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Was Trump a Manchurian Candidate? · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, don't skip this.
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  Speaker 2: It's not an ad, just dropping in to let you know.
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  Speaker 2: This episode was initially recorded and released back in February
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and at the time it was just for
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  Speaker 2: subscribers and oh man, even just three years ago, it
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  Speaker 2: was a completely different world. Travel back in time with
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  Speaker 2: me to a universe where our main problem was just
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  Speaker 2: that Trump was in office. He was only a year
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  Speaker 2: into his term at this point, and we were all
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  Speaker 2: still wondering at what point during the next three years
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  Speaker 2: Trump's incompetence was going to cost us hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 2: of lives, and how it was going to happen if
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  Speaker 2: you had the poorly handled pandemic square in your office.
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  Speaker 2: Betting Pool, congratulations on getting Rich off COVID. You're the
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  Speaker 2: new Jeff Bezos. This episode happened so long ago. I
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  Speaker 2: still thought Robert Mueller's last name was pronounced Mueller.
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  Speaker 1: You'll hear it.
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  Speaker 2: The Russia investigation had started by this point, but we
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  Speaker 2: didn't know a whole lot about it yet. We were
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  Speaker 2: still a full two years away from the findings being released,
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  Speaker 2: and politicians and political pundits bragging about reading all four
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pages like they just walked on the moon.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Stephen King has ever written a book
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  Speaker 2: that was less than four hundred and fifty pages long,
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  Speaker 2: and there are untold numbers of people who've read every
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  Speaker 2: single one of them, and it wasn't their job. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've even mentioned that this episode is
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  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump's ties to Russia, and I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the first episodes we ever recorded about
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  Speaker 2: that particular moment in American history. So you're gonna hear
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of names that have since become synonymous with
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  Speaker 2: collaborating with Vladimir Putin to overthrow American elections. But back then,
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  Speaker 2: we were still kind at the point where we were
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  Speaker 2: just getting introduced to the casting characters. There are also,
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  Speaker 2: upon listening to this episode again, a few quirky little
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  Speaker 2: moments here and there, like the bit at the end
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  Speaker 2: where me and Connor are marveling at the idea of
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  Speaker 2: people recording podcasts remotely. For example, we have obviously cleared
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  Speaker 2: that hurdle since then. There's also a sort of creepy
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  Speaker 2: moment where I mentioned that I know one of the
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  Speaker 2: hackers who was involved in the Chelsea Manning scandal. Why
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  Speaker 2: is that creepy? Because he died a month later under
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  Speaker 2: mysterious circumstances. I mean that obviously has nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with this episode. Very weird coincidence though, And speaking of
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  Speaker 2: mysterious circumstances and names you might recognize. Until I listened
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  Speaker 2: back to this episode, I had completely forgotten that there
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  Speaker 2: was a point in time where Moby was neck deep
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  Speaker 2: in the Russia investigation. Do you remember that? And yes,
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  Speaker 2: I do mean the EDM musician Moby. He went on
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  Speaker 2: a radio show around the time this episode came out
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  Speaker 2: and said he'd met several CIA agents in his years
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  Speaker 2: of touring, which I do believe, and that they'd given
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  Speaker 2: him a bunch of dirt on Trump and Russia and
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  Speaker 2: we're entrusting him to get it out to the people.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck happened with that? Have we checked on
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  Speaker 2: Moby recently? Is he still tweeting? Is everything okay? Someone
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  Speaker 2: check on Moby anyway. The reason we're putting this episode
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  Speaker 2: back out is because there's an update to this story.
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  Speaker 2: While you were justifiably fascinated by the game Stop saga,
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  Speaker 2: an x KGB agent came forward and claimed that Russia
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  Speaker 2: had been cultivating Trump as an asset for forty years.
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  Speaker 2: That's a thing I'd speculated about a little bit on
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  Speaker 2: an episode of Unpopular Opinion a few years ago, but
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  Speaker 2: I definitely wasn't the only one. The reason for all
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  Speaker 2: that speculation was in large part due to Trump's first
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  Speaker 2: visit to Russia, which happened way back in nineteen eighty seven.
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  Speaker 2: BuzzFeed reported on this way back in twenty fifteen. And
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  Speaker 2: what's interesting about the trip is that immediately upon returning,
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  Speaker 2: he took out a full page ad in the New
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  Speaker 2: York Times, the Washington Post, and the Boston Globe. And
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  Speaker 2: the main point of that ad was why does America
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  Speaker 2: spend so much money defending other countries? Here's a sample quote.
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  Speaker 2: We defend the Persian Gulf, an area of only marginal
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  Speaker 2: significance to the United States for its oil supplies, but
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  Speaker 2: one upon which Japan and others are almost totally dependent.
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  Speaker 2: End quote. You might recognize that as being very similar
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  Speaker 2: to his Hey, maybe we should pull out a NATO
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  Speaker 2: if the member countries don't pay more. Bit that is
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  Speaker 2: a Russia talking point. NATO exists to protect those countries
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  Speaker 2: from Russia. When Trump is asking why is America policing
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  Speaker 2: the world and defending all these other countries. It's because
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  Speaker 2: of Russia. So as far back as nineteen eighty SI
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  Speaker 2: he was taking out pro Russia ads in American newspapers,
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  Speaker 2: and that started immediately after his first trip to Russia.
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  Speaker 2: So no, duh, they've been cultivating him for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: We wouldn't let someone skate by on calling something like
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  Speaker 2: that a coincidence in a true crime documentary, so we
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  Speaker 2: certainly shouldn't allow it here either. Also in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 2: Politico published a lengthy article about Trump's first visit to
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  Speaker 2: Russia and the claims that the country had been cultivating
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  Speaker 2: him as an asset since the nineteen eighties. And now,
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  Speaker 2: as I just mentioned, an XKGB agent is claiming that
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  Speaker 2: all of that is true. His name is Yuri Schvetz,
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  Speaker 2: and he's the key source for a new book called
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  Speaker 2: American Compramot by journalist Craig Unger. Compramont is the word
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  Speaker 2: Russia uses for information they can use for blackmail purposes. No,
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  Speaker 2: that's not a literal translation either, Save it commenters. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: According to Schwez, Trump first came to the attention of
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  Speaker 2: the Russians when he married Ivana Zelnikova, who you probably
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  Speaker 2: know better as Evanna Trump back in nineteen seventy seven.
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  Speaker 2: That's when he became the target of a spying operation
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  Speaker 2: coordinated between Czechoslovakian intelligence agencies and the KGB. Ivana was
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  Speaker 2: a Czechoslovakian model, you see. Schwetz also discusses Trump's first
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  Speaker 2: trip to Russia and says he was fed talking points
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  Speaker 2: and flattered by KGB operatives and encouraged to go into politics.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a quote for the KGB. It was a charm offensive.
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  Speaker 2: They had collected a lot of information on his personality,
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  Speaker 2: so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was
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  Speaker 2: that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually and psychologically, and he
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  Speaker 2: was prone to flattery. This is what they exploited. They
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  Speaker 2: played the game as if they were immensely impressed by
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  Speaker 2: his personality and believe this is the guy who should
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  Speaker 2: be president of the United States one day. It is
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  Speaker 2: people like him who could change the world. They fed
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  Speaker 2: him the so called active measures sound bites and it happened.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a big achievement for the KGB Active
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  Speaker 2: measures at the time. And there's also a quote in
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  Speaker 2: the book about that ad Trump took out in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty seven. They viewed it as a successful active measure
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  Speaker 2: that was executed by a new KGB agent. Here's that quote.
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  Speaker 2: It was unprecedented. I am pretty well familiar with KGB
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  Speaker 2: active measures starting in the early seventies and eighties, and
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  Speaker 2: then afterwards with Russia active measures, and I haven't heard
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  Speaker 2: anything like it or anything similar until Trump became president
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  Speaker 2: of this country. Because it was just silly. It was
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  Speaker 2: hard to believe that somebody would publish it under his
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  Speaker 2: name and that it will impress real serious people in
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  Speaker 2: the West. But it did, and finally this guy became
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  Speaker 2: the president. He also says he was disappointed by the
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  Speaker 2: limited scope of the Mueller investigation and that this book
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  Speaker 2: is the continuation of that investigation. And here's one last
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  Speaker 2: quote from the author of the book, Craig Unger. He
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  Speaker 2: was an asset. It was not this grand, ingenious plan
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to develop this guy and forty years
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  Speaker 2: later he'll be president. At the time it started, which
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  Speaker 2: was around nineteen eighty, the Russians were trying to recruit
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  Speaker 2: like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.
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  Speaker 2: So all of that, and somehow we're still debating whether
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  Speaker 2: Trump should be allowed to run for president again in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. What a time to be alive, am
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  Speaker 2: I right? Anyway, let's get to the podcast. Stabler.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with the hosts Adam Todd,
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Knye mcspadin.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm Adam Todd,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Connor mcspaden. Welcome to mind Control month. Once again.
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  Speaker 2: We're starting in the middle of the month. But you
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  Speaker 2: know how we do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what are we gonna give you two weeks
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  Speaker 3: of just like non canonical content so we can like, no,
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  Speaker 3: let's just go right in the mic. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah's a period of thirty days. Dude, Welcome to mind
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  Speaker 3: You guys are using the sheeple calendar.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about Trump today and the theory or idea
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  Speaker 2: that Trump could be a Manchurian candidate. Yeah, which this is.
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  Speaker 2: This is interesting to me because I've have you ever
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  Speaker 2: seen the Manchurian candidate?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it now and I like.
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  Speaker 2: That as Americans we immediately go to have you seen it, Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a book. Yeah yeah, it's a book that
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  Speaker 2: came out ten years before the movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I've never read the book or seen the movie
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  Speaker 1: neither of I I've only I only know it as
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  Speaker 1: a kind of a reference.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the thing about this is like, is is
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  Speaker 3: he under influence like like convention forms of influence in
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  Speaker 3: blackmail and levers that you can have over a person,
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  Speaker 3: or is it an actual Like there's more evidence for
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  Speaker 3: that than it being an actual, like somebody sat him
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  Speaker 3: down in fedim LSD while they played you know.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking yeah. That's that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: As we especially when we get to the end the
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  Speaker 2: term Manchurian candidate, people tend to think of it as
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  Speaker 2: definitely involving brainwashing, but as it's been brought up throughout history,
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  Speaker 2: people more tend to use it just to imply that
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  Speaker 2: someone's under the control of a foreign government.
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  Speaker 1: That just the double agent in general.
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  Speaker 2: And working to destroy the unit. It's always the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very very rarely like, oh, there's a Chinese
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  Speaker 3: Manchurian candidate, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the most basic definition an American president controlled
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  Speaker 2: by a foreign government, regardless of how it happens. That's
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  Speaker 2: how it's come to be known throughout the years. And
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  Speaker 2: the phrase comes from the nineteen fifty nine Richard Condon
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  Speaker 2: novel of the same name. In that book, Soldier's return
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  Speaker 2: from the Korean War, brainwashed to believe in Communism, one
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  Speaker 2: of them is programmed to unwittingly carry out an assassination.
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  Speaker 1: Book got mixed reviews.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is interesting because it's so like, I've never
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  Speaker 2: read the book, but I know exactly what Manchurian candidate means.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird that something could be like maybe a
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  Speaker 3: mediocre piece of writing but becomes such any ubiquitous term.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It made Time magazine's list of the ten best bad
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  Speaker 2: novels when it came out, but it was a bestseller
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  Speaker 2: and it probably sold as well as it did because
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  Speaker 2: back then communists infiltrating the government that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a concern.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean this was you know, the Eisenhower Nixon era. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like that was that was like the easy way to
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  Speaker 3: get everyone to pay. Like that's on Nixon rose to power,
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  Speaker 3: is doing that. I mean this guy literally went from
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  Speaker 3: you know this the congressman to the vice president and
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  Speaker 3: like so like like ten years. That just a crazy
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  Speaker 3: quick amount of time from just exploiting that fear. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so if you wrote a novel where you had this
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  Speaker 3: novel concept or whatever. Uh so I could definitely see
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  Speaker 3: how that would you catch on with people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it it's like we carried on with that forever,
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  Speaker 2: like almost until nine. Like we had at that brief
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  Speaker 2: period of time where the Soviet Union collapsed and nine
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  Speaker 2: to eleven where we were like, are just crazy white dudes.
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  Speaker 1: In America going to be the enemy now? Yeah, nine
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  Speaker 1: to eleven happened.
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  Speaker 3: We were like, oh okay, good, thanks, we need this
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  Speaker 3: will tide us over until the aliens come, the fake
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  Speaker 3: aliens that we've covered before on.
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  Speaker 1: The show exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was a weird. It is kind of
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  Speaker 3: weird being in between villains.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't happen very long at all. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's never it's never long.
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  Speaker 2: But but that was definitely a time where we were like,
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  Speaker 2: who do we hate right now?
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  Speaker 1: Like we don't know the internet?
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  Speaker 3: This is this? Yeah, this is this the bad guys?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you know.
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  Speaker 2: So another thing that happened around the time this book
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  Speaker 2: came out, well after the Korean war started. There were
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  Speaker 2: actually there was a captured American soldier who delivered a
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  Speaker 2: speech on the radio that was just all North Korean propaganda.
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  Speaker 2: But at one point, official estimates put the number of
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  Speaker 2: US soldiers who likely collaborated with the enemy during the
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  Speaker 2: Korean War at one in ten.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot, yeah, but I mean that's the estimate.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's probably inflated by paranoia pretty heavily.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I didn't include it, but right
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  Speaker 2: at the onset of the war, and for a few
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  Speaker 2: years after the estimate was like one in six oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: And it finally over the years they adjusted it to
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  Speaker 2: one in ten, which leads me to believe, man, Koreans
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  Speaker 2: must just talk a really good game.
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  Speaker 1: We must be very persuasive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah, you know, these guys
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  Speaker 3: GI's are going over to a brothel and and maybe
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  Speaker 3: she's just like, yeah, hey, you know, take some take
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  Speaker 3: some fentanyl and fucking listen to listen to me talk about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the means of production and how to seize
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  Speaker 3: it or whatever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There were twenty one American soldiers who refused to return
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  Speaker 2: to the US during the Korean War forty announced that
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  Speaker 2: they'd become communists.
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  Speaker 1: That's sixty one people. How many.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of people that didn't come back
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  Speaker 2: as communists.
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  Speaker 3: That's like a that's a pretty goddamn small number, But
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  Speaker 3: that's that's.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty indicative of how American policy works. Like, that's the
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  Speaker 2: war on terror right now. Like yet nine to eleven
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  Speaker 2: put up good numbers, but it's also good numbers.
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  Speaker 1: It's the wrong way to say it. Yeah, they racked
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  Speaker 1: up some stats. Yeah, nine to eleven. They got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of you know, banners hanging the rafters. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: beyond that, attacks like that in this country are very,
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  Speaker 1: very very rare, but they also are driving our entire
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  Speaker 1: global policy right now.
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  Speaker 3: It is just as a few and you know, a dude,
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  Speaker 3: you know, at a mall or a school, just like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mancherian candidate, like we said, also was a nineteen
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  Speaker 2: sixty two film starring Frank Sinatra. Huge flop, like it
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  Speaker 2: didn't do well, but it was also hugely controversial in
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  Speaker 2: Eastern Europe. Most countries there didn't get it until after
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  Speaker 2: the collapse of the Soviet Union because of what it
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  Speaker 2: was portraying, which yes, yeah, communism trying to infiltrate.
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  Speaker 1: Being evil, Like they wouldn't let you show any of
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  Speaker 1: that show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the film includes an assassination scene, and there was
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  Speaker 2: concern at the time that it might inspire someone to
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  Speaker 2: try the same thing in real life. JFK was assassinated
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  Speaker 2: a year later in real life.
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  Speaker 3: These these you know, these conspiratorial movies, at them they
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  Speaker 3: get through to our kids. Yeah, just really it moves
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  Speaker 3: the culture backwards.
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  Speaker 2: They It's also rumored that he was a fan of
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  Speaker 2: the book and intervened on behalf of the filmmakers to
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  Speaker 2: try and get the movie made.
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  Speaker 1: That's creepy. That is creepy. Even creepier.
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  Speaker 2: Director John Frankenheimer was with Bobby Kennedy the night he
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  Speaker 2: was killed.
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  Speaker 3: That that's only not creepy to me because he was
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  Speaker 3: in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was at the Beverly Hills. And it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: every every director, every everyone wanted.
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  Speaker 3: A piece of that that whole JFK like intervening and
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  Speaker 3: like being a proponent for making that movie. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: is that the president's way of like committing suicide by cop?
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  Speaker 3: Is that his way of like showing up with his
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  Speaker 3: hand in his pocket? You know, like pretending it's a
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  Speaker 3: gun at the police station. I'm shirt.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to live anymore.
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of the background on the term Manchurian candidate.
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  Speaker 2: So now let's talk about Trump and Russia, because a lot, lot,
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  Speaker 2: lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot to cover when it comes to Trump.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like there's so much shit it is hard
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  Speaker 3: to suss out a through point and a meaning and
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  Speaker 3: a verdict. You know. Yeah, it's kind of a cacophony
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  Speaker 3: of just a billion little things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really a litmus test for me and
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  Speaker 2: Trump supporters. Like if if you get a Trump supporter
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  Speaker 2: to say, oh, yeah, man, this Russia thing is nothing
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  Speaker 2: that you have a disciple on your hands. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: there's no one in the world who shouldn't be kind
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  Speaker 2: of concerned, oh certain about Trump's ties to Russia, with the.
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  Speaker 1: Whole Russia thing.
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  Speaker 3: I also, I just don't think you also should not
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  Speaker 3: discount the fact that America is stupid enough to elect Trump,
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  Speaker 3: right like this is like this, I mean, they did
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  Speaker 3: something and they're trying to help, you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: it fairly clearly, But it's like we also are just
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  Speaker 3: fucking goons exactly like, let's not forget, let's not lose
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  Speaker 3: sight of that.
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  Speaker 1: That might be the bigger issue. Yeah, we're not We're
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  Speaker 1: not a thinking people.
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  Speaker 3: I was just in Muscogee, Oklahoma. Oh boy, I went
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  Speaker 3: to one of the walmarts, and just what mountain dew
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  Speaker 3: does to a gene pool is fucking astonishing. I was
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  Speaker 3: just oh wow, I didn't know Velveta made an anti freeze.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was just like these lauval just Larry
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the cable guy presents floor mats.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: You know, mountain dew really becomes a dividing point in
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: a person's life. Like if you carry on drinking mountain
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: dew regularly into adulthood, something probably went like I was
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: like a little askew in near path.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I see why people like have five kids by the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: time of the twenty fives, because when they turn twenty five,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: they become a physical embodiment of a nightmare. Like everybody
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: just they age like avocados, where it's just like all right, good, good,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: hot Southern Belt and then.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, like what happened to you?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Like, oh wow, cowboy, cowboy fuck like night shift at
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the gas station just overnight.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, don't discount that we could have elected
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: a foreign agent to be president.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just just probably did of her own dumb ass relition.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's just fucking everybody's got no one's got
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: nothing in this shit, you know.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh so let first let's talk about his
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: cabinet and their ties to Russia.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: We'll just go through.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: There's so many yeah, uh, starting with Michael Flynn. He
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: was a foreign policy advisor and briefly the fucking National
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: security advisor.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for like seventeen days or something like that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he pled guilty to lying to the FBI about
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: his dealings with Russia, and specifically he lied about conversations
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: with Russian Ambassador Saragai Kisliak.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and reports indicate that it was.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: In before he was the Russian ambassador, he was a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Mad magazine sound effect.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: So there are reports that indicate Michael Flynn was in
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: contact with the Trump transition team during this time as well.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And that's basically the crux of the lie there is
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: that he was in contact with Russia and claimed it
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't happening while he was working for the transition team.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: He called Kislyak several times the same day Obama announced
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: sanctions on Russia for meddling in the twenty sixteen election.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It's made several appearances on and received speaking fees from
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Russia Today, which is a news network often described as
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the Kremlins principal international propaganda outlet. And he sat next
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to Putin at the dinner where he received that speaking fee.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Acting Attorney General Sallyate's a career national security official, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Obama himself all warn the Trump administration about Flynn at
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: various points, and they still appointed him national security Like
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that any one of these things alone under any other
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: administration in the past, I think would have really fucking
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: derailed that administration.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Oh tot. I mean not that it's not that it's
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: like on the rails, but I mean there's something about
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the way that Trump handles these things where he's just
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: like he just create It's it's just like he like
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: it's like that old thing about propaganda. It's like exhaust
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: critical thinking and annihilate the truth. It's just like it's
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: so much You're just like, I don't fucking know any more,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: We okay, man, Like it's just it's just every single
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: day and like you don't I don't even know if
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: it's delibered, if it's just a side effect of him
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: being a fucking senile old racist, but I mean it's like, yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: just a bombardment of this ship, and you're just like
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: but by the time you fucking you're done processing like
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: what it means for him to tweet about this and
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: ruin that, and it's like, Okay, yeah, I totally forgot
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: about that guy, you know, the playing both sides of
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the coin on the fucking sanctions issue or whatever.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just imagine, like in the eighties, if Reagan
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: at some point is talking all this anti Russia stuff
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and then it comes out that he's got all of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: these business ties.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: To Russia, people would have flipped the ship.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I stopped watching wrestling because, uh, Nikolai Volkov and Sergeant
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Slaughter I think it was Sergeant Slaughter. It was someone
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: were caught in a limo together on the way to WrestleMania,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and I was like, they're supposed to be enemies. Yeah,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: there's collusion, and they were in a limo doing cocaine
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: together before the first or either first or second WrestleMania,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and I was like, this fake bullshit.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. If only if only America be
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: as deserting as you are with exactly with with your
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: entertainment and your your news sources.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Trump's a wrestler too, basically, yeah, you fucking yeah, that's so.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Paul Manifort, this fucking guy. Have you
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: ever seen the Netflix documentary? Uh? Is it called Get
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Me Roger Stone? Yes, that's a good fucking doubt. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: he was Paul Manifort's like main business partner for a
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: long long time. But Roger Stone hasn't really been caught
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: up in any of this Russia stuff, which is interesting.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Well, Rogers Zone just like it's it's so interesting seeing
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: how far back he got, like just literally back to Watergate.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, he got that list of all the
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: you know, like the financial like entities involved in the
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: very bottom. It's like Roger Stone for like fifty dollars
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: or something. He's like, oh, it's kind of cool, you know. Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: He's like the face of the shadow government basically.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like he's he's just a.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have an official role, but you know, he
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: kind of runs a lot of things.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He's like some kind of like fucking like evil like
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: like imp that shows up on a spawn comic with
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a briefcase who's like, yeah, you want to do you
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: want to make your powers stronger for at the cost
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: of your soul. Like it's like that's his whole vibe.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Paul Manifort for a long time was his, uh,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: one of his main business partners. He was also Manifort
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: was a former Trump campaign chair. He was indicted in
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: October along with his aid Rick Gates, on twelve different counts,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: including conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: being an unregistered agent of a foreign per false and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: misleading Farrah statements which is Foreign Agents Registration Act false statements,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: bank and financial accounts. But Connor, these charges all date
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: back to before he was Trump's campaign share, so it's
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: probably nothing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Oh it's done related.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, completely unrelated. And that is an argument you'll hear
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: from Trump supporters like, well that was before, but still
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it's in his background.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: The ties to Russia are there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't matter if they just formed when he
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: joined Trump's team. It's that all of these people with
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: these past ties all of a sudden joined the team
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: at once. Yeah, you're insane. If you think that's not
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a little weird, voters of America.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It'd be like, I don't know, I've started a Dungeons
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: and Dragons campaign and everybody happens to be a pedophile,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and it's just like, well, I don't know, Well, we
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: touched all those kids before we started the campaign, you know. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: we're we're just trying to clear these uh you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: hobgoblins out of this woman's backyard for a few gold
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: pieces and a dinner at the tavern. Ye and uh
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: oh yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But I mean by that resonant, by that reasoning, anything
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that happened in the past doesn't matter. Yeah, like in
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: any job capacity, Like it would be the same as
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: comedy if we had Cosby on you, because you know
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: he would do this podcast.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The emails, I mean, cause, give it a break. Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you're embarrassed.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you taking the time to type those as
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: a blind person, to just dictate Camille tell the white
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: conspiracy boys that I would like to come out and
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: talk about the chargers against me.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And this is the first time I've ever tried to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: do it a Bill Cosby. It was pretty good.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: As bad as everyone can kind of do a Cosby's.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It's not a small club, you know. It's like all
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: my impressions are not like.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: This is hard, really difficult stuff here. Like it's like
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: like it's they're not tough, so they're effective though.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about George Papadopoulos. He was listed as a
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: foreign policy advisor. When Trump was interviewed by the Washington
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Post during the campaign, he pled guilty to lying to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the FBI as part of a plea deal with Mueller.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Jeff Sessions later testified that he was unaware of any
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: context between Papadopoulos and the Russians. About a week later,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a fucking picture comes out of Papadopolis, Trump, and Sessions
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: all sitting in the meeting, which is a foreign policy meeting,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: where Papadopolis was discussing his Russian contexts.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well I just don't remember, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: like like I understand doing the I don't recall thing like.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Do they have to photograph every meeting? Is that like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: a government law?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I wonder, I mean, I hope, so it probably should
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: be clearly you know, yeah, I mean it's helping out now,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: but I mean definitely, but I mean i'd like, I like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I understand, like that's not as big of a turnoff
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: to me as it did, Like cause I forget all
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like go get in fights with my girlfriend or
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: something and she's like, we did you ever? Was that
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the only time that you did this?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And this is not like I'm cheating or something about, right,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like from what I remember, I mean,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I might. I might two months when
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh shit, that's right, I did, you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: like yeah, blah blah blah blah blah, and uh so yeah,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I understand using that as like a legal defense and
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: like I don't get like that mad at that, but
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Duh, yeah yeah, at least after the pictures come out,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you should at least go.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I remember
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: that now.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: But even after the pictures come out, they're like, nah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: he was just getting his coffee. Like the motherfucker getting
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you coffee doesn't sit at the table, no, Yeah, like
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: they come in and drop that shit off and piece
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the fuck out.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: There's also Donald Trump Junior. He took a meeting in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: June twenty sixteen with a Kremlin linked lawyer who claimed
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to have dirt on Hillary Clinton, two weeks after Dad
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: lockdown the nomination. Now, this is another example of it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: insane to me how blatantly the people tied to this
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: administration will just lie, yeah, and just change their story.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: He told The New York Times that the purpose of
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: this meeting was to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: get that the Trumps aren't dumb per se, but they're
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: also not that smart. No, I think they all they
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: think they're smarter than they are. I can picture Trump
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Junior going into this meeting like, yeah, man, we were
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: seeing what kind of dirt we could get on Hillary Clinton,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and then the interviewer going that's a crime in him
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: going what.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: That's crime?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah joke, yeah, yeah, No, I was there to talk
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: about Russian So yeah, he changed his story three different times.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Well, he had that he like put out those Facebook
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: messages with wiki leaks, which is so funny. It's like
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the Donald Trump Junior page just messaging the wiki leaks page.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Something about that is like you're not even gonna go
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: through some kind of like I don't know email, that's
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: like security, like or anything. You're just just on Facebook Messenger.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: You're gonna talk about this and he's like, yeah, I
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: love it, especially sometime right beforehand would be great.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I would be so skeptical if Wiki Leaks reached out
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to me through traditional communications channel, Oh for sure.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought I'd have to go to like a
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: payphone in the woods. I was like, who put this here?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I'm one hundred miles from a gas stage. There's just
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: a payphone in the woods. Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not friends with but I know the hacker that
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: when Bradley Manning now Chelsea Manning uploaded all that stuff.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I know the hacker who turned that guy in. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to get him on the podcast for
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the lost time and he like won't communicate without using
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: these weird like chat programs that require.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Keys oh yeah, yeah yeah, and encryption.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So like, if fucking wiki Leaks just emailed me, I'd
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: be like, come on, you're not fucking WikiLeaks.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here. Oh yeah, No.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I mean if if mister wiki Leaks, if that business
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: suit with a globe ahead walked up to me like
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: a jack in the box commercial was like, Connor, we
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: have some we have some we have a dossier we
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: want you to disseminate on.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Mean boy, I'd be like, I don't trust you, bro.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Like yeah. Also, three weeks before Trump before election date.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: That's like, that's like talking to the robot devil from Futurama,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Like what the hands I'm gonna have these?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Amazing?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Okay? Great? Uh?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Three weeks before election day, Trump Junior also flew to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Paris to attend a dinner hosted by the Center of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Political and Foreign Affairs. That's a think tank that was
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: started by a wealthy French couple who are super open
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and honest about their business ties to Russia, and the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: think tank also promotes Kremlin policy and ideas and once
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: nominated Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize, which that's adorable.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Very funny.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I think you can just nominate anybody, can't you.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I think so, there you must. I wonder if you
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: have to put money up to do it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a money thing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's just like a vote from a you know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the delegates of the Peace Organization like.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: That somehow lends credibility to it. Like when people are like, oh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I'm on this day site, but I'm on the paid versions.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, everyone's cool.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm on RAA where you have creeps have
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: thirty dollars a month to spend.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Also, yeah, where you have.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: To exaggerate your IMDb credits to get on. I know
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: people that only do like the ones for like famous
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: people or whatever.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. And I'm just like, you're not that famous.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. They let you in that. This seems wrong,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: it really does. Let's talk about Jeff Sessions. He is
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Attorney general.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Still he spoke with Russian Ambassador Seragai kiss Leak twice
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: while still a senator but serving as a surrogate for
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the Trump campaign. This includes a meeting in September at
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: his Senate office.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Quote.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: This is a quote from the Washington Post at the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: height of what US intelligence officials say was a Russian
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: cyber campaign to upend the US presidential race. So that's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: another Russia contact in Trump's cabinet. Jared Kushner, Trump's son
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: in law. He attended that Hillary Clinton dirt meeting with
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the Kremlin lawyer and led the push to fire Komi
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: after he refused to stop the Flint investigation. Russian Ambassador
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Saragai Kissleyak again claims Kushner tried to set up a
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: private back channel with the Kremlin.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah, what do you like, why would
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you need that?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Like any one of these things again should be enough
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: that it's like every voter would be skeptical. I understand
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: a back channel during the Cuban missile christ like, yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: you got it. There's times where it's like, oh yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: we got to have a private line right in, but
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: for just a transition, now, just yeah, that's campaign Like
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: that's like that seems nefarious, Like there's no good reason
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: why that would be the case. But I mean I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: sure like solanse it birthday party, like you know, and it's.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The kind of thing where I don't know how a
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Trump voter explains that kind of thing away, but I'm
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: sure they would.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, just be fake news. Talk to people.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: There's like little there's like little like information tidbits that
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: you can like gravitate to. Like I I was talking
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: to someone about the Russian stuff and he was like, oh,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: but I mean only only like you know, four out
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of the twenty one intelligence agencies have concluded that there's
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: any collusion. It's like like like and that's like whatever
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the number, I forget the exact number. It's true, but
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: that's because the Coast Guard has an intelligence agency and
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: they don't have They didn't launch a Russian investigation like
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: you know, like the Post Office didn't like you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: or whatever these other things. So it's just like, yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I mean that sounds damning on it And then you
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: look into it and you're like, oh no, like the
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: the FBI and the big ones.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Did you know at one point we're six different intelligence
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: agencies all working toward looking into this. Yeah, so people
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: are concerned. People who know more about intelligence and foreign
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: policy than any of us are really fucking concerned. We
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: got three more of the cabinet members to get through
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: carter Page again, once listed by Trump as a foreign
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: policy I mean the campaign. His name sounds like a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: brand of high end, like Toddler clothing. Yeah, like we
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: only shop at carter Page to get Khaki's for any branden.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: He absolutely looks like the guy who on an episode
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: of twenty four the minute he shows up, you're like.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: That's a spy.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that guy is totally.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: The one, Like he's got that. He's just got a
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: squirrely fucking face. Oh yeah, they kind of like smooth cheeked,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: just like tight like little mousey brown hair, just like oh,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like balding, but fine with it. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: put a hat on.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: He worked for Merrill Lynch in Moscow for three years,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: formed a goddamn company in Russia while he was there.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Referred to Russia's takeover of Crimea as a quote so
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: called annexation and openly admitted to meeting with Russian with uh,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that same Russian ambassador during the campaign.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: My so called annexation on TV too.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. There's another guy, Boris e. Fstein, who is
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: another my Skouboorne campaign advisor, special Assistant to the President.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: He also said on Live TV during a CNN interview
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: that Russia quote did not seize Crimea. And the thing
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: is that is the opinion of the Trump administration literally,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and no one else and Russia and Russia and the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: entire rest of it. Yeah, and I didn't put it
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: in the notes. But another thing, a lot of these
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: campaign advisors, This is from an article on esquire dot
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: com called the Trump administrations Russia ties fittingly enough, and
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: they also mentioned in that article during the Republican National Convention.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: When he got the nomination, one of the first things
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: he did was change the Republican platform to include language
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: about Ukraine in Russia and how we shouldn't sanction Russia
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: over what they did in Ukraine. And it's like immediate,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: like day one. Yeah, you're changing, right end, just going
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: to to a softer policy on Russia. Like that also
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: pretty fucking strange.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Also, Rex Tillerson, he struck a deal with This is
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: actually one of the most interesting. He struck a deal
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: with the Russian government to drill in the Russian Arctic
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: in twenty eleven.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: It was like one of the hugest deals ever made,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Like a massive deal, billions of billions and trillions and
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: zillions of dollars.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And then those sanctions that we put in place kept
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Exon from carrying out this deal and they are literally
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: to this day just waiting for those sanctions to be
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: lifted so they can go forward with this deal in Russia. Yeah, like,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that's not that's a huge fucking conflict of interest, even
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: if he's not.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: The CEO anymore. Yeah, it's not like he's the disgraced
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: former CEO. He just quit.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to become our fucking secretary of State.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like change Halliburt and it's the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: same thing. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly the same thing. So
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: and yeah, so just awarded the Russian Order of Friendship,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: where I just I guess they give you like a
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: golden turnip with like a crying woman, you know, like I.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Hope he gave him Robert Craft's super Bowl ring. Yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: remember that when Putin stole Robert craft super Bowl ring.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was pretty amazing, very funny.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about some of Trump's own ties to Russia. Ooh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the too long, I'll tell you that, am I right?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Guys? Hey, so that joke to Bill Maher for fifty
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Trump Tower Moscow. On October twenty eighth,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, he signed a Trump signed a letter of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: intent to build a Trump branded building in Moscow. According
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: to the Washington Post, this was just a few weeks
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: after he appeared on Face the Nation to say, quote,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I think I would probably get along with him very
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: well about Vladimir Putin. Putin returned that in December, calling
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Trump quote a talented person and the absolute leader of
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the presidential race.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: This motherfucker just plays people like there's a great clip
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: of Bush Bush two talking about meeting him and he's
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: like I got a glimpse of his soul, you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: and he just like you know, and he's talking about
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: how like Grady felt like he was and like he
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: could really work with him, and then over time you
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: feel like he lost him to authoritarianism. In that book,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I talk about a lot Bush and chaining with days
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: of fire Bush and chaining in the White House, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, well, we you didn't you didn't hear
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: about those apartment bombings, like you didn't, Like.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I want to meet Putin and just see
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: what kind of like because he's got to be like
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a mystery VH one level pickup artist. Oh yeah, for
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: sure he's getting mystery guy.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Dude. I follow Mystery on Facebook, and if you don't
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: fucking get on it, because he'll just post like I
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: haven't seen my children in years. And then the next
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: day he's like, we're running a pussy grabbing workshop in Belgium.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Me and Bexter are taking reservations. Now learn how to
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: find the dumb hat that unlocks your entered rape potential,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: and it's just it's the funniest fucking shit because it's
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: like I'm it'll be just like sad personal shit. And
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: like there was one that the moment I started following
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: was he's like, I left my big fuzzy hat at
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: a woman's house. He's like, rip, you know, nineteen ninety
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: seven to president or whatever, and I'm just like, no,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: the big fuzzy no, the iconic dumbfuzzers.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: We're gonna buy that in an auction someday.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, Yeah, they're gonna find that shit, like when
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: they found that Declaration of Independence like on the back
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: of a painting in a woman's house.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Putin is so transparently evil, Like, yes, so many bad
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: things about him, but also.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: He's one of those dudes who, like, you see a.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Picture of him on a horse with no shirt and
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: you're like, I wish my president was that cool.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah you do. I mean he's just got he's just
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: got the sauce or a little something called sauce, and yeah,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: you fucking have it or you don't, he's got it.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: We talked about the Russian apartment bombings and we watched
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that video where he walked into U whatever their version
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: of parliament is.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's called parliament. Yeah, And he was doing
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: this it's called parliament with air quotes around him. He
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: was doing this weird walk where he was only moving
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: one arm and someone in the comment said, oh, yeah,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that's a thing in Russia to insinuate that you're carrying
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: a gun. And I was like, that's so dope, that's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: fucking awes.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I would like if Trump did that, I'd be like, okay,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: all right, that's pretty neat.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he doesn't. If he but he's just like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put the nuclear football and a fanny pack
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: with my name on it, you know.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Instead he gets on Air Force one and have you
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: seen that video of his hair. Oh yeah, Like he's
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: got a comb over that starts at the front of
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: his head and goes all the way to the back.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: It's like several folds. Yeah, It's like he folds it
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: over like two or three times.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: It's terrifying. It's so fine to look at.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, the hair, like it's it's the oldest like
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: thing to joke about it. But it's just like I
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: still don't understand mathematically how it works, Like I don't
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: think you could replicate that hair in a laboratory, like
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: you couldn't.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: It is Trump brand hair. Yeah, that like you can
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: get that nowhere else. It's fucking creepy. This was another
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Trump response to Putin's affection. It's always a great honor
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: to be so nicely complimented by a man so highly
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: respected within his own country and beyond. I have always
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: felt that Russia and the United States should be able
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to work well with each other towards defeating terrorism, restoring
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: world peace, not to mention trade and all the other
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: benefits derived from mutual respect. So no, he's got no
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: ties to Russia.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what the fuck? Uh, there's being cordial and then
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: there's like sloppy toppy, you know.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: And there was also that famous MSNBC interview December eighteenth,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. This is another Trump quote. He's running his
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: country and at least he's a leader, unlike what we
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: have in this country. And the person interviewing him ass
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: about Putin killing journalists, and Trump says, I think our
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: country does plenty of killing also, yeah, which that alans
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: a pretty huge problem.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's probably true, but I mean you
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: should know it's one hundred percent you're trying to get
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the job.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: It's like you don't but even even putin lies about it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like he knows better than to be like, yes,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what we do. Tim Dillon is so funny.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: He's a he's a comic gizz a podcast with conspiracy
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: shit too. And he was talking about like the sex scanty,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: the pedophilia in Hollywood and he's like, you know, this
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: goes all the way up to Spielberg. He's like, if
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: it goes all the way up to Peep, He's like,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: come on, cover it up, Like come on, oh, we're
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: losing so much culture. Cover it up, like like you're
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: trying to be the president. Cover it up. Just like
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: at least you know your job. It's it's not your
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: job to talk about that's our job. You're taking away
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: hard working podcasting Russ Belled America jobs, you know exactly.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I do think that first comment the uh, he's running
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: this country and at least he's a leader, and like
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: what we have in this country, that's just clearly him
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: just like dissing out of his ass, like that's yeah, he's.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Just shitting on Obama at that point.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's that's just like he just goes
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: in his grab bag of like fucking controversy and he's
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: just like, yeah, well, at least he's the leader, you know, like,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: you know, at least he doesn't have a black wife.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he said kind of the same
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: thing about Kim Jong un at one point.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I think he did yeah, yeah, well, and like you'd
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: be I think it was almost exactly the same thing was,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: at least he's leading his country.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a fucking guy. So let's talk about Trump. Soho.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: This is a crazy fucking story for starters. It doesn't
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: get much more appropriate than this. It's built on the
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: side of a nineteenth century burial vault of a church
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: known for its abolitionist stance and inclusion of African Americans.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: That's so fucking good. It's so berbick right.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Off the bat.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: It's like the Trump reboot of Poltergeist, where it's built
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: on top of a fucking burial ground.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It was developed by mister Spielberg. You're sharing office space
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: with Jim Bree. I don't understand. He's like, well, yeah,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: they're the floor floor down from us. We like to.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: They like to be close to the action.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: It was developed by a mysterious bunch called the bay
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Rock Group. In a lawsuit, Bayrock's former which great name
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: by the way, bay Rock.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: It's like a like a Baywatch spin off or something
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: bay Rock.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I would have watched the show for.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Sure, and it's just like Tit's bouncing on like you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: like a like Carabineer cord.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Playing the shred and the guitar when they run out
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: to fucking save people.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd watch that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: In a lawsuit, Bayrock's former finance director Jody Chris quote portrait.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Sounds like the guitar is for Bayrock. Yeah, exactly, Jody Chris.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: This is from that lawsuit. Quote portrays the firm as
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: a money laundering operation used to conceal transfers of illicit
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: funds and disguise them as legitimate real estate transactions. He
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: also alleges that cash infusions from overseas were fraudulently portrayed
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: as loans to help the firm's principles evade taxes.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yikes.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another quote from that same lawsuit. Tax
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: evasion and money laundering are the core of bay Rock's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: business model.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: That's on the bottom of the website.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: You know, our mission states taxivasion of money laundering are
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the core of bay Rock's business model. I mean, yeah,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: there are.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Like it's funny they did.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I saw a thing on the news with it youse,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: like some of these shell companies, and you look at me, like,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: this is just in like a weird like out of
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: the way strip mall in Ohio. Like it's just like
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: a little business park, and it's like there's an office
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: there where they just like fucking clean up like the
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: sketchy money and they just kind of disseiminate that all
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: through all throughout the world. And you know, it's just
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: like this very nondescript as plays like it looks like
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the kind of place where i'd walk in to go
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: do morning radio for a gig in East Washington.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, there's a lot of shit like that. Have
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: you watched the Netflix series Dirty Money. No, there's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: really good episode about money laundering.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: It's actually the only documentary that's that's a parody of
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a porn.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: So the h Muller team is reportedly focusing on the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Trump Soho project and money laundering in the New York
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: City real estate market in general, as part of the
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Russian investigation. Trump meanwhile announced the project on the fifth
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: season of The Apprentice in two thousand and six, because
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: of course he fucking did. Of course we would play
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: the video. But we're down a computer right now, which
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: is also why we haven't streamed anything in a good
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: long while.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: But that's getting fixed this week. Hell yeah, I wonder why.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I wonder why our computers are going down, Adam, we're
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: being de dosed by.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I think we are. At least that top computer in here.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: It woke up one day and was like light internetwork
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: only please, yea yea yeah, And that's what we were
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: recording on up to that point. So we're getting it fixed.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: So this idea for Trump SOHO was presented to him
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: by the bay Rock Group and the Supior Organization. Bayrock
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: was founded by two Soviet born immigrants, god damn it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: immigrants to a Reef and Felix Satr. The Supior Organization
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: was founded by Soviet born financier Tamir Sapir and his
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: son Alex. Remember this is all happening at a time
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: when Trump literally cannot get financing in the United States. Oh,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: he's filed bankruptcy the COT so many times. Yeah, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden they come to him with this deal.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And this was reported by The New York Times in
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: September fifteenth or September twenty fifteen. This is Felix Sator
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: in an email to Michael Cohen, the Trump Company vice president,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: and Helix Sater is one of the founders of the
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Bay Rock Group.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: This is a quote.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I will get Putin on this program and we will
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: get Donald elected.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: We both know.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: No one else knows how to pull this off without
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: stupidity or greed getting in the way. I know how
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to play it, and we will get this done. Buddy,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: our boy can become president of the USA and we
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: can engineer it. I will get all of Putin's team
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to buy in on this.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But please tell me more about how there's no collusion yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: with Russia to get Trump elected.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: That is so it's just like I saw someone had
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: a good take on it where he's like, we've gotten
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: like two or three emails like from the Trump campaign
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and they are comically incriminating. And then there's like thousands
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: of Hill or emails with her just like wishing people
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: happy birth.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, it's nuts, Like there's so much
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: evidence that something is a miss. Even if Trump is
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: being played unwittingly, it's still a huge fucking problem.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe that's it. Maybe someone just needs to
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: sit him down and go, well, you're being played and
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: it needs to be someone who uh he believes and
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: maybe the country will be fine after that. I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: it's fucking no. The thing of like he's just like
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: you watch some of those cabinet meeting clips that they'll
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: play of just everyone just like taking turns, sucking his dick,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: like your vision and blah blah blah. And it's just
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: like with regard like that is not good for a
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: human being to have no yes men around you, like
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: if you know, even with the ship that you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: the podcasting or whatever. I'm just like, I want people
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: that are gonna be like that sucks. Yeah, you want
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: to you want no men. You want people that are like, hey,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: that's a terrible idea. You're gonna look industry, oh for sure.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No matter what you're doing, you never want a
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: person at the top who has no one questioning their decisions.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: No like it's always a bad thing. So let's talk
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: about the twenty thirteen Miss Universe pageant. I guess I
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: didn't realize this is where all of the the p
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: tape dossier stuff happened. Yeah, and in twenty thirteen, Trump
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: was paid twenty million dollars to host the Miss Universe
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: pageant because.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: All the birther stuff. When did the birtherer stuff go down?
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: That was earlier.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I think it was like I believe, oh, nine, no, ten,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: like some.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right after he kind of took off because I
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: remember buying a T shirt when Obama finally released his
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: birth certificate. His campaign sold T shirts with his actual
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: birth certificate on it. Oh that's fine, And I remember
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: buying one and it was when I lived in South Dakota,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: so it had to be pre twenty twelve at least.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Cause it's like once that happened
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: and you get he got roasted at the Correspondence dinner,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like that's what lit the You don't know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: you don't know if this notion had metastasized in his head.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: But even so, I mean, he was still doing stupid
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: shit even after he had run for presidents. I mean,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much he was like thinking about this,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: right sure, Like you know, he's like, oh yeah, I've
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: got all these Howard Stirring interviews just where I'm talking
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: about pussy or whatever, and uh, it's just funny that
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: he's just like, Okay, you know, two years later or whatever,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: maybe in twenty fifty he's going to declare his candidacy.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And it's just you weren't like you'd already registered make
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: American Great Again dot com as a trademark or whatever,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: like yeah, you didn't think that. You thought that nobody
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: was gonna know what was going on here, Like you know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: you could the other shit. You could be like that's
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the eighties, you know, but this is is twenty thirteen.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: It's the new stuff. Yeah, yeah, this is like Snapchat
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: was around, like this is recent that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Fee and his alleged conduct behind closed doors at this
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: event are apparently also a focus of the Russian investigation
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: for Starters. In an interview he gave during the event
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: from his hotel room, when he was asked if he
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: had a relationship with Putin, he said, quote, I do
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: have a relationship with him nice, which he has since said,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I barely know the guy, so which one is it?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: He's on record saying both.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Him bringing the pageant to Moscow was orchestrated during a
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: meeting between Trump's top Miss Universe executive Paula Schugert and
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: European pop star a Mean Agallarov, whose dad is a
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Russian real estate mogul named Alex Agalarov.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I really think, if you like, by colluding with a
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: country full of like names that we don't often see,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: it's like no one's ever gonna be able to keep
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: all these characters straight, you know, Yeah, no one's ever
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: gonna get be able to just do you know, wait,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: was Kissleek the Pops the model or was he pop Medopolis?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: That's that's a kind of Greek yogurt.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like, you know, yeah, it's it almost
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: seems like the same kind of strategy where there's so
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: much Russia news where we're just like, okay, it's too much,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: let's just stop talking.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: You've got to you've got to memorize eighty five alien
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: ass syllables and their and their roles to like make
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: any sense of it.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: In an interview with Forbes, Agallarov claimed Schugert agreed to
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the twenty million dollars right away and said the Trump
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: organization needed the money because, quote, you have a lot
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: of debts.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Hmmmm.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: His publicist, a britt named Rob Goldstein, was the man
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: who first contacted Trump Junior about the meeting to deliver
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: sensitive info on Hillary Clinton.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Rob Goldstone, how was that the name? He fucked up?
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, what did I say? You said, Goldstein?
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Bit, Well, zionist conspiracy. You're internalized.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just reaching for that in the We're just
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: heading in that direction always on this show kind.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Of what is the jew phobe? Is there a jeamophobic?
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Isn't there like because there's like, you know, Zlamophobia or
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: like homophobia. Isn't an anti Semitism? Yeah, yeah, that's probably
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: what it is. Yeah, I was thinking there was a
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Bleblama flow to flow for it.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: It probably is.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: It's the scariest time of day for the conspiracy the
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: show team ten in the morning, guys, So I am
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: not sharp.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I apologize.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Prior to the twenty thirteen Moscow pageant, this was a
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: tweet from Trump and I saw this recently and thought
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: it was fake.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because you see that, and like sometimes they
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: just retweets some of the old twenty twelve stuff and
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: you're like, for the love of God, like.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is a tweet from right before the pageant.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Do you think Putin will be going to the Miss
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Universe pageant November in Moscow? If so, will he become
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: my new best friend?
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: He tweeted that it's not even like fun like fun,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: like what, it's that it sounds desperate. None of this
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: sounds weirdy. Yeah, it's just a weird thing to say,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Like it's like I'm going to New York
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: in April, where Howard Stern be my BF, Like what,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: That's a.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Great way to make sure they won't be your BFF. No,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: And sure.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Enough he's immediately like subjugating yourself to like bitch status
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: with that, right, you know.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And Putin did make plans to meet with him and
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: then canceled. Uh dude, I bet he always planned on canceling.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Just question.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would hope so.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: And but here was another Trump quote from a twenty
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: fifteen radio interview. I was with the top level people,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: both oligarchs and general and generals and top of the
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: government people. I can't go further than that, but I
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: will tell you that I met the top people and
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: the relationship was extraordinary for fuck's sake.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, top of the government people, top of the government,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Like who of the government?
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: To you? Who phrases it like that? Senior officials? Dude,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Like he doesn't he and I do this too, but
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I'm I just more articulate. He never knows where any
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: sentence is going when he starts no, no, every word
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: is a fresh decision, you.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Know, it's a fucking journey when he starts talking.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and what kills me is now if he just
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: comes out and says, no, I have no ties to
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Russia at all, there's still gonna be a significant like
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: his bass, which is still around forty percent something like that, Yeah,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: there's still gonna be like, Okay, he said there's no ties.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: And even though he said on a radio interview that
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: he met with all the top people and that they
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: had a really good relationship, he was just joshing on
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: the radio.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Is wrong with you people?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: It's really well, it's at a point where it's just
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: like they've poisoned the well so thoroughly and successfully that
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: they're just not gonna buy anything with the whole fake
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: news branding.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: And just.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: You know, like trying to make every story that breaks
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: seems seem like, oh, it's just clickbait or whatever. It's like, well, yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: some of it is, and you kind of got to
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: it out and takes a little bit of work and
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: critical thing, and it's just like there's a there's a
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: group of people and I don't even necessarily blame them.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I do, but it's just.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Like you get exhausted and you just don't you want
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: to You want to trust somebody, You want to have
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: a yeah, have a dad in this shit. You want
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: to like be able to believe somebody. And just like
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I'm on that team. That's easier than being like, well
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I feel this way about this, and that we're like
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: oh whatever he says, he's fine for me. You know.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing as fake news, where
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: people have taken fake news to be oh well I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: don't agree with that, so that's fake news.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Anytime there's a compelling headline attached to compelling information, again,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: that whole base is just gonna.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Be like clickbait.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is not what clickbait means, you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: it's just clickbait means we put mentos in a fucking
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: sprite container and.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: You won't believe what happened next.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you're like, is it the same thing
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: that happens with the coke, because yeah, I get it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: You could just tell me that.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: But it's like it's like so unbelievable that they forget.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: That's sometimes these things are true, right, you know. It's
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: it's such a bomb so many bombastic accusations are being made.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: People are just like, well, of course, there's no way,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: and it's just like, well, yeah, like yes, like and
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: there is a way. It did.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: We're getting to the point we're gonna do an episode
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: really soon about deep fakes.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Do you know what those are? It's AI generated porn.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a basketball move.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: It's that too, but it's AI generated porn where you
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: can put pretty much any celebrity in porn videos and
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: it looks very realistic. Really, I feel like that's gonna
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: start becoming big news and then the pe tape will
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: come out and Trump will be like, eh, deep fake.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: That's fucking crazy, dude.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: That's very interesting.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's a thing like that Reddit just
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: banned that whole sub subreddit that was about deep fakes, okay,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: and the technology is fucking crazy. If there's a video
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, I'll include it when we talk about it
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: on the podcast. But it's basically there's one video as
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Bush and there's another one I think is Putin, and
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the screen, it's just a
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: dude talking and everything he says it looks like Bush
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Bush or Putin's mouth moves in that exact way. So
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: from there, if you just get a convincing voice actor, yeah,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: you can make anything look like a real video.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: That's pretty wild.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: And I feel like it takes me back to middle
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: school where I'd printed out a like I'd arrange all
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: of these pictures on a like a Microsoft word page
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and printed them out of just Laura Propan but like
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: from that seventies show.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: But it was just like a lot of fake nights
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: of Laura Papon.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize we're fake, and I just I printed
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: those out so I could go look at them in
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: my room.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Like so this is deep roots, dude.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: But it's during the Miss Universe pageant where the P
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: tape is alleged to have happened that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you right now, that deep fixed thing
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and the P tape that is one of the best
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: ATV Hail Mary calls, of which there have been a lot.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like it could happen.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: You're you're you got a good for this ship man,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: and I really think that's going down.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could, because it's he's gonna have to come
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: up with a way to if that video ever comes out,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have to come up with a way to
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: discredit it. He can't for his bass.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: You can't just have a video of you getting pissed
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: on come out and then resign in disgrace.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: You got to make a move, you know.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like even if it's just putting out another album
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: like R Kelly did. Yeah, you exactly have to react
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: in some way. You can't just you can't just take
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: that on the chin. That's a tough one, man, Not
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: like they took it on the chin. Oh the piss
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I mean yah, all right, we do good work around here, man.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Those those women made what a year's worth of Patreon
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: to do that? Two years.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Uh. There's also reportedly more tapes of Trump at sex
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: parties in the town of the city of Saint Petersburg
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: in Russia from that same time.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: And all of this hat Petersburg.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: And all of this is included in the Steel Dossier,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: which buzz was the first one to publish.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: So weird that that's like a legitimate news.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: BuzzFeed is doing good stuff. Like BuzzFeed was the only
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: news outlet to come out and be like, hey, stop
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: acting like Kim Jong UN's sister is a good person
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: because she threw shade to Mike Pence. It's like, yeah,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: they run gulags. Oh yeah, everyone lives on like hard
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: tack and fucking promises in that entire country.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: It's so weird.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: And now even with some of these like media institutions,
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you got to be like, okay, so like the Wall
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Street Journal, the editorial page is evil, but the investigative
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: reporting they do is good, and you've got to like
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: make these distinctions and really realize what you're looking at.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: And it's just a lot, you know, yeah, you almost
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: want a cheat sheet with like some kind of like
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: score or whatever. And it's like but even then, like
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: like organizations like Snopes, which you think is like this
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: great libertarian like arbiter of like what actually happened, And
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: it's great for shit like is this actually a picture
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: of his dude getting his head cut off and when
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: he tried to jump off the building and land that offence.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: But it's like with with shit like this, it's like
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: it becomes just as partisan as anything else.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah's absolutely gonna do. Yeah.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: We we tend to put a lot of Whenever there's
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory or some sort of not mainstream idea
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: that comes out, we tend to really lean on, well,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: is that a credible source? But then when someone debunks
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that thing, we pay no attention to whether that's a
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: credible source. It's just like, oh, well this blogger fucking
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: debunked it, so yeah that's fake. And it's like, no,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: that motherfucker's as wrong as anyone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: it uh. And this is I don't know, like I
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: feel like this is an easy one to answer. Is
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Trump under the influence of a foreign government?
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I mean campaign.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it's like, to what extent and to it,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: to what ends and all that stuff. I mean, it's
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: in the breeze a little bit, but it seems pretty
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: very really pretty reasible to conclude like going on you know.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing about this one thing I had
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: in the notes, A lot of mainstream out let's are
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: pushing this idea. Like normally, if you google Manchurian candidate Trump,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get like.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Geo cities pages and ship like that.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: And this is like Huffington Post, New York Times, Salon
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: dot Com, the Atlantic Daily cos is that how you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: pronounced that Daily Coast?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: That's always not a good site.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I read it. No, Yeah, it's very sloppily written.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Also, Moby is how do we feel about Moby is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: gonna die of a fentanyl overdose in like six months?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Sure? Absolutely, And it's gonna be because some.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Uh c I A dude just slapped a patch on
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: the back of his neck at an airport. Yeah, manager
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: is gonna have to I regret to inform you Mobis.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: And Moby has succumbed to uh aggressive onset gay itis
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: uh as. We still don't know how you contracted the disease.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Like, but he's he's been. He did a radio interview.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: He's kind of it's kind of like the like the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: like the like the more uh atmospheric Tom DeLong some stuff.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: He's like the along of Trump stuff.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And he claims he knows CIA agents
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and FBI people who he's met during his year's touring.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: And then at one point last year they sat him
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: down and were like, look, Trump is a Manchurian candidate.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Can you get some of this information out there? Obviously
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: your social media following is better than ours, which how
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: crazy would that be if our CIA agents were all
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: like celebrities?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Also, that would be funny. Yeah remember titter account?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. And it was just this where he
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: just followed like his son in law, and he just
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: like he like responded to a few things like well
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: if that's the like, he was just being like a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: cunt on Twitter, just like anybody else would be. It
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: was that shit was so funny. And as a as
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: a guy whose mom was a yoga teacher in the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: late nineties and early two thousands, you better believe I'm
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I'm on Moby's fucking team, dude.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: All right, damn right.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: We rocked out to all that shit all the time
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: in the fucking Toyota Camray.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: That shit was great.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: And before Trump supporters jump in and call us crazy
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: for even bringing this up or addressing the idea. In
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, there was a editorial on Breitbart that pretty
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: much the exact same question of Obama, but the grounds
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: for asking it were much shakier. Yeah, it was just like, oh,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: there's Muslims here and China's doing good, and it's like,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: you need to specify a government he's beholden too before
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: that theory works. Yeah, but what I certainly didn't see
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: is a lot of anti Obama types in the comments
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: on bright Bart going.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Come on, this is unreasonable.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: You won't see a whole lot of that.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: So we're getting into a fight with a guy in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: ninth grade about it. Just he's like Obama's a Muslim,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: and I was just like, dude, I'm like barely not eleven,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't think he's a Muslim, you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: fucking idiot.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I was eleven so recently.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's the Trump is a Manchurian candidate episode.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I buy it.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if it's not not the whole brainwashing
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna assassinate someone bit the influence of a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: foreign government, I think it's very clearly there.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: He's under a few thumbs.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd argue we have more compelling evidence in this
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: episode than most episodes we do.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And like, what are the conclusions? I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, there's so many good lack America.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: There's so many pieces of yarn and thumb tacks. It's like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: I don't I'm not contend I'm smart enough for they're
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: educated enough to know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's the kind of thing we
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: just sort of have to see where it's going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, thank god, these people are like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: getting still writing about this even in the wake of
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  Speaker 3: zillions of death threats and all these fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah is it about?
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  Speaker 3: Is this actually a guy with a you know, like
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  Speaker 3: an anthrax refinery and his shed in Mississippi?
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's fucking crazy, so crazy. Uh So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's Week one of Mind Control Month. Oh what another lighthearted,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: fun month.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. This is a subscription only episode,
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  Speaker 2: so thank you for listening subscribers. Yeah, next week we're
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  Speaker 2: we're doing an episode about MK Ultra. It's kind of
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: a two part episode. We're doing one episode about Ultra.
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  Speaker 2: Then the week after that we're reviewing the Wormwood documentary. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which how much of it have you watched yet?
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  Speaker 1: About a third of the way through. Yeah, it gets
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: really good at the end.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's interesting shit, guys. Yeah, I think I think
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: the conspiracy the show fans will dig it.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: And then we're we're finishing out mind Control month with
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: an episode about Harp, which is it's gonna be interesting.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be fun. I had to do some
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: web sleuthing while researching that dude, Adam. Adam is dressed
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: in all black.
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  Speaker 3: He's wearing a truck or hat like his eyes like
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: are dilated fully like, you know, this is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a good content, gang.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on math. What do we have to plug before
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: we get out of here?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going on tour all over the place in April, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking Milwaukee, Chicago, fucking Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Pennsylvania. No,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's also Pittsburgh. Philadelphia is the one New York
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: city and tickets for that are all up on Mean
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  Speaker 3: Boys podcast dot com. And if the tickle link isn't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: live in your town yet, they all should be. The
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: time this drops, just jump on the email list and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: you'll be the first now nice. Oh and headline of
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  Speaker 3: the Ontario probably March twentieth, Adam's birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Happy birthday to me.
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  Speaker 3: I am going out on tour with chat Wilde starting
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: in May. Oh yeah, so we will have dates for
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: that really soon. We're gonna have like a three day
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: window to record two months worth of podcast.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to record on the road somewhere.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have to. I did a Galla was
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: on the road with a podcast. She skyped in for
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: a podcast, like using the Wi Fi from a diner
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: in Claremore. Oh wow, and uh yeah it works great.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: So we'll have to figure something out. Yeah I've done
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: that a few times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be fine. All right, let's get the fuck out
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  Speaker 2: of here. Connor say goodbye.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Goodbye everybody. Goodbye everybody.
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  Speaker 3: We love you.