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Alex Goligoski and Devan Dubnyk came to play: Ovechkin's Gr8 Chase, Rantanen trade watch and Chalamet's big speech. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: We are back here on NHL Unscripted. This would be
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  Speaker 2: great episode all right, Episode thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: Vika Devers, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: It was always to NHL on I Heard podcast. JD's
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  Speaker 2: already a little sour. He's in Montreal right now recording
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  Speaker 2: this late at night, but he's always loyal to the
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  Speaker 2: cause first and foremost to all those who are watching
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  Speaker 2: Amazon Pride mon Night Hockey, as was Jason Demurz. I
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  Speaker 2: promised that biz Nasty was going to join us here
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  Speaker 2: in the pocket. He's going on coast to coast with
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  Speaker 2: any Petrillo on Thursday, but biz Nasty inter reschedule.
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  Speaker 1: He will come back with us another time. We have
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  Speaker 1: a great episode.
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  Speaker 2: Alice Goolagoski, close friend of Jason Demurz, played a thousand
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  Speaker 2: games NHL, has great stories not only but his own career,
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  Speaker 2: but also Marc Andre Fleury and Phil Kessel. Devin Dubnick
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  Speaker 2: an old buddy of ours, a teammate of jd's't the
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  Speaker 2: Spangler Cup for Canada, but also teammate of ours at
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  Speaker 2: NHL Network. He talks about I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: want to tease it. It may not make the cut corn
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  Speaker 2: to tell, but he's going to talk about goaltending. I
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  Speaker 2: can tell you the NHL today, and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: fascining to listen to. Before we get to that, though,
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  Speaker 2: I get a surprise for you. I travel so much
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  Speaker 2: now with Amazon. People are surprised with this because how
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  Speaker 2: much I love movies. But I said, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: like to watch movies on planes. I'm one of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to watch it at home or watch it
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  Speaker 2: in theater. I don't want to be aout playing the
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  Speaker 2: small screen demers. Just watched six movies in three cross
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  Speaker 2: country flights. I don't want jour number two there.
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  Speaker 1: What I do is this. I read.
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  Speaker 2: I tracked if I read, and I said to myself,
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  Speaker 2: because you don't pay attention to others.
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  Speaker 1: You're so vain and self absorbed. We don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Tal Pinchewski casually mentally written a book. So I went
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  Speaker 2: on Amazon and I bought Breakaway from Behind the Iron
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  Speaker 2: Curtain to the NHL, The Untold Story of Hockey's Great Escapes.
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  Speaker 2: And I bought Tal's book and I just finished it.
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  Speaker 2: I made a power read to Winnipeg. And back from Winnipeg.
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  Speaker 2: How many ever seen it? Tean trying to Winnipeg. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is a book with just two or in sixty
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  Speaker 2: four pages.
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  Speaker 3: You read though in two flights.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I fly you.
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  Speaker 3: Are you like a speed reader? Are you like the.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm fixing on something, I'm a little bit obsessive,
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  Speaker 1: much like my movie Watch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to fish on. I'm finishing taws book.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take four hours, Like no, I'll get the hotel.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta fish this book before I go to bed,
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  Speaker 2: Like why did you step till to me?
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  Speaker 4: Am?
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  Speaker 2: I had to finish tal Pinchewski's book. I want to
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  Speaker 2: know more about Peter Klima.
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  Speaker 1: Now I want to read this part too, specifically because
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  Speaker 1: it's about I wish you were before you get into that.
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  Speaker 5: I wish you'd be more obsessive about promoting this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second. Here's one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite parts. And then for those certain and you
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  Speaker 2: should all read the book?
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  Speaker 6: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Talk about it? And I don't. I can't believe how
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  Speaker 1: much research you did. This is insane. The amount of
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  Speaker 1: people you talk to like it. It reads like a thriller,
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  Speaker 1: especially the Stassins, Peter claim out like horrifying, and Jed
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  Speaker 1: you can speakcause you played in Russia. You know what
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  Speaker 1: it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, times with Fatisa trying to leave, Victor tiking off
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  Speaker 2: and all this stuff, and I casually about buttal talk
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  Speaker 2: to all these people. Love the quotes from my buddy
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  Speaker 2: Ken Danico, but I need to focus on this specifically
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  Speaker 2: because this will appreciate both of you guys being Montreal guys.
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  Speaker 1: This is page one thirty four. Given the agents following
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  Speaker 1: the Czechoslovakian national team, so Boda would have to find
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  Speaker 1: the right time to spare it the twenty one year
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  Speaker 1: old Volac.
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  Speaker 2: Away David Vola course remember him from the Rangers. He
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  Speaker 2: would also to find a dark, central location where this
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  Speaker 2: clandestine meeting wouldn't allouse too much suspicion. The best place
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  Speaker 2: of what I could find was a popular downtown strip
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  Speaker 2: club named Shaye Pyrie. It was a popular place, especially
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  Speaker 2: in the eighties. What would have elapse and still now wow,
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  Speaker 2: Well before.
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  Speaker 5: I comment on shape Pray which you know, me filming
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  Speaker 5: this pod so so late, I can't even go there
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  Speaker 5: and get their famous you know ten pm steak. But again,
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  Speaker 5: tall great research and once again, if the research was
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  Speaker 5: this thorough for this podcast, we would be top in
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  Speaker 5: the country right now. So fantastic work by both of you.
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  Speaker 3: I love it all Right.
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  Speaker 2: We just got back from the road, which is a
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  Speaker 2: Winnipeg Jets game. I want to ask you about the Sharks.
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  Speaker 2: If we don't talk enough about the Sharks and you
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  Speaker 2: cover the game, you work for the team, your former Shark.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, buddy, watching that team and I'm
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  Speaker 2: expecting everyone's cat calling.
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  Speaker 1: And going, oh my god, here we go. Sharks versus Jets.
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  Speaker 2: Shark's fewest points in the NHL, the Jets at the
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  Speaker 2: second most of the time, your Sharks played a sound,
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  Speaker 2: defensive game.
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  Speaker 1: Fan of check was great. Celebrating is such a joy
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  Speaker 1: to watch out there one nothing lead, unfortunately Josh Morrison
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  Speaker 1: and fortunate for the Sharks. Josh Worts scores twenty six
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  Speaker 1: seconds left, jetson winning it overtime. But good fight from
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  Speaker 1: your Sharks. I get we are talking abou all NHL teams,
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  Speaker 1: Drew on this podcast. I like seeing a team fighting
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  Speaker 1: even though they have nothing left to fight for.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I hope it continues past the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 5: You know you have a lot of guys that are
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  Speaker 5: probably you know, sought after by a lot of teams
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  Speaker 5: in the league that are looking at some depth pieces.
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  Speaker 5: So you know you're hoping that continues post trade deadline,
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  Speaker 5: and guys you know that have been very good soldiers.
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  Speaker 5: And the one thing I'll say about this team is
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  Speaker 5: notice complain. They haven't said boo. They've worked their ass
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  Speaker 5: off a night in and night out, and they haven't
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  Speaker 5: got the results they've wanted to get and have hoped for.
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  Speaker 5: But there's a lot to like, and they're trying to
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  Speaker 5: build a culture here of at least work ethic and
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  Speaker 5: knowing that the wins will come. But man, it's tough
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  Speaker 5: when you start finding ways to lose versus finding ways
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  Speaker 5: to win. It's such a fine line in the NHL.
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  Speaker 5: And it's tough because I've been on those teams where
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  Speaker 5: you just can't find a way.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, what the hell, what's going on?
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  Speaker 5: We're doing everything right, and the hockey gods reward us
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  Speaker 5: plays plays almighty reward us, and he does not.
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  Speaker 3: He casts you asunder night in and night out.
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  Speaker 5: So I feel for them, and I've been there, done that,
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  Speaker 5: and I've also been on the teams where you you
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  Speaker 5: literally could go not piss a drop and win a
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  Speaker 5: game because you're just the confidence is so high and
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  Speaker 5: you guys all believe you're going to win. So it's
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  Speaker 5: really a mindset shift and hopefully these guys can find it.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, they're exciting to watch. They work hard.
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  Speaker 5: I know you watch that game. I watched it. They
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  Speaker 5: play hard, they work hard. They led for what fifty
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  Speaker 5: six minutes of that game? Fifty seven minutes something like that,
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  Speaker 5: And it's just closing out games. It's like the last
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  Speaker 5: thing they got to learn is closing out games.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know how.
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  Speaker 5: Many games this season where they've been up in the
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  Speaker 5: third period and have kind of blown it and you know,
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  Speaker 5: chalk it up to the lucky unlucky bounces and they
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  Speaker 5: just can't find a way. But yeah, there's there's there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot to like. There's a lot of bright spots
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  Speaker 5: in this team, and I think those young guys are
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  Speaker 5: really starting to pick it out of the mclin's Brine's
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  Speaker 5: a stud.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to your comedy about Adam Fox, which went viral,
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  Speaker 2: particularly here in the New York City area, But one
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  Speaker 2: thought here on the Jets. I want to get your
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  Speaker 2: opinion on they won ten in a row. They're making
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  Speaker 2: a run for the President's Trophy. We all, no one
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  Speaker 2: will remember this team unless they actually go deep in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs and hell a Buck exercises his playoff demons.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you this. Our buddy, Thomas Sicky
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  Speaker 1: said during the game, and I'm not a fan of
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  Speaker 1: this guy. Has to sit down with him. Josh Morris.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great dude. Do you think Morris he's a
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  Speaker 1: top ten defense from right now in hockey?
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  Speaker 5: Ooh, that's tough. I honestly, man, that's a tough one.
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  Speaker 5: It's hard to say. I think he's right on the
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  Speaker 5: cusp of it. If not the number ten spot, I
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  Speaker 5: think there's a lot of guys at the number ten spot.
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  Speaker 5: Me being as politically correct as possible.
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  Speaker 3: I love the kid.
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  Speaker 5: I played with him at World Championships, nice and funny
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  Speaker 5: enough that tournament. I was playing more minutes than him,
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  Speaker 5: and now I'm like, so he's getting so much better
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  Speaker 5: than me. We would have won that term, even though
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  Speaker 5: we lost and shootout if he was playing more minutes.
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  Speaker 5: But he's he's a great team and he looks so effort,
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  Speaker 5: listen for not being a big guy, battles so hard,
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  Speaker 5: He's got a bomb of a shot, and plays heavy
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  Speaker 5: minutes defensively and offensively. So I think he's worth consideration
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  Speaker 5: the top ten. I don't think he gets enough love
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  Speaker 5: from from people in the NHL, and if you ask
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  Speaker 5: anybody on that team, I know he's a dog. But again,
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  Speaker 5: you said it, unless they do something in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: I think the more this gets close to the playoffs,
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  Speaker 5: the more the pressure is gonna mount. If they don't
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  Speaker 5: get out of the first round, let alone make it
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  Speaker 5: to the conference finals, it's a waste of a season
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  Speaker 5: for this team.
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  Speaker 3: So that's my take.
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  Speaker 5: Take it, leave it, digest it, regurgitate it, whatever you want.
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  Speaker 5: If that goes viral, so be it. But I'm saying
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  Speaker 5: right now, they do not make the conference finals, it's
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  Speaker 5: a waste of a season for the Winnipeg Jets. And
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  Speaker 5: I love everything about that team right now, love everything.
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  Speaker 1: No, I love that pick. Someone said to me, they
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  Speaker 1: gotta win around a go win a round. They might
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  Speaker 1: have a conce points you can get. I got.
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  Speaker 2: I need Final four and I need to lose that
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  Speaker 2: Conference finals in a hard fought six or seven game series.
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  Speaker 1: They you gotta get deep and look good going deep.
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  Speaker 5: They get right now they have their gold differentials plus
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  Speaker 5: plus seventy plus seventy. They've won ten straight in the
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  Speaker 5: dog days of the season at NET.
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  Speaker 3: Give me.
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  Speaker 1: Gave Lord of Kingston guy. I love Lord Him. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna deal both Kingston guys.
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  Speaker 2: All right, speaking of going viral, what are you doing
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  Speaker 2: pissing off people about Adam Fox?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, one of my all time backfires. There when you're
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  Speaker 5: just trying to kind of give a concise answer as
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  Speaker 5: an analyst and a commentator, you were asked certain questions
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  Speaker 5: and you give certain responses, and much of the chagrin
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  Speaker 5: of the New York Rangers fan base. I was shit
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  Speaker 5: upon by everybody and they start pulling up because I
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  Speaker 5: said Adam Fox and I wasn't even saying my opinion,
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  Speaker 5: but I you know, I did probably add some stuff
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  Speaker 5: to it. And I feel bad nocuse Adam Fox is
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  Speaker 5: hurt on the IR but all the more reason that
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  Speaker 5: they need to go get more help because they're asking
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  Speaker 5: him to do way too much. And I was prefacing
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  Speaker 5: the whole and to give a context and what I said,
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  Speaker 5: I said, guys, in the league that I've heard have
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  Speaker 5: said that Adam Fox come playoff time or in the
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  Speaker 5: playoffs is they'd rather play against him than other defensemen
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  Speaker 5: in the NHL, because when you're gonna go into the corner,
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  Speaker 5: you know you're not gonna get hit.
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  Speaker 3: He's not.
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  Speaker 5: His escapability is not as good as a Quinn Hugh
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  Speaker 5: is a Kale mccarr and he plays as heavy minutes
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  Speaker 5: as those guys. So if I'm a guy that's physical,
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at him being like licking my lips, being
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  Speaker 5: like I can put in his corner and try to
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  Speaker 5: run him every time. Now, his hockey at Q is
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  Speaker 5: through the roof. He's a Noris Trophy winner. He's a
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  Speaker 5: guy that's been in the Eastern Conference Finals twice. You know,
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  Speaker 5: largely not just because of him. He was a big
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  Speaker 5: part of it. Obviously, Ego Shusterkin has been incredible for
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  Speaker 5: that team. But it was more saying to the New
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  Speaker 5: York Rangers, and I've been on the New York Rangers
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  Speaker 5: ownership and management group all season saying they need to
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  Speaker 5: go get somebody to help them. They thought Candre Miller
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  Speaker 5: was gonna be that guy. Obviously, we don't think Candre
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  Speaker 5: will become that defenseman other than being a top four.
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  Speaker 5: You'll be a top four defenseman, Candre, but he's not
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  Speaker 5: going to be your top two. They're asking Ryan Lindgren
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  Speaker 5: to punch way above his weight class, and I just
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  Speaker 5: don't think right now, where the NHL is where they
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  Speaker 5: need to go and win a Stanley Cup, that is
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  Speaker 5: the right pairing Ryan Lindgren and Adam Fox. Now, they've
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  Speaker 5: tested and experimented with a few other guys, but they
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  Speaker 5: need to get him a legitimate, bona fide defenseman to
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  Speaker 5: play with him. Cale mccar's Davontave's Quinn Hughes, who's an
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  Speaker 5: enigma and can really play with anybody. Had Luke Schen
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  Speaker 5: early in his career, does really well with Philipperonic. But
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  Speaker 5: you look at the top guys, they typically have somebody
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  Speaker 5: that can help them and minimize the load a little
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  Speaker 5: bit and minimize the stress on their game and on
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  Speaker 5: their body, and I just think they need to get
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  Speaker 5: a guy that's gonna really help Adam Fox physically stay
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  Speaker 5: healthy and make sure they don't wear him out, because
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  Speaker 5: the last thing you want is your franchise defenseman to
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  Speaker 5: constantly be injured and be out and not be effective
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  Speaker 5: what he's brought in to do, which is offense. So
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  Speaker 5: everybody in the sorry, let me finish Parkley up. Every
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  Speaker 5: in the Rangers fan base, you can suck it. I
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  Speaker 5: don't apologize for what I said. I still have Adam
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  Speaker 5: Fox and I think he's great, but they need to
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  Speaker 5: get him help.
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  Speaker 3: So Rangers fans suck it.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunately now Adam Fox injured. So hopefully he's back sooner,
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  Speaker 2: but later it's not something serious again, Well shall find out.
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  Speaker 2: All right, a few topics we're gonna hit on here,
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  Speaker 2: and then we're gonna get to Alex Glogowski first and foremost,
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  Speaker 2: Alex Ovechkin, the great chase.
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  Speaker 1: Two forty to go on a third period, hena puck
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  Speaker 1: that comes to all Bedstead, he starts. Hete did it,
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  Speaker 1: Hete did it. It's a hat trick for all that.
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  Speaker 2: Skander thirty second career hat trick against the Oilers, added
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  Speaker 2: a goal Tuesday against Calgary. As of this moment, we're
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  Speaker 2: taping this Wednesday night, eight hundred and eighty three career goals.
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  Speaker 2: He has twelve goals shy of passing Wayne Gretzky's all
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  Speaker 2: time goals record the Capitals have twenty four games left
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  Speaker 2: in the season, tongue firmly in cheek. I asked you
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  Speaker 2: this a few weeks ago, and you said, yeah, he'll
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  Speaker 2: break the record like October twelfth, Like we'll have to
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  Speaker 2: wait all off season.
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  Speaker 1: Now it appears he's going to do it this year.
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  Speaker 2: I believe the latest productions are like April third, he's
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  Speaker 2: about to have a fifty goal season.
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  Speaker 1: At the age of thirty nine.
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  Speaker 5: Jay Wild, Yeah, I'm done saying anything against contrary to
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  Speaker 5: what I think he's gonna do, because I've been wrong
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  Speaker 5: seventeen different times. Last year, I said he wouldn't get thirty.
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  Speaker 5: He got thirty. I owed Mike Rup a bottle camus.
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  Speaker 5: This year again, I said, no, I won't get thirty
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  Speaker 5: this year, another bottle Camus out the window with Mike
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  Speaker 5: Croup doubled down, And now I said he's gonna break
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  Speaker 5: it October twelfth. It's probably gonna do it April twelfth
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  Speaker 5: or whatever, the April the last game of the season
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  Speaker 5: or before that. So I'm just eating crow. As they
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  Speaker 5: say constantly, he is shoving it up my tailpipe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I gave a pause.
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  Speaker 5: So he's shoving Come on, let's keep that. But he's
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  Speaker 5: just given He's given it to me. He's probably an
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  Speaker 5: avid listener of this show. And here's all of my comments.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so you think i'm.
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  Speaker 3: Script who knows?
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  Speaker 7: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Who knows.
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  Speaker 5: We got a lot of listeners. Could be one of them,
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  Speaker 5: could have a loyal It's not how many you have,
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  Speaker 5: it's who you have. And Alexander Vetchkin could be one.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, he's It's crazy what he's doing at his age,
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  Speaker 5: scoring in different ways. I know people are like empty netters.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, yeah, people craping about that, but he's not.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to score in an empty net. And he's
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  Speaker 5: not a liability when he's out there six on five.
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  Speaker 5: Like most teams, you're putting out your most defensive players
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  Speaker 5: on a six on five if you're, you know, trying
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  Speaker 5: to not give up a goal. They're putting him out there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: to help him get the record, but they wouldn't do
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  Speaker 5: it if they didn't trust him defensively. And he's showing
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  Speaker 5: out and he's getting goals and he's it seems like
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  Speaker 5: this team has a lot to play for this year
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  Speaker 5: and they're rallying behind this and and I mean what
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  Speaker 5: a way to end his career to win do this
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  Speaker 5: record this year? And then basically like we went from
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  Speaker 5: him is he going to break the record to what's
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: the new record going to be said at?
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Like what's the number? Like what's your number?
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: For you?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: That's a great topic because here's the he's going to
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: blast through nine hundred goals. But I wouldn't bet against
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: a thousand. I don't believe he will, but I wouldn't
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: bet against it.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: You say a thousand?
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Are you to me? That's insane?
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going I'm just saying.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: That's another one hundred and thirty.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: One hundred or twenty one hundred and seventeen goals?
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: One hundred and seventeen goals? No, I think I think
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: it's not crazy to think he can break like nine
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: thirty nine point fifty. I think he could do that
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: if he pends how much gas he wants to he's
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: got left in the tank, and how much long he
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: wants to play. But I mean that's one to clip
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: and say, what how many goals do we think Alexandrovitchkin
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: is going to end up his career? What's the record
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: going to be at? Because we got to stop saying
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: is he going to break the record. It's now a
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: question of when. But now what is the next record for? Like,
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: what's the next record going to end at? Where's Alexandrovitchin
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: going to end his goal scored oring? What would you
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: call it his goal scoring record?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Is this all time goals record? You'll records?
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Where would it end? Clip it?
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Alexandrovchkin go, I love the fact, audibly calling for the clipping.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: We gotta do that.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: We got to do that now, Mark seventh. Trade deadline
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: is fast approaching. This is fasting stray right now with Ransom,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: he's yet to sign extension with Carolina.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: The Avalanche trade him. Carolina thinks, now we got our superstar.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Now we got our got we gave up Marty Bechris.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Now we got our guy to take us over the top.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, now reportedly they offer him
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: one hundred million clams and he's like, eh, do you want?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I want?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Elliott Elliott Friedman reported that, So if he says it,
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: it's all but all, but take it as religion and
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: take it as gospel because he's usually right on the money.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: So if Carolina can't. I would give him a deadline
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: and be like, we got to move him. But you
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: know they're not really operating from a from a position
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: of power. And if you look at Carolina, if Ranton
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: doesn't sign and doesn't and doesn't, they don't trade him,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: and they lose him in free agency, and they lose
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Jake Gnsel, Marty Nachius and Miko Rotten and all within
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: a year and a half two years. That has to
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: go down as some of the worst GMing ownershipping whatever
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: you want to call it.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Uh, But how do you avoid this? Do you have
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: a conversation with Ransom's agent before his temperary?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: How do you How do you know that a guys
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: should agree to extension before you trade for him?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: How could you do it?
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: You lock him in a room, you're time to a chair,
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: and then you say you're not leaving until you give
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: us an answer. There's not much more Like. If I'm Carolina,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: I'm freaking out right now, I'm freaking out. If I'm
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: a Carolina Hurricanes fan, let alone Carolina ownership and management.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Like I'm freaking out, I'm I'm not sleeping.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: If I'm Tulsky, I'm calling him like I'm an ex
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: I'm a crazy ex girlfriend trying to get get back
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: with my boyfriend. I am calling him, texting him five
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: hundred times a day. I'm like me when I'm texting
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: you nonstly to promote the pod, and then all you
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: do is send me a reaction of a thumbs up
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: that actually give me any love. Anyway, we'll talk about that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: That's that's my AMI wrong segment. We're gonna tease that
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: am I wrong segment. But if he's dragging his feet
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: for this, I mean, I don't know what this guy wants,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: so I trade him and just keep the change.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I mean that that would be egg on the face.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer is, but that would
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: be awfully tough to reverse that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: All right, everyone ask to no out there.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Nh OLD quarter century Fan Vote presented by SAP design
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the top twenty five players of the past twenty five years,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: regardless of position. Talthing is some of the dark horses
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: in the vote. My guy Pronger, your Guy Jumbo, Joe Thornton, Agimler, Copatar, Pavelski,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: but you, Catherine Tapping and Mike Rupp had a conversation
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: You post it on.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Ig Eddie Old Checkley Eddie Old Chiswall and so was
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: with you, guys, call he's promoting this the all Coarters
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Sentry team and all of you unanimously stunned by the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: notable snub of Marion Hosa.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Is it because his name is Marion? Why didn't he
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get more love?
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: It's his name is Mary Ann No, Well, this is
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: voted by the fans, So this is all fans, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: they had like their first round of voting for the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: first teams, Mary and Hosa didn't even make it. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: I was like, listen, I'm all for fan voting, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: but if this is what I'm gonna get, like, revoke it. Like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: just revoke the fan voting because the fact that you
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: would leave Mary and Hosa, who we were all joking
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: about that he played in the same era as me,
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Eddie Olcik and Mike Grepp, who all played in different
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: eras and dominated every single one of those eras.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: This guy is over thirteen.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Hundred games played, over eleven hundred points, two hundred and
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: five games played in the playoffs, one hundred and forty
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: nine points. He's as productive in the playoffs as he
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: was in the season selky nominee.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: What did he have?
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you one of ninety three players in
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: NHL history Tocord over a thousand points.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Guy's got three cups. It like the way he.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Dominated like multiple generations and just was so good defensively,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: so good, offensively so strong. One of the hardest guys
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I've ever played against. We all looked at each other.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: We're like kind of building out. We're talking before the
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: show and we're talking about snubs and Eddie Oltchak Goes
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: is married a host on this list, and we're like, no,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: he's not on there.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: They're like, no, he didn't make it. We're like, are
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: you kidding me?
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Like this is the guy that you guys leave off,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Like forget about any stubs. This guy, this is an
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: all time snub because everything he did, penalty kill, power,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: play five on five important situations, was a leader, was
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: a winner, Like could have kept playing if not for
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: a skin kind of disease that he had that like
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: he had really bad exeema and that he couldn't like
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: play in it. Guys are telling me stories of like
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: he couldn't even wear like his shoulder pads without like
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: his skin being irritated and still gutted through that to
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: be like as dominant as he was. I just think
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: it's it's a travesty that he doesn't make it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I love you're passionate about it, and certainly I'm sure
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Marion Hosa fans out there, I appreciate his contribution of
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the game, and as you said, sometimes a fan votes,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you do open yourself up to some notable emissions. Coming
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: up next, Alex Goolagowski, Stanley Cup champion, dear friend of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Jason Demurz. He'll tell us stories not only about playing
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: with Jad, but also Marc Andre Fleury and Phil Kessel.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It's coming up right after this. You're an NHL Unscripted.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Alex Goolagowski played more than one thousand NHL games the Penguin, Stars, Coyotes,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and wild winning a Cup with Pittsburgh in two thousand
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and nine. He officially announced his retirement in September after
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: seventeen NHL seasons. Ladies and gentlemen, here on Unscripted, The
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Goose is Loose. Welcome to Alex Galagowski. Great to see
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you man, Thanks for doing.
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: This, Thank you, Thank you for the intro. That was awesome.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: No, of course you go way back with Jay. So
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'll let you guys get after here in a second.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you first about being a part
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: of a huge trade near the deadline back in twenty eleven,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: sent you to Dallas with James Neil and Matt Niskin
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to come in too Pittsburgh the trade deadline coming.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You know, people talk, but oh, this
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: is so great for this, this is the way for this.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: From a player's perspective, it's not always great. This is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: up people now, maybe there's a girlfriend, wife, kids, et cetera.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: What was it like for you?
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, completely out of the blue. Didn't see it coming whatsoever,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: But thankful I was. I was young and you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: living by myself and family wasn't wasn't involved. Yeah, I
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: can imagine that's a stressful time when you're moving family
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: or thinking about possibly having to go across country with
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: you know, everything that goes with that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: But yeah, for me, it was completely out of the blue.
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: But you know, Ray, Cheryl called me. I was waking
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: up for my pregame nap, and I knew that wasn't good.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: We were a couple of days from the deadline, so
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: you know, I just kind of answered. I was like, oh, no,
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: where am I going? And he was just like, I'm.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: Not like sending to Edmonton or anything.
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: You're going to Dallas. Like all right, I could do Dallas.
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: So it was, uh, it ended up being great for me.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: I was sad to leave Pittsburgh at that time, especially
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: we had such a such an awesome, you know, young team,
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: and but I really enjoyed my years in Dallas and
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: got to meet Jason Demierz there and formed a bludding
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: friendship for for years to come. So it was it
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: ended up being a good thing.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Before we uh just bring it to all about me,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: which I'll wait a little bit for that. You talk
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: about the trade deadline, but near the end of your
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: career in Mini, you had a chance to potentially go
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: to a Cup contending team chase another Cup, and you
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: kind of decided because of your family to not go
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: and kind of stay in Minnesota. Talk us through that
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: decision and kind of how hard it was to weigh
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: that with Amanda, who's your lovely wife.
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: I mean, like I was kind of saying earlier when
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: I when I got traded from Pittsburgh. You're at a
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: different time in your life.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: I was I signed back here with Minnesota, my my
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: hometown team, my you know, the state I was born in,
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: and it would just it didn't feel right to leave.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: We were still we were still grinding it out here
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: in Minnesota. We had a chance to get in and
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: you know, I just kind of wanted to see it through,
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: even though I wasn't playing a ton And.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: You know, if you if you decide to go, try
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: to chase it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: Uh, you know, you never know how that's gonna end up.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: It would have want to ended up going very far anyway,
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: I don't think. But no, it was I have no
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: regrets for doing that. I was happy to stay and uh,
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: you know, try to battle with my guys here to
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: to do something.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: So that was all good.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Goose.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: It's interesting you started your career with Mark Andrey Flurry
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh then finished your playing days with Flurry in Minnesota.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: How is young Flower different from old Flower, as his
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: longevity amazingly continues, Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: I'm at all. It's it's crazy to tell people this
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: all the time.
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: He is, he looks the same, he's aged unbelievably, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: on and off the aress. He's he's zero stress. He
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: he's one of those guys. He's the last guy to
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: the rink, like their last guy to meetings. Like he's
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: just always just cutting it close.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: He's just you know, no stress. He's he's just showing
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: up and.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He's a last guy in, first guy out. I love that.
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he I mean not to say he
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: doesn't work hard. He works as hard as anybody, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: you know, he's just you know, he's he's going to
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: roll into the meeting one minute before it and he's
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: just he's just an easygoing guy. And he uh, I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: it's incredible what he's doing at forty one years old
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: to be a goalie. The way he plays, the athleticism,
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: and he's still so good. Like I mean, he could
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: he could keep playing, in my opinion, but we'll see
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: what he does here. But an all time teammate, like
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: you won't find a better teammate, especially as a goalie.
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: You know, they're they got their quirks. He's he's amazing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Well, one of his quirks is like he's the biggest prankster.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: And I'm sure you feel that a lot of this,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: But do you have a really good young Mark Hendrey
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: like when he started pranking a good prank story and
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: then also later in his good now that you kind
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: of when you went back and played with him, like
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: did his pranks get better? Did they stay the same?
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Did he kind of? Was there any evolution to it?
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: A little bit?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: Funny enough, I saw it, Like last year, someone showed
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: me a clip of we did the It would have
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: been the second maybe second or third Winter Classic or no,
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: it wasn't the Winter Classic. We started the season over
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: in Sweden. We were in Stockholm and there's this video
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: clip of him putting it's like a little mini lobster
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: or something on my shoulder and I, to that day,
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: I had no clue it even happened. It was a
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: seventeen year joke, like like I was like, I didn't
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: even remember this, and he's.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Just like, oh, yeah, yeah, I did that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: Apparently I was walking around with a little lobster on
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: my shoulder for like three minutes in Stockholm, had no
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: idea and he just took it off and didn't tell
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: me ever. Psychopath but no, he uh like.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: A joke for himself or he's just sitting yeah, like him.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: Right and then yeah, not even say anything about it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: That's uh yeah, that's him. I don't know. He's rearranged
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: guys rooms, he's taken, he's put rooms out in hallways,
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: and it's always, you know, kind of young guys. It
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: was great when he was here in Minnesota, when Brandon
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: Dewham was here too. They would go back and forth
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: and I think, uh do he kind of got in
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: got it, got in a little deep and didn't know
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: what he was getting into he had. I mean, his
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: brand new dress shoes were nailed to the bottom of
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: his locker one day. He was missing, missing his briefs
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: quite quite a few times after games.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: So uh, it was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: Just kind of he was playing the long game with Dewey,
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: just kind of chipping away at him day by day,
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: and eventually every he's like, I'm done, I'm done.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: You got me? So.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Phil Kestle incredible goalscorer all those years you get to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: play with a couple of seasons in Arizona. I'm not
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: sure if you ever put a crustacean on your shoulder,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: But give me a Phil Kestle story.
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: Oh man, where to start? Philly Philly unbelievable teammate. I
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: love playing with Phil. I was actually teammates with him
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: at the University of Minnesota for one year. Yeah, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: he came in as an underage or he was like
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: eighteen years old, and he just was lighting up college
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: hockey and just eating candy on the side and just
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: I mean, just a character.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: But he uh.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: I remember I don't know if you remember.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: This Jay one day and in Arizona, because he'd always
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: get ship from the trainers, you know, like come on,
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: can get film, get him in the weight room, you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: like oh, part of the you know, like whatever whatever.
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: He came into the weight room one time after like
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: three people go and be like Phil, come on, let's go.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: Everyone's working out.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Come on, come in.
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: And he came in and he grabbed he went the
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: hex bar lift, which is you know whatever, it's just
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: a leg lift.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a deadlift from the ground.
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: Right from the ground. And there's usually like three stations,
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: you know, the the weaker guys like myself would go.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: I was always far right, far right, that was my station.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: Don't want to get hurt. I just want to get
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: my work in. And then there was the middle station,
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: and then there was like the heavy station. There was
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: like three guys that would do that, all the big boys,
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: and Phil. Phil walked in there and he went straight
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: to the heavy station and he just started wrapping this
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: thing out. He probably did like twenty of them and
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: then he just dropped the bar and he's like, is
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: that good?
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: And he just walked out.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, there are some tough moments as well. Jason de
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Murris joins with the Coyotes before the twenty seventeen Right,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you start the year ten to one, but cause she
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: ended up scoring in overtime against the Flyers. You guys
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: are both great guys, lighthearted, funny, but how did you
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: overcome such a brutal start?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean Jay, I ready you could probably venue
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: it almost real. Yeah yeah, I mean we we found
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: our way through it. We got through it, but I
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: mean we were finding we found every way you could
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: lose a game during that stretch.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: It was incredible, like we we should have been at
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: worst like maybe a game or two hundred five hundred,
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: but we were just we would just lose game. The
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: first game of the season, I think we were up five,
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: five to one, four to one in Anaheim.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: In Anaheim, I.
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Think we were up four to one in the third
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: and we lost in regulation, and then it was like a.
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: Free fall after that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: Just couldn't We're grasping for straws and coming up with nothing.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: It was. It was incredible.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: You remember, you remember in the room goose in between
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: the second and the third in that game, and we're like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: we're the greatest team alive.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: We might make the playoffs.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: We're gonna make the play we were contenders after that
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: second period. Oh and then it all came crashing down.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: That was that was that start was Yeah, I'll never
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: forget that start either. But it ended up you know what,
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: that year ended up being a really fun year though,
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: because we we kept getting better and obviously there's teams
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: you know, probably taking us lately as it went along,
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: but we we started at the bottom and we uh,
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: you know, we got we got a lot better that year.
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: So it'd not being kind of a fun year.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I know the stat because after January we were
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: like the third best record in the league. Because I
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: did I did convince people that we weren't a bad
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: team that whole summer because they're like, ah, you guys
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: lost eleven straight and then.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: You're the one that got us.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, tell the story of because you know
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Scott Wedgwoods had a great career. But do you remember
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: before we won our first game, Uh, the meeting we
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: had with Rick Tackett and Scott Wedgwood. Take us through
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: that meeting because it was one of the funnier things
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I've ever heard of a player say in in a meeting.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: It's yeah, it's funny enough. I actually just told this
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: story like two days ago because I saw Weggie. I
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: was just an Aspen skiing and I saw Leggie in
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: the airport. I was talking to him for.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: A while ago.
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but then I was telling my buddies I was
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: about that was telling him this story. So we're on
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: what were we at that point?
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Like maybe it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Was owner like one or it was like it was
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: before the road trip where we won.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: YEA with a couple ot losses.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: But so we pick up we had.
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: We were struggling at the gold goaltending position, so we
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: picked up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: Weggie off Waivers right and.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: He came in.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: It was his first day.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: So we're in in.
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: The Heila River Arena without a win to our name.
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: Sitting down in our video session, just like what are
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: we what are we going to get into today? And
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: you know, it's talks up there. You know, he's he's
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: trying everything he can at this point too, and you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: he's just opening up the room. He's like you you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: we have our meeting and he's like, all right, anyone
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: got anything else?
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: And you know, it's kind of just quiet. Only really
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: has anything.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: We've we've already had the Kumbaya meetings for about you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: two weeks at this point, and then all of a sudden,
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: just a voice from the back. Guy's like, yeah, I
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: got something and he kind of goes off with a
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: good speech about you know, everyone's got something to play
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: for whatever, and it's kind of all at the same time,
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: everyone was kind.
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: Of like who is that?
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: No one, no one had any idea who this guy was,
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: or just like this the new goalie and he's piped up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: In the meeting. Good for him, it was.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: It was it was a funny, funny thing to be
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: a part of, though and walk out of there whatever,
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: it's just like what was that?
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Like who's that?
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: He was like, He's like, we got to play for
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: contracts and like we also got to like play for
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: each other and like come on, guys, like we got
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: it in here and we're like.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Who up? Who is this guy that we just grabbed?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Like what? And he gets us the first win?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Is the goal? Oh yeah?
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: It was meant to be.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Big old balls on them.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, hockey guys, you.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Have aspirations to be a potential GM and and you
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: know you've talked about it. Is there anything I'm not
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: going to get into Minnesota because you're kind of working
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: with them a little bit. And and but if you
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: put your GM hat on right now, who's the guy
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: that intrigues you on a team? And who's a guy
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: that you think, like, give us your insight. I'll go here,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: I'll go give me your insight on Ranton and Carolina
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: right now?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Like what what the hell do they do right now?
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: You gotta trade them, don't you?
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: I mean you allegedly offered him a hundred million dollars.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: I mean you can't.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: You can't just lose that guy for nothing because you
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: get a haul back for him. It seems weird, but uh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: I think if you know, if he's not signing you,
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: you have to do it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Would you still would you still get a haul back
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: from you think?
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: Mm hmm, yeah, I think so.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: I mean with teams now, I guess said two million,
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: like his cap cap fits barely anything. But yeah, you're
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: saying trade him because it's like he's a if he's
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: saying no at one hundred million and dragging his feet.
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean what you know if if he was
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: on any other team and getting traded at the deadline,
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: he's getting a haul back for him. You know you're
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: getting for sure a first round pick and probably a
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: roster player in a prospect.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Gustus is awesome and Alskolagowski congrats in a wonderful career
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and somehow maintaining a friendship with Jason Demurz after all
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: these years.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: Both equally impressive.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: All right time at the Little Centophile in sixty The
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Oscars are taking place on Sunday, and neither Jason de
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Murz or Taal PINCHEFFI will have seen the Brutalist before then.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: So the good news of.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Them is, I do not believe it's going to win
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: any major awards, with exception perhaps Asia and Brody Best Picture.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I'm predicting right now it won the PGA. It won
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the DGA. It's going to be an Best Director. I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: predicting Sean Baker. He won the dj that's the Director's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Guild Award. Best Actress is a very interesting race because
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Mikey Madison does win the Bath to Let's Go, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to me more won the SAG Award. Most of the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Academy is actors. I believe to me Moore will win.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Supporting is already a rap. Don't even bother betting on it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And Zoe Seldon him as Kieran Culkin, which brings.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Us to Best Actor and all along.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: It looks like it's going to be Adrian Brody for
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: the Brutalist to be his second Academy Award. He has
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: it once since he was twenty nine years of age
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and he won for the Pianist. He was the youngest
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Best Actor Oscarinner ever. But throwing a decisive monkey in
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the wrench is the great Timiditay Shaloman who wins the
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: SAG Award and again SAG. The actors are the biggest
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: part of the ten thousand person Academy, so the fact
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: he won the Saga is pretty good. But more notably
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: for the appearance here of unscripted. It's what Shalamy said
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: when he won.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: But the truth is, I'm really in pursuit of greatness.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I know people don't usually talk like that, but I
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: want to be one of the greats. I'm inspired by
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: the greats. I'm inspired by the greats here tonight. I'm
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: as inspired by Daniel day Lewis, Marlon Brando, and Viola
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Davis as I am by Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps and
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I want to be up there.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Jad.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So we're calling it cocky, strange, bizarre. I thought it
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: was fabulous, and you're married to an actress. What does
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Jill think?
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: What did Jill think about it? Yeah, she said it
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: was She really enjoyed it. She's like, oh, yeah, this
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: is really cool. But again he's what is he dating
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: a Jenner at Kardashian No. I actually really thought it
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: was cool. I listened to it after you talked about it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: I thought it was a very well done speech. It's
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: nice to hear somebody from that industry acknowledged that. Listen,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to be the great, one of the greats,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: and I'm trying to strive for something greater than myself,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: but also be the best version of myself. And I
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: just think I enjoyed hearing that because a lot of
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: them all a lot of pandering and nonsense, and you're
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: just like, just get to it. You guys all want
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: to be the best. I'm gonna be making the most money,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: just say it so. And you said something right. You
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: said it was unabashed, which I thought so very very
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: well done by timidth Tay Shallo May and uh, he
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: did great job. I'm a big fan of his. In
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Dune one of my favorite movies.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Done too.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Dannyville Nev got robbed once again. Another year, another dannyville
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Nev robbery. But Timothay Chalome was fantastic, great acceptance speech.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Kid is ahead of his time.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And one more thought here just in the SAgs. I
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: don't know, I peop want to include this in the podcast.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: You text me that you think it. You think the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Sagawarts is a masturbatory affair.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, masturbatory. The sag Awards is self masturbation. A's finest
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: by the acting community. Seventeen million award shows in a row.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Why not because we're the greatest. You want to clean
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: up downtown La put an award show there.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Everyone's looking for hatulation of some sort of merit real
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: quick cloth Because again I've toad you this before, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I know you think you're good looking, so it doesn't
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: matter what I think. But I do think you'd be
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: good in the movie because you got a good look
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to hit your talent.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I never once said I was good like I have
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: great personality.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You once said on the zoom Can I tell you, like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: look how good I look? Guys, my skin looks.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Jerking yourself off like that?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: We need you goin to bash. Then you were on
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the batch in love with yourself. We do need to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: get you in the biopic with the Life of NHL
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: start Thel Flurry. I guess it's a little guy. Flury
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: is are my favorite guys. This guy's five six scoring
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: goals to Flames.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I loved him.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: The film is called Flurry and will start. Actor Kevin
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Zieger's in the Tunnel role. We already said you can
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: play a racist coach in the upcoming Young Blood reboot.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Now I need to get this deal Flurry biopic.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I can play. I have a lot of range and
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I can do it. I think I can do it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Theo Flurry gave me a call I'd love to be
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: a part of it. I mean, his story is wild
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: and you know what he came from, and very harrowing that,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: you know, how people can take advantage of these kids
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: and so like that, especially in junior and just in
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: the sports field. You think you're safe at times, but
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: you're not. So I just think it's a it's a
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: crazy story, it's a it's a good cautionary tale for
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of kids, and I think it's going to
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: be great. So I would love to be a part
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: of it, obviously, But you know, just give me a call.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Our second guest, you're an NHL inscripted is Devin Dubnik.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Had a terrific career in the NHL, played for variety
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: of teams. We'll ask them about that journey, plus what
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: do you thought of Jordan Bennington's stellar work at the
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Four Nations. Our next guest, to first round pick of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the Edmonton Oilers back in two thousand and four, went
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: on to be a three time NHL All starring collect
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty three wins with six NHL teams.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Also a former teammate colleague of Me and JD's NHL Network,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: The one and only Devin Dubnik doude be great to
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: see man.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: How you been good? Thanks for that intro. That's nice,
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: that feels good.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Of course it's accurate.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I want to get right into Canada and the Four
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Nations and you know what it's like because you represented
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Canada World Championship Cup.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: You know the pride you have playing for our country.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: And hey, hand of the back we played it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Spangler Cup alumni.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: We played spang A.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Cup together and won it. So were your research ad
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: nan Burg.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: But listen, I want I want to go into Bennington first,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: but if you want to talk Spangler Cup, I figured
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Four Nations was a little more peraly Spangler Cup stories momentarily.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: But I wanted to ask you to me about Binner.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Were you skeptical like others or were you confident he
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: would step up?
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: I was in between. I wasn't skeptical. You can't be
• 40:36
  Speaker 10: skeptical of a guy that want to stand the cup.
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: And he's a very good goaltender, so there was no
• 40:41
  Speaker 10: there was no skepticism about his ability to do it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: It's just whether or not he would. And and again,
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: I mean people just didn't I didn't like to look
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: on paper That's kind of what I was saying.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: Leading after the tournament.
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: You know, people were pretty upset with Canada's goaltending for
• 40:58
  Speaker 10: having two Stanley Cup winners on their team and went
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: through the other teams no offense to anybody, but I
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: didn't see many, So it was funny how that worked.
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: And then you look, this is a guy that performs
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: when it matters, and he did the same thing in
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: the Stanley Cup playoffs and there's that experience, that experience
• 41:15
  Speaker 10: winning and knowing how to win. It means something, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: he showed it there. You know, even throughout the tournament,
• 41:22
  Speaker 10: people are given it to him for whatever reason.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, he faced an extremely.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: High number of high danger chances throughout the tournament and
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: was still playing well, and so he faced criticism throughout
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: the tournament as well, and all he did was come
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: up huge when it matter and you could just see
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: the way the way Bennington was moving. I mean his
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: save on Matthews in overtime, the blocker say, it was
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: like put it in a.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: Textbook on how to.
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: Enter and exit out of a reverse VH if that
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: means anything to you, guys, but it was.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: It was textbook.
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: And then he follows that up with it with a
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: glove save, and that glove save.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: Is a perfect example of just feeling it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: I mean, that's one of the best shooters on the
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: planet and that thing went right in the pocket of
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: his glove from twenty feet.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Now, do the Connor Helliu goal against McDavid's goal.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: What was that push? Was that under? Was that an
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: under push or was he a little late getting out?
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, I I think it's fine, listen, we can
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: we can, we can slow that thing down. But the
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: only thing you need to slow down is how fast
• 42:20
  Speaker 10: that thing got off of caught off of Connors stick
• 42:23
  Speaker 10: and went straight in the elbow.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you want to if it went.
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: Under his hand or or you know, in the elbow
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: of his arm or something and he just missed it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: I mean, this is this is on and off his
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: stick before you even know what happens. I remember watching
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: the game and I knew the game was over. I'm
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: sure it wasn't the only one, but it was like
• 42:42
  Speaker 10: seeing the pass dead just miss Matthews and it wasn't
• 42:47
  Speaker 10: even on McDavid's stick yet, and there was just a
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: part of me that was like, oh, game's over.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: We're like game Connors like game there he goes that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: First time he got open all night too.
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: I mean it was the US just doing an unbelievable
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: job of shutting a guy down that I didn't realize
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: it was possible to be shut down at all.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: It only takes once.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: No, it is true. It was a hell of a tournament.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: And again Hell quited himself, Well, he's obviously the favorite
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: right now for the Vesna win his third. I want
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: to ask you to be about some guys frustrated and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: sounding off.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Luke Shehanla Petters said.
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: I don't think I've ever been a part of a
• 43:18
  Speaker 11: group he's literally can't score goals. I mean, obviously, you know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 11: sometimes you're you're giving up a lot or defensive games
• 43:26
  Speaker 11: out there, but at least you know you get you
• 43:27
  Speaker 11: catch you at break and catch the puck.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: In the dead Chef Jones, the Blackhawks.
• 43:31
  Speaker 12: We're the exact same team right now as you were
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: as Game one, and I think it's pretty pretty evident
• 43:35
  Speaker 12: out there we haven't made any strides to be a better,
• 43:40
  Speaker 12: more simple hockey team, you know, and the shows you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 12: we don't get a lot of wins because of that.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You're on some young teams in Edmonton that faced adversity.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: What is that atmosphere like and how do you overcome it?
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: It's difficult. I mean, you got two different situations there.
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  Speaker 10: Nashville is a strange one, right because they got all
• 43:58
  Speaker 10: these they got all these veteran guys who are proven
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  Speaker 10: players that are still great players, and and you look
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  Speaker 10: at that team and it doesn't make sense that they're
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: as bad as they are, because you know, maybe they
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: wouldn't be great and be one of the best teams
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: in the league, but it's strange to see how bad
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: they are.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know that that one's kind of a
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: weird dynamic.
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  Speaker 10: But you got to imagine all those all those guys,
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: veteran guys in there, who have been there, done that.
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  Speaker 10: It's got to be extremely frustrating for them when they
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: expect a lot out of themselves and expected a.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Lot going into the season.
• 44:31
  Speaker 10: And then the Chicago thing is similar to the Edmonton
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: For me when I started, it's just you every year.
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: We had a bunch of years where we were just awful,
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: and you get through it and there's bumps, there's some
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: ups and a lot of downs, but you have these glimmers,
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: and then you enter the next season and it's this
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: new ray of hope. We get we had another first
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: overall draft pick in empton of like three or four
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: of them, and and it's like this new energy and
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: everybody's excited, and you have the summer and you come
• 45:04
  Speaker 10: in the season and we're gonna make this big step.
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: And then, like Seth Jones said, it is just disheartening
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: to be at the same spot and look and be
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: like we have not grown at all.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, and it's and then it's just it's demoralizing.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what your thoughts are, and
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: I just have a hard time when you build this
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: culture of losing and even though you're not trying to,
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: you're trying to, you know, you're trying to rebuild, they
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: call it, but call it what it is. They're you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: they're breaking it down to the studs to kind of
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: get some top top end talents and franchise generational changing players.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Blake do be like after a while, it's like those
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: guys learn how to lose, and then it's so hard
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: to break that habit. And I mean, you've been on
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: some teams where it's like you listen to Seth Jones
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: and a Schenner where it's like you.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: You don't even want to come to the rink anymore.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And it's it's tough to say because it's a game
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: we love and you're getting paid to do it, and
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: but it is when you when you, it's so demoralizing
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  Speaker 5: to lose that much, and you never want to get
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: young kids, young kids coming in the league learning that way.
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  Speaker 6: No, you nailed it. That's that's the biggest thing, is
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: that learning to lose. And we did exactly that in
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Edmonton in it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: And it's so tricky and you see the players, the
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: young players that have the most success are the guys
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: that come in and they get to learn and make their.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: Mistakes while winning.
• 46:20
  Speaker 10: And that's that's such a big difference, because you know
• 46:24
  Speaker 10: they're out there making mistakes.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: You have to let them go out.
• 46:27
  Speaker 10: And make mistakes and learn, but they're learning how to
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: win at the same time and learning like, Okay, I'm
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: on a winning team, like that's unacceptable. You know, I'm
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: not going to get sent down to the miners for
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: making that mistake, but I'm going to know quickly that
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: that's unacceptable.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: And that's not going to help us win in Edmonton.
• 46:43
  Speaker 10: For us, it was like we had you know, Taylor Hall,
• 46:46
  Speaker 10: Jordan Everley, Nugent Hopkins, Nail Jacopov.
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: And yeah, Justin Justin Schultz was there.
• 46:57
  Speaker 10: I mean, we had all these young guys and they're
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: they're great players and they turned out they went on
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: to be great players.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: So they were great hockey. There is almost all of them.
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, my boy Nail, but we uh they they were
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: given ice time, so they come in and instead of
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: coming in on a team and and learning through winning
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: and learning from from and earning what they got, they
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: came in and it was just like first line minutes
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: point night, Like they just they got what they got,
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: regardless of if we lost ten games in a row.
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: There was no there was no one pushing behind them.
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: And they learned like they learned everything the wrong way.
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: It was just it was about getting the points. And
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: I mean, listen, it's it's also survival mode because like
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: you said, you start.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: To hate coming to the rink and.
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: And hockey's not fun. You got to find a way
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: to make it fun. You got it, and scoring goals
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: is fun. So but they you just don't learn to
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: play the right way. And that's why it's not surprising
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: that that those guys need to go elsewhere and put
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: themselves in different situations to learn what.
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: It is and how to play and how to win.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask me about a specific moment. This
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: is the last one for me. You bounce around between Edmonton, Nashville, Arizona.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: You end up in Minnesota. You started thirty eight straight games,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: which is insane. You get named at All Star, you
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: win the Mashton, you finish third invested voting, and maybe
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: even more impressive fourth in the heart fote.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: How did you do it?
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: That was That was a crazy, crazy year. You know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: I I call it playing with house money. So it
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: was I was you know, I was almost sute of
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: the league, and Arizona was the only team that offered
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: me a one way contract.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: I was excited for it. It was a place I
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: was familiar with. I played.
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: Against them a whole bunch, knew a bunch of the
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: guys in the room. Was a very comfortable situation for
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: me to go into new Shawn Burke. I was excited
• 48:53
  Speaker 10: to work with him, so I was able to kind
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: of slowly get my game up and and also in
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: case you guys were wondering, it's not a hockey hotbed.
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: So I could go there and be away from pressure
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: and not feel like every time I stepped on the
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: ice my game was going to get picked apart by
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: by eighteen beat writers. I was able to kind of
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: go and find my game within the least pressure area
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: that I that I could, and so I could I
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: kind of build my game up and and at first,
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: going into the season, I was like, Hey, I'm just
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: going to be grateful of being playing in the NHL,
• 49:23
  Speaker 10: and it doesn't matter how many games I get.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna enjoy when I get on the ice and
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: just enjoy it. And I did, and that was my mindset.
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: But then, you know, as I started to play more
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: and started to earn more starts and two in a row,
• 49:34
  Speaker 10: three in a row here.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: And there, I started to get the itch back and
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: Like, hey, I can do this, Like I I could
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: be a starting goal or at least play more. And
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: then you know, the trade talks start to kind of
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: bubble around and nothing really got serious. I knew that
• 49:49
  Speaker 10: there was a chance, but because it wasn't. It was
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: before the deadline in January and then all of a sudden,
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: it was off to Minnesota, and again I knew nothing.
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: I had no expectations going to Minnesota. The only thing
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: I knew is they were a really good hockey team
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: that was not performing, not getting wins. But I knew
• 50:05
  Speaker 10: they were good. So I just kind of said to myself,
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: same same approach. Enjoy every game, don't think about what
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: this means for next year, don't think about us having
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: a two percent chance of making the playoffs. Just get
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: ready for every game and enjoy it. And then it
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: just kind of it just kind of snowball. And I
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: just like I said, I was playing with house money,
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: so I was never everything was a bonus from there
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: on out. I was going to be going to the
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: season thinking I was going to get eighteen to twenty games,
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: and now I'm playing And then and then I started
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: playing so much in a row that it was almost
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: like like we needed to win every game. And the
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: other goal he hadn't played. It was Darcy Kemper and
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: Nicholas Bactrim. They hadn't played a month, then month and
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: a half, and it was like, now we need these
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: wins and they hadn't played for six weeks so we
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: can't put them in because it's not fair for them
• 50:53
  Speaker 10: and we need these wins.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: So it just kind of kept going until we finally clinched.
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: The playoffs and then and then I got a night off.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks? What's going to Devin? Dude?
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Nick?
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Some great stuff they're on goal to. I'm not sure
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: if all of you heard it, but me and Jason
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: definitely did. All right, Jady, how do you want to
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: close up things anitalln scripted Episode thirteen?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: What do you got for me? Am I wrong? Yeah?
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Final thoughts for am I wrong? And this is a
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: question to the folks in the back everybody. When you
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: text somebody, and I know we're in a world where
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: it's texting and I personally would rather FaceTime and call people,
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: but we're in a group thread. The three of us,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: me and tal will will very very passionately send text
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: messages talking about how we want the show to go,
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: what guests we want, how we want things to be formatted.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Very you know, we care, and our colleague here at
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: NNVERK will just give you and I'll send, like again,
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: I look like a crazy ex girlfriend. I'll send like
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: four messages in a row and I might over message.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: It's exactly I think the proper right there, over the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: hell up, shut the hell. I might.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I might over message at times, but all I get
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I'll send four messages very nice and tale respond to me,
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: and then we'll get I'll look at my phone, I'll
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: see ping, ping, ping notifications.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Ad NaN's responded.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, he's answering back with like a nice answer,
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: thoughtful answer. No, it's a reaction to whatever I texted,
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: whether it's a thumbs up, a goddamn exclamation point, or
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: a thumbs down, maybe a haha at times if it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: something funny, And I find that such a slap in
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: the face. So people, when you send a long text message,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: is it a slap in the face when somebody just
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: sends a reaction instead of an actual thoughtful answer.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: In return, I think it's really funny. I'm glad that
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you're passionate about it. But Tow will back me up.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to do this because as a producer
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it's hard.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: You don't want to play favorites. But in fairness, I
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: did just read his book. He knows that you over message,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and because he's to produce, you just to be polite
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and placates you. I'm smart, I'm just efficient. So I
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: just go, Okay, this isn't notable, but I'll give you
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a like, I'll give you up be sizes like I'm
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: paying attention. But it's it's too much. Tell back me up,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: it's too much.
• 53:06
  Speaker 13: Well for there's no right answer for me right now.
• 53:09
  Speaker 13: I'm just gonna throw that out there. I love the passion.
• 53:12
  Speaker 13: I'm gonna think I'm gonna come in and just diplomatically
• 53:16
  Speaker 13: say that it's a pleasure to work with someone who
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: is so fully invested in making NHL Unscripted the best
• 53:24
  Speaker 13: and most successful show it can be. But yeah, sometimes
• 53:30
  Speaker 13: it's a bit much.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Jay, thanks for listening to Unscripted. Enjoy the oscars.
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  Speaker 7: Will be back next week, boo.
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