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The Rita Panahi Show | 12 March · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On Skylands Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight, the housing crisis laid bare. Australians working two
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Speaker 2: jobs are fearful of being homeless due to skyrocketing housing costs.
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Speaker 2: Pro McSween and Tina McQueen. We'll be here to discuss
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Speaker 2: that and the day's other top stories. Mihrowitz will have
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Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including the Democrats doubling down
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Speaker 2: on their anti deportation stance. Link Lauren will bring his unique,
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Speaker 2: sharp commentary to everything from Megan Markle to Tim Walls.
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Speaker 2: Who wants to run for president in twenty twenty eight
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Speaker 2: imagine that, and we'll look at how the Trump administration
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Speaker 2: plans to demoralize the Iranian regime. That's later in the Hour,
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Speaker 2: and Left Is Losing. It features a cavalcade of lost souls.
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Speaker 3: I'm running the communist program, So first of mine is
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Speaker 3: peak the Capitalism off Campus.
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Speaker 2: But first, former Labor Defense Minister and US Ambassador Kim
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Speaker 2: Beasley has urged the Albanezy government to significantly increase its
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Speaker 2: military spending in line with Donald Trump's demands. An interview
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Speaker 2: with The Australian. He said, we can't afford to run
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Speaker 2: our own game. People are full of pison. Wind On
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Speaker 2: that we have to be mindful that we've got our limits,
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Speaker 2: but we do have to bear in mind what Trump's
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Speaker 2: saying and the others are saying. We have to up
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Speaker 2: our spending to three three and a half percent of GDP.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the panel Sky Newes contributors Prough,
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Speaker 2: McSween and Tina McQueen pro will discuss Trump's refusal to
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Speaker 2: exempt Australia from its metal tariffs in a moment. But
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Speaker 2: this is partly why the tariffs are being imposed by
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Speaker 2: the US. They want us to pull our weight when
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Speaker 2: it comes to defense spending. Brita.
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Speaker 4: The fact that Australia has really dragged a chain, and
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Speaker 4: it's not just the labor government, successive governments with security
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Speaker 4: is a huge worry. We know that we have this
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Speaker 4: situation whereas she'll be right mate, and that US will
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Speaker 4: ball us out. We've had a reality check with Trump
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Speaker 4: and also with the aggression from China, and it's time
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Speaker 4: for us to wake up and realize that we must
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Speaker 4: spend a minimum of an extra three piece percent on
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Speaker 4: our or three piece percent of our GDB on defense
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Speaker 4: because we are so.
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Speaker 2: Behind sitting ducks.
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Speaker 4: China prove that just recently with its circumnavigation and the
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Speaker 4: fact that we really didn't have a chance or a
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Speaker 4: clue knowing that they were there.
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Speaker 5: So we have to wake up to ourselves.
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Speaker 2: Tina. Do you see any chance that Trump will rethink
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Speaker 2: this tariff in position on Australia if we do increase
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Speaker 2: our defense spending. And I don't know if some of
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Speaker 2: our leaders behave a little bit better. We've had the
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Speaker 2: wa premiere having a go Donald Trump and Jadi Vance
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Speaker 2: just in the past week. We've got the former Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister making a spectacle of himself having this war of words.
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Speaker 2: It can't be helping our case.
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Speaker 6: No, look, none of these idiots are help helping it
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Speaker 6: at all. And I don't see any change under the
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Speaker 6: current administration. I mean, you've got absolute tools like Don
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Speaker 6: Farrell and Kevin Rudd trying to deal with the Trump administration.
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Speaker 6: And it's clear from President Trump, you know, refusing to
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Speaker 6: take any more calls from Albanesi that this working relationship
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Speaker 6: is not in a good place at the moment. And
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Speaker 6: I think the Trump administration honestly is just sitting it
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Speaker 6: out and waiting for change of government where we have
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Speaker 6: fresh new faces. To be honest, reader, Alberici's government should
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Speaker 6: have given me a call. I've spent more time with
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Speaker 6: the Trump administration team than they have. It's just ridiculous
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Speaker 6: that the relationship has reached such a low point and
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Speaker 6: Albanesi has allowed that.
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Speaker 2: To happen, and they've kept Kevin run in that position.
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Speaker 2: They know what the Trump administration thinks of him. So
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Speaker 2: if you're trying to win concessions, then this is not
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Speaker 2: the way to go about it. And the fact that
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Speaker 2: our prime minister can't even get a phone call with
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Speaker 2: the President of the moment speaks volumes. Now we've heard
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Speaker 2: plenty from Malcolm Turnbull about his thoughts about Donald Trump,
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Speaker 2: and now Kerry Anne Kenley has spoken out about her
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Speaker 2: dealings with a former prime minister. What he has said
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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump being a bully, well, what do they
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Speaker 2: say about people in glass harveside mansions not throwing stones?
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Speaker 5: I believe mister Turnbull really is extremely thin skinned and
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Speaker 5: from my personal professional experience, I had an issue after
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Speaker 5: an interview where he in the foyer of Channel NAH
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Speaker 5: and shredded my producer in front of everybody, quite unfairly.
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Speaker 5: When I realized this somehows later, I did call his
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Speaker 5: number and his mobile and his mind answered. He said,
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Speaker 5: I'm twenty seven. I said, well, maybe you should contemplate
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Speaker 5: your future career because you've been working for Bully way
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Speaker 5: too long. So it has been a fairly frosty relationship
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Speaker 5: because he was too gapless to actually call me personally.
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Speaker 5: He just wanted to get stuck into somebody who couldn't
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Speaker 5: defend themselves.
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Speaker 2: Wow, cac calling Turnbull a bully. Bless Carry Anne. We
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Speaker 2: do love her pro She tells it like it like
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Speaker 2: it is here, doesn't leave you wondering what she thinks
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Speaker 2: about things.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting, isn't it that people in powerful positions
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Speaker 4: you often see that they treat the little people with contempt.
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Speaker 4: He didn't have the guts to confront Carry Anne. She
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Speaker 4: left him a message you wouldn't take her call if
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Speaker 4: he had a problem with the interview. He should have
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Speaker 4: spoken to her, not the line producer. And this is
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Speaker 4: a problem, you know. We hear this with other ex
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Speaker 4: prime ministers, one who of courses an ambassador overseas at
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Speaker 4: the moment, who was really rude to make up people.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's really terrible.
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Speaker 4: That you think that these people who have who are ghosts. Really,
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Speaker 4: let's face it, they're just ghosts that refuse to go away,
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Speaker 4: have treated people with so much contempt and feel that
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Speaker 4: they have the opportunity wherever they can to voice their
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Speaker 4: opinion when no one really cares about their opinion.
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Speaker 2: Trumbull maybe at Turnbull, I call him turn coat.
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Speaker 4: You know, he's I think he's suffering abandoned and issues
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Speaker 4: from his history and also from the Prime ministership, and
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Speaker 4: he's just refuses to go away.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think Teena misses the spotlight. He wants
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Speaker 2: to be part of the conversation. He wants to weigh in.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he maybe got a thrill when the President
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Speaker 2: put a post up on social about him, no matter
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Speaker 2: how disparaging it was, he had the leader of the
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Speaker 2: free world for a few seconds thinking about him. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if that's what the motivation is, whether there
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Speaker 2: it's just a tension seeking but it certainly isn't particularly
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Speaker 2: helpful for the nation.
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Speaker 6: No, it's relevant deprivation syndrome with turbul He likes to
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Speaker 6: be in the spotlight, but it's a ridiculous time. You know,
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Speaker 6: he's not putting Australia first, ridiculous time to open his mouth.
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Speaker 2: I have so many.
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Speaker 6: Turble stories that I can't tell reader because he's so litigious.
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Speaker 6: Kerry and Kerry and Kenley is spot on the money.
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Speaker 6: And I'd love to tell you what the Trump administration
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Speaker 6: thinks of Turbule. Again, I can't because he's got his
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Speaker 6: lawyers on speed dial. But they don't think terribly highly
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Speaker 6: of him. But it's still a bit of annoyed him
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Speaker 6: that he stuck his head up to Common and this
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Speaker 6: when he you know, there's no reason to do so,
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Speaker 6: and made it difficult for the Albaneze government.
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Speaker 2: Now, now let's turn our attention to Australia's housing crisis.
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Speaker 2: New data from the Center for International Economics, commissioned by
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Speaker 2: the Housing Industry Association, has revealed that in Victoria the
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Speaker 2: massive increases in taxes and how much it's hurting. Victorians
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Speaker 2: have faced a one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: housing tax hike in just six years. So right now
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Speaker 2: we've got more than three hundred and seventy thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: of a typical eight hundred and sixty six thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: new four bedroom, two bathroom home being spent on regulatory
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Speaker 2: costs and taxes. That's about forty three percent of the
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Speaker 2: total build costs. It is just completely mad. Got skyrocketing costs,
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Speaker 2: Its little wonder supply is failing to keep up with demand,
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Speaker 2: and a host of idiotic decisions, particularly from the state government,
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Speaker 2: have forced investors out of the market. Land taxis skyrocketed,
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Speaker 2: for example, so the pool of rental properties crew has
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Speaker 2: shrunk and it's causing rents to increase. And before I
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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this, let's listen to this man's plight.
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Speaker 2: This is an Australian guy who's doing the best for
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Speaker 2: his family. He's working two jobs. He's got a young family,
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Speaker 2: but here fears they could be homeless because of increasing rents.
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Speaker 2: This is from the ABC's Q and A program earlier
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Speaker 2: in the week.
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Speaker 7: I recently got a rent increase notice for an additional
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Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty dollars a week, which works out
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Speaker 7: to be about ten grand a year. I try to
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Speaker 7: find a cheaper place and they're just done any what
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Speaker 7: little is available. There's dozens of people lined up, lots
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Speaker 7: of them are immigrants and they have plenty more money
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Speaker 7: than I can possibly get. I'm already working two jobs,
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Speaker 7: one more rent increase, and my family, my one year
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Speaker 7: old baby, we're facing homelessness and we've got nowhere to go.
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Speaker 7: My family's already been forced out of Sydney for the
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Speaker 7: same reasons. I want to know, is the government going
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Speaker 7: to cut immigration to match housing availability or are we
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Speaker 7: just going to keep going until every regular working Australian
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Speaker 7: is homeless.
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Speaker 8: I'm so sorry going through that, and it's a story
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Speaker 8: we all hear right across the country, obviously, particularly in
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Speaker 8: the biggest states, around the biggest cities. We have been
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Speaker 8: working very hard to get migration levels, immigration levels down
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Speaker 8: to something we think the country can manage, and what
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Speaker 8: we've found after those efforts is that arrival numbers have
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Speaker 8: returned to about pre COVID levels, but we're not managing
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Speaker 8: the exits. The people returning back home if they've been
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Speaker 8: here studying or they've been here for short term skilled
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Speaker 8: work proved.
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Speaker 2: That's just a sorry state of affairs to have someone
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Speaker 2: working two jobs and they're one rent increase away from
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Speaker 2: being on the streets.
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Speaker 4: And wasn't that all blah blah blah in the response,
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Speaker 4: this is the problem with this government. Talk the words, oh,
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Speaker 4: you know, we feel for you. We're doing something. They're
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Speaker 4: talking about what they're going to do.
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Speaker 2: What are you doing.
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Speaker 4: You're letting in record numbers of migrants and you're lying
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Speaker 4: about it. You're saying that it's cut back. It is
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Speaker 4: not cutting back. You're lying and you are doing nothing.
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Speaker 4: When you look at the state taxes on houses, you
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Speaker 4: look at the bureaucracy, you are doing absolute nothing.
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Speaker 2: And you sit there and offer put.
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Speaker 4: The sympathetic tone in your voice and offer platitudes.
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Speaker 2: But Australians are working.
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Speaker 4: Australians are now the new power and they're living intents
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Speaker 4: and cars because.
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Speaker 2: Of your policies.
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Speaker 4: You are criminal and this is outrageous what you are
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Speaker 4: doing to Australia.
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Speaker 2: And we're all on to you.
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Speaker 4: You can talk as much as you like.
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Speaker 2: It's all hot air rita.
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Speaker 6: That that gentleman on me, Yes, So that gentleman on
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Speaker 6: that program is from why on an area I'm very
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Speaker 6: familiar with, there's twenty eight percent unemployment and to a
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Speaker 6: big migrant ship that's taken up the housing. But also
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Speaker 6: the government knocked back a mind that could have gone
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Speaker 6: ahead in why I'm from a Korean company and created
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Speaker 6: enormous opportunities on the Central Coast in the seat of Doebell,
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Speaker 6: or labor held seat, and they knocked it back because
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Speaker 6: of the Greens influence.
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Speaker 1: So it breaks my heart to hear stories.
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Speaker 6: Like this when they've been missed opportunities because of the
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Speaker 6: labor government in seats like Dobell.
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Speaker 2: That is such a good point that they are doing
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Speaker 2: everything they can to put these enormous hurdles in front
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Speaker 2: of investors. That they've got companies that want to create jobs,
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Speaker 2: well paying jobs, and there is so much red tape,
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Speaker 2: green tape, black tape frustrating those efforts. And then they yeah,
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Speaker 2: that offer a few platitudes and say we're trying to
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Speaker 2: get them levels down to pre COVID era, as if
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Speaker 2: that is, as they were pretty high before COVID. They
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Speaker 2: just have exploded under labor to record levels.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we've got taxpayers forking out five hundred and sixty
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Speaker 2: million dollars a year to exempt one in three electric
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Speaker 2: vehicle drivers from paying benefits tax. And according to the
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Speaker 2: Productivity Commission, this ev exemption disproportionately favors the wealthy Tina,
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Speaker 2: this is just typical of labor. You've got working class,
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Speaker 2: middle class people subsidizing these till voting high income earners
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Speaker 2: who are buying these expensive electric vehicles.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, they're so expensive it really cuts out the
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Speaker 6: average Australian. Interestingly, they're so expensive. Even people like Zali
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Speaker 6: Stegel tier members still don't have an electric vehicle. So
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Speaker 6: it's just a total waste of money. That money, those
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Speaker 6: could be better spent elsewhere where people really need it
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Speaker 6: and are struggling.
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Speaker 2: And just finally, ladies, the Australian Human Rights Commission has
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Speaker 2: finally conceded to well, what sort of some of us
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Speaker 2: were saying at the time when it actually mattered, and
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Speaker 2: that was all about the treatment of Australians, particularly Victorians
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Speaker 2: during the COVID era, that that treatment was abhorrent. The
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Speaker 2: Commission's Collateral Damage Report says basic human rights were an
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Speaker 2: afterthought in the government's handling of the pandemic.
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Speaker 9: You don't say, yeah, she's pregnant, crying stuff.
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Speaker 1: Now they're fruiting.
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Speaker 3: They're not suiting, kidding me.
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Speaker 1: It's been eighteen months. The Future White Breast. They turned
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Speaker 1: you into a Nazi over knowledge I'm not even struggling.
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Speaker 2: Oh pro too little, much, too late from the Australian
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Speaker 2: Human Rights Commission. Where were they when it actually mattered.
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Speaker 4: Well, they're always asleep at the wheel until it suits them.
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Speaker 2: Rita. When you look back at that, isn't it horrifying?
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Speaker 4: You just feel like it's another world, another country, you know,
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Speaker 4: a third world country of dictatorship and under Andrews, that's
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Speaker 4: what it was. That man, on honestle should be in
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Speaker 4: the dock for what he did to that state and
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Speaker 4: crippling it financially as well.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just appalling.
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Speaker 4: And if the Labor Party, if the Liberal Party had
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Speaker 4: me brains, they'd be replaying that and replaying that because
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Speaker 4: that alone should be enough to impact on someone's vote
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Speaker 4: on a federal basis, because it's just what Labour's all true.
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Speaker 2: If only if only the Liberal Party in Victoria actually
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Speaker 2: stood up against that oppression. But they didn't. They were
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Speaker 2: right there saying they would have followed the same advice.
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Speaker 2: So Prue, McSween ten and McQueen, thank you ladies. Joining
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Speaker 2: me now is journalists and filmmaker Army Horoidz. Army, we
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Speaker 2: have taken one giant step towards a Ukraine Russian at peace. Still,
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Speaker 2: President Zelenski has accepted a ceasefire proposal after talks between
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Speaker 2: the US and Ukraine in Saudi Arabia. US Secretary of
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Speaker 2: State Mark Rubio has said, the ball is now in
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Speaker 2: Russia's court.
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Speaker 10: Today we meet an offer that the Ukraineans have accepted,
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Speaker 10: which is to enter into a ceasefire, into immediate negotiations
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Speaker 10: to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and
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Speaker 10: sustainable and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability
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Speaker 10: to prosper as a nation. We'll take this offer and
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Speaker 10: out of the Russians, and we hope that they'll say yes,
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Speaker 10: that they'll say yes to peace. The ball is now
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Speaker 10: in their court. But again, the President's objective here is
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Speaker 10: number one above everything else. He wants the war to end.
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Speaker 10: And I think today Ukraine has taken a concrete step
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Speaker 10: in that regard. We hope the Russians will reciprocate.
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Speaker 2: Ami. This is a massive step towards pace. Will it
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Speaker 2: be enduring peace, Will russ Us stick to the terms
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Speaker 2: of the agreement, And how quickly do you think Vladimir
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Speaker 2: Putin will come to the table.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I gotta tell you rito. I'm not sick of
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Speaker 11: being right. I can be right all day.
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Speaker 2: Law.
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Speaker 11: I mean, look, it took Trump fifty days to get
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Speaker 11: a thirty a cease fire that Biden couldn't you in
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Speaker 11: three years. Okay, Look, can we trust Can we trust Russia?
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Speaker 12: No?
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Speaker 11: I mean on in a in a vacuum, you cannot
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Speaker 11: trust Russia. But in context, Look, it's it's unclear first
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Speaker 11: of all, whether or not they'll acceptacies fire. Second of all,
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Speaker 11: if they do, whether or not they'll use it as
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Speaker 11: a real ceasefire, negotiate for peace, or use it as
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Speaker 11: a hutna.
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Speaker 1: It's an Arabic term that Arabs.
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Speaker 11: Generally, when Arabs do ceasefires, they are just this goes
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Speaker 11: back to Muhammad. They're just interregnums until they're able to
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Speaker 11: to have a strategic advantage that begin the war all
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Speaker 11: over again. So it's not clear. What is clear is
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Speaker 11: that this is a negotiation with Trump and not Biden. Right, Look,
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Speaker 11: the rhetoric has changed. You can now see how this
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Speaker 11: was all a master plan, a negotiating ploy to get
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Speaker 11: to the point of where we are now and to
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Speaker 11: move forward to an enduring peace. You can see the
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Speaker 11: steps all coming together. The rhetoric change, the actions have changed.
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Speaker 1: You.
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Speaker 11: Trumps, as we know, had an intelligence pause, a military
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Speaker 11: a's pause. Now that are those things are all back,
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Speaker 11: and now he's saying, hey, Russia, you better get in line.
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Speaker 11: If you don't, we're going to have devastating sanctions. He's
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Speaker 11: pivoted against Russia, which is exactly what he wasn't doing before.
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Speaker 11: But now he's got Ukraine where he wants it, and
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Speaker 11: now he's moving toward and targeting Russia. Let's also not
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Speaker 11: forget something it bears repeating. Buden invaded the Ukraine during Obama.
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Speaker 11: Buden invade Ukraine during Biden, who did not invade Ukraine
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Speaker 11: during Trump. He's scared of Trump, and I think that's
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Speaker 11: all gonna lead toward ultimately a deal.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's been reported that Donald Trump told
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Speaker 2: him in his first term, if you invade Ukraine, I
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Speaker 2: will bomb Moscow. And whether he would or not, he's
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Speaker 2: not the question. Obviously there was enough doubt in Vladimir
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Speaker 2: Putin's mind to rethink that sort of behavior. But this
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Speaker 2: is why it's so maddening to hear these idiots who
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Speaker 2: should know better describe President Trump as pro Russia. He
20:16
Speaker 2: has been the most anti Russia president we have seen.
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Speaker 2: He has tried over and over again to diminish Russia's power,
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Speaker 2: to diminish Europe's reliance on Russian energy, And yet he's
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Speaker 2: characterized in this way, and the Democrats are still pushing
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Speaker 2: their crazy Russian collusion theories, and they're doubling down army
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Speaker 2: on their support for characters that they should have nothing
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Speaker 2: to do with. I'm going to talk here about Marmwood Khalil.
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Speaker 2: This is a man who's been behind some really awful
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Speaker 2: protests at Columbia University, protests that have become violent, that
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Speaker 2: have left Jewish students fearing for their safety. The Trump
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Speaker 2: administration wants to deport him for these rights at Columbia,
21:08
Speaker 2: but the Democrats are doing all they can to stop
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Speaker 2: the deportation. Congressman Rashida to leave even like in Khalil's
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Speaker 2: treatment to fascism, she posted, we have to fight back
21:19
Speaker 2: against fascism. This is a test case and it couldn't
21:22
Speaker 2: be more important. We stop this and bring him home.
21:26
Speaker 2: Mahmoud's rights are our rights. If they can illegally abduct
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Speaker 2: him and treat his legal rights, they will never stop
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Speaker 2: anyone this lawless administration disagrees with can be targeted. Army,
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Speaker 2: tell me about this man and why Ice and the
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Speaker 2: Trump administration want him out of the country.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, in the words of Donald Trump, Charllo Mahmoud, goodbye. Look, Mahmud,
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Speaker 11: you play stupid games, you win stupid price. Let me
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Speaker 11: tell a little about the scribe Mahmud Khalil that the
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Speaker 11: Democrats are lining up behind. This is a guy who
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Speaker 11: is an active supporter of Kamas.
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Speaker 1: Right now.
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Speaker 11: This is the guy, by the way, you showed that
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Speaker 11: you showed you know, Rasha Tilay.
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Speaker 1: Okay, she's a she's a crazy.
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Speaker 11: The Senate Democrats have lined up behind them. Senate Democrats
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Speaker 11: official Twitter account and release Mahmoud Khalil. Right, they can't
22:27
Speaker 11: get behind a thirteen year old with cancer, but they
22:31
Speaker 11: can line up behind this terrorist supporter. I mean, bra,
22:37
Speaker 11: this is why you lost the election. You're doubling down
22:40
Speaker 11: on crazy, on nuts, on extremism. Americans realize that. And
22:47
Speaker 11: by the way, I know they're trying to say, wow,
22:49
Speaker 11: we don't like what he said, but it's legally on blowney,
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Speaker 11: this is all legal. The man is not a US citizen.
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Speaker 11: He's a green caller, a green cardhole.
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Speaker 1: That is a.
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Speaker 11: Statut like in the anti room waiting to become a citizen. Okay,
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Speaker 11: you don't have the exact same rights that we do
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Speaker 11: as US citizens. It is very clear if you're a
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Speaker 11: Green card holder and you call for support of a
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Speaker 11: terrorist organization, or call for support against violence for the
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Speaker 11: United States, or try to get somebody else to commit
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Speaker 11: violence in the United States, you have that Green card
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Speaker 11: revoked and you could be tossed out.
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Speaker 1: And he qualifies not for.
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Speaker 11: One of those things or two of those things, he
23:35
Speaker 11: qualifies for all three of those things. So the US
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Speaker 11: and Trump are well within their legal and more rights
23:42
Speaker 11: to throw this agitator out of our country.
23:46
Speaker 1: I am so glad he's done this.
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Speaker 2: Now, Ami, you've made a short doco on the Israel
23:54
Speaker 2: her Maas four and has Israel done enough to save
23:58
Speaker 2: Gazans or are they commit Seeing Jenoside.
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Speaker 11: The media was flooded with images of destroyed buildings, smashed
24:04
Speaker 11: to rumbled, and.
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Speaker 1: Alongside it the campaign.
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Speaker 11: To demonize Israel, a narrative accepted by many people on
24:11
Speaker 11: the left. Do you think that Israel's committing war crimes
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Speaker 11: in Gaza? Yes, like intentionally target civilians.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're just like blowing everything up.
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Speaker 1: Their conflict in Gaza.
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Speaker 11: Oh yes, So do you think that Israel is committing
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Speaker 11: war crimes?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 10: I did.
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Speaker 2: The definition of a genocide is yeah, do.
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Speaker 1: You think it's a genoside?
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Speaker 13: Well, I think they definitely are.
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Speaker 1: For sure, Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, from what it sounds like, I'd say so.
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Speaker 15: I think they acting improperly because they're killed in a
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Speaker 15: lot of innocent peoples.
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Speaker 2: Right, I think they are. I think they are take
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Speaker 2: committing work on I see it. I mean there is
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Speaker 2: hospitals and children.
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Speaker 1: They don't care about the Submidians.
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Speaker 11: So is Israel committing war crimes as the media is promulgated,
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Speaker 11: or is it following the rules of war?
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Speaker 2: Ami, you must just be dismayed by the opinion of
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Speaker 2: so many of your countrymen and women that they think
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Speaker 2: this is a deliberate genocide, that Israel is going out
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Speaker 2: of its way to kill civilians.
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Speaker 11: I'm glad you asked the exact opposite, because after I
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Speaker 11: interview those people and then we get to the documentary itself,
25:19
Speaker 11: and at the end of the documentary, you have those
25:22
Speaker 11: same people who I interview at the beginning, the ones
25:24
Speaker 11: we just saw and I showed them my documentary and
25:27
Speaker 11: they're watching it in real time. Every SWETA, every single
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Speaker 11: one of them changed their positions on Israel. All they
25:36
Speaker 11: needed was the actual facts. And you know what, here's
25:39
Speaker 11: what distresses me more than anything. This is there's one
25:43
Speaker 11: killer statistic. I say that obviously tongue in cheek, and
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Speaker 11: that statistic is this is that when when the most
25:50
Speaker 11: the most moral armies in the world, the armies of NATO,
25:54
Speaker 11: go to war, will they fight an urban warfare, which
25:57
Speaker 11: is Israel find themselves fighting in they because it's the
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Speaker 11: most brutal form of warfare NATO itself. Nine out of
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Speaker 11: ten people killed in that kind of warfare are civilians
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Speaker 11: in Afghanistan, for example, and any Iraq Israel, which is
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Speaker 11: fighting in a far more dense place right Gaza, where
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Speaker 11: you have an organization, a government, a government who is
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Speaker 11: deliberately trying to put its own civilians in harm's way,
26:28
Speaker 11: only one out of two of the people who are killed,
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Speaker 11: the civilians, fifty percent of them are in fact that
26:33
Speaker 11: people are trying to target, which I know sounds like
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Speaker 11: a lot. Look, I know you say the words every
26:38
Speaker 11: civilian life is too much, and that's true.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the day.
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Speaker 11: You have to look at data, and data shows that
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Speaker 11: the IDF is the most ethical army in the world.
26:47
Speaker 11: You know what people also forget And at the end
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Speaker 11: of that document. Towards the end of the documentary, I was
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Speaker 11: shooting in an Israel and when I was there, I
26:54
Speaker 11: was coming under withering rocket attack. People forget Israel for months,
26:59
Speaker 11: every every day was being rocketed by hamas from Gods
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Speaker 11: into Tel Aviv, into Jerusalem, into all these population shutters.
27:07
Speaker 11: And the only reason why there wasn't massive amount of
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Speaker 11: death because Israel's and technology iron dome to shoot these
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Speaker 11: things down in mid air.
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Speaker 1: But every hour, every hour I.
27:18
Speaker 11: Was there for a week read up, there were red
27:21
Speaker 11: alerts where people had to run from their homes.
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Speaker 2: People forget that army. People forget that. We've run out
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Speaker 2: of time, but we will bring more of that documentary
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Speaker 2: for our viewers next week. I'mi Harwait's thanks for your
27:34
Speaker 2: time tonight. Always a pleasure still to come. Lefties losing
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Speaker 2: it plus ten Walls wants to run for president in
27:42
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight mentioned that link. Lauren joins me next,
27:57
Speaker 2: you're watching the Raid of Paney Show, and it's time
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Speaker 2: for Lefties losing it. We have an update on one
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Speaker 2: of our favorite Trump deranged celebrities, though these days, Rosie
28:06
Speaker 2: o'donald is only famous for emoting incoherently on TikTok about
28:11
Speaker 2: Trump and her fever dreams about living in a fascist dictatorship.
28:15
Speaker 2: And it seems those fever dreams have seen Rosie flee
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Speaker 2: the US for Ireland. Yes, Ireland. Funny how these people
28:23
Speaker 2: never flee to a non white, non Christian country. They're
28:27
Speaker 2: not fleeing to Afghanistan or Zimbabwe or Guatemala.
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Speaker 12: Moved here on January fifteenth, and it's been pretty wonderful.
28:38
Speaker 12: I have to say, never someone who thought I would
28:41
Speaker 12: move to another country. That's what I decided would be
28:46
Speaker 12: the best for myself and my twelve year old child.
28:51
Speaker 12: I miss my other kids, I miss my friends, I
28:56
Speaker 12: miss many things about life there at home, and I'm
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Speaker 12: trying to find a home here in this beautiful country.
29:08
Speaker 12: And when you know it is safe for all citizens
29:12
Speaker 12: to have equal rates there in America, that's when we
29:18
Speaker 12: will consider coming back.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, she looks positively ecstatic. They're so happy, it's
29:24
Speaker 2: almost contagious, like that cold saw that was on her
29:27
Speaker 2: mouth the last time. She featured on left is exactly
29:31
Speaker 2: what rights is she being deprived of in the US?
29:34
Speaker 2: What rights does she no longer have? And is she
29:37
Speaker 2: aware that Island is a pretty socially conservative country. Abortion
29:41
Speaker 2: is only available on demand up to twelve weeks. That's
29:45
Speaker 2: more restrictive than the abortion laws in Mississippi. Rosie. Now,
29:51
Speaker 2: let's go to Rosie's old show. She was a view
29:53
Speaker 2: co host for several years, and as we well know,
29:57
Speaker 2: the level of weapon great crazy on that program has
30:00
Speaker 2: not changed, and the lefties losing it aren't just the hosts,
30:04
Speaker 2: but also the guests. Watch here, as supposed moderate Democrat
30:09
Speaker 2: Senator Elisa slot Could says that a fellow countryman, the
30:13
Speaker 2: majority of them are dumb, overgrown teenagers whose brains haven't
30:18
Speaker 2: fully formed. Gosh, I wonder why the Dems are unelectable.
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Speaker 16: We're still pretty young for a country. These are like
30:26
Speaker 16: our angry teenage years, right. We are going through this
30:30
Speaker 16: push and pull where we're happy, we're sad.
30:32
Speaker 2: We want this, we want that.
30:33
Speaker 16: And what do you do when you have a teenager
30:35
Speaker 16: who's threatening themselves and others? You just try to get
30:39
Speaker 16: them through this period alive so that their brain can
30:42
Speaker 16: fully form and you can come back to kind of
30:44
Speaker 16: what a country Trump, No, I'm talking about our country.
30:48
Speaker 16: We're a pendulum swinging, We're mandulum swinging. And so for me,
30:52
Speaker 16: I think that I don't think there's a single American
30:54
Speaker 16: who feels like this is normal.
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Speaker 2: Oh dear, when even leftist like Van Jones telling you
31:00
Speaker 2: to stop insulting the country with your absurd characterizations, but
31:06
Speaker 2: perhaps you should reconsider the invitation to appear on the
31:09
Speaker 2: View and reflect on why your party is in crisis.
31:13
Speaker 2: Let's hear from Van Jones.
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Speaker 1: Look, man, we're screwed.
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Speaker 9: I mean, we don't know.
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Speaker 15: No Democrats don't know what to do.
31:19
Speaker 1: This is a nightmare.
31:21
Speaker 15: Listen, the Democratic Party is going through a massive set
31:26
Speaker 15: of internal crises. You have a party that got trapped
31:30
Speaker 15: two ways. One defending a broken status quo that nobody
31:36
Speaker 15: likes because they thought that Dawn Trump was going to
31:39
Speaker 15: make it worse. But when you're defending a status quo,
31:41
Speaker 15: you're going to lose and then offending most people in
31:44
Speaker 15: the country, calling everybody sexist and racist and transphobic and
31:48
Speaker 15: every other name, and then say please follow us.
31:50
Speaker 2: Now, let's meet some straight young ladies who claim to
31:54
Speaker 2: be transgay men. So these ladies were born it is
32:00
Speaker 2: they present as female. They like men, but they are
32:04
Speaker 2: somehow queer trans gay man.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're fan presenting.
32:08
Speaker 4: So we were just shouting.
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Speaker 2: We were shouting that we were a trans gay man
32:11
Speaker 2: because we are what is a trans gay man biologically female?
32:16
Speaker 2: But we're transman and we're gay. We're like, guys, do
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Speaker 2: you have gender dysfloria? Yes, heavily.
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Speaker 12: Are you're stelf representing?
32:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still fan present.
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Speaker 6: I find it comfortable, but at the same time, it
32:28
Speaker 6: does get hard when I can't look mask.
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Speaker 12: So do you do you identify as as gay or
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Speaker 12: a queer?
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Speaker 8: As queer?
32:35
Speaker 2: I think that identify as insufferable attention seekers. Joining me
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Speaker 2: now is political commentator and former senior advisor to RFK
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Speaker 2: Junior Link Lauren Link. Let's start with Dylan Mulvaaney is
32:50
Speaker 2: back back on the view, back all over social media,
32:53
Speaker 2: and with a new book to promote. I've got to ask,
32:57
Speaker 2: have you ordered your copy yet?
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Speaker 13: Great to be back with you, Rita, No, I have
33:04
Speaker 13: not ordered a copy of the book. I don't think
33:06
Speaker 13: I will be ordering a copy of the book.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why.
33:09
Speaker 13: Dylan mulvaney needs a memoir, right, you're under thirty, We're
33:13
Speaker 13: about the same age. Dylan Morvani put on a wig
33:16
Speaker 13: and address and suddenly wants to play the victim for
33:19
Speaker 13: fame and fortune. Unless you are Anne Frank or Malala
33:22
Speaker 13: or someone who has gone through a harrowing experience, we
33:25
Speaker 13: do not need a memoir from you if you are
33:27
Speaker 13: still a child.
33:31
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. How much how much insider
33:34
Speaker 2: we're going to get and how much do we want?
33:38
Speaker 2: Dylan was on the View yesterday, I think it was.
33:42
Speaker 2: We played some footage of that, and really what was
33:44
Speaker 2: more interesting than Dylan Mulvainy's appearance was will Be Goldberg
33:49
Speaker 2: going on this bizarre tie rade about why men should
33:53
Speaker 2: be able to compete in women's sport, and no female
33:56
Speaker 2: athlete could possibly have a problem with that. I've got
33:59
Speaker 2: to say, I think even Dylan mulvaaney looked bemused by
34:03
Speaker 2: WHOOPI Goldberg's rant.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean, having an intellectual conversation with Whoopy Goldberg
34:10
Speaker 13: is like taking driver's head from Stevie Wonder. It's something
34:13
Speaker 13: you don't want to do. I also just found out
34:15
Speaker 13: Whoopy Goldberg is not transgender. Herself. I thought for the
34:18
Speaker 13: longest time she was. I think Dylan going to the View.
34:21
Speaker 1: Is also plain because it's.
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Speaker 13: The one it's the one room where Dylan is actually
34:26
Speaker 13: the most feminine person if you look at the panel
34:28
Speaker 13: of the View. So yeah, Dylan was the fuddled. But
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Speaker 13: about eighty percent of Americans, they do not want men
34:34
Speaker 13: and women's sports, right, this is an eighty twenty issue
34:36
Speaker 13: here in the United States. So we're on the side
34:38
Speaker 13: of common sense. Dylan mulvaney calls all of us extremists
34:42
Speaker 13: because we want common sense. We're in the middle. We're fair,
34:45
Speaker 13: we're balanced. We're looking at Dylan mulvaney and Whoopy Goldberg thinking,
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Speaker 13: you guys are the extremists for wanting men in women's
34:50
Speaker 13: sports and women's locker rooms.
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Speaker 2: Well, they were almost shocked that Gavin Newsom, the Democrat
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Speaker 2: governor of California, said that it's unfair to have men's
35:03
Speaker 2: bodies in women's sports. So when Gavin Newsom is too
35:07
Speaker 2: right wing for you, perhaps you've got some issues there.
35:11
Speaker 2: And the Democrats, well, when they're not busy calling most
35:14
Speaker 2: of the country racist or sexist or transphobic, they're on
35:19
Speaker 2: social media link making absolute fools of themselves. So many examples.
35:24
Speaker 2: I'm just going to show a couple here, because we
35:25
Speaker 2: don't have all day. Let's have a look at some
35:28
Speaker 2: of Jasmine Crockett's work.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, they tried to rip the game, but you can't
35:32
Speaker 14: seak influence.
35:34
Speaker 1: Like that. Hey you'm tripping, I'm slamming, I'm run give
35:37
Speaker 1: it back, like, what's that big?
35:41
Speaker 2: And here's another Democrat. This one's old enough to know better.
35:45
Speaker 2: She's eighty two years old. This is Rosa Deloro. She
35:49
Speaker 2: just posted this on TikTok link. What is happening with
36:05
Speaker 2: the Democrats right now? Is there a sane, moderate voice
36:10
Speaker 2: among them who can restore some level of rationality and
36:16
Speaker 2: make them electable again.
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Speaker 13: The Democrats in DC, they do not want to work.
36:22
Speaker 13: They want to sing and dance and break into chorus
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Speaker 13: on the house floor. They think they're in the show
36:27
Speaker 13: Glee or high school musical. They do not want to
36:29
Speaker 13: work at all. Why don't you guys go to work
36:32
Speaker 13: for your constituents. You're posting these dancing videos. They don't
36:36
Speaker 13: want to work.
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Speaker 1: They want to twork.
36:37
Speaker 13: That's what's happening in Washington, d C. But they're also
36:40
Speaker 13: in a deficit with young men. The Democratic Party here
36:43
Speaker 13: in the States, they're really at a deficit with young men.
36:45
Speaker 13: I don't know what's going on with Jasmine Crockett or
36:48
Speaker 13: Congresswoman Deloro, but how is that going to help you
36:51
Speaker 13: with young men? I mean, this one is eighty two
36:53
Speaker 13: years old. She looks like Grizabella from Cats. Young men
36:55
Speaker 13: aren't really resonating with that image the Democratic Party is
36:59
Speaker 13: putting forward.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, because they portray young men as the enemy.
37:06
Speaker 2: They talk about how toxic masculinity is, and they really
37:11
Speaker 2: have made no effort to moderate those views at all.
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Speaker 2: Megan Mirkal, now, I can't have you on the program
37:19
Speaker 2: and not get your thoughts on her new program, what
37:23
Speaker 2: would you call it? Lifestyle series, reality series, whatever it is.
37:27
Speaker 2: It's been mocked mercilessly online. It's critics, viewers, there's the
37:34
Speaker 2: parodies have started.
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Speaker 5: Welcome to my home.
37:37
Speaker 13: Well, it's not my homeworks to set, actually, but I'll
37:39
Speaker 13: go to my set. You know, it's actually so funny
37:43
Speaker 13: that you keep calling Megan Markle I'm Sussex now and
37:47
Speaker 13: take thee and we're going to take them out of
37:50
Speaker 13: the box.
37:52
Speaker 2: Yes, took them out of the box, put them into
37:55
Speaker 2: other packets, which seems to be Meghan's idea of cooking.
37:59
Speaker 2: This is just a terrible program link what little of
38:02
Speaker 2: it I have seen has been mind numbingly boring, lame.
38:08
Speaker 2: There's nothing really aspirational about it. You would think, at
38:11
Speaker 2: least Lifestyles of the rich and famous, you'd see some
38:13
Speaker 2: beautiful things, get some ideas about home wez And no,
38:17
Speaker 2: it's not even aspirational. It's just inauthentic and just unlikable.
38:24
Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean, Meghan Markele's show is so boring. It's
38:28
Speaker 13: also like this dystopian fever dream, like California is burning
38:31
Speaker 13: to the ground. But Megan Markle this ex wanna be
38:34
Speaker 13: Duchess's trapesing around a rented mansion and a rented kitchen
38:38
Speaker 13: with her fake friends, baking donuts and making rainbow root platters. Right,
38:42
Speaker 13: so this is supposed to be a woman of the people.
38:46
Speaker 13: What's also funny to me is that they couched this
38:48
Speaker 13: reality show as being her hanging out with her best friends.
38:51
Speaker 13: On the first episode, she has her makeup artist come over, Right,
38:55
Speaker 13: this is staff Meghan.
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Speaker 2: Martas stuff kitchen.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a fake kitchen, they're fake friends.
39:01
Speaker 1: She's fage.
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Speaker 13: She has no authenticity, and we're really in an era
39:04
Speaker 13: where people want authenticity. I want to see the real
39:08
Speaker 13: Meghan Markle. Why don't they do a reality show where
39:10
Speaker 13: Harry leaves the toilet set up, she falls in and
39:13
Speaker 13: chases them through the mansion with her scrawnie legs. That's
39:15
Speaker 13: the show I want to see. We've all heard the
39:17
Speaker 13: stories about Megan Markle bullying staff at the palace. What
39:20
Speaker 13: about a show where Meghan Markle throws a cell phone
39:22
Speaker 13: at an assistant when she's minorly inconvenienced. Give us a
39:25
Speaker 13: real Megan Markle show. But this fake phony contrive bs
39:30
Speaker 13: is not interesting to any of us.
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Speaker 2: It's not I would watch that if just Meghan's bullying
39:37
Speaker 2: her staff or having a fights with Harry's family, that
39:43
Speaker 2: would be in throlling. I mean, that's why people watch
39:46
Speaker 2: the Real Housewives, That's why they watch the Kardashians, because
39:49
Speaker 2: there's plenty of ugly content in they're mixed in with
39:53
Speaker 2: all the you know, lifestyle aspirational stuff. Now, you did
39:57
Speaker 2: note that on this program her idea of cooking is
40:02
Speaker 2: taking pretzels. I think it was from one packet and
40:05
Speaker 2: shifting them to another packet. I mean if you're not
40:08
Speaker 2: going to make them from scratch, what really is the
40:09
Speaker 2: point of the program.
40:11
Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean they're paying Megan Markle millions of dollars
40:15
Speaker 13: and she took pretzels from one bag into another. This woman,
40:19
Speaker 13: she's not in mensa. Okay, I'm starting to think maybe
40:22
Speaker 13: Megan Markle isn't as bright as she purports to be.
40:25
Speaker 13: Taking pretzels from one bag into another does not take
40:28
Speaker 13: genius IQ. Okay, Megan Markle. I also have to say
40:32
Speaker 13: if you're a mom, if you're a working parent out
40:34
Speaker 13: there and you're rushing to get your kids ready for school,
40:36
Speaker 13: you do not have time to make a rainbow fruit
40:39
Speaker 13: platter or gourmet donuts. If I came downstairs as a
40:42
Speaker 13: kid and my mom had made a rainbow fruit platter,
40:45
Speaker 13: I would have thought she was on speed or someone
40:47
Speaker 13: had died.
40:50
Speaker 2: You would be asking some questions. She ain't, Mamas Stewart,
40:53
Speaker 2: we can say that much now. The worst VP candidate ever?
40:59
Speaker 2: If you asked may Tim Walls, well, he wants to
41:03
Speaker 2: be the worst presidential candidate ever? Is Tim Walls really
41:09
Speaker 2: contemplating running in twenty twenty eight? Surely not link, surely not?
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Speaker 13: Well, I don't think there's going to be any big
41:17
Speaker 13: donors for Tim Walls. And politics is all about money, right,
41:21
Speaker 13: So if the donors aren't there, then Tim Walls really
41:23
Speaker 13: doesn't have a campaign whatsoever moving into twenty twenty eight.
41:26
Speaker 13: But this just shows how delusional Tim Walls actually is
41:30
Speaker 13: that he even thinks he could be a front runner
41:33
Speaker 13: in twenty twenty eight. I mean, America does not want
41:35
Speaker 13: an overgrown Disney adult with a questionable Internet search history
41:40
Speaker 13: running the country. I don't even want Tim Walls near
41:42
Speaker 13: a McDonald's playground, let alone in charge of the nuclear code.
41:46
Speaker 13: So he's very, very delusional. He might have a career
41:49
Speaker 13: on Broadway. He's got those Bob bossy jazz hands that
41:52
Speaker 13: would be great for Tim Walls, but in presidential politics
41:55
Speaker 13: absolutely not.
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, but I will me he's not seeing his
42:01
Speaker 2: wife again because she was terrifying Gwen Woles if I
42:05
Speaker 2: remember correctly. Link Lauren, it's always a pleasure. Thank you
42:09
Speaker 2: so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 13: Spaking reader. Always exciting still to come.
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Speaker 2: Well, look at how the Trump administration plans to demoralize
42:17
Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. Alireza Jaffar Zadia joins me next welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the deputy director of the Washington
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Speaker 2: Office of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, Ali
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Speaker 2: Reza Jaffar Zadair Ali Reza. After four years of the
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Speaker 2: Biden administration, where Iran seemed to be emboldened and enriched,
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is taking a different approach. Is demanding talks
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Speaker 2: with Iran Supreme leader to negotiate a new deal. Iran
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Speaker 2: has so far responded saying that they will not neotiate
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Speaker 2: a new deal, then will not deal with bulling governments.
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Speaker 2: That's their response to the US. What do you say
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Speaker 2: happening next? And what do you make of the Trump
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Speaker 2: administration's approach to Iran?
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Speaker 1: Well, certainly Rita.
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Speaker 14: In the past, the policy of appeasement of the Iran regime,
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Speaker 14: whether it was by the United States or Europe, has
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Speaker 14: been very destructive.
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Speaker 1: It allowed the run.
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Speaker 14: Regime billions of dollars of money and resources that they
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Speaker 14: used to fund terror in the region, but also using
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Speaker 14: that money for expanding their nuclear weapons program. But also
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Speaker 14: the outside world didn't hold the Iran regime to account
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Speaker 14: for their nuclear violations. When we first exposed the nuclear
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Speaker 14: sites of Iran in August of two thousand and two.
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Speaker 14: They were in very early stages and that program could
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Speaker 14: have been stopped at the time, but that wasn't the case.
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Speaker 14: Now the whole situation is different. At the time that
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Speaker 14: the regime is very close to building the bomb. They're
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Speaker 14: working on building nuclear warheads. They are limiting the IEA
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Speaker 14: inspections of the Uranian nuclear sites.
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Speaker 1: The world should really focus.
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Speaker 14: On shutting down the entire nuclear operation of the Iran
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Speaker 14: regime because that program is all about nuclear weapons, it's
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Speaker 14: not about energy.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 14: That has been the stated policy recently by the United States,
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Speaker 14: and Fabruary fourth, the President announced that those nuclear sites
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Speaker 14: needs to shut down.
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Speaker 1: They run a regime responded both.
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Speaker 14: The Supreme Dare and the President saying that we're not
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Speaker 14: going to do that, but let's sit down and talk
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Speaker 14: and negotiate.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 14: The reason the regime is doing it because they want
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Speaker 14: to drag the United States but also Europeans and others
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Speaker 14: into the negotiating table and start getting into the details
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Speaker 14: like how much uranium we're going to have and all
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Speaker 14: of those things, which is exactly serving the purpose of Tehran.
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Speaker 14: We're racing against the clock come October of this year,
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Speaker 14: the UN Security Council resolution sanctions and limitations are going
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Speaker 14: to expire, so would the mechanism known as a snapback.
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Speaker 1: That you can get the back.
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Speaker 14: So that's why I think it's so important to keep
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Speaker 14: the focus on snapping back the sanctions on the around regime,
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Speaker 14: maintaining the focus that those sites all need to be
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Speaker 14: shut down.
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Speaker 2: Can the US exert further economic pressure to force the
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Speaker 2: Iranian regime to change direction because an Iran that has
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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons that is a frightening prospect for the region
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Speaker 2: and for the world.
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Speaker 14: Definitely don't want to allow the run A regime to
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Speaker 14: develop nuclear weapons. Imagine without the nuclear bomb, they are
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Speaker 14: the head of the sake of war and terror in
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Speaker 14: the whole region. And if they are armed with the
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Speaker 14: nuclear bomb, that would really shift the whole situation, especially
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Speaker 14: in now that the regime has lost a lot of
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Speaker 14: its cloud in the region.
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Speaker 1: You know Hesbala in Lebanon, they lost asset.
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Speaker 14: In Syria, and she had militias in Iraq. The population
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Speaker 14: in Iran are rising up, you know, they've been doing
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Speaker 14: it for the past several years, nine rounds of major
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Speaker 14: uprisings in Iran, people calling for change. In all thirty
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Speaker 14: one provinces. So really the only short way of ending
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Speaker 14: the nuclear and terror threat of the Iran regime is
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Speaker 14: to end the rule of the clerics in Iran, and
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Speaker 14: of course that's the responsibility of the people of Iran
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Speaker 14: and the organized resistance that will happen. The Iran regime
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Speaker 14: doesn't have the support of its population. No matter what
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Speaker 14: they do, how many people they killed. By the way,
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Speaker 14: since the Possession took office, over one thousand prisoners have
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Speaker 14: been executed.
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Speaker 1: None of that is going to work.
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Speaker 14: None of that is going to save a regime that
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Speaker 14: is rejected by its own population and is facing a
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Speaker 14: very organized, strong resistance against the rule.
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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Iran is a chief sponsor of terrorism
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Speaker 2: in the region, biggest fackers of the likes of Hamas
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Speaker 2: and Hezbela, to name just a couple. What would be
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Speaker 2: your advice to the Trump administration and how to deal
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Speaker 2: with this regime, because we've seen the Democrats policy of
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Speaker 2: appeasement and diplomatic measures has not worked. It's only emboldened
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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. If you were advising Donald Trump, what
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Speaker 2: would be your main piece of advice to him.
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Speaker 14: My advice to both President Trump but also European leaders,
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Speaker 14: anyone who's affected by this regime is very simple.
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Speaker 1: Now is the time.
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Speaker 14: This is the time to end the rule of the clerics,
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Speaker 14: and of course.
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Speaker 1: That the responsiblity of the people of Iran.
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Speaker 14: What the administration can do is to limit the resources.
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Speaker 1: To the regime.
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Speaker 14: Don't give them money, don't give them resources, don't give
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Speaker 14: them legitimacy, hold the Tehran accountable for their violations of
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Speaker 14: nuclear weapons program, for their terrorism, but also for the
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Speaker 14: killings in Iran. That's an important element, but that's not enough.
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Speaker 14: The most crucial thing are those on the ground, those
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Speaker 14: who want to bring about change.
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Speaker 1: There's no need for boots on.
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Speaker 14: The ground, there's no need for even appropriating money.
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Speaker 1: None of that is needed.
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Speaker 14: The people of Iran have the capability to bring down
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Speaker 14: the regime. They have a clear platform that for the
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Speaker 14: future of Iran that is based on separation of religion
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Speaker 14: and state, ballot box being the sole criteria for legitimacy.
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Speaker 14: They want to free market economy, gender equality, freedom of religion,
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Speaker 14: peace in the medialleast, and a non nuclear republic Iran.
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Speaker 14: So what would the United States do? You stand with them.
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Speaker 14: You recognize the right of the people if you're right.
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Speaker 2: That's it. You stand with the you stand with the protesters,
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Speaker 2: and we see we saw Barack Obama fail to do
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Speaker 2: that over and over again during his presidency. Alirezzo Jaffar Zadia,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight. That's it
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Speaker 2: from May. I'll see you tomorrow night at eleven with
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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray. Up next is Newsnight