stupidest thing you've ever heard of right UNC is the
• 1:21:04
  favorite in this game by two and a half.
• 1:21:08
  Wake, how I don't know. I mean they're literally saying
• 1:21:13
  it's a home game, so we're making you and see the favorite.
• 1:21:19
  Wait my leader. My lead on this one.
• 1:21:21
  No, I'm leaving on this one. Okay, because I still got the
• 1:21:24
  lead in the overall standings but I've got to take wake here.
• 1:21:31
  Unc's defense, can't stop anything.
• 1:21:34
  They will not stop wake and I think wakes defense is good
• 1:21:37
  enough, probably to stop you and see two to three times.
• 1:21:40
  I think weight wins this game going away somewhere like 4228
• 1:21:45
  4530 but I can See you and see winning this game.
• 1:21:50
  Much less laying points. What about you?
• 1:21:55
  Yeah, I'm actually on the Wake train as well.
• 1:21:57
  I think they take care of business here.
• 1:22:00
  I still don't know how you and see.
• 1:22:02
  Every week is picked to win their game.
• 1:22:05
  Like, have we not seen this defense?
• 1:22:07
  Have we not seen? How while while good how hot and
• 1:22:13
  cold their offense can still be from from drive to drive?
• 1:22:19
  So I got to take wake here. They played solid all year, they
• 1:22:22
  can control the clock control, the line of scrimmage.
• 1:22:25
  They've got the just as much of a veteran quarterback at this
• 1:22:28
  point as UNC. I just think they're able to
• 1:22:32
  take care of business. All right, so we're both taking
• 1:22:35
  wake on that one. Next one behind you lead jute
• 1:22:38
  versus pit. It is laying 21 points.
• 1:22:45
  Poor Duke, man. They're going to get angry pit
• 1:22:49
  and pits going to fucking steamroll them.
• 1:22:51
  So givi Pitt. It is definitely going to
• 1:22:54
  steamroll them. If this line was 28 and a half,
• 1:22:57
  I'd still take it. This was things where it's like,
• 1:23:01
  I don't know if some of the bedding apps out there, you can
• 1:23:04
  buy up. I know there's been, I've seen
• 1:23:07
  it before where you can buy down, like, if the line is like
• 1:23:11
  the line. Oh, you know, you're this and
• 1:23:13
  you're laying some point. Well, I don't think they're
• 1:23:14
  going to win by 7. Well, you can pay x amount of
• 1:23:17
  dollars in bite down to three. I'd buy this up to 28 and a half
• 1:23:22
  like, Okay, whatever it takes because I think they're going to
• 1:23:25
  steamroll them. I mean, I don't think Duke gets
• 1:23:28
  to 17 and I think Pitt gets to 50.
• 1:23:33
  All right, this is going to be great one for you.
• 1:23:35
  Brian, you get lucky that I lead.
• 1:23:37
  Georgia Tech. Miami Miami.
• 1:23:40
  The last two weeks has been out there.
• 1:23:42
  Playing great with Van Dyke, The Freshman quarterback in there,
• 1:23:50
  laying 10 points to Georgia Tech.
• 1:23:53
  Okay. And as much as I don't like
• 1:23:56
  Georgia Tech. There's now multiple game tape
• 1:24:02
  of Van Dyke out there. And even those bad as a Georgia
• 1:24:07
  Tech defense is, I just think tennis too much because just
• 1:24:13
  when the Miami offense finds it starts, figuring things out
• 1:24:18
  their defense is still struggling and I do think that
• 1:24:22
  you know Sims and gives are going to give them problems so
• 1:24:26
  give me Georgia Tech, give me the ten points.
• 1:24:29
  All right, I'm going to I'm going to differ from you here.
• 1:24:32
  I'm going to go Miami here. I think they are onto something.
• 1:24:35
  Ting offensively. And I think their defense is
• 1:24:38
  able to do just enough to keep them the Georgia Tech offense
• 1:24:42
  from from keeping it close. So, I think it's probably, it's
• 1:24:45
  probably not more than 13 or 14, but I think they end up pulling
• 1:24:49
  out about a two to score Victory.
• 1:24:51
  They're all right. All right, I'm glad you picked
• 1:24:55
  against me on that because we know how, you know, you've been
• 1:24:59
  right a few weeks on Georgia Tech.
• 1:25:00
  It's time to get back on the other way trick, even talk about
• 1:25:03
  that, man. All right.
• 1:25:06
  Florida, State in Sea state. Did you get a chance to look at
• 1:25:10
  this one yet I did? Does it smell like crazy.
• 1:25:16
  Something smells Funky Man? It smells so funky to me and now
• 1:25:22
  I'm just going to jump up and say it.
• 1:25:24
  Give me NC State and lay in the three points because You know,
• 1:25:31
  for estate just had played good defense with some trouble with a
• 1:25:36
  trouble offense. They almost pulled it out, but I
• 1:25:41
  think in see State offensive ly, they're not, they don't have the
• 1:25:44
  the, the big time play makers, a big-time names that Clemson
• 1:25:47
  does, but not think they're just more steady.
• 1:25:50
  And I think the NC State Defense will lock up before State
• 1:25:53
  offense, much like Clemson did. So only laying three.
• 1:25:57
  Yeah, give me that. Yeah, I'm on the NC State train
• 1:26:01
  as well. I don't know how it's three.
• 1:26:05
  I know. FSU has shown a little bit more
• 1:26:07
  fight in the last couple weeks than they have the majority of
• 1:26:11
  the Season. Say, for Week 1, but I'm still
• 1:26:16
  not seeing enough where I would pick them against NC State with
• 1:26:19
  the line as low as three. So I'll take Kenzie stayed here.
• 1:26:23
  All right, we're going in Sea State, train, here's a goal for
• 1:26:27
  your Brawn Louisville coming off.
• 1:26:29
  Active losses against Clemson, Clemson lamp or points.
• 1:26:38
  Yeah I'm lead on this one right? Yeah it's illegal on this one.
• 1:26:42
  Thank goodness. I'm gonna take Clemson.
• 1:26:46
  Clemson bit me last week. I said, I said last week, they
• 1:26:51
  haven't beaten any team by More Than That Matters.
• 1:26:53
  By more than one score and they wouldn't have if not for the
• 1:26:57
  fumble return. So I think that still holds, but
• 1:27:00
  I think it's going to be a touchdown Advantage here.
• 1:27:02
  So give me Clemson. Yeah, and Louisville is coming
• 1:27:07
  off, you know? You know, the loss by 15.
• 1:27:15
  I'm torn on this one too. But I think four is just not
• 1:27:19
  enough to lay because I think cleansing will tie up that
• 1:27:23
  offense most of the game. I don't, I don't think Clinton's
• 1:27:26
  going to get too much more than 23, 24 points.
• 1:27:31
  But I don't, I can't see the Louisville getting I can't see
• 1:27:35
  the new evil, you know, being in the ballpark with them.
• 1:27:39
  I think FSU has two studs, I don't think Louisville has
• 1:27:41
  enough studs to run with them. All right, Brian, let's go out
• 1:27:45
  of conference now. Hendon hooker, Bowl
• 1:27:49
  continuously, keeping an eye on the men down at the University
• 1:27:52
  of Tennessee. And this week they get the
• 1:27:56
  ranked Kentucky, Wildcats coming in Kentucky who's you know,
• 1:28:01
  coming into the game ranked They are 6 and to fame, is it
• 1:28:08
  Kentucky? Kentucky is laying a very, very
• 1:28:12
  small two points here, essentially getting the home
• 1:28:15
  field advantage. What do you know?
• 1:28:17
  It's my turn? Honestly, as much as I love
• 1:28:22
  tendon Kentucky's, just too me too.
• 1:28:25
  Good of an overall team. To say that small of a margin.
• 1:28:32
  If it was a touchdown, I'd probably be thinking more
• 1:28:35
  Tennessee, but to against a well-balanced, team is just not
• 1:28:39
  enough because I think it took he's going to score some points.
• 1:28:41
  I think. Tennessee is going to score a
• 1:28:42
  little bit, but in the end Kentucky wins, you know,
• 1:28:47
  somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 24, 30 23, okay.
• 1:28:58
  If this line was for and not to, I would have taken Tennessee.
• 1:29:02
  So I'll take Kentucky. I think it's a field goal.
• 1:29:05
  Victory late. All righty, but Brian is going
• 1:29:10
  to be taking Tennessee there. And the next game, Brian, The
• 1:29:18
  Undefeated Michigan State Spartans against kind of a Wily
• 1:29:25
  Purdue crew led by Jeff brohm. Michigan State, only lane 3
• 1:29:35
  points against Purdue. We feel on this one, Brian.
• 1:29:41
  This is a was funny lines. It's a funny line only because
• 1:29:47
  what Purdue has been doing two teams ranked highly as they, as
• 1:29:53
  they approach that matchup. But I think this is the one
• 1:29:57
  where Talent Wheels out here. I think this is MSU all the way.
• 1:30:03
  Probably about a 10 point win for them.
• 1:30:05
  So yeah, I'm going to take will takes party here.
• 1:30:09
  All right, I'm going to differ with you on this one, I think
• 1:30:12
  Michigan State's coming off that.
• 1:30:13
  I think there's going to be a massive hangover, I think
• 1:30:16
  they're going to win the game, but I think I'm going to take /,
• 1:30:19
  dude, could take the points in cover because I mean they just
• 1:30:25
  be Michigan. That came Dane that game came
• 1:30:29
  down to the end. They just got ranked in the top
• 1:30:31
  five. They are in line to get The
• 1:30:33
  playoffs. They've got to go down to West
• 1:30:37
  Lafayette. Look for A330 dogfight on this
• 1:30:44
  one. Okay, but I'm going to take for
• 1:30:47
  you and I'll hold the three points.
• 1:30:52
  I think I can get it done there. Alright man, alright Pac-12
• 1:30:56
  after dark. Yeah the season.
• 1:30:58
  This is going to look at is one of those big pack. 12 games
• 1:31:01
  between Washington and Oregon, Washington.
• 1:31:03
  Anton has come to beginning of the Season fell flat on the
• 1:31:07
  face. Jimmy Lake who was a great
• 1:31:09
  defensive coordinator under Peterson is not doing as a head.
• 1:31:13
  Coach, they play organ or going to get in line to get in the
• 1:31:17
  playoff, organ Lane, six and a half.
• 1:31:20
  What do you think on this one? Brian?
• 1:31:22
  Or is just me? This is me.
• 1:31:23
  That's you. That's you.
• 1:31:25
  Sorry. Gotta keep it rotate here.
• 1:31:27
  I think personally, I think we're again knows that they're
• 1:31:31
  in that vulnerable position. So I think they're going to win
• 1:31:35
  this game. Big over a up and down
• 1:31:40
  Washington, Husky team, I'm actually right there with you.
• 1:31:45
  I think they see what the college football playoff has
• 1:31:47
  presented for them and they know that they've got to go out there
• 1:31:51
  and and win and occasionally when convincingly they probably
• 1:31:56
  don't need a super convincing win here, but they definitely
• 1:32:00
  need to handle their business. This one can't be that
• 1:32:03
  wire-to-wire game. So give me Oregon here.
• 1:32:06
  Well, right, both on the war again.
• 1:32:09
  All right, Brian. One of the more interesting
• 1:32:11
  matchups of the week. I'm still trying to figure out
• 1:32:13
  how this game got put together with read, some backstories,
• 1:32:17
  Liberty goes and visits Ole Miss down in Oxford at Vaught
• 1:32:22
  Hemingway. Stadium Ole Miss.
• 1:32:25
  Who is ranked Liberty? Who has lost multiple games this
• 1:32:29
  year? Ole Miss is only laying 9
• 1:32:32
  points. What do you think on this one?
• 1:32:37
  I mean this is the classic which team can stop the other the most
• 1:32:41
  because neither of them really gets a whole ton of stops on
• 1:32:44
  defense, but I think Ole Miss gets enough.
• 1:32:49
  I think this is probably about a about a two score game.
• 1:32:52
  Ole Miss runs away, late. I don't think Liberty can quite
• 1:32:57
  keep Pace with them. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
• 1:33:00
  I think after the bad game against Bad game against Auburn
• 1:33:09
  last week where, you know, Lane went for 4th down on more than
• 1:33:15
  one time with kind of no sense. He was he was chasing points.
• 1:33:20
  Like hell he was chasing points and it you know, the question is
• 1:33:26
  that he feel like whoever was in there that wasn't Matt Correll
• 1:33:29
  just couldn't get it done. He had to take the high risks.
• 1:33:33
  I think a week to playing even with the backup quarterback.
• 1:33:36
  I think lame can figure out how to score points.
• 1:33:40
  I think it's going to be entertaining game.
• 1:33:42
  It's going to be at lunch time. So get yourself a big bowl of
• 1:33:46
  wings. There you go.
• 1:33:48
  The TV and watching. Probably run up and down the
• 1:33:50
  field but I'm with you Ole Miss wins this one.
• 1:33:54
  Probably about 14 to 28 as a final.
• 1:33:58
  There you go. I think this is going to be a
• 1:34:00
  chilly weekend for me. No wings.
• 1:34:02
  I'm going chilly first See the season chili.
• 1:34:06
  Very nice, very nice. All right, Brian?
• 1:34:09
  The big matchup of the day, right?
• 1:34:11
  Wise is Auburn and Texas. A&M both are sitting in section,
• 1:34:14
  203 in the top 15. Go get before we get into the
• 1:34:20
  game itself. They're both 6 and 2.
• 1:34:24
  They are the highest who ranked to Lost teams in the cfp, Guess
• 1:34:30
  Who the highest run one ranked while, steam is where you know
• 1:34:34
  who that you got the highest one-loss.
• 1:34:37
  Team is Alabama, guess who the highest Three Laws team is
• 1:34:40
  Brian? Which go Mississippi State at 5
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  & 3, okay? So you sit here and people are
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  going to be like, well well Alabama, beat them and them and
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  if they beat Auburn which I think the shine of the Texas A&M
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  situations coming off a little bit more and more yet they blew
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  the doors off South Carolina but we know that's a huge rebuild
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  down there. Auburn's going to get to like
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  nine and two and go to the Iron Bowl and lose.
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  And the first thing people will say, well well, look at that
• 1:35:18
  Alabama, beat Miami, who was in the top 15, they beat a top ten
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  Auburn team. They be the top 15 on this team
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  and it's just like, I know. This is why you hate Pole,
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  right? Oh, yeah, because especially
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  early season polls because you're sitting here and it's
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  just like, I don't know if they are truly worthy of being 13th
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  and 14th ranked team. They're a bunch of Team Six and
• 1:35:43
  20 with two losses. But whoever wins this game is
• 1:35:49
  probably going to get the precursory bump to almost the
• 1:35:52
  top 10 and eventually break into the top 10.
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  Yep. So with all that said, yep am
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  four and a half Point favorites. I'll let you go on your Your
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  monologue first. And then, this is the one.
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  I mean, I know it's a big one and I grappled with it.
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  I think Auburn pulls this off. I think they might win this game
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  outright, but I will definitely take Auburn in this one.
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  I think that Am I think the Secret's out?
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  I think the, I think the the recipe of the sauces has been
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  discovered, and I think anytime they match up against a quality
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  opponent, it's going to be a struggle for them.
• 1:36:45
  So I'll take all of her in here. Yeah, going to be an absolute
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  fight. You know, the calzada kid who
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  played his latest proverbial ass off against Against Bama
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  struggled last week 12 or 24 and am just ran the ball down.
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  The Gamecocks throat. So they had two guys over 100
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  yards. I think Alibi thing called in
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  does win the game outright. I think getting the four and a
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  half that I know it's on the road.
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  That's a tough environment. But Auburn does have a good
• 1:37:18
  defense. They do.
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  It's not what it was a few years ago.
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  But it's not Dreadful by any means.
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  So I really think Auburn when just came out, right?
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  And like I said, they're going to go to the Iron Bowl not into
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  and they're going to go in there with a chance to go to the SEC
• 1:37:33
  title game and they're going to give all over and they're going
• 1:37:35
  to give Alabama top 10 with Yep. All right.
• 1:37:39
  Brian anything breaking. The last hour and 40 minutes
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  back to our normal times. Here, I haven't seen anything.
• 1:37:48
  But all right. Well then that's going to wrap
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