Latest / Built for Chaos / Episode 6 : The Way This Country Treats Its Veterans
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- 0:13Speaker 1: Thank you for your service. You've heard it. If you served,
- 0:18Speaker 1: you've had it said to you in airports and restaurants
- 0:22Speaker 1: by people who mean it and people who just say
- 0:25Speaker 1: it because it's the thing to say. Now let me
- 0:29Speaker 1: ask you a question. When that same veteran goes home
- 0:32Speaker 1: and picks up the phone to fight for the benefits
- 0:34Speaker 1: he earned, the health care he was promised, the disability
- 0:37Speaker 1: check that keeps his family whole, where's the thank you then?
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'm Brian Weatherby, 21 years in the United States Army,
- 0:46Speaker 1: two tours in Iraq, one in Afghanistan. This is Built
- 0:49Speaker 1: for Chaos, and today there is no holding back. Today
- 0:53Speaker 1: we're talking about the way this country actually treats its veterans,
- 0:58Speaker 1: not the speeches, not the flyovers, and not the treatment.
- 1:04Speaker 1: The first thing we're going to talk about is the
- 1:05Speaker 1: litmus test. Let me save you the suspense. The litmus
- 1:10Speaker 1: test is in. And veterans are not treated favorably in
- 1:13Speaker 1: this country. Not the way they should be. Not the
- 1:17Speaker 1: way the posters say. Don't judge a country by what
- 1:21Speaker 1: it says on Veterans Day. Judge it by what happens
- 1:24Speaker 1: on Tuesday in February when a veteran is on hold
- 1:27Speaker 1: with the VA for the fourth time. Judge it by
- 1:31Speaker 1: what happens in the claims office, in the hospital corridor,
- 1:35Speaker 1: in the hiring manager's inbox. That's the real test, and
- 1:39Speaker 1: we are failing it big time. Here's what I see.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Businesses love the word veteran. It's on the window. It's
- 1:48Speaker 1: in the commercial. It's in the flags on the website.
- 1:52Speaker 1: But when you look at the actual substance, the discounts,
- 1:55Speaker 1: the services, the real help that would move a veteran's
- 1:58Speaker 1: life forward, most of them, time isn't there. A parade
- 2:04Speaker 1: is cheap. A policy costs something. And this country too
- 2:08Speaker 1: often picks the parade. Now, some companies do it right.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Some people generally show up. I want to be fair
- 2:19Speaker 1: about that because fairness is what I'm asking for. But
- 2:23Speaker 1: fairness also means saying the quiet part out loud. For
- 2:27Speaker 1: a lot of this country, support the troops is a slogan,
- 2:29Speaker 1: not a practice. And the veteran carrying the weight of
- 2:33Speaker 1: the gap are the ones who already carried the weight
- 2:36Speaker 1: of everything else. And saying that, uh, I'm telling you
- 2:43Speaker 1: right now, I'm going through that with the VA right now,
- 2:46Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that in the next segment. You
- 2:49Speaker 1: shouldn't have to fight for what you earn. Let's talk
- 2:51Speaker 1: about benefits in health care because this is where the
- 2:55Speaker 1: gap between the promise and the reality goes personal. When
- 2:59Speaker 1: you raise your right hand, the deal is simple. You
- 3:02Speaker 1: give that country your years, your body, your family's hardest days.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Some give everything. Some give all. In return, the country
- 3:12Speaker 1: promises when you come home, we will take care of you.
- 3:16Speaker 1: That's the deal. It was never charity. Benefits are not
- 3:19Speaker 1: a favor. They're a debt the country owes the veteran,
- 3:24Speaker 1: and the veteran already paid for his side in full.
- 3:28Speaker 1: So why does collecting on that debt feel like a
- 3:30Speaker 1: second war for a lot of veterans? And I'll tell you,
- 3:33Speaker 1: I see it every day. Veterans fight for disability ratings
- 3:37Speaker 1: they can prove with their own medical records. They fight
- 3:41Speaker 1: denials that make no sense whatsoever. They fight war wait
- 3:46Speaker 1: times measured in months and years, which is ridiculous. That
- 3:51Speaker 1: should never happen. They fight for the system that loses
- 3:55Speaker 1: their paperwork, which should never happen. They lose the evidence
- 3:59Speaker 1: that they proved that they already had to prove, and
- 4:02Speaker 1: they also lose their files of the medical records they
- 4:07Speaker 1: turned in, and then tells them the burden of proof
- 4:10Speaker 1: is on them. which I've had that happen to me myself.
- 4:14Speaker 1: A man can carry a rucksack through two combat zones
- 4:17Speaker 1: and come home to carry a claims folder for a decade,
- 4:21Speaker 1: which is disgustingly ridiculous. Something is deeply wrong with that
- 4:27Speaker 1: picture and it shouldn't happen.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Because I can tell you right now, most veterans in
- 4:34Speaker 2: the healthcare system with the VA, there's such a backlog
- 4:37Speaker 2: and there's such a lack of care and a lack
- 4:40Speaker 2: of transparency that you're nothing but a number to them anyway.
- 4:45Speaker 1: And here's the part that burns me up the most.
- 4:48Speaker 1: When the system makes the mistake, it does not take
- 4:51Speaker 1: responsibility and accountability, which is constantly. The veteran pays for
- 4:56Speaker 1: it anyway. The check shrinks, which that has happened to me,
- 5:00Speaker 1: and I'm going through it right now. And the appointment slides,
- 5:04Speaker 1: and the veteran is told to wait, to be patient.
- 5:08Speaker 1: To understand there's a process, which they didn't make the mistake.
- 5:12Speaker 1: The VA made the mistake, which they don't take accountability
- 5:15Speaker 1: and responsibility. I know I've dealt with them. And it
- 5:19Speaker 1: should never happen. It's disgusting. A process we didn't get
- 5:24Speaker 1: to understand. There's a process. When the country called, we went.
- 5:29Speaker 1: The least the country could do is move with the
- 5:31Speaker 1: same urgency when we call back. They don't do that.
- 5:36Speaker 1: I was told recently when I had to file a
- 5:39Speaker 1: claim for my spouse's support because they stopped it when
- 5:42Speaker 1: I turned in my spouse's support and the evidence they
- 5:45Speaker 1: asked for in August of 2025 that I had to wait,
- 5:51Speaker 1: refile for more spouse's support, and that it'll get approved
- 5:55Speaker 1: when it gets approved and they'll back pay me, which
- 5:57Speaker 1: I think is ridiculous. Because let me tell you something.
- 6:01Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong. I did exactly what they
- 6:03Speaker 1: told me to. I turned in the verification like they
- 6:05Speaker 1: told me to, and I was told that it was
- 6:08Speaker 1: turned in in August of 2025, which is in the
- 6:10Speaker 1: VA's computer when you call the hotline for disability benefits.
- 6:15Speaker 1: They told me that I've called numerous times and every
- 6:18Speaker 1: time I was told that, so it's definitely in the system,
- 6:21Speaker 1: but their explanation of what happened is that, uh, I
- 6:27Speaker 1: like they don't even want to admit they made a mistake.
- 6:29Speaker 1: It's basically saying that I didn't prove what I had
- 6:31Speaker 1: to prove, which I don't understand. If it's in your
- 6:33Speaker 1: system and you told me to do something and I
- 6:35Speaker 1: did it, how did I not do what you asked
- 6:37Speaker 1: me to do? And then on top of that, when
- 6:40Speaker 1: I asked him, you know, when are you going to
- 6:42Speaker 1: expedite this or when can this be escalated? They told
- 6:44Speaker 1: me that it's not that's not going to happen. That's
- 6:47Speaker 1: not the way they do business. The way they do
- 6:49Speaker 1: business is if it creates a hardship. Then they'll escalate it.
- 6:53Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. You take money out
- 6:55Speaker 1: of my pocket that I use to pay my bills
- 6:59Speaker 1: with the benefits that I earned and I went to
- 7:01Speaker 1: war with and I earned them. And the injuries I sustained,
- 7:05Speaker 1: they're proven through combat and that are actually service related.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I have to wait for you to tell me that
- 7:12Speaker 1: you're going to pay me and that if it creates
- 7:15Speaker 1: a problem, that's my problem. That's bullshit. That should never happen.
- 7:19Speaker 1: People who work at the VA to tell people that
- 7:22Speaker 1: and go by the little script they're handed, they should
- 7:24Speaker 1: be fired immediately. And the VA should be ashamed of
- 7:28Speaker 1: herself for treating veterans like that. That should never frigging happen.
- 7:32Speaker 1: They do it on a daily basis. When I go
- 7:34Speaker 1: to the VA, it's disgusting to see how they treat
- 7:37Speaker 1: some of the people there. Some of the people that
- 7:39Speaker 1: work there are rotten to the core. They don't belong
- 7:42Speaker 1: in that kind of service industry. They don't belong to
- 7:44Speaker 1: service veterans and they don't belong to even have the
- 7:47Speaker 1: honor of servicing veterans because they don't even want to
- 7:49Speaker 1: be there. Their attitudes are horrible. They act like they're
- 7:53Speaker 1: a burden to them. And I'm not making this up.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you, there's a lot of veterans
- 7:59Speaker 1: out there that would agree with everything I said. We
- 8:01Speaker 1: have veterans that literally commit suicide in VA parking lots
- 8:06Speaker 1: because they can't get the care that they need. We
- 8:09Speaker 1: have veterans that are committing suicide in numbers that far,
- 8:14Speaker 1: far below go above what happened in combat. People are
- 8:19Speaker 1: killing themselves and, and succumbing to whatever deemings they're fighting
- 8:24Speaker 1: because they're not getting the proper healthcare. And these are
- 8:27Speaker 1: people that have done more for this country than some
- 8:29Speaker 1: people will ever dream of. And that, that is disgusting.
- 8:33Speaker 1: That should not happen. The next thing we're going to
- 8:39Speaker 1: talk about is my own fight, which I just, I
- 8:41Speaker 1: briefly touched on, uh, I'm not telling you somebody else's
- 8:46Speaker 1: story today. I'm telling you mine because mine is happening
- 8:49Speaker 1: right now. Like I said, while I'm recording this episode,
- 8:53Speaker 1: I am 100% service-connected disabled to the VA. 21 years
- 8:59Speaker 1: of service will do that to your body. Trust me,
- 9:02Speaker 1: I know I feel it every day. Part of my
- 9:05Speaker 1: compensation includes a benefit for my wife, which I basically,
- 9:09Speaker 1: I'm going into it a little more in depth so
- 9:11Speaker 1: people understand it, because I'm married. I've been married to
- 9:14Speaker 1: my wife, Estrelita, since Valentine's Day of 2017. That is
- 9:18Speaker 1: a fact that is documented and the VA knows it.
- 9:23Speaker 1: The VA stopped my spousal benefit. Listen to what I
- 9:27Speaker 1: just said again. The VA stopped my spousal benefit. They
- 9:31Speaker 1: stopped it. And then when I got on the phone
- 9:35Speaker 1: and pushed, here's what I learned. The VA admitted they
- 9:38Speaker 1: received the verification that I am married. Verification that got
- 9:42Speaker 1: back in August of 2025, which I had stated earlier.
- 9:46Speaker 1: They have it. It's in their system. They've had it
- 9:50Speaker 1: in their system. And in their hands, by their own admission,
- 9:56Speaker 1: they admitted it's in their system. And what do I do?
- 10:00Speaker 1: when I call there? You have to wait. That's the
- 10:03Speaker 1: answer I get. Wait for what? That's my answer or
- 10:07Speaker 1: my question. There's nothing to verify. You've already verified what
- 10:11Speaker 1: you had to verify. You admitted it. It says they
- 10:14Speaker 1: verified it. There's nothing to investigate. They admitted they investigated.
- 10:19Speaker 1: The mistake was clearly made by the VA. And they've
- 10:23Speaker 1: done this to many veterans, not just myself. Trust me,
- 10:25Speaker 1: I hear it every day. And my position is any
- 10:29Speaker 1: fair person, as any fair person would take, especially if
- 10:33Speaker 1: it was them and their money and their problems, they
- 10:35Speaker 1: would be doing the same thing. If the mistake was
- 10:37Speaker 1: made by the VA, it should be fixed immediately. Not
- 10:40Speaker 1: when they feel like fixing it, immediately. Not eventually. Not
- 10:45Speaker 1: when they get around to it. Not when the cue
- 10:48Speaker 1: gets to me. immediately because the mistake was clearly made
- 10:52Speaker 1: on the VA's part. And they do this with a
- 10:54Speaker 1: lot of veterans. And that's why a lot of veterans
- 10:56Speaker 1: are fed up, fed up. Every month that check is short.
- 11:01Speaker 1: That's my family's money, not their money, but they use
- 11:05Speaker 1: it for whatever they decide they want to use it
- 11:07Speaker 1: for because they didn't pay me or the other veterans
- 11:11Speaker 1: that they did this to. Taken by error, the VA
- 11:14Speaker 1: already confessed to and the interest on the air that
- 11:17Speaker 1: is paid by me, which has already been paid in
- 11:20Speaker 1: full by the service to my country. In patience, I'm
- 11:24Speaker 1: supposed to be manufacturer out of thin air, which is ridiculous.
- 11:29Speaker 1: I've tried to be patient with these people, and every
- 11:30Speaker 1: time you call there, you get to run around. You
- 11:32Speaker 1: get a different story or a different script. So that's
- 11:36Speaker 1: the thing I just don't understand. Now, understand, I am
- 11:41Speaker 1: one man, and I know how to fight. I have
- 11:44Speaker 1: a voice. I have this microphone and I'm not going away.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And I'm here to advocate on behalf of all veterans,
- 11:53Speaker 1: not just myself. But think about the veteran who doesn't
- 11:56Speaker 1: do that and just allows it to happen. Think about
- 12:00Speaker 1: the older vet that's sick and he can't do that.
- 12:02Speaker 1: He can't do these things on his own and take
- 12:04Speaker 1: care of himself. And the VA is getting over or
- 12:07Speaker 1: any system that he has to deal with on a
- 12:10Speaker 1: daily basis is getting over. The vet working two jobs
- 12:13Speaker 1: who can't spend his lunch break on hold because he's
- 12:16Speaker 1: at work. Multiply my phone call by every veteran in
- 12:23Speaker 1: this country in the same chair staring at the same wall.
- 12:28Speaker 1: That's not a glitch in the system. That is the system,
- 12:31Speaker 1: and that is not acceptable in any means. If you're
- 12:37Speaker 1: a veteran listening to this, And you're in your own
- 12:42Speaker 1: version of this fight. Don't just sit there on hold.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Work every door the VA benefits line has. And I
- 12:50Speaker 1: have called this number many times. And trust me, you're
- 12:54Speaker 1: probably going to have to call there more than once.
- 12:56Speaker 1: You're probably going to have to call there and you're
- 12:57Speaker 1: going to have to raise some hell because you're not
- 13:00Speaker 1: always going to get the answer you want. The number
- 13:03Speaker 1: is 1-800-827-1000. Get it in writing through va.gov. Paper trails
- 13:11Speaker 1: don't evaporate the way the phone call does. They say
- 13:15Speaker 1: they record the phone calls for your protection and that
- 13:20Speaker 1: they're helping you, but don't always trust that because that
- 13:23Speaker 1: doesn't always happen. Make sure you get it in writing.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Get a veteran service officer through the DAV, Disabled Veterans
- 13:31Speaker 1: of America, or the VFW, the Veteran Foreign Wars, or
- 13:35Speaker 1: the American Legion. Accredited reps who can look into your files.
- 13:40Speaker 1: For free. You won't have to pay any money. And
- 13:44Speaker 1: that's a huge benefit to people that serve this country.
- 13:48Speaker 1: And if the VA error is admitted and still not fixed,
- 13:52Speaker 1: call your congressman's office. Sometimes you have to get your
- 13:55Speaker 1: congressman involved. They will get involved. Constituent caseworkers open inquiries
- 14:01Speaker 1: with the VA. They have to answer them in writing.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Sunlight moves files. Use all of them. I am. I've
- 14:11Speaker 1: also reached out to the inspector general's office at the VA.
- 14:15Speaker 1: You can also use them because what happened here is
- 14:18Speaker 1: ridiculous and it happens to too many veterans. And that's
- 14:21Speaker 1: the reason a lot of veterans have the beliefs they
- 14:24Speaker 1: have about the VA healthcare system. The job front. That's
- 14:29Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about next. The same story
- 14:31Speaker 1: plays out in the job market. Corporate America loves to
- 14:35Speaker 1: say we hire veterans. There's a banner. There's a program.
- 14:40Speaker 1: There's a smiling photo on the careers page. And some
- 14:43Speaker 1: of these programs are real. There are companies out there
- 14:46Speaker 1: that do take care of veterans. And I'll never take
- 14:49Speaker 1: that away from the ones doing it right. But too
- 14:52Speaker 1: many veterans find out the banner is where the commitment ends.
- 14:57Speaker 1: It's not true. They use veterans for whatever benefits they
- 15:00Speaker 1: can get out of them. The kickbacks, the government funding
- 15:04Speaker 1: they get for hiring veterans. Here's what a veteran actually
- 15:08Speaker 1: runs into. A resume written in a language the civilian
- 15:11Speaker 1: world refuses to learn. If you're going to hire veterans,
- 15:15Speaker 1: you might want to learn the lingo. You might want
- 15:17Speaker 1: to understand what veterans are talking about, because there is
- 15:20Speaker 1: definitely a barrier there. 21 years of leading people, running
- 15:25Speaker 1: operations worth millions, making decisions where the stakes, where life
- 15:30Speaker 1: and death, that's the possible outcome, translated into doesn't have
- 15:35Speaker 1: industry experience, a hiring process that once The veteran's discipline,
- 15:40Speaker 1: but not the veteran's directness and age. Don't get me
- 15:45Speaker 1: started on age. I've seen plenty of veterans get passed
- 15:48Speaker 1: over because of their age. I hired a man in
- 15:52Speaker 1: my plant this year, a Marine, 60 years old, who
- 15:56Speaker 1: had been judged and passed over because of his number
- 15:59Speaker 1: on his birth certificate, which is ridiculous. Because that man
- 16:03Speaker 1: is 60 years old, and he works harder than some
- 16:05Speaker 1: of the people that are in their 30s in the
- 16:07Speaker 1: plant that I work in. The guy he replaced, he
- 16:12Speaker 1: does 10 times the amount of work that he did
- 16:15Speaker 1: when he was there. He's one of the best hires
- 16:19Speaker 1: I've ever made in the plant so far since I've
- 16:22Speaker 1: been there. His story is in episode 5 of this show,
- 16:26Speaker 1: and it ought to shame every hiring manager who looked
- 16:32Speaker 1: at him and did not see what he was capable
- 16:36Speaker 1: of instead of a date and what they associated with
- 16:40Speaker 1: that man. That's absurd. A veteran isn't a charity case.
- 16:47Speaker 1: He isn't a photo opportunity. He's a person you want
- 16:53Speaker 1: standing next to you when things go bad. Trust me,
- 16:56Speaker 1: they know how to handle things. They've been experienced. They're
- 16:58Speaker 1: very seasoned. Because things going bad is literally his training.
- 17:03Speaker 1: That's what they've been through. His or her training. They've
- 17:06Speaker 1: been through all of it. They've been through things you
- 17:08Speaker 1: can never even dream of. If your company says it
- 17:11Speaker 1: supports veterans, the proof is in, it's not in a banner.
- 17:15Speaker 1: It's not in a flyer. It's not in a job
- 17:18Speaker 1: fair where you advertise that you take care of veterans.
- 17:21Speaker 1: The proof is the callback, the interview, the offer, and
- 17:24Speaker 1: the promotion after you hire them based off what they're
- 17:28Speaker 1: capable of and what they bring to the table and
- 17:30Speaker 1: the value they bring to your organization. And to the
- 17:34Speaker 1: veteran on the job hunt right now, I see you.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Trust me, I look at that every day. When I'm
- 17:40Speaker 1: trying to hire people, I'm in it with you. I've
- 17:44Speaker 1: been through it myself. I know, I know what you
- 17:47Speaker 1: deal with. I know a lot of people in the
- 17:51Speaker 1: hiring manager positions, they take us as a threat because
- 17:54Speaker 1: they know what we're capable of, or they just don't
- 17:56Speaker 1: feel comfortable with the fact that we do have a
- 18:00Speaker 1: lot of training and that we're capable of doing a
- 18:02Speaker 1: lot of things that other people won't be able to.
- 18:04Speaker 1: And they see us as a threat, which is ridiculous
- 18:06Speaker 1: because we'd be nothing but an asset to that team
- 18:08Speaker 1: and that organization. I'm on my own hunt while I'm
- 18:13Speaker 1: running the plant that I'm running. And I know the
- 18:16Speaker 1: silence after the application. And I know what it costs
- 18:19Speaker 1: to keep swinging and keep swinging. The right door does
- 18:25Speaker 1: exist for all of us. You just have to be patient.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I know sometimes that doesn't always seem the right way
- 18:30Speaker 1: to do things, but that's the way to handle it.
- 18:33Speaker 1: And when you get through it, hire the next veteran
- 18:37Speaker 1: behind you if you're a hiring manager. That's how we
- 18:41Speaker 1: build the thing nobody built for us. And you carry
- 18:44Speaker 1: it forward. We got to take care of each other.
- 18:47Speaker 1: We got to look out for each other. We did
- 18:50Speaker 1: it in the military. Now it's time to do it
- 18:52Speaker 1: in the civilian world. We all know that. We all
- 18:56Speaker 1: took that oath and we know what that means to
- 18:58Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters. If you're looking for help on
- 19:03Speaker 1: the work front, Hire Heroes USA, hiresheroesusa.org. Free one-on-one resume translations,
- 19:12Speaker 1: which any type of resume translation for somebody who's coming
- 19:15Speaker 1: out of the military and going into the civilian world
- 19:18Speaker 1: is huge. It helps, and it can help you get
- 19:21Speaker 1: that job. It also helps you get interviews. This organization
- 19:27Speaker 1: also helps with interview prep, which is very important, believe
- 19:30Speaker 1: it or not. I've used it in many of the
- 19:32Speaker 1: jobs that I've had. For veterans and military spouses as well,
- 19:37Speaker 1: military spouses can also use this organization, which is a
- 19:40Speaker 1: great help. The American Job Centers through the Department of
- 19:45Speaker 1: Labor's VETS program do the same in person, free to use.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Use them. Use these tools to get the jobs that
- 19:53Speaker 1: you're looking for. Use them to help you write your
- 19:56Speaker 1: resume and make people understand what you're capable of and
- 19:59Speaker 1: translate those military terms into civilian terms so that they
- 20:03Speaker 1: understand when the hiring manager has your resume and what
- 20:06Speaker 1: they know you're capable of and they make the right
- 20:09Speaker 1: decision and they hire you. The next thing I'm gonna
- 20:14Speaker 1: talk about is what I'm asking for. I'm not asking
- 20:17Speaker 1: for pity and no veteran here is either. Pity is
- 20:21Speaker 1: worthless in my opinion. What I'm asking for is simpler
- 20:25Speaker 1: and harder. Keep the promise. A lot of these organizations
- 20:30Speaker 1: and a lot of people in society nowadays, they promise
- 20:33Speaker 1: that they're gonna take care of veterans They promise that
- 20:36Speaker 1: they care about veterans. Like I said, I can say
- 20:39Speaker 1: whatever I want to say. That doesn't mean I'm telling
- 20:42Speaker 1: you the truth. The actions speak louder than words. We
- 20:46Speaker 1: all know that. When a veteran's benefit is cut by mistake,
- 20:50Speaker 1: fix it like it matters. Because to that family, it does.
- 20:57Speaker 1: When a veteran applies for a job, judge the record,
- 21:01Speaker 1: not the stereotype like we already talked about. When a
- 21:05Speaker 1: business puts a flag in a window, let there be
- 21:08Speaker 1: something real standing behind it, not just a flag in
- 21:11Speaker 1: the window. And when the veteran speaks, do the thing
- 21:17Speaker 1: this country is worst at. Listen the way corporations get
- 21:22Speaker 1: listened to. Because a veteran's voice should carry weight in
- 21:26Speaker 1: the country he carried weight for and fought for. Some
- 21:30Speaker 1: died for. That's what it shows. And that's what it's for.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Built for Chaos is a platform for where veterans get heard,
- 21:41Speaker 1: your experiences, your flights, your stories, and your own words.
- 21:45Speaker 1: So here's my ask, and I mean it. Tell me.
- 21:50Speaker 1: How the country has treated you. The good, the bad,
- 21:56Speaker 1: the VA story. The job. The story that you want
- 22:01Speaker 1: to tell that you never said out loud. Write to me.
- 22:06Speaker 1: You can write to Build for Chaos at P.O. Box
- 22:10Speaker 1: 3066 Easton, PA 18043. If you don't feel comfortable coming
- 22:17Speaker 1: on to the show and talking about your experience, you
- 22:19Speaker 1: can definitely write to me. And with your permission, I'll
- 22:22Speaker 1: put your story out there. I'll let people know what
- 22:25Speaker 1: you're thinking. I'll let people know what your experiences are
- 22:27Speaker 1: if you want me to. I have no problem doing that.
- 22:30Speaker 1: That's what we're here for. Or reach me through the
- 22:33Speaker 1: show page. Until we're live streaming, Your letters are the
- 22:37Speaker 1: mic and I will read what you send me because
- 22:41Speaker 1: these stories deserve room where they're believed for the first
- 22:45Speaker 1: time and people need to hear them. They learn from them.
- 22:49Speaker 1: We also are inspired by your stories and we can
- 22:52Speaker 1: learn from them as well. And that saying that, you know,
- 22:57Speaker 1: I used to have a good friend of mine who
- 23:00Speaker 1: passed away a couple of years ago. His name was
- 23:02Speaker 1: Wesley Massey. He advocated for veterans in the craziest of ways.
- 23:10Speaker 1: At times, I thought he was fanatical. He was a
- 23:13Speaker 1: great guy. He would give you the shirt off his back.
- 23:17Speaker 1: He lived in Texas. He died in a car accident, tragically.
- 23:26Speaker 1: But I can tell you that After he retired from
- 23:29Speaker 1: the military, he joined all kinds of organizations. I know
- 23:32Speaker 1: he was a commander of one of his VFW posts. Um,
- 23:37Speaker 1: he worked for the DAV. He worked for many veterans organizations. Um,
- 23:42Speaker 1: he was a very big part of the VFW in
- 23:44Speaker 1: the town that he lived in. Uh, he also advocated
- 23:48Speaker 1: with businesses that claimed they would help veterans. And, um,
- 23:52Speaker 1: In no way, shape, or form am I saying that
- 23:55Speaker 1: every business out there doesn't help veterans. But there are
- 23:57Speaker 1: a lot of businesses out there that they're full of shit.
- 24:00Speaker 1: They don't care about veterans. The only thing they care
- 24:03Speaker 1: about is what they can get as far as kickbacks
- 24:06Speaker 1: for veterans. And a lot of agencies use veterans as
- 24:10Speaker 1: a way to advertise that they take care of the
- 24:12Speaker 1: community and that they care about veterans. And they don't care.
- 24:15Speaker 1: They could care less. I can say Wesley Massey. he
- 24:20Speaker 1: would go out there and he would talk to businesses
- 24:23Speaker 1: and he, he had a way of talking to him
- 24:26Speaker 1: to where he could get them to, you know, there
- 24:29Speaker 1: was a veteran in the, in the community that didn't
- 24:31Speaker 1: have the money to put a roof on their house.
- 24:33Speaker 1: He would talk to these businesses and they would put
- 24:35Speaker 1: roofs on their houses. Um, these businesses, once they did
- 24:39Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, they had more business than they
- 24:41Speaker 1: know what to deal with because they put their money
- 24:43Speaker 1: where their mouth was. The actions actually spoke louder than
- 24:46Speaker 1: the words they were saying. Uh, There was people that
- 24:49Speaker 1: needed concrete work in their neighborhoods that they couldn't afford
- 24:53Speaker 1: the concrete work. He would go out and he would
- 24:55Speaker 1: talk to them. He would reach out to these businesses
- 24:58Speaker 1: in the community, and somehow he would get them to
- 25:02Speaker 1: go out and help them with the concrete work. And
- 25:05Speaker 1: like I said, in no way, shape, or form is
- 25:07Speaker 1: any veteran that's listening to this expects somebody to do
- 25:11Speaker 1: something for free. But, you know, in my opinion, if
- 25:15Speaker 1: I owned my own business, I would tell you that
- 25:18Speaker 1: If I could help somebody and I knew it was
- 25:20Speaker 1: going to help them, it's more important to me to
- 25:23Speaker 1: help them to me worried about making dollars off them.
- 25:26Speaker 1: And just because they're a veteran, I think they have money,
- 25:29Speaker 1: which is crap. That's bullshit. There's a lot of misconception
- 25:33Speaker 1: there because that's not always true. And basically helping that family,
- 25:40Speaker 1: you're going to see other members of your community realize
- 25:42Speaker 1: that you really do mean that you want to help
- 25:45Speaker 1: veterans and you'll have more business than you know what
- 25:48Speaker 1: to do with. I guarantee you, you don't have to
- 25:50Speaker 1: listen to me. I can just tell you from experience
- 25:53Speaker 1: that if you do this, it does work. Because I
- 25:56Speaker 1: saw some of the things he did when he was
- 25:58Speaker 1: doing it, and it was phenomenal. Some of the things
- 26:00Speaker 1: he got these businesses to do and somehow agreed to
- 26:04Speaker 1: do and help veterans. And it was breathtaking to watch it.
- 26:11Speaker 1: And the look on their faces when they got the
- 26:13Speaker 1: help they needed. There's organizations out there. that they build
- 26:18Speaker 1: houses for veterans. Tunnel to Towers is one of them.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Veterans that their family members are killed in combat. They
- 26:28Speaker 1: pay off mortgages for people. That's the kind of outreach
- 26:31Speaker 1: we're talking about here. Yes, I do understand that every
- 26:35Speaker 1: business can't do that. And I do understand that it
- 26:37Speaker 1: does cost money to run a business. But the things
- 26:41Speaker 1: that you're asked to do to help these veterans are
- 26:44Speaker 1: Imagine what they did when they were in combat. Imagine
- 26:47Speaker 1: the things they had to face and imagine the things
- 26:50Speaker 1: they're going through when they came home and nobody's taking
- 26:52Speaker 1: care of them. Because that's exactly what's going on. A
- 26:57Speaker 1: lot of country or a lot of these companies say
- 26:59Speaker 1: they take care of veterans or a lot of these
- 27:01Speaker 1: organizations say they take care of veterans and they're lying.
- 27:04Speaker 1: They're not telling the truth. The only people they're lying
- 27:06Speaker 1: to is themselves. And then they get offended when people
- 27:10Speaker 1: like myself on the microphone are telling the truth and
- 27:13Speaker 1: they don't want to hear it. Well, you need to
- 27:16Speaker 1: wake up. You need to wake up and you need
- 27:19Speaker 1: to start practicing what you preach because if you don't
- 27:21Speaker 1: do that, guess what? You got nobody to blame but yourself.
- 27:24Speaker 1: So let's get together and work in these communities and
- 27:27Speaker 1: start helping the veterans the way we claim we're going
- 27:29Speaker 1: to help them and the actions speak louder than words.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Stop telling people what you're going to do and start
- 27:36Speaker 1: doing it. Start helping the veterans that need the help
- 27:40Speaker 1: and get them the help that they need because I'm
- 27:43Speaker 1: telling you, it's going to pay off tenfold for you
- 27:47Speaker 1: and the veterans in your community. They're going to spread
- 27:49Speaker 1: the word like there's no tomorrow. So resources that are
- 27:55Speaker 1: available that I do on every show and every episode,
- 27:59Speaker 1: if you're struggling and you're a veteran or not, people
- 28:02Speaker 1: are available to help you right now. If you're a
- 28:05Speaker 1: veteran in crisis or you're worried about one, dial 988
- 28:08Speaker 1: and then press one. Once again, dial 988 and then
- 28:09Speaker 1: press one. Free, confidential, 24-7. You don't have to be
- 28:17Speaker 1: enrolled in VA health care to call that number or
- 28:20Speaker 1: text that number. You can also text it at 838-255.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Once again, that's 838-255. If you're anyone in crisis, call
- 28:35Speaker 1: or text 988. The Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, free and confidential, 24-7.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Like I said, you don't have to be a veteran
- 28:43Speaker 1: to call that number or text that number. Or text
- 28:47Speaker 1: HOME to 741741 to reach the crisis text line. Don't
- 28:54Speaker 1: go through it alone. I told you at the top
- 28:58Speaker 1: of the show, no holding back today. This country asks
- 29:02Speaker 1: everything of its veterans and then too often asks them
- 29:05Speaker 1: to wait quietly for what is theirs. Not anymore. Not
- 29:11Speaker 1: on this show, not in real life. That should never happen.
- 29:16Speaker 1: You want to thank a veteran for their service? Here's
- 29:19Speaker 1: how you fix that. Fix the claim, make the callback,
- 29:23Speaker 1: keep the promise. That's the thank you that counts. That's
- 29:26Speaker 1: the thank you that matters. I'm Brian Weatherby. This is
- 29:30Speaker 1: Built for Chaos. If this episode is your story too,
- 29:35Speaker 1: share it with one person who needs to hear they're
- 29:39Speaker 1: not crazy anymore. they're not alone, especially a veteran in
- 29:42Speaker 1: the middle of their own fight with the system that
- 29:45Speaker 1: failed them miserably. Remember always, there's a bulldog in all
- 29:50Speaker 1: of us. Today, let it bite. See you on the
- 29:54Speaker 1: next episode. Stay blessed and have a great night. Thank you.