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James Talarico Off the Campaign Trail, Mamdani vs. Mullin on ICE, and Vince Coglianese · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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  KSEV Mornings with Craig Coglianese and Wayne Dolcefino, The Voice of Texas, Houston talk radio.
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  El Cefino
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  KSEV radio
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  You know what's really funny about this this is the mob guys
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  I got a probably mute this so that that doesn't happen twice because you're gonna get me feeding two places now
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  It's fine now. It's fine for gonna
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  KSEV radio, the voice of Texas.
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  What's funny about this is Wayne, just before that last break,
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  said he wanted to run down to the lobby
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  and grab himself an iced coffee, I think is what he said.
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  And now we have his screen back up and it's just empty.
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  And he probably is, like making a waffle or doing something.
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  Because free breakfast is hard to pass up.
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  If you go to a hotel, you got to get the free breakfast.
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  Even though it's not that, can I,
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  I'm going to say that to Russell.
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  It's not that good.
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  Like most of the continental breakfasts at the places that we go.
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  Yeah, there's something my wife always gets so excited when we're booking a hotel and it offers free breakfast
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  And I always think like we're gonna go somewhere else
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  I know we're gonna wake up we're gonna have a little and then we're still gonna go somewhere else because it's gonna be terrible
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just I don't know why she gets so excited
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  That's she loves that in a pool and she almost never swims, but she just loves the idea of those things
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  Which is adorable. I don't know what way to do. Maybe he jumped in the pool, too
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  I would not want to see him show up back in the hotel room in the pool shorts and whatnot.
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  You know, he did make a joke.
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  I'm probably not supposed to say this on the radio, but I'm going to.
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  And I don't think Wayne will care.
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  He made a joke about how he contemplated doing the show without pants this morning because
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  he was in his hotel and he said, we wouldn't have seen it.
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  And I was like, I don't know.
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  And we started talking about Jeffrey Tubman, who got in trouble for something very different
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  than just not having pants on.
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  And I don't want that to be the controversy that gets KSEV more attention.
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  I don't want Wayne Dolcefino to go viral for a pantless moment on the internet.
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  But we are also up on his Facebook page, and he's not here.
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  I told me he had enough time.
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  I don't know why I did that.
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  I think I made a heavy mistake, assuming that it would be a quicker trip than it was.
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  You can call in and be a part of the show if you want to.
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  That is something that we do all the time.
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  I usually have a veteran voice at 8.30.
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  We don't have one booked for this week for a couple reasons.
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  and some scheduling things with someone
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  that I really wanted to get on,
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  and then probably me not being fast enough
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  in finding a replacement guest,
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  because I still have a ridiculous amount of,
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  I think I might have heard Wayne.
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  Yeah, there's Wayne, he's sitting back down at the seat.
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  Did you go to the Continental Breakfast?
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  I don't know if he can even hear me yet.
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  Was it more than just the coffee?
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  Did you hit the like eggs machine or the-
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  You gonna make a waffle?
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  Did you go make a homemade waffle?
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  No, no, there were three women in front of me.
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  Uh-huh.
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  And I like women, and I think this is someone who like women.
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  But like, she's like trying to decide whether she wants like a strudel or a ben, and I'm
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  going like honey.
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  I've got to get on the roof.
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  I said, I said, Russell and Craig are probably saying, where the hell did you go?
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  The good news is, I always get a room right by the elevator because I'm old and handicapped,
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  right?
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  And I don't want to you ever go to those hotels and it's like you have to walk like a mile
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  Yeah, so so if I had to be in a regular room and I wasn't special wasn't Wayne Dolcefino
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  You know legend right? I get his face. You are a legend. That's not a joke continue
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  I get a special room right by the elevator. Nice. That's awesome
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  So you have do you ever have to use a fake name when you go somewhere or no?
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  Vinny bubas no Vinny bubas. Yeah, I didn't know I didn't know if Wayne Dolcefino ever has to check into a hotel with a fake name
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  You know what cuz I don't care if you like me. I in fact I like being in rooms of people who hate me
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  I that's fine. Well, I was also gonna ask you about the three ladies downstairs. Are they the same ones from in your room?
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  Did you guys all go downstairs?
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  She wanted a paying cash and they don't take cash anymore now
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  They don't you know, we're getting rid of nickels now. We're getting rid of got rid of pennies
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  So we're gonna nickels now and we don't say we don't use cash
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  Now you feel like an idiot now when some valet guy or something goes, waiting for a tip,
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  like two bucks or something.
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  I don't have any cash.
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  I don't have any money for cash anymore.
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  It was just mentioned in the news, so I wanted to bring it up with you because we were talking
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  about it off the air a lot too.
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  James Talarico has been missing from the campaign trail, I think, for 13 days now.
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  Trump made fun of it yesterday, again, saying we don't know where he is.
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  the Ken Paxton online campaign, version of his campaign that's online has been hammering
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  it I think quite well. I don't know if there's a lot of really good clips of Paxton out there
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  attacking the idea. He wanted a proof of life. He spoke at some rally, Paxton,
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  and he actually was kind of funny. Oh, you like that. Okay, we can try to find a way that. And
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  communicator as people say. The people around him seem to think he is and
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  which is why I do not understand for the life of me why they aren't leaning
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  in to what is his best qualities. I don't mean talking. I don't I mean what
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  he's done. Well I said this I don't know if this is a like I don't intend this to
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  be a shot. It just is the truth. When it comes to like Paxton and being faithful,
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  he is quite faithful to the Republican Party and he's quite faithful to Trump.
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  I know it's me, I know it's a bad way to couch it, but it's true.
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  That was a bad way to couch it. Well it's true though. It's true though because if you want someone that's not
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  gonna be a John Cornyn and not gonna do the things that you attend, you
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  potentially don't want them to do, say no to things like the Save America Act, it
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  is Paxton. When you look at his political record and his career, he's
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  someone who's very reliable and trustworthy.
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  And the reason I say it that way, by the way, Wayne, is to demonstrate that the thing the
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  left is trying to do is trying to convince the right that he's not someone you can trust
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  in Washington.
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  And I think I can trust Ken Paxton in Washington.
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  And I think that you need to say that to demonstrate the value of why you vote for him.
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  Yeah, look, I don't care if you put a stool there.
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  If it's a stool that votes the way I think and the way our viewers think, I don't care
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  I don't care if he even can talk.
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  I don't care if he's McConnell.
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  I have to wheel him in and wheel him out after every vote.
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  As long as he does.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  Angela Paxton's right about one thing.
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  There's a red team and a blue team.
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  Should there be more teams?
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  But there's definitely a red team and a blue team.
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  And it's not even a close call anymore.
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  We really now are debating things
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  that I never thought would be even an issue in this country.
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  Like we were talking early this morning
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  about the Middle East stuff.
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  It's like, what?
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  Like really?
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  Like we're in a Senate debate in Michigan
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  and the guy can't answer the question
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  of whether Iran or Israel is more dangerous.
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  Can you imagine even 10 years ago,
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  that being a question that everybody couldn't hit
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  out of the park. I mean the answer is a Rand, but we're it's also fair to
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  criticize our allies when we think they do things wrong. That's the answer.
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  It's not even a close call. Yeah, you know what's really interesting about what you
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  just said? A lot of the show, if we look back at it, like talking about the six
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  year old who shot his teacher and then cursed at the cops, like there's a lot
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  of things that we're seeing right now that it's just sort of unbelievable that
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  these are the kind of places that we're in in these discussions and why some of what
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  the right cheers for and champions like bringing morality back into our country would be a
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  great thing.
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  It wouldn't be bad at all.
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  Go ahead, Wayne.
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  And that's why, and I will say this, and I'm not a particular like MAGA, MAGA, MAGA guy,
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  right?
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  You know me.
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  I'm conservative, but I don't need to be associated with some like, you know, team MAGA, whatever.
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  But I will say this, that's what really I think we meant, or at least I would have meant
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  if I say make America great again.
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  It's because we've forgotten our work ethic, we've forgotten what made us who we are, we've
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  forgotten how to raise our kids, we've forgotten not all of us, but you know what I mean.
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  I just sent that clip that you keep mentioning from the debate to Russell, so we'll probably
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  be able to play that in a little bit.
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  I sent it to you as an X clip Russell if you want to grab that at some point but I will
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  also say this to go back to Talrico and missing for 13 days.
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  His campaign has claimed that he's dealing with the flu and that it's been a two week
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  long like just really ridiculous flu that's causing a lot of problems for him and because
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  of that he can't be on the campaign trail as much as he wants to be.
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  It's weird Craig because I'm surprised they haven't done a proof of life thing where where
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  Talarico's in bed sniffling, right? I
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  Really? I really wish I could be out there. Yeah with the 12 genders
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  I all my genders are in bed with me. We've got
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  I just don't know why they're not doing that.
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  the rumors I haven't seen anything like that although it makes sense that you
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  just pulled out of your but no like the timeline of it made like October
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  surprise is a phrase in politics for a reason and it happens to be October and
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  we're getting closer to the election and then all of a sudden all of a sudden one
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  of the two politicians disappeared look you're the match I am I'm a crazy good
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  detective you should hire me for the investigate October 9th I know look at
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  that so I just I just speculated that that was it and I literally introduced
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  it as a thought I was having but I can't see anybody out there I hope
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  there's something that we don't know about that's gonna come out because I
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  Talarico is the kind of guy that would have something even crazier in his you
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  know closet that we don't know about he is the exact type of candidate okay cool
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  how much more crazy are we gonna get I think it could get crazier man maybe
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  maybe he dated a transgender model or he's like who knows what it could be
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  that might make people.
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  So I was thinking about blowing up a doll
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  and then doing a commercial.
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  I think we should do a blow up doll commercial.
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  Talarico.
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  Talarico.
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  All right.
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  Hi, my name is Susie.
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  I am James Talifrico's blow up doll.
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  I think we're ready to play the clip that Wayne has also been referencing from the Michigan
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  debate.
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  This is the moment where Abdul Al-Sayed, the crazy far left guy who's also running for
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  office there could not say that Iran is more dangerous than Israel which is to
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  both Wayne and I ridiculous go ahead. I'm gonna ask you again tonight who do you
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  think is a bigger threat to the United States? Israel or Iran? You have 60 seconds.
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  And again Rick I'm just gonna say that that's a ridiculous hypothetical because
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  here's what's happening right now our ostensible ally in Israel has lobbied us
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  to go to war with Iran we have watched as Iran has responded by bombing all
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  kinds of countries in the Middle East and then choking off the world's energy supply.
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  So this is a situation in which I don't think we should be apart.
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  I don't want to be pushed into war by Israel and I...
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  No, it is fine.
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  That's why we can skip it from there.
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  It's ridiculous.
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  You objected to the word, abstensible, because he is essentially trying to say that he thinks
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  that Israel is not our ally, which is ridiculous.
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  But also the idea that...
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  Look, I'll go back to this.
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  I don't know if we should even do the topic this way, Wayne.
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  Oh, we're going to take a break.
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  So never mind.
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  We'll get to that in a bit.
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  But the IAEA was warning that Iran was disregarding a lot
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  of their inspections.
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  And the IAEA said that they didn't know if Iran was getting
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  closer to nuclear weapon before Israel or the US attacked them
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  in 2025.
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  So people always forget that when they pretend Israel just
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  invented this conflict out of nowhere
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  and shoved the United States into it.
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  That's not the timeline.
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  All right, we'll take a break.
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  More in a bit.
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  Wayne Dolcefino now has his cold iced coffee,
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  so he's ready to go on the Voice of Texas KSEV radio.
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  I'm Craig Coglianese.
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  We'll be back.
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  KSEV radio, the voice of Texas, I am Craig Coglianese, he is Wayne Dolcefino.
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  We are working out this whole system of how to do certain stuff and I'm actually really
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  enjoying this so we're going to send a bunch more clips to Russell.
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  We're going to send something from Mamdani last night and then also Markwayne Mullin
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  who is speaking today and we'll try to compare those things.
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  But Wayne, what did you want to say about Mamdani and how quickly he came out in just
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  an insane way to go after President Trump after something that happened in New York
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  and ICE involved shooting?
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  I don't think we even killed a guy.
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  We shot a guy.
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  He did not die.
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  I mean, I consider myself an ICE agent.
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  Fine.
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  We shot a guy in New York.
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  A guy with a criminal record, whatever.
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  And within like a few hours, right, the very people that said, oh, you guys came out and
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  claimed something that wasn't true and you got to wait to investigate.
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  When Dummy was like ready within like five minutes to come out and say, this is an outrage.
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  Yeah, it's crazy.
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  It's only an outrage because you left wing freak shows up in New York will not enforce
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  the damn law. Yes. I'm not for raiding Walmarts and getting rid of grandmas, but we've got
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  to push back against this and we're not. We finally are this morning. I see Mullen in
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  a press conference right now on Fox. I'm watching Fox in my own channel.
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  We can play a clip from that too. I just sent them to Russell. Russell will get them in
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  second and then we can play Mamdami first, which is last night the, you know, attacks
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  at Trump and all that stuff.
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  And then we'll play a little bit of Markwayne Mullin who was asked about New York City police
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  officers and he praised them.
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  He said that they're great.
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  And then he criticized Mamdami's lack of even attempting to communicate with Mark Wayne
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  Mullen or the federal government involving this story.
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  Go ahead.
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  You know, my relative is obviously mostly Italian, but we also had some Irish cops,
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  right?
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  my cousin Phil was a sergeant in the Bronx.
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  And my cousin Anthony was a big architect in New York,
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  retired but still living up there.
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  I will tell you something,
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  I can't even imagine how apoplectic they are
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  listening to a guy who has the idea that he is the mayor
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  of the largest city in this country
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  is so embarrassing.
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  Yeah, it's embarrassing to me too.
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  It's sad actually.
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  All right, we got him.
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  So we'll do the Zoran Mamdami clip first
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  where he was speaking last night
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  after the story first broke.
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  And again, just to reiterate,
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  it is an ICE involved shooting.
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  No one's died.
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  No one was killed,
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  but a gun was used by an ICE agent
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  on someone that they were trying to arrest.
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  Let's hear Mamdami.
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  ICE agents surrounded the man's vehicle
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  before opening fire. They wore construction vests and masks that
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  concealed their faces. There was no reasonable way to identify them as ICE
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  agents. School had just gotten out. The street was crowded with families and
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  children. When ICE agents opened fire, a five-year-old child, a five-year-old
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  child, was in the backseat of the car. Thank God that child is physically
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  unharmed. For the past two hours, I have been on the phone with President Trump and Secretary
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  Mullen negotiating the release of the man ICE agents shot. Those negotiations were unsuccessful.
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  Just moments ago, ICE put the man in unmarked vehicle and whisked him away.
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  All right, we're fine. We're fine. We get the gist. And here's why I wanted to play it the
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  way that we played it with the emotional call to convince people that something horrible happened.
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  First, I think that at other times, cops, not just ice agents, might have to fire a
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  weapon in a situation where it's deemed necessary, where innocent people are around.
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  And there might even be a kid somewhere in the proximity of where that happens.
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  That doesn't mean they're in danger.
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  If the cop is doing what he's trained to do, he's not wildly firing into the air and maybe
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  hitting people.
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  And that's the way they want you to view it or envision it so they make it sound even
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  worse than it was and completely fail to explain why it could have happened.
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  What else Wayne? I just want to say when I was a young reporter, I went to the shoot no shoot course
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  My law enforcement friends will appreciate this and you know, you're supposed to like, you know shoot the bad guys
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  I shot everybody because I said if you shoot everybody you guarantee
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  They don't kill you right? So I was shooting the suspects. I was shooting the victims
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  I was shooting fellow cops. Yeah, so don't do as Wayne does here
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  No, but this is very, very difficult work, man.
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  It is.
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  You know, people who aren't law enforcement, and I'm not, I mean, I can't even imagine
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  the split second-
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  Decision making.
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  Really?
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  Yeah.
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  That's why, look, I didn't think those shootings in Minneapolis were good shootings, but I
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  I also believe that they wouldn't have happened if those idiots, and I called them idiots because
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  when you go and get in the middle of a law enforcement operation, you're an idiot.
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  Yeah.
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  100%.
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  Well, and the shootings can also be justified if you drive a car at somebody and you might
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  kill them.
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  I actually was a fake active shooter in a police drill with a group of police where
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  they gave me a paintball gun and I had to be in a school.
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  Well, they put me in a real school, by the way, and then they'd come in and there were
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  no kids, of course, there.
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  It was on a Saturday and I dealt with the thing where they choose when to fire at me
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  and stuff.
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  The amount of rules they have to follow too.
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  This is in Illinois, maybe it's different in Texas.
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  I would have shot you first.
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  It is different.
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  I would have gunned you down.
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  But they actually, I could be shooting my weapon and identified as the bad guy and if
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  they were around the corner for me, they had to keep their gun down until they turned to
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  corner to see me because they're not legally allowed in Illinois to point their gun at
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  someone who'd be an innocent bystander, meaning if someone's running away from me, they'd
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  have to keep their gun to the side.
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  I think no one would like that. I don't think that's a thing. Maybe some law enforcement officer can call in, but I don't think...
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  Right.
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  Well, and protecting people is usually more important sometimes than mitigating every
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  single potential mistake you want to.
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  But if you have to choose one or the other, maybe protecting people, more people is,
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  I don't know.
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  But nonetheless, I can't imagine that a New York City cop even had a remote chance of
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  harming a kid.
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  You know, like, and that's what they want you to believe, that the way the gun was used,
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  it could have just easily shot the kid instead, and that makes no sense to me.
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  But it could have.
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  I don't know that it could have.
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  I don't know in this situation.
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  I think you need specifics to know for sure that what you're saying could be true.
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  Breaking news.
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  Yes, sir.
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  Criminals have sex with women too.
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  And they have babies.
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  They do.
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  And they have children.
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  That's true.
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  They do.
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  Remember the guy in New York, the mass killer guy?
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  Yeah.
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  He must kill all the women or something up there.
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  He's married, got kids.
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  I mean, look, criminals have kids.
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  Is that my fault? Am I supposed to not shoot back at him or I don't know whether you had
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  a gun or not, but am I supposed to not engage him just because he has a kid? Otherwise,
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  everybody who's a murderer will drive around with fake babies in the vaccine.
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  Come on, man.
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  Well, I do want to play the Markwayne Mullin clip, but I'm tempted to tell you one more
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  story from that experience. I'll do it really, really quick, I promise. There was a police
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  officer that came up after the training and asked the training officers, and I just happened
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  to be standing there, about an instance he was actually involved in.
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  He goes, I want your opinion of this thing that happened.
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  There were no children, there were no innocent people.
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  It was bad guys and good guys.
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  It was criminals and cops.
• 22:14
  This police officer was at the front of a door they were trying to break down.
• 22:18
  The bad guy on the other side was destroying the door with a machete.
• 22:21
  The machete was getting closer and closer to the face of the cop at the front of the
• 22:25
  the whatever you call that, the thing.
• 22:29
  He was upset that he shot and killed the guy.
• 22:32
  He was talking to the training officers.
• 22:33
  He's like, eventually I shot and killed him
• 22:34
  because it was a couple more swings
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  and the machete would have gone into my head.
• 22:38
  That's the type of person that typically is a police officer.
• 22:41
  They're not running around wanting to shoot people.
• 22:44
  They choose this in a moment of,
• 22:46
  I have to make this decision now.
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  And as Wayne is saying, in those moments
• 22:50
  where you make the decision,
• 22:51
  if something horrible you don't intend to have happen
• 22:53
  happens, it is a byproduct of choosing to take the risk.
• 22:58
  It just is.
• 22:58
  But I remember how the guy was even tearing up a pretty tough police guy that's like,
• 23:04
  yeah, I had to shoot this guy at point blank range because he was about to kill me and
• 23:07
  my team.
• 23:08
  But I'd be like, go around as a [unclear] guy.
• 23:12
  But the reality is having to kill someone is a horrible thing.
• 23:18
  Right.
• 23:18
  have to do it. Especially in this media day and age, in this climate, you're going to
• 23:25
  be in litigation for the next five years. You're going to have everybody, and God forbid,
• 23:31
  it's a black kid or a transgender kid or whatever kid.
• 23:38
  Yeah, then the details won't matter. Then all that will matter is that. It won't matter
• 23:42
  if the person was doing something wrong. Here, let's play a little bit of Markwayne Mullin.
• 23:45
  He blasted Zoran Mamdami and also blasted Kathy Hochul for the things they weren't telling
• 23:51
  the federal government.
• 23:52
  You heard Mamdami say that he was in constant communication with Trump and with Mark Wayne
• 23:56
  Mullen.
• 23:57
  That does not seem to be true, according to the other side of those conversations.
• 24:01
  Here's a little bit of that.
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  NYPD officers are some of the finest officers we have out there.
• 24:06
  just last week. One was stabbed seven times by illegals. One that we had a
• 24:16
  detainer on that New York released. Both had extensive criminal backgrounds. Did
• 24:24
  the mayor of New York say anything about that? Did the individuals that's in the
• 24:31
  streets demanding justice for this criminal that we picked up yesterday.
• 24:38
  Did anybody come out for the officer that was stabbed seven times by these criminals?
• 24:43
  Not a word was said.
• 24:45
  Not a word was said by the mayor.
• 24:46
  Not a word was said by the governor.
• 24:48
  That's good.
• 24:48
  That's good right there.
• 24:49
  So yeah, even in the situations where cops are being killed or harmed by people that
• 24:53
  are here illegally, no coverage at all in the news.
• 24:57
  Obviously Wayne.
• 24:58
  So, again, it looks New York City, man, either on a boss rally where there's a bunch of people
• 25:04
  on October 7th, chanting from the river to the sea.
• 25:07
  That happened.
• 25:08
  Right.
• 25:08
  It did.
• 25:09
  Or we got this.
• 25:11
  I don't know, dude.
• 25:13
  All right.
• 25:13
  We got to stop.
• 25:13
  We got to stop the spread of the cancer and maybe too late, but we got to stop it.
• 25:17
  We do have to stop it.
• 25:18
  Have we caught, we call my cousin Vinny.
• 25:20
  I think my cousin Vinny can jump on the show if we didn't call him yet.
• 25:22
  We can call him and do that at the end of the show here on the Voice of Texas KSEV radio
• 25:27
  Craig and Wayne hanging out with you.
• 25:39
  KSEV radio.
• 25:41
  I gotta take this real quick.
• 25:44
  The voice of Texas, my name is Craig Coglianese.
• 25:46
  He is Wayne Dolcefino.
• 25:48
  He was just talking about Wings Over Houston, which is an event that's coming up in a few
• 25:52
  weeks.
• 25:53
  And maybe we'll try to invade it and go there.
• 25:55
  I was last year. I went for the because I'm new to Houston. So the first time I've ever been was last year, but I was never been I thought I'd like to go. It's good.
• 26:05
  People want to like put me on a plane. I'll say no, but I'll go visit.
• 26:10
  I have my cousin Vince, Vince Coglianese the nationally syndicated radio host who has a show every day from 12 to one on the phone. We call them the famous Vince Coglianese.
• 26:21
  Yes.
• 26:22
  Who has a, I believe, Wayne, I'm not trying to start a fight, his Twitter feed, his Twitter
• 26:27
  followers is bigger than your Facebook followers.
• 26:30
  So he's the famous Vince, oh it's true, the famous Vince Coglianese.
• 26:34
  Welcome to the show buddy, how you doing?
• 26:36
  Thank you, that is the measure of a man.
• 26:38
  How many followers do you have on social media?
• 26:40
  Thank you.
• 26:40
  Well if you could help me Vince a little bit, because my followers are sad, especially on
• 26:45
  X on Twitter.
• 26:46
  We wanted to ask you, we were just talking about it, Markwayne Mullin's press conference
• 26:49
  today. It just happened after Mamdani yesterday came out kind of crazy saying some things about
• 26:55
  an ice shooting and not a death. The person who got shot was not killed. But are you, is there ever
• 27:02
  a moment with this stuff, Vince, where you're like, they keep running to the same playbook.
• 27:06
  If you listen to Mamdani last night, he said insane things that seem like they might not
• 27:11
  actually be connected to what happened. But what's your reaction to all this?
• 27:14
  They always go to the same playbook. Always every time. They leap to massive conclusions. They say
• 27:18
  the good guys or the bad guys, that that's the only way to view this thing.
• 27:22
  And it's, it's, it's demented, man. It's like,
• 27:24
  it's a complete inversion of the truth. And if anything,
• 27:27
  the reality is like these ice guys and border patrol agents and you know,
• 27:32
  HSI with the department of Homeland security,
• 27:34
  all these federal law enforcement guys have some of the toughest jobs in the
• 27:37
  whole country.
• 27:38
  Because what they're trying to do right now is get about 3000 people out of the
• 27:42
  country every day who shouldn't be here to begin with.
• 27:44
  They're going after illegal aliens. And in the process, they're,
• 27:48
  They're sort of like kind of a never-ending stream of propaganda against them.
• 27:55
  Like the media and the Democrats, kind of in union, have been demonizing these guys,
• 28:01
  dehumanizing these guys to the point that the reason that you've seen them wear masks
• 28:04
  at all, they're trying to protect their identities so that their families aren't threatened and
• 28:08
  attacked.
• 28:09
  I mean, that's how serious this has become.
• 28:12
  And I'm so grateful for the guys who are going in every day and just enforcing American
• 28:18
  as immigration laws in the face of all of these headwinds that are being conjured up
• 28:23
  by some of the worst people in our country.
• 28:25
  Well, and Markwayne Mullin mentioned it.
• 28:26
  He said that a New York City officer just a couple days ago was stabbed seven times
• 28:31
  by an illegal alien that they were trying to arrest for something, and New York continues
• 28:36
  to let these people walk shortly after they arrest them, and there's no news coverage
• 28:41
  of a NYPD officer getting stabbed seven times by someone who shouldn't be in the country.
• 28:46
  Surprise, surprise.
• 28:47
  No, and then disorders incentivize.
• 28:51
  The media is all in on how could you make your life more chaotic.
• 28:54
  It's also sick.
• 28:55
  What do you want to say, Wayne?
• 28:56
  Yeah, I was going to say, the media has become just a dishonest actor.
• 29:02
  It's one thing in the old days when the media has sort of leaned liberal because of compassion
• 29:09
  and you could sort of argue that.
• 29:11
  I did a lot of those kind of stories this but now they're just they're not even a credible
• 29:19
  like in the middle
• 29:21
  Even barely on one side. They're all in
• 29:24
  On when I heard cavein collins called president trump a snowflake the other day. I said what the hell?
• 29:32
  When did this happen?
• 29:34
  That's why people they have a really good cell
• 29:37
  Yeah, no, they have a rooting interest.
• 29:39
  The whole concept is like they want Trump to lose and they will filter every single
• 29:44
  piece of information through that web.
• 29:46
  I mean, the most obvious example I think in the last week is
• 29:49
  When the media invented a claim that President Trump would be comfortable with Iran, New
• 29:54
  King, Los Angeles, San Diego.
• 29:56
  Yeah.
• 29:57
  They just started running around.
• 29:58
  He said that he'd be totally fine with it.
• 30:00
  He never said that.
• 30:01
  He said that the spike in energy prices is a small price to pay to avoid that outcome.
• 30:08
  So they take that claim, they turn it directly on its head, and then they attack the thing
• 30:12
  that they made up.
• 30:14
  And we've seen this playbook.
• 30:15
  This is why, Craig, when you ask, like, is this the same playbook?
• 30:17
  Yeah, every time all you have to do is change the proper nouns, but they always tap into
• 30:21
  this playbook of conjure up a hoax, attack, attack the hoaxes as if it's reality, and
• 30:28
  then use it as a way to try and get Trump out of office or arrest his progress, which
• 30:33
  is why when the president's like throwing these guys out of the White House or calling
• 30:37
  them fake news, the reality is he's right about this.
• 30:41
  They're not even using the First Amendment the way the founders intended, which is how
• 30:45
  you the truth.
• 30:46
  I do want to ask you something else that you put up on social media that I thought was pretty funny. Jamie Raskin was on
• 30:52
  CNN I think in talking about his bill that he introduced about the Trump propaganda museum and how hilarious it would be
• 30:59
  To actually build a museum that's all about President Trump that the president himself would love even if they called it propaganda
• 31:06
  And put a bunch of things in there that inevitably we find out a lot of it winds up being true
• 31:10
  What was your reaction? I know you shared it on on your x-page
• 31:13
  Yeah, but the idea of this and how maybe they should do it.
• 31:17
  I just think it's hilarious because I mean, Jamie Raskin is one of the single
• 31:20
  worst faced at worst faith actors in all of Washington.
• 31:24
  I call him Cosmo Kramer because he does look like Kramer from Sondsel.
• 31:27
  He does. He's he's ridiculous.
• 31:29
  But he he put this legislation forward.
• 31:31
  He's like, we need it. We need an entire exhibit in the Smithsonian dedicated to
• 31:36
  the MAGA era. And his concept is like that we need to equate over half the
• 31:41
  country with Nazis. That's his view.
• 31:43
  we need to demonize our fellow american and we should create an exhibit to do it
• 31:47
  i think that the president has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever
• 31:51
  he should say that he's repeat that he wants to go all in on this legislation
• 31:55
  joined hands with jimmy raskin and build a magga exhibit at the smithsonian
• 32:00
  and just going to have a moment but put up
• 32:02
  because it is kind of i can't believe it is american history to make america
• 32:06
  great again movement everything from the red hat to the epic rallies
• 32:10
  It all is a part of the restoration of the country. I think that history should be told it'd be
• 32:15
  Hilarious if we could use Jamie Raskett the teller. Yeah, and honestly the fight fight fight to be on when I think of historical
• 32:20
  Moments that involve President Trump
• 32:22
  I think I'll forever think of the attempted assassination and standing up it like that's what you want a
• 32:27
  President this country to do in that moment that deserves historical, you know some kind of significance away
• 32:33
  And what else you want to say? No, I was just dad. I prefer to have a president who crawls
• 32:38
  like a lizard.
• 32:40
  I prefer to have a president that knows how to get off a stage.
• 32:43
  That was one of the worst things with Biden.
• 32:45
  I want to ask you about something Texas, Vince.
• 32:48
  James Taloreco has gone missing for 13 days now.
• 32:52
  His campaign is claiming that he's got the flu.
• 32:55
  It must be a really bad version of it.
• 32:57
  I was talking to Wayne and I think Wayne, you accused me of inventing a story.
• 33:01
  I'm hoping there's like an October surprise in all this.
• 33:04
  Like someone's leveraging something and Tallifrico's afraid and going away.
• 33:09
  I know it's not at all confirmed.
• 33:10
  I know no one's saying this.
• 33:11
  It's just the timing fits.
• 33:13
  So I thought maybe that could be it.
• 33:15
  What's your take on what the hell happened to James Tallifrico?
• 33:19
  Well, you know, I'm not a doctor or anything, but I was looking up the data on this and
• 33:22
  they say that a guy who's his age, what did he say, he's 37 years old, the average 37
• 33:26
  year old man who's in terms of flu, you resolve the major symptoms in less than a week.
• 33:33
  So whatever this is, it's not the truth.
• 33:36
  Whatever this is, it's not the truth.
• 33:37
  There's something really weird going on.
• 33:40
  You would think, Ken Paxton's campaign has asked for a proof of life video.
• 33:44
  Just like, hey, just record a selfie video and let everybody know what's going on.
• 33:47
  He hasn't even done that. He's just been AWOL, which is crazy because this is the closing days of the campaign.
• 33:55
  Clearly you need to be on the campaign trail if you're a major political candidate.
• 33:59
  Now that said, I'm perfectly happy with him being off the campaign trail.
• 34:03
  I'd rather can tax than have the microphone himself and get all the votes he needs in
• 34:07
  Texas and we keep this guy away from the Senate.
• 34:13
  But I'll tell you, I don't know if you're hearing this in Texas, the rumor mill is off
• 34:17
  the charts right now about this guy.
• 34:20
  Like, like,
• 34:22
  Vinny, I asked your, I asked your, uh, your cousin,
• 34:25
  the lesser cousin, you can just call me the lesser cousin, the loser.
• 34:28
  or there's no rumors.
• 34:30
  What's the good rumors of North?
• 34:34
  Okay, this is so irresponsible, but here's the rumor.
• 34:37
  Yeah, see, this is why we don't do it.
• 34:39
  All right, go ahead.
• 34:40
  The rumor is that he had a mental break.
• 34:42
  Yeah, I saw that.
• 34:45
  The rumor is that this is too much for him.
• 34:49
  It was too much to bear.
• 34:50
  No, I don't know.
• 34:52
  Again, that's a rumor.
• 34:53
  So again, that's entirely irresponsible.
• 34:54
  That's by the way the nicest rumor,
• 34:56
  because I do think there are other rumors, but again, to be a good journalist, you don't
• 35:01
  want to say them.
• 35:02
  Sure you do.
• 35:03
  Who cares?
• 35:05
  Have a little fun.
• 35:06
  Good morning.
• 35:08
  I'll say this by the way.
• 35:09
  The story of him is he's off the ground.
• 35:10
  Whatever this is, and I don't believe the official story.
• 35:14
  Me neither.
• 35:14
  Me neither.
• 35:15
  Well, and this is the thing I will say.
• 35:16
  We definitely do not have as many Emmys as Wayne Dolcefino.
• 35:19
  He's got a lot of Emmys that we do not have.
• 35:21
  Yeah, between the two Coglianeses.
• 35:23
  No Emmys.
• 35:24
  Do you have any Emmys?
• 35:25
  You don't have any Emmys Vince do you?
• 35:28
  I have no Emmys, okay, but but I've never tried to instigate rumor-mongering out of my guess on the air
• 35:36
  Wayne what do you got? I know we got to let Vinny go because he's got another national show to do. I just want to say
• 35:40
  He's my favorite
• 35:42
  Conan. I know he's everybody's favorite. Everybody's favorite. I get it. It's fun. I open the door to this by asking him to be on the show
• 35:49
  I think it was always Vince the show
• 35:51
  I'm not enjoying this.
• 35:52
  I'm not enjoying this because it always ends up with Craig and some sort of self-lagulating
• 35:56
  humiliation ritual.
• 35:58
  And I'm like, I don't like that.
• 36:00
  But you do like that I now use the last name, the real last name, so that part's fine.
• 36:04
  I do love that.
• 36:04
  The big show is coming up at 11 o'clock.
• 36:07
  We are the 12 o'clock, the second hour here.
• 36:09
  Anything you want to tell us that's coming up today?
• 36:12
  We've got the great Senator Mike Lee on the program today.
• 36:14
  I asked him about the Safe America Act.
• 36:16
  I asked him about the Blue Slip process.
• 36:18
  I want to know all about this and what we can do to fix America's justice system and save America's elections
• 36:24
  Amazing. Thanks so much buddy. As always that is Vince Kalanay's of the Vince show. I
• 36:29
  Like him. I know I know he's very likable. That's one of the reasons he's so successful and he's very smart
• 36:35
  He seems to know everything about everything
• 36:37
  Yeah, no, I he's a he's a sharp guy and I'm glad I heard the rumor cuz I swear I
• 36:42
  I have not heard.
• 36:46
  I thought you had heard.
• 36:48
  No.
• 36:48
  And I think if we're going to talk rumors, as long as you journalists say the rumor is,
• 36:55
  I think you are not veering too far down the road.
• 37:00
  The nicest rumor, because there's other illness rumors about him that are connected to some
• 37:05
  of the things that he's...
• 37:07
  Right.
• 37:07
  So those are probably too salacious and irresponsible to talk about.
• 37:10
  But the the the tamest rumor is that he has a mental health problem. He's broken down mentally and
• 37:17
  Well, but we knew that in August
• 37:19
  Is that breaking news?
• 37:23
  I actually struggle to believe that that's true to be honest because
• 37:26
  Talarico has seemed to be someone who's very happy with the way that he's been covered by media and the way that like
• 37:34
  Certainly the right has talked about him and how he refutes it
• 37:37
  I don't I didn't see him as someone who is mentally struggling in his Kimmel interview, for example, or is you know, Colbert interview
• 37:45
  So I just I don't I don't believe it. I think it's got to be something else, but I agree with my cousin
• 37:49
  I think there's a reason he's gone away and it's not the flu. So we'll see
• 37:53
  Yeah, I sort of don't really buy the flu thing either because even if you had the flu
• 37:59
  What a great sympathetic at you know, when you're in bed with like with Kleenex next to you
• 38:06
  Yeah, well, actually, you're right.
• 38:08
  Even to be on the trail somewhere and give enough space so you're not getting anybody
• 38:11
  else sick to be like, I care about America so much.
• 38:14
  I got out to do this thing today.
• 38:16
  You don't have to even do it publicly.
• 38:18
  Bring your crew into your room.
• 38:20
  That's true.
• 38:21
  With the tissues all over the bed and say, I'm going to have to go back as soon as I
• 38:26
  can.
• 38:27
  That's true.
• 38:27
  I mean, is he not getting any better after two weeks?
• 38:31
  Who knows?
• 38:31
  I mean...
• 38:32
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:33
  And honestly, like Michael Jordan, part of the reason he's a legend is the flu game in the playoffs.
• 38:37
  One of many reasons he's a legend.
• 38:38
  Let's get a flu game from Talarico if he's really the sick.
• 38:41
  I want to take a call. We got a call on the line.
• 38:43
  Joe is hanging on there. Want to say something about Talarico.
• 38:46
  Joe, what do you want to say?
• 38:49
  Yes, sir. There's a 0% chance that if he did have the flu,
• 38:52
  that he could possibly still have the flu 13 days later.
• 38:54
  So there's no chance for the flu game.
• 38:56
  True.
• 38:56
  Sorry about that.
• 38:57
  That's fine.
• 38:58
  But, you know, I want to say real fast that I want to tell you what I think
• 39:02
  Cala, Telerico has, uh, Telerico, not Telerico, but, um, real fast.
• 39:08
  Vince is awesome.
• 39:09
  I was trying to hate on you for not letting me talk more about Israel,
• 39:12
  but I, and I was thinking, Oh, maybe this guy's actually a secret
• 39:15
  leftist like Megan Kelly.
• 39:17
  But then I listened to you talk more and I see why people like you.
• 39:20
  I had a little bit of a, I had a little bit of the leftover like resentment
• 39:23
  for Chris, uh, I'll say no leaving.
• 39:26
  Can we just get over, can we just pass the, what else do you want to say,
• 39:27
  man, about other stuff?
• 39:28
  I appreciate this, but what else?
• 39:32
  Um, Salarico actually may have the Ellen DeGeneres disease, or maybe the Joey MacIntyre disease
• 39:39
  from back in the day.
• 40:05
  I think that that's true. I think it's very true.
• 40:10
  If you look up the rumors about Joey McIntyre, it could be that one.
• 40:11
  We're two weeks out now and no one was listening two weeks ago to that that might be listening right now
• 40:16
  It just makes no sense to talk about it. Anyway
• 40:19
  What would you say? I said, I love you. Thank you, buddy
• 40:22
  Oh, you know what? I'll talk about this in the macro not the specific level
• 40:26
  I I never care about stuff when I walk out of a room
• 40:30
  I don't know if you're like that like you can get in a fight with somebody in a room
• 40:33
  Especially professionally and then you walk out of the room and it's over to me like it's we're done now
• 40:38
  And then the next day you come back, you're like,
• 40:40
  great, hey buddy, how you doing?
• 40:42
  Let's get together with, like Joe can call it
• 40:44
  anytime he wants, I don't care about any past interaction.
• 40:48
  It doesn't matter.
• 40:49
  I'm like that when I do a confrontation with someone
• 40:52
  and then I walk out of the room
• 40:53
  and I see some beautiful woman, I go, hey baby,
• 40:55
  how you doing?
• 40:56
  I'm fine, I get over it.
• 40:58
  Yeah, you got it, it's how you live.
• 41:00
  You gotta live.
• 41:02
  Which is, all right.
• 41:03
  I think we're actually commercial free
• 41:05
  for the end of the show.
• 41:06
  We don't have to take another break.
• 41:07
  So we can keep going. Yep. I just got the thumbs up from Russell on that. I did want to say one thing about baseball
• 41:14
  I know it's not a sports show, but thank you. Got oh and now Russell's
• 41:18
  You actually predicted that it would be in game three and that then that happened in game three
• 41:27
  I am very depressed about my New York Yankees and their inability to win stuff and with the lockout now coming
• 41:32
  Which I think is gonna be a bigger deal than people think I don't know
• 41:36
  I don't know what's gonna happen with baseball like I'm worried
• 41:39
  They're not gonna play a whole season next year to be they may not right yeah
• 41:42
  I don't know Wayne if you've been paying attention to that
• 41:44
  But there's definitely gonna be a lockout and it might be a lockout that goes a while. Yeah first of all I'm the Yankees
• 41:51
  If the Astros could have won a series then the Yankees would have been out anyway
• 41:56
  I know they beat the Yankees fight, you know like but getting swept is just so anyway
• 42:02
  You got a win one.
• 42:05
  For all the money the Yankees spend.
• 42:08
  I know.
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  Well, they don't actually spend as much as they used to.
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  They spend a lot.
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  They don't spend a lot.
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  They don't spend as much as the Dodgers and they could.
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  And everybody's so upset the Dodgers are another.
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  I heard a caller on a Russell show today on the press box demand to know who he thinks
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  is going to win in 2027, like next year's World Series.
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  Because not only are the Dodgers the favorites right now, they're probably the favorites
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  next year and people say that's ruining baseball similar to what the Yankees did in the late
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  90s early 2000s.
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  Go ahead.
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  But I actually do think it's potentially they're going to have to figure out it's not really
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  fair to do that or it's not really fair to make it so just equal.
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  I just think everybody should get a pot of money.
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  You spend that pot of money.
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  I don't know if it's 100 million or 50 million.
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  Yeah, I can't get all that.
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  He also said see the reason I don't like that is why I well if I were a Dodger fan
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  I'd be so happy my team wanted to win at all costs because my team spending more money like it's so funny
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  I don't know how Russell feels about this or you feel about this Wayne
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  I I don't get the the sports fan who wants my team to be run well as a business
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  I don't care how their run is a business
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  I want to be run well as a franchise that wins things for me if they lose money
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  Which George Steinbrenner seemed willing to do at the height of of his ownership of the Yankees before he passed away
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  Who cares as long as I get another World Series like recklessly spend more
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  I've never been someone that analyzed the budget of the team to try to make sure they're spending responsibly
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  You know much suggesting that I just think that if everybody get the same amount of money
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  Then you would have to actually have skill. I'm sure that hurts
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  So the question is this, salary cap or no salary cap?
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  I say no.
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  I say I like the penalty system we currently have in place,
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  just make it worse.
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  Make it to the point where the Dodgers eventually
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  won't pay it.
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  I say yes.
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  I say yes.
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  And by the way, Yankees have the third highest payroll.
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  I know that it's third, but it's still,
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  it's almost under the penalties, right?
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  Like I think next year we might actually not even pay
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  any penalties, which is whatever.
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  I don't think that's fair to the players.
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  I think the salary caps always hurt the players
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  they can't negotiate for more money.
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  And the deferred money too that the Dodgers do, though, Connie, that's a joke.
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  It is a joke.
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  Deferred money is a joke.
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  We can get rid of that.
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  I think that's fine.
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  And that's a way to get around the penalty system that exists when you go over a certain
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  threshold.
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  When is too much too much?
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  I mean, how much does someone have to make in a year?
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  Well, wait though.
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  Like, would we accept that?
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  Well, not that KSEV is struggling to be under a salary cap.
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  They're succeeding.
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  If KSDV said, we can only pay you $100 million to put up with Craig Coglianese, I wouldn't
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  say I'm going to hold out for $110 million.
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  As long as Vince can come on the show once in a while, because you like him more.
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  Look, I'll give this $50, dude.
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  It was like $100 million.
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  Give me a million.
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  I don't even ... I would be happy with that.
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  I would be the type of athlete that would want to make as much money as humanly possible.
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  That's who I'd be, because I deserve it.
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  If I'm that good and they'll pay me, I deserve it. It doesn't matter if I'm already a millionaire.
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  I don't care. And I think all the athletes should have a chance to make as much as possible.
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  I think that's fine. It's the teams that decide to sign them. If a guy wants a billion dollars
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  and no one will pay him, he doesn't get a billion dollars. That's how you fix the system. You don't
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  you don't force a salary cap into it because the teams on the bottom end of those things,
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  the thing that ruined sports to me, I'm ranting about this now. I apologize.
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  I'm a sports socialist.
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  All right, that's fine.
• 45:46
  Yeah, you are.
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  The thing that ruins sports to me
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  is the teams at the bottom of those caps who just do not try,
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  who get the free money from the other teams.
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  These are the welfare teams that I
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  don't like because we don't like the other systems like this
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  that really are a joke most years.
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  And then they get the top draft picks six years in a row.
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  And maybe they put a good team together for a year or two.
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  It's the old Florida Marlins playbook.
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  And then you fire sail everybody because you can't afford them.
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  That ruins baseball to me more than a team at the top who's
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  actually paying a bunch of guys a bunch of money.
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  All right, whatever.
• 46:19
  He didn't argue.
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  What, Russell, you got something for that or no?
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  No, but Tampa Bay Rays have the third lowest payroll.
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  Oh my God.
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  I understand.
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  Third lowest payroll.
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  Yeah, and their farm system's incredible because they're trash a whole lot of the time.
• 46:30
  That's right.
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  And then they bring all their players up.
• 46:32
  And then when these players do come up again, like Rastas said, they'll be gone.
• 46:35
  Right.
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  They will be gone, probably.
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  Although they do have a new ownership group that I think might be willing to pay them
• 46:40
  a little more.
• 46:41
  You never know.
• 46:42
  I don't know.
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  Like a full salary cap is just silly to me.
• 46:45
  Because like, and I'm not a fan of him,
• 46:48
  but LeBron James at his height deserved more money
• 46:50
  than he was getting paid in his salary.
• 46:52
  And he had to make that money in outside endorsements.
• 46:55
  He was the best player in the NBA.
• 46:56
  He's not the best player of all time.
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  And he had a capped amount of money he was making.
• 47:01
  Whereas the Alex Rodriguez's of the world,
• 47:03
  steroids, what it is, made $250 million
• 47:07
  on a 10-year contract.
• 47:08
  Juan Soto, as much as I hate it,
• 47:10
  Deserved the amount of money he got from the Mets because he's a generational talent 61 million a year a year
• 47:16
  I know it's insane the deferred money is a joke. They do have to get rid of it
• 47:19
  The fact that yeah, if they if that wasn't there the fact that Shohei Ohtani is making two million dollars from the dollar
• 47:25
  That's a joke. Yes, that's ridiculous. That's
• 47:28
  He would be above no doubt above
• 47:30
  I love the same and I'm telling you that would weaken that team because I wouldn't be able to afford other players
• 47:36
  This is where you see guys like Jalen Brunson on the New York Knicks take a salary cut to make his team
• 47:40
  more competitive and they applaud him, but he's making half the money with Meg.
• 47:44
  What do you want to say, Wayne, to end the show?
• 47:45
  I don't want to get in the middle of YouTube, kids.
• 47:47
  But I mean, but, you know, tell Russell he has his own show.
• 47:52
  He does for now.
• 47:53
  Tell me to get back in the booth.
• 47:55
  No, I like it.
• 47:56
  I like talking to the producer.
• 47:57
  No, I do.
• 47:58
  I'm just, I'm totally kidding.
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  I actually, I like Russell Wayne.
• 48:02
  I've known Russell a very long time.
• 48:04
  Yeah.
• 48:05
  Because I've been filling in when people go on vacation
• 48:11
  since 1953.
• 48:12
  That's amazing.
• 48:13
  Yeah, I see.
• 48:14
  Yeah.
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  I go way back.
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  That's incredible.
• 48:16
  Is this it?
• 48:17
  Yeah, that's it.
• 48:18
  He's playing us off.
• 48:19
  The music's playing us off.
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  Hey, listen, Craig.
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  Yes.
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  Have a great weekend.
• 48:23
  Thank you.
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  Russell, you too.
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  All our listeners, viewers, followers.
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  Everybody.
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  Mutants.
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  Have a great weekend.
• 48:30
  Have a great weekend, everybody.
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  Talk to you on Monday.
• 48:32
  Right?
• 48:32
  Let's count in the middle of a railroad track.