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Eagles vs. Rams Postgame, Week 4 · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Eagles postgame analysis here at the Philadelphia Sports
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  Speaker 1: Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show.
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  Speaker 2: In the world.
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  Speaker 1: Over 13 and a half years strong. Week four of
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  Speaker 1: this Philadelphia Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: 2026-2027 season now in the books.
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  Speaker 1: They lose to the Los Angeles Rams at the link
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  Speaker 1: in a horrific fashion.
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  Speaker 2: By a score of 24-20. just amazing themes that.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to continue to talk about on this
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  Speaker 1: Eagles postgame show that we've talked about in previous postgame
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  Speaker 1: shows as well. But I want to introduce my buddy
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  Speaker 1: who is filling in for the guys this week from the.
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  Speaker 2: Honorable Mention podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We love talking to him every now and again as
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  Speaker 1: we talk about the Eagles. Sometimes we talk about the Sixers.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we talk about the Phillies. He is Matt Rogers,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you so much for taking the time
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  Speaker 1: to join us here. Really appreciate it, man.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for always extending the invitation to come on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always, always receptive.
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  Speaker 3: And I wish we were under better circumstances today. I know.
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  Speaker 3: They held on for about, you know, 56 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know, what amazes me is the.
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  Speaker 1: Fact that this Eagles team over and over and over again, consistent,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about the same themes, you know, week after week.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to the themes, though, just want to
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  Speaker 1: go through the injuries really quick, just in case some
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  Speaker 1: folks missed the game and didn't realize there were certain
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  Speaker 1: players that were injured coming into this game. Devontae Smith
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  Speaker 1: was out with a hamstring injury. Zach Bond out with
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  Speaker 1: a concussion. Lane Johnson had a personal matter. Marcus Epps
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  Speaker 1: was out with a groin, Fred Johnson out with a
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  Speaker 1: knee injury. Now during the game, Saquon Barkley was injured
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  Speaker 1: in the first quarter. He left with a hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 1: Quinion Mitchell injured his knee. The very first snap of
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  Speaker 1: the second half, Jonathan Jones then came in to replace him.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Grenard went.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard went into the locker room in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: He went out with a knee injury and tank Bixby
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  Speaker 1: left the game in the fourth quarter. I mean, it was,
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  Speaker 1: It was a devastating loss in terms of injuries with
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  Speaker 1: regard to this game, but no excuse. No excuse at
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  Speaker 1: all because, yes, this team loses at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day. And I think the Eagles ended up getting
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  Speaker 1: the ball to start the game, as we saw, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess my first theme is here, what has
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  Speaker 1: happened with this team on third down? What has happened
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  Speaker 1: with this team consistently on third down as– The pathetic
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  Speaker 1: nature of play calling has persisted. Again, Eagles get the
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  Speaker 1: ball to start the game. There was miscommunication on the
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  Speaker 1: second play of the game. We heard some expletives from
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts on the broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't bleep it. There was, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Third down, Jalen had Dontavian Wicks wide open, didn't see him.
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  Speaker 1: It was a third and out to start the game,
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  Speaker 1: and it really was... And another theme here, that theme
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  Speaker 1: that the Eagles are just not able to convert on
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  Speaker 1: third down in the first half. They're not able to
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  Speaker 1: convert on third down in the second half. Last week
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  Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears, they went two of nine.
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  Speaker 2: Today, they were 0 for 11.
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  Speaker 1: The first time at home in Philly that that has
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  Speaker 1: happened since all the way back in 2001 in that
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  Speaker 1: game against Baltimore that was actually said on the broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: That is my first theme.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess the real question is, this is persisting
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  Speaker 1: over and over and over, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: Something has to happen. Something has to give.
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  Speaker 1: Heads are going to have to roll at some point
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  Speaker 1: if I'm not maybe mistaken here. Something has to happen.
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  Speaker 1: This is the same shit over and over. It's the
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  Speaker 1: same shit.
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  Speaker 3: I think Sirianni, I think at a certain point, it's
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  Speaker 3: like at one point, the Chip Kelly Eagles were unstoppable.
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  Speaker 3: At a certain point, the NFL– predominantly led by the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 3: were basically unlocked, basically the way to defend them. And
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the Eagles are so predictable. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they are going to run on first down, doesn't go well.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to try some intermediate second down. Just thematically,
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  Speaker 3: it's so easy to understand what the Eagles are always
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  Speaker 3: trying to do. And then on third down, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to ask guys to, you know, Jalen Hurts to make
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  Speaker 3: some kind of hero play. If I was making the
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  Speaker 3: case that Jalen Hurts is the best Eagles quarterback, best
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  Speaker 3: quarterback in Eagles history, this is not the film I'd say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: go turn this tape on from today's game, and this
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  Speaker 3: is what I would have them watch.
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  Speaker 4: This was not a great game from him today.
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  Speaker 1: It was not a great game from him. It was
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  Speaker 1: not a great game from the offense overall because when
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  Speaker 1: you look at this Eagles offense and you do take
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  Speaker 1: a look at the box score, if anybody actually wants
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  Speaker 1: to dive into it, 104 yards total rushing. 93 yards
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  Speaker 1: of receiving. Jalen Hurts only threw for 93 yards in
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  Speaker 1: this game. He averaged 3.4 yards per attempt.
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  Speaker 2: His rating was a 78.2.
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  Speaker 1: Threw the ball 27 times, completed 12. Yes, the elements
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  Speaker 1: were out there, but man, Matt Stafford threw.
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  Speaker 4: The ball 51 times.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, completed 32 of them, you know, and two interceptions too. Really,
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  Speaker 1: just an incredibly messy game on both sides of the
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  Speaker 1: ball for both teams. But I will say my other
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  Speaker 1: theme that I wanted to dive into as well. And again,
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  Speaker 1: it's a theme we talked about last week, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not just with third down, but it correlates with third down.
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  Speaker 1: is we're seeing this Eagles offense not producing in terms
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  Speaker 1: of getting chunk yards on early downs.
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  Speaker 2: It is always third and long, Matt, and it's continuing
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  Speaker 2: to persist.
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  Speaker 4: Second and long and third.
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  Speaker 2: And long, always.
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  Speaker 3: That's incredible. Thus they go 0 for 11. When I
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  Speaker 3: was looking, it said 0 for 12, but either way.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's 0 for 12. It is 0 for 12.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 3: It only 10 penalties. That's a lot of pedal, 10 penalties.
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  Speaker 3: And they're always back breakers. That's my theme. Jeff for
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  Speaker 3: today is, is about the, the, the penalties just horrendous.
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  Speaker 3: And some of them, the Jonathan Jones, to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurst got blown up on the sideline, just like that. The,
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  Speaker 3: the other day, I mean, on a play like that,
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  Speaker 3: where the guy it's a running back, who's clearly trying
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  Speaker 3: to extend the ball out.
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  Speaker 4: He's trying to, you know, blunt his momentum.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. He blew him up. So that one, okay.
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  Speaker 4: But for the most part, they're really boneheaded, just egregious
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  Speaker 4: penalties that are making away chunk plays too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of chunk plays are happening. They
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  Speaker 2: happen to be when the Eagles are, I guess, cheating. Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: They have to be cheating, right? Exactly. Got to be
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  Speaker 2: cheating in order to get those chunk yards.
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  Speaker 1: But really, Matt, I think at the end of the day, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, it's just coaching,
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  Speaker 1: coaching and.
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  Speaker 2: A lack of now coach. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Lack of preparedness and a lack of preparedness. That's, that's
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  Speaker 2: what this looked like as good as.
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  Speaker 1: Like, the wide receivers are on this team this year
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  Speaker 1: because they really are a bright spot. And as good
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  Speaker 1: as Jalen hurts has been the PR the previous three weeks,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, as, as a NFL quarterback, he's been
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  Speaker 1: really damn good today.
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  Speaker 2: Really, really crap the bed, not good at all. And
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  Speaker 2: he would probably say that too. I mean, we're.
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  Speaker 1: Recording this right after the fourth quarter ended. He probably
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  Speaker 1: will say that he did not play very well this week,
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  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the coaching team,
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely horrendous. And I wonder, I really do wonder
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  Speaker 1: if this wasn't necessarily a Kevin Petullo issue last year.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Mannion, this looks very, very similar to what we
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  Speaker 1: saw last year, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: It does at the end of the day. I said
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  Speaker 3: it on another publication. I'm not going to plug another
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  Speaker 3: publication while I'm on.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: It's my own. It's the honorable mention podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I said, on the last episode, that we've got to
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  Speaker 3: get Nick Sirianni the hell out of the room because
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  Speaker 3: all of this lulliness of this offense and these just
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  Speaker 3: long periods of time where nothing's happening, it's all rhyming.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like Nick is the one who is making
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  Speaker 3: these calls. And it just totally came to fruition again today.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we can't, yeah. I mean, I do think that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Kevin Petullo was actually the answer, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't agree.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was a solution.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure he was the problem that that's where
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming to with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing this really manifest right now because the same
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  Speaker 1: themes of last year are the same themes that we
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  Speaker 1: are seeing this year as well. I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: also about the offensive line. And I really do wonder,
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  Speaker 1: I really, really do wonder if losing Jeff Stoutland, was
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  Speaker 1: that big of a hit four weeks into this season
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  Speaker 1: was losing Jeff Stoutland, a huge, huge negative for this team,
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  Speaker 1: how that all went down during the off season, because
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  Speaker 1: this offensive line and we have been spoiled, as we
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  Speaker 1: have said a number of times, folks over the years,
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  Speaker 1: we've been spoiled as Eagles fans, but this offensive line
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  Speaker 1: is not living up to the standard of what a
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles offensive line should be looking like, especially in
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  Speaker 1: week four. four at this point. The offensive line stinks
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  Speaker 1: to high heaven. And yes, Elaine Johnson was not playing today.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we've had the Landon Dickerson injury that this
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff has tried to deal with. But still, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think Jeff Stoutland would
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  Speaker 1: have had this offensive line in a much better position
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  Speaker 1: than where they currently are right now. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a huge issue. Not too many folks are talking about
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Stoutland right now. I think we need to start
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  Speaker 1: talking about that.
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  Speaker 2: I saw him. He's got a podcast.
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  Speaker 4: He looks like he's living his best life, drinking lots
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  Speaker 4: of water.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he looks, he looks well. Yes. Bring them back.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe somebody needs else needs to be in the, in
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  Speaker 3: the kitchen cooking.
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  Speaker 4: Sirianni, He is not imaginative.
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  Speaker 2: And some of.
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  Speaker 3: These plays are so predictable. And a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: they're running the same exact plays. I mean, it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: You get concepts, but it's so predictable. I mean, if
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  Speaker 3: I'm playing against them, I know exactly what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Every single time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, I don't want to completely have our discussion
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  Speaker 1: within the toilet because outside of the toilet, there was
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  Speaker 1: some good stuff that happened. The Eagles had their very
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  Speaker 1: first turnover.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Eagles had their very first turnover. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Makuba has interception on the Rams. Very first drive
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  Speaker 1: of the game. Quite a turnaround for Andrew Makuba right
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  Speaker 1: out of the gate. Great pressure from Jonathan Grenard to
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  Speaker 1: force Matthew Stafford into overthrowing it. Makuba was in a
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  Speaker 1: great position to make a diving catch and interception that
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  Speaker 1: put the Eagles in a really, really good field position
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  Speaker 1: where they were able to come away with three points. But, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, you know, Stafford has thrown an interception in
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  Speaker 1: his first four games this season. First time ever in
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  Speaker 1: his career. Eagles actually had 10 points off of turnovers
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  Speaker 1: in this game. If the defense didn't keep this team
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  Speaker 1: in this game, the offense, as we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: really wouldn't have been able to do anything. So I
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  Speaker 1: do think we need to give some kudos to this
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  Speaker 1: defense for actually keeping them in the game as long
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  Speaker 1: as they did. And of course they faltered right at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the fourth quarter, Matt, but kudos goes
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  Speaker 1: to the.
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  Speaker 2: Defense and for getting some turnovers this week.
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  Speaker 3: I think that, uh, I think another thing that needs
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  Speaker 3: to be pointed out is.
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  Speaker 2: That, uh, the.
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  Speaker 4: McVay made a bad decision that forced.
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  Speaker 3: The, the Rams up in a bad situation. The Eagles
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  Speaker 3: drive the length of the field and then Sirianni trades
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  Speaker 3: him back a bad decision and goes forward on fourth.
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  Speaker 3: If Sirianni kicks the 2310 is a totally different game.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely. So again, he, he.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't go for it when it totally makes sense and he,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the fourth and one and a half and
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to tush push.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't he know that these guys are?
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  Speaker 2: Can you not?
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  Speaker 3: I guess you can't practice the tush push with the
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  Speaker 3: right intensity. So I guess he can't tell that Drew
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  Speaker 3: Kendall and Cam Juergens, but he's got to know that
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  Speaker 3: in these situations, if you don't know that I'm getting
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  Speaker 3: it on these fourth and one and a half. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that was one of the clearest times when they've run
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  Speaker 3: that play and I was watching it. There was no
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  Speaker 3: question in my mind that that that they got Stonewall.
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  Speaker 3: that there was absolutely didn't even get close to a
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  Speaker 3: first down.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's again, we're going back to coaching, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're going back to coaching and the lack thereof. I
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  Speaker 1: also wanted to mention another theme from this game too,
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  Speaker 1: from a positive perspective. And I kind of mentioned it
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  Speaker 1: during our initial discussion, how the wide receivers really are
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  Speaker 1: one of the very bright spots on this team this season.
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  Speaker 1: And we saw it today with one, Darius Cooper with
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  Speaker 1: an amazing grab in the end zone in the second quarter.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be an intercepted ball,
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  Speaker 1: but Darius Cooper said, uh-uh, no way, no way.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hold my beer here.
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  Speaker 1: No way am I letting this defender.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I thought.
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  Speaker 1: Cooper mossed Lake with regard to that particular catch.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of the worst I've seen in a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 4: Cause like that's an interception almost every other time.
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  Speaker 3: If you play that back a hundred times, he's getting
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  Speaker 3: that interception most times.
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  Speaker 4: That was absolutely incredible catch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then after the second touchdown, after Darius Cooper, second touchdown, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, I mean, even when Devante
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  Speaker 1: Smith comes back, Darius Cooper should absolutely be playing more
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  Speaker 1: snaps than, than he does. I actually believe he's probably
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  Speaker 1: the third best receiver in, on this Eagles roster here
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  Speaker 1: at this point. And I think Darius Cooper, based on
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  Speaker 1: today's game, based on all the crap that we saw
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  Speaker 1: from an offensive perspective, he was consistent and he was
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  Speaker 1: able to produce upping his game. I think Darius Cooper
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  Speaker 1: should be getting more snaps in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: He's third.
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  Speaker 3: So we're Barry or so we're burying Hollywood Brown, Hollywood Browns,
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  Speaker 3: basically a, At Hogwarts.
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  Speaker 2: He's basically. Yes. Yes. Basically.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: At this point. So, I mean, that's another. Yes. That's
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  Speaker 2: another theme for me. Hogwarts. That's terrible. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: If you're listening to this, buddy, we're sorry.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a good one, buddy. I mean, do you
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  Speaker 1: have any other themes from this game, you know, before we,
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  Speaker 1: before we head to our break here and before we
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  Speaker 1: then get into the grades by unit, do you have
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  Speaker 1: any other themes?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if the tush push doesn't exist anymore than.
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  Speaker 3: The way that the Eagles eat and maybe the best
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  Speaker 3: damn thing, I guess the biggest news of the show,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they have to call the plays a little more aggressively.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you can take a first down shot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Wouldn't that be great?
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  Speaker 1: You could try to go intermediate on first down.
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  Speaker 3: Just run up the gut. Outside zone, obviously. Because maybe
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  Speaker 3: we don't have that. It's not a cheat code. It's
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  Speaker 3: that extra leverage to be able to. It's literally what
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  Speaker 3: it is. That on third and fourth and one, we
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  Speaker 3: could just hammer in the first. Maybe actually you have
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  Speaker 3: to run real plays. And maybe they'll have to put
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  Speaker 3: more plays in the playbook.
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  Speaker 1: God, I'm getting heart palpitations thinking about this, Matt. Look
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  Speaker 1: at this here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Getting heart palpitations thinking about taking a shot.
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  Speaker 2: On more plays. Not a bore fest. Exactly. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And again, any more themes, you know, before we had
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  Speaker 1: a break here?
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  Speaker 3: We can leave it on that for the break because
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  Speaker 3: that good thoughts before the.
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  Speaker 4: Break, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're going to take a break. When
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  Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to grade by unit, and
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  Speaker 1: then we're going to give out our MVP award, our
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: LVP award.
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  Speaker 2: Better known as our doo-doo butter award.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be back in just a bit, folks.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with our buddy, Matt Rogers from the
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  Speaker 1: honorable mention podcast. I subscribe on Apple podcasts. Matt's on
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  Speaker 1: whatever podcast platform you're listening to us on. a great,
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  Speaker 1: great listen all the time. And my friend, let's do
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  Speaker 1: some grading here. Jalen hurts. I read off the stats earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving Jalen hurts this week. A D plus.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give him?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I got it.
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  Speaker 4: I got to say it. That that's the grade. That's
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  Speaker 4: the grade.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: He threw two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: The best thing he did in the game was throwing
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  Speaker 1: those two touchdowns, but again, 12 to 27, 93 yards, 3.4
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  Speaker 1: yards per attempt. And he sacked four times, lost 25
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  Speaker 1: yards on those four sacks and a rating of 78.2. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns he threw. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: it was a D plus grade for me.
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  Speaker 3: But he's not going to get the award for me
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  Speaker 3: as far as, you know, when we get to our award.
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  Speaker 2: Not going to get the doo-doo butter award?
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  Speaker 1: Oh!
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  Speaker 2: So there are worse grades coming, folks. Worst grades coming, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go to the running back position. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, okay? Even though total in
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  Speaker 1: terms of Eagles rushing, 3.9 yards per rush on the
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  Speaker 1: day with everybody, Tank Bigsby, Will Shipley, Hertz, and Barkley.
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  Speaker 1: Barkley only carried the ball twice before his injury for
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  Speaker 1: eight yards, and then it was really Tank Bigsby who
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  Speaker 1: carried the ball 14 times for 55 yards, Will Shipley
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  Speaker 1: six times for 23 yards. It was basically like a 3.8, 3.9
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  Speaker 1: yards per carry type of game. I'm going to actually
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  Speaker 1: give them a B minus, you know, because at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, and we're going to get to
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line in just a bit, the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily help out the running backs today, but I
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  Speaker 1: think the running backs tried to make the most of
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  Speaker 1: each play.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give them a B minus. What do
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  Speaker 2: you give them?
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate the sentiment behind the B minus.
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  Speaker 2: But we can't, in my mind, I can't attach.
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  Speaker 4: B anything to that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: From those guys.
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  Speaker 3: They played fine. It was like a gentleman's C. It's
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  Speaker 3: like a gentleman's C.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe a C plus. Gentleman's average. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Gentleman's average.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Right.
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  Speaker 3: They put their hard hats on today, their vests on,
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  Speaker 3: and they went to work.
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  Speaker 2: And they showed up all the time. And they didn't
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  Speaker 2: leave early. That's what they did. All right. All right.
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  Speaker 1: The wide receivers and tight ends in this game. Darius
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  Speaker 1: Cooper had the most targets in this game. Seven targets
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  Speaker 1: came down with three balls for 33 yards. But Guy
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  Speaker 1: Lemon had six targets, caught three balls for 27 yards.
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  Speaker 1: Dontavian Wicks thought he'd be a little more involved in
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  Speaker 1: the game plan. He had five targets on the day,
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  Speaker 1: came down with three balls for 18 yards. Zach Ertz
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  Speaker 1: was targeted four times, came down with two balls for
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  Speaker 1: 13 yards. And then you had the running backs catching
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  Speaker 1: some passes here and there. They were each targeted one time.
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  Speaker 2: In the game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get, look, I'm going to give the
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  Speaker 1: receiver because Jalen hurts did not play well. And he
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  Speaker 1: was not putting the ball really where he needed to
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  Speaker 1: put the ball. But I think the receivers were coming
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  Speaker 1: up with some balls today that they needed to at times.
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  Speaker 1: And especially Darius Cooper on his first touchdown of the season,
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  Speaker 1: first touchdown of the game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give this crew a B minus. What
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  Speaker 2: do you give the receivers?
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  Speaker 3: I would have given them a B minus until the
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  Speaker 3: drop on the last important drive of the game by Zach.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: That's the whole drop was a killer. And then you
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  Speaker 3: got the drop on the, you know, if we're including
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  Speaker 3: the running backs.
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  Speaker 4: The, the, I get that.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that Jalen did put too much steam when
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  Speaker 3: he swung it out to the right there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: To think Bigsby, there was too much heat on that one.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess we won't exactly call that a drop,
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  Speaker 3: but they also, they were, they're, they're dipping in the
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  Speaker 3: gentleman's sea, but, but I'll give them the, the past catchers.
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  Speaker 3: They did make plays and how the hell can you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that, that, Amazing catch from Cooper definitely brings
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  Speaker 3: the average up for that.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the offensive line here. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of garbage here.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, it's– There was one today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They put bags out there. Yeah, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 2: go with an F today at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to just go with an F.
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  Speaker 1: This offensive line is continuing to fail week after week
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  Speaker 1: after week. Again, goes back to what I was saying earlier.
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  Speaker 1: They're missing Jeff Stoutman. I really truly believe that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: giving the offensive line an F.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give them?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if I could give him some worse, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Markel Bell, he, I don't want to, you know, be
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  Speaker 3: too hard on him because he had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: good moments, but still he's part of a, just a,
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  Speaker 3: just a, an atrocious performance.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're just absolutely in it.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Let's move to the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I do have to say, Matt, that I have been
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  Speaker 1: very disappointed over these past few weeks with how Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Davis and Jalen Carter, I was wearing my Jalen Carter
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  Speaker 1: Jersey earlier and I just took it off in frustration.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just so disappointed at how this line is performing
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  Speaker 1: this year. Yes, there were, what did they have? One
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  Speaker 1: sack on the day? Nolan Smith had one sack.
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  Speaker 2: No, Nolan had two. Did he have two sacks?
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  Speaker 4: I think Nolan Smith had two sacks today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think he did. I think he did. I'm
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  Speaker 2: reading the box score here and they have an incorrect
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  Speaker 2: as one. So regardless, they took one away.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they may have actually.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have him down for a tackle for a
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  Speaker 1: loss as well. But look, only only five quarterback hits
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  Speaker 1: on Matt Stafford. Are you kidding me? Only five quarterback
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  Speaker 1: hits on Matt Stafford.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they got one line. One sec.
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  Speaker 2: The defensive line is not getting it done. They're just
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  Speaker 2: not getting it done. I'm giving them a D this week.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give them?
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  Speaker 1: As much as the defense played a great role in
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  Speaker 1: terms of pressure, even I'm still going to give them
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  Speaker 1: a D because you got to get home every now
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  Speaker 1: and again, and they're not getting it done.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give them?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get, I'll give them a D plus. I
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  Speaker 3: liked a lot of what I saw from Garnard. They're
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  Speaker 3: going to be hanging and, and, and Nolan Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Inexplicably because I mean, I hate to give away state secrets,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, other people watch football too. And so
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  Speaker 3: what I'm going to say is for the people who
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  Speaker 3: watch football, you may notice that if anybody gets their
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  Speaker 3: hands on Nolan Smith, Nolan Smith's not beating you, but
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  Speaker 3: if you let him come free at your quarterback, he
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  Speaker 3: is going to run right past you. So he had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of good pass rush moments today. And so
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  Speaker 3: did Jonathan Grenard with some absolutely just dominant moments.
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  Speaker 2: He was getting up.
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  Speaker 3: I know during the week, Vic was saying that he
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  Speaker 3: was going to play up to 30 snaps. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what the snap count was, but hopefully they're hanging
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  Speaker 3: or they're probably hanging their head on. Grenard's going to
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  Speaker 3: play more. He'll play better. But they're not getting home.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess they're saying that the quarterbacks are getting
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  Speaker 3: the ball off fast, which accounts for why they're not
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  Speaker 3: getting home. People throw the ball fast against other teams,
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  Speaker 3: quickly against other teams as well.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's move to the linebacker position. You
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  Speaker 1: basically had two that were out there for the majority
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  Speaker 1: of the day. Jeremiah Charter Jr. getting the start with
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  Speaker 1: Zach Bond being out with a concussion. Jihad Campbell as well.
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  Speaker 1: I think in terms of run stoppage, the linebackers basically
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  Speaker 1: were at about a B-plus or so. And then in
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  Speaker 1: pass coverage, especially Jihad Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, dude, it's got... In past coverage, it's been rough.
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  Speaker 1: It has really been rough. We talked about it last
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  Speaker 1: week as well. I mean, it brings it down. I
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  Speaker 1: would say in past coverage, probably a C minus.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to give him a B minus this week.
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  Speaker 1: I give Trotter a lot of credit for coming in
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  Speaker 1: his first like real start, real important game against this
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams team. a team that is slated to
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  Speaker 1: go to the super bowl. They basically were anointed before
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  Speaker 1: the season started. He did a pretty good job in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. So I'm going to give the linebackers a
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  Speaker 1: B plus this week.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give them? Yeah, I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: B minus B minus. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: B minus is the great you were saying when you
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  Speaker 4: were saying all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: B minus is what I, yeah, it's, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what to do about Jihad Campbell. I guess we can
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  Speaker 3: get into that later, but that's a, but that's a,
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  Speaker 3: that's a, Topic worthy of discussion.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Secondary, believe it or not, I am going to give
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  Speaker 1: the secondary this week a B plus could be an
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  Speaker 1: A minus 10 passes defended. And Michael Carter had three
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  Speaker 1: of them. Jonathan Jones had one. You had Cooper Dijon
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  Speaker 1: with two. Rick Wolin with one. They were past defending
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  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and these wide receivers like it was nobody's business.
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  Speaker 1: I really think the secondary did what they needed to do.
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  Speaker 1: And again, Andrew Makuba coming up with an interception, Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Dajin with a really nice interception, really great eyes, really
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  Speaker 1: great hands. when he was able to bring in that
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  Speaker 1: interception after Matt Stafford overthrew the receiver in front of him.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to give him a, I'd say it's
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  Speaker 1: B plus a minus, to be honest, I'll probably go
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  Speaker 1: B plus though here, just because overall they ended up
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  Speaker 1: losing the game.
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  Speaker 2: Things were crap. So I'd say B plus for the secondary.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give them? That's the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: I like had they won the, and I hate to
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  Speaker 3: be so simplistic about it, but had they won the game,
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  Speaker 3: then they get an A, not minus or plus, but
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  Speaker 3: they would get just a stone cold A because if
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  Speaker 3: I just eliminate the other people's performance and say I
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  Speaker 3: take that performance from this DB group to any game,
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  Speaker 3: should the Eagles have more than a chance?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Going up against Devontae and Puka, who was out there
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  Speaker 3: making amazing plays, they played very well. But when they
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  Speaker 3: needed to get the stop, they didn't get the stop.
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  Speaker 3: So I can't give any A anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Very fair. That's very fair. Oh, great. Yeah. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get into a really quick. Well, actually, let's see. Let's
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  Speaker 2: see where I am at with time. Actually, let's take
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  Speaker 2: a break.
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  Speaker 1: And then when we get back, we're going to grade
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  Speaker 1: coaches and then give out our MVP and LVP award.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Let's do that. Let's take a break. We'll
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  Speaker 2: be back in just a bit, folks.
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  Speaker 1: That is the Honorable Mention podcast, folks. All right, special
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  Speaker 1: teams this week. I have got to give. Jake Elliott,
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  Speaker 1: some kudos here at this point. He is perfect on
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  Speaker 1: the season so far. He had a 56-yard field goal today.
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  Speaker 1: This year, he is already two for two on 50-plus-yard
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  Speaker 1: field goals, Matt. A complete, basically, turnaround from where he
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  Speaker 1: was last year. Braden Mann had some pretty good punts today.
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  Speaker 1: He did have one that was a bit of a stinker.
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  Speaker 1: But the one in particular that I'm thinking about second
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  Speaker 1: quarter inside the 10 yard line, they needed to pin
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  Speaker 1: the Rams back. He did that Britain Covey with an
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  Speaker 1: amazing punt return in the second quarter for 41 yards.
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving special teams this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, what do you give them?
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I take, I'll take their performance today. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you have another one of the low light moments where
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  Speaker 3: Keely Ringo gets the running out of bounds, but also
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  Speaker 3: Keely has, you know, stacked up a few really good
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  Speaker 3: plays on defense and, And that shows why he's still
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  Speaker 3: on this damn team for all the people very preseason
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  Speaker 3: who were watching him play corner.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he has to have a position on, but he
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  Speaker 4: plays teams and he's a damn good special teams player.
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  Speaker 4: So I agree a, a across the board.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Very good. Let's move to the defensive side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball. Vic Fangio. Really?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this was a defensive effort from start to
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  Speaker 1: almost finish. It was a defensive game for this Eagles team.
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  Speaker 1: They were hanging in there. They were getting the job done.
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  Speaker 1: Two turnovers. They still ended up coughing up the ball, basically,
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, letting the Rams just go right
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  Speaker 1: down the field.
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  Speaker 2: Some stupid penalties here and there. Yeah. And that's not
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  Speaker 2: on Vic Fangio. The penalties aren't on Vic Fangio, who's
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  Speaker 2: up in the booth.
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  Speaker 1: However, I'm going to give the Eagles defensive coaching this
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  Speaker 1: week a straight up B.
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  Speaker 2: What do you give them? Yeah, yeah. It's tough.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What they're going to do. It's tough because I really do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it, but but John Campbell's
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  Speaker 3: a problem in past coverage right now. And with that liability.
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  Speaker 3: you know, the stinking fish in the room, everything's stinking.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't want to say that he stinks because
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  Speaker 3: I think he could still grow to be a very
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  Speaker 3: good player, but it's like a, you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: like a Dory Jackson at a certain point last season.
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  Speaker 3: Now Dory came back and had a really good season,
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  Speaker 3: but at certain points, if a Dory was on the field,
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  Speaker 3: it was just a problem. And that's what's going on
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  Speaker 3: right now with John Campbell. So I'll go with the B.
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  Speaker 3: You'll go with the B as well.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say B +, but again.
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  Speaker 3: They just couldn't get these guys off the field every
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  Speaker 3: time except for the two times they needed to.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Look, when we talk about offensive coaching with Nick Sirianni
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  Speaker 1: and Sean Mannion here, Matt, and I'm going to give him.
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  Speaker 2: A straight up F. I'm giving these guys an F.
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  Speaker 1: It was a poor fucking coaching– from decision-making to being
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  Speaker 1: prepared at the end of the day, this coaching staff
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  Speaker 1: offensively gets an F from me. As I mentioned earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the themes, there were, there were two turnovers in
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  Speaker 1: this game. Eagles got 10 points off those turnovers, but
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  Speaker 1: they were in a really, really good field position in
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  Speaker 1: order to get those 10 points. There was so much
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  Speaker 1: lack of movement, not to mention again, The lack of
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  Speaker 1: third down doing anything there. 0 for 12 on third down.
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  Speaker 2: This team has only gotten two third downs.
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  Speaker 1: Over two weeks of football play going back to last
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  Speaker 1: week against the Chicago Bears.
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  Speaker 2: This is an F totally for me. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What are you giving these two offensive these two offensive minds?
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  Speaker 3: I think– well, obviously the listeners think I thought what
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  Speaker 3: you said was hilarious, especially.
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  Speaker 4: At the beginning of it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to– I'll give them a D minus. I'll
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  Speaker 2: give them a.
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  Speaker 3: D minus because of what they were cooking with because
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  Speaker 3: at NFL wide receivers, you were going out there. Dontavian
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  Speaker 3: Wicks I would say is probably a B player. You've
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  Speaker 3: got Darius Cooper, Mekhi Lemon. You're not really cooking with gas.
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  Speaker 3: And they still stayed in– so some of their plays–
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  Speaker 3: May have been watered down by the lack of just
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of times it's just a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of raw talent that's making these incredible plays.
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  Speaker 2: So, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: But they've got to turn the page. They've absolutely got
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  Speaker 3: to turn the page right now. And I don't mean
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  Speaker 3: that in just like the psychological way. They need to
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  Speaker 3: take this as motivation that right now what's going on
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  Speaker 3: is not good enough. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect way to end that particular segment.
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  Speaker 1: And let's talk about the MVP, the LVP, the least
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  Speaker 1: valuable player, which we've also dubbed the doo-doo butter award.
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  Speaker 2: MVP of this game.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to actually figure out who's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the MVP of this particular game because I'm going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth, believe it or not, between two different individuals
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  Speaker 1: in this game. And I am going to actually end
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  Speaker 1: up going with Darius Cooper. Yes, he only caught three
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  Speaker 1: balls on the day for 33 yards, but those two
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns were absolutely critical.
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  Speaker 2: He had an amazing catch.
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  Speaker 1: Again, he mossed Lake, which was fantastic in and of itself.
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  Speaker 1: But I was also thinking about Jake Elliott, too. Really,
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  Speaker 1: the fact, and not just because of today. Yes, we're
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: just grading today's game. But psychologically, where Jake Elliott is,
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  Speaker 1: he's in a good place where he's able to make
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  Speaker 1: a 56-yard field goal and then some. There was definitely
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: some room on that field goal. But I am going
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  Speaker 1: to go with Darius Cooper as the MVP in this game.
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  Speaker 1: He only had 33 yards. He averaged 11 yards per
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  Speaker 1: reception on seven targets. But still, I'm going with Darius Cooper.
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  Speaker 1: Who's your MVP of this particular game here, Matt?
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  Speaker 2: I got to go with Darius Cooper as well.
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  Speaker 3: My honorable mention, I would say Reek Willen. I think
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: had a really good game. Despite the fact that you
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: look at the box score and, you know, Nakua and
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Adams made plays.
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  Speaker 4: Those guys are going to make plays. They're just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And they got it. I was thinking of Michael Carter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking of Michael Carter too, because he had
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  Speaker 1: three passes defended, you know, there's something to be said
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  Speaker 1: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 1: The least valuable player in this game. Who gets the
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  Speaker 1: doo-doo butter award? I am going specifically with Cam Juergens because,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: my goodness, I have no idea what has happened to
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  Speaker 1: this particular gentleman on the offensive line. Yet again, playing horrendously,
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  Speaker 1: whether it is in pass protection, whether it is in
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  Speaker 1: run blocking. We saw it in the first half. We
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: saw it in the second half, too, folks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby and.
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  Speaker 1: And Will Shipley were getting some chunk yards every now
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  Speaker 1: and again before they were called back for a penalty.
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  Speaker 2: And Cam Juergens is just nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he is just– he's holding guys. Matt, pull
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  Speaker 1: back the curtain, folks. I said to Matt before we
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  Speaker 1: hit the record button, Cam Juergens is holding guys and
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  Speaker 1: not getting called.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, ridiculous holds.
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  Speaker 1: I think the refs felt badly for how bad he
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  Speaker 1: was playing today. Cam Juergens is my doo-doo butter award.
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  Speaker 1: Who's your least valuable player in this one?
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  Speaker 2: I'll go with you.
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  Speaker 3: On that because he is– because Markel Bell, I was,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to give it to the whole offensive line,
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  Speaker 3: but really my lot of plays pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: Kendall is playing fine for his position.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Maybe they need to move, but, but what the.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Hell what's wrong with Lent Lampkin?
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  Speaker 3: Why don't they put, why don't they move can Jurgens
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  Speaker 3: back to his original spot, which is center.
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  Speaker 4: Cause he's just not powerful enough there.
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  Speaker 2: He's getting bull rush.
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  Speaker 4: He's getting his ass whipped.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just painful to watch because this guy
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: was highly touted and he's looking to be the next page.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: People are talking about, okay, well, this could be the
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: offensive line of the future.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey wanted him. Like, Jason Kelsey was like, he's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the guy.
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  Speaker 2: At center, not left guard. Right, right.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get somebody in there at left guard who's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: ready to go because, I mean, the fact that they
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: can't run the psychologically– You've got the psychological plus, like
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: you mentioned a second ago, of Jake Elliott being able
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: to hit 50-plus. So that changes the play calls you
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: have to make. You call plays with a certain confidence,
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  Speaker 3: but then you lose the confidence of, hey, if we
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: get to.
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  Speaker 4: Fourth and two or third and two or third and one,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: third and inches even, with this offensive line, I have
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: some trepidation about that.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Great word. Trepidation.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of trepidation with this Eagles team as
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: we have ended week four here. And we're looking to
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: week five as they're going to be taking on the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars over across the pond. And, and it's going
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to be, that's going to be an interesting game next
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: week for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So buddy, I think we're going to end things here.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: You got anything else to close us out here?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I, I, I, Zach Ertz certainly can get open.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to need to hit the jugs machine.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I think, I think I'm not, I've seen him get
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: tackled enough. If it, even as we get later into
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the season, it didn't seem like they were really confident
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: in Eli Stowers anyway.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: So it looks like it's going to be Ertz in
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: there playing a lot.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: So, Hey, those were not the Zach Ertz hands that
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I remember from, from that exactly today. Cause if he
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: had those, he would be a lot more trustworthy.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: It would change things up. So that's it. That's a
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: theme to leave everybody off with.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good.
• 37:28
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• 38:03
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• 38:06
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