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"Opinion is NOT Dominion" (Friday September 12, 2025, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 5: Thank you for letting me be of service to you
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this morning, breaking down the news for you, so it's
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in a nice, easily digestible gummies. Jen Jelenik from Epic Times, managing.
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Speaker 6: Editor and host of their video show, was on with.
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Speaker 5: Us and coming back talk a little bit about I
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think the horse in the room, which is political assassination.
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Speaker 7: And y Kirk kind of epitomized the type of person
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who didn't actually want to use violency, what was ready
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to go and talk to anybody of any viewpoint and
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kind of challenge them to a thoughtful discourse. So there's
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this particular, weird, horrible irony that that it's precisely this person,
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this person that actually gets murdered.
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Speaker 6: Is it irony? I've had friends compared.
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Speaker 5: Societally anyway to King's assassination because he was somebody who
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didn't want violence, and that he was trying to heal
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the divisions in our society, not exacerbate them, and was
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being blamed by a lot of folks for exacerbatum. And
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I certainly not conflating how conservatives are treated to the
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Jim Crow laws of the sixties, but in a very
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thinly sliced abstract, John, what do you think of that?
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Speaker 7: Well, I can tell you the comparison, and actually did
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strike me when I was thinking about last night, but
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mainly because I do think he represented a peaceful route.
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Remember in our in our societies, you know, there is
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this broader culture war happening, right and I think I
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think most people would agree to that. And there's different solutions.
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People are advocating different approaches, and people are advocating very
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extreme approaches, even even you know, in in in response
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to what happened and and other people, he was always arguing, well,
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this is the this is the point, okay. We have
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to be able to talk to each other, right, even
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if we have dramatically different viewpoints, and if we're not,
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if that opportunity breaks down somehow, and I think that
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the force, the kind of the very far left forces
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in the world that I'm talking you know riginally is
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going to come on the show to talk about communists China,
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right and and and and very very far left forces
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also embedded in America. Those exist as well. They're they're purpose, right,
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isn't Their purpose is actually to tear apart the fabric
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of society left and right, right, to make that conversation impossible.
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And that's when we start fighting each other and that
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verre society, like actually physically, whether it's with you know,
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weapons or whatever. And that's when you know, basically, this
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whole beautiful experiment, which you know, basically ultimately sparked a
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lot of the democracy around the world, fails And I
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think that I think, so there's there's this and this
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is what King believed in right, that that the route,
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the solution, despite the horrible, obvious, horrible treatment of black Americans,
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the solution was a peaceful one.
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Speaker 5: And actually the example of being peaceful in the face
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of violence, I think it was important. Chan it is
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the Epoch Times dot Com, thank you sir for that
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is I forget our first things out EUROPEHO can't really
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discuss the news until you tell people what.
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Speaker 6: The news is.
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Speaker 5: Clay Higgins, Congressman from Louisiana said yesterday that he push
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to bar social media users for life if they celebrate
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the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who is fatally shot obviously
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Wednesday while speaking at Utah Valley University. Meanwhile, his body
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was transported on Air Force two in the company of
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Vice President j. D. Vance and his wife Usha, and
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this has raised controversy on the internet, asking if this
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was an appropriate use of taxpayer money. President Trump urged supporters,
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as we were just discussing to respond peacefully to the
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killing of Charlie Kirk. The murderer continues to be at large,
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though reports now out of Utah that they have discovered
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a rifle and that there are some connections to several
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folks who ironically have interacted with Charlie at some of
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his campus visits previously in Orum, Utah. The FBI is
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asking for your help if you can and identifying the assassin.
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One hundred thousand dollars bounty is now being offered, and
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they have a toll free line one eight hundred call FBI.
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Speaker 5: From the news, I want to get into something that Jellinck,
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Jan Jellinick told us. It triggered me in a thought.
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Opinion is not the same thing as dominion, and I
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think it may be Your results may vary, and I'd
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like your consult on this. It may be the root
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of all evil as far as the American society goes
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that And it was an experience I had, ironically on
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the fifth anniversary of the September eleventh attacks that feeds
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this idea that we're living in a world where opinion
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and dominion have become conflated. There But I want to
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Speaker 6: Thank you for dialing in. Clark. How are you doing, sir?
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Speaker 25: I'm pretty good. Opinion and dominion, well on the left,
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their opinion must have dominion.
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Speaker 6: It seems like the.
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Speaker 25: Now earlier you said that the hosts on the View
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were more likely to feel whereas you didn't feel. You thought,
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and therein lies, if not the at least a principal
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difference between left and right, we think they feel. Yeah,
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now let's put that off to the side. When I'm
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assessing a situation, I like to prioritize and what's going
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to kill my patient?
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Speaker 7: First?
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Speaker 6: What's the biggest threat? Okay? Can we address that?
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Speaker 25: And then we go in descending order, so threat assessment
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and then address the threats in order. Now your guest
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at the top of the hour, and I apologize Vaughn.
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Somebody I was treating.
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Speaker 6: The one, Jean jell Nick.
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Speaker 25: He said he fuck times, he said. Charlie Kirk did
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not advocate violence, but came with thoughtful discourse.
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Speaker 6: I think you've.
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Speaker 25: Got the entire motivation for his murder in those three things.
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Speaker 5: Joe, hold on, you know, and I will confess I
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do agree with you. But I'm going to play the
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Devil's advocate for a second. Terrific movie, by the way,
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even though I can't stand you know, most of the
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actors in it their politics. But it's a good movie
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and a good concept. But playing the Devil's advocate for
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a second, aren't they aren't the folks like the Dangle
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Farrenthorpe's of the world out there telling us we have
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to have open mind societies and we need to teach
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you that. I was inundated with this after the riots
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in my flagship city of Charlottesville of twenty seventeen, the
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national you know, check up from the neckup brigade came
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to Charlottesville to use us as the lab rats to
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teach us how to be open minded. And here's what
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I can best I can tell. And there's apocryphal internet
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chatter about the shooter naming names, but he was somebody
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who actually interacted with Charlie at a debate last year
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in or in Utah, and Charlie actually said to him,
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you're right about the the He had asked him about
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something or another regarding something good Kamala Harris had done,
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was well no, and.
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Speaker 6: That was it. But I mean, he was treated.
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Speaker 5: If it is the same guy that they're saying on
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the interwebs, this is a guy that Charlie actually interacted
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with at one of these events and treated with the
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utmost respect. And I don't know what knocked his last
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good marble out of his hand.
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Speaker 25: So all right, open minded, let's address that for just
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a second.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 25: I said, they don't think, and that's not entirely true, Joe,
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But it's group think.
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Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, All the thinking.
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Speaker 25: Going on on the left is group think. Now, let's
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keep an open mind.
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Speaker 6: Yes, those people.
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Speaker 25: Would have you received some kind of mental health assistance
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if you were not in line with the group think.
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So open mind is fine as long as you're in
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We needed to come together.
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Speaker 7: You know, we don't.
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Speaker 25: It's the same thing. We're here and now they attack
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and then we need to come together. We need to
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do this, We need to do that, Joe, I have
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Speaker 1: Question first Thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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Joe Thomas, the second most famous Thomas and Charlottes.
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Speaker 29: I know.
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Speaker 4: Not to put down.
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Speaker 2: What we've got to get signed for the Chisel.
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Speaker 6: So how does this all tie?
28:46
Speaker 1: Joe?
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Speaker 5: To September eleventh, Doctor Clark, you were talking about reconciliation
28:54
before we went to news.
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Speaker 25: We are not reconcilable, Joe, and neither do I want
28:59
to be reconciled with those people.
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Speaker 5: Well, here's here's the thing. Because they want to make
29:04
you think like they do. And and that's what I
29:08
mean about opinion being conflated with dominion. They want your
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opinion to be their opinion. They want you to not
29:15
be open minded, but vacant minded. They and there's a
29:19
big difference. And so what you're sensing is this idea
29:24
that we we want you to be willing to accept
29:27
our thoughts and and that's their definition of open mindedness.
29:33
And and that's that's what is being used to tear
29:38
us apart. Is this idea that if you disagree with me,
29:42
if I allow you to disagree with me, it's the
29:46
same thing as agreeing with them. And that's where I'm
29:48
going with this, this opinion and dominion thing, Clark uh
29:52
and it involves the Westboro Baptist Church. You ever hear
29:55
of the Westborough Baptist Church.
29:56
Speaker 6: Doctor Clark.
29:59
Speaker 25: Wors Baptist put it on Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Yeah.
30:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, the memory bank is opening and we uh so yeah,
30:09
and this is this is part of the parable. But
30:13
I'll get into it here in a second. You have
30:15
a great morning, sir, and enjoy your weekend.
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Speaker 25: You do the same job.
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Speaker 5: So September eleventh, two thousand and six, the first notable anniversary,
30:29
the landmark, you know, obviously the one year anniversary, but
30:32
then the fifth anniversary, plans had already been made for
30:37
Flight ninety three.
30:38
Speaker 6: I was working.
30:39
Speaker 5: I was doing talk radio at Pennsylvania Station, so there
30:44
was already the locality of the fact that on September eleventh,
30:50
two thousand and six, I wanted to be in Shanksville,
30:53
even though it was nowhere near where my radio station
30:55
was being broadcast. I wanted to be there because I
30:59
also felt, in the five years since the terrorist attacks
31:03
that this story of Flight ninety three was a uniquely
31:06
American story, civilians not just seeing something and saying something,
31:12
but seeing something and doing something, like the farmers and
31:18
the blacksmiths who picked up arms against the occupying Redcoats,
31:25
or the auto workers and the farmers and the newspaper
31:29
delivery boys who picked up a rifle and headed to
31:33
France and then all the way to Berlin. So we
31:41
pack up the radio show, and I wasn't as good
31:43
as you know. I think I'm pretty good at going
31:47
on location our week in New Orleans, for example, just
31:51
past the State Policy Network and that kind of thing.
31:54
And we're now going to be in January in lost
31:58
Wages for the consumer like tronic show. But this was
32:01
a challenging broadcast because there was no building. We were
32:05
going to be standing in a field. The State park people,
32:10
the National Park Service had brought in phone lines and
32:14
not electric service so much, but they brought in phone
32:17
lines for everyone to use to send their programs back
32:20
to their home studios. And there I was little radio
32:24
station from Chester County, Pennsylvania.
32:27
Speaker 6: Oh did we ever call w CH in Chester County?
32:34
They should be carrying the show packed there.
32:36
Speaker 5: But anyway, so the little radio station from suburban Philadelphia
32:40
in between CNN's mobile satellite truck and NBC's President Bush's coming.
32:46
Rick Santorum, who is now it's proud for me to say,
32:48
is my compatriot partner in the efforts to get the
32:53
Convention of States ratified. And we'll be doing a Convention
32:57
of States event on Saturday here in our flagship city
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of Charlottesville at first free in the morning coffee if
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you're available Saturday morning at ten, they'll be cake. Not
33:08
for Marie Antoinette fans. But here we are, September eleventh,
33:13
two thousand and six, in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, in a field,
33:18
dressed very nicely, your humble host and Rick Santorum doing
33:24
radio from the fifth anniversary of September eleventh, my wife
33:30
and children out in the parking lot. I think my son,
33:34
my oldest son is ten at the time, and in
33:39
the parking lot where there's wonderful I don't know if
33:42
they've saved it, but there was a chain link fence
33:45
that used to be around the parking lot at the
33:50
Shanksville site that had become this ad hoc memorial. People
33:56
were just tying things to this, and in two thousand
33:59
and two, in two thousand and three, this was an
34:02
unheard of kind of thing, just tying things to fences
34:04
and stuff like that memorials.
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Speaker 6: It was beautiful.
34:07
Speaker 5: My wife and kids were out in the parking lot
34:10
looking at that when they were confronted by the Westboro
34:13
Baptists who were there protesting. The Westboro Baptists said to
34:20
my wife and my children, you are all going to hell.
34:25
Oh ten and seven and a three year old. It's
34:29
a pretty damning thing to say to them, you are
34:31
going to hell. You are irredeemable because your father supports
34:38
a president, George W. Bush, that allows people to be
34:43
gay quote unquote. My wife's told me the story many times.
34:47
She was just like, what the beep is going on,
34:53
and they were marching and protesting, and they kept telling
34:56
my family that they were all going to hell because
34:58
they they support me, and I supported a president that
35:02
allowed people to be gay opinion versus dominion. Whether I
35:09
agreed with them or not, whether I agreed or not,
35:11
whether homosexuality was a sin or not, was regardless to
35:16
them that I supported George W. Bush, who didn't round
35:23
up all the gays and put them in jail like
35:25
Mahmud Ahmadinijad and the folks that suborned the very terrorist
35:30
attacks that they were protesting us over seemed to be
35:35
an irony lost.
35:36
Speaker 6: On the Westboro Baptists.
35:42
Speaker 5: But this is where we still are. If it's not this,
35:46
just that whether you disagree with me or not part
35:50
of the And there were people who thought Charlie was
35:53
weak because he allowed people to.
35:55
Speaker 30: Get up there and say, I think Joe Biden's great
35:58
because he's the adult Dan and he and then he
36:01
would debate the point and the and the people who
36:04
didn't like what Charlie Kirk was doing with turning Point
36:08
USA was the fact that he was allowing these people
36:13
to have a say, he was normalizing their ridiculous thoughts
36:20
about Marxism.
36:21
Speaker 5: He was by by debating the point, by not just
36:24
saying you're an idiot, get off my phone. He was
36:33
assailed by people who said that if you allow people
36:37
to even believe that Marxism is a good idea, that
36:40
you yourself are a Marxist, does.
36:43
Speaker 6: That make sense to you? Do you agree?
36:44
Speaker 5: And I might be costing myself listeners. I might not
36:47
be here come Monday because the network says, pull the
36:50
plug on the guy. But I can only tell you
36:57
the truth. What I believe is I believe, and.
37:00
Speaker 6: I share it with you. I think eloquently. But if
37:04
you believe something different, that's fine.
37:09
Speaker 5: I believe my faith tells me that your sins are
37:12
your sins, and my sins are my sins. And when
37:14
I meet Saint Peter and he opens my ledger, who
37:19
I voted for isn't going to be in there. If
37:25
I allowed somebody to believe in Marxism, isn't going to
37:29
be on my ledger. Did I do everything I can
37:32
to uplift my neighbors and to be that good steward
37:36
to my parents, to my kids, And yeah, That's what
37:39
I'm going to be judged on, not whether or not
37:42
I allowed somebody to believe that Marxism exists and is
37:49
a good idea, which I don't think it is. But
37:52
you see what I just had to do there.
37:54
Speaker 6: I had to put a warning label that I said it,
37:59
but that doesn't mean I agree with it.
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Speaker 5: Radio the oldest of mass media, the cold media. It's
45:09
opposed to the hot media of television, thank you, Marshall mccluan.
45:14
The cockroaches of media, says Joe Thomas of the Talk
45:18
Media Network.
45:19
Speaker 6: Because every time.
45:20
Speaker 5: Some incendiary device devastates all the other legacy media, radio
45:26
just keeps going along, says more of us than there
45:29
ever were. And we're making money and we don't. We
45:33
sit here and wonder why is it the TV and
45:36
newspapers don't so much. And Charlie Kirk, as part of
45:41
the story, grew exponentially as he grasped not just the
45:46
podcast world but the radio world. And I wanted to
45:51
explore a little of that with a friend of mine
45:55
in a second. But let me Michael Harrison of Tnker's
45:59
Magazine will give us a thought on that. But first
46:02
let we get to you at four three four eight
46:04
eight two four two one seven.
46:06
Speaker 6: Who's this.
46:08
Speaker 4: Morning show?
46:09
Speaker 1: It's Mike.
46:10
Speaker 5: It's Mike Radio. We were talking about you this morning.
46:13
I don't know if you heard, or if your ears
46:14
were buzzing or not.
46:18
Speaker 7: Uh No, I did not hear, but I'm not surprised.
46:22
Speaker 4: I think them.
46:25
Speaker 6: Nop. There he goes.
46:26
Speaker 5: He lives in an area where the the the administrators
46:30
of his neighborhood don't like cell phone towers. Just so
46:33
you know, if Mike drops out at any given point
46:36
there we were talking about actually Roll Doll and Mike
46:39
TV and how kids, if they're just left to gobble
46:43
up whatever they see on the Internet or television, are
46:45
going to turn out to be the kind of dark
46:47
souls that are depicted on there. But anyway, what's on
46:50
your mind, sir, Mike. It's like the it's like the
46:59
TV with the Campbell. Hey, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, what.
47:04
Speaker 4: Day is it?
47:07
Speaker 27: So?
47:07
Speaker 16: So?
47:08
Speaker 5: What they do when I speak of his administrators in
47:11
his community, his his representatives hate cell phone service so
47:15
much that they tear down cell phone towers and then
47:19
complain when they're radio all but they'll they want government
47:22
US government funded internet broadband for you all as well.
47:28
Speaker 6: Mike, are you there? I just I don't think I
47:32
think he is.
47:33
Speaker 5: He has hit a terminal mass and uh, you know,
47:41
gone gone forever from us on this Friday morning, first
47:45
thing today. And I know it is seemingly for those
47:50
who talk about influencers and turning point us A certainly
47:55
is the most seminal part of Charlie Kirk's legacy. But
48:00
he had become quite a successful talk radio show host,
48:04
tutelage of the folks at Salem Radio Network, you know,
48:09
and his natural abilities, and it was my honor to be,
48:14
you know, an early option for his As a matter
48:18
of fact, he was coming to one of the stations
48:19
I put him on in Blacksburg, scheduled for September twenty
48:24
fourth on his tour. Had his night his night not
48:27
been cut short by a sniper's bullet. And you know,
48:30
one of the folks who you know, whether it's talk radio,
48:36
the Broadway play or the movie or the Fisher King,
48:42
a man who has seen all the depictions of what
48:45
talk radio can do to a person who's not particularly holding.
48:49
Speaker 6: On to his last good marble very strongly?
48:52
Speaker 5: Is Michael Harrison of Talkers Magazine a guru yoda if
48:57
you will, And that's not a height reference of those
49:01
of us who do what we do.
49:02
Speaker 6: And I know a good friend of Charlie's.
49:04
Speaker 5: And as a matter of fact, if you go to
49:05
talkers dot com, there's a wonderful sit down the Michael
49:10
Harrison Interviews. He has a sit down with Charlie Kirk
49:15
from Michael is on was Michael, thank you sir?
49:19
Speaker 6: And was that twenty sixteen you did that interview with Charlie.
49:23
Speaker 33: Actually the interview was a little newer than that. We
49:26
did the interview on October tenth, twenty twenty, about a
49:30
day or two after he began his career as a
49:34
full time talk show host on the Salem Radio Network.
49:38
So he had just gotten that job. He had done
49:41
some talk radio as a fill in, and he certainly
49:43
was a guest, but he had just begun his gig,
49:46
so to speak, as a talk show host. So it
49:48
was five years ago and he was twenty six years old.
49:52
I was, of course one hundred and six by then,
49:55
and I found myself, you know, twenty six is a
50:00
grown man, but when you've been around the planet, around
50:03
the sun as many times as I have, he's a kid.
50:05
And I found myself amazed at how articulate and intelligent
50:10
he was, because we didn't know that much about him
50:13
five years ago. His career has been sort of a
50:16
phenomenon since then, even though he had already started us,
50:20
you know, Turning Point USA, and had made his mark
50:24
on the internet. Well and pretty amazing guy.
50:28
Speaker 6: His mark is his mark.
50:30
Speaker 5: And you know what I found is after convincing my
50:33
employers at the time to put his show on when
50:37
we lost the Great Rush Limbaugh at noon, and it
50:41
was when I got to meet him for the first time.
50:43
I said, this guy is as easy going as I
50:46
would like to think I am. He's not you know,
50:49
going through notes or saying, oh, no, we don't want
50:51
to talk about this, here are the things we want
50:53
to talk about, and all very organized. No, he was
50:56
just like, hey, you know, whatever you want to ask
50:58
me about, let's let's talk Thomas Everson. If you want,
51:00
let's talk the enlightenment, you know, biochemistry, whatever is on
51:05
your mind.
51:06
Speaker 6: And he just seemed comfortable in his skin.
51:10
Speaker 5: Does that make sense to an old hippie FM jock
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like you and me, Michael, He seemed comfortable in his skin.
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 27: And he was.
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Speaker 33: And he really developed the process of taking on all commerce. Yeah,
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in terms of putting himself in the middle of a
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crowd and almost always a hostile crowd, and debating anybody
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who wants to throw a question at him or or
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tangle with him.
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Speaker 4: And he did it.
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Speaker 33: He did it with a certain calm, degree of humor,
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certainly sold his points with intelligence. I want to point
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out at this point in our conversation, I don't necessarily
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agree with everything he said, but that's never been my role.
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Role is to protect the platform, to support the First Amendment,
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and to give information and support to the people who
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do the dangerous job of being a talk show host,
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which I've been saying for years is a dangerous job.
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And unfortunately that was proven true this past September tenth.
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Speaker 6: Michael.
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Speaker 5: You know, and we just had a speaking engagement yesterday
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for the September eleventh, and the folks at Americans for
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Prosperity wonderful there to have me and I've got another
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one on Saturday at First Free Coffee Bar, where we're
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going to be talking about the Constitution and Constitution Day
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with the Convention of States.
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Speaker 6: Folks.
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Speaker 5: That one's a little bit more public facing than the
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one we had with Americans for Prosperity.
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