Latest / The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast / Betting A Vulnerable NFL Week 6
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network,
- 0:13Speaker 1: or as I am officially renaming this podcast, not the
- 0:17Speaker 1: Favorites the Frustration. I am Shad Moman and I'm going
- 0:23Speaker 1: to be joined by professional Better Simon Hunter, who before
- 0:26Speaker 1: we came on said I am officially aunt Hilt Simon
- 0:31Speaker 1: say hello and buckle the fuck up brother. Hey guys,
- 0:36Speaker 1: all right, Simon, we got a lot to discuss. A reminder,
- 0:40Speaker 1: Simon Hunter is a professional better. He has joined us
- 0:43Speaker 1: every week on the pod and together we have entered
- 0:45Speaker 1: the Draft Kings Pro Football pick Up National Championship. We
- 0:49Speaker 1: will decide what picks he should put in and frankly, listen,
- 0:54Speaker 1: our heads are spinning right now, at least mine is.
- 0:58Speaker 1: And before we get to the recap, just a reminder,
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- 1:04Speaker 1: we need to communicate and if we like it and
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- 1:15Speaker 1: free Action Network coody. We will announce last week's winner
- 1:18Speaker 1: at the end of this show. Now here's a recap
- 1:22Speaker 1: for last week. We went two and three and we
- 1:24Speaker 1: are having all kinds of communication issues, Simon, because last
- 1:28Speaker 1: week we love the Vikings. We love the Ravens. Like
- 1:32Speaker 1: everyone was tweeting at us, like how much we love
- 1:35Speaker 1: the Vikings. How we were saying I thought Joe Burrow
- 1:38Speaker 1: would get killed by the Ravens. How the Ravens don't
- 1:41Speaker 1: play down to the competition. And yet on Sunday morning
- 1:45Speaker 1: at nine, I get a text and the Bengals and
- 1:49Speaker 1: the Seahawks are two over five picks. I don't understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:00Speaker 1: I basically like like I said to you before the pot,
- 2:04Speaker 1: like I was just in full tilt mode where I've
- 2:07Speaker 1: been running hot with my own picks, and I was
- 2:10Speaker 1: just I was just like, I'm so due for a
- 2:13Speaker 1: bad week these games that we end up going with.
- 2:16Speaker 1: It was mainly because of weather. I got a bunch
- 2:20Speaker 1: of like info that all the all these games are
- 2:22Speaker 1: gonna get a ton of rain. So it's like, we
- 2:25Speaker 1: really liked the Rams and I switched off of it
- 2:27Speaker 1: because of the QB switch and the weather. Everyone you know,
- 2:29Speaker 1: there's too much, there's too much variants in that. And
- 2:33Speaker 1: when it came to the Ravens and the Bengals, I
- 2:35Speaker 1: just thought, well, this will be easy if it's just
- 2:38Speaker 1: a game or all you have to do is stop
- 2:39Speaker 1: the run for the Bengals. This this, this must be
- 2:42Speaker 1: this must be an easy pick for the Bengals, and
- 2:44Speaker 1: the line kept coming down. So I feel like an
- 2:47Speaker 1: idiot because I got the I thought I was gonna
- 2:49Speaker 1: get number said on the show at getting the Ravens
- 2:51Speaker 1: at twelve and a half, and I think he closed
- 2:53Speaker 1: at eleven the Bengals. So yeah, like we were talking, uh,
- 2:59Speaker 1: everyone that's let's in the show that puts to their
- 3:01Speaker 1: picks in on Thursday, they did really well. All the
- 3:03Speaker 1: people hit us up there like, man, you guys killed
- 3:05Speaker 1: it this week, Like you guys did so good on
- 3:07Speaker 1: the show, and we did two and three. That's that.
- 3:10Speaker 1: That hurts. It hurts so much. But it's so interesting
- 3:14Speaker 1: because it speaks to something that I don't think a
- 3:18Speaker 1: lot of people would really believe happens, which is you're
- 3:22Speaker 1: a professional better you do this for a living, Like
- 3:26Speaker 1: it's possible to get in your own head even when
- 3:28Speaker 1: you have all the numbers in front of you, even
- 3:30Speaker 1: when everything says to you, do this, do this, Like
- 3:33Speaker 1: Sunday comes around and it is not easy to sort
- 3:36Speaker 1: of make these decisions in a vacuum when a lot
- 3:40Speaker 1: of other things that could lead to biases from your
- 3:44Speaker 1: experiences betting or just being a fan are going to
- 3:47Speaker 1: make you think about things differently. Yeah, honestly, I think
- 3:50Speaker 1: it's because of Twitter. I was never really on Twitter before,
- 3:52Speaker 1: like even last year. If I ever went on Twitter,
- 3:55Speaker 1: it was just literally posting our pics. Because I think
- 3:57Speaker 1: about like twenty fans and maybe found me last year
- 3:59Speaker 1: from the show, and they're the only ones that I
- 4:02Speaker 1: even ask me questions. We're now like, I'm on there
- 4:04Speaker 1: all the time and I'm hearing a lot of other
- 4:05Speaker 1: people's opinions and it's messing in my head. Like especially um,
- 4:10Speaker 1: there's another pick tournament we don't have to name, but
- 4:12Speaker 1: we won't name because we're not sponsored by him out
- 4:14Speaker 1: in the Desert, and those picks came out earlier than ours,
- 4:17Speaker 1: and I see that stuff and it really it's like,
- 4:20Speaker 1: holy crap. Me and Chat are really with the public
- 4:22Speaker 1: on a lot of these picks, and I really do,
- 4:24Speaker 1: like I'll bet with the public, but in these pick pools,
- 4:27Speaker 1: I hate you in the public because the usually doesn't
- 4:29Speaker 1: work out, and of course the public when five and
- 4:32Speaker 1: oh in these pick pools out in the desert last week,
- 4:35Speaker 1: like the most selected, and it is one of those
- 4:39Speaker 1: we're navigating, and it just stinks because me and you
- 4:41Speaker 1: both love the Giants in Miami, and I was just like,
- 4:45Speaker 1: I don't want to be killing myself riding these two
- 4:48Speaker 1: teams in the Lake games. Like I'd rather start good
- 4:50Speaker 1: at the one pms and then just close out with
- 4:53Speaker 1: the Browns and the Seattle. So like, I need to
- 4:56Speaker 1: push thing this side and just get used to the
- 4:58Speaker 1: dread I'm starting to. That's what these Sundays are gonna be.
- 5:02Speaker 1: But I'm still positive because it's like we're fourteen eleven
- 5:05Speaker 1: and we're not even at the halfway mark for our
- 5:07Speaker 1: pick pool, so I'm not too worried yet. Like the
- 5:10Speaker 1: guy who's ahead of us, he's only had by five,
- 5:13Speaker 1: so if we go five, you know, he goes on five.
- 5:15Speaker 1: We're literally tied with the guy as the leader of
- 5:17Speaker 1: this week. So that's why it's like each week, if
- 5:20Speaker 1: we keep avoiding these own five weeks and these one
- 5:22Speaker 1: in four weeks and our bad weeks or two and three,
- 5:24Speaker 1: and we can sprinkle in five and oh weeks what
- 5:26Speaker 1: you're hoping for this week, We're gonna be fine. You
- 5:29Speaker 1: know what I love about your brother. Right now, you
- 5:30Speaker 1: are showing real vulnerability, am I. You are you are,
- 5:38Speaker 1: You are in the thick of it with the rest
- 5:39Speaker 1: of us, and it's hard. It's hard to separate all
- 5:42Speaker 1: of the noise from the signals that really matter. I
- 5:46Speaker 1: almost feel like I've corrupted you by having you come
- 5:48Speaker 1: on and now you're on Twitter, and like you're getting
- 5:51Speaker 1: poisoned by the well, uh, you're poisoned by all this
- 5:55Speaker 1: smoke that is coming in um. But you're not wrong,
- 5:58Speaker 1: Like I think, I know. I think over the weekend,
- 6:01Speaker 1: not only did we go two and three, but like,
- 6:05Speaker 1: instead of taking the games that I loved on Tuesday
- 6:10Speaker 1: last week were the Browns, the Texans, the Giants, the Vikings,
- 6:17Speaker 1: and the Dolphins, how many of those games did I
- 6:20Speaker 1: end up betting on Thursday through Sunday two oh two?
- 6:28Speaker 1: And like I ended up betting like the Eagles Steelers
- 6:33Speaker 1: under twenty one in the first half. Oh God, actually,
- 6:36Speaker 1: like I like that over just because my whole reason
- 6:39Speaker 1: for liking the Eagles was that I thought the steel
- 6:42Speaker 1: is gonna come out sloppy after the bye week and
- 6:46Speaker 1: their defense. Did I mean the Eagles should not be
- 6:48Speaker 1: putting up that many points on that defense a little.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Did I know that that they had a rookie on
- 6:53Speaker 1: Pittsburgh that was gonna score four touchdowns? So that was
- 6:56Speaker 1: go one of those where I think that they missed
- 6:57Speaker 1: the field able to put the Eagles up one and
- 6:59Speaker 1: the Deils game down put a touchdown, and I go,
- 7:01Speaker 1: oh man, it's gonna one of those days for me
- 7:02Speaker 1: and chat huh. So it's one of those weeks where
- 7:06Speaker 1: like we were on the wrong side of a couple
- 7:08Speaker 1: of picks, but the ones we should have been on there,
- 7:10Speaker 1: we're gonna be no sweats for us. We missed on those.
- 7:12Speaker 1: That's what hurts. But that's what this week I'm looking
- 7:14Speaker 1: forward to because there's a lot of games that stick
- 7:16Speaker 1: out again here on Tuesday. All right, we'll listen, let's
- 7:18Speaker 1: let's talk about this games. We're gonna get our big
- 7:21Speaker 1: balls better the week we're gonna get that's one. And
- 7:27Speaker 1: now on the Giants. I was gonna say, which was
- 7:29Speaker 1: the Giants last week? Uh, we're gonna get our hornets
- 7:32Speaker 1: nest pick of the week, the one we are just
- 7:35Speaker 1: walking into a hornets nest. Well, right, Jesus Christ, we
- 7:40Speaker 1: we could have been five and oh this week different
- 7:43Speaker 1: ways it's so upsetting. All right, let us talk about
- 7:49Speaker 1: the first game on the board that we can talk about,
- 7:51Speaker 1: because obviously there's a Titan Texans game that we can't
- 7:54Speaker 1: talk about. There's no numbers available yet. You want the
- 7:58Speaker 1: I mean the early listeners listen to night the Bills
- 8:00Speaker 1: and the Titans play at night? All right? Let's okay, Yeah,
- 8:03Speaker 1: let's do that. You got the what the public and
- 8:07Speaker 1: everything like that are doing on the Action I don't
- 8:09Speaker 1: have it. I'm gonna look it up right now. Let me, Um,
- 8:13Speaker 1: it's a question what I'm looking at this? What did
- 8:15Speaker 1: you do? Hold on, Simon, hold on. I'm gonna do
- 8:17Speaker 1: what I should have done. I'm going to open the
- 8:19Speaker 1: Action Network app where I get all my data information.
- 8:21Speaker 1: It's a free app. You can download it and you'll
- 8:23Speaker 1: be able to see who the public goes on, who
- 8:26Speaker 1: the wise guys are on. You'll get the latest data
- 8:28Speaker 1: and information everything you need to really enjoy the games
- 8:31Speaker 1: from a variety of perspectives. Action Network App download for free.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Houston minute. Let's see that is week five. It's the
- 8:38Speaker 1: last game of week five, so we got Buffalo three
- 8:41Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Right now, it looks like, um,
- 8:47Speaker 1: the majority of the bets are on Buffalo, and the
- 8:49Speaker 1: majority of the money is on Buffalo. Of course, So
- 8:54Speaker 1: these COVID games, we all knew they were coming, and
- 8:57Speaker 1: it's been funny trying to adjust to him where it
- 9:00Speaker 1: seems like it's been beneficial for the favorites. I don't
- 9:04Speaker 1: know the exact how many games have been affected, but
- 9:06Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Patriots, that was a very noticeable game
- 9:10Speaker 1: or because the QB was out, the Chiefs had a
- 9:13Speaker 1: huge advantage and they probably would have lost that game
- 9:16Speaker 1: outright if Cam had played. Who knows, But we're looking
- 9:19Speaker 1: at another game of the Titans was not many people
- 9:21Speaker 1: know who's playing for the Titans. We don't know who's
- 9:23Speaker 1: missing from their team. And you can go and you
- 9:24Speaker 1: can look and see what starters won't be there because
- 9:27Speaker 1: of this whole COVID thing. And you have a Bills
- 9:30Speaker 1: team that this was a great trap spot for the Bills.
- 9:34Speaker 1: This is a look ahead because they're playing that they're
- 9:35Speaker 1: supposed to be playing the Chiefs on Thursday. Now that
- 9:37Speaker 1: game has moved the Monday still a huge game. Where
- 9:41Speaker 1: the Bills saw that game with Oakland against the Chiefs.
- 9:43Speaker 1: They see that the Chiefs are gonna be desperate now.
- 9:45Speaker 1: They need They need this win more than the Bills do.
- 9:48Speaker 1: So I'm a little worried to hear about the Bills
- 9:50Speaker 1: look ahead, and especially with all the money coming on
- 9:52Speaker 1: the Bills. I'm gonna take the Titans, but I don't
- 9:55Speaker 1: feel great about it tonight. But this is just one
- 9:57Speaker 1: of those games where I'm gonna take the points. Titans cleack,
- 10:00Speaker 1: keep games close, and I think they'll lose this game
- 10:01Speaker 1: by field goal. So I like that three and a half.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Do you know what our weekend did to me? Do
- 10:08Speaker 1: you know what? Not sticking to your guns? And I
- 10:13Speaker 1: I agree with you, Like I'm feeling a little vulnerable
- 10:17Speaker 1: with myself in that I used to have a very
- 10:21Speaker 1: clear opinion, like I bet against the big favorites, I
- 10:26Speaker 1: bet on short home dogs. I bet sort of the
- 10:32Speaker 1: teams that I thought were trending and being undervalued because
- 10:36Speaker 1: they aren't public teams that they didn't play in prime time.
- 10:39Speaker 1: And I've lost all of those principles the last couple
- 10:41Speaker 1: of weeks, and it screwed me up. And even last night,
- 10:45Speaker 1: you know we're taping this on Tuesday afternoon. Last night,
- 10:47Speaker 1: the Saints played the Chargers, and the Chargers were big dogs,
- 10:51Speaker 1: and like, of course I would have wanted to be
- 10:54Speaker 1: on the Chargers in that game. I think the Saints
- 10:56Speaker 1: have been overvalued all year, and I just didn't do it.
- 10:59Speaker 1: I texted a buddy, He's like, what should we do.
- 11:01Speaker 1: I'm like, I need a night off. I gotta get
- 11:03Speaker 1: my head. It's like I can't, like, I know I
- 11:06Speaker 1: want to be in the Chargers and like this same scenario,
- 11:11Speaker 1: Like it scares me to bet the Titans, even though
- 11:14Speaker 1: I know they are the right side. Yeah, I think,
- 11:18Speaker 1: especially if it listed in the show. That's why I
- 11:20Speaker 1: always talk about the best of the number gives you
- 11:21Speaker 1: peace of mind. When that Charges game we talked on Tuesday,
- 11:25Speaker 1: I got it like on Thursday. Maybe it was Friday
- 11:27Speaker 1: once injury reports came out at eight and a half
- 11:29Speaker 1: and eight. So when that game end up at seven
- 11:33Speaker 1: on Monday, I told you I didn't feel comfortable taken
- 11:35Speaker 1: the seven, just because I felt like the value was gone. Clearly,
- 11:38Speaker 1: it wasn't no matter what when we went to t
- 11:40Speaker 1: they were going to cover that seven. But that's why
- 11:43Speaker 1: I like, for you, I wouldn't get too too much
- 11:45Speaker 1: in your own head about it, just because this principles
- 11:48Speaker 1: you're talking about. There, there's always times in place when
- 11:51Speaker 1: to play those like a print like new principle is
- 11:54Speaker 1: for us as the Ravens as they just beat the
- 11:56Speaker 1: crap out of bad teams, even when the numbers are
- 11:58Speaker 1: saying that you should take the bad team. We talked
- 12:00Speaker 1: last week, this is what the Ravens are. They break
- 12:03Speaker 1: those numbers where they steam roll and the same situation
- 12:06Speaker 1: we talked about the Dallas. They should never be favored
- 12:09Speaker 1: by that many points against the team. So that's why
- 12:11Speaker 1: we like the Giants so much. Last week where it
- 12:13Speaker 1: just didn't make sense that number where it was no
- 12:16Speaker 1: one knows why it was so big. It was like, who,
- 12:18Speaker 1: Who's giving Dallas this much respect? So I'm with you, Bud,
- 12:22Speaker 1: like we'll we'll keep grinding away here. But it is
- 12:24Speaker 1: COVID year. That's why, like a lot of the principles
- 12:26Speaker 1: that you do use on a normal year there they
- 12:29Speaker 1: hold true every time for the most part. But there's
- 12:31Speaker 1: a lot of old rules you follow that you need
- 12:32Speaker 1: to break, especially right now. You know what, man, I'm
- 12:37Speaker 1: glad I have you buy my side for this. That's
- 12:40Speaker 1: what I think it would be misery just misery. I'm glad,
- 12:45Speaker 1: you know what. I almost feel like for someone like me,
- 12:48Speaker 1: this was almost like our first fight, and I feel
- 12:51Speaker 1: like we got through it. If those are our fights, Dad,
- 12:55Speaker 1: this is gonna be a very enjoyable relationship. I've had
- 12:58Speaker 1: like two massive aout with my wife in maybe we
- 13:05Speaker 1: started dating twenty eight years ago when we were in college,
- 13:13Speaker 1: and in twenty eight years of being together, I can
- 13:18Speaker 1: think of two massive fights that we had. One was
- 13:22Speaker 1: when her best friend started dating a guy, and after
- 13:26Speaker 1: the first time we all went out together, She's like,
- 13:29Speaker 1: what do you think. I'm like, oh, that guy's a douche.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Like we are never we are never going out with
- 13:35Speaker 1: them again. She's like, what are you talking about? Is
- 13:37Speaker 1: my best friend? Of course we're going to go out
- 13:38Speaker 1: with them again. I'm like, Stace, that is a bad guy.
- 13:42Speaker 1: I don't ever want to sit with him at a
- 13:44Speaker 1: dinner table again. And like it became like an argument
- 13:47Speaker 1: because she was like, what if we did this with
- 13:49Speaker 1: your friends blah blah blah blah blah blah. I'm like,
- 13:51Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I can't stand this guy. And um,
- 13:55Speaker 1: sure enough, they dated for like three months and then
- 13:57Speaker 1: he was a bad dude. They broke up. This second time,
- 14:00Speaker 1: my wife and I got in a massive fight. It
- 14:03Speaker 1: was when our first son was born, and my wife
- 14:10Speaker 1: and I had different opinions on this is personal, but
- 14:12Speaker 1: you'll anyone can appreciate this on breastfeeding. And I was like,
- 14:17Speaker 1: you got a breastfeed for as long as you can,
- 14:19Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm done with it and it's
- 14:21Speaker 1: my body and I'm like, nope, we gotta keep going.
- 14:24Speaker 1: And she's like, shut the funk up. Go to the
- 14:27Speaker 1: fucking drug store and buy some fucking formula. Uh. And
- 14:32Speaker 1: that was like a ten thirty at night. I remember
- 14:35Speaker 1: I jumped in a cab. We lived in the city.
- 14:37Speaker 1: I went to the store, I got the formula. I
- 14:39Speaker 1: came back and uh, it was the last we spoke
- 14:42Speaker 1: of it. And that was are your only two fights?
- 14:46Speaker 1: Those are like the two that I can remember. Like
- 14:48Speaker 1: where like we're not We're not like overly dramatic fighting.
- 14:56Speaker 1: People were pretty like, yeah, I'm like a snake man.
- 15:01Speaker 1: It's impossible to fight with me for real, Like I
- 15:02Speaker 1: can always kind of talk my way at the corner,
- 15:04Speaker 1: especially if I get caught with something. It's just like,
- 15:07Speaker 1: let's just move on. That's the past. What can you
- 15:09Speaker 1: do right? Oh yeah, totally. And I was always the
- 15:13Speaker 1: kid like when my mom would get mad, like I'd
- 15:15Speaker 1: be able to get out of it just like with
- 15:18Speaker 1: charm and a smile, and my sister would not be
- 15:20Speaker 1: able to when she gets so angry about it. Anyways,
- 15:23Speaker 1: this was our first fight, Simon, and now we're through it.
- 15:26Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Giants being I think two
- 15:28Speaker 1: and a half point favorites at home against the Washington
- 15:31Speaker 1: football team on our friends at DraftKings, and uh wow,
- 15:37Speaker 1: they've made it. They've made it interesting for us here
- 15:40Speaker 1: in the Washington Giants game of the Betsy of the
- 15:44Speaker 1: Money on Washington right now. Yeah, I'm shocked and moved
- 15:47Speaker 1: down that much. I know it opened at three and
- 15:49Speaker 1: a half um, so people must have word the cala
- 15:53Speaker 1: Allen's gonna be back for this game. I doubt people
- 15:55Speaker 1: would bet this if a thought Alex Smith was playing
- 15:57Speaker 1: because that that honest, he was truly painful to watch
- 16:01Speaker 1: last week. Alex Smith in that game. I'm happy for him,
- 16:04Speaker 1: like I bet on him for Comeback Player of the
- 16:06Speaker 1: Year and that's all you needed with him to take
- 16:07Speaker 1: pretty much a snap this season to win that, but
- 16:12Speaker 1: he really can't move on that leg right, And and
- 16:15Speaker 1: then the way the league is now, you need mobility.
- 16:18Speaker 1: You can't be a statue anywhere. You have to be
- 16:19Speaker 1: able to weave in and out of the pocket and
- 16:21Speaker 1: get around people. And I know the weather was bad
- 16:23Speaker 1: last week, but I would feel way way more comfortable
- 16:27Speaker 1: taking Washington here if I knew it was Kyle Allen
- 16:31Speaker 1: that would take in the Giants end. We talked last
- 16:34Speaker 1: week that was a make or break game for Daniel
- 16:36Speaker 1: Jones career, that that was the game that he really
- 16:38Speaker 1: needed to win and show up and prove that people
- 16:41Speaker 1: he is a starting quarterback. And he does what he does.
- 16:44Speaker 1: He got sacked, he fumbled, and they scored a touchdowf at.
- 16:48Speaker 1: All the kid does is have turnovers. And this is
- 16:51Speaker 1: one of those where early in the week, right now,
- 16:53Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go Washington if it's moved off
- 16:55Speaker 1: good numbers, it's moved off to three and a half
- 16:57Speaker 1: in the three, I think Washington win this game out
- 17:00Speaker 1: right if they go with Kyle Allen. So I'm gonna
- 17:01Speaker 1: back to the football team here. I agree with you.
- 17:04Speaker 1: I think the way that you look at this is
- 17:06Speaker 1: that you've got You've got a low and a high, right,
- 17:09Speaker 1: and the Washington football team such a low point, uh
- 17:14Speaker 1: with what happened last week, not looking very good, Alex
- 17:17Speaker 1: Smith getting sacked pretty much every time he dropped back.
- 17:20Speaker 1: And then the Giants who looked so good in what
- 17:23Speaker 1: has been the highest rated afternoon game for Fox in
- 17:28Speaker 1: five years. Okay, we all of a sudden they look competent.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Don't forget it's against a really bad team. And this
- 17:36Speaker 1: Washington football team, if they've been good at anything, their
- 17:38Speaker 1: defensive line has been halfway decent. I like Washington here,
- 17:43Speaker 1: I might like, let me ask you this is this
- 17:45Speaker 1: a money line play? Forget about the spread? Is this
- 17:48Speaker 1: a money line play? Because you've already lost the value
- 17:51Speaker 1: on the number. It's rare games fall on two or one.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I saw it with the Seahawks game,
- 17:56Speaker 1: everything like that, But this is one of those. Ride
- 17:59Speaker 1: Field have just taken them straight up. And that's insane.
- 18:03Speaker 1: We've said about the ratings. I saw something crazy where
- 18:07Speaker 1: the Sunday night game had double the views of the
- 18:11Speaker 1: NBA Finals, and it's really incredible to see. That's how
- 18:15Speaker 1: much I always knew there was a kind of the
- 18:18Speaker 1: big split. We've never seen it because these finals never
- 18:21Speaker 1: happened the same time as the NFL schedule. So I
- 18:23Speaker 1: know football is king. Like I've told you plenty of times,
- 18:25Speaker 1: the amount of people that take my picks on our
- 18:28Speaker 1: client lists compared to the other sports as tamesfold. But
- 18:31Speaker 1: to see it in actual time, real time, like Lebron
- 18:34Speaker 1: James maybe the greatest player ever to play. I know
- 18:36Speaker 1: we're both Michael Jordan fans, but you can't deny what
- 18:40Speaker 1: Lebron has done. It's it's one of the craziest things
- 18:42Speaker 1: we've ever seen. And the fact that their viewership was
- 18:46Speaker 1: half of a week five Seahawks Vikings game, it's it's
- 18:52Speaker 1: pretty insane. How much football really is king in this country.
- 18:55Speaker 1: So Falcons Vikings, I almost feel like Matt Mitchell should
- 19:01Speaker 1: be playing. I want you to play a little song here.
- 19:04Speaker 1: I can see clearly now the rain is gone. I
- 19:07Speaker 1: can see clear the rain. Let's go. I can see
- 19:13Speaker 1: all in the Falcons Vikings game. The bet to nine
- 19:22Speaker 1: of the money on Vikings right now. Obviously very early,
- 19:25Speaker 1: but I will say this. Chris Raybon wrote an incredible
- 19:28Speaker 1: story that is up on Action network dot Com. Right now.
- 19:31Speaker 1: That was so prescient about how a t S record
- 19:35Speaker 1: is really a great indicator of whether or not you
- 19:38Speaker 1: are a good coach. And dan Quinn was a horrible coach,
- 19:41Speaker 1: horrible against the spread. And he breaks down sort of
- 19:44Speaker 1: all the reasons why there's very specific betting stat is
- 19:47Speaker 1: a really thoughtful way to look at success for coaches,
- 19:49Speaker 1: um and we already know that. The week before Stuck,
- 19:52Speaker 1: he wrote this great story at Action Network about betting
- 19:55Speaker 1: on teams after their coaches fired. Right now, you've got
- 19:58Speaker 1: a Vikings team that show well on Sunday night against
- 20:02Speaker 1: you know, the cardiac kid Seahawks, and the Falcons team
- 20:05Speaker 1: that just lost their coach. The only question to me, Simon,
- 20:10Speaker 1: is do we wait to get the best of the number,
- 20:12Speaker 1: because right now Atlanta is a three point dog in Minnesota. Yeah.
- 20:17Speaker 1: And I think back to your dan quin point. It's
- 20:19Speaker 1: more that remember where he came from. He he had
- 20:22Speaker 1: helped build a legion of boom in Seattle, and so
- 20:26Speaker 1: he went from there. He went to Atlanta and he
- 20:28Speaker 1: had Cayl shaneas off offensive coordinator who took i think
- 20:31Speaker 1: took the team to the Super Bowl. And he the owner,
- 20:36Speaker 1: Arthur Blank We joked every week we could not believe
- 20:38Speaker 1: he was a find the guy, and it was just
- 20:39Speaker 1: crazy he built up that much leeway with the with
- 20:43Speaker 1: the owner just because he got to that team to
- 20:44Speaker 1: the super Bowl, even though they lost in legendary fashion. Um,
- 20:50Speaker 1: how do you not like a Landa here? This is
- 20:52Speaker 1: like a perfect bil situation, especially now you just said
- 20:56Speaker 1: all that money is coming in on Minnesota, Like I
- 21:00Speaker 1: many times on here when you talk about that money,
- 21:01Speaker 1: that's Parley money, that's teaser money, that's all these things
- 21:05Speaker 1: that the bookmakers need broken. And like last week the
- 21:09Speaker 1: Raiders were a big breaker of teasers. Money line parlay
- 21:11Speaker 1: is a bunch of different things like that. This feels
- 21:13Speaker 1: like a good good spot here with Falcons. Everyone's down
- 21:18Speaker 1: on them, Minniester, like you just had played a hell
- 21:21Speaker 1: of a game last week. They should have won that
- 21:22Speaker 1: fourth and tent buyer Wilson was incredible. Um, I just
- 21:28Speaker 1: think people are forgetting that Matt Ryan. He's looked bad
- 21:31Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks here, but it's one of
- 21:33Speaker 1: those where you get rid of a coach and it's
- 21:34Speaker 1: just a weightlifted off the team. And we saw that
- 21:36Speaker 1: Houston where the whole team played well last week for Houston,
- 21:38Speaker 1: even if Romer Camel is a crappy coach and we're
- 21:40Speaker 1: gonna be able to fade him the rest of the season.
- 21:43Speaker 1: The first game, I do feel really comfortable taking these
- 21:45Speaker 1: teams after they fired their coach. So I'm with you
- 21:47Speaker 1: on the on the Falcons. We'll wait to get back
- 21:49Speaker 1: to three and a half. Yeah, that's that's the only thing.
- 21:53Speaker 1: We just gotta wait. We just gotta wait until there's
- 21:55Speaker 1: a better number. But I'm gonna take the case, all right,
- 22:00Speaker 1: all right, I like having the Falcon on our list. Yeah,
- 22:03Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you. Maybe I will too. Uh,
- 22:09Speaker 1: all right, my favorite team, the Chicago Bears, in case
- 22:12Speaker 1: you haven't noticed the World championship banner over my shoulder
- 22:15Speaker 1: for anyone who's watching our videos, are getting seventy of
- 22:19Speaker 1: the money. Uh. This line has moved from Bears plus
- 22:23Speaker 1: three to Bears plus two and a half of the
- 22:26Speaker 1: beats of the Beats coming in and the Panthers um
- 22:30Speaker 1: Bears now two and a half point dogs on the
- 22:33Speaker 1: road at Resurgent Carolina. You know what this is right now,
- 22:39Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. This game is a Hornets nest.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I'm walking to a fucking Hornets nest. All right, now'll
- 22:45Speaker 1: be my companion and let me explain to you why
- 22:48Speaker 1: you've got a Bears team that one on Thursday night
- 22:51Speaker 1: and against the Bucks in dramatic fashion, and a Panther's
- 22:55Speaker 1: team that is now won three in a row. And
- 22:57Speaker 1: it's starting to show, like what those of us like
- 22:59Speaker 1: you and I who had been on the Panthers from
- 23:01Speaker 1: the beginning, they're very well coached. Teddy Bridgewater a k a.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Teddy covers like, this is a team to be reckoned with.
- 23:10Speaker 1: This is one of those where you said seventy of
- 23:12Speaker 1: the money is coming in on the Bears lines moved
- 23:14Speaker 1: from three to two and a half. Wow, Yeah, I
- 23:17Speaker 1: love the Bears here. This is like another opportunity where, yeah,
- 23:22Speaker 1: the Panthers have looked really good, but let's look at
- 23:24Speaker 1: the team's defenses they looked good against and how they've
- 23:27Speaker 1: done it. And we saw the Panthers Falter was against
- 23:32Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, like a good defense that we just saw
- 23:35Speaker 1: against the Bears, and the Bears played pretty well against
- 23:37Speaker 1: on the thurs and it, yeah, it was sloppy at times,
- 23:39Speaker 1: and the referee shure definitely did help the Bears at times,
- 23:42Speaker 1: but I guess the professionals are thinking here that the
- 23:47Speaker 1: same way I'm so. I'm looking at that the Bears defense,
- 23:51Speaker 1: it is just so good that I think they'll be
- 23:53Speaker 1: able to stop this Panthers often, especially in the sense
- 23:57Speaker 1: that Teddy is really good everyone he's a dog. I
- 24:01Speaker 1: forget the Star Wars. I think it's like he's eighteen
- 24:03Speaker 1: and four and nineteen and four covering as a dog.
- 24:06Speaker 1: And I don't know if people are thinking themselves like
- 24:11Speaker 1: you were just saying, the Panthers keep covering their three now,
- 24:13Speaker 1: so so they're thinking themselves this we'll keep going. But
- 24:17Speaker 1: it's hard a young team like the Panthers that went
- 24:19Speaker 1: four in a row. So I'm gonna back the veteran
- 24:22Speaker 1: QB on the Bears and the veteran defense of the
- 24:24Speaker 1: Bears to go down to North Carolina and get a
- 24:27Speaker 1: win here. And I like that we're getting two and
- 24:30Speaker 1: a half. Still, I love this Bears team right now
- 24:33Speaker 1: in this game. Yeah, I think we're the number one
- 24:37Speaker 1: Bear podcast outside of Chicago, so we have to be
- 24:41Speaker 1: the biggest backers of the Bears in the history of
- 24:45Speaker 1: It's insane. Do you know who we don't. I don't
- 24:49Speaker 1: want to talk about this next game. Uh and right now,
- 24:51Speaker 1: by the way, I feel like we are we We
- 24:54Speaker 1: love Washington, we love the Falcons, we love the Bears.
- 24:57Speaker 1: This is what makes for misery. This is why we
- 24:59Speaker 1: wake up on Sunday morning and start texting each other
- 25:02Speaker 1: and saying, why don't we take the Seahawks. That seems
- 25:05Speaker 1: like a good idea, But all right, let's yeah. Well
- 25:08Speaker 1: I'm scary we're on three road dogs right now, but yeah,
- 25:12Speaker 1: we'll keep moving. By the way, that's the wise guy side.
- 25:15Speaker 1: I know you know we're not doing anything wrong. It's
- 25:18Speaker 1: not a listen, all right, Lions minus three and a
- 25:21Speaker 1: half against the Jaguars, can we skip this game? Like?
- 25:24Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your number. And by the way,
- 25:26Speaker 1: I want to get your numbers. I forgot to ask you,
- 25:28Speaker 1: like your numbers on the games we've talked about so far,
- 25:31Speaker 1: But like Lions Jags, I guess I want to hear
- 25:34Speaker 1: your number, but I want nothing to do with either
- 25:35Speaker 1: of these teams. Yeah, and it's it's one of those
- 25:39Speaker 1: games where I like the jag and I think the
- 25:42Speaker 1: values on the Jack side, but it's hard to take
- 25:45Speaker 1: the Jaguars if they're gonna be a down Josh Allen
- 25:48Speaker 1: their best d N and they're gonna be out a
- 25:50Speaker 1: linebacker and not a corner. So I'd wait on the
- 25:54Speaker 1: injury forward this one. And I'm with you, like I
- 25:56Speaker 1: don't want to backmap for Tressure. Everything we've seen from them,
- 25:58Speaker 1: he's the same, same with these other coaches I've been fired.
- 26:01Speaker 1: It feels like he's just a dead man walking. And
- 26:03Speaker 1: we'll wait for the lines to fire him and then
- 26:05Speaker 1: we'll back them that fine week once he's gone, because
- 26:07Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a good coach. And I
- 26:11Speaker 1: like the way that Jaguars played against Houston. The their
- 26:14Speaker 1: kicker really kind of messed up that game for them,
- 26:16Speaker 1: and they were they were just in throw mode. And
- 26:19Speaker 1: we well, we've watching the Jaguars. They need to run
- 26:21Speaker 1: with that kid Robinson to being games and you could
- 26:23Speaker 1: run on the lines. So I'll put this on the side,
- 26:27Speaker 1: and I would wait to see what the injury report is.
- 26:29Speaker 1: But at the end of the week, because you have
- 26:30Speaker 1: to make sure that Jaguars have these guys back healthier.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Us their defense can't stop anybody, all right, real quickly,
- 26:36Speaker 1: give me your numbers on Washington, New York Falcons, Vikings, Bears, Panthers,
- 26:43Speaker 1: so Washington. I had this at plus one for Washington,
- 26:47Speaker 1: like I just made them like it pretty much as
- 26:49Speaker 1: a pick. But I have it as if Alex Smith's playing,
- 26:53Speaker 1: so like, that's why I don't feel great taking where
- 26:55Speaker 1: if if Kyle Allen's playing or even Haskins, I'd have
- 26:58Speaker 1: them at minus one. And the Falcons game, that's the
- 27:03Speaker 1: thing we're not We're not getting the best of the
- 27:05Speaker 1: number because I had this set three. That's what I
- 27:07Speaker 1: thought this should just be. I thought, this is just
- 27:09Speaker 1: like a classic home team minus three with Minnesota, because
- 27:14Speaker 1: we all know Minnesota's defense is suspect. And the tough
- 27:20Speaker 1: part with me doing these lines right now is that
- 27:23Speaker 1: um so much changes from week to week with all
- 27:28Speaker 1: these injuries we've been going through, like the Dak Prescott
- 27:31Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook now is out for the Vikings. Like every
- 27:34Speaker 1: week I've tried to been updating. It's been really hard
- 27:36Speaker 1: because you're you're taking numbers of these players that are
- 27:38Speaker 1: filling in from you know, a year or two ago,
- 27:41Speaker 1: where it depends on the season. So it's been definitely
- 27:43Speaker 1: been tough with all the injuries, and then uh, there's Panthers.
- 27:53Speaker 1: I had a pick, just to straight up pick. I
- 27:56Speaker 1: think that the line they put up early was just
- 27:59Speaker 1: because they assumed most people would be coming in on
- 28:02Speaker 1: the Panthers, just because they, like you said, they've been
- 28:04Speaker 1: playing so well and it is shocking here the money
- 28:08Speaker 1: is coming on the Bears. I'm happy to ride the
- 28:10Speaker 1: sharp So that's that's a good side to be on.
- 28:13Speaker 1: We got the Browns visiting the Steelers plus three and
- 28:17Speaker 1: a half. This is a burn burner of brain twisting enigma.
- 28:26Speaker 1: The Steelers have not looked good. The Browns have won
- 28:29Speaker 1: four in a row. Am I right to think? I
- 28:33Speaker 1: like getting the hook? Yeah, you're stepping in it. That's
- 28:37Speaker 1: why it feels like a huge trap. As someone that's
- 28:40Speaker 1: back the Browns now for I feel like it's like
- 28:43Speaker 1: three or four weeks like you just said, and these
- 28:47Speaker 1: other weeks we're going to get value on the Browns
- 28:49Speaker 1: because people still were unsure about them, so we kept
- 28:51Speaker 1: getting the best of the number. And I think here
- 28:55Speaker 1: the way the Pittsburgh matches up against the Browns, I
- 28:59Speaker 1: think it's gonna catch up to the Browns. I think
- 29:00Speaker 1: we're gonna see you on those classic Baker games. Because
- 29:03Speaker 1: Pittsburgh defense played like crap against the Eagles, and I
- 29:06Speaker 1: think this will be a big rebound game for Pittsburgh's defense.
- 29:09Speaker 1: So I'm fine with taking Pittsburgh minus three and a
- 29:12Speaker 1: half minus four. Um, I would wait on that line
- 29:15Speaker 1: because I do think the public will keep coming on
- 29:17Speaker 1: the Browns and I'll get down to three. Well, what
- 29:21Speaker 1: I'm saying is you're saying you want to take Pittsburgh.
- 29:25Speaker 1: I was thinking him, I want to take the Browns.
- 29:28Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm saying. You're stepping in it,
- 29:29Speaker 1: thinking they're doing you a little favor giving you the
- 29:31Speaker 1: three and a half of the hook. I think it's
- 29:33Speaker 1: a little trap that you're saying. Oh, I see what
- 29:35Speaker 1: you're saying. You're saying, wait and maybe take the Steelers
- 29:39Speaker 1: at three. Yeah, I like the Steeler side, all right,
- 29:43Speaker 1: I don't. We're not taking this game for the for
- 29:46Speaker 1: the contest. This feels by the way, cut to Sunday morning. Am,
- 29:54Speaker 1: We've got the Browns. We've got the Browns like plus
- 29:57Speaker 1: two and a half. That interesting, That is exactly what's
- 30:01Speaker 1: gonna happen. Uh Cincinnati visiting Indie Joe Burrow going to
- 30:06Speaker 1: visit Philip Rivers, the old man and the young man.
- 30:09Speaker 1: The Bengals are eight point dogs, getting a lot of
- 30:13Speaker 1: money against this cold steam that has just not looked
- 30:15Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, tough spot for Joe you just got
- 30:20Speaker 1: when you got the crackticked out of him in Baltimore.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Now I've got to go to a cold steam who
- 30:25Speaker 1: there if their defense gets healthy, if Leonard's back and
- 30:29Speaker 1: they're all firing, they might kill him again. That old
- 30:31Speaker 1: line won't be able to block this colds front. So
- 30:36Speaker 1: I can see why the public is coming in earlier here.
- 30:38Speaker 1: They think it's a good bounce back spot for Joe
- 30:41Speaker 1: and it's a lot of points for Philip Rivers to
- 30:43Speaker 1: be laying. So yeah, I wouldn't put this in the competition,
- 30:47Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna take the cold side in
- 30:48Speaker 1: this one. You are you know what? I feel that too.
- 30:53Speaker 1: It's a big but I feel it. I feel like
- 30:55Speaker 1: I feel like a week ago this might have been
- 30:57Speaker 1: ten or like you say, they covered last week the Bengals,
- 31:02Speaker 1: this this might have dropped all the way down to seven,
- 31:04Speaker 1: especially after the way the Colts played last week. Because
- 31:07Speaker 1: we talked last week, we went into fade Rivers because
- 31:09Speaker 1: we were saying, this guy's do for a crap game.
- 31:11Speaker 1: We know he's not as good as the record indicates.
- 31:14Speaker 1: And this is more of a play on the Colts
- 31:17Speaker 1: defense that Frank Reich. He's good off the loss um
- 31:23Speaker 1: the Bengals, the way their old line is shaped, they
- 31:27Speaker 1: can just get beat really easy by good ed rogishers.
- 31:30Speaker 1: And I'm with you this is this is a big number,
- 31:34Speaker 1: but I'm cool with taking a hum team like like
- 31:37Speaker 1: the Colts. Here mindus eight, just making a note, I'm
- 31:41Speaker 1: just writing it down. Can you guys hear the rain
- 31:44Speaker 1: pounding against my window? It is I don't know what
- 31:47Speaker 1: it's like in in South Jersey for you, Simon, but
- 31:51Speaker 1: it is ugly and rain here in central Connecticut. You know,
- 31:55Speaker 1: the kind of rain that would make you rethink everything
- 31:57Speaker 1: about what you want to bet on a Sunday morning.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Ravens seven and a half point road favorites at Philadelphia.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Oh God, here I am again. I don't want to
- 32:10Speaker 1: do it. I mean, of course, you gotta take the
- 32:12Speaker 1: Eagles seven and a half home dog should have covered
- 32:15Speaker 1: last week. They didn't. The Ravens just blew, just destroyed
- 32:19Speaker 1: a team in their own division at home, but I
- 32:23Speaker 1: can't do it. It's the Ravens beat up bad teams.
- 32:26Speaker 1: As an Eagles fan, we have no doubt we're a
- 32:28Speaker 1: bad team. We have a really good d line. I
- 32:31Speaker 1: still think Went is a good quarterback. We have no
- 32:33Speaker 1: offensive line. We we we are the worst linebacking team
- 32:38Speaker 1: in the NFL. Without a doubt. I as an Eagles fan,
- 32:41Speaker 1: we this is the worst linebacking corps I've ever had
- 32:43Speaker 1: in my entire life. And every like my numbers are
- 32:48Speaker 1: telling me I should take the Eagles. I have this
- 32:50Speaker 1: at six, and being a professional, this is a spot
- 32:54Speaker 1: you take the Eagles. But I can't do it. I
- 32:58Speaker 1: can't put the competition here. I'm gonna probably end up
- 33:00Speaker 1: on the Ravens. But I don't like it that it's
- 33:03Speaker 1: seven and a half. It's really it's really a good
- 33:06Speaker 1: number that Vegas put up. It's a great number that
- 33:09Speaker 1: will entice everybody. And I'm just disappointed that, like, you know,
- 33:14Speaker 1: you're getting two points of value here and you're letting
- 33:18Speaker 1: a motion get in the way. I am, but there's
- 33:20Speaker 1: times where I gotta fade in my computer because it's
- 33:22Speaker 1: like it doesn't get it. It doesn't get the human
- 33:25Speaker 1: element of the game. It's just data and it's just numbers.
- 33:29Speaker 1: But I'm with you, like, this is the smart place
- 33:32Speaker 1: the Eagles here, But I just don't want to stand
- 33:34Speaker 1: in front of the Ravens train. You can run on
- 33:36Speaker 1: the Eagles and that's all the Ravens do, So it
- 33:39Speaker 1: just feels like a bad, bad spot for the Eagles. Simon,
- 33:42Speaker 1: this is the bet your balls pick of the week. There,
- 33:49Speaker 1: You're insane. That is true, my friend, But I feel like, listen,
- 33:54Speaker 1: maybe we're not going to put it in the competition.
- 33:56Speaker 1: I can guarantee you I will be on the Eagles
- 34:00Speaker 1: come Sunday. You know why because the money right now
- 34:04Speaker 1: is coming in on the Ravens. So this number is
- 34:06Speaker 1: gonna go up, and the bets are going to come
- 34:08Speaker 1: in on the Ravens because everyone has been watching the
- 34:10Speaker 1: Ravens blow everybody out except for the Chiefs, the Eagles
- 34:13Speaker 1: struggling every single time there's a big game. By Sunday,
- 34:18Speaker 1: I can guarantee you the percentage of bets on the
- 34:21Speaker 1: Ravens as a road favorite will be north of if
- 34:24Speaker 1: you are getting north of eight percent of the money
- 34:26Speaker 1: as a road favorite, especially a big road favorite, which
- 34:29Speaker 1: meaning the bets are coming in on the Eagles, on
- 34:33Speaker 1: the whole team. That is an automatic play for me.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I don't care how bad they are. I don't care
- 34:37Speaker 1: what I've seen. This is what I'm talking about. We
- 34:40Speaker 1: are letting what we're seeing get in the way of
- 34:43Speaker 1: your computer. And now it's saying I don't want to
- 34:46Speaker 1: fade my computer. I don't want to I I I
- 34:49Speaker 1: am not going to fade your computer. And I would
- 34:53Speaker 1: be with you in a normal year that wasn't COVID you.
- 34:56Speaker 1: Everything you just said is so true. But like I
- 35:00Speaker 1: keep trying to talk to the shows, those numbers you
- 35:02Speaker 1: can't really go off. Like last week we were on
- 35:04Speaker 1: the Cardinals. They're probably getting like nine of the money
- 35:07Speaker 1: on the road. Against the Jets they covered by two touchdowns.
- 35:10Speaker 1: So it's like I'm with you, and like I'm gonna
- 35:14Speaker 1: be betting the Eagles. That's what I'm saying. I'm betting
- 35:16Speaker 1: the Eagles, um, and I hate myself for it, But
- 35:19Speaker 1: to anyone listening out there, I would just take the Ravens.
- 35:22Speaker 1: So you're not like me and Chad. You're not gonna
- 35:23Speaker 1: be miserable. And some days it's a tough signing misery
- 35:30Speaker 1: loves company. You laid it out for me. There's nothing
- 35:34Speaker 1: else needs to be. All right, let's go to the
- 35:36Speaker 1: last of our are the last of our early games
- 35:39Speaker 1: or last of our one PM games? Um, one of
- 35:42Speaker 1: these crazy scheduling quirks. We've got the Broncos and the
- 35:46Speaker 1: Patriots Patriots eight and a half. Uh, Patriots part of
- 35:51Speaker 1: part of this sort of COVID indecision rescheduling quirkiness. What
- 35:58Speaker 1: do you think here? This is? This is huge for
- 36:02Speaker 1: the Patriots that they might be able to get all
- 36:04Speaker 1: these guys back off COVID before this game, Like they
- 36:06Speaker 1: might be able to get Cam back, they might be
- 36:08Speaker 1: able to get killed Gilmore back. And if this is
- 36:11Speaker 1: in our competition at this line and Drew Lock is
- 36:14Speaker 1: still out, this is waly an automatic way from me.
- 36:16Speaker 1: The Patriots, they just got blown out on the road.
- 36:20Speaker 1: They've had I mean it feels like a month but
- 36:23Speaker 1: a week to prepare now an extra week to prepare
- 36:26Speaker 1: for this team. Uh. This will be a big public
- 36:30Speaker 1: bet with the Patriots, but I'm gonna back Belichick here.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna take them as well. Yeah, I don't care
- 36:37Speaker 1: that it's public. I like the Patriots in this spot.
- 36:40Speaker 1: And I've never been afraid of backing the Patriots is
- 36:42Speaker 1: big favorites. And that's also, by the way, something I
- 36:45Speaker 1: think that has been getting in my head, like backing
- 36:47Speaker 1: big favorites all of a sudden became so in vogue
- 36:49Speaker 1: that like I started losing my principles again. It's tough
- 36:58Speaker 1: for that. If this game is played, we're taking the paths.
- 37:02Speaker 1: That's all the rest to it. I'm all right, let's
- 37:06Speaker 1: go on, let's go onto the lake games. We got
- 37:07Speaker 1: a Jets Dolphins game. Uh, it looks like this game
- 37:12Speaker 1: is a four or five game. What do we see
- 37:15Speaker 1: in the Dolphins are eight point favorites. What kind of
- 37:19Speaker 1: world are we living in where the Miami Dolphins are
- 37:21Speaker 1: suddenly eight point favorites. We are living in a world
- 37:24Speaker 1: where the New York Jets, for some reason, still have
- 37:27Speaker 1: their head coach even though, uh, their quarterback is clearly
- 37:30Speaker 1: a flame out and isn't really playing. And what did
- 37:36Speaker 1: what did I text you on Sunday? Well, you want
- 37:38Speaker 1: to take the Cardinals out? You said you like your
- 37:40Speaker 1: numbers like this, And all I said back was Joe Flacco,
- 37:44Speaker 1: Joe fucking Flacca. And it's another one of those if
- 37:48Speaker 1: he's playing against for the Jets here, I'm more than
- 37:51Speaker 1: happy to take this number for the Dolphins. I know
- 37:53Speaker 1: it's a divisional game and it's a huge number, but
- 37:58Speaker 1: that that's how much of a downgrade I really think
- 38:01Speaker 1: Flacco is. I just do not think that man should
- 38:03Speaker 1: be playing the NFL anymore. And the Jets if if
- 38:09Speaker 1: they get Donald back, I don't hate it. I wouldn't
- 38:12Speaker 1: put the competition because I just don't want to back
- 38:14Speaker 1: the Jets. But like we always keep saying that there's
- 38:17Speaker 1: no teams going own sixteen against the spread, eventually Vegas
- 38:21Speaker 1: is gonna make this line so high that they're gonna
- 38:23Speaker 1: catch up and cover a couple of these games. So
- 38:26Speaker 1: if you're taking the Dolphins here, you're taking them after
- 38:30Speaker 1: an incredible game like the one of the It could
- 38:32Speaker 1: people end up playing on the biggest flute games of
- 38:34Speaker 1: the year where they literally dominated the forty nine yars
- 38:38Speaker 1: by like thirty thirty points or twenty four points, just
- 38:41Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed them. So I don't like taking the Dolphins here,
- 38:46Speaker 1: but I would take them if it's Flacco again, because
- 38:48Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna keep fading Flacco as long
- 38:50Speaker 1: as he's the starter. Yeah, I can't argue with you, Like,
- 38:54Speaker 1: and you said that the other day and I totally
- 38:56Speaker 1: didn't listen to you. And we probably should have put
- 38:58Speaker 1: the Cardinals in instead of you know, since a Natty
- 39:01Speaker 1: but uh or the Eagles. That was just the Eagle.
- 39:06Speaker 1: I can't even talk about it. Um, alright, So all right,
- 39:09Speaker 1: we'll keep them on the list. We'll keep them on
- 39:11Speaker 1: the list. I love Miami. I love Brian Flores as
- 39:13Speaker 1: a coach. I think they play really hard. You've seen
- 39:16Speaker 1: the effort week to week. Like they are a team
- 39:18Speaker 1: that gets better. They are a to a playmaker away
- 39:23Speaker 1: from becoming a legit playoff contender. Like obviously they're not
- 39:26Speaker 1: gonna get there with Fitzpatrick, but um they are. They
- 39:29Speaker 1: are a playmaker away from becoming a seriously dangerous team.
- 39:34Speaker 1: All right, now, we got a good one late Sunday afternoon,
- 39:39Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers one and a half point dogs on
- 39:42Speaker 1: the road at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I feel like
- 39:46Speaker 1: this is where we finally get a chance to see
- 39:48Speaker 1: like who's for real? Right? Are the Bucks for real?
- 39:51Speaker 1: Is Tom Brady the guy who through five touchdowns against
- 39:53Speaker 1: the Chargers? Is he the guy who forgot it was
- 39:56Speaker 1: forthdown against the Bears. Is Aaron Rodgers going in against
- 39:59Speaker 1: the defense that is finally good that he doesn't automatically
- 40:02Speaker 1: get to light up like you had earlier in the year.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Your take, Simon Hunter, This this is definitely one of
- 40:11Speaker 1: those you put your balls on the table games. The
- 40:15Speaker 1: whole public will be coming in on the Packers here,
- 40:18Speaker 1: especially the bets on the Packers right now. Easy bet
- 40:24Speaker 1: on the bucks here. I know people are going to
- 40:26Speaker 1: wait and see what the deal is with the receivers.
- 40:28Speaker 1: But like you were just talking, these these big road favorites,
- 40:33Speaker 1: especially when they have a lot of the public money
- 40:35Speaker 1: on them, weird stuff is just gonna happen. And what
- 40:39Speaker 1: the way I'm looking at is that you just made
- 40:41Speaker 1: a joke and made fun of Tom Brady, which you
- 40:45Speaker 1: don't think Tom Brady's here and that stuff. The guy
- 40:47Speaker 1: is on Twitter posting memes of himself. So I really
- 40:53Speaker 1: really like the bucking years here, and I'm hoping this
- 40:57Speaker 1: gets up to plus three with the Bucketeer, especially if
- 40:59Speaker 1: the but keeps coming in, It's up to two and
- 41:01Speaker 1: a half of some books. Don't don't overthink this one.
- 41:04Speaker 1: This is the same where the Chiefs, like these teams
- 41:06Speaker 1: just lose random games throughout the year. No, no team's
- 41:09Speaker 1: going sixteen and o fourteen and two, Like it's it's rare.
- 41:13Speaker 1: We're more than one team can go better than thirteen
- 41:15Speaker 1: and three. So I like this for a letdown spot
- 41:18Speaker 1: for the Packers. I'm gonna back the Buccaneers here. I
- 41:21Speaker 1: love it. I agree with you. I'm moving our bet
- 41:23Speaker 1: your Balls of the Week pick from the Eagles to
- 41:26Speaker 1: the box A reminder A reminder review the podcast using
- 41:32Speaker 1: the phrase, Simon says, we need to communicate, and I
- 41:34Speaker 1: would say, I think we're communicating much better. And I
- 41:36Speaker 1: think we've opened a dialogue that on Sunday morning is
- 41:39Speaker 1: going to make this really really valuable. If we like
- 41:41Speaker 1: your review, we will randomly choose it. You will win
- 41:43Speaker 1: a free Action Network hoodie. Here's the thing. We need
- 41:46Speaker 1: to figure out better timing on Sunday morning, because, uh,
- 41:50Speaker 1: we do an Action Network live pregame show that goes
- 41:53Speaker 1: on at eleven, and we usually from ten to eleven. Like,
- 41:57Speaker 1: everybody's on the show. It's me, it's Chris Raybond, it's
- 41:59Speaker 1: Matt Free Minutes, John Corner, it's Katie Rich creaky stan
- 42:02Speaker 1: ravel from ten to eleven. We're normally like working on
- 42:06Speaker 1: last minute notes and you know, getting in our seats
- 42:09Speaker 1: and sort of setting up we need to set up
- 42:10Speaker 1: to do this technically, and so like in that last
- 42:13Speaker 1: ten minutes before UM I go up to like get ready.
- 42:17Speaker 1: In my office, I'm usually at my desk like pounding
- 42:22Speaker 1: away on last minute notes, you know, talking to my
- 42:25Speaker 1: team talking about all these different things, and your text
- 42:29Speaker 1: comes in and sometimes like I like miss the screen
- 42:34Speaker 1: grab and like I can't see all the buttons on
- 42:36Speaker 1: it because my eyes are so bad. So I didn't
- 42:38Speaker 1: even realize we had Cincinnati and Seattle until it was
- 42:42Speaker 1: I think we need to have a conversation earlier. Yeah,
- 42:45Speaker 1: I mean it's stuff like I wake up Sunday morning,
- 42:48Speaker 1: I go swimming in my pile of money, get out,
- 42:52Speaker 1: I Hoppen on Ferrari and just driving circles, and then
- 42:54Speaker 1: I get back inside and have a cappuccino. I text Chad,
- 42:58Speaker 1: who cares about these picks? No, man, I'm with you.
- 43:01Speaker 1: It's like I'll have our picks in on Saturday, like
- 43:04Speaker 1: the picks I had it on Saturday. I took a screenshot.
- 43:06Speaker 1: We're five and oh and then I woke up Sunday
- 43:08Speaker 1: and like the weather and report came in, I was
- 43:10Speaker 1: just overthinking everything. So I'm with you, I uh, we
- 43:16Speaker 1: gotta talk on Saturday. Like earlier the year, we were
- 43:18Speaker 1: talking on Saturday, we were feeling pretty good and like
- 43:22Speaker 1: we gotta talk on Saturday. Then we just gotta confirm
- 43:25Speaker 1: on Sunday. I'm with you. Yeah, I'm not gonna do
- 43:28Speaker 1: I won't do anymore Sunday switching because, like like you said,
- 43:33Speaker 1: it's just we're thinking clear and then we overthink it
- 43:35Speaker 1: when it comes crunched on that. There's no point of
- 43:38Speaker 1: of doing that. All right, We're betting our balls on
- 43:40Speaker 1: the Bucks B B B Big Baller Brand Rams three
- 43:48Speaker 1: and a half point favorites on the road at the
- 43:51Speaker 1: Niners Sunday night, all the money, all the bets coming
- 43:56Speaker 1: in on the Rams. This is where you bet the Niners.
- 44:00Speaker 1: I would agree with you if I feel like we're
- 44:01Speaker 1: due for a chalk Sunday night win. We've had it
- 44:05Speaker 1: feels like we've had three or four straight dog covers
- 44:08Speaker 1: and some outright wins on Sunday Night. I don't like
- 44:11Speaker 1: this number. Like in my in my system, I had
- 44:14Speaker 1: this at minus five for the Rams, And it makes
- 44:17Speaker 1: me a little weird because the Rams are coming off
- 44:19Speaker 1: a big road wind coming back to the West Coast
- 44:22Speaker 1: and the forty Niners just got blown out of the home.
- 44:25Speaker 1: But we said it last week, the forty Niners haven't
- 44:28Speaker 1: one or covered at home yet, Like do we want
- 44:31Speaker 1: to step in front of that train? Like I know
- 44:33Speaker 1: they're due to win one or cover one at home,
- 44:35Speaker 1: but I don't like it. I don't want to take
- 44:37Speaker 1: san f Ani. I'm probably gonna end up on the
- 44:39Speaker 1: rams with the public. Is Kyle Shanahan the next day
- 44:43Speaker 1: and Quinn two years from now? Are we having the
- 44:45Speaker 1: same conversation? No, no, no, no, they're just they've they've
- 44:49Speaker 1: had the injury bug and it's the super Bowl hangover.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Like we talked, it's just the way it is now.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Teams aren't the Patriots The year after the Super Bowl,
- 44:56Speaker 1: they just don't play as well. We're also seeting with
- 44:59Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They they should have lost the Chargers, and
- 45:02Speaker 1: I think they should have lost the Patriots and then
- 45:04Speaker 1: they would have lost Oakland. So it's a real thing.
- 45:07Speaker 1: You win the Super Bowl, you come in the next year,
- 45:08Speaker 1: things are just different. The teams are different. It's just
- 45:11Speaker 1: a weird feeling for these teams where I think they
- 45:13Speaker 1: put too much of themselves in too much pressure. Like
- 45:15Speaker 1: that Jimmy g game he was fishing. He looked like
- 45:20Speaker 1: every time he was dropping back the throat he was
- 45:22Speaker 1: just trying to make the big play into double coverage
- 45:24Speaker 1: and it was getting picked off. It was just I'm
- 45:28Speaker 1: with you that, like most like this is a good
- 45:30Speaker 1: bounceback spot for the forty, but I cannot. I cannot
- 45:33Speaker 1: back this team right now. Alright, Monday night makeup game. Uh,
- 45:39Speaker 1: Bills and Chiefs. It's a weird one to talk about
- 45:42Speaker 1: given the Bills plan tonight. We just don't know enough.
- 45:44Speaker 1: So the numbers are kind of all over the place.
- 45:46Speaker 1: Maybe the Chiefs are three, three and a half four
- 45:49Speaker 1: point favorites, depending on where you look. Um, I don't
- 45:53Speaker 1: know that we can accurately assess this game until we
- 45:57Speaker 1: see what happens tonight. Yeah, yeah, I mean it depends
- 46:01Speaker 1: where you're thinking going in. If like you think the
- 46:03Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win tonight, and even if they don't cover,
- 46:05Speaker 1: I don't see much movement in this line. But if
- 46:09Speaker 1: the Bills would lose and straight up to Tennessee tonight.
- 46:13Speaker 1: I could see this going up to like four and
- 46:14Speaker 1: a half five for the Chiefs, But You're right, it's hard.
- 46:20Speaker 1: It's hard to say where I feel good back in
- 46:23Speaker 1: the Chiefs here because they're coming off such a bad
- 46:26Speaker 1: loss at home, and I could just see them coming
- 46:29Speaker 1: out for blood right as I'm I'm guessing the Bills
- 46:33Speaker 1: are gonna win tonight and they're gonna come up feeling
- 46:36Speaker 1: pretty good due for a loss in the year, Like
- 46:38Speaker 1: they're gonna be five in oil at this point. So
- 46:41Speaker 1: I don't mind taking the Chiefs minds three and a half,
- 46:43Speaker 1: but I'm with you, I'll just wait on this and
- 46:45Speaker 1: win until after the game. Wait a second, Wait a second.
- 46:48Speaker 1: When we started the podcast, you said you like the
- 46:51Speaker 1: Titans to cover, but you think the Bills are gonna win,
- 46:54Speaker 1: Like so you think there's gonna be a really close game. Yeah,
- 46:56Speaker 1: I think that's what the Titans play. I think they're
- 46:58Speaker 1: like one of those teams are they just played up
- 47:01Speaker 1: to their competition or down to their competition. And Tannehill,
- 47:04Speaker 1: even if he's down by two touchdowns, he's gonna keep
- 47:06Speaker 1: chucking and they could come and back door game. So,
- 47:08Speaker 1: like I said, I do like the three and a half,
- 47:10Speaker 1: but I'm I think the Bills are gonna win tonight.
- 47:12Speaker 1: I just think they're a better team. You're giving me
- 47:16Speaker 1: so much to think about, all right, Cardinals last game
- 47:19Speaker 1: and last game of the slate. Uh, you know, knock
- 47:22Speaker 1: on wood that everyone gets to play. Cardinals visiting Dallas
- 47:25Speaker 1: obviously a drastically different game. Kyler Murray's first every Monday
- 47:29Speaker 1: night football game. Cardinals big, sort of get healthy win
- 47:32Speaker 1: against the Jets this past week on the road again
- 47:35Speaker 1: against Dallas two and a half point favorites Andy Dalton
- 47:38Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. I don't know that the adjustment because
- 47:44Speaker 1: like the Cowboys probably would have been three point favorites
- 47:46Speaker 1: at home, so we're talking about five and a half points.
- 47:48Speaker 1: Is Dak Prescott worth five and a half points? Is
- 47:51Speaker 1: that what you think this adjustment is? Where would you
- 47:52Speaker 1: have this right now? I just think it's a good number.
- 47:57Speaker 1: I had Dallas a plus two, so it's like two
- 47:59Speaker 1: and a half three right now. It's a pretty good number.
- 48:02Speaker 1: My whole thinking here is that Dalton, we know he's
- 48:06Speaker 1: not that bad of a quarterback. He's not very good,
- 48:09Speaker 1: but when he had weapons around him, he made the
- 48:10Speaker 1: Bang was a playoff team year in and and year out
- 48:13Speaker 1: when he had good weapons around him. So what we've
- 48:17Speaker 1: seen from the Cordinals, they can't run the ball, and
- 48:20Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like their defense can get consistent stops
- 48:22Speaker 1: on third down. And I know how bad the Cowboys defenses,
- 48:27Speaker 1: so I know they're gonna give up a bunch of
- 48:28Speaker 1: plays and this will be a big sweat as a
- 48:31Speaker 1: Cowboy backer. But I have to take the Cowboys tore
- 48:35Speaker 1: especially the game, the first start for Dalton and the
- 48:39Speaker 1: game after like a week after this whole injury with Doc.
- 48:42Speaker 1: It just seems like it's the kind of game that
- 48:44Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna win. And the Cardinals after a
- 48:48Speaker 1: win a win last week, I could see them letting
- 48:51Speaker 1: down here on Monday night. Well, I agree with you.
- 48:54Speaker 1: I actually feel like the numbers too big. I mean,
- 48:56Speaker 1: you're making it too you're making it two and a half. Whatever.
- 48:59Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are totally the right side here.
- 49:01Speaker 1: But here's our dilemma. So right now I have start
- 49:07Speaker 1: of the games we like, Uh, you like Washington. I
- 49:11Speaker 1: like Washington on the money line, but we're not going
- 49:13Speaker 1: to put that one in the contest. I think we
- 49:15Speaker 1: both like the Falcons for the contest. I think we
- 49:17Speaker 1: both like the Bears for the contest. Colts and Eagles
- 49:21Speaker 1: are two teams were probably gonna bet. But I don't
- 49:23Speaker 1: think we like him for the contest. Pats we love
- 49:27Speaker 1: for the contest. The fans will talk if if Flacco
- 49:31Speaker 1: plays Miami against the Jets. Uh, the Buccaneers we love.
- 49:37Speaker 1: We want to marry the Buccaneers. Um. Right now it's
- 49:40Speaker 1: plus one and a half against the Packers. We're hoping
- 49:42Speaker 1: against the plus three. You like the Rams his favorites
- 49:45Speaker 1: on the road on Sunday Night, and we both like
- 49:47Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Are the Cowboys are fifth entry right now
- 49:50Speaker 1: we're missing one team. Yeah, I would lock them in.
- 49:54Speaker 1: And as all the fans are told us, told me
- 49:57Speaker 1: NonStop on social media, we forgot to ride ever pick
- 50:00Speaker 1: last week, so we have to do survivor pick. So
- 50:05Speaker 1: we dodged, we dodged bullets last week. We kept it
- 50:07Speaker 1: simple like I put it out to a Twitter poll
- 50:10Speaker 1: and people voted. The Cardinals were overwhelming voted, and I
- 50:12Speaker 1: like that side too. As we talked Fade and Joe Flacco.
- 50:16Speaker 1: So this is a funny week where it's gonna be
- 50:21Speaker 1: a little bit of game theory, buddy. It's like, what
- 50:23Speaker 1: do you want to do here? Do we want to
- 50:24Speaker 1: just get rid of the Colts and playing against the
- 50:26Speaker 1: rookie here after a bad loss, or do we just
- 50:30Speaker 1: want to keep riding fade the Jets and take the Dolphins,
- 50:32Speaker 1: Like this might be the only time for sure we
- 50:35Speaker 1: can play the Dolphins all year. So maybe you can
- 50:39Speaker 1: put a poll out, or I'll put a poll on Twitter.
- 50:41Speaker 1: We're gonna go in between the Dolphs, the Dolphins, and
- 50:43Speaker 1: the cold stuff. I could see the Colts losing where
- 50:46Speaker 1: I can't see the Dolphins losing this game. So I
- 50:48Speaker 1: do feel better about the Dolphins, all right, So why
- 50:50Speaker 1: don't you put the poll out and then we can
- 50:52Speaker 1: decide whether people vote for the Dolphins of the cult.
- 50:54Speaker 1: Either way, we can decide on the Dolphins, and I
- 50:56Speaker 1: will retweet you when the poll comes out. Yeah that works.
- 50:59Speaker 1: So basically, we got unlucky. If the Cowboys would have
- 51:03Speaker 1: lost that game last week, we would have been down
- 51:05Speaker 1: to like ten thousand people in our day competition. It
- 51:09Speaker 1: was like overwhelming. It was like thirty of the people
- 51:12Speaker 1: had taken the Cowboys. So we we got a decent
- 51:15Speaker 1: knocked out. A lot of people took same frame, A
- 51:17Speaker 1: decent amount of people took the chief, so we do
- 51:20Speaker 1: need one. We do need some of these big dogs
- 51:23Speaker 1: to keep getting these upsets as we go along here,
- 51:25Speaker 1: because the smaller this the group gets just go through
- 51:28Speaker 1: the roof to make it to the final hundred. That's
- 51:30Speaker 1: what'll probably end up with. We are survivors. I'm a survivor,
- 51:37Speaker 1: alright to recap our picks right now that we're going with.
- 51:40Speaker 1: And by the way, we're much smarter on Tuesday than
- 51:42Speaker 1: we are on Sunday morning. Capkins, Bears, Pats Bucks, Cowboys, Um,
- 51:50Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, guess what it's time to reward our favorite
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- 52:23Speaker 1: winner of last week's contest? Winning that Action Network. Could
- 52:27Speaker 1: he is Mike Houston quote, Simon says, I'm sorry, but
- 52:33Speaker 1: I am the sorry one. Sorry for having just found
- 52:36Speaker 1: this podcast, Sorry for having missed your undefeated start to
- 52:39Speaker 1: the season. Sorry to have scoffed at value plays and
- 52:43Speaker 1: short home dogs and fading the Jets into oblivion. I
- 52:48Speaker 1: was lost, but this podcast found me. I was blind,
- 52:52Speaker 1: but this podcast helped me see again. Wow, that was
- 52:57Speaker 1: actually pretty amazing. We didn't know the theme of the
- 53:00Speaker 1: podcast was going to be vulnerability principles like seeing clearly,
- 53:06Speaker 1: but I think Mike Houston sums it up alrighty For
- 53:10Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, I am Chad Milman. This has been the
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