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Evolution of suffrage after the US revolution | HBR Talk 310 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to Yep, we are back. Welcome to the h
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  HBr Talk three ten episode Evolution of Suffrage after the US Revolution. I was
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  trying to tell everybody right before the I discovered that there was no sound that
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  in the dropdown menu at the top of the page. So last week we
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  went through the American Revolution, we went through some of the aspects of the
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  American Revolution and kind of explain why I say, this country was kind of
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  founded on conscription. And while conscription had some things about it that were different
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  then say what it's like today, it still was. It affected every grown
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  man, and it affected boys. And we talked about the fact that the
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  Revolutionary army, although it was mostly comprised of grown men, included many boys
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  and important capacities that made them targets of the British military. And some of
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  them were as young as seven, like young as a first grader doing a
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  job in a war zone that could make you a target for the enemy to
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  take out because of how important what you are doing was to the military that
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  you were serving. And women acted mostly in support capacities, but they were
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  much more active in support of that war effort than many women are today.
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  And what we learned last week pretty much proved that the there is no excuse
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  for excluding women, for exempting women from conscription. Women can serve, and
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  women have roles that we can fill and we should There's no excuse for us
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  not to. Even if you don't think that women should be involved directly in
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  the fighting, there are things that could be done by women that maybe aren't
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  getting done as much as they should be because you're limited to half the population
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  to choose from, and then only those that are eligible physically and mentally for
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  the draft and who aren't exempt for various reasons. So yeah, and then
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  I think, like, you know, pregnancy comes into play too, because
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  should that happen while you're in the middle of the war, it's not very
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  convenient. Yeah, I know. But and then of course there's all so
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  the aspect of women when they get activated, becoming pregnant as a as a
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  reason to not be sent in, you know, So like that, I
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  think I think that should be something that gets investigated every time. And if
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  it's if it's proved that uh, you know, it happened after after marching
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  orders came through or something and was it was avoidable, that that deserves penalties.
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  That's you know, even if they even if they don't make the woman
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  aboard, that still deserves penalties. It's that would be similar to uh,
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  dodging the draft for guys. You know, absolutely I agree with that.
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  Yeah, I mean, if you if if you go into the military.
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  I had a classmate actually or a schoolmate rather rather he was my classmate's younger
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  brother who joined I I want to say he went into the Navy or the
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  Air Force, but he was in a military he was he was in high
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  school. He was signed up to start boot camp after he graduated. So
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  in the fall of his senior year, he played football, so months and
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  months before he was going to actually go into boot camp, right, but
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  he got his leg broken during a game and his his recruiter basically told him,
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  you get injured like that again, you'll be court martialed. Wow.
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  Yeah, your military property. Once you enlist, you don't get to become
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  inoperable, like not, not not due to something that you chose to do
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  on the side, not to a risk that you took, or you know,
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  not for a risk that you took that you didn't have to take,
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  you know, a risk that you took for fun. So yeah, that's
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  how they treat men. So I don't any problem with treating women the same
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  way, especially given how much control we have available to us over our reproductive
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  functions. Just saying ooh, so let's get into this timeline. I've got
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  that up and running, and I think, yeah, I still got the
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  American Revolution in the middle of the screen. As you can see, it
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  wasn't It was not super long. But the fighting one of the things that
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  the text I have on this points out somewhere in here, the fighting didn't
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  end at the end of the war. It ended somewhat later. They surrendered.
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  The British surrendered at Yorktown, Virginia in seventeen eighty one, so Americans
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  had won their independence at that point. I have a typo in there.
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  Oh no, I don't. But fighting didn't didn't formally end until seventeen eighty
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  three. So the reason for something like that is all right, we talked
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  about before how hard it is to get information back and forth in an environment
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  like the time of the revolution. You didn't have cars and trucks and vans
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  and airplanes. You didn't have you know, the kind of ships that we
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  have today. You didn't have electronic communications like we have today, didn't have
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  anything that could just instantly or quickly move information. It traveled on horseback,
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  yeah, you know, or in a carriage attached to a horse, or
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  on foot. So it would take that long for the last people to realize
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  and the last troops to get their their recall notifications as well. Like you
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  know, we're we're not fighting anymore. Stop fighting. Crazy to think,
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  Yeah, it's so crazy to think like, no, you're done, you
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  can stop now. You just haven't gotten the word yet. Yeah, war's
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  been over for two years, stop fighting, right, And it is funny,
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  But at the same time, when you think about it in real terms,
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  you know that's that's people were still in little skirmishes and battles and you
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  know, trying to get information so on. And yeah, Catherine Scully pointed
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  out communications was an issue all the way up to World War Two, maybe
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  even after. So I have one family member that was in communications during the
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  Vietnam War, and it was It's always been an issue because you've had with
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  military service. You're not just dealing with trying to get messages to your colleagues,
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  to your to your compatriots. You're trying to get messages to your army,
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  your fighters, your generals, your your officers, and so on without
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  telling the enemy what you're gonna do before you do it, because you don't
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  want to make your troops vulnerable. So uh, yeah, you have to
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  you have to use codes, you have to use all kinds of things.
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  And we'll talk more about that in the process of this evolution, because there's
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  something that took place in the United States that once again speaks to the importance
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  and and the vital connection I guess between conscription or military obligation and suffrage.
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  Right. So after the revolution, let's see if I can expand this a
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  little bit. It was had to restart after the there we go after the
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  updates. So during the revolution and after the Revolution, you'll notice you can
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  see the timeline here. We still have Irish Catholic disenfranchisement that we talked about
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  before, where there were actual statutes that said that if you were Catholic you
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  couldn't vote in Ireland and if you were Catholic you couldn't hold office. So
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  those continued. The rivalry between the East India companies British and Dutch continued.
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  The French East India Company continued to exist. And so you have the one
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  of the earliest things that took place, if I can get this to open,
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  there we go, was the Constitutional Convention. And the first thing you
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  can see about this is they didn't have a readily formed government for America like
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  before they went to war. This was something that happened over time slowly that
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  the colonists got madder and matter about the stuff that was being done, the
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  unfair taxation, the unfair restrictions, the monopoly that was given to the British
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  East India Tea Company on a multitude of products, and how it affected the
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  economy of the Americans. And so there was a great deal of discussion of
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  what to do about these conflicts, but not what they were going to do
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  if they won. Not so much a solid idea of what they were going
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  to do if they won. Right, They had a lot of thoughts on
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  the matter, and of course it was it was all influenced by the Enlightenment
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  that was taking place in France. So there was a great deal of discussion
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  about liberty, a great deal of discussion about individual rights and individual account of
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  build Oh and Packard excellence gives us an interesting point, he says at Badger
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  live streams. It's well known that the Battle of New Orleans took place approximately
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  twelve days after the US and Great Britain had signed a peace treaty. Yes,
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  and there were other battles as well. There were there were smaller ones,
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  but that one was that one was actually like I remember we talked about
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  that one in elementary school. We didn't get much into what happened in it,
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  just the fact that there were there were uh battles that were historically notable
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  that took place after the peace treaty had been signed. But uh yeah,
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  and and uh yes, quicksilver Ton tea was taken more seriously in the eighteenth
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  century than marijuana or even cocaine or opium, except in China where they were
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  kind of being flooded with opium by the by the British East India Tea Company.
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  So so there was that they were they were not very nice. But
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  this took four months, four months and five days to hash out, you
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  know, how are we going to set up our government? And they looked
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  at a lot of different things, and I have I have a link for
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  that here. I'm not gonna go over all of it, but they met
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  over the course of one hundred days. They formed the US government out of
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  multiple influences. And I think I talked about this maybe a couple of shows
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  ago. One of the influences on how the US government was formed was the
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  the the Government of the Six Nations, which was six tribes of Native Americans
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  that had formed a loose confederacy in in the northeast and in like what we
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  would call the New England's States in the area of Canada that's north of that.
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  And uh, they they had kind of like a congress of chiefs,
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  and it wasn't the same as what we do have, but they did have
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  a system that was somewhat parliamentary. And then of course you also had the
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  influence of the British parliamentary system. You mean you mean it wasn't It wasn't
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  like our ghetto congress insulting each other's powdered wigs. You know. They had
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  a really interesting way of doing things. They gendered voting in exactly the opposite
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  way that uh, you know, it became gendered for a while in in
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  the UK and in in the US, where they only men could be chiefs,
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  but only women could vote for them. So a man had to have
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  the approval of the women of the tribe in order to be a leader.
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  And it it if you were in an environment where you know, your your
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  whole existence revolved around man versus nature and not man versus man, that that
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  might be great. Yeah, but they they did lose, like they they
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  fought, Uh, some of them fought on the British side. They they
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  also some of them fought on the US side. But they also, like
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  I said, when the United States formed and the US government began pushing the
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  Native Americans further and further west and taking more and more land, that population,
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  that whole population was defeated. So gendering it didn't work, and insisting
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  that only only women got to decide who governed didn't work. It led to
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  it led to a situation where they just couldn't. Even when they got weapons,
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  even with guerrilla warfare that Americans didn't really know about until they were introduced
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  to it by Native Americans, they still couldn't defeat the immigrants. So let's
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  see, Oh I see Nawi or Wowie gave us a dollar and said Battle
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  of New Orleans still counts if you compensate for lag, And yeah, lag
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  would be a good way to describe it. General Jackson wasn't a bad gamery.
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  It was just the ping. Yeah, that's a good way to describe
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  it. The ping took a little bit longer back in the day. But
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  yeah. The Convention established the electoral College as a solution to like the whole
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  mob vote thing. So what we live in in the United States. Is
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  not a pure democracy. People think we are in a pure democracy, but
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  we're not pure democracy. Is you know, like like they say, five
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  wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner tonight? But an an electrical
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  or an electrical and electoral college. Sometimes we need an electrical one, especially
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  when you have politicians like we have right now. No in Mangaka, believe
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  it or not, Yes, there are people who think we live in a
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  pure democracy, and they talk about it that way. I have had conversations
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  that and I've had people double down on this too. When you go through
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  and you explain the electrical college and how it works and how it's a representative
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  republic and how you know, if it was a pure democracy, every time
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  there was a law of policy that came up that the federal government wanted to
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  pass, everybody would have to vote on it. Then yeah, they oh,
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  no, no, no, you your vote counts as a it's a
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  it's a pure that's what a pure democracy is. Don't understand anything. Yeah,
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  to understand, we're talking about the generation that eight tide pods, right,
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  Okay, So I know there's a lot of zoomers out there, going.
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  I don't read any tyde pods. But you know, our generations an
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  ex er, we didn't eat tiepods. We didn't. We jumped out of
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  trees and broke our legs, but we didn't eat tide pods. Okay.
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  Yeah, as far as generations go, they are the weakest link. Okay.
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  I don't know if that'll continue. I think there were things that baby
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  boomers said about us that were similar to that because we didn't we There were
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  things we didn't know, like how to use a slide rule, and there
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  were there were things that we were not accustomed to, like most of our
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  generation didn't get into using a stick shift right, using a manual transmission.
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  I think I talked about that on HBr News too. But and and we
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  were the generation that was you never we were never going to move out of
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  our parents' basements and blah blah blah. And yet at our age now,
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  many of us were taking care of our parents until they passed away. And
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  some still are because their parents survived the COVID crisis. So you know,
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  I have hope for gen Z that they can get up on their feet,
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  and some of them are doing really well. So there we go, It's
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  so funny because today one of my co workers, young young guy right,
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  was asked if he knew who we won our independence from? What what country?
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  He didn't know? He did not know. You know. Part of
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  that is because when when we wonder our independence, it was Britain and now
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  it's the United Kingdom, and there's confusion among people is that a country or
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  is that a confederacy, you know or some sort of And well, Britain
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  is still a country. It's a country, right and then, and it's
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  connected to other countries. But there there's that's also on our timeline. So
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  but and Martin, uh, I think that's rebaric and maybe there's an accent
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  over the sea. So I hope it's still supposed to be hard. See
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  said your generation eight tide pods. It just wasn't filmed and reported on the
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  news. So there's one problem with that. My generation didn't have tide pods.
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  They did not exist when we were kids, and when we were teenagers,
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  we didn't have smartphones. And if you wanted, like what what passed
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  for Internet at the time was you got on your your computer that had nothing
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  but text on the screen, and you dialed on your modem. It's a
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  soft che okay, so it's rubberich. I hope I've got that right,
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  or or is it like the the I had a person explained to me how
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  my name was pronounced in Arabic. Was Hannah with a hard H and I
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  don't do it very well because I have a lot of dryness. But it's
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  supposed to be You're supposed to hit the top of your soft palette with the
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  back of your tongue when you say it, and the a's are supposed to
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  be os and not as. So the wish pronunciation is technically wrong, but
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  it's what I'm used to so and yeah, and it's probably pronounced Martine says
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  quick silver tongue. Oh you know what the yeah, there's no tea.
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  It's because I'm dyslexic. I'm sorry. So it's marenbert Rebeck reberk. Anyway,
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  that's a neat name, mister three or three, says Hannah. And
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  Arabic is pronounced as hummus yes, which which can be pretty good stuff,
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  just depending on how you prepare it. But if it's not prepared well,
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  it sucks. Yeah, like there we go. But yeah, so I'm
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  sorry about your getting your name wrong. I will, I will my in
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  my defense. I live in Ohio and we have a community just north of
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  Dayton here that is pronounced Versales. Ver Sales is spelled Versailles. Just that
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  should explain everything right there. Oh my god. We have another community that
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  part of the people in the state called Cairo, and part of the people
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  in the state call it Kro, and part of the people in the state
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  call it Caro. And it's the same town and it's spelled Cairo. So
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  Caro, Where are you from? Kiro? So, yeah, that's it's
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  it's Ohio. Or if you're from farther north, it's Ohio. If you're
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  from certain areas, it's Ohio. So it would have been interesting if we
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  had a stayed Canadian, But there he goes. So that's the Constitutional Convention.
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  There was quite a bit of debate over what they were going to do
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  in terms of how the government was going to form. There was a lot
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  of debate about the electoral college in particular, and there's a lot of debate
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  about how the president would be elected. So at this point there is no
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  president. So just so you know, and they knew that we were going
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  to expand and they knew that the nation was going to be the people of
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  the nation were going to live very differently depending on what part of the country
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  lived they lived on. And simply because the topography here is quite different.
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  And we have pretty much every type of land you know in in the United
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  States, including permafrost and including volcanoes, like we have dessert, we have
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  grasslands, we have mountains, we have everything. We have sea you know,
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  seaside, we have swamps, we have drained swamps. There's one that
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  we need to drain right now. But we've all kinds of different ways of
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  living and different problems that people have had to confront in their living environments all
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  over the country. And so yeah, it's it's in order to represent everybody,
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  you have to have a different type of representation than just direct voting.
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  So there was that as this is going on. Just just a few years
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  later you have the first British penal in Australia. So the creation of this
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  first British penal colony, we're still at two hundred and thirty six years ago
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  from today. By the way, January twenty sixth, seventeen eighty eight is
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  when Captain Arthur Phillip A guided a fleet of eleven British ships carrying convicts to
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  the colony of New South Wales. This is how Australia started. New South
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  Wales was run for quite a long time as a penal colony. You couldn't
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  leave, but you could make a life there. You just had to be
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  there, you just had to stay there. So they overcame a period of
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  hardship and then began actually celebrating the universary with great enthusiasm, and it eventually
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  became commemorated as Australia Day. But again, it did start as as a
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  penal colony. So going to Australia was a punishment. And uh, one
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  day we'll have to look at what was so scary about Australia because there was
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  there, There was a lot of there's a lot of stuff in Australia that's
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  deadly and uh painful and difficult to deal with and so on. They basically
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  sent them into, you know, like a killer world. Albert Nada retro
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  gave us five dollars Canadian and said, ohio, where they put the iron
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  in their tire? Oh yes, where they put the iron in their tar?
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  Uh? So that that story I used to work at a gas station.
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  I had a guy come in and came up to speak to me and
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  asked me a question, and I couldn't understand what he said. So what
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  I heard was so wrong, your iron machine, strong, your iron machine?
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  Like what what? What's? What's? What's an iron machine? And
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  why do you want me to put a women's clothing garment on it? You
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  know? So obviously that wasn't what he was saying because it didn't make any
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  sense. So I asked him to repeat himself. It's wrong your iron machine.
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  What you know? So this continues for a little bit, and I'm
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  finally like, I'm apologizing, I'm embarrassed. I'm like, look, I'm
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  really sorry. I feel dumb asking this, but can you tell me what
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  the machine you're asking about does? And he gets really impatient with me.
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  He looks at me like I'm a moron, right, and and finally says
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  to me, you use it to put iron in your tars? Like he
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  was asking what was wrong with our air machine? And it was dumb,
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  and you know, there was a what was wrong with our air machine was
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  that when it got cold outside, it wouldn't take your credit card like it
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  just didn't work. The the reader would just stop reading for no reason.
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  And uh, they fixed that over time, but like it didn't help him
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  out in the moment, you know. So you could you could use quarters
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  in it and that would work, but you couldn't pay with a card and
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  it was at that point where people started, yeah, paying with their cards
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  and everything. So but yeah, that's Ohio for you. So we we
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  have we have more accents, I think in in just one state of the
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  Union sometimes than you find in an entire country. But as as the first
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  British penal colony in Australia is forming and the Continental uh, the Constitutional Convention
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  is taking place, we have something called federal neutral or naturalization laws that are
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  pasted. So in seventeen ninety is the first one and the second one is
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  seventeen ninety five. The Federal Nationalization Acts set limits already the first limits on
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  immigrants becoming citizens of the United States. So it limited access to US citizenship
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  to white immigrants, in effect, to people from Western Europe who had resided
• 31:26
  in the US at least two years and their children under twenty one years of
• 31:29
  age. So if your kid was over twenty one, then they would have
• 31:33
  to do the two years separately from you. Oh and yes, uh,
• 31:41
  I forgot to read the rest of Albert's He also said steel belted to a
• 31:45
  whole other level. Oh gosh, wata and your wadi eta yeah, and
• 31:56
  ketchup women most affected. But hey, I got it. I had grandpas
• 32:00
  from New York and uh my my aunts didn't drink water. They didn't drink
• 32:07
  water either. They drink water water water. Yeah, that's how I hear
• 32:16
  people in in uh up here in Connecticut say it water. It's even if
• 32:22
  it's that it's so close to New York, it's still so different, you
• 32:28
  know, I say water water. It could be worse. It could be
• 32:32
  worse. My brother lived in one of the Carolinas for a short time and
• 32:37
  they eat as cream there and sounds very appetizing. All hey man, you
• 32:44
  wants cream? No, I'm fine, thank you. I don't know somebody
• 32:49
  in this is like that. But I would like to drink of water.
• 32:55
  Oh so, but but yes, you go by to this. The first
• 33:00
  thing they did after they won independence was you have to be here. You
• 33:07
  have to have been here for two years to become a citizen. If you
• 33:08
  weren't already here, during the revolution. Gotta be careful about that. And
• 33:15
  then five years later they changed their residency requirements from two to three years and
• 33:20
  introduced the Declaration of Intention, in which the immigrant pledges under oath that they
• 33:25
  intended to renounce all allegiances to any foreign governments and become a United States citizen,
• 33:31
  a loyal United States citizen. And so that that was the first change
• 33:40
  to Obviously, if you're not a citizen, you can't vote in most locations
• 33:45
  in the country at that point in time. I think New Jersey was still
• 33:51
  letting non citizens vote, but most of the states didn't. New Jersey was
• 33:58
  always a little different. Yeah, so let's see here we expand a little
• 34:04
  more because this is too tiny for me to open. So these are parallel
• 34:12
  and I want to see. So the next thing that happened was as things
• 34:16
  went took place in the US somewhat inspired. Oh yep, nobafan twenty one
• 34:24
  gave us a dollar Instaid. Australia was the OG send to him to Detroit.
• 34:29
  Except this time it was real. Yeah, very much, so,
• 34:32
  very very real, and I can't imagine like you know it. We went
• 34:38
  to Australia in I believe twenty seventeen, right in twenty seventeen, you know,
• 34:50
  there were all kinds of jokes about drop bears and stuff. But Australia
• 34:52
  was not in and of itself a scary place because we didn't know how vicious
• 34:58
  the feminists were there. We didn't know we were gonna get bomb threats there
• 35:02
  too. It was not so scary for people from the States because that that
• 35:08
  our first convention here, our first conference here was bomb threaded. So yeah,
• 35:20
  but when we when we went to Australia, you know, we went,
• 35:22
  we all flew there and flew home. We stayed in in airbnb places
• 35:31
  that were clean and comfortable and nice neighborhoods, decent places to be where there
• 35:37
  wasn't you know, And I don't think Australia really has that much in terms
• 35:42
  of dangerous neighborhoods. But we certainly weren't. We weren't in a situation where
• 35:51
  we had to confront nature very much. Yeah, they used up all their
• 35:54
  energy just trying to survive. Man, they don't have time to kill each
• 35:59
  other, right, I didn't even I was hoping to see at least one
• 36:05
  scary looking spider. I know, that's a weird thing to hope for but
• 36:07
  it's a once in a lifetime thing for somebody from here. And yeah,
• 36:14
  Mangatka points out Australia it doesn't have dangerous neighbors because the whole country is dangerous.
• 36:17
  Yeah when you're when, that's probably true. But we didn't even see
• 36:22
  a big scary spider like I saw Daddy long Leg. But we got those
• 36:25
  here and so it was a great trip. It was really safe, super
• 36:32
  safe, And I can't imagine what it must have been like being in an
• 36:39
  environment with all of the things that I've read about all of this, the
• 36:45
  animals that are predatory and poisonous, and plants that are poisonous and can cause
• 36:52
  you such bad pain that that animals that brush up against them actually commit suicide,
• 36:59
  which is kind of a rare thing in the animal world. And the
• 37:04
  spiders, you know, like that had to have been unreal for them.
• 37:10
  Just pointing that out. Because Australia also had a different pathway of evolution for
• 37:15
  their voting rights, because they of how they became a country. And I
• 37:22
  should probably also do our super chows well before I go on with this.
• 37:31
  So Meredith g gave us five dollars and said, HBr News three ten honey
• 37:36
  for the Badgers. Let the suffrage discussion continue, and Richard Bierre gave us
• 37:39
  five dollars and said, in lighto gen X not moving out of the parents
• 37:43
  home, I remember the opening of his sitcom where the kid just started out
• 37:45
  calling his parents because his car broke down. Dad asked him if he checked
• 37:50
  the oil, and the kid responded with they put oil in it at the
• 37:52
  factory. And this becomes an argument circle and he winds up moving back in
• 37:59
  with his parents. Ah, and that's there was a lot of that kind
• 38:05
  of portrayal of us when we were kids. There's a super chat here that
• 38:08
  I don't know if it was red or not, so I'm going to read
• 38:12
  it. This is from yesterday. Zapier gave us ten dollars and said,
• 38:17
  open your heart, close her mouth, and feel alive again. Introducing man
• 38:22
  Up, the all new revolutionary pill that will have you strutting with confidence like
• 38:25
  a lion. With every dose, pure unadulterated testosterone will set you right.
• 38:31
  With man Up, your woman won't know what hitter or ask for a fresh
• 38:37
  one. Go ahead and take control. You deserve it. And then he
• 38:39
  gave us another five dollars and said not to be taken seriously, especially by
• 38:44
  anyone who thinks misogyny is a rampant crime against humanity or that women should have
• 38:47
  voices in the workplace. Side effects may include, but are not limited to,
• 38:52
  increased libido with only one outlet available on sudden onset of superiority, complex
• 38:57
  loss of relationship, potential for developing a brute Helpless females who can't seem to
• 39:00
  survive without your protection and provision. Seek immediate medical attention if erection lasts for
• 39:06
  more than four hours. Use responsibly and in a loving relationship. That's about
• 39:10
  as close to the drug announcer that I can get. So that's got us
• 39:20
  caught up on those, and so trying to keep up because some of them
• 39:23
  are in the moment and they relate to things that we were talking about in
• 39:27
  the moment. But like right in the middle of this timeframe of the federal
• 39:34
  naturalization laws at seventeen ninety and seventeen ninety five in the US after the first
• 39:39
  British penal colony has formed, is the storming of the Bastille in France on
• 39:49
  July fourteenth, seventeen eighty nine. Fears that King Louis the sixteenth was about
• 39:55
  to arrest France's newly constituted National Assembly, which they were sort of heading toward
• 40:05
  a more libertarian system, and the royalty didn't like it. Basically, they
• 40:12
  were not happy about that, so led to a crowd, led a crowd
• 40:17
  of Parisians to successfully besiege the Bastille, an old fortress that had been used
• 40:22
  since sixteen fifty nine as a state prison, as a victory by ordinary Parisians
• 40:29
  over prominent representation of the king's course of power. Of the event quickly became
• 40:32
  symbol of revolutionary struggle and it set off the French Revolution. So while that's
• 40:39
  taking place, than we have George Washington being elected in the United States as
• 40:46
  right after the French Revolution was set off December twenty eighth, seventeen eighty eight,
• 40:53
  and it is for some reason it didn't format correctly, so he was
• 40:59
  uniqueanimously elected as the first president sixty nine electoral votes, won the support of
• 41:07
  each participating elector. No other president since has come into office with universal mandate
• 41:14
  to lead. Several have claimed it, but yeah, no. But at
• 41:20
  this point in time, only six percent of the US population was eligible to
• 41:22
  vote. Voting in most states would still have been limited to male landowners at
• 41:30
  that point. So and of course as this happens, it's limited specifically because
• 41:44
  it is citizens of the United States. It's limited specifically to white immigrants.
• 41:51
  You know, anybody that was already there that is a citizen falls into the
• 41:57
  rules that the states had set up up for voting. But anybody that came
• 42:01
  to the United States after the Revolution and wanted to vote, they had to
• 42:06
  be they had to be have been there for two years, and they had
• 42:12
  to be white. So there you go. And as this is going on,
• 42:20
  we still have the disenfranchement enfranchisement of the Irish Catholics that continues. The
• 42:27
  French Revolution continues. In the midst of the French Revolution, we see the
• 42:32
  Decoration Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen in France, and there
• 42:38
  is a link to this which I didn't take any text from it. I
• 42:44
  think it was because I wanted to actually look at it. And so you
• 42:57
  had a few things going on that that led to the revolution, between widespread
• 43:06
  poverty, abuse of power by by monarchy, and and unequal rights in between
• 43:16
  the nobility and the commoners. There was there was a great deal of anger
• 43:24
  and resentment build up among the population. They were I would say, probably
• 43:30
  also afraid that this was just going to continue forever. Enlightenment philosophy was a
• 43:36
  major influence and what really set off confidence, I guess in in the revolutionaries
• 43:45
  in France was seeing the success of the American Revolution. Their ideas began to
• 43:52
  be implemented in the United States, and they began to see actual like actual
• 44:05
  writing and actual laws, actual changes to the way the population was run.
• 44:08
  They began to see, you know, how how government would be if it
• 44:15
  wasn't what they were under and instead was what they were considering. What they
• 44:21
  what they had been talking about, used the devil or the Declaration of Independence
• 44:28
  as a template, and they don't want to sign up. So that was
• 44:39
  I wanted to point out a great deal of influence, you know, uh
• 44:45
  during the revolution and Ben Franklin actually had gone to France to ask for help,
• 44:50
  and France did join on the side of the colonists in their revolution.
• 44:57
  So uh h, that is it's it's not why we hate the French.
• 45:05
  They they joined on our side. And actually, I you know, there's
• 45:08
  a complicated history of why Americans don't get along with the French. And I
• 45:15
  think a lot of it is misconceptions and differences in culture between how we look
• 45:22
  at everyday life. And people talk about France surrendering to uh, you know,
• 45:35
  to Germany, But the whole time there was an underground, a revolutionary
• 45:44
  underground there as well, a resistance, and they risked their lives. They
• 45:49
  were just absolutely incredibly courageous people who do deserve to be respected for what they
• 46:00
  did. But uh so it's I don't I don't like the black and white
• 46:07
  view of that. I think that just like in every other country, they're
• 46:15
  the people of France include people who are very courageous, people who are very
• 46:21
  strong, people who are very wise, and uh and so on, and
• 46:27
  then they're there are also assholes, right and fools. Every country has them.
• 46:36
  Everybody has an asshole. You can't live without it, I might stink,
• 46:40
  but if you get rid of it, you have problems. Yeah so
• 46:45
  I yeah, I it's kind of bullshit, the surrender meme. They were
• 46:52
  defeated and and and it happens. Every country has one wars and lost wars
• 46:58
  and uh, you know, not every country can can lose a war and
• 47:01
  still change the way their enemy behaves. Right, But you know, every
• 47:07
  every country has one wars and lost war. So I the surrender thing,
• 47:14
  I'm not buying it. You know, I hope things get better in France
• 47:19
  than they are right now. I will say that there are things that I'm
• 47:22
  seeing and hearing in the news that I feel for the French people, like
• 47:25
  they're going backwards right now, So that kind of breaks my heart. So
• 47:34
  obviously there were there were different things going on in France and there were in
• 47:38
  in the United States. There there was a different mode and style of of
• 47:46
  abusive power by the monarchy and the monarchy some of the monarchs were kind of
• 47:52
  clueless, although some of the things that were said about how clueless the monarchs
• 47:58
  were are are not quite act Like Marie Antoinette probably never actually said let them
• 48:02
  eat cake, but the cluelessness was there. She was like a teenager.
• 48:08
  So the French Revolution is continuing, and we have and I did. Yeah,
• 48:20
  that was George Washington's election. So we have the first elections in Lower
• 48:22
  Canada in seventeen ninety two and anyone over twenty one who owns sufficient property can
• 48:32
  vote, including women. So we hear a lot about women's suffrage in Canada.
• 48:42
  In seventeen ninety two the first elections in Lower Canada women could vote,
• 48:54
  and September twenty two, seventeen ninety two, the National Convention is established in
• 49:02
  France. About a month after the king is arrested, the monarchy is abolished
• 49:09
  and the French Republic is established. The king has tried, and on January
• 49:15
  twenty first, seventeen ninety three, he is executed as a trader. Jesus.
• 49:21
  Yeah, oh, that's minor. That revolution is incredibly bloody and horrifying.
• 49:30
  The next thing that comes up, though, we finally come to the
• 49:36
  end of Irish Catholic disenfranchisement ninety seven years four ninety seven years in Ireland,
• 49:42
  if you were Catholic you could not vote. You could be full blooded Irish
• 49:49
  born, native to the country, your parents, your grandparents, your great
• 49:53
  grandparents, going all the way back to before the the British Empire, going
• 50:02
  back before the Roman Empire. Even you can vote. Unbelievable. So yeah,
• 50:15
  the parliamentary franchise in the Irish countries was specifically withheld by statute. This
• 50:22
  barred eighty percent of the adult male population in the counties of Ireland from exercising
• 50:30
  the vote. In parliamentary elections. Wow, oh my god, that seventy
• 50:37
  nine does not belong there. I think that is a that's supposed to go
• 50:43
  to a reference, bibliography reference. But restrictions on Catholics voting in the borough
• 50:52
  parliamentary elections had been in place before seventeen twenty seven under local bylaws or you
• 50:59
  know, early your restrictions have been placed on Catholic voters by requiring that they
• 51:02
  should take discriminatory oaths. And the discriminatory oaths were pretty bad. They had
• 51:08
  to, if I remember right, they had to deny the sovereignty of the
• 51:12
  pope. There were two things they had to do that would have been considered
• 51:16
  blasphemy. So basically, you know, they couldn't do it under their religious
• 51:22
  practices out of a It'd be like saying to a Muslim or a Jew,
• 51:30
  well, if you want to vote in our county, before you approach the
• 51:34
  poles, you have to, you know, eat food that you're forbidden to
• 51:39
  eat in your religion, or you go to hell. You know, you
• 51:42
  have to commit a sin of blasphemy that will send you to hell. You
• 51:49
  have to deny, you know, the the validity of your religious beliefs.
• 51:52
  But it was done to Catholics instead. Yeah, and so then we had
• 52:00
  a whole set of laws that were passed, and I have links to those
• 52:06
  also in the timeline. I'm not going to go over all of them,
• 52:10
  but we have an Act to restrain Foreign Education and an Act for the better
• 52:20
  securing the government by disarming papists were both established in sixty ninety five. So
• 52:28
  the onset of the French Revolution made it more urgent to address Catholic grievances.
• 52:34
  So the reason that Catholics got their voting rights back, or got their voting
• 52:39
  rights in Ireland was because what was going on in France was so terrifying to
• 52:50
  the monarchy, to the powers that be, that they decided that they should
• 52:55
  not piss off the commoners. Happened in the US. They saw what happened
• 53:01
  in France, and they said, okay, maybe we should be nicer.
• 53:12
  Let's see Albertnada Retro gave us five dollars Canadian and said, simple to French,
• 53:15
  are ungrateful? Cussy face? It has that like we think they are
• 53:22
  above North Americans. But I do agree that about the surrender meme. They
• 53:25
  got caught flat footed. Yeah, I don't think they were expecting what happened
• 53:30
  at all. So Irish Irish Catholic disenfranchisement ends right about the time of something
• 53:40
  called the Wars of the Vanity or Venita. I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
• 53:46
  And this was terrifying. This is absolutely terrifying. So I'm gonna take
• 53:51
  a look at this like if you were it's not terrifying so much if you
• 53:55
  weren't a part of it. But all right, come on, fingers,
• 54:05
  I don't want an announcement from you. There we go. So counter revolutionary
• 54:14
  insert insurrections in the west of France during the French Revolution is what these are.
• 54:19
  These are the important things to note about it. There's a general uprising
• 54:27
  starting uh with the conscription Acts of February seventeen ninety three. Then there's rioting,
• 54:38
  and then there is open revolt like by the thirteenth. The uprising coincided
• 54:47
  with rising disaffection in Lyon and in Marcel and Normany. Norman d be and
• 54:58
  seriously threatened their the revolution internally at a time when it had just suffered a
• 55:02
  military defeat. So the peasant leaders, joined by royalist nobles, took took
• 55:14
  three towns, changed the name from the Catholic Army to the Catholic and Royal
• 55:20
  army, and like started started taking over other areas. Right, there was
• 55:30
  almost this, if I remember right, from we didn't do like a whole
• 55:38
  discussion on world history in uh in my high school history class. So if
• 55:45
  I remember right, this was what my teacher cited as this this almost ended
• 55:49
  to the revolution. But here we go, fifteen thousand rebels were killed in
• 55:58
  bloody battle. General warfare is now at an end, but several reprisals taken
• 56:07
  by the commander provoked further resistance. So they're here, we have this during
• 56:15
  this revolution, we have bloody battle after bloody battle taking place. And for
• 56:23
  the people that were involved, the uprisings of the Royalists basically represented a threat
• 56:35
  that actually, they're not going to get their freedom. Actually you're going to
• 56:39
  be fighting and dying and committing murder and putting yourself in a position to be
• 56:45
  executed for your crimes if you don't die in battle against the Royalists, and
• 56:52
  nothing will come of it. Right, So that would have been in the
• 56:55
  midst of all that that would have been terrifying. And this took place for
• 57:04
  quite some time. But in the midst of this, just as terrifying,
• 57:12
  you had the reign of terror. And this is the most famous part of
• 57:15
  the French Revolution. This how to explain this. Everybody was suspect, all
• 57:30
  right, So you had what I just described is going on. You had
• 57:37
  the the ideas at the time. The evolution of ideas at the time was
• 57:45
  so rapid fire and so such dramatic change that people were fired up. People
• 57:54
  were not just a little fired up, people were extremely fired up up.
• 58:00
  And so when when this took place, nothing, nothing was There was no
• 58:07
  orderly uh, here's what we're going to do, and here's how we're going
• 58:12
  to do it, and then we're going to be done with it. It
• 58:15
  was everybody against everybody, and you had factions against factions. You had historic
• 58:24
  cancel culture is a great way to put it. Oh I oh, I
• 58:27
  see And Wowie said yeah, historic cancel culture, right, And mister three
• 58:34
  oh three said violence is the ultimate authority from which all other authorities derived.
• 58:37
  Both of those are relevant to this. Right. By the way, Packard
• 58:43
  Tom has some some uh context for the disenfranchisement of the Catholics. He says,
• 58:52
  Badger live streams, do you realize that bloody Mary tried to exterminate all
• 58:55
  Protestants in England and imprisoned Queen Elizabeth. Yes, yes, so you and
• 59:00
  that was that was not Ireland, that was Scotland. But it is still
• 59:07
  all one sort of one big area that you know, all this stuff was
• 59:12
  taking place in. But and Quicksilver Tongue says roughly von Day Hannah, according
• 59:22
  to what remains of my high school French? Yeah, my high school French
• 59:24
  was kind of I actually it's the only class I had his studying the whole
• 59:29
  time I was in high school. Really yeah, I like I took calculus,
• 59:35
  I took chemistry and physics, and I didn't have to I could memorize
• 59:39
  that. Suff was all like fascinating to me. But when I took the
• 59:44
  French language, it wasn't that it wasn't interesting. It was just something about
• 59:49
  it was different enough from not the vocabulary, but I mean the vocabulary was
• 59:52
  different too, but there was something about it and made it different enough from
• 59:57
  English that I had a learning curve there that you I didn't have in anything
• 1:00:01
  else. So yeah, it's there was a video that I watched. It
• 1:00:07
  was like just a little YouTube short, but it was how French people would
• 1:00:14
  sound if they were actually speaking English, and the change, like the way
• 1:00:20
  the sentences are structured. It's so weird. It's so so I understand that,
• 1:00:25
  like it's it is. It is a weird language. Although when I
• 1:00:30
  was it's not as different as Asian languages are. Yeah, like our grammar
• 1:00:37
  and their grammar is incompatible. Yeah. Absolutely. When I was in high
• 1:00:43
  school, you know, they they taught French to the smarter kids, and
• 1:00:50
  I think that was how it broke down. I don't know. My brother
• 1:00:52
  took French, but I was in Spanish. But I did take French in
• 1:00:57
  college and I actually ace that I found it really easy. But you know,
• 1:01:05
  it's for me. It's kind of the same with Spanish. Like I
• 1:01:07
  can, I can pronounce the words very well, but holding a conversation is
• 1:01:12
  a completely different story. You know, it's hard for me to do it.
• 1:01:16
  It's something it's a skill that I wish that I had, and I
• 1:01:19
  should practice on it. I know I should. But what I found when
• 1:01:22
  I was in school was that repetition and conversation, and it made a big
• 1:01:30
  difference. So I took I took French in high school. I got in
• 1:01:34
  the I was in the the what they called the gifted class when I was
• 1:01:38
  in elementary school. I don't like calling it that because they didn't have anything
• 1:01:42
  for art art students that were gifted, or music students that were gifted.
• 1:01:46
  They didn't really have anything for any of the students that were gifted in ways
• 1:01:52
  that were more creativity oriented. They just had something for students that were good
• 1:01:55
  at math and who progressed rapidly in the skill of reading, which you can
• 1:02:06
  say that's gifted, but it hardly covers the spectrum of ways in which kids
• 1:02:10
  are gifted, right, So I didn't I don't. I don't like the
• 1:02:16
  name, right. But one of the things they did was have students from
• 1:02:21
  the high school Spanish class come in and teach us vocabulary, and that stuck
• 1:02:27
  with me for a long time. But I didn't take Spanish in high school.
• 1:02:30
  I took French, and then I took Spanish in college. And my
• 1:02:39
  professor was from Brazil, and so she had a very thick Brazilian accent.
• 1:02:45
  It was beautiful. It was so much fun to listen to talk. She
• 1:02:49
  had a deep voice, and so I learned to speak with her accent.
• 1:02:55
  In all of the things that I learned in that course, and so I
• 1:03:00
  didn't get to use it. Afterwards, it didn't stick with me. I
• 1:03:02
  would have to go back and relearn it all. But it was funny.
• 1:03:07
  The whole class spoke with her accent when we spoke, when we spoke Spanish,
• 1:03:15
  and I, you know, I grew up in a community where we
• 1:03:19
  had very little contact with people from Brazil, but quite a bit of contact
• 1:03:23
  with people from parts of Mexico, and there were a few different Mexican accents,
• 1:03:28
  and some of them spoke Spanish, you know, some of them wouldn't.
• 1:03:34
  They could, but they wouldn't, and they were stuck with English because
• 1:03:37
  they wanted to integrate. But there were different different accents and as I recognized
• 1:03:43
  the difference in accent, it was kind of neat. But anyway, that's
• 1:03:47
  not what we're talking about. Yes, and this is what I have written
• 1:03:57
  here in fighting within the National Convention leads to the I need to make this
• 1:04:04
  bigger. My eyes there, Sucking tonight leads to the radical I'm like looking
• 1:04:13
  at that and seeing racial the radical Montagnards taking power, and that's probably really
• 1:04:20
  butchered. I don't care. At this point. This marks the start of
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  the bloody reign of Terror, a year long period in which suspected enemies of
• 1:04:29
  the revolution are killed in their thousands. During the Reign of Terror, at
• 1:04:33
  least three hundred thousand suspects were arrested, seventeen thousand were officially executed, and
• 1:04:42
  perhaps ten thousand died in prisoner without trial. Wow. Right, that's nasty.
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  Yeah, So when you look at voting rights in France, this is
• 1:04:56
  something to consider as well. Talk about voting rights being steeped in blood.
• 1:05:04
  This is a lot of blood. Tragic am And again this is in the
• 1:05:15
  middle of the revolution. I don't think. Yeah, we covered the first
• 1:05:23
  elections in Lower Canada women could vote, so after the Reign of Terror is
• 1:05:29
  the Thermidorian reaction. So this is I got a little bit more here about
• 1:05:39
  the Thermidorian reaction refers to the period of the French Revolution between the fall of
• 1:05:44
  Maximilian I guess this is Robespierre on the twenty seventh and twenty eighth of July
• 1:05:54
  in seventeen ninety four and the establishment of the French Directory on the second of
• 1:06:00
  November in seventeen ninety five. The Thermidorians would have been they abandoned radical Jacobean
• 1:06:10
  politics in favor of conservative ones. They wanted a restoration of the stable constitutional
• 1:06:15
  government and economic liberalism, but they conspired against They conspired against Robospre Robospierre,
• 1:06:29
  and after his execution, this regime set about dismantling the reign of terror.
• 1:06:36
  So he would have been the leader driving the reign of terror, purged Jacobeans
• 1:06:43
  from positions of power and violently suppressed their ideology. So they actually fought back
• 1:06:50
  and killed for this. This was referred to as the first White Terror,
• 1:06:56
  and this was an effort to return stability. Different They went into a more
• 1:07:01
  conservative UH political ideas and sort of returned to earlier phases of the revolution.
• 1:07:12
  There were a lot of they got more and more out there during the bloody
• 1:07:16
  parts of the revolution. They restored freedom of religion, reintroduced free market capitalism.
• 1:07:24
  They were they were heading toward more of a highly controlled system. I
• 1:07:30
  will say. They allowed the return of some aristocratic immigrats into France and UH
• 1:07:40
  there was actually for a while a bit of uh an an openly royalist sentiment.
• 1:07:45
  So people were actually accepting the idea of a monarchy, which they're they're
• 1:07:51
  still that This wasn't universally accepted. This was kind of Some people were all
• 1:08:00
  right, all right, if it's you know, for peace, we'll do
• 1:08:03
  this, and some people were enthusiastic about it, and then other people were
• 1:08:06
  like, no, this is not the direction we want to go. So
• 1:08:10
  you had you had a lot of different outlooks in regard to that. I'm
• 1:08:16
  going to shrink this down a little bit because I think, yeah, it's
• 1:08:19
  a little bit before. We have much more going on in the United States.
• 1:08:25
  But uh, there's a whole bunch of things going on in France at
• 1:08:29
  the time. You can, and and also in other other things as well.
• 1:08:36
  So we have the conscription law called Jordan's Law. I don't know why
• 1:08:48
  I have that selected, but the first French Republic on September fifth, seventeen
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  ninety eight called for mass conscription of all unmarried men between the age of twenty
• 1:09:00
  and twenty five to help fight the War of the Second Coalition. So that
• 1:09:05
  was the it's named after the president, the sitting president of the of the
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  Council. And I'm just distracted here. Well, you mean YouTube wouldn't let
• 1:09:19
  you use the word condom in what That's crazy? That? Okay, Albert
• 1:09:32
  Nadaretris says, gave US five dollars Canadian and said, my dad was Protestant,
• 1:09:36
  my mom was is Catholic, which means I can wear a rubber,
• 1:09:41
  but I can only unroll it halfway, which is about right. God,
• 1:09:46
  that's great, that's hilarious. So here we go, right in the end
• 1:09:56
  phases of the revolution that they start with conscription, and so now you have
• 1:10:06
  the government being overthrown November nine, seventeen ninety nine, replaced with the French
• 1:10:15
  Consulate. Napoleon Bonaparte becomes it comes to power, and in the view of
• 1:10:20
  many historians, this marks the end of the French Revolution. So at the
• 1:10:26
  same time or shortly thereafter, here the Dutch East India Company dissolves. So
• 1:10:34
  now there's no more rivalry between the Dutchy India Company and the British East India
• 1:10:39
  Company because there's nothing to be a rival with. The company went bankrupt and
• 1:10:43
  the government formally dissolved it on December thirty one, seventeen ninety nine. So
• 1:10:48
  remember these East India companies, I think Mike compare them to the Black Rock
• 1:10:58
  of their day, which is pretty accurate. They had government level power,
• 1:11:02
  so they could go in, they had their own armies, they could go
• 1:11:08
  in and take over an area and exploit it economically, and the people there
• 1:11:12
  really couldn't do a whole lot about it. The French East India Company continued
• 1:11:17
  like that, continued to exist. So we have the time span of the
• 1:11:21
  rivalry between the British and East Indian and Dutch East India companies was one hundred
• 1:11:27
  and ninety eight years, almost one hundred ninety nine years, and then the
• 1:11:31
  French East India Company you can see it existed for one hundred and thirty five
• 1:11:35
  years. Wow, this was long standing. So as after all of this
• 1:11:45
  has taken place, So now the bloody French Revolution has ended. And I
• 1:11:51
  thought I had put in some things about the advent of the French government,
• 1:11:58
  but I don't think I did. I think I stopped at Napoleon. We
• 1:12:04
  now have some changes taking place back in the at Jack Cobean's well, yeah,
• 1:12:15
  that would be the that would be appropriate since it is French, so
• 1:12:24
  it would be instead of Jake, it would be Jock. I'm going to
• 1:12:30
  really briefly, I don't think I'm going to actually open this because it's just
• 1:12:35
  this is for reference. There is a link. New Hampshire became the first
• 1:12:41
  state to say, well, you don't have to be a landowner to vote
• 1:12:46
  in eighteen oh six. Yep, eighteen oh six. And this one is
• 1:12:50
  really weird. Eighteen oh seven. So New Jersey. When New Jersey,
• 1:12:59
  you know, be came a state at the beginning after the Revolution, anybody
• 1:13:04
  could vote. Everybody could vote. You didn't have to be an American citizen
• 1:13:11
  to vote in New Jersey. You could be a woman and vote, you
• 1:13:15
  could be a man and vote. You could be any race, any any
• 1:13:17
  ethnic background. They were lucky. People weren't letting their dogs vote in New
• 1:13:24
  Jersey. I'm sure a few of them probably did in some district. But
• 1:13:31
  yeah, Then there was this election where both of the candidates were accusing the
• 1:13:39
  other of fraud. Both of the candidates were accusing the other of stealing the
• 1:13:44
  election. Everybody was claiming that people were voting multiple times, and everybody was
• 1:13:51
  claiming that the women's vote was fraudulent, that there were a lot of men
• 1:13:57
  that were dressing up as women and voting, and there a lot of the
• 1:14:00
  claims were true. A really bad thing about this election. So there were
• 1:14:05
  people that voted multiple times by going in dressed as men and voting and then
• 1:14:11
  going back in dressed as women and voting. So the election itself at that
• 1:14:16
  time was just completely worthless. They didn't have any kind of election security,
• 1:14:23
  they didn't know who voted, how many times, they didn't any none of
• 1:14:26
  that right, So the New Jersey passed the new law. This is December
• 1:14:36
  sixteenth, nineteen oh seven. See if it shows, yeah, it shows
• 1:14:42
  Okay. Following this highly contentious, contentious election, the Democratic Republican Party,
• 1:14:50
  which eventually over time years later became the Democrat Party, they passed a law
• 1:14:59
  in New Jersey that you you had to be free, white, and male
• 1:15:01
  over the age of twenty one in order to vote. So that was New
• 1:15:08
  Jersey putting all kinds of restrictions. So they took voting rights away from minorities,
• 1:15:14
  they took voting rights away from non citizens, they took voting rights away
• 1:15:17
  from people under the age of twenty one and away from women. And let's
• 1:15:27
  see, then we have as this is happening, here's where the War of
• 1:15:31
  eighteen twelve happens. And again this is where the US is said to have
• 1:15:40
  lost this war, But it was started over the impressment of American sailors into
• 1:15:48
  the British military to fight British wars that America wasn't involved in, and Britain
• 1:15:58
  never used the method of conscription again after this war. So you know,
• 1:16:05
  I don't know how many countries can lose a war and still make their enemy
• 1:16:10
  change what they were, what they went to war to make them change.
• 1:16:13
  But we did. I say we, like I was around at that time,
• 1:16:20
  So I don't think there's there's not much below the line here. But
• 1:16:25
  the French East India Trading Company still exists, and I believe the British one
• 1:16:29
  does too. I need to go back and fix that because I know I
• 1:16:30
  had a timeline for that there as well. So now we have in the
• 1:16:38
  US the Treaty of Guadalupe Guadalupe Hildago, and that's probably not The Hildago is
• 1:16:46
  probably not right, and why won't it open? There we go? This
• 1:16:50
  was signed on February two, eighteen forty eight, ended the war between the
• 1:16:56
  United States and Mexico. By its terms, Mexican co seated fifty five percent
• 1:17:00
  of the territory, including the present day states California, Nevada, Utah,
• 1:17:05
  New Mexico, most of Arizona, Colorado, parts of Oklahoma, Kansas and
• 1:17:11
  Wyoming. Mexico also relinquished all claims to Texas and recognized the Rio Grande as
• 1:17:18
  the southern boundary in the United States. So previously we were at war with
• 1:17:26
  them at that time. Now, let's see, we aren't up to eighteen
• 1:17:30
  thirty two yet. Okay, this is where we have. New York December
• 1:17:33
  thirty one, eighteen twenty two, decides that you have to have two hundred
• 1:17:38
  and fifty dollars of property worth of property to be able to vote if you're
• 1:17:45
  black. So there wasn't that same property requirement if you were white. So
• 1:17:51
  that was kind of like a Jim Crow law before Jim Crow. Yeah,
• 1:18:01
  and those they they had a bunch of different states did different things like that
• 1:18:06
  in the South, but h New York often like do you hear people talk
• 1:18:15
  about New York like it was always better? But it wasn't Maryland. I
• 1:18:23
  don't know what type was caught new You didn't allow the used to vote.
• 1:18:29
  Oh, my lord, accident. I didn't want to open the link there,
• 1:18:32
  I mean close that. But yeah, and then January fifth, eighteen
• 1:18:39
  twenty six, Maryland passed the law allowing Jews to vote. Prior to that,
• 1:18:44
  they could not. Wow. Yeah, still New Jersey was like Chicago.
• 1:18:49
  Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I mean, but
• 1:18:53
  I now this brings up a question for me because this is after the Constitution
• 1:18:58
  was drafted. Right, well, now, maybe I don't know completely.
• 1:19:03
  Maybe I'm talking completely out of school. I'm not a history student. I've
• 1:19:08
  really hated this stuff. You know, now it's interesting, but I hated
• 1:19:13
  it back then. But so where does the whole separation of church and state
• 1:19:16
  come in? If you're not allowing people to vote based on their religious affiliation,
• 1:19:24
  that's certainly a valid question, right, I mean what we were taught
• 1:19:30
  though, if you look at the wording of the amendment, it doesn't include
• 1:19:36
  an admonition that there will be separation a church and state. The purpose was
• 1:19:42
  to separate the church from the state, but the actual amendment pretty well states
• 1:19:49
  that the state will not establish a church. So the state doesn't control the
• 1:19:55
  church and the church doesn't control the state. And so the actual application of
• 1:20:05
  it that it's been called into question from almost day one throughout the history of
• 1:20:15
  the country. And if I remember, right, actually gonna look and see
• 1:20:21
  what was the date, all right, that computer's been ship there we go.
• 1:20:45
  So the the Constitution, the First Amendment in particular, that was only
• 1:21:00
  see thirty thirty seven years old at that point. So yeah, for that
• 1:21:14
  that rarely wasn't that long. I mean yeah wow. But yeah, So
• 1:21:28
  Maryland had to pass a law to allow Juice to vote. Now, there
• 1:21:31
  might have been a couple of other reasons for that. There may have been
• 1:21:35
  not a statute but a practice rather than you know, a statute. M
• 1:21:42
  hmm. It's like, so they may have had to pass a lot that
• 1:21:45
  says you can't stop people from voting just because they're Jews. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:50
  So then we had the June first, eighteen twenty eight, and now
• 1:22:00
  to know this, this is important to know. In eighteen forty four,
• 1:22:02
  at least seven women voted in the West Halton District of Canada West now Ontario
• 1:22:11
  in the United Province of Canada now Ontario and Quebec election. The candidate who
• 1:22:18
  lost the West Halton election called for a parliamentary investigation, claiming women voting was
• 1:22:26
  election fraud. In June one, eighteen twenty eight, women were disenfranchised by
• 1:22:34
  law, so although the election results were not to return, the incident led
• 1:22:39
  to the eighteen forty nine motion passed the United Province of Canada Parliament that proclaimed
• 1:22:45
  and decreed that no woman shall have the right to vote at any election.
• 1:22:51
  So they completely disenfranchised women. Let's see at that point. So as Canada,
• 1:23:00
  you know, we have a skinny thing here that oops wrong direction.
• 1:23:04
  We want it bigger so I can actually click on it. There we go.
• 1:23:11
  Then we have in France the July Revolution. The July Revolution happens in
• 1:23:17
  eighteen thirty This is like we talked about this before, when we were talking
• 1:23:23
  about this is actually what got me started on this timeline too. So we
• 1:23:28
  were talking about how the Great Reform Act of eighteen thirty two got passed in
• 1:23:35
  Britain. Right, So the Great Great Reform Act was influenced by this July
• 1:23:45
  Revolution, and fortunately it was not bloody like the original French Revolution was.
• 1:23:54
  But so it led to the overthrow of King Charles the tenth, the French
• 1:24:00
  Bourbon monarch, and the assent of his cousin Louis Philippe, Duke of Orleans.
• 1:24:06
  It's probably pronounced differently than it is here in the United States, but
• 1:24:12
  this is what I'm familiar with. So, and this was again about Catholicism,
• 1:24:19
  if I if I remember right, Yeah, Charles ex of France took
• 1:24:27
  far more conservative lane than his brother Louis. He attempted to rule as an
• 1:24:32
  absolute monarch and reassert the power of the Catholic Church in France. This pissed
• 1:24:38
  everybody off. Acts of sacrilegion, churches became punishable by death, freedom of
• 1:24:45
  the press was severely restricted. He tried to compensate the families of the nobles
• 1:24:50
  who had their property destroyed during the French Revolution. It was just like he
• 1:24:56
  was trying to get taken out of Yeah, geese, It's all right,
• 1:25:04
  you rebel arousers. You've had your fun, but now now we're going,
• 1:25:09
  Oh what what do you got there? Didn't didn't go well for him.
• 1:25:16
  So in eighteen thirty, the discontent caused by these changes, by his authoritarian
• 1:25:21
  nomination of the the ultra Prince de Oh, good grief, I'm poll nac.
• 1:25:30
  I don't know if the g is even pronounced as minister, culminated in
• 1:25:34
  an uprising in the streets of Paris known as as the eighteen thirty July Revolution
• 1:25:44
  or the Glorious Revolution the Three Glorious Days. Charles was forced to free flee
• 1:25:51
  and Louis Philippe, and it was was who had who had voted the death
• 1:26:00
  of his cousin. Oh wow, ascended to the throne like these guys were
• 1:26:04
  just it's completely violent and bloody all around. But Louis fully Louis Philippe ruled
• 1:26:14
  not as king of France but as king of the French. Very important distinction
• 1:26:18
  because he basically was calling himself the people's king and not the authority over the
• 1:26:27
  people, which is kind of interesting. It was made clear that his right
• 1:26:33
  to rule came from the people and was not divinely granted. He ruled with
• 1:26:40
  their consent, so there there was there was quite a bit there, and
• 1:26:46
  he revived the I don't know how it's pronounced in French, but it looks
• 1:26:53
  like maybe tricolor or tricolor as the flag of France, and that was a
• 1:27:01
  symbol of the revolution. So that made a big difference. So that scared
• 1:27:08
  the piss out of the British monarchy and the British Parliament, and we get
• 1:27:15
  the Great Reform Act of eighteen thirty two, which UK Government's National Archives describes
• 1:27:29
  or summarizes as follows. The Reform Act became law in response to years of
• 1:27:32
  criticism of the electoral system from those outside and inside Parliament. Elections in Britain
• 1:27:39
  were neither fair nor representative. In order to vote, a person had to
• 1:27:44
  own property or pay certain taxes to qualify, which excluded most working class people.
• 1:27:56
  There were also constituencies with several voters that elected two MP's to Parliament,
• 1:28:00
  such as old Sarum and Salisbury. In these quote rotten boroughs with few voters
• 1:28:08
  and no secret ballot, it was easy for those standing for election to buy
• 1:28:12
  votes. Industrial towns like Manchester or Birmingham, which had grown during the previous
• 1:28:17
  eighty years, had no members of Parliament to represent them, so they had
• 1:28:21
  huge areas of population for the time period that were just completely unrepresented. And
• 1:28:28
  then they had these little villages that had you know, maybe ten families,
• 1:28:34
  and they would send two members to Parliament, and the two members could buy
• 1:28:41
  those votes and keep their seats regardless of how they behaved in parliament. So
• 1:28:48
  in eighteen thirty one, the House of Commons passed the reform Bill, but
• 1:28:51
  the House of Lords, dominated by the Tory Party, defeated it. The
• 1:28:58
  Tory Party was also the party that did not want to give any concessions to
• 1:29:02
  the American Revolution or the pre Revolution the colonist demands for fair treatment, so
• 1:29:13
  they didn't like that either. So this was followed by a series of riots,
• 1:29:20
  serious disturbances in London, Birmingham, Derby, Nottingham, Leicester, Jovial
• 1:29:30
  shearborn in Exeter and Bristol. So the page further states that the act itself
• 1:29:36
  only gave the franchise to middle classmen, so still didn't give the franchise to
• 1:29:41
  the poor. So other things to be to understand Ryan Miller's page or paper
• 1:29:49
  A Dire Need for Parliamentary reform or the role of elite fears in Britain's Great
• 1:29:55
  Reform Bill of eighteen thirty two, which we went over I think before,
• 1:30:00
  explains that during the debate between the Whigs and the Tories, there was that
• 1:30:10
  they brought up the fear of revolution launched by the French Revolution, catalyzed by
• 1:30:16
  these protests that were taking place, And while we were discussing this, he
• 1:30:24
  explains and is it is abstract here Wig MP's insisted Britain reform or face down,
• 1:30:30
  face revolution. Tory imps downplayed any immediate threat and then massive unrest materialized
• 1:30:38
  in Bristol and the conversation like just radically changed. The peasants started revolting,
• 1:30:45
  and they were like, oh, well they might do that. Okay,
• 1:30:49
  let's have a discussion about these voting rights. Yeah, you know. And
• 1:30:56
  and again it's like right after, you know, friends that had their revolution,
• 1:31:00
  they were they had a pathway after the revolution, they were governed,
• 1:31:04
  they had you know, still had their royalty and so on, and they
• 1:31:09
  had another little revolution in the middle of peacetime afterward, like right before this,
• 1:31:15
  they can't make up their minds, yeah, you know. And and
• 1:31:18
  the middle class had had changed from what it had been previously as well,
• 1:31:25
  Like they had access to new things that made their lives different. So their
• 1:31:30
  discontent was influenced, I think partly by by those changes. And at the
• 1:31:39
  same time they they had the industrial revolution changed two things for the middle class.
• 1:31:45
  Like, first of all, you used to it used to be comprised
• 1:31:47
  of people who worked with their hands and owned their own businesses and and so
• 1:31:53
  on. And you had more and more people going to work in factories and
• 1:32:00
  in areas of resource gathering four factories, right, and so it changed the
• 1:32:08
  way labor was done. It changed the poor class as well, because there
• 1:32:12
  were a lot of there's a lot of automation that was run by people who
• 1:32:16
  didn't get paid very much to do it, and so you had this massive
• 1:32:23
  change in the way people's time was spent, massive changes in the way they
• 1:32:29
  perceived their safety and their interest in decisions the government made, for instance,
• 1:32:36
  one of the things that and I don't know if I put it on the
• 1:32:40
  timeline, and me look and see if I did, there was there was
• 1:32:45
  legislation that was passed in regard to corn, the sale of corn that had
• 1:32:54
  a profound effect on part of the British economy, that pissed people off and
• 1:33:00
  a protest and affected the way the environment in which voting rights were decided upon.
• 1:33:06
  I don't think I did include I should include that in the timeline,
• 1:33:14
  but it's not. It's not. It might be later, and I might
• 1:33:16
  just be mistaking it for something that took place this early. But the Great
• 1:33:20
  Reform Act happens, and then a few years later, Canada abolishes slavery in
• 1:33:27
  eighteen thirty four August first, eighteen thirty four, so they're actually freed as
• 1:33:34
  a result of passage of the Slavery Abolition Act by the British Parliament. And
• 1:33:46
  then let's see we have a large area here where not a lot is happening.
• 1:33:56
  And then yeah, the Active Union in Canada takes place, which is
• 1:34:09
  passed by British Parliament in July eighteen forty and proclaimed ten February eighteen forty one,
• 1:34:16
  and it united the colonies of Upper Canada and Lower Canada under one government,
• 1:34:21
  creating the province of Canada. Jeez, how many people actually lived in
• 1:34:27
  Upper Canada? What like ten people? They would have had to brave some
• 1:34:31
  pretty bad weather, you know. A couple of years later, a New
• 1:34:38
  South Wales Constitution Act of eighteen forty two in Australia happens. So as all
• 1:34:45
  of this is going on, right there is still like as these are taking
• 1:34:49
  place, voting in the United States is almost all done by white people.
• 1:34:56
  Only about six percent of the population can vote under the law that was just
• 1:35:03
  passed in Britain. I think less than four percent of the British population could
• 1:35:10
  vote, So we're still looking at most suffrage is most of most of the
• 1:35:17
  population is denied suffrage. New South Wales growing demands resulted in the British Parliament
• 1:35:29
  passing New South Wales First Constitution Act, made the first significant state or step
• 1:35:34
  toward responsible government in New South Wales. So it's the first step toward it
• 1:35:41
  going from being a penal colony to an actual just a colony. And this
• 1:35:47
  is when they had their first elections. Very restricted franchise and you had to
• 1:36:00
  have property worth two hundred pounds or more or pay annual household rent of at
• 1:36:05
  least twenty pounds, so very small percentage of the population. Remember they went
• 1:36:11
  there with nothing. People would arrive there with nothing, you know, unless
• 1:36:16
  they were guards employees. So now we have things happening in different countries and
• 1:36:27
  we have a whole cluster again. So as Australia is sort of moving forward
• 1:36:38
  toward becoming a nation government force of British soldiers and Victorian police stormed the Eureka
• 1:36:46
  Stockade and there was a battle less than an hour, by the end of
• 1:36:53
  which thirty three miners and five soldiers were dead. Led to fairer goldfield system
• 1:36:59
  with a license replaced by cheaper miners right giving miners the right to vote.
• 1:37:04
  That's miners as in people who dug coal out of the ground, not children.
• 1:37:12
  So this was scus scene as the first step, one of the first
• 1:37:15
  steps to developing the Australian democracy. Then they have in eighteen sixty five open
• 1:37:30
  sesame the Electoral Act of eighteen sixty five when South Australia became the first state
• 1:37:36
  where all men were given the vote universal mail suffrage, making it one of
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  the most democratic places in the world at the time all men, not all
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  white men. So they were out of the United States right there, because
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  we didn't we didn't, we weren't that advanced. In fact, we had
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  some things coming up that were pretty despicable in our vote in history. And
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  they also introduced the secret ballot, which the nice thing about the secret ballot
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  is that your neighbors don't get mad at you for who you voted for unless
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  you tell them, because you don't have to. And right after that we
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  have something called a Gradual Civilization Act in Canada. This was this was a
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  government policy that that basically was designed to destroy the culture of the indigenous people.
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  They were re educating them like re education camps type at re educating they
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  created a school system that has has to this day. There's there's a huge
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  divide over it. So and then there was there was a lot of abuse
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  that took place, although some of the abuse that was alleged to take place
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  was kind of debunked by the fact that where there were supposed to be bodies,
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  there were no bodies. But it does not mean that there was no
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  abuse. It simply a matter because trying to destroy an entire culture is in
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  and of itself abuse. Albert Nada Retro gave us five dollars Canadian and said,
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  look up, Lieutenant Governor John Graves Simcoe, if you want to learn
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  about the end of slavery in Canada. Upper Canada is Ontario, Lowers Quebec.
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  I want to make sure I haven't missed any further. I haven't missed
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  any further rumble rants it just for a minute, I was on a different
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  tab and then I forgot to close the tabs, So better do that really
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  quick. There we go, sorry about that. So this was this was
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  something like we hear a lot about what the United States did to Native Americans.
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  Canada was similar. It had different pathway, but similar in terms of
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  erasing the culture. And when we hear about the genocide of Native Americans,
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  a lot of that involved war, actual battles and people getting killed in battle,
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  and a lot of it also involved intermarriage, so there was not so
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  much a prevention of continued reproduction of Native Americans. But if you integrate the
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  two populations together, you get less and less of what people would consider to
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  be purely Native American as opposed to white people with Native American heritage. And
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  a lot of a lot of people in the United States are like me.
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  They have like enough to say, well, yeah, there's some there's some
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  history in my family where there's Native American heritage, but not enough to be
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  like a member of a tribe or you know, any any kind of I
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  have some. I've learned some about the culture of the tribes that are in
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  my family history, but it wasn't stuff that was handed down in my family,
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  aside from three Sister soup, which wasn't called three sister soup when I
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  learned how to make it, and probably wasn't the original recipe either. So
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  food gets handed down better than everything else, I guess. But so as
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  all this is going on, there is still the East India companies and voting
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  in the UNS didn't change a whole lot until after the American Civil War,
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  and then a whole bunch of shit happened. You have the Civil war two
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  years two months long. In the middle of the Civil War, you have
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  the Emancipation Proclamation January first, eighteen sixty three, as the nation approached the
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  third year. And of course, the proclamation declared that all persons held as
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  slaves within the Rebellious States are henceforth are and henceforthward shall be free. What
• 1:42:42
  people don't necessarily realize about this was that this was a strategic attack on the
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  South. You end slavery in the South in the middle of the war.
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  It was intended to cripple their operations because you the slaves could just leave,
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  and they did so many of them formed brigades and fought on the Union side.
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  So as a result of that, and then we're gonna get to it,
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  we have the fifteenth Amendment. Right before the fifteenth Amendment, we have
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  the fourteenth Amendment, which defined citizenship, granted citizenship to former slaves, also
• 1:43:31
  established due process and equal protection under the law. And that was June sixteenth,
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  eighteen sixty six. Believe that's when it was ratified. Double check here,
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  Yeah, make sure I've got the date right, because yeah, June
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  sixteenth, Okay, that's not the right date. From According to this though,
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  there we go. On June sixteenth, eighteen sixty six, the House
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  Joint Resolution proposed proposing the fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution was submitted to the States,
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  So that's when it was submitted to the States, and then it was
• 1:44:16
  ratified on July ninth, eighteen sixty eight. So you have had the right
• 1:44:23
  to do process since then. And then we have two acts in Canada.
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  The British North American Act. This is when Canada became a country. Canada
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  is formed with only men who are twenty one years of age or older and
• 1:44:54
  who own property been able to vote in federal elections. People are excluded from
• 1:45:00
  voting provincially also cannot vote federally. So there's the voting rights there. And
• 1:45:09
  then we have they've actually passed a law post election confederation and men over at
• 1:45:18
  the age of twenty one who meet property property qualifications can vote. Oh no,
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  it wasn't that they passed the law. It was the first election after
• 1:45:30
  the confederation, so they had the first election shortly thereafter, and right after
• 1:45:35
  that we have the fifteenth Amendment. So one of the things that I want
• 1:45:41
  to talk about with regard to the fifteenth Amendment, and we will start with
• 1:45:46
  that. In the next episode was how the suffragettes reacted to advocacy for it.
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  Did I knock you out, Lauren? I think I did. I
• 1:46:05
  think I got her sleeping because of the dryness of the little bit of history
• 1:46:10
  in between. But so I'm probably gonna call it here because it's almost nine
• 1:46:15
  o'clock, but I will point out so it took after the end of the
• 1:46:23
  Civil War. Right, civil War ends April ninth, eighteen sixty five.
• 1:46:30
  Former slaves get their citizenship eighteen sixty six, and then it's eighteen sixty nine
• 1:46:41
  when they get their voting rights. The right to vote is guaranteed to all
• 1:46:46
  men, regardless of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. So
• 1:46:50
  what ends up happening, though, is it doesn't actually give all men the
• 1:46:57
  right to vote. And while it's in debate, we have the suffragettes going
• 1:47:04
  ballistic. They didn't like it, they didn't want it passed. They were
• 1:47:10
  mad that it was going to get passed before women got their voting rights,
• 1:47:13
  and they protested against it. They argued against it. So there's some things
• 1:47:17
  that we will discuss about the suffragettes in the United States and in the UK
• 1:47:25
  next week and we'll get more into the fifteenth Amendment, and then also next
• 1:47:33
  week we will be looking at from the fifteenth Amendment on. You can see
• 1:47:40
  there were a whole bunch of different things passed that limited people's right to vote.
• 1:47:51
  And actually when they updated this, it looks like they duplicated some of
• 1:47:56
  my things, because I can I just saw some. I'm got to go
• 1:47:59
  back and make sure this isn't screwed up. I got notices this morning that
• 1:48:02
  this site that I've got my timeline on has been through some sort of update
• 1:48:10
  as well, and some of the stuff on it doesn't look right now,
• 1:48:14
  so I'll have to go back and double check and make sure everything is the
• 1:48:16
  way it's supposed to be. But but this is basically what was going on,
• 1:48:23
  and I think there may be some things I need to add from Australia
• 1:48:26
  as well, and possibly some more things that took place in Ireland. But
• 1:48:32
  as you can see looking ahead here, there are several different things that took
• 1:48:38
  place in the US court cases, laws and so on. Those are all
• 1:48:46
  things that affected the right of suffrage in the US. Yeah, yeah,
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  oh I see, Oh I see. And WIWI says that feeling and data
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  is destroyed by a back end engineers. And yeah, that's that's kind of
• 1:49:04
  the case. It's not gone, it's just out of place. It doesn't
• 1:49:09
  look like it's in the right spot. And I think something I read off
• 1:49:11
  tonight might have been in the wrong spot as well. So because I see
• 1:49:14
  the duplicate of it, I suspect that it is an earlier version of it.
• 1:49:20
  Where I had the I had accidentally copy pasted the wrong date, and
• 1:49:27
  so I put it in the wrong spot and I deleted that one, and
• 1:49:30
  it's back because the correct one appears to be up here. But I might
• 1:49:44
  be wrong about that the Gradual Enfranchisement Act. So all right, in any
• 1:49:47
  case, we'll go We'll go through more of that next week. Let me
• 1:49:54
  see if I do have any further chat. Did I read I think I
• 1:50:03
  read this one, But Albert Nada retro gave us five dollars Canadian and said,
• 1:50:06
  look up, Lieutenant Governor John Graves Simcoe, if you want to learn
• 1:50:10
  about the end of slavery in Canada. Upper Canada is Ontario, lower is
• 1:50:14
  Quebec. I think I did, because one of the few things I know
• 1:50:18
  how to pronounce connect correctly is Quebec. Because I got corrected on that a
• 1:50:23
  bunch of times. Let's see. Yeah, oh I see and WOWI says
• 1:50:29
  when the development team goes, you don't understand we need to move the button
• 1:50:31
  by two pixels to improve our ad performance. That's probably true. I don't
• 1:50:36
  begrudge them money. This is quite a thing to be able to use.
• 1:50:41
  It's a very nice tool to have. So if you want to make something
• 1:50:46
  like this like now, I had to get the professional level to make a
• 1:50:50
  timeline this big and keep it keep it from being editable by other people while
• 1:50:58
  I'm working on it. But this this time Graphics, Time dot graphics is
• 1:51:04
  the The basic web address is probably time dot graphics dot com. It might
• 1:51:13
  be a dot org, but I don't have that as the Let me look
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  here. Let's see if I can go to the their main page. Since
• 1:51:23
  I'm using this tool for my show a lot, I probably ought to at
• 1:51:28
  least give them, you know, they don't pay us or anything. But
• 1:51:31
  yeah, and and it is like a lot of things that are free online.
• 1:51:34
  It's free asterisk, so there are neat things you can do with it.
• 1:51:40
  There are limitations to the free level, and I decided it was worth
• 1:51:45
  it to me. To spend on the not free level, but not everybody's
• 1:51:50
  gonna want to do that. It's not it's not super cheap, but it's
• 1:51:57
  useful and so and I'll when I get done with this, I'll be able
• 1:52:00
  to download it and I'll have a copy that I can put that can create
• 1:52:06
  a page on the blog for it, so that we we actually have it
• 1:52:11
  preserved. And even if I stop using the paid version of this and the
• 1:52:16
  timeline becomes available for editing, you know, maybe other people might find it
• 1:52:20
  useful, maybe not, but we'll have the one that was created for HBr
• 1:52:28
  talk regardless. So and yet it's it's just graphics, but it's a it's
• 1:52:32
  a method of organizing them that takes a lot of the work out of out
• 1:52:38
  of my hands. I don't have. There's a lot of things I don't
• 1:52:41
  have to do because this automatically does it. That has made the process doable
• 1:52:48
  in my opinion. So but in any case, with that, and you
• 1:52:57
  know, people have asked before, you know, like what are they paying
• 1:53:00
  for? When? When? And when I get paid for doing this.
• 1:53:02
  There's other things like this that I've spent money on. I've I've spent money
• 1:53:05
  on video software to create my videos. I've bought occasionally some elements to use
• 1:53:15
  in in the videos and and so on. Yeah, it's it's Oh,
• 1:53:21
  the domain is dot graphics. Okay, Yeah. It doesn't even show in
• 1:53:27
  the web address on my computer in the in the address bar, so it's
• 1:53:31
  kind of weird, but it does show on the title. So yeah,
• 1:53:39
  I guess that is You're right, that is the I'm used to like dot
• 1:53:43
  com or dot org or dot something like dot graphics is different. But yeah,
• 1:53:48
  so this is this is the kind of thing that I'm able to do
• 1:53:53
  because I get paid to do Honey Badger Radio. So if you want to
• 1:54:00
  support the Badgers, and just a reminder, like at the beginning of the
• 1:54:03
  show, you want to go to feed the badger. Dot com is the
• 1:54:09
  most stable way we could have any other means of supporting us cut off for
• 1:54:15
  being politically incorrect, being wrong, think boogeyman. And it's not like it
• 1:54:23
  hasn't happened in the past where we've had suspensions or other things from from you
• 1:54:30
  know, different social media sites and stuff like that. And we've seen people
• 1:54:34
  deplatformed on Patreon and on PayPal and other sites like that. So for us,
• 1:54:45
  like we we created Feed the Badger specifically because we want to have a
• 1:54:49
  way to avoid having that happen to us. So if you want to support
• 1:54:55
  stuff like this, even though you know, like I said, this is
• 1:54:58
  a pretty dry sausage, but it's information that is kind of vital to understanding
• 1:55:04
  the history of suffrage. And as you look through as we've just discussed this,
• 1:55:11
  right, everything that happened in the timeline at this point, from the
• 1:55:16
  bloody French Revolution to the more dry changes that were taking place around it as
• 1:55:24
  a result after the bloody American Revolution, it's all stuff that was influenced by
• 1:55:32
  the understanding that elites could only govern with consent of the commoner, because the
• 1:55:40
  commoner could stand up and fight for their freedoms, their rights. So next
• 1:55:47
  week we'll get into changes to voting rights in the United States that took place
• 1:55:54
  around race, and there were also, you know, some other changes that
• 1:56:00
  took place around race after women's suffrage. Well, actually, before we do
• 1:56:08
  that, we will get into the racism of the suffragettes, because it's important
• 1:56:12
  to address this right. They we hear from from women that women didn't get
• 1:56:19
  their voting rights until men had universal voting rights. For all this all the
• 1:56:24
  time in the world. That's not true. We've demonstrated that that's not true.
• 1:56:30
  For most of voting history, less than six percent of the population had
• 1:56:34
  the right to vote, and for much of it that included women, right.
• 1:56:42
  So we'll we'll get more into that then. So the only other thing
• 1:56:46
  I will say is, I promised to tell you at the beginning. I
• 1:56:51
  promised to tell you at the end of the video what it was that I
• 1:56:56
  did to that I thought might set off hate listeners and our rumble. So
• 1:57:00
  I posted a tweet with a video in it about women's suffrage. It's formatted
• 1:57:09
  vertically, so if you're listening or watching on your phone currently in the moment,
• 1:57:15
  it is the I think it is the the top tweet of mine.
• 1:57:26
  I mean, let me look just to be sure, but I think I
• 1:57:30
  pinned it. And I'm not going to play it on YouTube because I'm not
• 1:57:36
  sure that the subject matter and the statements made will will not get us suspended.
• 1:57:47
  So I won't tell you anymore about it. You'll have to look,
• 1:57:55
  But yeah, it is. It is my penned tweet. So my Twitter
• 1:57:59
  handle is at Oniro's grip. It's O N E. I O R O
• 1:58:02
  S g R I P. If you want to see that. It's about
• 1:58:05
  a minute and a half a minute and three quarters long. And I said,
• 1:58:12
  tonight on HBr Talk, we'll discuss the evolution of suffrage in the US
• 1:58:15
  after the US Revolutionary War. The evolution of suffrage after the US Revolutionary War.
• 1:58:20
  There's no blog post tonight because word press is being temperamental. It's obviously
• 1:58:25
  female guys. I'm pretty sure it's on its period. But you can find
• 1:58:29
  us at and then I linked and in the meantime, here have an inflammatory
• 1:58:32
  video. So there you go. You can go find the inflammatory video and
• 1:58:36
  see what I said that I think YouTube wouldn't appreciate and I don't think it
• 1:58:45
  was appropriate for the platform or we would have used it. But in any
• 1:58:50
  case, with that, thanks to everybody for listening to the long dry sausage.
• 1:58:57
  Go check out the inflammatory short, the long short. And uh,
• 1:59:02
  I think I'm done with all the super chats, done with all the super
• 1:59:06
  chows, and done with all the rumble rants. So uh, thanks to
• 1:59:12
  learn although you probably are asleep and can't hear me, for for sticking out
• 1:59:16
  these this dry sausage with me. And thanks to everybody who works in the
• 1:59:19
  background and makes HBr talk happen, good idol, that one