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Elon Turns the Lights On at X, Hussey Smollett Caught in a Hoax | HBR News 528 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBr News Number five twenty eight. Elon turns
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  Speaker 1: the lights on at x Hussy Smollette Caught in a
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  Speaker 1: with all of that said, we're gonna get into today's stories.
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  Speaker 1: So first up, there was a cartoon that I saw online.
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  Speaker 1: I can find it right now, but it was very funny.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's SDK Cartoons, but I'm not sure that
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  Speaker 1: is the name of the artist about this, but I'll
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  Speaker 1: just have to display Elon Musk for now. So after
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  Speaker 1: a Twitter slash x developer alluded that an update in
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  Speaker 1: the near future would show the country of origin for
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  Speaker 1: all Twitter slash x accounts, were still undecided whether or
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  Speaker 1: not we're going to call it extra Twitter, the upside
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  Speaker 1: finally dropped or the update finally dropped as promised. The
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  Speaker 1: update allowed all to see where an account originated from,
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  Speaker 1: and one thing became shockingly clear. Many accounts turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be Indians masquerading as anything other than Indians. Pro
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  Speaker 1: conservative accounts, pro Democrat accounts, accounts claiming to belong to
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  Speaker 1: the IDF, and even accounts connected to the Manisphere were
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  Speaker 1: shown to be operated by Indians or similar foreign influences.
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  Speaker 1: Nikita Pierre, Twitter's x head of product reports that after
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  Speaker 1: the update, this location information is ninety nine percent accurate,
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  Speaker 1: and some of these accounts have tens or even hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of thousands of followers, leading some to suspect that they
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  Speaker 1: exist to engagement farm and help funnel money to their
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  Speaker 1: foreign operators. Because remember when Elon Musk made it to
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  Speaker 1: where Twitter could be monetized, which means if your posts
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  Speaker 1: get enough engagement, you could make a little money, and
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  Speaker 1: that means that there were definitely like opportunities that were
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  Speaker 1: being seized by some people who were basically engagement farming.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, so so yeah, so some of these accounts
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  Speaker 1: have tens or even one hundreds of thousand of followers,
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  Speaker 1: leading some to suspect that they exist to engagement farm
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  Speaker 1: and help funnel money to their foreign operators. Darren Linnell
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  Speaker 1: of Clemson University, who specializes in media forensics, states, quote,
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  Speaker 1: there are accounts that are run by troll farms that
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  Speaker 1: are run by nation states, and then there are accounts
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  Speaker 1: that are just trying to make a buck by pretending
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  Speaker 1: to be American. There's always some money to be made
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  Speaker 1: from fanning America's culture wars on social media. He also
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  Speaker 1: predicts that their exposure will do little to stop them,
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  Speaker 1: stating quote, bad actors will very likely quickly adapt. They
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  Speaker 1: can round it by VPN. They'll adopt the way that
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  Speaker 1: they're creating their accounts, so it appears they created their
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  Speaker 1: account in the West or in the United States end quote.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier this year, it was estimated that over four hundred
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  Speaker 1: million Indians use VPNs, making India the number one country
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  Speaker 1: and VPN adoption dwarfing China's VPN usage, which is about
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty million, so more than China, and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to add too. So if you're on X
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  Speaker 1: and you happen to cost any manisphere people posting just
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  Speaker 1: like how you usually a red flag as whether or
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  Speaker 1: not it's a it's a you know, engagement farming account
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  Speaker 1: is that it's got like a hyper masculine character and
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  Speaker 1: it's like super like over the top high testoss rowe posting.
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  Speaker 1: Be aware it's posing, but it's t posting. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: testosterone posting. That's usually how you know it's fake because
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  Speaker 1: like we all know the people on earth are the
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  Speaker 1: Indian men anyway.
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  Speaker 3: That's also there's there's another issue. There are dating coaches
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  Speaker 3: and pick up artists which are the same as day
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  Speaker 3: dating coaches that yeah, they stole the red pill meme
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  Speaker 3: from the red pill subreddit, which was actually more of
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  Speaker 3: a conservative m r A subreddit, and uh they they
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  Speaker 3: pretty much will claim to be the real m r as.
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  Speaker 3: Then also, don't assume that somebody is not a real
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  Speaker 3: m r A just because their account is based in India,
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  Speaker 3: because uh, Save Indian FA Family Foundation is a men's
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  Speaker 3: rights activist group in India that exists because India's domestic
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  Speaker 3: violence law is worse than a domestic violence laws in
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  Speaker 3: every western country. Feminism hit India like a dirty bomb,
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  Speaker 3: and it is just it's to the point where if
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  Speaker 3: a woman files against her husband under this law, she
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  Speaker 3: can file against his whole family. And there have been
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  Speaker 3: instances where infants who could not possibly have harassed anyone
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  Speaker 3: for any reason are are put in jail for a
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  Speaker 3: short period of time because they're named or because they're
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  Speaker 3: with a woman who was named in the filing. So
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  Speaker 3: just because something somebody is from India doesn't mean they're
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  Speaker 3: not an MRA, but you do definitely need to watch
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  Speaker 3: out for like the hyper the guys that respond to
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  Speaker 3: feminists anti ruggedness crusade by acting as though ruggedness is
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  Speaker 3: the only way to be a man.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you know somehow. We always knew that the
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  Speaker 2: dead Internet theory was inevitable, but we knew it would
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  Speaker 2: happen gradually. One day there will be more bots than
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  Speaker 2: human beings, if it hasn't happened already. But before that,
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  Speaker 2: it was predictable enough that there would be more scammers
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  Speaker 2: than sincere human beings one way or another. And if
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  Speaker 2: you know anything about scammers, you could have easily predicted
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  Speaker 2: where they would come from. India and Nigeria. Yes, but
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  Speaker 2: you can trace this evolution through other graphs like India
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  Speaker 2: has Bollywood, Nigeria has Nollywood, and these industries are both
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  Speaker 2: modeled after Hollywood, which itself has been using it's fictitious
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  Speaker 2: siren songs to lure people onto the rocks for over
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  Speaker 2: a century now, as they convolutedly play the role of
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  Speaker 2: important political pioneers when all they were ever doing was
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  Speaker 2: following whatever trend will make them a buck or two.
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  Speaker 2: And in a way, you've got to respect the hustle.
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  Speaker 2: As they say, don't work hard, work smart. Why break
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  Speaker 2: your back going to a shitty job every day when
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  Speaker 2: you can just sit in front of a computer and
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  Speaker 2: fill some kind of narrative niche believe me, I'm not judging.
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  Speaker 2: Bless this world for giving us this opportunity to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: As long as they're not doing the do not redeem thing,
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  Speaker 2: As long as they're not cold calling all these technophobic
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  Speaker 2: boomers and lying to them in person and terrifying them
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  Speaker 2: into sending them thousands of dollars, that's at least a
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  Speaker 2: step in the right direction. The fuckers who do that
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  Speaker 2: should be strung the fuck up. Are not necessarily hanged
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  Speaker 2: or thrown into the woodchipper, just you know, strung up
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  Speaker 2: by their feet above the wood chipper, perhaps with a
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: flimsy rope. But yeah, they you know, they deserve severe punishment.
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  Speaker 2: They deserve to feel the terror through which they put
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  Speaker 2: innocent people. It's not just the digital equivalent of putting
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  Speaker 2: your hand in the till or pickpocketing someone. It's the
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  Speaker 2: digital equivalent of armed robbery. It's as close as you
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  Speaker 2: can get to it using a computer from six thousand
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  Speaker 2: miles away. So I'm glad that some of them have
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  Speaker 2: found a grift that's a lot less egregious than that shit.
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  Speaker 2: If you just want to pretend to be American to
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  Speaker 2: appeal to an American audience, that's, I mean, not quite fine,
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  Speaker 2: but it's pretty close to fine. If you're advocating for
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  Speaker 2: America First policies and you're criticizing the enemies of such policies,
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  Speaker 2: well the fuck is the problem. I do that too,
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  Speaker 2: and Americans send me money for my efforts, knowing full
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  Speaker 2: well that I'm not American. I mean, it is different
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter because you can hide your face and your accent.
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  Speaker 2: But where the hell did Twitter accounts get their money?
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Next to nobody pays people on Patreon or PayPal just
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: for their tweets. I mean, I'm sure there are shown some, surely,
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: but for the most part, they make their money from
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  Speaker 2: Twitter itself through engagement and only if they're really popular,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: and in order to get really proper they have to
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  Speaker 2: fight the good fight really hard on behalf of America.
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  Speaker 2: They only take these jobs from Americans if they do
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  Speaker 2: those jobs better than Americans, and they don't need h
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  Speaker 2: one beans to do it. I mean, for Fox, say,
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  Speaker 2: they're fighting in your corner and they're doing it without
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: occupying your streets and shitting in the mailboxes and sexually
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: harassing the teenagers. And as that's a win win, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: And as for the manisphere types, the Indians getting in
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: on the red pil scene and whatnot, well, yeah, Indians
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  Speaker 2: do that too. Like Hannah explained just now, there's a
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  Speaker 2: pretty prominent men's rights movement in India because they have
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: an out of control feminist problem, just like we have
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  Speaker 2: over here. So they go online and they give their
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: advice to men on how to deal with the whole debacle,
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: just like we do. A lot of them we just
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: assumed to be English or American because they're communicating in English.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: But they speak English, like two hundred million of them.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the official languages of India. So a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them aren't even pretending to be of the
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  Speaker 2: Anglish sphere. Then, even if they are, again, what's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: They're on our side. They're talking sense, at least they're
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: talking as much sense as we do. They they have
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: just as many over the top cringe lords as we
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: have in our in our own homegrown red pill community.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's like the meme, the haha, the jokes on you.
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  Speaker 2: I was just pretending to be retarded. It's ha ha,
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  Speaker 2: the jokes on you. I was just pretending to criticize feminism.
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  Speaker 2: I was just pretending to give a shit about men
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  Speaker 2: for money. Okay, Well that's the that's the damn sight
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: better than the people who pretend to give a shit
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  Speaker 2: about women for money. They're called feminists. They're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing it in our education system and our mass media,
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  Speaker 2: and our police forces and our fucking armed forces. Of
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  Speaker 2: this one, they are the ones destroying our civilization. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you very much much for joining us in the fight
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  Speaker 2: against them. Here have some fucking money from my own pocket.
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  Speaker 2: We're already forced to pay feminists with our taxes. We
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: might as well pay you to offset that shit in
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: whatever way you can. And if all you're doing is
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: getting engagement money from Twitter, from the engagement you pull in,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: once again, that's a win win. We're getting this service
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  Speaker 2: for free, especially if we're not paying Twitter eight dollars
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: a month, which I'm not. I'm just saying a lot
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: of people are overreacting with this as though being on
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Twitter and not being American is a gotcha by itself. Yeah, no,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: some of us never pretended to be American. We just
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: believe it or not. We don't hate your country. We're
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: actually we're quite fond of Americans, and we want you
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: to put yourselves first. Some of us think every nation
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: should put themselves first, because there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Of course, if there are accounts saying shit like, dear
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: fellow white people, we all need to shut the fuck
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  Speaker 2: up and listen to non white people and they turn
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: out to be non white's, that's a very different sorry,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that's literally a syop. Like if there are people saying,
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  Speaker 2: how do you do, fellow Americans, that we need to
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: support Israel and they turn out to be Israeli, by
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: all means, nail that shit to the wall. That's the
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: way you should be focusing your eye. Just as an example.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: And conversely, if like me, you frequently criticize Jews, and
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: you've frequently criticized Muslims, yet you get some muling dickhead
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: nagging at you as though you never criticize the Jews,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you now have an extra avenue to be able to
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: say nice. Try mohammered, I see you. I'm gonna keep
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: doing what I'm doing, and you're not going to tilt
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the ratio. You're all getting the same amount of bacon
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: thrown at you. So help meet God. And one more thing.
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  Speaker 2: In closing, this revelation is also an excellent development because
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: it means young impulsive men on our side are a
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: lot less likely to get catfished by fat grifters in
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the West pretending to be helpless desert girls in Qatar
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: or whatever. It could spare us a lot of hassle,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: might have even saved a few friendships over the years.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: But whatever, if you fail the naivety test, you get
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: what you fucking deserve. I hope one day you can
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: prove yourself redeemable when you crawl with your tail between
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: your legs back to those of us who have proved
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: ourselves to be real people. There will be vanishingly few
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of us as time marches on and the Internet becomes
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a graveyard of AI zombies.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Best of luck, everyone, Did y'all see that the Homeland
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Security account came up as Israel Israel?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I saw that. But then, like the woman who originally
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the woman who originally like called it. Nikita Bierre, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she said that that is incorrect. She corrected that record
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and that it's always been American. Let me see if
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I can find.
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  Speaker 3: The Yeah, and I'm sure were being told that, but
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: it did originally show.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I know, I heard that. I heard that. I'm not
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: saying I'm just.
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  Speaker 3: Saying that, I'm saying, yeah, it was. It's possible that
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: it was started by somebody that that was in Israel
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: at the time. Yeah, it is actually because.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so apparently there's a division.
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  Speaker 3: Only in security that actually does things in Israel, and
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: our cybersecurity guys are involved in that. And I can
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: just see some dumbass like higher up going, You're you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: like a nerdy, geeky guy, why don't you start the
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Twitter account? Yeah, but but it was kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Nikita Bierre said that location, she said, this
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: is fake news. Location is not available on any gray
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: check account at any point, so I guess there are
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: gray checks the government, but said furthermore, the DHS has
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: only shown ips in the United States since account creation.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: That's I don't mean know that she that's that's what
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: she said about it. So maybe she's lying, but she's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the one who originally broke the story as well, or
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: at least like talked about this, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she may have been intimidated into taking it back, but.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: It still Yeah, so there was actually a video. So
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: here's okay, So let me explain what happened. I'm want
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to show you guys. So this is an account by
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I Hypocrite, and you know, he's all about the Jews,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: like he's he loves talking about them, so he was
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: ready to jump on this, and he said the official
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: DHS account was revealed to have been created in Israel.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I saw screenshot of this, and I assume it as
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a joke, but apparently it's real and confirmed by Grock.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: The geolocating features were disabled shortly after going live, and
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  Speaker 1: he has like a video I'm gonna not play any
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of the audio of them like clicking on it, so
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you can see it right here. And then so we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: saw that and then here he said, it's also worth
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: noting that it was revealed to be operating out of
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Israel as well, and then he saw Keita Beer's response
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and says, Nikita Beer says it's fake news. I've also
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: seen a video from someone demonstrating how to fake. It
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: looks like I got tricked. Sorry everyone, Steve verrkle dot jpeg.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So it' all I'm saying is is that it's looking
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: like it's fake. So let's not you know, get too excited.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: John Doe, if you're watching, don't get too excited because
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we don't know this for sure. Okay, just chill out,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and I'd rather like, you know, err on the side
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of if the person who was originally completely in support
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: of all these things being revealed then says, well, no, no,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that's not true. I'm inclined to agree. Now if something changes,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it changes. And look, the Department of Homeland Security probably
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: has you know, it likely has connections with all kinds
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of other countries, so it wouldn't even be that crazy
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: if it was true.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It did show. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: if they're scrambling to like deny it, it kind of
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that actually makes it worse for me because several government
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: departments have activity in other countries. It's not just that one.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So I hear you anyway, So, uh, the other the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: only thing, the other thing I was going to say
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: about it is I think it's a good thing to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: have this kind of transparency, uh, the only thing that
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: so loog overall. I think it's good that we can
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: see this. I actually meant to look to see if
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I'm properly represented, like I know my account should be.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I have a blue check. Yeah, Virginia, USA, so yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: so my mine is right, So maybe check your see
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: if there's an error, because I don't know how precise.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Mine doesn't show my state like I I'm give a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: blue check, or at least it didn't when I looked before,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: but it didn't show my state, but it shows that
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I'm from the US. I was very disappointed actually when
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: that I discovered as I was going through and looking
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: at you know, some of the people that I interact
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: with the most, that it's not all Ohio. Everything is
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: not Ohio. I was. I was misinformed by the meme
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: lords that it's all Ohio and it always has been,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and apparently there are places that are not Ohio. I'm upset.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Like I said at the top of the show, I'm
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: pure as the driven snow. I'm the United Kingdom. United
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Kingdom have been that way since two thousand and nine,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: which I think is before Elon. Maybe I've been here
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: for more than most people, and I've never been suspended
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: or fucking expelled despite all the match I've said. I've
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: been here with the same fucking account for six same.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I've been with that my account. I think I started
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: my account in two thousand and nine, around the same
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: time I had my first Reddit account, maybe a little
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: bit too earlier. But yeah, I've never been like suspended, suspended,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: but I've been locked a few times.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, So yeah, that The only thing I guess
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I would have like some concerns with is that, like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I guess I just prefer authenticity over people just trying
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to sort of like take advantage of these things, even
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: because it's it's not they're not just posting like pro
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: America and like pro men's right stuff. They're like do
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: They're like playing both sides, so you're getting like, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: it's almost like a lot of the fighting online might
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: just be noise created by engagement farmers. And then there
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: are people with real accounts in real places that are
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: also engaging in engagement farming, like Ian Miles Chong, Tim Poole.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You know, they they that guy with the that Korean
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: guy with the really or is he Korean. I think
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: with the super high i Q, he's always like, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: am the highest IQ in the world, and he makes
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: pos all the time, starting with I am the highest IQ,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you know, or that girl who's a paleontologist with an OnlyFans,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Like it's just kind of like it just crowds the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: feed with garbage, and I guess that's my only issue
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And it's kind of just a nitpick more than I think,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: because that's like complaining that the sky is blue, you know.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, otherwise, like I'm glad that we have this transparency.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So all right, the highest IQ Korean grift. Yeah, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: he still says it. He still says it even though
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I think he's been debunked.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: But anyway, measuring The tough thing about measuring i Q
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: is the that when you take an IQ test, there
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: are factors that don't have anything to do with how
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: intelligent you are that influence it. Yeah, like my best
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: score on an IQ test versus my worst score on
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: an IQ test like makes me wonder. We'll just we'll
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: just say that my best score on an IQ test
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I could have gone to Harvard or Yale and wowed everybody.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: My worst score on an IQ test. It could have
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: been institutionalized for it just but but it was, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I was having an incredibly bad day and couldn't couldn't
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: focus at all on the test, and therefore it came
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: out really bad. But I mean, peoples can very, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: quite significantly based on things like that, so it is
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: kind of hard to compare. It doesn't mean that somebody
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that's had a high IQ test score doesn't have a
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: high IQ, but it does make it difficult to compare
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: your score to other people and say I'm smarter than you. No,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I'm smarter than you because you don't know that. You
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: don't know how they were doing the day they took
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the test.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: But if you score really low on the IQ test,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: then they won't convict you for your violent crimes. They'll
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: just so go, oh, yeah, you're too stupid to face trial,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: so go off and live your life on the streets.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: When you answer these IQ tests, you can say whatever
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the fuck you like, I have no idea how to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: rotate a shape in my mind?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: What is.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Stupid way to fucking run things? Don't it? Yeah?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I guess if if I ever get falsely accused of
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: a violent crime, that's what I'll do. I'll just be
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: retarded for a day.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, all right, So I got some super childs
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna move it, move on to the next thing.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So Richard Bierre gives us five dollars, Thank you, Richard,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and he says, imagine what India would look like if
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: there was as much effort put towards installing toilets and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: sewage systems as is put into scamming an online impersonation.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I think it best. By the way, I don't want
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to say we. I don't want to say we because
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not the British Empire. But the British Empire did
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: its best to fucking civilize those people, just saying they
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: kicked us out after a few decades and we're like, no,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: fuck you, I'll find fine, do as you will. India
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: fucking create Pakistan and Bangalesh while you're at it. Jesus
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I thought there because like you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: like we we have Indian MRAs that come to icmis
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and I think that it's it's a I
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: think it's a cultural thing because they have a cast system,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and I think what we see is usually the people
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of the lower caste. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be an expert at all. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: do think it's like a stars contrast, you know, knowing them,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: seeing them in person, and even having some friends, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: then like the people that are like over there off
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the boat, you know, So I don't know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: The people that are the people that are trying to
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: escape any given country are going to be the ones
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: that are the most downtrodden there. And then the people
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: that network between other countries for any purpose like business
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: or activism and stuff like that to take information back
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: to their country are usually the ones that are hard working,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: you know, not necessarily because I don't like to think
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: of people as good people and bad people, but people
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: with a better work ethic and a better sense of
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: responsibility for their communities. And so what we see in
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: their Men's Rights Movement when we work with MRAs from
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: other countries are almost always the latter. They're almost always
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: people that are attempting to do work for their communities
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: and their nations. So they're almost always people who are
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: a higher caliber of individual. Whereas when you see the
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: people that like immigrate illegally or people who try to
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: make themselves out to be refugees. You get a mixed bag.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Some people are that high caliber that are just unable
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to have success in their country, but you also get
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: the people that have gotten themselves into trouble in their
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: country and need to get out, and so that's why
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: you end up with that mess.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Nova Fan gives us a rumble ran
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: for a dollar and says, but Brian, the government lied
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to me once, and now I need to assume everything
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: else they say is a lie, including the govern claim
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that the Earth is round. Yes, they actually use that
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: on me. That's what a lot of flat earth is believe.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: The government is lying to us about the Earth. So
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that's that's how you get there. I guess.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Well, no, they're not lying about it being being round,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: but they are lying about several things in regard to
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the Earth. No, but they are lying about the reasons
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: behind climate change, for instance.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, I've never.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I've never. I don't recall the government ever telling me
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: that the Earth is round. That doesn't seem to be
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: one of their concerns. It's not. It's not like you said.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: They do keep telling me that if we give them money,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: they will change the weather.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeap, which you know that they they already do
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: cloud seating, and they're already putting chemicals in the air.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Not not to say that I necessarily know anything about
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: kim trails or like, there's a lot of other ways
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: that they're putting chemicals into the air. But even the
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: stuff that you know we're doing commerce wise, global warming
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: and global cooling are things that occur naturally over and
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: over again and have done so throughout the existence of
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: this planet, sometimes to great extremes and even causing extinction events.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: And it's it's kind of silly to look at the
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: temperatures from a very short stretch of world history and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: like the blink of an eye in terms of geological history,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: and say that it's definitive proof, undeniable, definitive proof that
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: stuff coming out of the smokestacks at in factories and
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: stuff is the cause of this type of change, just.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Saying yeah, oh yeah, next super chow. Meredith g gives
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: us five dollars and I think she gave to the fundraiser.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Meredith, appreciate it, and says HBr News number
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: five twenty eight, Honey, for the Badger. It seems to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: me if someone at X was calling DHS location as Israel,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: someone maybe having some fund with the location feature, so
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like a prank kind of. I mean, well, I yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like, there is what l High
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Hypocrite has discovered, according to the refutation by the person
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Nikita Pierre, is that it can be like artificially crafted,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like you make a video to make it look like
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that's there. But it's thoughly mistake was it was in
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gray instead of like the way it's supposed to look,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I guess, and the uh then you figured out it
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: was fake, so that there is a way to do it,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and obviously whoever did it was doing it, you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to basically like play a prank, get everybody worked up.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: So but anyway, thank you for.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping it was true just because
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: it would be hilarious.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be funny. Well I think a lot
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of people were laughing.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm willing to entertain the possibility that Israel
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: is fucking us all, and I'm willing to entertain the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: possibility is that it isn't. Are you all happy? Are
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: you all gonna fucking bitch at me for not saying
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: either of the things I just said, or saying both
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of the things that you said.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that makes it even worse.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Well, anyway, let us know what you guys think about
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: this one in the comments. I got to move on
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to the next story. Okay, So Natalie Green, who I'm
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: going to call Hussy smollette, a twenty six year old
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Reuters Law School student and former part time staff assistant
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to US Representative Jeff ban Drew, which is the Republican
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: representative of New Jersey, has been charged federally with conspiracy
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to convey false statements and hoaxes, as well as making
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: false statements to law enforcement, following an alleged stage attack
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: on July twenty third, twenty twenty five. According to the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: criminal complaint, Green and an unnamed female co conspirator fabricated
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a violent assault at the Egg Harbor Township Nature Reserve
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: in New Jersey, where the co conspirator called nine one
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: one around ten thirty pm, claiming three masked men with
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: guns had ambushed them while walking a trail, threatened to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: shoot them, and specifically reference Green's employment with a federal official. Remember,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: she is a part time staff assistant former, so just
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: remember that, Okay, not high in the totem bowl. Not
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: really high in the totem bowl. Anyway. Police arrived to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: find Green in a wooded area off the trail, her
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: shirt pulled over her head and secure it with a
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: zip tie, her hands and feet bound with black zip ties,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and dozens of lacerations on her face, neck, upper chest,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and shoulders inflicted with a scalpel like tool. Her body
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: bore black marker writings including Trump whorror on her stomach
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and federal official like her name, I guess is racist
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: on her back, with Green screaming that one attacker had
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: a gun. Investigations by local police and the FBI revealed
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the incident was a hoax, with phone records showing the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: co conspirator searched zip ties near me on July twenty
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: one and purchased them at a Dollar General store. Matching
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: black zip ties and duct tape were later found in
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Green's Masarati SUV Masarati expensive car by the way. Further
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: evidence indicated Green, huh, yes.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: She lost your license, now she can't drive.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Further evidence indicated Green had driven to a Pennsylvania body
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: modification and scarification artist's studio on July twenty first, providing
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a custom pattern and paying five hundred dollars in cash
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: for the deliberate cuts, as confirmed by a receipt signed
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: waiver and her new Jersey driver's license recovered from the studio.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Inconsistencies emerged in Green's and her co conspirator's accounts during interviews,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: including mismatched descriptions of the attackers and the sequence of events.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Arrested on November nineteen, twenty twenty five, Green made her
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: initial court appearance the next day, pleaded not guilty, and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: was released on a two hundred thousand dollars unsecure bond
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: with conditions. Her attorney, Lewis Barbone, maintains her innocence and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: emphasizes her presumption under the law. Vanrew's office confirmed her
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: employment and ended had ended prior to the charges, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: expressed sadness while offering thoughts and prayers for her well being.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: If convicted, Green faces up to ten years in prison.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And I just want to say, before you guys take over,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: if if you wanted to like be a victim and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: without spending all of that money and you like getting
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: scarred up and everything, just buy a maga hat and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: walk around New Jersey and wait, well, you don't have
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to like say about Dayton.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: And I didn't people said that to me about Dayton
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: because it's you know, it's a it's a city, it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: a blue blah blah blah. And I've been here since
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: two thousand and six. And I suppose there are parts
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: of Dayton I could go into, like the inner city,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the poorer neighborhoods in the inner city where like the
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: only thing they get on TV is PBS and CNN.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: But most of the communities that I've gone into and
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: done business and you know, shopped and whatever, like, no,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't Nobody would bother you, nobody would care. They
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: might not even notice that you were there. But yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: and I think most of the time people don't notice
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: each other in public places in bigger cities. And when
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: you go into smaller communities, most of the people there
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: are actually pro Trump. So you got quite a bit
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: of Like most of the rural areas are read, most
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: of the small town areas are red, large portions of
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: the blue cities are red. And if you actually zoom
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: in on the cities in a in a map that
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you know shows who voted what way during that election.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: You get very small sections, very small precincts that vote blue.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: It's just that they're heavily populated, and it's the people
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: that can't afford to live anywhere else live in those
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: those neighborhoods for the most part, or the people who
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: are so wealthy that other people can't afford to live
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: in their neighborhood. Those are those are the two. Like
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: everybody in between is either voting red or they don't
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: care how you vote. And I don't think for the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: most part that there are very many places in the
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: entire United States that somebody could go to be victimized
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: for being a Republican or wearing a Trump hat or
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: anything like that. I mean, people will like maybe steal
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: your hat, you know, or tell you off, and you
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: can get a recording if you really want to and
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: be famous on social media. But what she claims happened
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: to her, I think you'd have to go to Portland
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to have that happen, or you know, one of the
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: countries that are one of the countries, one of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: counties that is exporting people all over the country to
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: protest for money in neighborhoods where they don't live, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: destroy the shopping centers that they don't shop at, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: so on. None of that is likely to happen in
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: a location where she would have been What I really
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: don't understand is what she thought she was going to accomplish,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: because this is not a movement that thrives on that
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: kind of victimhood, this kind of Nobody would have been
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: excited about this happening. People would have been upset, But
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think it would have changed the way that
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: people thought about Trump, or how they were going to vote,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: or what their other political opinions were, or what they
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: did at any given moment during any day besides maybe
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: answer a tweet here and there about it. And I
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: cannot believe that a woman who looks like that was
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: starved for attention. So there has to be something really
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: wrong with this woman, like seriously wrong. And I'm glad
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: she's not working for a politician anymore because somebody who
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: would do something like this is dangerous, And the fact
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that she's maintaining her innocence, like unless she comes out
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: with some you know, dark horse evidence that you know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere, it's proved that this really did happen
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: to her, And I would be really really skeptical if
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: that was, you know, the case, like this is a
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: dangerous woman who tells dangerous lies, and I'm glad to
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: see this is playing out with you know, seriousness and everything.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: But I certainly hope that she's ordered into mental health
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: care and you know, not just whatever punishment she gets,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you know, happens, but she can't get out of it,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: she can't get released from it when the time comes.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Less he's completed some sort of mental health treatment on
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: top of that, because that's normal. People don't do this, right,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: healthy mentally healthy people don't do this. And I know
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: that there are a lot of women who lie about
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: experiencing a violent crime or you know, being in particular
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: sexually violated or sexually harassed or followed or any number
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: of other things for specific reasons, covering for cheating on
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: their boyfriend, mad at a guy that turned them down,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: or cheated on them, or something like that, you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: seeing if they can get money, because there are some
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: places where victims do get paid out of a stipend
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: for victims that have medical care needs and stuff like that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: But.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Just for the hell of it without any goal to
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: accomplish that seems like a reasonable goal. Will not very
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: many women do that. There's always something something vengeful going on,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: you know, or something capitalistic, something not not like normal
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: capitalized capitalizing business, but exploitation of the public sympathy. It's
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: like people who fundraise for cancer that they don't have.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: It.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Just so, this is disturbing. Not in the same way
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: as say a violent crime or anything like that, but
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: it is disturbing. And I do hope that they follow
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: through on this, and there are heavy penalties that she's
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: not allowed to stop serving until she gets certified care.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, well I met Mike. I'm sure you wanted
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to say something about this.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I apologize, no, go on if you if you if you.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I was just all I'm gonna say is you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: obviously this is like not good to do, and I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's not good for anyone
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: to lie about these things are very serious. It wastes
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the money and resources and time of law enforcement investigating
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: hoaxes like this. It's it doesn't matter who does it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I don't care what you know, Like whatever, the truth
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: is enough and we already have it on our side.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: This actually does more harm to like, you know, like
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the case that I would be making as somebody who
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: is in favor of like the current administration over the alternative.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't really want that. This makes that harder,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and it also feeds into you know, the opposite, like
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: they use this stuff. But it's also interesting to point
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: out number one, it was this is a woman doing it,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a young one who as far as I know, she
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: was only twenty six, so yeah, very young woman. There
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: was an opportunity for her to make some you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: get some attention, and she used it. And yet it
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: didn't get the same kind of media attention that Jesse
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Smallett did. And I mean justse Smulltt's like the best,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like opposite. Now maybe it's because he's a celebrity. I'm
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: sure that that helps. But he got in front of cameras,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: he sat down on sixty minutes or whatever it was,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: he was able to make his case. Everyone believed it.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: It took like a while for that to be debunked. This,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know, when it happened, people
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: were like, nah, that probably didn't That's that's not how
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that goes. Because even though there have been assassinations you know,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of a couple of people, not just Charlie Kirk, but
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: there was that guy in I think it was in
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Portland that was part of that like Patriot prayer, I think,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and he was murdered by Antifa or someone who's supposed
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to be an Antifa member. And uh so we know
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that those things happened, but like not some random part
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: time you know, staff assistant, which is probably like we're
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: we're looking at one step above an internship for that position.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Most likely that that's not how that works. So it
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was suspicious. I'm glad nobody like really bought into it
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and went along with it, because it at least tells
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: us that some cases of women trying to like make
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: themselves into a victim of the situation through a hoax
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that doesn't always work out. But yeah, it is interesting that,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you know, it didn't get the same kind of let's say,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: charity that Jesse Smollett's thing did. But I'm not really
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: that surprised. So that's that's all I want to say,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: So Mike, you can go ahead.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed the good old days when all we
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: did was cut ourselves without any accomplices, and it wasn't
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: for political reasons. It was just good old fashioned teenage angst.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And yes, I do speak to this from the first person.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I went through that phase when I was eighteen. It's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: something I haven't brought up in public since, like ten
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: years ago. When I did my Miley Stewart response, I
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: mentioned it to compare it with the trans issue, how
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: it has parallels with this new kind of self elected mutilation.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I know we like to paint the nineties as though
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: it was the best time to live, especially as a teenager,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't. Listen and gentlemen, the cracks were already showing.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: The nineties was when teenagers really got in to the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: habit of taking razor blades to their arms. This was
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: before EMO was the thing, but it seems obvious that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: it was part of the phenomenon that led to EMO
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: being a thing. Yes, to some degree, it was a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: social contagion along the lines of did you know you
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: could take a razor blade and cut ribbons into your
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: forearms and even stub cigarettes out on those same forearms,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: and it can offer you some kind of release, a
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: physical release from the emotional pain that you're feeling. Just
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: to be clear, it doesn't whatsoever. It was only ever
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: a cry for help, even for those of us who
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: made every effort to hide it. We did it behind
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: closed doors, and we kept our sleeves rolled down lest
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: anyone see it. We did it because we wanted to
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: cry for help without anyone hearing our cries. It sounds
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: like it doesn't make sense, but it's It's like writing
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: gloomy poetry that you don't any that you don't want
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: anyone to read. Ever, it's like primal scream therapy. It's
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: not important that people hear it. It's important that you
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: just scream it, indeed into the void. But screaming doesn't
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: leave scars. Poetry doesn't leave scars. At all points. You
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: should ask yourself when has it gone too far? And yeah,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: when it leaves permanent scars is when it's gone too far.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And it was bad enough in the nineties, when this
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: typical and inevitable teenage angst collided headlong with the wholly
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: unnecessary and avoidable social contagion of self mutilation. If only
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: we could have predicted how much worse it would get
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: in the twenty first century. Nowadays, young people aren't just
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: quietly indulging in masochism for private personal reasons. They're orchestrating
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: sado masochism for political reasons. I think that's what we're
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: looking at in stories like this, not justse smilet justice, Smiller.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: It didn't actually sustain any real injuries. It was just
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a hoax, just a theatrical shower of crocodile tears. But
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: there are people who are actually willing to sustain scars
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: for the sake of political struggles, political struggles that are
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: entirely misguided and misapplied. I think it's driven by a
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: tragic cry for help, the same tragic cry for help
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: that corrupted us in the nineties, but it's only exacerbated
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: and indeed encouraged, drawn out even further by this sick
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: appropriation by political forces. It was bad enough when it
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: was just a social contagent, but now it's spread like
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: a cancer into a political contagion. In the nineties, it
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: was just you should sca yourself because you'll feel better,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: and that was bad enough. But now it's you should
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: scar yourself so we can undermine a president we don't like,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: or indeed uphold a president and we don't like. Whatever
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the fucking is and any other case, yes, that is worse,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: indescribably worse. It almost seems redundant now that it's already
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: escalated even further, now that we've had numerous stories of
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: young men setting themselves on fire for the sake of
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: freeing Pallas sign or whatever, not to mention that God
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: knows how many young people have elected to have to
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: have their genitals butterflied because they've been convinced that gender
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: is an otherwise unfixable vector of oppression. But I don't know.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I guess this story hit me harder than those stories
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: did because I've never set myself on fire, I've never
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: cut off a body part altogether. And to thank the Stars,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I only got as far as carving and burning simple
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: geometric shapes into myself, and I stopped when I realized
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: it wasn't achieving anything to think we now live in
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: a generation of young people who think it is achieving
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: anything to do such things. Is it's really quite disturbing.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I would say shame on anyone who's encouraging this, But
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: shame is not the answer. Shame is the problem. Shame
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: is the addiction that everyone keeps reverting to because It's
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: one of those vices that people think is a virtue.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: We used to shame people for being different. Nowadays we
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: still shame people for being different, but we also shame
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: people for being normal. Nowadays you get shamed no matter
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: what you do, and yet people still think shame is
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: the solution. Everyone in the world could cut themselves into
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: pieces and burn themselves out of shame, and people will
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: still try to fix it by shaming everyone even more.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I'm honestly impressed that we even made it this far
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: as a species. What the flying fuck is wrong with everyone?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Jesus ware it's times like this. I wish I could
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: think of a joke to lighten the mood, but I cannot.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Just imagine usaid something funny. Folks, you can do it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I believe in you, and I won't shame you for it.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let us know where you got. Oh sorry,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: hann were you gonna say something? I thought I heard
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: a voice muted? So impossible, I suppose.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: I suppose the one thing I could say is, you know,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: if you're female and you're out there and you're listening,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: and you're you're thinking, you're just desperate for attention from conservatives,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: or uh libertarians or an caps or the men's rights
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: movement or any anybody that's not woke dipshits. This is
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: the opposite of the way that you would get like
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: we share stuff when people do really cool things like
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: helping some homeless guy clean himself up and get a job,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: or teaching a kid how to fold the American flag
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: because he didn't know what to do with it when
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: he came into your yard and found it broken, the
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: pole broken in the flag on the ground, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: or or things like that. Do stuff like that, teach
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: somebody why they should be part of your political faction
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: instead of being a woke dipshit, and you know, maybe
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: maybe we'll pay attention to you, but be careful because
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: if you do too much of that shit, then you
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: do end up getting victimized like this, they'll shoot you.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you know, with like hoaxes are only
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: going to get worse because well with a I so
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to be very very like very
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: adamant and but yeah, just like don't just you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the the the old saying believe none of what you
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: hear in half of what you see. Well, we're gonna
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: have to like step that up, believe none of what
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you hear and none of what you see, because yeah,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: it's gonna get harder and harder to tell the truth.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: So we are living in the era where the running
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Man could easily happen.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, like way easier actually than the
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: running Man did even did it? All right? Anyways, think
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: about this. Common's gonna move on to the next story,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: all right. So on November seventeen, twenty twenty five, Bethany McGhee,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a twenty six year old business research analy young ladies
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: in these stories today and a lot of like unfortunate incidents,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: twenty six year old business research analysts or Caterpillar originally
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: from Upland, Indiana, was the victim of a horrific unprovoked
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: on a northbound Chicago Transit Authority Blue Line train near
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the Clark Lake station in the loop. I know exactly
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: where that is, by the way, as a Chicagoan. According
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: to federal prosecutors and surveillance footage, a fifty year old
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Reid, a Chicago resident with an extensive criminal history,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: including seventy two arrests since age eighteen, So for basically
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: thirty two years and recent charges for aggravated battery. Approached
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: McGee from behind as she sat alone at her phone. Reid,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: who had filed who had filled a bottle with gasoline
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: at a nearby gas station just twenty minutes earlier, poured
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the accelerant over her head and body. McGee fought him
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: off and fled toward the front of the train, but
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Reid chased her, ignited the bottle, and used the flaming
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: container to set her a blaze. As flames engulfed her,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: McGee desperately rolled on the floor to extinguish them, while
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Reid watched. No other passengers intervened until the train stopped.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: When she stumbled onto the platform, collapsed, and was aided
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: by bystanders who helped put out the fire. Evidence recovered
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: included a partially melted bottle, a lighter, and burned clothing remnants.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Reid fled but was arrested the next morning, wearing the
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: same clothes from the video and showing fire injuries on
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: his hand. During transport, he repeatedly yelled phrases like burn
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: B and burn alive B, which we know what that
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: stands for. I'm just reading it as it is described
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: by the report. He faces federal charges of committing a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: terrorist attack or other violence against a mass transportation system,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: with a judge ordering him detained due to his dan
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: dur to the community and a history of violating probation
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: terms while on electronic monitoring for the prior battery charge.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: A mental health evaluation was also mandated after his erratic
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: courtroom behavior. McGhee, who graduated with a Bachelors of Science
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: from Purdue University's Polytechnic Institute, suffered severe burns over much
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: of her body and remains a critical condition at Stroger's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Hospital Burn Unit, where her family has expressed gratitude for
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: the medical team's care while requesting privacy. Strojer Hospital is
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: actually where I got my cancer treatment done too, by
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the way. Originally described as an animal lover, churchgoer and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: close to her parents Emily, and brothers Mark and John
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: based on her social media profiles, McGhee has since been
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: identified in online discussions as a supporter of Black Lives Matter,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and with screenshots circulating of her past Facebook posts expressing
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: solidarity with the movement. This was from twenty twenty. She
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: was probably eighteen years old when this happened. Just pointing
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: that out for context. So this detail, amplified on platforms
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: like x and forums, has sparked polarized commentary, with some
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: users highlighting the irony given brief background, and others decrying
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: the lack of intervention or broader systemic issues in Chicago's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: public transit, safety, and criminal justice policies. Transportation Secretary Sean
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Duffy publicly named McGee on social media, criticizing the city's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: carelessness in handling repeat offenders and calling for stricter measures.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Her family statement emphasize appreciation for public support amid her
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: ongoing recovery, underscoring the profound impact on her life and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: loved ones. And I just want to add a little
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: bit more to this because I think it's important to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: understand a few things. So I didn't just pick this
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: because of the I guess you could say irony of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: her being a young woman supporting Black Lives matter when
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: things were going down in twenty twenty, and then being
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a victim of a terrible crime, a violent crime against
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: her simply because she was in the wrong place at
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the wrong time. We don't know what the motive behind
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Reed's actions are, but it's sort of irrelevant because there's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a couple of things going on here. Number one, Chicago
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: or Cook County specifically, has they have a problem with
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: this sort of catch and release policy in terms of
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: like how they deal with criminals. They had this act
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: called the Safety Act SAFT SAFE dash T which stands
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: for Safety, Accountability, Fairness and Equity Today Act to sweeping
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one criminal justice reform law. So this came
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: out after the BLM stuff, Okay, a response to it,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: likely put in place by Beatlejews, the former mayor before
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson, went into effect on September eighteenth, fully in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, so this is while Brandon Johnson was
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: in office, who, by the way, ran on defunding the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: police and essentially criminal justice reform, which I put in
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: quotes which really just means, well, this what I'm about
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to read. It's most famous and controvert provision is the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: complete elimination of cash bail across the state, making Illinois
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: the first state in the nation to do so. Instead
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: of requiring defendants to post money to get out of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: jail while awaiting trial, the law creates a presumption that
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: almost everyone is eligible for pre trial release unless prosecutors
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: can prove in a detention hearing that the person poses
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: a real and present threat to a specific individual or
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the community, or is a high flight risk. The law
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: divides offenses into three categories, One non detainable mostly low
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: level crimes, two detainable only with strong evidence of danger
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: or wilful flight, and three automatically detainable murder, certain sex
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: of offenses, et cetera. Judges may impose conditions such as
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: electronic monitoring which were imposed on reed who ignored them, curfews,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: no contact orders, or home confinements. So this is like
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: criminal justice reform ultimately. Now, one other thing I wanted
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: to say regarding this read person is that this guy
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: has been arrested I think like seventy two, yes, seventy
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: two times in Cook County, fifteen times convicted, including eight felonies.
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  Speaker 1: His offenses are various assaults, batteries and arson, drug related crimes,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: and property damage, and he has like a whole rap
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: sheet very long, And the truth is is that he
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: should have been in jail when this happened. He broke
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: his electronic sort of curfew or his limited movement anyway
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to end up in this situation. He obviously needed help
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: of some other way. But this guy's been in the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: system since he was eighteen years old, so it's almost
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like some people can't be rehabilitated. And the criminal justice
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: reforms that are being put through are usually headed up
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: by this lady named Kim Fox who why it's basically
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: like a feminine way of dealing with crime, which is
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: to try to reform or rehabilitate or send social workers,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and it just gets people hurt. And this eighteen year
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: old girl that supported BLM twenty six years old now,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: but she was see twenty six, it's the twenty twenty five.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty she was no. She was twenty one,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: so very pretty young, probably naive, probably felt like virtual
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: signaling whatever. She was definitely a pro BLM person. I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: don't think she is now, But I'm not saying that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: because I think it's funny. I just think that we
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like there needs to be realism
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: and there isn't. There's like, I don't know what it is.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: It's like a desire to, you know, seem like a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: good person, maybe ignore the dangers around you, and then
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: you put yourself in this situation. And she's not going
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: to die, so I guess there's that, But she's going
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: to be badly burned, so anyway.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: May she may come back out of the hospital wishing
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: she had that's going to be really rough because she's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: gonna have horrible scars. She's going to have pain for
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: the rest of her life where those scars are. As
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: far as this guy, what we know is that he's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: been in the criminal justice system since he was eighteen.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: What we don't know is whether or not he was
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: in the criminal justice system before he was eighteen, And
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: based on his trajectory, I'm going to make a supposition,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: an educated guess, that his entry into the criminal justice
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: system occurred prior to turning eighteen. And the reason we
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: don't know is because rightfully, minors criminal records are sealed.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: You don't you can't find out that information unless they've
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: done something that they became famous for doing, and a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: lot of kids that go that route end up dead
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: from what they've done. But the thing that bothers me
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: about discussion of criminal justice reform is that people talk
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: about it like you can just punish a psychopath or
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: a sociopath into compliance, And the problem is that most
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: of them like, there's this stereotype right that that social
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: paths and psychopaths are geniuses that do horrible things and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: might might rule the world if if it wasn't for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: some you know, benevolent person. Most of them are actually
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: really really not that bright, borderline intellectually disabled quite frequently fact.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: And most of them have some sort of history of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: having been abused in some way that they have essentially
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: learned that might make right, and they don't have the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: tools that you usually would use to get over that.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: And except that, you know, you live in a community
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: with other people, and they have just as much right
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: to be there as you, and you don't have any
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: more right to treat them like objects, toys or targets
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: free or frustration than they do to you. And the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: only way to keep the peace is that nobody does that, right,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: So you end up in a situation where, you know,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: if you get somebody like this started in the criminal
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: justice system, say as a preteen or a teenager, they
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: go to JUVI and they get beaten up by the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: other guys in JUV, they get uh recruited into a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: gang in JUV, and there's a pretty strong chance that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: they get sexually harassed, molested, or other somewhere in between
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: in their other types of sexual misconduct committed against them
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: by the female staff at the in fact of sexual
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: misconduct by staff at juvenile facilities involves a woman, it's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: like just a woman perpetrator, and then three more percent
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: a male and a female or two women multiple perpetrators,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: and it's the majority of sexual misconduct reported by boys
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: in juvenile detention. So recidivism starts in juvenile detention when
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: rather than actually trying to figure out why did this
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: boy commit the crime that landed him here? Is it
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: because he's developing psychopathy or sociopathy or as some other
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: mental health condition that maybe is treatable, that maybe he
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: can learn to fit in with society and be a
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: productive citizen. Or is it because he's been you know,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: he's not mentally unwell, but is in some circumstance or
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: another where this is how he's learned to behave and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to reform those kids. They're
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: in there getting raped and beaten and recruited into gangs
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: and essentially roped into recidivism, and as soon as they
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: turn eighteen, the prison system cares about them even less,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: and they'll either be warehoused or they'll be caught and released.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: But at no point in the prison system does anybody
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: consider just teaching teaching people at the childhood age when
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: they first start getting into trouble a better way or
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: improving their life circumstances like maybe they're in an abusive
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: home and you need to get them out of that home.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: When they get released, if they're in a gang in
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: a poor neighborhood, something like, they get sent back into
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: the same damn environment. So when they're young, when there's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: maybe a chance of ending their career as a criminal
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: and starting them on a career as a regular citizen
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: that does some sort of job and pays their rent
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: and interacts peaceful with other people, they don't get the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: benefit of the education they need, they don't get the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: treatment they need, and they do get treated like just
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: objects in a warehouse. And that's if the prison system
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: is being nice to them, because there's a lot worse,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: and it's you might as well just lock people up
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: the first time that they get arrested and never let
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: them back out. If you're going to do that, there's
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: the idea that putting someone in a cell for so
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: many you know, months, or so many weeks or so
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: many years, cures them of whatever behavioral tendencies existed in
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: them that caused them to commit the crime that got
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: them arrested and put them there. It's it's just bullshit,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: you know. Go sit over here, Go sit in a cell,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: Go hang out with these other criminals. Go spend your
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: time surrounded by people who did things just as stupid
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: and wrong as what you did, with very little help
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: and bettering yourself. You know, maya, maybe you can take
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: some classes, maybe they have some kind of program that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: addresses the surface issues you but for the most part,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: very little help, no serious effort at rehabilitation. And by
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: the way, we'll see you in another six months after
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: you get out, because we know you're gonna do it again.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: If if we did that with other stupid human behavior,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: like hospitals sabotaged patient's ability to live a healthy lifestyle
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: so that you know, they had a guaranteed repeat customer
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: coming in, for instance, People get mad when they find
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: out that that's happened, right. People get mad when they
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: learn that a particular form of treatment is actually causing
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: health problems instead of curing them. People get mad when
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: they find out that a particular medicine or other substance
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: that you're being asked to put into your body is
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: doing damage instead of healing you. People file lawsuits for
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: malpractice and multiple other things. Right people, People file lawsuits
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: even when the medical community didn't know that what they
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: were doing was going to have that effect, even when
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: it was the only thing available. And when something better
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: comes along, sue the hospital doesn't even have to be
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: in the wrong. When they are in the wrong, you
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: get big class action lawsuits. Right, so outrage over it.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: When the medical profession does that, it's huge, widespread, pretty
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: much universal. Has resulted in an entire faction of the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: legal services and an entire area of law. The prison system.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares, right, nobody's like, oh gosh, these poor guys
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: because they're criminals, so everybody hates them. Nobody considers the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: idea that creating a population of human beings who are
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: so dysfunctional that they once they're released from human storage,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: basically they're they're going to do something that's going to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: get them put back in there over and over again.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: So the prison can be paid by the stake to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: continue to warehouse them. Why why aren't people upset about that?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: All right, Mike, do you want to say anything I do.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: To put it back to the incident in question. In Europe,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: we often criticize Americans for not having more trains and buses.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: We know you like your cars, but we're like, maybe you,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't have to drive them all the time
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: if you had other options, climate change or no climate change,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe you would benefit from a more developed public transit system.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: But the penny is starting to drop now, especially now
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: that here in Europe, we too are experiencing the results
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: of having to share these confined public spaces with people
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: who have been trained and encouraged to kill us, and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: not just kill us with guns, but kill us with
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: anything that can be purchased from a gas station or
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: at your local Walmart. The automatic knee jerk reaction is,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: of course, to ban the sale of anything that can
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: be used to kill someone. We're not allowed guns here
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: in Europe, or at least in the UK, and we're
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: on the verge of banning kitchen knives that have sharpened tips.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: And whoa betide what happens when anyone gets burned alive
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: with petroleum in this neck of the woods will no
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: longer be allowed to pump our own gas. I know
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: that's an americanhy stereotype, but I believe New Jersey is
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: the only state left where you can't do that that
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: sort of reagion ANYWAYES be grateful Americans that, as reactionary
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: as your government appears to be, they don't attempt to
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: solve every problem by punishing law abiding citizens. Maybe they
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: will eventually figure out the elusive solution to this Rubik's cube.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe you should punish the criminals. Seventy two, seventy motherfucking
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: two arrests, and the motherfucker was still walking free. Is
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: any one of the Guinness Book of Records writing this
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: shit down, because there should be an entry for this
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: kind of shit. I recall there being this three strikes
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: and your out rule. It's one of these dubious factoids
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: we keep hearing about the American.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Justice system in one state.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Punitarian, punitively authoritarian. According to the propaganda, if you commit
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: three crimes in America, no matter what those crimes are,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: you get prison with a parole. Well, pardon my swollen pancreas,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm I'm
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: sure it's true that the USA imprisons more of its
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: population than any other country except El Salvador, a very
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: recent change. But one has to wonder what the fuck
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: all those Americans did wrong when a nick pardon me,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: that was close. When a brother can commit seventy two
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: crimes and still not go to jail until he sets
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: a bitch on fire in full view of a CCTV camera. Meanwhile,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Derek chauvin Rot's in prison fighting for his life every
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: day because once he kneeled on the shoulder of a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: man dying from a fential of a I'm thinking maybe
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: we're being like to I'm thinking the problem you have
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: in the States is the same problem we have in Europe,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: namely an implicit caste system, where some demographics keep committing
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: crimes because they keep getting away with those crimes, and
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: some demographics can't say boo to a goose without getting
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: the fucking book thrown at them. But look at the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: prison population. It's disproportionately non white. Yes, that's what happens
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: when you encourage and incentivize non white people to commit
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: crimes against white people. That's what happens when you convince
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: non whites that they are oppressed by whites, they act
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: as though they're oppressed. They act as though they have
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: every right to shoot and stab and burn alive the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: people who are oppressing them. If the justice system was
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: actually blind and impartial, like it's supposed to be, the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: ratio would be even more skewed. If you weren't imprisoning
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: white teenagers for possessing a half inch blim of hash,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: but you were in prisoning or the fifty IQ shadow
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: beasts for seventy two violent felonies, then the prison population
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: would be even more skewed. It would have the same
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: demographic makeup as all the fucking commercials. It would be
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: black men and white women as far as the eye
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: could see. Same in Europe. By the way, I'm not
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: singling out America here, we have exactly the same problem
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: over here. It has long since been decided that white
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: people and men are the untermensch. And yes, black men
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: count as men and white women count as white. So
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of them get caught in the crossfire, be
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: it in the prisons or on the fucking trains. You
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: all are going to get arrested and stabbed and set
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: on fire as well. It's a small price to pay
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: as long as every white man who returns a library
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: book two seconds late gets through own in solitary confinement
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: for six months. You might ask what the solution to
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: this problem might be, But what we're dealing with is
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: a solution, a solution to a problem that never existed,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: a final solution. You might say. We're living under a
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: regime that has declared its final solution, that the cause
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: of all our problems is straight white Christian men. And
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: this isn't just a conspiracy theory. They are telling us this.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: They've been telling us this every opportunity since the Frankfurt
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: School outlined it almost exactly a century ago. They are
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: still telling us this. Who is they? Who do you
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: mean by they? You dickhead? You the fucking reply guy
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: listening to me right now, probably in the fucking special
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: chat as you conduct your gaslighting backhanded response to what
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm currently saying. You know what I'm saying. It's what
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: you believe. You will admit it when it suits you,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: and you will deny it when it suits you. I
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: will never get through to you, and I know that
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: you are not even conscious now. You are human I
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: you know, I won't rhetorically go as far as some
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: of us would. I do believe you're human, but I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: will go so far as to say you're not conscious.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Dear reply guy in the special chat. Just like a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: computer infected with a virus is no longer subject to
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: its factory settings, you are no longer beholden to yours.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: So I'm no longer interested in arguing with you. You
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: are a lost cause, and I am only interested in
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: defeating you. And when you are defeated, when you are
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: cold and naked and starving, I will not be there.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: By the creed and the color and the name won't matter,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I won't be there. I will give you as much
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: sympathy as you gave Charlie Kirk as he lay dying
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: in full view of his grieving family. Make of that
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: what you will and what you do, and what world
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: you have made for yourself. I look forward to it
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: in this life or the next. Doctor fucking random account,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: mounted fucking news, honey, fucking badger, fucking radio.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the bit about the number of arrests. I hate
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: to say this, but in the United States, the highest
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: number of arrests attributed to a single individual meaning this
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: individual was arrested that many times, fifteen hundred over fifteen
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: hundred one guy, mostly for things like being drunk in
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: public and stuff like that. And another issue here in
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: the US is approximately sixty percent of all criminal offenses
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: leading to arrest and incarceration here have some sort of
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: relation to alcohol or as illicit drugs as a causative factor.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Either the individual was high, was brain damage from over
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: use of a substance, you know, or they were drunk,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: or they were seeking ways to get a substance they
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: are not legally allowed to have. And then of course
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: there's also the crimes committed in the course of selling
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: illegal substances, where the individuals create a territory to defend
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: and shit like that. A significant amount of crime in
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: the US would be eliminated if we could get the
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: drug problem here under control. And also a significant amount
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: could be eliminated if we decriminalized drug use and drug
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: sales and just started targeting the problem as a mental
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: health problem instead of a criminal issue. Either way, you know,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: you would stop arresting people for having drugs, stop arresting
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: people for seeking drugs. And if somebody commits a crime
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: because they're too stupid to not commit a crime when
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: they're high or drunk. You address the addiction, and that
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: will as long as the individual successfully overcomes the addiction,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: that will eliminate the criminal behavior. A huge amount of
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: criminal behavior revolves around those two substances, such as substances
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: different types of alcohol and different types of drugs, and
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: it would have to be addiction. It is a mental
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: health problem, but it would have to be treated differently
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: than a lot of other mental health problems because a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: lot of mental health problems they're genetic and the cures
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: are not necessarily behavioral. There are mental health problems where
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: the cure is behavioral, like contracting with obsessive compulsive disorder,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: for instance, and the disorder doesn't go away, just like
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: addiction doesn't go away, but the individual develops the tools
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: they need to fight the addiction. And it's rather important
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: that we switch to this method of dealing with these
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: issues if we ever want to reduce the size of
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: the prison population, reduce recidivism, and reduce the likelihood that
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: there are going to be people running around in public
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: committing horrible crimes like this. Just the it's not that
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: a for profit model is bad it's that a profit
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: from return customers model is bad in the prison system,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: and there needs to be some other way to reward
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: dealing with these issues, like profit from you know, a
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: greater reward or whatever, profit from preventing recidivism, from preventing
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: the individual from being arrested again and again and harming
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: other people and stealing from other people and so on.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: You could almost guarantee this individual probably at some point
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: started out trying something stupid to impress friends or to
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: get drugs, or while he was using drugs at some point,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: has probably been in a gang, at some point, has
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: probably been exploited by somebody smarter than him to commit
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: crimes for them, and at some point has has been
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: abused for trying to change. And it just just I
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: feel for this family and I feel for the girl
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: that this happened to, This happens, maybe not this blatant
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: all over the country. Every big city has repeat offenders
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: like this that get let loose and nothing is changing.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: Like we've been talking about this, not just we at
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: Honey Badger Radio, but we as a country have been
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: talking about this for as long, probably longer, much longer
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: then I've been paying attention to politics. So you know,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: since I started at the age of thirteen and nineteen
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: eighty five, we're we're talking, I've been hearing it for
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: forty years. Things need to change, things need to change,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: and nobody's doing it. It's not changing. So it's very discouraging.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Well, if we're if we're talking about read he was
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: failed like a long time ago. Yeah, and uh yeah,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I mean like the the you know, there's there's so
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: much we can get into, like the welfare state and
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: all these other things. And we have done that a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: lot on this channel, but like trying to.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Ever been allowed to get this far. But the last
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: time he got in front of a judge, he shouldn't
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: have been let off because.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: No, no, that's what I'm saying. It was just so
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: that so they create the conditions for these people to
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: exist and they and they're they're suffering, you know, for
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: a number of reasons, addiction or whatever, and their life
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: is violent. Their life knows nothing but you know, anger
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: and pain and disorder, and they bring that to other people.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: And these people facilitate it by letting them out of
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: prison every time, or not even convicting them because of
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: like soft on crime stuff. It's like they create the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: problem with the welfare state and then they don't even
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: offer a solution. They offer a placebo, which is, oh,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: you get to feel good about caring about the downtrodden,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: but you're making them downtrodden and bitter and damaged and
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: broken and abused. And then they go on to do
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: that to other people, and you don't actually have any
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: solutions except like blaming the system, blaming men, blaming patriarchy,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: blaming capitalism, blaming the West, blaming white people, you know,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. You don't solve any problems because they
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: don't have any intention of it. And other people, innocent
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: people get hurt in the crossfire of this stuff, not
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: just the guy himself. And I said this when we
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: covered the George Floyd thing, when when the body cam
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: footage came out and it was on Daily Mail. This
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: was shortly after the incident, and I insisted that Alison
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: and I cover it, and because I knew it was
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: going to create problems, and it didn't. It basically never
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: went away, like we're still dealing with the backlash and
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: the outcome which I said we were going to. I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: said that there are parts of Chicago that have not
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: recovered since the assassination of Martin Luther King Junior. There
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: were like riots that happened, and there are parts of
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: that city that have never recovered it. And I said,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: this is going to be even worse, even though this
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: guy is a nobody, right, but it was. It was
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: even worse. I had to leave the city. I had
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: to basically like I lost friends because they all bought
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: into the bullshit and I I can't talk to my
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: family about it too.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: And right when he did what he did that got
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: the police's attention in the first place, Uh, trying to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: pass off a counterfeit bill. He that that was years
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: after his original first like his criminal history was was
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: it started in the nineties and new drugs and.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Well the whole, the whole.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Uh, that's a that's a perfect example of a guy
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: who never should have been allowed to get to that point. Yeah,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: because the last time he was in front of a right,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: the last time he was in front of a judge
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: before that incident, you know, he should have had he
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: should have a book drawn at him.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: And this first.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Time he was in front of a judge, he should
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: have been treated in a very different manner. He should
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: have had somebody trying to change the way he thinks
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: so that he does not have that rap sheet that
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: goes all the way back to nineteen ninety seven, which
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: is what he had. And this is the same thing
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: this girl. You know, obviously the guy is at fault
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: for what he did, but this girl is her whole
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: life is going to change if she survives, which there's
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: a significant chance that she won't. The higher percentage of
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: your body that's covered and burns, the less chance you
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: have is surviving. Your skin is one of the it's
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: a vital organ. It is It is the biggest organ
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: in your body, and when it is damaged, if you
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: cannot regrow it properly, even with scar tissue, you suffer
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of other maladies, including serious infections, and
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of burn patients die from sepsis because of that.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: That what happened to her there, the guy that did
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: this to her never should have been in this situation
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: in the first place, and the fact that he was.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: You have two sets of people with a gen that
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: are butting heads. One of them is to let everybody
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: go set of people, and the other one is you
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: can punish it out of them without trying anything else,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: and neither one of them is right. But they're not
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: going to change. This is not going to change until
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: regular people start standing up and saying we need real reform,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: not this bullshit, like our prison system has been reformed
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: in quotes over and over and over again, this is
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: the result. They need to do something different.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, last thing I'll say about this is, interestingly,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: Mike brought up Derek Chauvin, who is like, there was
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: an attempt mate on his life. Well, we don't know
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: if he's going to get out of prison alive and
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: if it was that incident that led to this incident.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Because the Soft On Crime the Safety Act was put
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: in a place in twenty twenty one and it was
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: finalized in twenty twenty three, so shortly after the incident
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: involving Floyd and Chauvin, they changed policy and law and
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: they basically created a system that lets potentially violent criminals
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: free and allows them second, third, fourth, fifth, seventeen chances,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: you know whatever, because he was arrested seventy two times
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: but convicted like seventeen times or something like that. And
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: then it also creates the conditions for people like this
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: young lady to do this virtue signaling thinking that she's
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: right and then putting herself in this position. So it's
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: it's just like this is what lies do. And I'm
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to I'm going to like beat
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: the drum on this, and like I said, you know
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: that I know this is men's rights channel and what
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: I what I all base already made it clear that
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the the thing about the men's issues is they start,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: you know, when the child is born, and if we
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: can't intervene before that, and then there's like negative consequences
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: like that child turns to crime. H Well that you know,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: that's that's not like that's that's the product of a
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: system that does not acknowledge the humanity of men. And
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: so we're looking at this the the outcomes of that,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm using this as an opportunity to point that
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: out as well, so that I'm not taking any pleasure
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: in this. I it is it's ironic and a sad
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: way because you know it's well, I don't I don't
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: know what to say about that. It's just it's just
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: something that should never have happened. But she still she
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: supported the people who put the policies in place that
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: put her in this position that and I don't know
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: if he's going to put those put that stuff together.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: Women do this all the time time. Oh these people mean,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: well you should know. And at the same time you
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: have another set of women, so women like her will say,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: let everybody go. All they did was x y Z,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: where X y Z isn't just smoke a joint, it's
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: shoplifted rogain, you know, or some other like expensive item
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: as part of a shoplifting gang. All they did was
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: is steal the neighbor's dog because it was a rare
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: breed and sell it on a black market. You know.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: All they did was carjack somebody. And it'll escalate like
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: that to the point where people are genuinely being directly
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: victimized by an individual. And you hear, well, all they
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: did was is it really that bad that they lifted
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: your wallet? Is it really that bad that they stole
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: your id? Is it really bad? And it's because they
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: want to have that soft heart. And then at the
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: other end of it, you have sometimes the same women,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: by the way, demanding misogyny laws. Oh don't let a
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: man say bitch if he says, bitch, you should arrest him.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: Don't let a man whistle in public. He might be
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: whistling at a girl. You better arrest him for that too.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: So they're demanding that the state arrest men who really
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: haven't done anything to be afraid of, but let the
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: men go that have. And they're demanding that the state
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: treat men like threats all the time, not potential threats,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: men who have the capacity to be dangerous if they
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: so choose, but men who at some point are going
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: to choose to be dangerous. They'll make statements about choosing
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: the bear because you know, you know the bear's not
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: going to rape you. No, you don't. By the way,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: there's you don't know. They they had a wrestling bear
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: that went to different bars and you could wrestle it
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: when it was well it'll eat you, it'll eat you,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: but you know that the bear will eat you. But
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: the thing is they had male and female people could
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: come in and wrestle. Right, you had to be partnered
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: up with another gal if you wanted to wrestle the bear.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: You couldn't be on your period. And there were bunches
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: of girls that were like and in the bar is
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: going how dare you ask if we're on our periods,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: do you understand if it smells that it's either going
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: to get violent and and think it's blood and try
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: to eat you, or it's going to behave in an
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: entirely inappropriate manner for an animal to behave toward a human.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: Women get upset before they ever consider what it is
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: being asked to disclose. Why are you being asked to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: disclose this? Maybe it's because somebody's trying to protect you, right,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: And women will go for causes like this because they
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: think the first layer, but they don't dig underneath that
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: first layer and think to the second layer, and the
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: third layer and the fourth layer of If you don't
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: address the underlying causes of these behaviors, they will continue forever.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: If you don't do something to help this person change
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: the way he thinks, he'll never change the way he behaves.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: So if you're letting him go every time he does
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: something bad, he's going to do worse and worse things
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: until you can't let him go because he's killed someone
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: and she just happened to be the victim of one
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: of those guys. And at the other end of it,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: women also don't think through if you if you think
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: everything is scary, regardless of whether it's violent or just insulting.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: If you think that the state has to protect you
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: from every little thing, you lose all of your rights too,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: and eventually the whole thing will explode into violence as
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: people resist what you've created. And we're sort of in
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: the middle of both right now. Thanks ladies. Yeh.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: To some degree, like I have no sympathy for the
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: older women who've been on board with the feminist bullshit
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: since long before it was imposed on them, But we're
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: a few generations into it now. And this chick, she
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: was born into this nonsense and.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: She had to do sorry for her.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: She had more than a fifty chance of just being
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: brainwashed into it in the first place. And it's like
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: an animal being led into the coliseum to be shot
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: through the heart by the by the fucking emperor. And
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: that's basically what happened. And like, to some degree, I'm like,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: I wish someone would have would have intervened and told her,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: you know, you're being alled to, But the chances were
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: pretty fucking slim that that would happen, And you know,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: the chances were pretty great that someone like her would
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: have been the kind of person who would have been
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: burned alive by some brother. It's you know, it's it's
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: just a matter of statistics. And as you know, as
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: much as I'm like, as much as I blame women
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: for voting all of this shit in, like I check,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: as young as her didn't vote shit into. I mean
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: I she was barely old enough to have voted for
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: any of this. And like, as much as I'm like, women,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: this is your fault, Like, it's not Hannah's fault, so
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: Alison or or Karen or Lauren's fault like there are
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: it's just like there are plenty of female athletes who
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: never wanted that, you know.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: To be competing in in with men.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, too, have been dominated and beaten the ship out
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: of by by these male athletes. Like, but we're in
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: a hell of a tightrope trying to try and trying
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: to blame women as a whole without blaming the few
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: uniticottons that didn't fucking want this, you know, Yeah, all
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: things considered, Let's try and consider all things, you know
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: I agree, all right, I got to move on to
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: the next story. But I got some super chats to
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: read out, So let us know what you guys think
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: about this one. In the comments, uh, cy cyberserk says,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: for two hundred kronas, I think a German science criminologist
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: is that the word said. Pyromaniacs and ex phibitionists are
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: much more dangerous than usually expected. They need a stronger
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: adrenaline kick every time. That's interesting. And then he gives
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: another two hundred cronas and says, a female pyromaniac killed
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: two women in a parking lot in Zurich, Switzerland over
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: the period of a couple of years. Profilos were, of
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: course looking for a male perpetrator. Yeah, that's uh the course.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: With maniacs, there's probably a dopamine connection, right. It's a
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: similar thing that occurs with addiction. There's often a dopamine connection,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: and you if you have an addiction to something that
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: you are doing to essentially get dopamine hits from your
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: own bodies production of dopamine, you do need a bigger
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: hit every time, basically because you start to build up
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: a tolerance to it. That's one of the reasons why
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: drugs that caused you you to overproduce dopamine are so addictive,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: and they interfere with your body's ability also uh to
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: produce and and detacked and used dopamine, and as a result,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: you end up being you know, twitchy or otherwise looking
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: like you are fidgety, can't stop moving, and stuff like that.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: You get essentially a whole set of behaviors that that
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: that revolve around UH. This the dysfunction caused by your
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: dopamine imbalance, and it never goes back to normal. Now
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: there's a significant difference between there's a significant difference between
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the chat mangk, You're wrong in terms
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: of addiction versus normal behavior. You do get, you do
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: get dopamine hits, and you do get you do treat
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: it like something that you have to have more and
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: more of every time. And in terms of normal behavior,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: where it motivates you to do, you know, good things
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: like cleaning your room or whatever, things that you take
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: satisfaction with, there is a significant difference. And it isn't
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: just something that happens with drugs. Drugs do have a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: higher damage rate than other forms of addiction, but it's
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: not something that you can discount. I guess that would
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: be the way to put it. Right, So, yeah, what
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: this individual, so what what? What he basically said about
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  Speaker 3: the these pyromaniacs and such is true, but it's not
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: the only it's not the only addiction that that happens
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  Speaker 3: with in terms of the women. And they were looking
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: for men in terms of the women committing the crime,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: and they were looking for men that did it. That's
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: where stereotyping turns out to be wrong most of the time.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: When a crime like that's committed and and there's destruction
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: and somebody gets caught, it's it's a guy. But that
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you should never listen to district the
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: description and look for a woman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well I gotta move on. So I'm
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: going to move on to the next story, because where
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: does a long sausage? So we got one more left.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Let us know what you guys think about this in
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: the comments. All right, So we have another passing And okay,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: so you know, I love movies and this is guy's
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: one of those character actors that you see him around,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: but he's not like a big, big guy. But I'm
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: a big fan of Udo Kierr So Udo kier the
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: prolific German actor renowned for his roles in over two
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: hundred films spanning cult classics in art house cinema. Died
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, November twenty third, at age eighty one in
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Palm Springs, California, as confirmed by his partner, artist Delbert
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: McBride Byrne born Udo Keerspy in Cologne amid World War
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: two bombings. Kierre discovered his passion for acting after moving
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: to London at eighteen and encountering director Reiner Werner Fastbender.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: In a twenty twenty four Variety interview, he equipped I
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: liked the attention, so I became an actor. His early
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: breakthrough came in Andy Warhol produced horror comedies, playing the
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: Inetley Monstrous Counts in Paul Morrissey's nineteen seventy three Flesh
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: for frankn Stein in nineteen seventy four Blood for Dracula.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Kier's career flours through extensive collaborations including Fastbenders, the station
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Master's Wife Lil Marlene, and the third Generation Gus van
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: Santz nineteen ninety one, My Own Private Idaho with River
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Phoenix and Canna Reeves, which secured his US foothold, and
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Lars von Trier's OUVR from Europa nineteen ninety one to
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Nymphomaniac Volume two twenty thirteen, alongside mainstream turns in Armageddon,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Blade and Ace Ventura Pet Detective. This is what a
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: lot of people know him is. I never saw Aspandura
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Pet Detective, but I've seen him in a bunch of
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: other stuff. He also appeared in Madonna's Sex Book and
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: videos like Erotica. Kier's recent work included a starring role
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: in Clever Mendonka's Philhos The Secret Agent twenty twenty five,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: which Von Wagner Mora's Best which won him at the
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Best Actor at Cannes. Settling in Los Angeles and Palm Springs,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: where he lived in a converted mid century library, he
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: became a festival staple, particularly at Palm Springs International Film Festival.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Tributes poured in, with Von Trier calling him a great
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: artist and a dear friend in Van Zandt remembering his
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: unique presence that elevated every scene. Ker's death marks the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: loss of a versatile icon. Who's Deadpaan Menace and Rye
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Charm defined generations of boundary pushing cinema. He was also
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: in Command and Conquer, a video game. I never played it,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: but he played one of the characters on that as well,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: so he's kind of all over the place. So anyway, yeah,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: he was in Armageddon in a daze. I often quote
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: him his character in Blade and yeah, I mean I
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: look just a little story to end on. I like
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Udo Kierre. I was always a big fan. He's right
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: up there with Jurgen Proc. Now do you guys know
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Yurgen Proc? Now he was in like he was in
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: in the Mouth of Madness and dos Boot he was
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: That's the thing he's mostly known for. So anyway, Uh,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: anybody want to say anything about do you guys know
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: him from any movies?
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like I've seen him in everything.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of those guys. He's one of those
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: you've seen.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: Him in the first person I thought of when you
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: said the link of his career was John Wayne. He's
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: he's like, he's been in everything. He's done every kind
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: of everything.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: He usually plays vampires and creepy dudes.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, usually usually he's the bad guy.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: He's a villain or he's a vampire creepy dude. But
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: but it just seems like one of the most familiar
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: faces out there.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, So go ahead, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, give you some quotes if if
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: you've got the time. Quote. The villain is the character
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: that people remember. End quote. True, not just in movies,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: but in real life. More so in real life than
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: in movies. The most famous person in any war is
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: the bugger who started it. Food for thought. Quote, I
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: tried all my life to be a normal person. End quote.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: Well maybe you should have been a villain a ouda
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: or quote. When I'm depressed and the weather is bad,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: I look up my page on IMDb, and I have
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: my coffee and feel better. There are even films on there.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know about. End quote. The same here. I
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: occasionally go to my entry on IMDb to see if
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: anyone's added anything, and I've beam with pride that they
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: have not. Quote. I have few friends. I can count
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: them on one hand. I go by myself to the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: cleaners and the supermarket, and I live alone with my dogs.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: That's him talking, not me, by the way. And yeah, based,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: but I guess I would say that quote normally. I
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: like my privacy in the high desert. All right, Well,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: extra Based, you've outdone me, mister kier The hermit powers
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: are strong with this one quote. There's actors and actresses
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: who I call trailers stars because their importance is expressed
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: by how big their trailers are. And then there are
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: real actors who are real good people. End quote. True facts, sir.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: That's the difference between an actor and a star. Actors
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: can transform into other people's stars. Just turn up as
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: themselves and read the lines and try not to trip
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: over the furniture. Speaking of which, quote, audition is the
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: worst thing. It's like cleaning furniture in a department store.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: End quote. I don't quite know what he means by that,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: because probably because I don't do auditions, the whole process
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: seems so destroying to me. So I'll take his word
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: for it that it's sole destroying in the same way
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: as cleaning furniture is in the department store. Quote. I
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: like to work with directors who write their own stories.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: End quote. Same. Moreover, I prefer it when that writer
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: director is me. Quote. My agent is a vampire, my
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: lawyer is a vampire. They're all vampires, but they don't
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: suck your blood. They take your money. Vampires are everywhere.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: It just depends what they're running after. Loll your boy.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: Your boy is painting quite the picture of what act
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: of why acting is not the glamorous bed of roses
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: is made out to me. Don't do it, kids, Write
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: your own material and get to work. We don't need
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: these fucking vampires anymore. Quote I don't wear gloves when
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: I work in the garden. End quote. I don't know
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: the context of that quote. He he was, he was
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: gardening was one of his hobbies. He was a very
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: avid gardener. So I like to think that that's a
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: metaphor for something, but not knowing what that's something is,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: I would also like to think that he's literally talking
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: about gardening. There therein is the essence of a profound
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: quote as a gentleman, when it when it works every
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: every every every year, each way. I I didn't know
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: anything about this chapter, to be honest, I couldn't have
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: put his name to his face until he died just now.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, I always enjoy looking into people's quotes
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: because it's nice to see how much you have in
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: common with those with those who are considered great men.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: It's also interesting to see how much you don't have
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: in common, and maybe even to make fun of them
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: for some of the silliest quotes they made. But it's
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: not cricket to be making fun of the dead, at
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: least not quite as soon as that, So I'll save
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: it for another day. Rick you don't.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: Care, yeah, German reasonably.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Good luck to you after that.
• 1:57:34
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• 1:57:58
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