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Gorgeous Colorado mom missing: Was her bike found UNDER a bridge? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: gorgeous young mom ostensibly goes on a bike ride. I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to confirm that bike ride ever happened? And then
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Speaker 1: mysteriously disappears. Where is Susanne? More few crime stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Fox Nation in
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Speaker 1: Serious X one eleven. The more news we hear, the
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Speaker 1: more questions I have. Did she ever go for a
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Speaker 1: bike ride? Why is her home she shares with her
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Speaker 1: husband cordened off? Why is family including her husband not
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Speaker 1: allowed back into the home. Is it true that a
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Speaker 1: cell phone and a car have been impounded? Also overnight
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Speaker 1: we find out about a mysterious sighting of a car.
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Speaker 1: Is it connected with me? An all star panel to
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Speaker 1: break it down and put it back together again? But
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Speaker 1: first I want you to hear Susanne Morphew's husband as
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Speaker 1: he finally breaks his silence. Listen, Oh Susanne, If anyone
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Speaker 1: is out there, I can hear this that has you.
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Speaker 1: Please WILL do whatever it takes to bring you back.
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Speaker 1: We love you, We miss you, Your girls and easy us.
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Speaker 1: No questions asked, however much they want, I will do
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Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get your backs. I love you.
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Speaker 1: That is the husband speaking, and he has certainly put
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Speaker 1: his money where his mouth is, putting up one hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars reward for information to recover his missing wife,
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Speaker 1: matched by another one hundred thousand, now a two hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars reward and climbing with me an all star panel.
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Speaker 1: James shell Nutt twenty seven years metro major case detective
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Speaker 1: swat now lawyer at shell Nutt Law Firm dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Bober, renowned forensic psychiatrists. You can find him
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Speaker 1: on Insta and doctor Daniel Bober, the director of the
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Speaker 1: Coal Case Research Institute. Crime scene expert Cheryl McCollum joining
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Speaker 1: me today. Long time now here, Susan Constantine, but boy,
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Speaker 1: it's great to have you with me. Body language expert.
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Speaker 1: She's an expert in deception and body language. I can't
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Speaker 1: wait to hear this because I've been looking at the
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Speaker 1: husband's statement over and over and over. Jack, you told
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Speaker 1: me it's twenty four seconds. I think it's more like
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Speaker 1: twenty one seconds. But I'm gonna retirement. Also with me.
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharf Fox twenty one, Colorado Springs News reporter and
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com investigative reporter Ellen Colauren. First to you,
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharf, tell me about Suzanne's hut. Let's start with
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Speaker 1: the very latest and then we'll backtrack to the actual
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Speaker 1: disappearance and trying to put together a timeline. Lauren Sharf,
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Speaker 1: Fox twenty one, Colorado. Is the home still cordoned off? Yes?
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Speaker 1: The Chiefe County Sheriff John Spazy, he said, this isn't
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Speaker 1: anything unusual in these types of investigations. They start at
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Speaker 1: the home and then extend outwards and to try to
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Speaker 1: find any type of clue surrounding her disappearance, and the
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Speaker 1: more feel residence is just one of many areas that
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Speaker 1: they're focusing on in this open investigation. And the sheriff
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Speaker 1: really emphasized that is still characterized as a missing person
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Speaker 1: case and that they have a search warrant for the home,
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Speaker 1: but it is sealed by the court. Interesting, right there,
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Speaker 1: the search warrant still sealed. You know, I think probably
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Speaker 1: the reason for that, James shell Nutt twenty seven years
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Speaker 1: Metro Major k swat Now lawyer, is because on a
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Speaker 1: search warrant very often, and we've seen the video of
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Speaker 1: bags of evidence being carried out in that home, you
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Speaker 1: have to attach the quote return the return. In other words,
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Speaker 1: what you get on the search warrant. I think that
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Speaker 1: is what they're keeping a secret, because a search warrant
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Speaker 1: can be vague ish as long as it comports with
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Speaker 1: the law. We're looking for anything related to the disappearance
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Speaker 1: of Suzanne Murphy. It could say that like fingerprints, disheveled home,
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Speaker 1: suggestion of an altercation. But what they take out of
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Speaker 1: the home shall not has to be written on a
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Speaker 1: return explain. Yeah, absolutely so someone the judge issues a
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Speaker 1: search warrant. You know, you apply for the warrant, but
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Speaker 1: you also have to let the judge know what you
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Speaker 1: took out of that house, and you have to leave
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Speaker 1: a copy of that inventory with the person in possession
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Speaker 1: or control of the house or inside the house, and
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Speaker 1: it lists the items that we're taken out. That actually
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Speaker 1: begins what is the initial chain of custody on the
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Speaker 1: items and what they took out of that house. They're
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Speaker 1: going to be pieces of what they think our evidence
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Speaker 1: or could be substantial evidence in this case. I'm thinking,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm think I'm Cheryl m a column director
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Speaker 1: Goal Case Research Institute. Cheryl on the return Okay, which
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Speaker 1: has to be filled out under the law. And when
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Speaker 1: Shelman is saying you have to go to a judge,
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Speaker 1: he's saying the cop, the detective has to go to
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Speaker 1: the judge or the district attorney. But it's not there yet.
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Speaker 1: This will be a cop going to the judge saying
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Speaker 1: I need to get in the home in search. Now
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Speaker 1: we heard a reporter, Lauren Sharf, state that the sheriff
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Speaker 1: says this is sp standard operating procedure. I'm curious because
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Speaker 1: once you look in the home, you typically release it
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Speaker 1: to the inhabitants. That has not been done. Hey, Lauren,
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Speaker 1: very quickly, Lauren Sharff, how long has the home been
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Speaker 1: cordoned off? How many days? I believe the sheriff told
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Speaker 1: us it's from the beginning. WHOA, when we go ahead, dear,
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Speaker 1: jump in. When we had our crews going down there,
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Speaker 1: they couldn't even get anywhere near the home. This is,
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Speaker 1: you know, a week the first week. But I do
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Speaker 1: want to remember tell people that there were no targeted
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Speaker 1: searches that we know of this week. Okay, I'm getting
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Speaker 1: back to the hume. So you say it's been several
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Speaker 1: days at least. Laurence Sharf absolutely Okay, Cheryl McCollum. That
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Speaker 1: gives me some information. That gives me information that police
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Speaker 1: have been in the home for some time and they're
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Speaker 1: still not releasing it. You know what that means. I
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Speaker 1: know what that means. Let it rap, Cheryl Nancy. If
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Speaker 1: I have a crme scene that I've coordin off for
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Speaker 1: eleven days, I have found something substantial. And what I
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Speaker 1: want to do is, I'm going to use luminos. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to recreate what I think I have found. I'm
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Speaker 1: doing I'm putting strings up, I'm doing day and night photography.
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Speaker 1: I am listing everything and again, I'm going to use
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Speaker 1: a three sixty camera. I'm going to do everything I
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Speaker 1: can to show what I believe occurred in that house.
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Speaker 1: This is long path collective evidence. This is recreating a
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Speaker 1: crum scene way past. Now here's the thing. Let me
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Speaker 1: go to you, Ellen Lauren with me Crime online dot
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Speaker 1: com investigative reporter. You can find her every day with
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Speaker 1: Breaking Crime and Justice music Crime Online. Ellen. There are
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Speaker 1: videos and photos I don't know how they got them
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Speaker 1: of law enforcement going in and out of the house,
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Speaker 1: coming out with bags. What do we know about how
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Speaker 1: many bags, what time of the day or night those
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Speaker 1: searches were what can you tell me, what do you
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Speaker 1: know about the search in the home? That's right, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday we saw photos that were reportedly taken at or
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Speaker 1: very close to the property of Susan Morphy's home. We
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Speaker 1: see a photo of investigators who appear to be carrying
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Speaker 1: evidence bags. We saw a photo of a crime scene
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Speaker 1: investigation band, but we don't know exactly when those photos
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Speaker 1: were taken. There was a lot of back and forth
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Speaker 1: about in the last couple of days about whether or
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Speaker 1: not authorities were doing an active search of Suzanne's home.
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Speaker 1: Last evening, in response to all of these questions, they
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Speaker 1: released a statement confirming that they have a sealed search
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Speaker 1: warrant connected to the home, and the statement indicated that
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Speaker 1: that warrant happened very early in the investigation. My understanding,
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Speaker 1: based on everything that we're we've been able to put together,
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Speaker 1: my understanding is this happened at the start of the
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Speaker 1: investigation and the family has not been allowed into the home.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace by to Lauren Sharf ellen
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Speaker 1: Co Lauren also with me Crime online dot Com Lauren
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Speaker 1: shar Fox twenty one Colorado spraying knees Reporter Lauren when
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've covered a lot of crime scenes.
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Speaker 1: Typically and jump in shell Nutt and McCollum. Cops go in,
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Speaker 1: they look around, they look for a struggle. They look
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Speaker 1: to see if a windows broken. Guys, we are talking
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Speaker 1: about the disappearance of a young mom of two girls,
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Speaker 1: Suzanne Morphew, And seemingly the facts get more murky the
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Speaker 1: more we look at them. Laurence Sharff with me, Fox
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Speaker 1: twenty one News. Typically, you go when you look for
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Speaker 1: a struggle, You look for fingerprints at the door, You
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Speaker 1: look for forced entry. You look for a blood. If
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Speaker 1: you don't see any of that, it's either not a
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Speaker 1: crime scene, or you bring in the scientists with luminol
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Speaker 1: to look for practically invisible blood or evidence of a cleanup.
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Speaker 1: You look for fibers, You look what else would you
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Speaker 1: look for, Cheryl McCollum, Nancy Again, You're gonna look for
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Speaker 1: things like what did she sleep in, if she had
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Speaker 1: a favorite pajamas, where are they did she have certain
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Speaker 1: shoes that she rode that bike in, or the shoes
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Speaker 1: in the closets? Who ate? Are their wine glasses out
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Speaker 1: or their knives out? Anything that could paint a picture
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Speaker 1: of what she did and when she didn't. Again, it's
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Speaker 1: an odd day that she would be all by herself
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Speaker 1: on Mother's Day, Schryl will Colin, I have not even
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Speaker 1: gotten to Mother's Day yet. You are so right. You know,
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Speaker 1: my twins asking me what I want for Mother's Day
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Speaker 1: set a pair of white athletic socks and some of
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Speaker 1: the nilation I got both been Lucy Mamian giant cake.
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Speaker 1: I mean. But to Lauren Sharf, Lauren, the girls, her
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Speaker 1: two daughters are grown now. They were away on Mother's
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Speaker 1: Day for uh was at a hike? Where were they?
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Speaker 1: The sheriff has not told us exactly you know where
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Speaker 1: the family was on that day. But I do want
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Speaker 1: to point out that during his press conference, he started
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Speaker 1: out saying, you know, as many of you know, Susanne
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Speaker 1: Murphy disappeared on and then he paused and said became
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Speaker 1: a missing person on May tenth. So wow, my, yeah,
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Speaker 1: So that you're smart, Lauren Sharf, that's smart. Reportedly, and
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Speaker 1: all the press conferences that keeps saying reportedly missing on
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Speaker 1: Mother's Day or reportedly missing on May tenth, well, that
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Speaker 1: tells me we don't even have a timeline. Now, let's
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Speaker 1: look at that really quickly. To you, Lauren Sharff, when
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Speaker 1: did the girls go on their trip. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it was a hiking trip. That's just a report
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Speaker 1: they were away. When did they leave? Like I said,
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. Do they live in the do
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Speaker 1: they live there? The sheriff has not said anything. We
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Speaker 1: haven't heard about that at all. Alrighty, what can you
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Speaker 1: tell me about the husband's voluntary firefighter class that he
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Speaker 1: was taking one hundred and fifty miles away in Denver
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Speaker 1: on Mother's Day? Has that been researched? Is that real?
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Speaker 1: The only thing that the sheriff talked about in regards
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Speaker 1: to Barry Morphew, Suzanne's husband, is that he's been cooperating
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Speaker 1: at this point, and we hope he continues to do so.
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Speaker 1: That's all we have heard from the sheriff. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: has he taken a polygraph that I do not know? Curious,
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Speaker 1: very curious. Indeed, everybody take a listen to our friends
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Speaker 1: at CBS for Denver. And she went biking on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: They're in the mountains about twenty miles west of Salida,
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Speaker 1: Trevor and and then there was nothing from her. Tell
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Speaker 1: us what you do know, Alan, I'm I'm willing to
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Speaker 1: confirm that the bike was found on Sunday evening. The
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Speaker 1: bike was found on sund Sunday evening, the night that
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Speaker 1: she disappeared. And for more information on the bike for
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Speaker 1: its conditions, I would encourage you and everyone else to
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Speaker 1: contact the Chiefey County Sheriff's department. Yeah, it has to
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Speaker 1: be disconcerting to know the bike has found. Sheriff has
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Speaker 1: said he does not believe that this was an animal,
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Speaker 1: and so all of Colorado has really ought to be
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Speaker 1: aware that there is a potential, Den Trevor, that she
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Speaker 1: might be somewhere well out of the county for all
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Speaker 1: we know, which is why we need to make sure
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Speaker 1: that we're aware of the situation. Okay, even more curious, now,
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Ellen Colorin, the more I hear,
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Speaker 1: the more questions I have. You know, it's not like
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Speaker 1: a Q and A or a cross or a direct
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Speaker 1: exam in court. I'm like, what day did she go missing? Well,
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Speaker 1: guess what, we thought it was Mother's Day, but maybe
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Speaker 1: it's not. We thought she went biking. But Ellen Colaurin,
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Speaker 1: do we know I know they brought out tracker dogs,
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Speaker 1: but apparently the tracker dogs didn't tell me anything. So
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Speaker 1: was she ever even on a bike? Ellen, I understand
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Speaker 1: you've got some news. What is it? Yeah, Like you said, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: the further we get along in this, the murkier it gets.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to quickly comment on these rumors, and
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Speaker 1: they are only rumors at this point, Like Lauren said,
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Speaker 1: police are not confirming really much of anything, but there
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Speaker 1: is evidence. There's social media evidence from one of the
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Speaker 1: daughter's instagram a concert that indicates they were in Idaho
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Speaker 1: that weekend, and that lines up with some rumors. Nothing
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Speaker 1: confirmed on social media that the girls had gone on
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Speaker 1: a camping trip that weekend. Okay, yes, you're right, Ellen,
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Ellen Colauren, I read that they were hiking.
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Speaker 1: It was camping, that's what they were doing. And the
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Speaker 1: daughters have made some statement that seems to back up
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Speaker 1: the comment on social media. Yes, that's where Idaho. And
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Speaker 1: speaking of location, location, location, this is important. We were
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Speaker 1: wondering where the bike was discovered and the way that
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Speaker 1: the nephew talks about it. Just tell me where was
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Speaker 1: the by was it run over or was it what?
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Speaker 1: At well, was it tied to a tree? It could
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Speaker 1: be anything, But he's so mysterious about the bike. Oh,
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Speaker 1: you'll have to ask police about the bike. Why? Why?
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Speaker 1: What's unusual about the bike to you? Lauren Sharffe joining
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Speaker 1: me from Fox twenty one, Colorado Springs. I understand now
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Speaker 1: the bike was found from a bridge close to Suzanne's home.
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Speaker 1: Do you know where the bike was found? What bridge? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: The sheriff's office has not commented as to the evidence
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Speaker 1: that they have. They haven't said where the bike was located,
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Speaker 1: even if they've confirmed that the bike has been recovered.
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Speaker 1: When I spoke with the nephew, Trevor Noel, he just said,
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Speaker 1: you know, asked the sheriff's office for more details, and
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Speaker 1: they keep saying because it's an open investigation, they can't disclose.
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Speaker 1: What about the bridge? We're now learning the bike was
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Speaker 1: recovered from a bridge. Is there a bridge close to
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Speaker 1: the home, Lauren? The sheriff's office has not confirmed them. Okay,
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Speaker 1: do you know you're Ellen? All I'm asking is is
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Speaker 1: there a bridge close to the home. That's all I
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Speaker 1: want to know, not does the sheriff say there's a bridge?
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Speaker 1: Is there a bridge? Do we know, we don't know
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Speaker 1: if there's a bridge knows that. A source told the
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Speaker 1: Daily Mail yesterday that the bike was found on a
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Speaker 1: bridge very close to her home, but again not source
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Speaker 1: didn't say anything about the condition of the bike, and
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Speaker 1: up until that point only the nephew has commented about
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Speaker 1: the bike at all. Police confirmed that a personal item
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Speaker 1: was found in the search, but they did not say
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Speaker 1: what it was. I heard you very distinctly say, Alan Colauran,
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Speaker 1: the bike was quote on the bridge. That's what you said.
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Speaker 1: But is that what the person said or did you paraphrase?
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Speaker 1: The source told Daily Email that the bike was found
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Speaker 1: on the briefs that's my understanding. I recovered from a bridge.
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Speaker 1: And see that's significant. You know why that significant, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Daniel Bober, you're the forensic site because if the bike
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Speaker 1: is on the bridge, oh my goodness, Bober, they were
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Speaker 1: searching bodies of water. Is a bridge over water? Are
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Speaker 1: they suggesting she jumped off a bridge or was the
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Speaker 1: bike found under the bridge? With that tell me why
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Speaker 1: they're searching water, doctor Daniel Bober. The slightest detail can
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Speaker 1: change the course of an investigation. But I don't have
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Speaker 1: any reason to think this mom went and jumped off
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Speaker 1: the side of a bridge. But explain the details why
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Speaker 1: they are so important in a case like this. But
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Speaker 1: exactly you said, Nancy, you know if the bike was
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Speaker 1: on the bridge versus under the bridge. You know, if
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Speaker 1: it's on top of the bridge, then you might think
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Speaker 1: about a suicide. If it's under the bridge, you might
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Speaker 1: think about a kidnapping. So the slightest details can obviously
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Speaker 1: the course of the investigation, Doctor Bobara. If a bike
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Speaker 1: was under the bridge, I would not think of a kidnapping.
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Speaker 1: Well maybe a kidnapping. I would think someone had killed
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Speaker 1: her and hid her bike, or maybe stage the bike
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Speaker 1: to look like she was out for a bike ride.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about
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Speaker 1: missing mom, Susan Morphew. A lot of confusion, and the
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Speaker 1: reason is the police, the sheriffs are not releasing information.
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Speaker 1: They don't owe us a dime, They don't need to
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Speaker 1: release information. This is an ongoing investigation. But the question
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Speaker 1: remains what happened to Susan. More few I want you
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Speaker 1: to now take a listen to CBS four Denver. The
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Speaker 1: hardest thing. She's a beloved member of her family and
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Speaker 1: the sweetest person that you've ever met. The nephew of
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Speaker 1: forty nine year old Susanne Moore few talking about what
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Speaker 1: it's like to go through the difficulty of a search
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Speaker 1: that started after she went missing during a Sunday bike.
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Speaker 1: Ry family has said her husband Barry, was out of
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Speaker 1: town in Denver. A friend called authorities when more few
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Speaker 1: didn't return. The bike was found on Sunday, the day
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Speaker 1: as she would missing. The sheriff has not yet shared
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Speaker 1: information on the bike, but has told CBS for the
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Speaker 1: reason for her disappearances probably not animals. Extensive searching in
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Speaker 1: Chaffee County, about twenty miles west of Salida, has not
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Speaker 1: brought an answer on what happened to Morephew, Back to
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Speaker 1: the bike. Back to the nephew speaking Laura Sharf, I
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Speaker 1: understand that when the husband was asked was he ready
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Speaker 1: to make a public plea, he said it's too soon,
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Speaker 1: and therefore the nephew was doing all the talking. Is
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Speaker 1: that correct, Laurence Sharp. Yeah, when we were to ask,
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Speaker 1: you know, the family, if we could talk to the
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Speaker 1: husband or to them, the nephew was kind of their spokeperson.
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Speaker 1: And this week he's kind of been dark. He hasn't
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Speaker 1: returned our emails that we sent him for a comment,
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Speaker 1: and that's why I reached out to the husband's uncle,
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Speaker 1: right right, I want to go now to special guests
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Speaker 1: joining us. Susan Constantine, you can find your online body
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Speaker 1: language expert, deception expert. The only thing that concerned me,
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Speaker 1: Susan Constantine, is that the husband, who is not a
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Speaker 1: person of interest, who is not a suspect, took so
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Speaker 1: long to come out in the search for his wife,
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Speaker 1: and when he did come out, a issued about a
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Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty five second long play. And I mean,
23:07
Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer, right, you're the expert. But
23:10
Speaker 1: I noticed the whole time he was speaking, he was
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Speaker 1: shaking his head no, like we miss you so much,
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Speaker 1: we love you so much. That concerned me, But that
23:21
Speaker 1: could be an innocent mannerism. Way in, Susan Constantine, I
23:24
Speaker 1: know you've studied this very carefully. Yes, I did, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: And the first thing that I noticed, because of the
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Speaker 1: amount of time that he spoke, is purposeful. So for example,
23:35
Speaker 1: when people don't want to expand is there's a reason
23:39
Speaker 1: behind it, they tend to be very vague. Get to
23:41
Speaker 1: the point in that set. So what I'm noticing is
23:43
Speaker 1: that he's shaking his head no, which is often attached
23:47
Speaker 1: to disbelief, but it continues on. Now Here's where I
23:51
Speaker 1: follow It was a little bit odd is that there
23:54
Speaker 1: was no emphasis with his eyebrows like we miss you,
23:57
Speaker 1: I love you, we're looking for you, and it stays
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Speaker 1: frozen with his headshaking no throughout. So when I'm putting
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Speaker 1: all the pieces together, really causes me to have pause. Okay, Keeves,
24:10
Speaker 1: find what you just said one more time. What did
24:12
Speaker 1: you say about the eyebrows? Okay, So when you meet someone,
24:15
Speaker 1: are you talking to someone, when you're making a point,
24:18
Speaker 1: you will raise your eyebrows like think about an eyebrows flashlight,
24:21
Speaker 1: I miss you or thinking about you, you have a
24:25
Speaker 1: raise of your eyebrows. So it's not a frozen expression.
24:29
Speaker 1: Frozen is more staged expressions fleet across your face when
24:35
Speaker 1: you're talking, So especially eyebrows are used as an emphasizer
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Speaker 1: we love you, we miss you, we're looking for you.
24:42
Speaker 1: You know, you would see a quick movement of the eyebrows,
24:45
Speaker 1: but the eyebrows stay very static throughout. And that's the
24:49
Speaker 1: part that gives me a pause because it appears to
24:52
Speaker 1: be staged. Cheryl mccolem, did you hear that. I've heard
24:56
Speaker 1: that Nancy, and I'd like to pay you back of
24:58
Speaker 1: what she's said. Words are very important to me. And
25:02
Speaker 1: he is saying things like the girls need you, you
25:06
Speaker 1: don't need her. And the other thing is he's quick
25:10
Speaker 1: to say things like whatever it takes, I will pay
25:14
Speaker 1: whatever they want. He keeps talking about money. Nobody has
25:18
Speaker 1: ransomed her names. He ain't got a letter from anybody,
25:22
Speaker 1: nobody's asked him for any money, but he's quick to
25:25
Speaker 1: put up one hundred thousand dollars. It seems to me
25:28
Speaker 1: like it's all for show. I'm trying to just soak
25:31
Speaker 1: in what you just said. Again, husband, not a person
25:34
Speaker 1: of interest, not a suspect, Lauren a Sharp joining me
25:37
Speaker 1: Fox twenty one. Okay this is yes. No. Is there
25:43
Speaker 1: a bridge near her home? I do not know. Okay,
25:48
Speaker 1: do you know of a reservoir near her home? A
25:51
Speaker 1: body of water? Yeah, there is a body of water
25:54
Speaker 1: and the Publo dive team searched it on Sunday. What reservoir?
25:59
Speaker 1: Is there an aim to that reservoir? Not that I
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Speaker 1: know of. I've seen the photos of the search in
26:07
Speaker 1: the reservoir, and there is one I can't really tell,
26:13
Speaker 1: maybe seventeen to nineteen miles away from the home. Do
26:20
Speaker 1: you know about how far the reservoir is from the home,
26:23
Speaker 1: Laurence Sharff, I do not. I'm curious because Cheryl McCollum,
26:29
Speaker 1: the bike is found. We've been told near a bridge
26:34
Speaker 1: on the bridge under the bridge as you're getting crossing
26:37
Speaker 1: the bridge, is it stopped right there? That tells me,
26:41
Speaker 1: would tell me a lot if I need the answer.
26:43
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to figure out is that bridge near
26:47
Speaker 1: the reservoir? And the reason I'm asking because if it is,
26:53
Speaker 1: what would that tell you They're searching this body of
26:55
Speaker 1: water and that's where the bike's found. Absolutely, and I
26:58
Speaker 1: agree with you, Nancy, I want to know the can
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Speaker 1: edition of the bike. You know, was it damaged anyway?
27:03
Speaker 1: That dirty? Was the kickstand used? Was it laying on
27:06
Speaker 1: the ground, was it staged? All of these things are
27:10
Speaker 1: gonna you know, again, paying a picture of what happened
27:15
Speaker 1: to this poor woman. Back to Lauren shar Fox twenty one,
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Speaker 1: Colorado Springs. What can you tell me about the husband
27:21
Speaker 1: being in Denver at the time Suzanne goes missing? How
27:26
Speaker 1: long had he been there? Was he there for a
27:28
Speaker 1: volunteer firefighter class of some sort. The Sheriff's office have
27:32
Speaker 1: not commented on that at all, has as anyone learned
27:37
Speaker 1: the answer to that without the sheriff telling us, not
27:40
Speaker 1: that I know of What more can you tell me
27:43
Speaker 1: about the case. Lauren Sharff life spoke with an uncle
27:47
Speaker 1: and he's the husband's uncle, and you know he's he
27:51
Speaker 1: lives in Indiana, that's where the couple's originally from. And
27:55
Speaker 1: he said he even though he hasn't spent the last
27:58
Speaker 1: few years seeing them in Colorado since they've moved, he
28:02
Speaker 1: believes the husband had absolutely nothing to do with her
28:06
Speaker 1: disappearance at Lauren Sharf is absolutely correct. Take a listen
28:10
Speaker 1: to Lauren speaking to Bob Morphew. This is the uncle
28:15
Speaker 1: of Barry Morphew. I've never seen any kind of the
28:20
Speaker 1: unhappiness with each other produced me, either one of them.
28:26
Speaker 1: So his message to those pointing the finger at Barry,
28:31
Speaker 1: I think they can bury the game. So the Morphew
28:35
Speaker 1: say they desperately want Suzanne to safely return home. We're
28:39
Speaker 1: all terrified about this and no place to find any risk.
28:44
Speaker 1: But like I said, everybody loves She's ain't Barry, and
28:48
Speaker 1: we know what they're going through, and it's turn on
28:52
Speaker 1: our hearts too, because we don't know. We're looking for answers.
28:55
Speaker 1: We've pulled up a map of the location, Shackie. What's
28:58
Speaker 1: the name of the river? The river? South? What our
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Speaker 1: South Arkansas River? And how far is that? I don't know,
29:03
Speaker 1: you guys. The closest body of water we see is
29:07
Speaker 1: the South Arkansas River. I'm curious also about the impound
29:22
Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. We're talking about the disappearance
29:27
Speaker 1: of a young mom, Suzanne more Few. Her two daughters
29:31
Speaker 1: are out camping, we believe in Idaho, and we are
29:35
Speaker 1: told that on Mother's Day, the husband goes to We've
29:40
Speaker 1: been told a volunteer firefighters class in Denver, about one
29:45
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles away. It's about three hours. Was
29:49
Speaker 1: she ever on a bike? Laurence Sharf Fox twenty one,
29:52
Speaker 1: Colorado Springs. Is the husband's car impounded? Did cops look
29:59
Speaker 1: at it and an investigation? Yes? But the sheriff's office
30:02
Speaker 1: has not told us they're confirmed that. Okay, do you
30:06
Speaker 1: know or have reason to believe they still have the car?
30:09
Speaker 1: I do not know. To you Ellen Clauren. What do
30:12
Speaker 1: we know about the car and any cell phone impound?
30:16
Speaker 1: Nancy as Lauren said, police have not confirmed anything, but yes,
30:19
Speaker 1: there have been unconfirmed reports, unconfirmed reports circulating that that
30:26
Speaker 1: a white jeep or suv or some sort of a
30:29
Speaker 1: vehicle like that was has been taken by police, along
30:34
Speaker 1: with the cell phone that may belong to Barrymorephew, there
30:38
Speaker 1: are unconfirmed reports that he has not had his cell
30:41
Speaker 1: phone since the very beginning of this. Well, again, that
30:45
Speaker 1: does not make him a person of interest or suspect.
30:48
Speaker 1: You would expect that to be done pronto. Joining me,
30:51
Speaker 1: Doctor Daniel Bober, Forensic psychiatrists on Insta Doctor Daniel Bober,
30:56
Speaker 1: Doctor Bober, I know you heard Susan Constantine, body language
30:59
Speaker 1: expert or analyze the husband's movements, facial expressions and words.
31:05
Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Bober? Yeah, I mean
31:08
Speaker 1: it seems a little superficial on the surface, and I
31:11
Speaker 1: was actually more interested about again the words that he
31:14
Speaker 1: used and the way that he really didn't reference her.
31:17
Speaker 1: He referenced the kids, So it could be something. I
31:20
Speaker 1: think it's pretty fascinating. Yeah, I think it's way too
31:24
Speaker 1: soon to call anything on his statement. Again. We learned
31:29
Speaker 1: that daughter's Mallory and Macy first Racy alarm when they
31:32
Speaker 1: couldn't get ahold of their mom on Mother's Day, when
31:35
Speaker 1: they kept trying her and couldn't reach her. And I'd
31:38
Speaker 1: be curious to find out when they started trying her.
31:41
Speaker 1: I'm also curious about the last time outside the family
31:45
Speaker 1: she was seeing alive. They call a neighbor. The neighbor
31:51
Speaker 1: is the one that tries to reach her and calls
31:54
Speaker 1: nine one one. I'm very curious about the dog search,
32:00
Speaker 1: Laurence Sharf, Do we have any idea if the dogs
32:05
Speaker 1: could track Susanne morpheus scent? Do we know where the
32:09
Speaker 1: dogs went where they spotted by media? Yeah, so those
32:12
Speaker 1: dogs searches when that was happening early on in the investigation,
32:17
Speaker 1: they didn't want anyone searching, like no volunteers they were.
32:22
Speaker 1: They did not want any volunteers. But as far as
32:25
Speaker 1: where they were searching, it was just around County Road
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Speaker 1: two twenty five and west of Highway fifty. Interesting because
32:33
Speaker 1: you remember Cheryl McCollum. When Lacy Peterson went missing, tracker
32:38
Speaker 1: dogs followed her scent from the home on Covina and
32:44
Speaker 1: Modesto all the way to San Francisco Bay. That's a
32:48
Speaker 1: long ride, forty five minutes. At least they followed all
32:51
Speaker 1: the way. But here, if the dogs did not pick
32:55
Speaker 1: up on a scent, that tells me she was never
32:58
Speaker 1: on that bike. We don't know what the personal item
33:01
Speaker 1: was belonging to her that sheriffs say they found. But
33:04
Speaker 1: way in on the dog search, Cheryl, Well, Nancy, you
33:07
Speaker 1: know I have a rule. You believe the dogs, and
33:11
Speaker 1: it is clear to me they are concentrating now on
33:14
Speaker 1: the home. One of the most powerful things to her
33:17
Speaker 1: today was the reporter when she said, there are no
33:20
Speaker 1: new searches, plants. Their focus is uber focused on that home.
33:28
Speaker 1: All of their evidence so far has been that home,
33:31
Speaker 1: except for the bicycle question too. This is an open
33:35
Speaker 1: question to anybody on the panel. Do we have any
33:39
Speaker 1: siding of her on Mother's Day out on her bike
33:46
Speaker 1: at all? Why do we even think she was on
33:49
Speaker 1: a bike. Where did that come from? Do we have
33:51
Speaker 1: an idea on that? Ellen Colaurin, of questions about that,
33:56
Speaker 1: they're as far as I know, no one saw her
34:01
Speaker 1: on her bike on Mother's Day. And a further that
34:04
Speaker 1: we get into this, the more it looks like we're
34:08
Speaker 1: not sure when the last time she was seen at all.
34:12
Speaker 1: It's I think it's notable that police have not released
34:16
Speaker 1: any kind of description of clothes that she was wearing
34:19
Speaker 1: or the bike. And when I asked the Sheriff's office,
34:24
Speaker 1: you know who last saw her, when did they last year?
34:28
Speaker 1: What was she wearing? They haven't said anything. They haven't
34:31
Speaker 1: told me. That's very significant, Ellen, Colauren and Lauren Sharp
34:36
Speaker 1: very significant And practically every missing person case I've ever covered,
34:43
Speaker 1: even if it's wrong, there's a description given of what
34:47
Speaker 1: the missing person was wearing. That's very perceptive, and you're
34:53
Speaker 1: right on because if that description had been given, cops
34:57
Speaker 1: would be looking for that in the home to confirment.
35:01
Speaker 1: So let me understand suddenly, Lauren or Allen, to either
35:04
Speaker 1: of you know anything about why the husband was in Denver,
35:09
Speaker 1: just jump in. There has been nothing confirmed from authorities
35:13
Speaker 1: about this again there but there are tons of unconfirmed
35:17
Speaker 1: reports in rumors circulating, and they have come down to
35:19
Speaker 1: two different things. The most popular unconfirmed report is that
35:24
Speaker 1: he went to some type of firefighter training. He is
35:29
Speaker 1: some kind of firefighter. It might be a volunteer firefighter,
35:32
Speaker 1: but I'm aware just in the last few hours that
35:36
Speaker 1: it does seem like a local reporter had tried to
35:40
Speaker 1: confirm that and has not been able to confirm that.
35:43
Speaker 1: There are other unconfirmed reports and rumors that he was
35:48
Speaker 1: at some type of a landscaping job, and we do
35:51
Speaker 1: know that he worked as a landscaper in Indiana and
35:57
Speaker 1: had some type of landscaping company. But again, authorities have
36:02
Speaker 1: said so little and they have not confirmative. Okay, can
36:06
Speaker 1: we just give a blanket statement to save everybody some
36:08
Speaker 1: breath that the Sheriff's not confirming anything. All right, understood?
36:14
Speaker 1: And I know you got to say that because these
36:17
Speaker 1: are just circulating. Hey, you don't pick, as you point
36:22
Speaker 1: it out laughingly, and you're right, Lauren Sharks. You don't
36:25
Speaker 1: pick a theory like you're, you know, voting from a
36:28
Speaker 1: sweet potato. It's not like that. You got to have evidence,
36:31
Speaker 1: so you're right. These are bits and pieces of information
36:36
Speaker 1: that have been leaked or hypothesized. Chary McCallum, I hear
36:39
Speaker 1: you jumping in, but I can tell you this much.
36:41
Speaker 1: I've been up till four o'clock the last two nights
36:43
Speaker 1: trying to find a Firefighter's Volunteer Firefighter convention or classes
36:50
Speaker 1: in Denver on Mother's Day, not just Mother's Day a Sunday,
36:56
Speaker 1: but where you'd have to leave early that day for
37:01
Speaker 1: a three hour trip to a hotel. Okay, go ahead,
37:04
Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum. I was just gonna say a quick internet search.
37:07
Speaker 1: There was no firefighter or volunteer firefighters class on the
37:12
Speaker 1: Colorado Government Firefighters site. The only class who listener made
37:17
Speaker 1: eighteen twentieth and make eighteen through saw those. I saw
37:22
Speaker 1: the very same thing you're talking about. And he reportedly
37:27
Speaker 1: was a volunteer fire fighter. So we've got the car
37:31
Speaker 1: possibly still an impound. We've got the cell phone taken,
37:35
Speaker 1: the cell phone being taken. It's not unusual, but I
37:38
Speaker 1: would amass. You could just do a data dump and
37:40
Speaker 1: get all the information shel not. How long would it take.
37:43
Speaker 1: I mean you go to Verizon or AT and T
37:45
Speaker 1: they transfer all your stuff in about ten minutes. Oh yeah, Well,
37:49
Speaker 1: LA law Enforcement has as on data software that they
37:51
Speaker 1: can do a data dump on this phone with. It
37:54
Speaker 1: wouldn't take very long at all. It may take a
37:56
Speaker 1: little bit longer to analyze things, but the things that
37:58
Speaker 1: they're going to be looking for right out of the the
38:00
Speaker 1: gay or the communications that occurred on around the date
38:04
Speaker 1: that she supposedly went missing in the days before, and
38:08
Speaker 1: who she was talking to, whether or not you can
38:10
Speaker 1: retrieve any text message date off that phone, something Nancy
38:13
Speaker 1: that I found interesting. It's just one more thing that
38:17
Speaker 1: raises questions is I read a press release from the
38:20
Speaker 1: Sheriff's office and they aren't just asking for the community
38:24
Speaker 1: to turn over any ring doorbell video or other video
38:28
Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. They were requesting it for the two
38:31
Speaker 1: day period prior as well. And one of the one
38:36
Speaker 1: of the things that causes so many questions in these cases,
38:39
Speaker 1: it seems like the inability to pin down a timeline,
38:42
Speaker 1: and as you know, that is so critical because until
38:45
Speaker 1: you can pin down exact timeline, you can't start ruling
38:50
Speaker 1: people out as possible suspects or persons of interest because
38:54
Speaker 1: you don't know where they were at because you don't
38:56
Speaker 1: know what time this occurred. Not your dead final thought,
39:02
Speaker 1: Sean McCollum, I think the oddest day for a perpetrator
39:07
Speaker 1: to be searching for a victim would be Mother's Day.
39:10
Speaker 1: That day is odd to me. You and I've been
39:12
Speaker 1: doing this a long time, and I can't tell you
39:14
Speaker 1: the last time I heard of a mom being kidnapped
39:16
Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. I think it is imperative that the
39:20
Speaker 1: community release any ring, photograph, any text message, phone call,
39:25
Speaker 1: any communication they had with her and the day they
39:28
Speaker 1: did it. I told you the first time we call it.
39:31
Speaker 1: It's odd to me that the neighbor would call nine
39:34
Speaker 1: one one and not the husband. I think it's odd.
39:37
Speaker 1: He's offering a hundred thousand dollars, but he's not saying, honey,
39:41
Speaker 1: I miss you. He's saying, hey, whatever, it's going to
39:44
Speaker 1: take money. Wise, y'all, let me know that's an odd thing.
39:47
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, since nobody asked you, better
39:54
Speaker 1: start tracking that route between Mazeful Denver. Right now, we
40:04
Speaker 1: wait as justice sub fols hold on before I sign off.
40:08
Speaker 1: Am I missing anything? Lauren Sharff? Do we have anything new?
40:12
Speaker 1: And I know the sheriff hasn't confirmed it. Whatever it is,
40:18
Speaker 1: hit me, well, Nancy, this is Sheryl. I've got one
40:21
Speaker 1: more thing. I'll take the same. Hids her cell phone.
40:25
Speaker 1: Did she normally take her phoes while she bikes for
40:29
Speaker 1: music or to track her route of some kind of
40:33
Speaker 1: exercise app The fact that she didn't have her foe
40:37
Speaker 1: is curious to me, Lauren Sharff got anything for me.
40:39
Speaker 1: We asked the sheriff as far as is this a
40:42
Speaker 1: normal route that you know she takes, and you know,
40:46
Speaker 1: he just would say, yeah, you know, she's an avid biker. Actually,
40:51
Speaker 1: actually that tells me something because I was wondering if
40:54
Speaker 1: she normally biked every day or frequently, so that gives
40:59
Speaker 1: credence to a theory that she was out biking. I
41:02
Speaker 1: was wondering, you know, the last time I got on
41:04
Speaker 1: a bike was about a month ago when John David
41:06
Speaker 1: got a new bike and I went riding on it.
41:08
Speaker 1: So I was curious, could she possibly not even be
41:11
Speaker 1: a biker? But you're telling me something I didn't know,
41:14
Speaker 1: Ellen Clauren, you got anything to throw at me? Bysically,
41:16
Speaker 1: I just wanted to point out a question that I
41:18
Speaker 1: have at all. It is a question. But in that
41:21
Speaker 1: video that Barry morph you share a full week after
41:24
Speaker 1: the disappearance, I was surprised that his daughters weren't in
41:27
Speaker 1: that video with him. You know what, Allen, I had
41:30
Speaker 1: not thought of that. But you're absolutely correct. Okay, this
41:35
Speaker 1: case shrouded in mystery, and we are on it. If
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