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Is DC Studios in Trouble??? · The K.B. Radio Network

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Hello everyone and welcome to Movie Goodness where we examine life through cinema here on the KB Radio Network.
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I am your host Kevin Reed and boy oh boy has comic book fans,
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comic book movie fans,
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superhero fans lost their collective minds over this past weekend after the release of
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DC Studios
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Supergirl a film that
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I don't know I don't think that movie stood a chance as far as box office was concerned but the critic response to it was oh my god if you were a layman or just a casual film lover
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you know go to the movies every now and then only go to the movies to see a film that Yeah.
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is a big blockbuster film because you don't have money to just spend on any old movie okay i'm gonna wait for a big superhero type movie oh supergirl okay i'll go see that if you were waiting on the reviews to
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go see it you probably would have stayed at home most likely you would have stayed at home because everybody hated that movie uh critic wise and and some of the audience well most of the audience let's be
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fair the movie uh opened up to i think 37 million domestically which is well below expectations the expectations were already set low i think they were expecting
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45 ish maybe close to 50 opening weekend which is well below what they really wanted but they shot low in hopes to hitting that mark so they can kind of celebrate they being
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DC Studios and Warner Brothers and it fell well below that mark so it is a big big bomb domestically and it wasn't helped by the critics and by the audience response
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I saw the film did a review if you haven't heard my review and heard my thoughts and feelings about the film it's all up on all of my platforms but
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Just to give you a little cliff notes version of it,
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I actually enjoyed the film.
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I didn't think it was that bad.
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Now,
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I had fully addressed the movie had issues.
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The movie had problems.
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And it wasn't a perfect movie by no stretch.
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There aren't any perfect movies,
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maybe three in the history of all films,
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that you can really sit back and say,
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that was perfect.
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That was a perfect film.
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from the acting directing the writing the score the cinematography everything was perfect you don't you don't catch movies like that you know so that that's not what i was expecting but in my review i stated that
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my expectations were pretty low going into supergirl because that's not a character that i truly followed in the comics that i would consider one of my favorites i respect the character like
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the character you know like the character on uh uh the cw when uh melissa uh benoach i think her name is portrayed her thought that was great you know i'm a kid of the 80s so the 84 film with helen slater i watched that fully acknowledged it was terrible back in 84 and it's a terrible movie now but
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you know it was what it was i'm not a big supergirl fan but
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I was excited to see this version of it and for the most part I was entertained.
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I went to the movie to be entertained.
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I was entertained so I was happy.
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I wasn't looking for
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Shakespeare you know it was what it was but my god is this movie being torched.
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I saw I saw one review that said it was the worst comic book movie ever made and all I could think about when I saw that
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I was like you must didn't watch Morbius.
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There's no way you watched Madam Web.
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There's no possible way you watched Batman and Robin and felt that this movie was worse than that.
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There's no way this movie was all right.
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To be honest with you in comparisons to the Superman film that we received last year it's up there with that and I wasn't the biggest fan of that movie.
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But just like this movie,
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I enjoyed it for what it was.
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I wasn't looking for anything spectacular or.
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trying to reinvent the wheel in a superhero movies fashion i just wanted to be entertained i just wanted to see a good superman movie and i got it and the same here but i went to thinking and i saw a lot of people questioning
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what's going on at dc studios well is there a problem there well there is one there is one and i said look i'm gonna join in on the fun
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i'm gonna give my opinion on what's going on at uh dc studios and why it appears that it is it's not even it's not i would say crashing and burning but we haven't really lifted
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off yet you know this is only the second film in this new quote-unquote reboot of the dc universe you know with Peter Safran and
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James Gunn.
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taken over as the heads of dc studios this is only their second go at it as far as the theatrical release now we got other properties within the dcu you know you got creature commandos you had uh a peacemaker season two you
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got to realize that when when peter saffron and james gunn took over they pretty much inherited a mess
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just a dumpster fire you know we're coming off the heels of black adam which was was what it was you know uh henry cavill quote unquote returning as superman in that movie and announcing to the world that he's back and
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just to be told a couple of days later that no no you're not and it it was it was it was it was so crushing i felt so bad for henry cavill
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uh that he didn't get his real true superman movie you know man of steel was look i i will fight to the death and argue that man of steel is one of the best comic book movies ever made i loved man of steel um
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but as far as a traditional superman movie no it wasn't you know it wasn't
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him coming into his own him actually being superman you know he was starting off you know he was a young pup in the game and so you didn't really get that and also you have the batman problem which is probably the biggest
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property that dc has that is the most popular character and not just i'm not just saying that because that's my all-time favorite comic book character ever did you
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You know,
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I'm saying it because it's true.
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You know,
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look at the box office numbers of Batman movies.
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Going all the way back to Michael Keaton in 1989,
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Batman Films has literally saved
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DC because no other
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DC property has been as successful as a Batman film,
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a standalone Batman film.
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Even when you put Batman in a film with others,
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it doesn't do as good as a...
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batman film by itself isn't that crazy justice league was trash uh uh batman v superman i'm not gonna say it was trash but it wasn't what we all expected or was hoping it to be and
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so when james gunn took over you already have matt reeves with his batman he already has the batman with robert Pattinson and
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That was well received by critics and fans alike.
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It was great.
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That was a great film.
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And so you got
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James Gunn wanting to create his own universe,
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but you have this other film here,
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and you can't create a DCU without your Batman.
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Yes,
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you need your Superman.
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You really need your Holy Trinity.
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You need Superman,
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Batman,
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and Wonder Woman to kick off this universe.
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Marvel was the outlier.
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Marvel,
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what they did was unique and probably would never be done again.
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And
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James Gunn,
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in a lot of ways,
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was trying to do the same thing.
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Meaning,
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when you had Marvel,
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Marvel started off with Iron Man back in 2008.
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Marvel used characters,
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because they had no other choice at the time,
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but they used characters that were lesser known.
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not too many people knew about Iron Man.
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Not too many people knew about Thor.
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Not too many people followed
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Captain America like that.
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You know,
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that wasn't.
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their core you know in marvel comics it was the x-men it was spider-man you know it was it was the avengers but they were all together and so it wasn't your main core there but marvel studios had to do that because they didn't have the right to
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all of their characters but they had to work with what they had so what they gave us were these b-level you
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they were b-level they're not now because of their popularity but they were b-level characters in the comics and focused on story focused on building uh a lore around these characters that the audience can get behind and
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it built up till we got to the avengers and and
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After that,
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it was shooting for the moon.
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Now you can introduce a Guardians of the Galaxy.
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You can introduce a Captain Marvel.
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You can introduce all of these other characters as well and throw them in the mix.
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And eventually,
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they got their rights back to a lot of their characters.
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That's when you got
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Spider-Man. That's when Black Panther came into the fold.
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That's when you got the Fantastic Four and the X-Men that's coming soon for them.
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You know,
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now.
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you're anticipating that now marvel just to be fair marvel is in just as much trouble as dc studios are right now but a lot of that um just to deviate a little bit a lot of that and this that applies to marvel
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and dc is because of fatigue you know a while back i did a show uh talking about fatigue because that was a thing i think it was maybe a year
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ago maybe two years ago that people are starting to get tired of comic book movies and i didn't think that was the case then but i i can say that right now i'm feeling like that's probably the case i
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think that a lot of people are being just oversaturated with comic book characters in in superhero movies and and tv shows and i think that tv is the culprit here
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I think these screaming services are killing this genre because now you're getting so much.
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We're getting Spider Noir on cable.
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We're getting
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Secret Invasion and
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WandaVision and
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Falcon and the Winter Soldier and all of these other shows on Disney Plus that's connected.
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Ironheart and all this other stuff.
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All this stuff.
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It's just.
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it's just a lot and all of it is connected so you're asking the audience to do homework and that's something we don't want to do we don't want to do we we just want to sit back and watch a movie and enjoy that movie for what it is you know it it's fine that it's connected but we don't have to have all
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of these other things that we have to watch and pay attention to it
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see the references to for example and i'm gonna get back to dc i know we're talking dc but i'm trying to set up something here just just look at the marvels that movie now the movie wasn't good but
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one of the reasons it was unsuccessful at the box office is because you had characters your two two of the three main characters were introduced you
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on disney plus and nobody knew who they were a lot of the not everybody watched the disney plus show not everybody watched miss marvel not everybody watched uh wandavision and so you didn't get these the introduction of these characters who they are how they fit in this universe and
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the movie crashed and burned now i watched all those shows and watched the marvels and i still felt it was bad
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so that's not the issue but that that's part of the problem but i'm getting off track let's get let's hop back over to dc here and dc kind of has that same problem the point i was trying to make is it's
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too much going on because with matt reeves and robert pattinson's batman and batman part two is currently filming supposed to come out next year fingers crossed can't wait for that uh
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You have that going on,
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but you have a different Batman that's about to be introduced in the proper
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DC Universe.
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You know?
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now you're confusing audiences now you have two batmen running around and that's silly you know that makes about as much sense as you have a david corn sweat superman and then you're going to bring in henry cavill to do a one-off superman
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movie that's going to confuse people it's bad enough you're already confused because we're not too far removed from seeing henry cavill as superman it was just a couple of years ago
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when he was superman and black adam and now you have david corn sweat as superman you know it's too close together now is that james gunn and peter saffron's fault no it's not their fault i don't blame them for this because they have their own vision you
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know they have their own plan laid out and that didn't fit into it but yet and still you can't just throw away
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matt reeves batman universe because it is highly successful and and well received and so you gotta let him finish his story and it's just a lot going on there's a lot going on uh within that that little realm but
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the issue with dc i see right now the the problem we have is james gunn james gunn is the problem
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now this isn't a bash james gunn show i'm not bashing him i'm a huge fan of james gunn i'm going all the way back to slither i'm going i'm going back to him writing the dawn of the dead remake that was directed by zack snyder uh uh coincidentally enough i
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i go i loved james gunn i love his work guardians of the galaxy uh all three of them i love suicide squad i i thought
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that superman was a decent superman movie i didn't have a problem with it like everybody else i don't have a problem with james gunn in his directing i don't have a problem with it the problem i have is you can't be a writer director
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and a ceo of a studio at the same time it it conflicts vision
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Now,
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he had this big press conference when he was first announced as the CEO,
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and he laid out this
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10-year plan that he had.
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He announced buku movies and TV shows that were going to supposedly come to fruition.
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So far,
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I think four out of 10 has really went into production or been released.
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But besides that,
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I knew early on.
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all that wasn't going to happen it was no way all that was going to happen but in that press conference or that video he released he stated that oh they're gonna respect author uh not authors but uh the writer's vision and the directors that they bring in vision now at that time when he made that he
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wasn't signed on to be the director of superman now he did say he was writing it
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But everybody pretty much guessed correctly and said that he was going to direct it as well,
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which he did.
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He did end up directing it,
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just like he's about to direct,
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or not about to,
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they're currently making Man of Tomorrow as well.
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You got too much going on.
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And once again,
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to switch back over to
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Marvel, some of the issues that people point out about Marvel is that...
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Kevin Feige,
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who's the head honcho there,
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he has his hands into everything right now,
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and it's too many eyes on the fire.
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It's too,
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he's too,
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wait,
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how's the saying go?
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He's scratched too thin?
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He's scratched too thin,
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you know,
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because you got the movies coming out.
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You have the
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Disney Plus series coming out.
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It's all this stuff going on,
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and he's scratched too thin,
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and he can't.
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focus on one thing like he used to he used to focus on just the films and it was it was pretty i'm not gonna say simple because making movies is far from simple but you can focus on one thing at a time but when you're filming black
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panther wakanda forever and you also got she hawk and uh uh what else came around came out around that time you had a
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few things you had echo and all this other stuff all that going on at the same time it was it was too much going on and so you and you can tell that the quality dip
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it dipped and it's been dipping ever since nothing has that same magic as the first three phases ever since in-game it was truly the end game it it hasn't been clicking maybe three or four films
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that have been like okay that felt like marvel you know all the spider-man films with tom holland were great you know sung shang chi was great
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uh i like thunderbolts that was pretty good um outside of that it hasn't been it has not been a fun ride for marvel but he has scratched himself too thin and i think the same thing has happened in the james gunn he is scratching himself too thin he's he
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wrote all the episodes to creature commandos really good show that animated series
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Really good show.
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That was the first thing out the gate for them,
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for
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DC Studios.
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I thought it was great,
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except for that final episode,
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which was,
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I don't know what happened.
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Because it was excellent up to that point.
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But he went on and made
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Superman, wrote,
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directed Superman.
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And then he went into
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Peacemaker Season 2,
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which he shoehorned into this universe,
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because that was a product.
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of the DCEU but he found the way to twist and turn it and put it into this universe this new rebooted universe which was fine it
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wasn't a clean transition but it was alright he did that,
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he wrote episodes of that,
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he even directed a few episodes of that now he's writing and directing
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man of tomorrow as well and now depending on who you listen to he also dipped his toe into the supergirl movie you know he he picked some of those needle drops throughout that film which you can tell that
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if it just felt at moments like it was trying to copy a james gunn movie now i don't know if that was craig galepsy trying to emulate james gunn or you
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James Gunn had a hand in it.
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I don't know.
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We probably never know.
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But at this point,
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it really doesn't matter.
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The movie is set to lose the studio close to $100 million.
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That's not a good start for this studio.
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You're two movies in,
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and you're already losing $100 million.
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That's not good.
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Now,
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upcoming,
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along with Man of Tomorrow,
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which comes out next year,
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You have...
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before that you got clay face now clay face looks really good clay face looks like a full-on horror film you know low budget little horror film that's that's you know based in a superhero world in gotham so i you
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got my attention there and i think it's gonna i think it's gonna be successful i think it's gonna be good it looks really good looks good from that teaser trailer that we got now could i go there and be disappointed absolutely the
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But I am looking forward to it still.
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You have Lanterns that comes out,
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I think,
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in August,
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if I'm not mistaken,
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on HBO Max.
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Now Lanterns,
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a little mixed.
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You know,
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a little mixed.
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I don't know what direction they're going there.
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Is this True Detective?
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Is this based off a Green Lantern run that I didn't read?
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I don't know.
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But I like Kyle Chandler.
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I like,
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aaron pierre i thought that was great casting as john stewart i i'm excited for it but i'm not like oh my god i can't wait you know i'm not pulling my hair out if i had any you know in anticipation for uh lanterns uh but it does look interesting looks like it's a different direction that uh
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a different take a different look um we'll see a different tone that's what i was trying to
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find the word i was trying to find a different tone from anything else that we've seen from the dc universe so that's interesting and and that's one of the things i like about the dc studios uh a new little reboot thing that
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so far everything feels different even though we're in the same universe you know superman looks happy and bubbly you know it's superman Dude.
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It's all colorful and gorgeous looking.
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And then you go to...
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peacemaker that just looks realistic you know but in as far as the look i'm not talking about the tone of it uh but you go to supergirl supergirl is is pretty dark not as dark as i felt it should have went it based on the source material but it's a dark story um
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and lanterns looks like it's going to be kind of dark uh kind of a rated r uh
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feel to it you know a true detective feel to it and clay face is a rated r horror film so these are all different kind of tones and genres that is a part of this bigger universe and i appreciate that and that's one of my knocks with marvel and i hate to keep bringing them back into the fold but that's the only comparisons i could use when
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we talk about dc and marvel but marvel marvel has
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pretty much the same tone throughout.
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You know,
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every now and then they'll kind of deviate a little bit.
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Like when you get to
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Captain America Winter Soldier,
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you know,
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it goes a little darker with the spy thriller element of it all.
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You know,
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Black Panther had a different feel to it,
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of course.
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Outside of that,
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everything else just feels comic book-y.
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And that's fine for that brand,
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you know,
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but for...
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DC is different,
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especially if you're a fan of the comics.
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You know,
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it's different.
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You know,
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you pick up a Flash comic and then read a Batman comic,
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it is a vastly different tone.
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You know,
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a Superman comic versus a Wonder Woman comic,
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they're vastly different in tone.
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And that's how the films should feel as well.
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And so,
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for that...
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good on dc but i don't think that the audience is all ready for it with that being said it is dc studios in trouble it's too early to tell it's it's too early to sit back and say they're in trouble that james gunn is going to get fired you know they're only two movies in it
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is very early yet but i will say this i will say this if man of tomorrow comes out
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next year and it crash and burn like supergirl or god forbid is not more successful than superman then he's in trouble didn't they're in trouble at that point because the
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studio isn't flipping a profit at that point you you you're you're basically breaking even i think superman broke even maybe I'm sorry.
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maybe made a little bit of a profit but not by much uh of course we i just told you supergirl didn't loss whatever profit they made from superman is gone because of supergirl and we'll see with clay phase i think clay phase will make a profit because it's a low budget it's like i think they spent 30 40 million to make that movie and so it's gonna make a profit
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Now, man of tomorrow?
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Man,
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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That's all I can say.
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It's too early to tell.
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We haven't seen anything.
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I've seen some set photos and a little set video.
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Somebody snuck and recorded
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Superman beating up Lex Luthor in that kryptonite suit or that power suit that
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Lex Luthor is wearing.
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And so other than that,
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I don't know what to expect from
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Man of Tomorrow,
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you know,
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Brainiac.
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is the villain i mean that's new we're finally going to get to see brainiac in live action that's that's interesting it's all going to come down to that first trailer we'll see when that first trailer for man of tomorrow comes out whenever it does uh
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probably around christmas or first of next year sometime uh when whenever we see it but i i Yeah.
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The reactions of that,
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we'll know after the reactions of that.
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That will check the temperature.
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If nobody's excited about that trailer,
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they're in trouble.
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You know that the movie is not going to do good.
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But if some way they can conjure up some level of excitement for that movie between now and its release,
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they got a chance.
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as it stands right now the way the way it is no it doesn't look good and
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the fact that they deviated from their initial plan going back to that video that james gunn released when he was first brought on that he had this 10-year plan he really uh uh not released but named some of the movies the
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authority that authority film looks like that's not gonna happen the uh waller series about amanda waller doesn't look like that's gonna happen um
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Of course,
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Batman,
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Brave and Bold,
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that's to be determined.
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We don't know what's happening with that.
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The
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Paradise Lost series that was set in Themyscira,
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you know,
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Wonder Woman's home world,
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but not with Wonder Woman in it.
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But that is kind of,
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we haven't heard anything about that.
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The Booster Gold
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HBO Max series,
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haven't heard nothing about that.
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The Swamp.
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thing movie haven't heard nothing about that is you announce these projects and nothing has happened but all we've been focused on is is basically the super family is not the dc universe is more of the superman universe at this point we've gotten two superman movies or super family movies i'm sorry with superman and supergirl and
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then the next movie we get is man of tomorrow with superman
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you know it's all superman there's no wonder woman now uh allegedly at the time of this recording it hasn't been confirmed but there's no wonder woman or there's supposed to be wonder woman in man of tomorrow to
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be honest with you the more i hear the rumors that i hear about that movie it sounds like baby justice league rather than man of tomorrow because john stewart is in it
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you know green lantern from from the lantern series he's in it supergirl's in it superman's in it lex luther's in it uh uh wonder woman is allegedly in it even though some are saying it's maxima not wonder woman uh okay
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um mr terrific is returning and he needed to because he was the best thing to come out of Superman.
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Guy Garner is coming back in it.
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Hawkgirl is coming back in it.
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It's all,
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it's Baby Justice League.
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Just no Batman.
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No Batman.
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Another thing,
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going back to the Maxima thing.
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And now a lot of people don't even know who that is.
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And I can understand.
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And I'm a DC nut.
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And I barely know who she is.
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I know of her.
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She's similar to Wonder Woman,
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but she's not Wonder Woman.
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you know but why why focus on these and see james gunn got this thing about focusing on these bc level characters you know uh just look at the uh suicide
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squad movie just look at guardians of the galaxy all these he has a factionation with these lower tier characters you know creature commandos and things like that.
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That's his niche.
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He really,
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he loves them.
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And I don't have a problem with that because they all need their moments to shine.
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I get all that.
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But putting them in the starring role,
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you know,
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making a big deal of them is not very smart business because not too many people know about.
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For instance,
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Supergirl.
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Not too many people really know about Supergirl like that.
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And you gave us a Supergirl movie where there's no...
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backstory uh well i say that there's backstory in it i don't want to spoil supergirl because it's still it just came out but there's backstory but it's not an origin story and a lot of people not digging
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that you know now granted there's there's a lot of misogyny involved in that there's a lot of men who don't want to see a woman be a superhero or
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be the most powerful being type thing you know those those insecure men and that's that caused for a lot of the backlash against this movie too if you read some of the reviews i'm not just making that up but i'd
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say all that to say if you're going to kick off a new universe you need it to start with superman batman and wonder woman that's your trinity that's
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That's the holy trinity of the DC universe.
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If you don't start off with that,
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you're in trouble.
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because you you're asking the true blue hardcore comic book lovers to come out and support this movie or movies and honestly it's not too many it's not too many of
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those who love the the lower tier characters the majority of people are main characters you know they're into the
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batmans the spider-mans the x-men the uh the supermans the wonder woman you know that who knows who maxima is i'm pretty sure i lost a lot of you when i mentioned that name like who is that and
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you probably gotta look her up and i get it i had to when they first announced it you know it in is all speculation and rumor but the majority of people saying that's a diversion
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She, uh...
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the actress was actually cast as wonder woman they just don't want to announce it but that's besides the point i i had to be reminded of who maxima was and i'm like why introduce her in this movie you know if that's true that
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makes no sense at this point you're just entertaining yourself james gunn you're not entertaining everybody else everybody don't don't
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don't want to see that you know they want to see the main characters you know we want to see this story eventually lead up to a justice league movie and the way it's looking now i'll probably be in my 80s before we ever see a justice league movie with this cast with this story that's being told but
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that that's besides the point anywho but my last point i wanted to share before i get up out to hear about DC.
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is
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DC
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DC problem uh as far as James
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Gunn is concerned
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I don't think a lot of directors or writers will want to come on board and do something in this universe because the vision is already laid out you give it up say it's already
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James Gunn's vision is not yours see I can't come in there if I was a director
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I couldn't come in there and say,
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man,
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I want to make a Batman film.
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But what I want to do,
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I want to base it on
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Batman Hush.
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Or I want to base it on Batman The Long Halloween.
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Well,
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that doesn't fit.
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James Gunn is going to be like,
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well,
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that doesn't fit into the vision.
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You know,
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because we got the brave and the bold.
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And Damien is his
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Robin. And we're moving forward with that.
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That'll be going back.
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And we'll have to explain why this and that.
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So it doesn't fit.
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That's not my vision.
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And it isn't it.
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So we wouldn't work.
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So you got to bring in a director that basically is there in namesake only because James Gunn is going to tell you how this is how this is how it's going to go.
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This is how it's laid out.
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I already got the writers already got the script.
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You all you got to do is go in and shoot it.
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You know what?
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This isn't what I wanted to shoot.
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You know,
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so it's all.
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James Gunn is just him,
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you know,
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and that's the problem.
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That's the issue.
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And unfortunately,
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if that's the route they're going to go with it,
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it's not going to be successful,
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you know.
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Now,
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well,
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let me take that back.
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I'm not going to say it's not going to be successful,
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but you're not going to get other voices in the room,
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and you need other voices in the room.
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Kevin Feige.
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He is not a director,
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he isn't a writer,
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he's a producer.
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And so,
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he brings in a writer-director such as Ryan Coogler.
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He'll bring in a writer-director such as
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Josh Whedon.
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He'll bring in a writer-director team as the Russo brothers and all them.
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And they push their vision forward with these characters.
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And they'll just come together in one cohesive movie.
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mashed up and do their thing with the avengers film whereas with this it's just it's just james gunn telling his story and i think that's what supergirl suffered from this past weekend yeah craig
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galepsi he directed the film but this didn't feel like a craig galepsi film because he never did a film like this before this big before you know he made itania he made uh corella
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you know he made uh what was the other one i liked uh lars and the real girl nothing on the level of a supergirl you know and so he never made a movie like this before so i would assume he had to lean a lot on james gunn and ask his opinion but
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james gunn at that time he's developing this man of tomorrow film so he got that going on he's helping him out which goes back to my initial point he's stretched too thin but it was more of a james gunn type feel it just felt like craig galepsi was
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trying to emulate james gunn it didn't feel like a james gunn movie because technically it wasn't but at the same time if
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felt like james gunn had his hand in a lot of the making of that movie even though he didn't write it but it either but it still felt like elements of it was james gunn and and that's going to be an issue with
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this universe moving forward i i look i'm hesitant to say that this studio is in trouble that the
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DCU is in trouble.
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I don't want to believe that.
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Because all that would tell me is that
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James Gunn,
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Peter Safran would probably be let go,
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especially with this new acquisition with
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Paramount buying
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Warner Brothers along with DC.
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So there's a possibility that they could be shown the door.
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There's a possibility that we have to start all over again.
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and that's the part that's killing me why we gotta do this again with dc why can't we get this right it is infuriating man the mere thought of that that
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we gotta go through this again recasting superman recasting batman well we ain't even cast batman yet but you know going through all that
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re-establishing a universe you know all this other it's just oh my god do i really want to go through this again with with my favorite out of all of them man i i love love
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dc i love comic books as a whole i love marvel but dc is my bag you know that's that's those are some of of first comics I read.
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before i really got deep into comics you know spreading my wings and going over to marvel and uh other uh publications but dc is where it started with me and i fell in love with those characters and i'm still in love with them today and i think if they're done right on screen it would be phenomenal
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it would blow everything out the water as far as comic book movies are concerned but i think there's Ugh.
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as far as DC is concerned,
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they squandered their opportunity.
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I said this years ago,
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me and me and my friends were talking and this is when cinematic universe start really kicking into high gear with,
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Marvel and whatnot.
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And I was like,
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man,
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this is the time
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DC needs to step it up.
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Cause unlike Marvel,
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which before they inquired,
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all of their properties back,
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they still don't have Spider-Man.
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technically they're sharing spider-man with sony but aside from that they own everybody else and i think i think the hulk too i think they're borrowing the hulk but that's that's it doesn't matter they
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didn't have all they care they didn't have their main ones they didn't have them they didn't have x-men they didn't have fantastic four they didn't have uh uh spider-man you know they didn't have access to all that.
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They didn't have it.
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And
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DC had all dares.
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DC was never in a position that Marvel was.
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And DC played around for decades and couldn't get it right.
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And now we're at a point in time where it looks like it's not going to happen.
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It's just not going to happen.
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Marvel is going to leave him in the dust because as much as Marvel is struggling,
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I think once we get past doomsday which
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I know this is going to be a hot take but
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I don't think doomsday is going to do that good
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I'm sorry to tell everybody it just doesn't feel like doomsday even though I haven't seen that one eye older other than those little snippets that they released earlier this year uh
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I don't know any I don't
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I don't think it's gonna hit because well that's a whole nother story.
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But anyway,
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but once
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X-Men get into the picture,
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once they start rolling X-Men going into that mutant saga,
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they're going to pick it back up.
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I think Marvel is going to be back firing on all cylinders,
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and
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DC is really,
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really going to have to have their crap together.
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I hope they do by then.
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But those are my thoughts.
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It's too early to say that DC is in trouble.
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I don't think they're in trouble,
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but they need to wake up.
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I'll say that much.
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They need to get their crap together.
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especially with man man of tomorrow if man of tomorrow doesn't deliver then we can revisit this conversation and i will have a completely different answer but i want to know what do you think about dc uh what did you think of supergirl do you think that is over or
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did you think it was over after superman because i know a lot of people just checked out after superman they were like this isn't this isn't the superman i wanted to see and i can respect that
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You know,
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a lot of people fell in love with Henry Cavill as Superman,
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and this was a vastly different
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Superman than Henry Cavill,
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and I get that too.
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And so
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I want to know your thoughts,
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man.
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Clayface will revive this universe?
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