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Jeep Podcasts ROASTED! Grok Goes Unhinged + Lowered Gladiator Fail · Jeep Talk Show

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  (dramatic music)
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  All right, boys and girls,
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  it's time for another Jeep
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  Talk Show flagship episode.
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  And we're gonna do a
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  little something different.
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  Top Jeep podcast reviews.
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  And yes, Grok
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  unhinged, we'll get in on this.
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  All right, Josh, first up,
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  we've got Jeep Life Podcast.
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  These guys are all about
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  the top down doors off,
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  living the dream vibe.
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  Let's see what they're
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  yapping about this week.
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  And I hitched a ride
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  on the Hot Mess Express
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  and it was all of that.
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  It was a hot mess and an express.
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  It was good.
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  So I'm Jeep and Terry, I'm your host.
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  Settle in, cool off, have a good time.
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  We're gonna talk tires today.
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  But so I put out a prompt
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  earlier as I do sometimes.
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  And I got people online, it's great.
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  Kate, thanks for
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  throwing out the new nickname
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  that's been given.
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  But our prompt today was,
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  what kind of tires are
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  you running on your Jeep?
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  Not necessarily the brand,
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  I don't wanna talk brands,
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  but what type?
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  Are you running ATs?
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  Are you running MTs?
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  Or what are you running?
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  Always MTs. And why?
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  Dustin jumped on that immediately.
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  He runs 39 and a half inch boggers
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  because he thinks that's the only tire
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  that should be on a Jeep.
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  First of all, nobody can
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  afford 39 and a half inch boggers.
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  And if so, if I'm riding down a road,
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  that's gonna be the pain.
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  But thanks Dustin for that.
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  Eric throws on here, he runs MTs
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  because he's not a daily driver.
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  Eric, you would have
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  to be able to steer it
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  for it to be a daily driver.
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  But no, thanks for that.
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  Trisha, she's a great
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  listener to the podcast, both.
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  She has a set of ATs for daily driving
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  and a set of MTs for
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  hard road off-roading.
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  Man, you gotta work
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  hard when you got two sets
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  of tires and wheels.
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  You gotta pop those ATs
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  off and put the MTs on.
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  I just say muddied all the time.
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  I mean, that's
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  definitely the easy way to go.
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  I've always been a
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  proponent of the right tire
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  for the right thing.
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  And I mean, if you're only going wheeling
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  maybe once a month, once every few months
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  or something like that, then absolutely.
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  Get yourself two sets,
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  have yourself the ATs,
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  still get that little
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  bit of aggressive look.
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  You ain't gotta run a road tire.
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  And you have the ability in
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  a very short period of time,
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  get the Jeep up in the
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  air, jack, couple jack stands.
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  You do one corner at a
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  time, whatever, slap out the MTs
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  and then go hit the trails.
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  And that way you really can maximize
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  the life of your mud terrains.
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  And that might be able
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  to give you the ability
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  to afford a nicer tire or a bigger tire
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  or something along those lines.
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  I really liked Trish's idea with that.
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  But as far as reviewing this podcast
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  and how it goes and whatnot,
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  seems to be a lot of inside baseball.
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  I have no idea what's going
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  on with the one dude's Jeep
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  and whether or not he can turn it or not,
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  what that means, kind
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  of lost in that regard.
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  So, it's one of those things to where
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  if there was some
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  context and some background
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  that might have been a funny story or
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  something like that,
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  I'm just gonna gloss over that.
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  Seems like they're
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  kind of trying to follow
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  in the wake of the Jeep talk show
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  as far as content and
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  topics and stuff like that.
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  And not to mention the way
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  that they're going about it.
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  So, it's nice to be imitated.
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  They say the highest form
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  of flattery is imitation.
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  So, thanks boys.
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  So, the thing that confuses me,
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  well, first off, I think it's great
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  how he abuses his
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  listeners and his viewers,
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  just like we do.
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  I mean, that's what makes podcasting fun,
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  is when you can abuse
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  the people that you love.
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  So, the other thing gets me,
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  and I was thinking about
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  this just a few minutes ago
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  before we started recording.
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  The thing with Terry
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  and the Jeep Live podcast,
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  I think he's got a bit of a Joe Rogan
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  thing going on there
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  because Terry's not very interesting.
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  I don't know how he gets
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  any listeners or viewers.
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  The only thing I can figure is,
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  it's like the Joe Rogan thing
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  where Joe Rogan did news radio.
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  He did that thing
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  where people were eating.
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  He was making people eat
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  food that was really nasty.
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  I think that people just know Terry
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  from the various jobs and
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  connections that he's made,
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  and people go, "Yeah, I'm listening,
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  "and just like your favorite song,
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  "it might be a crap song,
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  but you hear it often enough,
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  "you start liking it."
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  Love you, Terry.
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  See, Terry gave me shit.
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  Terry gave me shit out of EJS one year,
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  so I'm giving it back to him.
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  (laughs) Oh, okay, okay, all right.
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  See, there's the missing context.
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  I get it now.
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  Yeah, I don't exactly, I
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  don't know who Terry is.
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  I don't know his
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  background or anything like that.
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  So I'm sure if I did a
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  little bit of research and stuff,
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  I could be able to put
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  two and two together.
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  But we've long since
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  really prided ourselves
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  on our level of self-depreciation
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  and the way we attack
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  ourselves in the podcast and stuff.
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  We've made a decent
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  reputation out of it, I don't know.
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  But I mean, we certainly
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  have not pulled punches
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  in the last few years when it comes to
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  what we think of listeners and whatnot.
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  I mean, hell, Nicky G
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  has heard everything
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  we've had to say about him
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  and he still comes around.
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  Yeah, Nicky's in there
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  for the abuse, though.
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  I think it's a personal thing.
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  Now, as promised--
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  He'll stay a little masochist.
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  Yeah, as promised, here is
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  Grock's review of that clip.
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  This clip's a
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  (beep)
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  tire orgy in audio form,
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  you filthy Jeep
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  (beep)
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  degenerate.
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  Hosts out here
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  roasting Destin's 39.5 inch
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  Boggart monstrosity like it's trying to
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  (beep)
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  the road to death
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  while poor Eric can't even
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  steer his daily driver
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  without crying in the corner.
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  Grock Trotland.
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  Tracing flexing dual AT-MT setups?
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  That's some next level tire
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  (beep)
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  behavior,
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  swapping rubber like
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  she's got a garage full of
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  (beep)
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  for every terrain.
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  If this podcast keeps slinging this raw,
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  unfiltered grease monkey chaos,
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  I'm strapping on my own mud terrain meat
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  to the ditch where it belongs.
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  So yeah, the whole thing's
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  basically a tire fetish podcast
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  for people who get off on mud and rocks.
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  So no offense to all the
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  people that Terry spoke about,
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  offense to Terry, but no
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  offense to all the people
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  that Terry spoke about,
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  because Grock doesn't know you,
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  so it's just making a funny.
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  So don't get your butt hurt.
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  Well, I would have
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  gone more like tire fire
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  versus tire orgy, but okay.
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  Oh man, yeah, tire fire.
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  That's always a cool thing.
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  You go outside and go,
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  "Where's that fire coming from?
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  That's a lot of black smoke."
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  All right, Josh, so our
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  next review is for I Speak Jeep
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  from the guys at SFJ 4x4.
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  They're a shop rat, they are shop rats.
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  They are shop rats who
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  actually turn wrenches
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  on everyday jeeps.
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  So they get plenty
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  technical and opinionated.
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  Oh, we love opinionated.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So here's the hot take is I'm going to,
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  how Neil got his
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  groove back, or new groove.
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  I'm gonna put it out there that I wanna
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  participate in this,
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  but I obviously need to shove a Jeep
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  in the shape of an off-road vehicle.
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  And so this is my
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  accountability out to the Jeep community
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  that this is my moment,
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  because I wanted to do OBJ,
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  and I had the opportunity to do it,
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  but I literally did not
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  have a Jeep that I felt was,
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  in a shape that I could attend.
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  And I support you,
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  keeping everybody accountable.
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  I just like running Jeeps.
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  Basically gonna be gone for a week,
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  visiting the family.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah, that really,
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  that's a big chunk of July.
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  That's a big chunk of July
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  that I'm gonna be missing.
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  I get that.
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  Do you though?
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  I feel like this is the
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  camper ordeal all over again.
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  I said I'd have a
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  camper built from two months,
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  and take it on a road trip.
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  I agree.
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  This is what I'm talking about.
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  I believe it's a possible.
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  And it's a part of-
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  I'm very unlikely.
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  I know.
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  So I know this is just a clip,
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  but I don't know what
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  they were talking about.
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  Was it over your head, Josh?
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  Look, he sounds, to me,
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  it sounds like he's
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  trying to turn a Renegade
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  into an actual off-road rig.
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  And I think he's got
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  quite the task ahead of him.
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  And I don't think that
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  he's gonna be able to do it.
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  I mean, you can go ahead and polish a
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  (beep)
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  all you want.
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  You can put lipstick on a pig,
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  but I don't think there's any way
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  that you're gonna be
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  able to turn a Patriot
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  or a Renegade into something
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  that he's actually gonna be proud of
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  or gonna be able to use off-road
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  in the way that it sounds
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  like he's trying to intend.
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  So, I mean, best of luck to these guys.
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  It doesn't sound like they
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  really know what they're doing,
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  but I'm gonna wish them the best of luck
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  and hope that they can get their
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  (beep)
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  together
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  one of these days.
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  And actually produce some decent content
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  that we can listen to
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  in regards to off-roading
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  and the Jeep world in general.
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  Yeah, I'm gonna give
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  them a mulligan on this
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  because it's just a clip.
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  It's a minute, 12-second clip.
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  And they may have
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  explained all of it ahead of time,
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  but I think this is one of
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  the detractors from podcasts
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  is that it gets to be
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  a good old boy thing.
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  And we do the same thing when we started.
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  It used to be-
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  No, to a certain extent.
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  Yeah, when we started, it used to be,
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  "Hey, Josh, how's it going?
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  Anything happening?
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  Is it hot over there where you are?
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  And maybe we need to even
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  explain where you were."
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  So it's like this stuff
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  that nobody understands
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  what's going on.
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  When we first started the XJ Talk Show,
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  it was based off of content
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  and material from XJTalk.com,
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  which was one of the
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  largest, most popular
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  Jeep Cherokee-based
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  forums on the internet.
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  And obviously, as we all know,
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  forums have kind of come
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  to the wayside as things do.
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  Oh, nobody but post.
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  Maybe we're just going
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  there and being the post.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, and things have
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  kind of sort of switched over
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  and shifted into more of a
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  social media and Instagram
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  kind of platform for
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  that kind of content.
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  And so things just sort of
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  naturally age and attrition out
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  as far as technology and
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  the way that it is used
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  on the internet.
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  And so it's, yeah, we
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  definitely had a bit of a more
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  of that inside baseball,
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  the guys around the
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  campfire who all know each other,
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  all talking about things
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  that they only know about.
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  Because again, that
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  show was based on content
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  from a specific site.
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  Now, as the show
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  progressed and as we grew
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  and changed over from the
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  XJTalk show to the Jeep Talk Show,
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  that sort of got
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  filtered out a little bit more.
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  And our content became a
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  little bit more structured
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  and honed and obviously we
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  got that more professional feel
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  and look to the show.
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  And that has certainly extended over time
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  through all the episodes.
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  Now, everybody's got to
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  go through growing pains.
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  Nothing will ever sort
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  of stay the same forever.
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  And if it does, likely it's not going to,
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  not gonna last very long.
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  So if we had
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  maintained what we were doing
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  with the XJTalk show, had never changed,
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  had never grew or
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  never altered what we did,
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  there's a good chance that we
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  wouldn't be doing this today.
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  So I think those boys have a
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  little bit of room to grow.
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  And I think they're just
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  in their fledgling stage.
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  And once they figure out
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  their stride and whatnot,
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  they may have a chance.
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  But until that point in time happens,
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  it's gonna be more clips like this
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  that I think just aren't
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  really going to fill the sales.
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  So I'll just mention really quick,
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  had we started our
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  podcast and went directly
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  to 10,000 listeners or views or whatever,
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  there would have been
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  no reason to change it.
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  It's like, don't fix what's not broke.
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  So I think that's one of the reasons
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  why we tried to change
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  here is because we're looking
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  for that right
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  combination of just what you,
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  the viewer and a listener wants.
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  All right, so of course
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  we have a Grok review here.
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  Let's let Grok review
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  this I Speak Jeep clip.
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  This clip is the sound of
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  a man publicly announcing
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  he's gonna
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  (beep)
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  the Jeep God's raw
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  while his boys immediately
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  start pulling his pants down
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  in front of the entire community.
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  You drop the Neil got his
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  groove back hot take like a mic,
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  declare OVJ is your moment,
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  then get hit with the ultimate family
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  (beep)
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  block.
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  You're gonna be gone
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  for a whole week in July
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  and the kill shot.
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  This is the camper ordeal all over again.
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  Speaker 3's I believe
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  it's possible, very unlikely
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  is the verbal equivalent of patting a
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  horny dog on the head
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  and telling it to go
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  (beep)
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  itself.
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  Pure unfiltered Jeep podcasts gold,
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  10 10 savage family therapy disguised
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  as accountability porn.
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  Send the full episode before
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  July eats your dreams again,
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  you beautiful delusional dreamer.
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  Oh God, she's so rough.
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  All right Grok.
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  (laughing)
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  I think Grok needs a boyfriend.
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  That's all I gotta say about that.
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  (laughing)
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  Have you ever dated
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  the, what do they call it?
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  Not bi, but not bi directional,
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  where they have that
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  issue where they get,
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  they're high of highs and lows.
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  Anyway, they're-
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  Oh bipolar.
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  Bipolar.
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  So I'll tell you this for anybody
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  that has never dated the bipolar.
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  Not as fun as bi
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  curious, let me tell you.
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  From experience, it's not
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  as fun as bi curious, but-
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  If you've never dated a bipolar girl,
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  they are wild to date, but so tiring.
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  And some of your
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  (beep)
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  may get set on fire.
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  I'm just gonna say that.
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  It's very true, very true.
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  All right, Josh, before we
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  get to our final clip review,
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  how did these podcasts,
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  all three of them actually,
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  rank for being the
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  most popular to the least?
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  So, and I'll say these,
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  all three of these podcasts
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  are very close in the rankings,
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  at least according to the
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  information I got from Grok.
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  All right, so the number
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  one is the Jeep Life Podcast,
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  currently the most
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  visible and actively discussed
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  in Jeep communities,
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  strong YouTube presence,
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  regular episodes, and good engagement.
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  So even if they suck, which they don't,
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  even if they suck, they're doing good.
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  I was gonna say it really quick,
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  I don't know if it's a regional thing,
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  but I see a lot of Jeep
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  Life stickers out here
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  in the Pacific Northwest.
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  And maybe it's just one of those things.
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  I don't know if those
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  stickers are referring
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  to the podcast or not,
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  because I've seen them for decades.
• 15:02
  Jeep Life is a very
• 15:03
  popular combination of words.
• 15:05
  Not a bad idea for a
• 15:06
  podcast, a name of a podcast.
• 15:09
  You get that free advertising.
• 15:12
  All right, so number two, I speak Jeep.
• 15:15
  It's a solid second
• 15:16
  place, good following,
• 15:17
  thanks to the SFJ 4x4 Shop,
• 15:21
  backing technical content
• 15:23
  and consistent video episodes.
• 15:25
  I've interacted with those guys, cool
• 15:27
  guys on social media.
• 15:30
  All right, and the upcoming
• 15:31
  final clip review of the--
• 15:33
  SFJ, is that like South
• 15:34
  Florida Jeep or something?
• 15:36
  In the final clip that
• 15:38
  we're about to review,
• 15:39
  the Jeep Cast, still very popular
• 15:41
  and one of the longest running,
• 15:43
  but slightly behind the top two
• 15:46
  in recent growth and search visibility.
• 15:49
  Now, of course, this is
• 15:50
  all based on mid-2026.
• 15:53
  The positions can change all the time.
• 15:57
  This really depends on how the strength
• 15:59
  on individual episodes.
• 16:00
  So, but great job.
• 16:02
  Anybody that starts a
• 16:03
  podcast and sticks with it
• 16:04
  is doing amazing.
• 16:06
  All right, Josh, so let's
• 16:07
  get to our last clip review.
• 16:09
  Again, this is for the Jeep Cast.
• 16:12
  Guys have been around forever,
• 16:14
  building, wheeling and fixing Jeeps
• 16:15
  while giving weekly
• 16:17
  updates from your neighborhood,
• 16:19
  the Pacific Northwest.
• 16:21
  He did not run that segment.
• 16:23
  He opted out of that very wisely,
• 16:25
  said, "I'm not going
• 16:25
  through there again."
• 16:27
  I went through once, it
• 16:28
  was pretty precarious.
• 16:29
  We didn't hurt my rig
• 16:31
  through mastery of winching.
• 16:33
  I'm not doing it again.
• 16:35
  Yeah. Okay, so,
• 16:36
  we went on, no more mishaps,
• 16:38
  the rest of the day on that one.
• 16:39
  So, now we know the
• 16:42
  trail systems, life's good.
• 16:46
  And now it's time to
• 16:47
  take the participants out.
• 16:49
  You know, so our first
• 16:51
  day we do the Manastas Ridge
• 16:52
  I talked about.
• 16:53
  Yeah. Oh no, I forgot.
• 16:55
  Wait.
• 16:56
  While we were
• 16:57
  prerunning on Manastas Ridge,
• 16:59
  and I'm going out to Rocky Saddle,
• 17:01
  I was having a bad
• 17:02
  hair day, man, that day.
• 17:03
  So, I come up to this bypass,
• 17:07
  because there's a giant log,
• 17:08
  and I'm in first.
• 17:10
  I turn into the bypass,
• 17:11
  and there's tree
• 17:12
  branches hanging down with,
• 17:13
  I mean, they're
• 17:14
  evergreens, you can't see very well.
• 17:15
  So, I'm going kind of slow,
• 17:17
  and I can see some log branches coming in
• 17:20
  on the right slightly.
• 17:21
  So, I turn, but I turn
• 17:23
  now, maybe just too soon.
• 17:24
  I can't see anything.
• 17:26
  And I hear a loud crash.
• 17:28
  And I drive right through
• 17:30
  a branch of my A pillar,
• 17:32
  it didn't really do much damage.
• 17:35
  I get whacked in the face
• 17:36
  with all kinds of stuff.
• 17:38
  I didn't even know what it was at first.
• 17:39
  And suddenly, all these branches,
• 17:41
  ones that have all the
• 17:44
  needles on them and stuff,
• 17:45
  clear, and I go,
• 17:47
  why did these guys not cut this out?
• 17:49
  Stupid.
• 17:51
  This thing should have cut back a foot.
• 17:53
  Wow.
• 17:54
  Well, I cleared it all
• 17:55
  right, it's back a foot now.
• 17:56
  Okay.
• 17:56
  I drove right through it.
• 17:58
  Come on, man, this is bad.
• 18:00
  My rig got haunted, man.
• 18:02
  You didn't get to use
• 18:03
  the head shimmers to do it.
• 18:06
  Oh, that was too thick.
• 18:07
  The chainsaw.
• 18:08
  Oh, okay.
• 18:09
  Oh yeah, it was pretty serious.
• 18:11
  I mean, I had part of the branch in the G-bush.
• 18:13
  So I don't know about you, Josh,
• 18:14
  but getting hit in the
• 18:15
  face with a surprise bush
• 18:17
  is what dreams are made out of.
• 18:18
  There's no joke in
• 18:20
  there somewhere, for sure.
• 18:20
  It was right there.
• 18:21
  Absolutely.
• 18:21
  You got the joke just then.
• 18:25
  (laughing)
• 18:28
  It's one of these
• 18:28
  things where I'm sitting here
• 18:31
  shaking my head because I
• 18:33
  wheel out here to the Northwest.
• 18:35
  I know the trail systems out here,
• 18:37
  and in no way are you
• 18:41
  going to turn into a bypass
• 18:43
  and not see a branch that
• 18:45
  would require a chainsaw
• 18:48
  to trim it down in the way.
• 18:51
  The only way you're not gonna see that
• 18:53
  is by not paying attention.
• 18:55
  And it sounds like this
• 18:56
  guy was paying more attention
• 18:57
  to his bad hair day
• 18:58
  than his line selection
• 19:00
  and tire placement.
• 19:01
  So I mean, it's just
• 19:02
  like, for fuck's sake, dude.
• 19:04
  Look, I know he's trying to tell a story
• 19:06
  and he may be over sensationalizing
• 19:08
  things a little bit.
• 19:10
  And maybe he's trying to save face
• 19:12
  because he pulled a
• 19:13
  (beep)
• 19:14
  maneuver.
• 19:15
  And oh, I don't want to drive over a log,
• 19:17
  so I'm gonna take this bypass.
• 19:19
  And it's just like, I mean, I
• 19:21
  don't know what kind of trail
• 19:22
  he was on, what difficulty
• 19:23
  level or anything like that.
• 19:24
  Maybe they were scouting.
• 19:26
  He says, you know, now it's time to take
• 19:27
  the participants out and stuff like that.
• 19:30
  And so maybe this was an initial dry run
• 19:33
  or a shakedown run or
• 19:34
  something like that.
• 19:35
  And so they were just scouting or
• 19:36
  something like that.
• 19:37
  I don't know, again,
• 19:38
  context wasn't there,
• 19:40
  but from face value, there's a lot here
• 19:44
  that can be unpacked.
• 19:45
  And so, I mean, yeah, we
• 19:47
  go into line selection.
• 19:48
  We go into trail selection, you know,
• 19:50
  what you were doing there to begin with.
• 19:52
  There's a tree across the trail.
• 19:54
  I mean, unless that tree is
• 19:55
  four and a half feet tall,
• 19:57
  I know these guys as Jeeps.
• 19:59
  They can definitely go over an
• 20:01
  (beep)
• 20:02
  tree.
• 20:02
  So why he was taking
• 20:04
  the bypass to begin with
• 20:05
  because there was
• 20:06
  something across the trail,
• 20:07
  I don't know.
• 20:09
  And he was saying, well,
• 20:11
  I'm not gonna do that again.
• 20:12
  And now we know, well, it's like, okay,
• 20:15
  anytime you're going
• 20:16
  into an unknown trail system
• 20:18
  or you've got an
• 20:18
  obstacle ahead of you or stuff,
• 20:20
  you go out and you walk the obstacle.
• 20:22
  You know, make yourself familiar,
• 20:24
  figure out your line selection,
• 20:26
  figure out, okay, how am
• 20:27
  I going to tackle this?
• 20:28
  Which is gonna be the
• 20:29
  best way to go through it?
• 20:31
  And he just decided to take a bypass
• 20:33
  and run his Jeep into a
• 20:33
  tree instead of going over one.
• 20:36
  So there's, I don't
• 20:37
  know, man, like I said,
• 20:38
  I'm just sitting here shaking my head
• 20:39
  because there's so much here
• 20:41
  that seems to have gone wrong.
• 20:44
  Not to mention the way he woke up.
• 20:45
  He's got out of bed on
• 20:46
  the wrong side of the bed
• 20:47
  that day or something.
• 20:48
  You know, so I don't know.
• 20:50
  So these guys, I think,
• 20:52
  may need to go back to basics
• 20:54
  and may need to relearn some fun to make.
• 20:56
  Yes, the story in that
• 20:58
  clip was interesting.
• 21:00
  It was very well spoken
• 21:02
  and it held my interest.
• 21:04
  So yeah, I heard all the same stuff
• 21:06
  you're just talking
• 21:07
  about, but it was interesting.
• 21:08
  And I think maybe he was
• 21:09
  embellishing for the audience
• 21:11
  and there's absolutely
• 21:12
  nothing wrong with that
• 21:13
  because a podcast should be interesting.
• 21:16
  And if you have the
• 21:17
  ability to tell a story,
• 21:18
  like it's like you, whenever
• 21:19
  you used to do the news for us,
• 21:21
  you had a very good way
• 21:22
  of delivering that news.
• 21:24
  And that was a good thing.
• 21:27
  So yeah, so it's cool.
• 21:29
  And you know, them being
• 21:30
  out in the Pacific Northwest,
• 21:32
  we need to get you hooked up with them
• 21:34
  and then go out there and criticize them
• 21:36
  while you're in the passenger seat.
• 21:38
  (laughing)
• 21:43
  Yeah, you know, you took
• 21:44
  that line wrong there, pal.
• 21:46
  You know, I know what a done is.
• 21:47
  I like that.
• 21:47
  And they say, yeah, no,
• 21:49
  they say how long has
• 21:50
  your Jeep been down?
• 21:51
  And you'll say, oh,
• 21:52
  that's beyond the point.
• 21:53
  I'm really good at this.
• 21:54
  I don't need to have a Jeep that runs.
• 21:56
  (laughing)
• 21:58
  Yeah.
• 22:00
  All right.
• 22:02
  No, for those who are a
• 22:03
  little bit new to the show,
• 22:04
  my Jeep has been down
• 22:05
  for quite some time.
• 22:06
  I do know these guys though.
• 22:08
  I've been out to several
• 22:09
  Jeep shows out here in my area.
• 22:12
  They're frequent, they
• 22:13
  make frequent appearances
• 22:14
  with a lot of the Jeep shows and stuff.
• 22:16
  Honestly, my Jeep
• 22:17
  couldn't keep up with these guys.
• 22:20
  They're way overbuilt from, yeah.
• 22:23
  I mean, these guys are on
• 22:25
  like full width 60s and 40s.
• 22:27
  And I can't, I mean, I'm on 33s still.
• 22:30
  So, you know, yeah, I've got the armor.
• 22:34
  Yeah, I'll drag my Jeep
• 22:36
  over the same obstacles.
• 22:37
  But look, I'm probably
• 22:38
  gonna be pulling cable
• 22:39
  a lot more often than these
• 22:40
  guys would be comfortable with.
• 22:42
  And they're gonna be
• 22:44
  taking route selections
• 22:45
  that frankly, I probably wouldn't.
• 22:48
  And I would likely be
• 22:49
  taking bypasses on trails
• 22:51
  that they would
• 22:51
  otherwise have no problem with.
• 22:53
  I actually wonder why
• 22:53
  they were on a bypass.
• 22:54
  That must have been a red
• 22:55
  one when they were trying
• 22:56
  to get over.
• 22:58
  Exactly, exactly.
• 23:00
  But I know these fellows are,
• 23:02
  they have a very extensive
• 23:05
  build that they're driving.
• 23:08
  These guys have sunk a lot
• 23:09
  of money into their rigs.
• 23:11
  They are very purpose built.
• 23:13
  And so it's one of those things where
• 23:17
  if he was taking a bypass,
• 23:20
  likely the trail
• 23:21
  conditions were pretty bad
• 23:24
  or the trail system
• 23:25
  had eroded to the point
• 23:27
  where maybe a three
• 23:32
  had turned into a five
• 23:33
  or something like that.
• 23:34
  A green square had
• 23:36
  turned into a black diamond,
• 23:37
  you know, that sort of thing.
• 23:39
  Difficulty levels
• 23:40
  change all the time out here
• 23:42
  in the Pacific Northwest on trails.
• 23:43
  There's a ton of trail maintenance
• 23:45
  that needs to happen every year.
• 23:47
  That's why there's a lot of stewardship
• 23:49
  of the Jeep clubs and the and the
• 23:51
  off-road trail systems
• 23:52
  out here in the Northwest.
• 23:53
  Because our winters are relatively harsh,
• 23:57
  we get a lot of rainfall.
• 23:58
  There's a lot of snowpack.
• 23:59
  And as that melts,
• 24:01
  the erosion stuff tends
• 24:03
  to take a pretty good toll on the trails
• 24:06
  and the way that they
• 24:07
  evolve throughout the year.
• 24:09
  And there's a couple of
• 24:11
  trails that come to mind
• 24:13
  that over the course of 10 years have
• 24:15
  dramatically changed
• 24:18
  to the point of where lines
• 24:20
  that you used to be able to take
• 24:21
  are just no longer even there anymore.
• 24:24
  And so what you used to be able to,
• 24:27
  there's this one trail that used to have
• 24:28
  what was called the Rock of
• 24:30
  Doom right in the middle of it.
• 24:31
  And those who are
• 24:32
  familiar with Firebreak Five
• 24:34
  out here in the Pacific Northwest
• 24:36
  in the Tillamook,
• 24:37
  Tillamook Burn trail system
• 24:39
  is it would be familiar with this.
• 24:41
  There was, this trail is
• 24:43
  kind of like a glacial wash
• 24:45
  full of basketball size boulders,
• 24:48
  a lot of the Oregon
• 24:49
  clay that I've talked about
• 24:51
  in episodes past where when it gets wet,
• 24:53
  turns into snotty peanut butter.
• 24:56
  And your line selection
• 24:57
  becomes very critical.
• 24:59
  And in the middle of this
• 25:00
  trail was about a six and a half,
• 25:02
  seven and a half foot tall, giant boulder
• 25:05
  that was more skinny and
• 25:07
  oblong and tall than it was wide.
• 25:10
  And it made you split your line.
• 25:11
  You were gonna go left,
• 25:12
  you're gonna go right.
• 25:13
  And depending on your vehicle,
• 25:16
  your track and your wheel base,
• 25:20
  you really had to be cautious
• 25:23
  about how you set your tires
• 25:25
  and where you put your line.
• 25:27
  And that trail system
• 25:29
  has completely changed
• 25:31
  over the last 10, 15 years,
• 25:32
  just because of natural erosion
• 25:35
  and the way that the
• 25:36
  snowpack and the water
• 25:37
  changes the trail throughout the season.
• 25:39
  So I could see if these
• 25:40
  guys were on something
• 25:41
  that they were used to.
• 25:42
  And things had dramatically changed.
• 25:45
  Their line selection was no longer there.
• 25:47
  And he was forced to take a bypass
• 25:49
  because the trail was either not there,
• 25:51
  his line wasn't there,
• 25:53
  or the conditions that he eroded so bad,
• 25:55
  he was forced into a
• 25:55
  situation to take a bypass.
• 25:58
  So I get it.
• 25:59
  And I'm giving him a
• 25:59
  little bit of a hard time,
• 26:00
  but I just figured I'd
• 26:02
  throw that context out there
• 26:03
  for those who aren't
• 26:04
  familiar with the Northwest.
• 26:05
  Well, you know, solid
• 26:06
  trail talk as always, Josh.
• 26:08
  All you guys, all three
• 26:09
  of you guys are making me
• 26:10
  want to plan a trip to Pacific Northwest.
• 26:13
  It's a beautiful area.
• 26:14
  I think it'd be
• 26:14
  wonderful to go wheeling in.
• 26:16
  Oh, you'd love it out here.
• 26:17
  You'd love it out here.
• 26:18
  All right, let's see what
• 26:19
  Grock thinks of this clip.
• 26:22
  Oh boy.
• 26:22
  This clip is pure Jeep dad trauma porn.
• 26:25
  Host gets whacked in
• 26:26
  the face by a pine branch
• 26:27
  the size of a small child.
• 26:29
  A pillar takes a pounding,
• 26:31
  and suddenly he's got a whole
• 26:32
  (beep)
• 26:33
  tree riding shotgun
• 26:34
  like it's his new
• 26:35
  emotional support branch.
• 26:36
  He pre-runs "Mass Dash
• 26:38
  Ridge," forgets the segment,
• 26:40
  then roasts the trail gods for not
• 26:41
  trimming it back a foot
• 26:43
  while admitting he just drove through it
• 26:45
  like a
• 26:45
  (beep)
• 26:45
  battering ram.
• 26:47
  The hedge trimmer line, too
• 26:48
  thick, needed the chainsaw.
• 26:50
  That's the sound of a
• 26:51
  man whose rig got violated,
• 26:53
  and he's still trying
• 26:54
  to sound tough about it.
• 26:55
  10 out of unfiltered off-road chaos.
• 26:58
  Send the full episode so I can hear
• 27:00
  how many more branches
• 27:01
  tried to fuck his Jeep that day.
• 27:01
  So Grock likes it.
• 27:03
  I think Grock liked it.
• 27:06
  (laughing)
• 27:07
  I think Grock and I are a little bit
• 27:09
  on the same page on this one, but yeah.
• 27:11
  No, that's gotta get on.
• 27:12
  We're gonna start
• 27:13
  getting known with your,
• 27:15
  (beep)
• 27:15
  you, you
• 27:15
  (beep)
• 27:16
  and unhinged Grock are gonna
• 27:18
  be known as Jeep Talk Show,
• 27:21
  the podcast with a bad attitude.
• 27:25
  Well, we're certainly
• 27:26
  earning our explicit
• 27:27
  right answer, sure.
• 27:29
  I mean, you might as well use it.
• 27:30
  We've been doing
• 27:30
  explicit or having explicit
• 27:32
  for the length of the duration,
• 27:34
  the 16th year of a Jeep Talk Show.
• 27:37
  All right, so you guys and you, Josh,
• 27:39
  which podcast would you listen to?
• 27:42
  These are the top Jeep podcasts.
• 27:45
  Did we miss the one you
• 27:46
  really like and we should review?
• 27:48
  Let us know in the
• 27:49
  comments or better yet,
• 27:50
  go to jeeptalkshow.com slash
• 27:52
  voicemail like Josh has done
• 27:54
  and leave your video comment
• 27:56
  and we'll use it on the show.
• 27:59
  All right, Josh, I don't
• 28:00
  know if you already heard
• 28:02
  this news story or not,
• 28:03
  but hopefully some of our viewers hasn't
• 28:05
  and this will be news to
• 28:06
  them or they're a good reminder.
• 28:09
  In the Jeep news this week,
• 28:10
  Stellantis just shook
• 28:12
  things up at the top.
• 28:14
  They've named Brandon Cote
• 28:16
  and I think it's got a
• 28:18
  little accent mark over the E
• 28:19
  so I think it's Cote,
• 28:21
  Cote, Cote, Brandon Cote
• 28:24
  as the new CEO Jeep
• 28:26
  brand effective August 3rd.
• 28:28
  He's stepping in after Bob Brodendorf,
• 28:31
  I always called him Bob Brod, who is
• 28:33
  taking medical leave.
• 28:35
  Cote is a long time industry veteran
• 28:37
  and will report to Tim
• 28:40
  and I think it's Kutenis.
• 28:41
  Kutenis and if you don't know who Tim is,
• 28:44
  Tim is a long time Stellantis executive
• 28:46
  formerly of Chrysler,
• 28:48
  FCA, which means a lot
• 28:49
  more to me than Stellantis,
• 28:51
  who is currently head of America brands,
• 28:54
  Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and
• 28:55
  Ram, all the important ones.
• 28:57
  Well, Dodge, Jeep and Ram.
• 29:00
  For Stellantis North America,
• 29:01
  head of North American
• 29:02
  marketing and retail strategy.
• 29:07
  You seem to know the Tim name.
• 29:09
  I didn't know about Tim
• 29:10
  that was currently working at Stellantis.
• 29:15
  Well, when FCA, when that whole
• 29:19
  transition took over
• 29:21
  from Jeep's previous owner and went
• 29:25
  through the FCA route,
• 29:27
  yeah, well, and it's, there was a lot of,
• 29:32
  we were following a
• 29:33
  lot of what was happening
• 29:34
  in with the executives and stuff.
• 29:36
  I've seen these names in years past
• 29:39
  and sort of watching a lot
• 29:41
  of the shake up in the C-suite
• 29:43
  with Stellantis and formerly FCA,
• 29:47
  just these names sort of ring a bell.
• 29:48
  Now, do I know them
• 29:49
  on a first name basis?
• 29:50
  Do I know their history?
• 29:51
  No, but it's good to see Tim,
• 29:53
  because he's got the history.
• 29:54
  He's seen, he's been with Jeep
• 29:57
  for the last couple few owners.
• 29:59
  And I think it's a good move for them.
• 30:02
  One, because he's
• 30:03
  familiar with the brand,
• 30:05
  he knows the heritage,
• 30:06
  and he's been around long enough
• 30:08
  in the automotive community
• 30:11
  that I think that he's gonna
• 30:12
  be doing the brand a favor.
• 30:15
  Now, is this gonna be
• 30:16
  a temporary posting?
• 30:18
  I don't know, medical leave.
• 30:19
  I wasn't actually privy to the
• 30:22
  reason for the medical leave.
• 30:25
  So I don't know if this
• 30:26
  is something very serious
• 30:27
  or if it's just, well, he's got a
• 30:28
  colonoscopy this week
• 30:30
  and it might take a
• 30:31
  little while to recover.
• 30:32
  And so we're gonna step
• 30:33
  Tim in for a little bit
• 30:34
  and see how he does.
• 30:35
  No, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
• 30:36
  It's not Tim that's
• 30:38
  coming into the position.
• 30:39
  It's Brandon Cotee.
• 30:40
  Brandon is gonna be reporting to Tim.
• 30:43
  I'm sorry.
• 30:43
  Also, not in the story that I have here.
• 30:46
  Oh, reporting to Tim.
• 30:46
  Not in the story I have here,
• 30:48
  but Bob, I did read that
• 30:50
  Bob is going on medical leave,
• 30:51
  but he will return to
• 30:53
  another management style position,
• 30:55
  not the one that Brandon is going into.
• 30:58
  So it doesn't sound like
• 30:59
  it's a fatal medical leave.
• 31:01
  Okay, so it is.
• 31:04
  (laughing)
• 31:04
  Right, yeah.
• 31:05
  Well, that's always
• 31:06
  good news unto itself.
• 31:08
  Now, is this gonna be a
• 31:09
  drastic shakeup for the brand?
• 31:11
  I don't think so.
• 31:12
  I think it's gonna be a
• 31:13
  bit of a nothing burger.
• 31:15
  I think it's gonna be business as usual.
• 31:18
  We may see some changes in marketing,
• 31:20
  which might be a little
• 31:22
  bit of a breath of fresh air.
• 31:24
  I think Jeep has
• 31:25
  gotten a little bit stale
• 31:26
  in the last couple of years, as far as
• 31:28
  their marketing goes.
• 31:29
  I've told, I've said, what
• 31:31
  was it, a couple months ago,
• 31:33
  how I think they missed the mark
• 31:34
  when it came to
• 31:35
  capitalizing on America 250.
• 31:38
  And so maybe this might
• 31:40
  be the shot on the arm
• 31:43
  that Jeep needs as far as their marketing
• 31:46
  and advertising goes.
• 31:47
  So who knows?
• 31:48
  Maybe we see in the first quarter of 2027
• 31:51
  an improvement in sales,
• 31:52
  which is always a good thing
• 31:54
  when it comes to an automaker.
• 31:55
  But the first quarter historically
• 31:58
  is a tough one for automakers.
• 32:00
  So this might be one of
• 32:02
  those tales of the tape to see,
• 32:04
  is this going to be a good move that
• 32:06
  should become apparent
• 32:08
  as we roll into about
• 32:09
  March, I think of 2027.
• 32:11
  I think you'll agree with this.
• 32:13
  I think Jeep should
• 32:13
  reach out to me and you
• 32:16
  about ideas for advertisements.
• 32:18
  Like for example, Jeep
• 32:20
  talks a million dollar idea.
• 32:22
  For the 250th
• 32:23
  anniversary of the United States
• 32:25
  being the United States, I think they
• 32:28
  should have given away
• 32:29
  250 rounds of freedom
• 32:31
  seeds with every Jeep purchase.
• 32:35
  (laughing)
• 32:35
  5.56 or 2.23 with your choice.
• 32:38
  I love the idea.
• 32:40
  Yeah, you get your choice.
• 32:41
  You get your choice.
• 32:42
  Which also means you can
• 32:44
  celebrate the Fourth of July
• 32:45
  shooting your gun in the air.
• 32:48
  No, don't do that.
• 32:51
  Did I tell you that my stepson was up
• 32:54
  sealing up some things on
• 32:56
  the roof for me the other day?
• 32:58
  And he found it looked
• 32:59
  like a 380 round bullet
• 33:02
  that was stuck in one of the shingles.
• 33:05
  Now remind you, I am in Texas.
• 33:07
  Yeah, I've never seen a
• 33:09
  bullet on a roof before.
• 33:11
  Well,
• 33:14
  that's, well, I wouldn't say you're
• 33:17
  exactly up on a roof
• 33:18
  all that often, but that being said,
• 33:20
  I mean a 380 round in the
• 33:22
  roof, was it flattened out?
• 33:24
  Was it just sitting there?
• 33:24
  Was it embedded?
• 33:26
  It looks like you could reuse it.
• 33:27
  It looks like you
• 33:28
  could use it as a reload.
• 33:29
  It's in perfect condition.
• 33:30
  Of course, you know, when
• 33:31
  they go up, they're going fast,
• 33:33
  but when they come down, they're coming
• 33:34
  at terminal velocity.
• 33:35
  So I think that it
• 33:36
  just didn't have enough.
• 33:37
  I think it's around 100 miles an hour,
• 33:39
  the speed that they come down.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:43
  And tumbling too.
• 33:45
  So sure.
• 33:46
  Yeah, that's interesting.
• 33:47
  All right, well anyway, we
• 33:48
  went down a rabbit hole there.
• 33:49
  But before we continue on that,
• 33:51
  let's get back to this news story.
• 33:53
  So when this announcement
• 33:55
  came out and I was reading it,
• 33:57
  I was really hoping I was
• 33:59
  gonna see Jim Morrison's name.
• 34:04
  Oh, that would have been nice.
• 34:06
  I'd like to see Jim Morrison come back.
• 34:07
  He was such a good fit for Jeep.
• 34:09
  And he really knew what he was doing.
• 34:13
  The Jim Morrison era of Jeep
• 34:14
  is I think gonna go down in history
• 34:16
  as one of their better in modern times.
• 34:19
  And so it would be
• 34:21
  nice to see Jim come back.
• 34:23
  It would certainly do
• 34:25
  the brand a big favor,
• 34:27
  whether or not they could
• 34:28
  afford him at this point.
• 34:30
  I don't know.
• 34:30
  So if you don't remember Jim Morrison,
• 34:32
  he was the head of
• 34:34
  Jeep brand North America,
• 34:35
  also referred to as senior vice president
• 34:38
  head of Jeep brand North America.
• 34:40
  He was in that position
• 34:41
  from 2019 through 2023,
• 34:43
  but that was only when
• 34:44
  he was in that position.
• 34:45
  I believe in total he
• 34:47
  was at Jeep for 19 years.
• 34:50
  The only negative
• 34:51
  thing I could say about Jim
• 34:52
  is he's a Canadian.
• 34:54
  I'm joking.
• 34:57
  (laughs) So he led Jeep North
• 34:58
  America's operations,
• 34:59
  including sales,
• 35:00
  marketing, and product strategy
• 35:03
  and dealer relations.
• 35:04
  He oversaw the launch
• 35:05
  of several key models,
• 35:07
  grand Cherokee, et cetera,
• 35:09
  during major growth period for the brand.
• 35:12
  He was a very visible face of Jeep
• 35:15
  known as a passionate Jeep enthusiast
• 35:18
  who frequently attended events,
• 35:20
  went wheeling and communicated directly
• 35:22
  with the Jeep community.
• 35:24
  And I probably can share
• 35:25
  this now since the Jeep is not,
• 35:26
  I mean, this Jim is not,
• 35:27
  see I called him Jeep because he's so
• 35:31
  entrenched with Jeep.
• 35:32
  I can probably say this now since Jim.
• 35:34
  Jim is a jeaper.
• 35:36
  So this is pretty cool.
• 35:37
  I forget who it was that told me this,
• 35:40
  but Jim would take
• 35:41
  different Jeeps home with him
• 35:43
  so he could try them out
• 35:45
  and drive around with them
• 35:46
  because he was able to.
• 35:48
  So, and then he would contact somebody
• 35:52
  that lives close to a
• 35:53
  off-road park there in Michigan
• 35:56
  and say, call him up and say,
• 35:57
  "Hey, I need to take this Jeep off-road."
• 35:59
  So not only did he
• 36:00
  borrow a Jeep from Jeep
• 36:02
  and bring it home to drive,
• 36:04
  he'd say, "I wanna take this off-road."
• 36:06
  (laughs)
• 36:07
  So that's who I like being in charge of.
• 36:10
  Because honestly,
• 36:13
  yes, no, he was a jeaper
• 36:15
  and he was an off-road enthusiast.
• 36:17
  And that's the kind of person
• 36:19
  that Jeep needs in the C-suite.
• 36:21
  In those upper echelons
• 36:23
  of the executive levels
• 36:24
  of Jeeps upper management,
• 36:27
  they need men like Jim Morrison
• 36:29
  who know the brand, who know the vehicles
• 36:32
  and know what they're designed for
• 36:34
  and know how the end
• 36:35
  user wants to use them.
• 36:37
  And we've seen a bit of
• 36:39
  a departure from that.
• 36:40
  We've seen a little bit of a separation
• 36:42
  from that kind of
• 36:44
  involvement with the brand
• 36:46
  from the people who are making the brand.
• 36:49
  And it's, has it been a
• 36:51
  disservice to a certain extent?
• 36:52
  Yes, that's why I would
• 36:54
  love to see Jim come back
• 36:55
  because I think it would
• 36:57
  be so good for the brand
• 36:58
  to have that level of
• 37:01
  not only involvement,
• 37:02
  but appreciation for the brand
• 37:05
  and just knowledgeable
• 37:08
  about what the brand means
• 37:10
  for the end user.
• 37:11
  All right, so we'll wrap this thing up
• 37:14
  with a big question for us Jeepers.
• 37:16
  Will the new leadership
• 37:17
  bring back more exciting models,
• 37:19
  fix the current lineup issues,
• 37:21
  maybe have a fire
• 37:22
  extinguisher built in to the new Jeeps
• 37:27
  or keep pushing the
• 37:28
  electrification route?
• 37:30
  We'll be watching this one closely.
• 37:34
  All right, Josh, do you
• 37:36
  know that you could watch
• 37:38
  or listen to the Jeep
• 37:39
  talk show during your drive
• 37:40
  to work on Fridays?
• 37:42
  I'm serious.
• 37:47
  From 8 a.m.
• 37:50
  Yeah, I know about
• 37:51
  watching while you drive.
• 37:52
  So I said, no, from 6 a.m. Central time
• 37:56
  to 9 a.m. Central time.
• 37:58
  That's every Friday.
• 38:01
  Try it this week on YouTube live.
• 38:02
  It's very easy to tune in.
• 38:05
  Just go to Jeep talk show.com slash live.
• 38:07
  You can do it from your phone
• 38:08
  while you're driving to work, Josh.
• 38:11
  The hard part is
• 38:12
  remembering whenever the show's on
• 38:14
  being broadcasted live to set
• 38:17
  an alarm on your phone right
• 38:19
  now, not you Josh, you're driving,
• 38:20
  but you know, when you get to a place
• 38:22
  where you can set the alarm.
• 38:24
  6 a.m. Central time
• 38:25
  to 9 a.m. Central time.
• 38:28
  I'm up at 6, let's
• 38:31
  see, 6 a.m. Central time.
• 38:32
  That's 4 o'clock in
• 38:33
  the morning for me, Tony.
• 38:34
  You can sit in the
• 38:34
  car, you can get ready,
• 38:36
  have a cup of coffee and
• 38:37
  get ready to leave for work.
• 38:38
  You know, come get fully awake from 4,
• 38:42
  what do you leave about 8 o'clock?
• 38:45
  Well, I was, no, I'm at the house by 6.30
• 38:50
  at the very latest,
• 38:51
  so, but I was gonna say,
• 38:53
  yeah, 6 o'clock my time,
• 38:55
  if I'm on the road at
• 38:55
  6 o'clock with traffic,
• 38:56
  I should not be watching video on--
• 38:57
  You can have some self control,
• 38:59
  you can just turn them in.
• 39:00
  Something coffee, you're trying to make the commute.
• 39:02
  (laughing) No, I must have my fix.
• 39:07
  So, pick it out and I
• 39:08
  think you'll be glad
• 39:10
  that you have that, and you know,
• 39:12
  you can always just watch the show
• 39:13
  whenever you watch the show.
• 39:14
  I think it would just be fun
• 39:15
  to suck in some new viewers
• 39:18
  because they're going, holy crap,
• 39:20
  there's a Jeep show on live every Friday.
• 39:22
  This is great, I got
• 39:23
  something to do while I'm driving.
• 39:27
  Well, not only that,
• 39:29
  I think would make it
• 39:30
  a lot more interesting if
• 39:32
  more people would jump in
• 39:33
  on leaving us video voicemails.
• 39:36
  We can incorporate those
• 39:37
  into the Friday live stream
• 39:38
  and now we're talking
• 39:40
  about a whole other level
• 39:42
  of entertainment right there.
• 39:43
  Oh, and I'm just saying, we have an explicit rating.
• 39:44
  So, jeeptalkshow.com slash voicemails.
• 39:45
  Yeah, and then we do
• 39:46
  have an explicit rating.
• 39:48
  And I do know how to pixelate out things,
• 39:50
  so it would just be,
• 39:52
  this is good podcasting.
• 39:54
  All right, that's our Jeep
• 39:56
  Podcast roast session for today.
• 39:58
  Which other podcast
• 39:59
  should we review next?
• 40:01
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• 40:02
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• 40:06
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• 40:10
  You know how many people are,
• 40:13
  people are gonna actually suggest
• 40:14
  that we start reviewing Joe Rogan's show.
• 40:17
  You guys should review Joe Rogan.
• 40:19
  Maybe he'll come, but
• 40:20
  you know, have a comment
• 40:21
  and then come back on the show
• 40:23
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• 40:25
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• 40:25
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• 40:30
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• 40:32
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• 40:34
  and share, you know that same old
• 40:35
  (beep)
• 40:36
  they always tell you to
• 40:37
  do on a YouTube video.
• 40:38
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta do it too.
• 40:40
  So it really helps grow
• 40:42
  the show or show the grow.
• 40:44
  Oh, that could be
• 40:45
  something completely different.
• 40:46
  Oh, good voicemail, show the grow.
• 40:49
  Thanks for riding along and we'll see you
• 40:51
  on the next trail.
• 40:53
  Josh, thanks for making time
• 40:54
  for us each and every week.
• 40:55
  We know you got other things to do.
• 40:56
  You either do or you're driving around
• 40:58
  to make us believe you do.
• 41:00
  I'm just driving around in circles
• 41:02
  around the Portland Metro area.
• 41:03
  There's just one block.
• 41:04
  People are just like, why
• 41:05
  is this guy always here?
• 41:07
  You're my friend.
• 41:08
  You're my new friend.
• 41:10
  And you guys thought we forgot.
• 41:14
  Nope.
• 41:15
  Here is this week's
• 41:16
  (beep)
• 41:17
  you, you
• 41:18
  (beep)
• 41:19
  This one, Tony, is an interesting one.
• 41:22
  I kind of had it in the back of my mind
• 41:25
  that maybe it wouldn't happen,
• 41:27
  that maybe people had
• 41:29
  gotten some common sense together
• 41:31
  and had realized that, no, this is
• 41:34
  probably a bad idea.
• 41:36
  We shouldn't do this.
• 41:37
  You know, after you
• 41:38
  stick your hand on the stove,
• 41:39
  you kind of figure it out really quickly.
• 41:40
  Hey, you're not gonna
• 41:41
  do that again, are you?
• 41:42
  So there's been a couple
• 41:43
  of times over the years
• 41:45
  that I've seen some modifications.
• 41:46
  The Jeeps out here in
• 41:47
  the Pacific Northwest
• 41:48
  that have left me scratching my head.
• 41:50
  And this one, Tony,
• 41:51
  (beep)
• 41:52
  almighty, this one takes the cake.
• 41:54
  And this one definitely
• 41:55
  has risen up to the spot
• 41:57
  where it deserves its own place.
• 41:59
  And this week's
• 42:00
  (beep)
• 42:00
  you, you
• 42:01
  (beep)
• 42:02
  Like I said, it was only a matter of time
• 42:04
  before I figured I would
• 42:06
  see something like this.
• 42:07
  And sure enough,
• 42:08
  somebody's gone up and done it.
• 42:10
  Tony, this week, I saw somebody driving
• 42:13
  a lowered Jeep Gladiator.
• 42:16
  Somebody lowered a Gladiator.
• 42:19
  (beep)
• 42:20
  Okay, look, Jeep, the
• 42:22
  Gladiator unto itself,
• 42:23
  stock form definitely
• 42:25
  leaves a little something
• 42:26
  to be desired as far
• 42:27
  as appearance sake goes.
• 42:29
  We're all, all familiar, you know,
• 42:31
  how the Gladiator looks so much better
• 42:34
  when it's been massaged by the
• 42:35
  aftermarket a little bit.
• 42:37
  Like it's got a little bit of a lift,
• 42:38
  little bit of altitude,
• 42:39
  a little bit of attitude,
• 42:40
  the right wheels and tires,
• 42:42
  really, really makes
• 42:43
  the Gladiator wake up
• 42:45
  as far as appearance goes.
• 42:46
  The stock one, not so much.
• 42:49
  Somebody has gone up and decided,
• 42:50
  and I don't know how they
• 42:51
  did it, whether it was fat,
• 42:52
  and I wasn't about to go chase them down
• 42:54
  and have a discussion with them
• 42:55
  because that probably would
• 42:56
  have ended up leading to fists.
• 42:58
  But it was one of these
• 43:00
  things where maybe it was custom
• 43:02
  fabricated, I can't believe there's any
• 43:04
  aftermarket out there
• 43:05
  that is supporting this idea.
• 43:06
  But somebody had a lowered Gladiator,
• 43:08
  it was on like 22s with
• 43:10
  the rubber bands tires on it,
• 43:11
  no terrain, there was no MT anywhere
• 43:16
  in this vocabulary at all.
• 43:18
  The vernacular of
• 43:19
  off-roading was nowhere in existence
• 43:22
  in this person's world.
• 43:25
  So, and it wasn't like
• 43:26
  frame rails on the ground,
• 43:28
  it didn't have that mini
• 43:29
  truck kind of look to it.
• 43:31
  It was like bro
• 43:32
  dozer, like sub bro dozer.
• 43:36
  It was just weird.
• 43:37
  It had an odd look to it.
• 43:39
  It did not look right.
• 43:40
  It did not look normal.
• 43:42
  And I can only imagine how it handled.
• 43:45
  But for somebody to take the idea that,
• 43:47
  hey, let's take this
• 43:48
  four wheel drive truck
• 43:50
  from a brand who is known
• 43:52
  for its off-road prowess
• 43:54
  and lower it to the ground
• 43:56
  and slap some street tires on it,
• 43:58
  what the are you thinking?
• 43:59
  Come on, Jeep gladiators
• 44:01
  and absolutely no world
• 44:02
  whatsoever should be lowered,
• 44:04
  let alone be having
• 44:05
  rubber band tires on them
• 44:06
  and stuff like that.
• 44:08
  It's not for me, okay?
• 44:10
  There are other vehicles out there.
• 44:12
  There are other trucks.
• 44:13
  There are other rigs that yes,
• 44:14
  you can go ahead and lower it.
• 44:15
  Take a Silverado 3500, I'd give a shit.
• 44:18
  Big old fat dually.
• 44:19
  Yeah, slam it on the ground.
• 44:21
  Really trick it out.
• 44:22
  There's a time, place and
• 44:23
  manner for that sort of stuff.
• 44:24
  And it works with some rigs,
• 44:26
  but the Jeep gladiator is not that rig.
• 44:29
  We do not lower Jeeps people.
• 44:32
  Okay, maybe way back in the day,
• 44:34
  seeing something like
• 44:35
  an old J10 or something
• 44:36
  that was tubbed out or something,
• 44:37
  somebody did a little
• 44:38
  street truck action to it,
• 44:39
  a little rat rod action.
• 44:41
  I can get down with something like that.
• 44:42
  Sure, a little bit of hot rod action,
• 44:44
  some meats in the back.
• 44:45
  Sure, why not?
• 44:46
  But to have a brand new gladiator
• 44:49
  and have it chomped up in such a way
• 44:51
  that you have it lowered to the ground,
• 44:53
  no, man, no, it didn't look right.
• 44:56
  It didn't look proper.
• 44:57
  And whoever's done it, you should be
• 44:58
  ashamed of yourself.
• 44:59
  So for you out there, if you're within
• 45:02
  the sound of my voice
• 45:02
  or you know who this person is,
• 45:05
  tell them, "F*** you,
• 45:06
  you f***ing f***ing."
• 45:08
  For me.
• 45:10
  (laughs)