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Craig Telfer · Not Another Football Podcast

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Speaker 1: Episode of Not an Other Football Podcast with myself, Simon,
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Speaker 1: Donnelly and Jackie. I'm delighted to have a next guest
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Speaker 1: off the Telly Great Telfa.
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Speaker 2: I'm brilliant. Thank you very much for having me on
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Speaker 2: the show.
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Speaker 1: Looking forward, it we spot in Italy stripped day as
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Speaker 1: a hope of them getting into this World Cup.
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Speaker 2: Of course, of course they're there.
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Speaker 3: There's talk of Iran being booted out and Italy being
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Speaker 3: put back in.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: I just think this is it's a nice top un Fortunately,
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Speaker 3: this was Italy's top at Euro ninety six with They're
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Speaker 3: an absolute disaster six ninety six. Ay, so it's not
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Speaker 3: a particularly good year for for Italian football, but it's
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Speaker 3: like a nice toppings.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for the compliment.
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Speaker 1: It's brough a good start already already the World Couple's
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Speaker 1: your thoughts.
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Speaker 3: I I'm really looking forward. I'm getting opportunity to go
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Speaker 3: over there and work. I'm working there for the Terras podcast,
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Speaker 3: so I think I'm making video content across the three weeks,
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Speaker 3: basically from a fans perspective, so that the I need
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Speaker 3: to discuss this. But what I want to do is
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Speaker 3: like spend a week in Boston, go to the game
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Speaker 3: against Haiti, then maybe two nights in New York, back
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Speaker 3: to Boston for the game against Morocco, maybe a night
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Speaker 3: in Nashville, you know, go down there was supposed to
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Speaker 3: be class and then out to Miami for the game
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Speaker 3: against Brazil and the back up the road.
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Speaker 2: So it's like three weeks.
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Speaker 3: I was out in Belfast a couple of weeks, so
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Speaker 3: let my visa sorted for it. I've got accreditation for
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Speaker 3: FEEF assorted, so I just need to book the flights
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Speaker 3: and accommodation. So I've got a discussion with my boss
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Speaker 3: about that later on in the week, and they all
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Speaker 3: know exactly what's expected.
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Speaker 1: I mean, but I can't wait three weeks all on,
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Speaker 1: three weeks all in when we get to the knockouts,
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Speaker 1: and then we.
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Speaker 3: Discussed that, I do I weirdly, I do think we've
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Speaker 3: got this is a because of the way chance.
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Speaker 2: Well, do you know something.
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Speaker 3: I think it's if you finish like the one of
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Speaker 3: the best third place teams you can, you can progress.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's going to be I think it's
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Speaker 3: going to be that game against Haiti. The first game
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Speaker 3: is really going to determine how we get on. I
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Speaker 3: think we should be looking to run up a cricket
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Speaker 3: score against something. No, that's not something we traditionally do.
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Speaker 3: See if we will to be them like five or
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Speaker 3: six now, because Morocco is going to be a hard game.
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Speaker 3: Brazil is going to be a hard game. But see,
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Speaker 3: if you've got three points and you've got a decent
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Speaker 3: gold difference, you've got a right good chance of progressing.
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Speaker 3: And then it's strapping the phone to the Boston sending
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Speaker 3: all money please, then the greater accommodation. But I can't wait.
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Speaker 3: I've never been to the United States before. You know,
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Speaker 3: it was a wee bit reticent at first, you know,
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Speaker 3: sort of the ongoing situation. America doesn't look like particularly
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Speaker 3: a welcoming place at the moment.
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Speaker 2: But it's the it's the World Cup.
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Speaker 4: Can check your socials because it's donald not.
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Speaker 3: Checked the first time. The first thing I did was nothing.
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Speaker 3: There was nothing bad on there. But it's when you
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Speaker 3: fill in the form for the visa. They asked like
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Speaker 3: to check like Instagram and Twitter and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: So I just I just put it down there for
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Speaker 3: just for safety. But the process to get the visas weird,
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Speaker 3: like I thought, it was, you know, seems like an
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Speaker 3: interview for a visa. I thought you'd be going out
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Speaker 3: to this consulate in Belfast. You'd be there for like
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Speaker 3: an hour and they would go through, like line by
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Speaker 3: line what you've put in the visa.
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Speaker 2: Like once once she skits like a doctor's waiting room.
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Speaker 3: There's about you and twenty other people all sitting there
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Speaker 3: waiting to waiting to go through.
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Speaker 2: An interview lasts about three minutes.
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Speaker 3: It's all like a bunch of kids going to Camp
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Speaker 3: America that we're all in the cube before me and
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Speaker 3: Gop And he's like, so the body that's what you're
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Speaker 3: doing is looking at the World Cup. Oh great, well
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Speaker 3: that's class. There you go, there's your there's a visa sorted.
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Speaker 3: So that's the one one thing to take off. Nobody's
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Speaker 3: about that. And then it's just, honestly, man, just counting
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Speaker 3: down that the days I've gone from like just so
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Speaker 3: see how we go.
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Speaker 2: But now I just I just I just can't wait.
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Speaker 4: To out there for the start or just when Scotland
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Speaker 4: start the start.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's Scottland are playing and it's the
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Speaker 3: Friday or the Saturday, so I'll be out there for
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Speaker 3: the Monday, and the idea is basically just to get
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Speaker 3: as much content as possible speaking to Scotland fans, like
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Speaker 3: basically find out what what Boston's like, documenting the like
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Speaker 3: the journey from the from.
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Speaker 2: Boston to the stadium, basically really what what fans are.
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Speaker 3: Don't go to fan zones and I get the opportunity
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Speaker 3: to go to like other games quite fancy Congo versus
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Speaker 3: his Betty Stan. I think that's a bucket as a
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Speaker 3: new bucket list kind of game. But I think that's
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Speaker 3: just I think I'll need to find out exactly. But
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Speaker 3: I think I've got like pretty much a broad scope
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Speaker 3: to to kind.
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Speaker 2: Of do a want there. As long as there's daily
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Speaker 2: videos that are going out.
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Speaker 3: There'll be challenging to film stuff and then go back
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Speaker 3: and edit, but that's something.
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Speaker 4: We can anything to do with the team. Will you
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Speaker 4: be no team?
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Speaker 2: No, it's mostly exalt stuff to fans.
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Speaker 3: I think that the Terennis podcast they've they've like joined
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Speaker 3: up with news Quest, who owned the Herald.
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Speaker 2: And the National.
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Speaker 3: I think they are sending Steve McGowan out. He's going
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Speaker 3: to be based at the Scotland tearing base, so they
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Speaker 3: send someone to cover all the stuff to the team,
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Speaker 3: and then I'll be doing the fun stuff with the fans.
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Speaker 5: The warm up games first, yeah, we've got a couple
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Speaker 5: of it.
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Speaker 2: Not we've got so we're playing Curus out at the
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Speaker 2: end of May.
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Speaker 3: That's the basically, that's the one, just to send everyone
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Speaker 3: up the road a smile.
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Speaker 2: So looking forward to that.
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Speaker 3: And then I think I think it's in the Metlake
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Speaker 3: Stadium in New Jersey.
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Speaker 2: We're playing Bolivia. That's basically just.
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Speaker 1: They played there on the warm up. That's where he
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Speaker 1: played Columbia.
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Speaker 4: New Jersey.
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Speaker 2: Did you say, I think I think so.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure we played Columbia. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Remember Drama only gets her game because he's.
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Speaker 2: Here ready key to playing in that game, big boy Valentia.
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Speaker 5: Really, when we used to get the team the opposition,
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Speaker 5: Craigan used to go through the opposition and sort of
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Speaker 5: basically to say they were ship.
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Speaker 2: I've heard that.
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Speaker 5: I've heard that just to I think it was his
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Speaker 5: way of psyching us up, the confidences us ever to
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Speaker 5: be played with, you know, best players in the world
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Speaker 5: or average. And but the Columbia game, Valderama, he's like
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Speaker 5: he's past it. He only gets a game because he's
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Speaker 5: here and he said Valencia, he's a black Ally McCoist
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Speaker 5: six foot five. That's that's what we had done that
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Speaker 5: we do that?
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Speaker 2: Did he do that against Brazil?
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Speaker 3: Like obviously he's going through all these like one class
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Speaker 3: Ronaldo better.
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Speaker 1: We played them in the first game and then but
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Speaker 1: also just on that same thing we played. Remember we
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Speaker 1: played France in ninety seven and the year leading up
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Speaker 1: and Zidan and the shops were one paste.
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Speaker 4: The one won the Wall Cup next year random.
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Speaker 3: Placed like I really like to turn the pace like
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Speaker 3: he was deceptively fast. Play again against a big, powerful.
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Speaker 2: Player as well strong.
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Speaker 5: It's scary feet. The ball come there in his first
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Speaker 5: touch is away with his body. You just can't get
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Speaker 5: near near him. Just a different level.
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Speaker 3: And who the best players that you you come up
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Speaker 3: against playing for Scotland.
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Speaker 5: Said on you, my son, I did he did the
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Speaker 5: relected to get I didn't know in fairness the way
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Speaker 5: the ball went down to him and the kind of
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Speaker 5: I came on it right midfield. He took off Gary
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Speaker 5: Hote who just came on at half time, and he
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Speaker 5: took him off to put me and put me on
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Speaker 5: for him. Although Gary said he was sigling for somebody else,
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Speaker 5: but he was taking them off because of how he
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Speaker 5: was running, just like Tony Bunses, like get him off now.
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Speaker 2: He just came on.
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Speaker 5: So I came on for him, and the ball went
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Speaker 5: down the right back area. And normally I would go
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Speaker 5: to ground and do the scissors and take the ball
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Speaker 5: and the man, but we're four now doing or something
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Speaker 5: at the time, and it was the dan so I
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Speaker 5: just kind of slowed up, stopped my sprint and stood
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Speaker 5: on my feet and I said to my son, I said,
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know what he'd done.
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Speaker 5: He made the ball disappear in front of me, and
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Speaker 5: the all start de France was like I've done yea,
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Speaker 5: I could have done him, and he passed it back
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Speaker 5: to lizarda zoo and over and smashed him and got
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Speaker 5: your little calf. And then years later my boy found
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Speaker 5: it on YouTube, so we got to click and the
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Speaker 5: dance you you see me in tho did you see
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Speaker 5: me just slow up like that and looking for the ball.
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Speaker 5: He just he dangle over there and dragged it. But
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Speaker 5: that was he was kind of the first to kind
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Speaker 5: of do that.
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Speaker 2: That skill.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd never seen that before, but I was more
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Speaker 5: angry for not going to ground and taking him on the.
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Speaker 2: Ball next time.
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Speaker 1: So that we played that was that same stadium then,
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Speaker 1: so who does Scotland play there?
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Speaker 4: BELIVEA.
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Speaker 3: I think that's that's what they're doing with World Cup
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Speaker 3: warrants until you play teams that are like relatively playing.
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Speaker 2: Haiti and Bolivia's.
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Speaker 1: I'm impressed that you're taunting enough saying five or six,
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Speaker 1: it's just we should go and win that one.
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Speaker 3: But I think there's people belong with a historical I like,
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Speaker 3: I think they will go back to like the nineteen
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Speaker 3: World Cup per and Coke Costa Rica as well. The
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Speaker 3: teams that were are like really fancy to go and win.
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Speaker 3: You don't turn up against them. It's it's not we
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Speaker 3: we don't tend to do that. I mean, when's the
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Speaker 3: last time I can remember Scotland like absolutely like.
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Speaker 2: Like thrashing someone. We don't tend to do that enough.
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Speaker 4: I watched this team New Zealand dated too.
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Speaker 1: I watched that popped up Matt Twitter recently and I
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Speaker 1: think we go to up and we're cruising and then
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Speaker 1: we give away two goals and we're going to one
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Speaker 1: five too. But subsequently the two goals put us out
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Speaker 1: really played against the uses and.
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Speaker 4: That game.
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Speaker 2: It was.
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Speaker 5: I'm trying was it my other see my dad. We
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Speaker 5: went to all the games, but the two goals that.
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Speaker 3: It always feels that well with Scotland, we step up
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Speaker 3: really well with the underdogs, you know. I think that
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Speaker 3: when we're coming against like big opposition, we're really good.
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Speaker 3: We can make things awkward for them. I think when
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Speaker 3: there's an expectation for us to go out and win,
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Speaker 3: we can really do that. I mean haven't been at
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Speaker 3: Hamden last couple of times for instance, like I was
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Speaker 3: quite a poor perform as well.
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Speaker 2: We played Belarus a.
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Speaker 3: Couple of months ago and that was a game because
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Speaker 3: like Belarus, we turned them over and Minsk.
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Speaker 2: I think it was when we played them.
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Speaker 3: And then you're taking them back to Glasgow and you're
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Speaker 3: expecting ticket You saw how poor they were there and
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Speaker 3: you're expecting to really go and give them a doing
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Speaker 3: and it was just being you remember when the com
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Speaker 3: mctommeney scored the one and goes like like fuck you
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Speaker 3: can actually you actually see him mount mouthing and that
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Speaker 3: was that felt like a bit of tipping point in
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Speaker 3: how folk were feeling towards it like like Steve Clark
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Speaker 3: and he managed to rescue it back without the game
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Speaker 3: against Denmark. But having been there at the game against Japan,
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Speaker 3: you know, I think folk were just a bit like,
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Speaker 3: let's see, let's see something interesting happening there.
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Speaker 1: At Celtic Supporters Festival from June the fourth to the seventh, myself, Jackie,
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Speaker 4: But to the episode said, yeah, did you go to
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Speaker 4: the last one in Germany?
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Speaker 2: I was at Germany.
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Speaker 3: I was what I was working for that once was
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Speaker 3: it was working for the Scottish Effe doing their Scotland
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Speaker 3: h Q and one of the best experience in my life.
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Speaker 3: Genuinely like such a privilege to be there. So we
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Speaker 3: were based down in Garmish Party Kirking where the Scotland
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Speaker 3: were training. So it was amazing You're getting to you're
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Speaker 3: getting to watch until I shooed off at so I
11:29
Speaker 3: was just sitting there. They hired this, it was like
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Speaker 3: a provincial team. Imagine the equivalent of like Edinburgh City
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Speaker 3: for friends. It is like an or fourth athletic, a
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Speaker 3: sort of team like fairly low down the food chain.
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Speaker 3: They'd hired their their ground. It was all spruced up
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Speaker 3: at their running track round it. They had built like
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Speaker 3: a gym behind the goals for the players and the
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Speaker 3: sort of makeshift like ice baths and stuff for them.
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Speaker 4: With the backdrop with the mountains.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly That's exactly was me.
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Speaker 3: It was on top of that as well, stunning place
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Speaker 3: you come out of your hotels more and see the air,
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Speaker 3: the quality of they have never felt anything like it,
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Speaker 3: proper like Alpine. It was a beautiful, beautiful part of
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Speaker 3: the world. All the houses as well there they all
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Speaker 3: looked like like these huge Shally's.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: They was up there on the stage and there was
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Speaker 3: like one point five million euros was like the starting
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Speaker 3: price to stay there, so really expensive. But to be
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Speaker 3: down there and to see Scotland in action, like getting
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Speaker 3: to interview I'm going to name drop you about like
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Speaker 3: Scott mctommery and Billy Gilmore and John McGinn and to
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Speaker 3: actually see like a production like that in action and
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Speaker 3: just how dependent it was and on Scotland results we
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Speaker 3: were supposed to. The plan was to be doing episodes
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Speaker 3: like every every single day, but we go and play Jemmy,
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Speaker 3: you lose that five to.
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Speaker 2: One and we was like, nos, can it?
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Speaker 3: Well, they do an episode the next day and then
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Speaker 3: it was a case of building excitement up for the
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Speaker 3: Switzerland game, so we spoke to like Lyndon Dykes. He
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Speaker 3: obviously was injured and couldn't participate, but he was there
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Speaker 3: in the camp and all that, so it was great
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Speaker 3: to talk to him, and John McGinn liking the build
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Speaker 3: up to it, and we spoke to like like Billy Gilmore,
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Speaker 3: and then there was the game against Hungry and was
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Speaker 3: supposed to be an episode after that, but it was
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Speaker 3: just like nah, like just can't for there. But it's
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Speaker 3: the first time I'd watched Scotland like away from Glasgow,
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Speaker 3: so it's a brilliant experience, Like go to Cologne, partically
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Speaker 3: for the Switzerland match. What a brilliant place to watch football,
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Speaker 3: and just getting to see Scotland score like a goal
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Speaker 3: actually matter and on the stage, just an incredible experience
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Speaker 3: and and like like if that was the high point,
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Speaker 3: then being in the Stuttgart for the game against Hungary
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Speaker 3: where we you know, we lost in the one hundredth minute.
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Speaker 2: I think it was when I thought that.
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Speaker 4: It's all coming back to me. Do Armstrong was a penalty.
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Speaker 2: It looked like a penalty.
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Speaker 3: We were, we were, we were really close to where
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Speaker 3: it was really close to I was, and it looked
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Speaker 3: like a penalty.
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Speaker 2: It was certainly something that we were were everyone everyone
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Speaker 2: around me was appealing for.
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Speaker 3: But having a chance to watch it back and I'm
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Speaker 3: sure I can't make my mind of it as a penalty,
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Speaker 3: and I.
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Speaker 4: Think it is. Can you remember it?
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Speaker 1: It gets his gets his body in front of the
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Speaker 1: he knows that the HiT's coming and it gets his
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Speaker 1: I think that's what could strikers, all the attackers.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, get your body in front and take the hit.
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Speaker 2: M H.
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Speaker 4: Screaming for it.
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Speaker 3: I didn't like afterwards, like Clark it it was of
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Speaker 3: a South American referee and he came out and criticized
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Speaker 3: like the referee from being from South America, and.
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Speaker 2: It just felt like it felt like a bit of
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Speaker 2: deflection there.
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Speaker 3: For the fact that I can remember as well, I
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Speaker 3: think it was Kenny McLean coming on late on and
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Speaker 3: just knowing what he was supposed to do. I suppose
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Speaker 3: at that point the game is quite key. Lottic care
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Speaker 3: also like just make put us one, make something happen.
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Speaker 3: But it was quite a disappointing way to go out.
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Speaker 3: And I think pound for pound that you were twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty four, we might have been the worst team that
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Speaker 3: we're there.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel when that kind of note because you
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Speaker 1: go back to the the tournament before it was a
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Speaker 1: wee bit kind under after COVID won it, because it
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Speaker 1: didn't feel right completely. I think this group of players
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Speaker 1: feel as if they've gotten finished business because there's quite
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Speaker 1: a lot of them have played at that too high.
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Speaker 1: They've got the experience of the two. Now it's a
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Speaker 1: World Cup, which I always thinks it's another level the
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Speaker 1: world is watching, so to speak. I think that might
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Speaker 1: work for us because those guys there, that's maybe the
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Speaker 1: last character.
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Speaker 3: I think you're right, Yeah, I think I think right
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Speaker 3: like guys is like I don't think like like Kenny McLean,
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Speaker 3: John Suitter, like Craig Gordon, if he goes yeah.
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Speaker 2: They might roberts Andy Robertson just kind of coming out
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Speaker 2: there makes.
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Speaker 1: Sure as I have to've still got that little bit
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Speaker 1: to prove on that stage.
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Speaker 2: I think you're right.
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Speaker 3: I think I don't think we really saw the best
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Speaker 3: of ourselves at Euro twenty twenty. We're good against England.
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Speaker 3: I thought we gave England a bit of a hard
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Speaker 3: game and need remember like Steven O'Donnell pocket and Jack grealish,
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Speaker 3: and it was great because yeah, he did he did
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Speaker 3: have us right quite early on didn' he had a
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Speaker 3: shot past the post and that was really good because
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Speaker 3: o'donald came under quite a bit of criticism against for
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Speaker 3: the Force, against the Chechno of public and so for
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Speaker 3: him to really step up against a much superior opposition
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Speaker 3: it was great.
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Speaker 2: But then you play against Croatian, I can someone were like.
15:40
Speaker 3: Look a Modrich just absolutely running the show like it
15:43
Speaker 3: was just could couldn't get near him. So we're talking
15:45
Speaker 3: to to Sedan like his next touch is he's already
15:48
Speaker 3: he's already seen so when he takes the ball. He
15:51
Speaker 3: just is so good at playing space himself, and he
15:52
Speaker 3: scored I think scored one of the goals of the
15:54
Speaker 3: tournament there as well, didn't He sort of folly from
15:56
Speaker 3: the from the edge of the box.
15:58
Speaker 2: So I think you're right.
15:58
Speaker 3: I don't think we gave a good account ourselves at
16:00
Speaker 3: Euro twenty twenty or Euro twenty twenty four. So this
16:03
Speaker 3: is a good chance to make amends and hopefully against Haiti.
16:06
Speaker 3: I know we've got a slight reservations about that game,
16:08
Speaker 3: but that's the kind of match that we can go
16:10
Speaker 3: out and really and show what we can do.
16:11
Speaker 4: I've got that's from.
16:15
Speaker 2: Dogs, it is.
16:16
Speaker 5: But I just feeling the press.
16:18
Speaker 4: Because something's got to give another game. Sorry, sets up
16:22
Speaker 4: nicely if we can.
16:23
Speaker 2: Get the back and they're good, they're good size like Morocco.
16:25
Speaker 3: I know they kind of got awarded at retrospectively, but
16:27
Speaker 3: then being like the African Cup of Nations holders, and
16:30
Speaker 3: I know that this isn't necessarily like a vintage Brazilti.
16:32
Speaker 2: It's still like a team that we played at ninety eight.
16:35
Speaker 3: I mean there's when you go through like like looking
16:38
Speaker 3: at the team, I can't believe Brown going through somebody's like,
16:41
Speaker 3: was it CAFU was.
16:41
Speaker 5: Playing CAFU the better, Carlos Valdo frightening the better. So
16:49
Speaker 5: that the big thing was when their team came in
16:52
Speaker 5: the Brazilian team, He's taught Danielson would be starting because
16:55
Speaker 5: he had a good season. Yeah, I think it was
16:57
Speaker 5: it better in the but he says, all great news.
17:02
Speaker 5: He says he's going for the Bettle again. He's turned
17:09
Speaker 5: the Davy whare. He's got Hearts. At the time he
17:12
Speaker 5: says he can't get he can't get a club. He
17:14
Speaker 5: sees in fact Davey's tried to get in at Hearts perhaps.
17:19
Speaker 2: Like the Bettles try.
17:21
Speaker 5: Again at Hearts.
17:22
Speaker 2: You know he's.
17:24
Speaker 5: And he was class the Beetles class. And then after
17:28
Speaker 5: the game, do you know trying to swap strips away
17:31
Speaker 5: I tried to get I go for Bettle's top.
17:33
Speaker 2: You've Goto's top.
17:34
Speaker 5: Yeah.
17:36
Speaker 1: We go out now after the game, So the guys
17:38
Speaker 1: that don't play go out to do a little bit
17:40
Speaker 1: running naturally.
17:41
Speaker 2: After they normally do.
17:42
Speaker 1: But because Brazil on town, because the Sky gets into
17:45
Speaker 1: the desker room to swap gets number seven be Bettle.
17:49
Speaker 1: So the brazil players are doing their running after it
17:51
Speaker 1: and Daniels and the guy he's just said to you,
17:54
Speaker 1: he's out running, and I says, right, here's my opportunity.
17:56
Speaker 4: And he's coming up the tunnel. I was like, what
17:57
Speaker 4: a swap? Me writ though, just.
18:01
Speaker 2: Want yourn.
18:03
Speaker 4: So he tormented me for the rest of the trip.
18:05
Speaker 4: But does he get number seven? Bad numbers?
18:07
Speaker 2: Who's the best?
18:08
Speaker 3: Like ins of like swapping shirts, who's the who's the
18:11
Speaker 3: most high profile shot?
18:11
Speaker 2: You've got the collection I've got?
18:13
Speaker 4: I had that game that was the game in ninety seven.
18:17
Speaker 4: I got Lauren Blong. Oh nice, it was the one.
18:20
Speaker 4: But now the laces Man you had the kind of
18:22
Speaker 4: of that.
18:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rangers. Rangers had something quite something.
18:27
Speaker 4: That would probably be the highest profile I swapped.
18:31
Speaker 1: Back then, you didn't really you had to keep your
18:34
Speaker 1: jerseys more often right now nowadays they swap out.
18:36
Speaker 2: After get like three shirts or something.
18:39
Speaker 1: Game, So want to keep one you got in and
18:42
Speaker 1: give Highlands the bettle but battles had.
18:44
Speaker 5: The Battle Donald Daniels game again, but actually depending on
18:52
Speaker 5: the game, keep my own one. Yeah, it's like yes,
18:55
Speaker 5: I cut final yeah, or a big top on one
18:59
Speaker 5: of my own about with Scotland, what I think it
19:02
Speaker 5: was a flowing Norway. The second game I swapped. I'm
19:06
Speaker 5: sure it was maybe a flow and something one Morocco.
19:10
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't I've still got that on,
19:14
Speaker 5: did you know. I was just gutted as well.
19:21
Speaker 3: We had the we Craig Brown on an episode review
19:23
Speaker 3: for The Terrace a couple of years ago, and brilliant company.
19:26
Speaker 3: You know, just just think you could look it honestly
19:28
Speaker 3: kind It's just like you do the way you guys
19:29
Speaker 3: are talking to you could hang off as every word
19:31
Speaker 3: you're You're like you just want.
19:32
Speaker 2: To hear his stories.
19:33
Speaker 3: And he came prepared like a like the stats in
19:37
Speaker 3: the game against Morocco and like a whee laminate folder.
19:40
Speaker 3: And he still was still really annoyed that Archie McPherson
19:43
Speaker 3: was really critical of Scotland's performance. Now, it was a
19:45
Speaker 3: long time since since I remember. I remember I would
19:48
Speaker 3: have been about twelve at the time. I remember thinking
19:51
Speaker 3: would absolutely destroy them. I've never heard the Morocco before.
19:53
Speaker 3: I could even point that the team felt.
19:59
Speaker 2: That was it. That's exactly what he was talking about.
20:01
Speaker 3: The stats, like talking about possession and corners, and I
20:03
Speaker 3: remember seeing that, well, I mean they ultimately beat us
20:06
Speaker 3: where it's most important, putting the.
20:07
Speaker 2: Ball in the back of it and cmember Jim late
20:09
Speaker 2: and getting loved in his line.
20:10
Speaker 3: So that was a Haggie, but he was a Coventry
20:12
Speaker 3: that they were there, really good Hagie, cheap pole and
20:20
Speaker 3: that was that was what Graig.
20:22
Speaker 2: Bully gets sent off.
20:25
Speaker 5: And Brune he gets sent off because he died, sent them.
20:31
Speaker 1: Off for I think the remaining team if you remember
20:33
Speaker 1: remember that before had done that.
20:38
Speaker 4: I think it was that that to them was they
20:40
Speaker 4: all get.
20:42
Speaker 1: Brownie gave us one afternoon off and Buddy disappeared and
20:46
Speaker 1: came back there.
20:48
Speaker 4: Raise his profile a little bit more than the next game.
20:53
Speaker 4: Good memories.
20:54
Speaker 1: So let's take it back then to we're talking about
20:57
Speaker 1: the World Cup. Back to domestic your team of just
21:00
Speaker 1: been pipped the titles are.
21:03
Speaker 3: Get out of the playoffs, I Stennis Muir, it was
21:05
Speaker 3: a more stress you know something that the season that
21:09
Speaker 3: season there's been probably we won the league in twenty
21:11
Speaker 3: three twenty four, which was incredible. So that's the first
21:14
Speaker 3: that's the first time the team I've ever lefted a
21:15
Speaker 3: title on their history one hundred and forty year history
21:17
Speaker 3: and had very little show on the park. Of course
21:20
Speaker 3: it was man course was it was amazing. It was
21:22
Speaker 3: like so cathartic and just going out there and just
21:26
Speaker 3: what they thank the players who had which it was
21:28
Speaker 3: an amazing season, absolutely amazing. This season has been I
21:31
Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's been better, but it's probably like as fun,
21:34
Speaker 3: but for a different way. I think at the beginning
21:35
Speaker 3: of the campaign we had been told that there had
21:38
Speaker 3: been budget cuts that Gary Smith was working with like
21:41
Speaker 3: just budget and we'd kept on a lot of players.
21:43
Speaker 3: I went a lot of guys coming in in pre season.
21:45
Speaker 3: I think we found it really difficult to sign players.
21:48
Speaker 3: We started the season where basically we had like two
21:51
Speaker 3: subs on the bench for the a League Cup game
21:53
Speaker 3: against Morton. The following match in the League Cup we're
21:55
Speaker 3: playing against Motherwell and in this postmatch into you Nasa
21:58
Speaker 3: said we'd actually were and templating right into the SPFL
22:01
Speaker 3: looking to forfeit the game because he just didn't have
22:03
Speaker 3: a squad they could put out. So our expectations were
22:06
Speaker 3: quite low going into the season. And it's the fact
22:08
Speaker 3: that you're going right up to the very last day
22:10
Speaker 3: taking on Inverness Caladi and so could not be more
22:13
Speaker 3: proud that the team every weekend, that's in fact every
22:16
Speaker 3: week that's all it was geared to, just like counting
22:19
Speaker 3: down the days to get to the weekend to go
22:20
Speaker 3: watch the football.
22:21
Speaker 2: And we go all over the country, like up to.
22:23
Speaker 3: Co Rangers, to to to peter Head, to Invernest, like
22:26
Speaker 3: down to the Queen of the South and it was great.
22:28
Speaker 3: It's been a brilliant season and never a million years
22:31
Speaker 3: thought the team would finish in the second place, never
22:33
Speaker 3: in a million years think the team would actually be challenging,
22:35
Speaker 3: like for the title up into the to the very end.
22:38
Speaker 3: So we go against Queen of the South, who we've
22:39
Speaker 3: got a decent record against.
22:41
Speaker 2: Over the piece there are there are.
22:42
Speaker 3: A good side quite similar to Tennesspe in terms of
22:44
Speaker 3: the profile of the players in terms of the like
22:46
Speaker 3: a lot of physicality, a lot of trickery in the wings.
22:48
Speaker 2: Like like good players.
22:50
Speaker 3: And I think that that the manager Peter Murphy, when
22:52
Speaker 3: we had we'd beaten them to now it was very
22:55
Speaker 3: the world. I thought he was quite disrespectful the way
22:57
Speaker 3: he spoke with them. He said, you know they got
22:59
Speaker 3: they go to their business. Well, you know they they've
23:01
Speaker 3: got a certain style of player. I thought he was
23:04
Speaker 3: quite like playing down. I think he was annoyed that
23:06
Speaker 3: Stenny had had beaten complaining about that the park and
23:09
Speaker 3: plain about injuries and that because of.
23:11
Speaker 2: Because of the park. So it was quite good to
23:12
Speaker 2: quite good to get up him.
23:14
Speaker 3: And so I'm hoping, I'm hoping we've got a chance
23:17
Speaker 3: to beat them, and the thought of like playing championship
23:20
Speaker 3: football next season.
23:21
Speaker 2: I mean it's a tough game. Like Edge and Aloe
23:23
Speaker 2: are good sides.
23:24
Speaker 3: I think I think Ergia are probably the famous I
23:26
Speaker 3: was at there game against Good at Morton on Friday
23:29
Speaker 3: right when they do when they drew one one with him.
23:31
Speaker 2: I think they're a good team, you know.
23:32
Speaker 3: I think they got a lot of good players in
23:34
Speaker 3: the team, like to pass the ball, a lot of
23:35
Speaker 3: good combinations in the park, like a guy like Chris
23:38
Speaker 3: Mokry up front, who's quite like not you're an orthodox striker,
23:42
Speaker 3: the fact he's almost like a false nine you and
23:44
Speaker 3: Henderson playing off them. They're gonna be a tough team,
23:47
Speaker 3: but you know, I never thought that we'd be challenges
23:49
Speaker 3: of the title, So who knows, who knows happened?
23:51
Speaker 4: He's quite a young team.
23:52
Speaker 3: I think it's a good profile and there's a couple
23:54
Speaker 3: of older guys there, like guys like Buchanan, Darren Jamison,
23:58
Speaker 3: Dale Carrick from The Heart's Player there and Ross Meek
24:01
Speaker 3: and the other guys who are like over over thirty.
24:04
Speaker 2: The rest of the team, it's all like sort of
24:05
Speaker 2: like mid twenties, some teenagers in there.
24:07
Speaker 4: Guys.
24:08
Speaker 1: I've seen a clip on I think it was Twitter.
24:11
Speaker 1: They were coming back to the stadium after the game. Yeah,
24:13
Speaker 1: there's a few of the guys. You've got a bar
24:15
Speaker 1: at the they were kind of out clapping them back
24:18
Speaker 1: and every every kid that walked by, I was like,
24:21
Speaker 1: this looks a bodybe just same really young eye.
24:25
Speaker 2: It was good good players as well.
24:26
Speaker 3: It's like first and foremost like guys that are like
24:29
Speaker 3: like technically really good players, guys that can get and
24:33
Speaker 3: just guys that are really fit and guys that really
24:35
Speaker 3: fit into what Nesmith wants to do. There's that there's a
24:36
Speaker 3: lot of emphasis on like like what being good without
24:40
Speaker 3: the ball. He was talking around an interview. He was
24:42
Speaker 3: talking about Ollie White, who we've gotten loan from mother. Well,
24:44
Speaker 3: you know, when the players that come through the cooperation
24:46
Speaker 3: agreement between the clubs, all of White's been brilliant. He
24:48
Speaker 3: was saying that when we played Falkirk in the Scottish Cup,
24:51
Speaker 3: it went to one hundred and twenty minutes, went to
24:54
Speaker 3: extra time, only White it covered seventeen kilometers over the
24:57
Speaker 3: course of that game.
24:58
Speaker 2: And there's there's a lot of other players that can
25:00
Speaker 2: that can do that.
25:01
Speaker 3: So it's legs and quality and technical ability and pace
25:04
Speaker 3: and abundance and just like guys that it's not something
25:08
Speaker 3: I've really seen it stendess me before, but it's guys
25:09
Speaker 3: that have been there for like a long time. Normally,
25:11
Speaker 3: you know, the lower leaves of the churned. Guys are
25:13
Speaker 3: there for like one season, two season, move on the
25:15
Speaker 3: core of the team. There's like Darren jameson greg By
25:17
Speaker 3: Cannon coming for the fourth year at the club, Like
25:20
Speaker 3: Mikey Anderson next year he's going to be in a
25:22
Speaker 3: six year rossmaking across two spells.
25:24
Speaker 2: He's going to his eighth year.
25:25
Speaker 3: There's a lot of continuity there and as a fan,
25:27
Speaker 3: it's brilliant as guys that you are like really identifiable with.
25:31
Speaker 4: And Van.
25:34
Speaker 3: Absolutely and yeah together, yeah totally too much, totally. I
25:42
Speaker 3: think I think are going to change a wee bit now.
25:45
Speaker 3: There's going to be a couple of guys. I think
25:47
Speaker 3: it's like Gary Oliver, Alfreyagum and Tom Lang who were
25:49
Speaker 3: really good for them when they were in like League
25:51
Speaker 3: One and the championship.
25:52
Speaker 2: But I think the club's probably evolved past them a
25:55
Speaker 2: wee bit.
25:58
Speaker 3: Probably the championship that is the ceiling for a part
26:02
Speaker 3: time team, and it'd be great if we could do it.
26:04
Speaker 3: And it's the same guys, like the same back for
26:06
Speaker 3: the same goalkeeper who won League Two.
26:08
Speaker 2: That you can go up and hopefully hold your own
26:11
Speaker 2: in a division above. It's great. It's a total gift.
26:13
Speaker 3: They've been following the club for more than twenty years
26:15
Speaker 3: and the last like three and a hal years pretty
26:16
Speaker 3: much since Nathanuth walked down the door. I've just been incredible.
26:19
Speaker 3: Can'ry thank him enough?
26:22
Speaker 5: Even the part time one, even the championship and our
26:24
Speaker 5: broth well they have done yeah, getting into the playoffs.
26:28
Speaker 3: Incredible because they when David Gold and Colin Hamilton took over,
26:32
Speaker 3: they were bought in the League one that time and
26:34
Speaker 3: they've they've done really well.
26:36
Speaker 2: In terms of the guys.
26:37
Speaker 3: They will say, I know that our browth, I've got
26:38
Speaker 3: a bit more money compared to some other like part
26:41
Speaker 3: time teams. I was at gay Field earlier in the season.
26:45
Speaker 3: That the first thing I've been there a number of years,
26:46
Speaker 3: and just like seeing how like spruced up it is.
26:48
Speaker 3: The money it's not just been put on the playing
26:50
Speaker 3: staff in the infantry as well as like a really
26:53
Speaker 3: nice office and club shopping there.
26:55
Speaker 2: It's great, but it still retains the charm of Gayfield.
26:58
Speaker 3: You can still walk around the you can still walk
27:00
Speaker 3: around the pitch, so they've they've done really well.
27:03
Speaker 2: It's not outside the realms of possibility. You know.
27:05
Speaker 3: It's better to be like a like a good part
27:07
Speaker 3: time team rather like a mediocre full time team. I
27:09
Speaker 3: think that, like when I'm talking about fitness there, I
27:11
Speaker 3: think there's guys who want to be good football players.
27:15
Speaker 3: They've completely committed to being football players. And even if
27:17
Speaker 3: you're part time, guys that look after themselves outside the game, Guys.
27:20
Speaker 2: That take it really seriously to eat right.
27:22
Speaker 3: They're at the gym, like if they're not when they're
27:24
Speaker 3: not training at the gym doing running and exercising. And
27:27
Speaker 3: I think we've got a lot of guys that that
27:29
Speaker 3: really look after themselves.
27:30
Speaker 2: And I think that's it doesn't matter if you're full
27:32
Speaker 2: to a party.
27:32
Speaker 3: Also, we've got more time like to talk and shape
27:35
Speaker 3: and and stuff like that. But if you're looking after
27:37
Speaker 3: yourself and you you all buy into what the manager's
27:39
Speaker 3: looking to do, then that's a huge advantage.
27:41
Speaker 4: To start the playoffs Friday.
27:44
Speaker 3: They start the playoffs on I think Friday. I am
27:48
Speaker 3: just at home. First, we're away at Queen's. Unfortunately, I'm
27:52
Speaker 3: not going to I'm not going to be able to
27:53
Speaker 3: to make either game. I've got that a dinner out
27:55
Speaker 3: on Tuesday night, and then I've got I'm coming up
27:58
Speaker 3: for my fortieth is is next week and so my
28:01
Speaker 3: makes have organized like a day out for me on
28:03
Speaker 3: the Saturday. So I'm really looking forward to it. But
28:05
Speaker 3: it's just sort of we'll be like half half looking
28:07
Speaker 3: at the phone. It's the entire time. If we do
28:11
Speaker 3: make it into the finals, the final is taking place
28:13
Speaker 3: at some Saturday, the sixteenth and a half five kickoff.
28:16
Speaker 3: It's been moved for the television supposed to have a
28:18
Speaker 3: family dinner. I've had to say to them, listen, we
28:21
Speaker 3: might need to. We might need to to arrange because
28:24
Speaker 3: the prospect of like seeing the team getting promoted to
28:26
Speaker 3: the championship and not being there to do it. I
28:28
Speaker 3: couldn't like after the season, missing the Chemi finals maybe
28:31
Speaker 3: that's one thing, but the finals.
28:33
Speaker 2: Couldn't couldn't miss that, not a chance.
28:35
Speaker 1: So career wise obviously described at the start as the
28:38
Speaker 1: man off the teley? Where where where did you go
28:41
Speaker 1: from school? How did you your career?
28:43
Speaker 3: So from from school I went to study Dinglis's at
28:47
Speaker 3: University of Glasgow and basically didn't take it as seriously
28:50
Speaker 3: as I should have done. You know, basically I kind
28:51
Speaker 3: of went went to lectures like just mucked her out
28:54
Speaker 3: that didn't and didn't didn't didn't work is hard as
28:57
Speaker 3: I sure have done, and left with a pretty a
28:58
Speaker 3: pretty mediocre degree, to be honest, and then went into
29:01
Speaker 3: work at like call center, working, and and so I
29:04
Speaker 3: was just kind of like drifting a period. I was
29:07
Speaker 3: playing in a band a period as well, And I
29:09
Speaker 3: don't know if it was like thinking, oh, I'm going
29:12
Speaker 3: to make it, so that's your excuse not to work
29:15
Speaker 3: work hard academically because you've got this in the back
29:17
Speaker 3: burner and you can maybe go and kick on and
29:19
Speaker 3: become become a musician. But I got a chance to
29:22
Speaker 3: go back to university of a friend of mine who
29:25
Speaker 3: I went to went to Glasgow with, who had gone
29:27
Speaker 3: to the Glassow Calidor University study of postgrad in multimedia journalism.
29:31
Speaker 3: And off the back of her qualification she went to
29:33
Speaker 3: work for the BBC's like a researcher for the Jewels
29:36
Speaker 3: Holland Show. So she was getting to like work with
29:39
Speaker 3: like I think she meant like you too, and muse
29:41
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, so really like like topping. And
29:43
Speaker 3: she was telling about the course and saying like this,
29:46
Speaker 3: it's brilliant. I had a great time and I've gone
29:48
Speaker 3: I didn't eat. She didn't even finish it because when
29:51
Speaker 3: when she did a work experience at the BBC, there
29:54
Speaker 3: was somebody leaving and she got on so well. Then
29:56
Speaker 3: they offered her the person is the person's jobs, so
29:58
Speaker 3: she didn't even complete it. She just got and see
30:00
Speaker 3: you got into it. So I applied for it off
30:02
Speaker 3: the back of that and it was lucky enough to
30:05
Speaker 3: get in. And when I was doing the course, I
30:08
Speaker 3: was viewing Twitter a lot of the time. I was
30:09
Speaker 3: talking to a boy, John Maxwell, who's a Ross County fan,
30:12
Speaker 3: and we were talking about how there's nothing there's not
30:14
Speaker 3: like a quality website for like lower league Scottish football.
30:17
Speaker 2: He's a Ross County fan.
30:18
Speaker 3: This is the period where they were they've gone like
30:21
Speaker 3: forty forty games on beating when they won the first
30:23
Speaker 3: Division and went into the championship under den Ack Adams,
30:26
Speaker 3: I think it was. But we were talking about how
30:29
Speaker 3: there's not like a really good place for lower league Scottish.
30:32
Speaker 3: So we started this website, brought another couple of guys
30:35
Speaker 3: Sean mcgiggan who would a view for the Terrace with
30:36
Speaker 3: as well. He was one of the guys, and off
30:38
Speaker 3: the back of that we did it for like three years.
30:40
Speaker 3: One of the teams we covered the remember like yeah
30:42
Speaker 3: you Party Thistle team. We wrote a lot about them
30:45
Speaker 3: because they were they were like probably pound for pound,
30:47
Speaker 3: I think one of the best lower league teams of
30:48
Speaker 3: all time, absolutely like superb side, privileged to write about.
30:52
Speaker 3: And then off the back of that, Craig Fowler, who
30:55
Speaker 3: runs a Terrace podcast, got in touch and said they
30:57
Speaker 3: were looking to expand their coverage away from just talking
31:00
Speaker 3: at the top flight into the lower leagues. Would like
31:02
Speaker 3: to be involved as like one hundred percent and so
31:04
Speaker 3: had been involved with the terryst podcast ever since come
31:08
Speaker 3: to the summer at twenty eighteen.
31:10
Speaker 2: So that's a long story, but this is just the contexts.
31:12
Speaker 3: Come to summer twenty eighteen, the BBC Scotland Channel was
31:15
Speaker 3: in the process of launching and Craig Feller got a
31:18
Speaker 3: DM on Twitter from a guy, David Taran, who's like
31:20
Speaker 3: a commissioner at the BBC Big Hearts Fan and I
31:22
Speaker 3: had listened to the terryst podcast and he explain to him,
31:25
Speaker 3: We've got this hour long slot that's opening up for
31:28
Speaker 3: like a magazine style football show. Could the Terrorist podcast
31:32
Speaker 3: be turned into a TV show? And so one of
31:35
Speaker 3: the guys who's involved with Terras Boys, Robert Borthwick, was
31:38
Speaker 3: working for a creative agency at the time, Studio Something.
31:40
Speaker 3: All very serendipitous and they were looking to break into television.
31:44
Speaker 3: So Fowler met with Jordan Lairdonian Greenhill, who owned Studio Something,
31:48
Speaker 3: and the discussions got underway. We were giving money to
31:50
Speaker 3: shoot a pilot, filmed it in Leath and we just
31:53
Speaker 3: thought like, this is just going to be a class
31:54
Speaker 3: week thing we got made.
31:55
Speaker 2: I've made a TV show. They'll never go anywhere.
31:57
Speaker 3: I think there was us and it's like four other
31:59
Speaker 3: people competing for it like some high profile mings.
32:01
Speaker 2: We just thought like this'd be a good laugh, let's
32:04
Speaker 2: see how we get on.
32:05
Speaker 3: And then a couple of months later find out that
32:06
Speaker 3: we had been picked, and it was like incredible, you know,
32:09
Speaker 3: to hang out with your mates talk about football, all
32:11
Speaker 3: levels of football, the kind of not just like focusing
32:13
Speaker 3: on like Rangers and Celtic and Scotland. You're talking about
32:16
Speaker 3: like ann and breaking and counting beef and all that.
32:19
Speaker 3: And that was twenty nineteen and it's been going since then.
32:23
Speaker 3: So we're not one hundred percent sure of it's going
32:24
Speaker 3: to be coming back, you know, it's a bit of
32:26
Speaker 3: a tough economic climate for the for the BBC and
32:28
Speaker 3: for the BBC Scotland Channel, but hope, hopefully we can
32:31
Speaker 3: come back for season number nine. So it's been it's
32:34
Speaker 3: been amazing fun to do. And that's obviously how I
32:36
Speaker 3: got to know jackiecause Jackie was one of the guests.
32:39
Speaker 4: He was and it wasn't my finest hour, was it?
32:42
Speaker 4: On Twitter? One night took osten.
32:45
Speaker 2: That that's why I know something.
32:47
Speaker 3: Actually, I'd actually completely forgotten about it until when Jackied
32:50
Speaker 3: got in. All because because Jackie actually reminded me about
32:58
Speaker 3: that and I went back and I went back and looked,
33:00
Speaker 3: and I thought it was quite.
33:01
Speaker 2: Funny because I just I've met you in the past, simeon.
33:04
Speaker 3: Night we'd work together at the Scottish Cup events.
33:07
Speaker 4: Was on your show not long after because it brought.
33:10
Speaker 3: It was like listen, I I you know something. I
33:17
Speaker 3: understand why people might not necessarily like of you for
33:20
Speaker 3: the terrace.
33:20
Speaker 2: You know. It's like it's I think and maybe I've
33:24
Speaker 2: changed the wee bit.
33:24
Speaker 1: Now I'm not just saying this because it's actually grown
33:27
Speaker 1: on as that's good time you're talking about that thing
33:36
Speaker 1: as well. Was it less of Hammon? And we were
33:39
Speaker 1: doing a it.
33:39
Speaker 2: Was me, you, Jerry Crawley and Liam Craig, Yes.
33:42
Speaker 1: Slam Craig and I've walked into the room and I've
33:44
Speaker 1: seen your hosting it and I thought.
33:47
Speaker 4: This could be uncomfortable, but it was actually I.
33:49
Speaker 2: Was brilliant, you know that. It was. The event itself
33:52
Speaker 2: was really good.
33:52
Speaker 3: But I remember, like beforehand, we were in one of
33:54
Speaker 3: the rooms in the GM macallene pavilion there and it
33:57
Speaker 3: was just just before us and we're sitting around the
33:59
Speaker 3: table like doing just now and I think we were
34:01
Speaker 3: talking about like youth football and youth development, and I
34:04
Speaker 3: was just like, I've got I was like a big
34:06
Speaker 3: interesting I was just asking questions and it was just
34:08
Speaker 3: amazing listen to like folk just it was a really
34:11
Speaker 3: really interesting discussion. I mean, so I was just like
34:14
Speaker 3: that that's brilliant and that like say that the event
34:16
Speaker 3: went really well. So I can there was never any
34:18
Speaker 3: of what was doing.
34:19
Speaker 2: We were like pull you up or anything like that.
34:21
Speaker 2: I can understand me. But you know, you know something
34:25
Speaker 2: that it's like it's to begin with.
34:27
Speaker 3: When the show first went out in twenty nineteen, you know,
34:30
Speaker 3: it's very different to wat's out there. You know, we're
34:33
Speaker 3: seeing it.
34:33
Speaker 2: It's not as unusual you know, fanly content. You're seeing
34:36
Speaker 2: a lot of the like Sky.
34:37
Speaker 3: Sports for instance, they're producing a lot of programs where
34:40
Speaker 3: there's finally content. But I'd think back in twenty nineteen,
34:42
Speaker 3: there wasn't as much of it there, and I think
34:45
Speaker 3: people might watch it and be like the fuck are
34:46
Speaker 3: these guys what they talking about? And the way the
34:48
Speaker 3: show's presented as well, it's it's there's like different rappers.
34:52
Speaker 3: There's like ones called like you Build you Ultimate five Team,
34:54
Speaker 3: like the guys that are doing well. So say, for instance,
34:58
Speaker 3: Martin Giggan, we'll take take take big, big market Gunhew
35:01
Speaker 3: that party because you can put them on your five
35:03
Speaker 3: team and basically a chance to bring clips of Martin
35:05
Speaker 3: mcgag and scoring goals and talking about them and just
35:07
Speaker 3: the way it's done is basically just a discussion about football.
35:10
Speaker 3: But it's got an interesting wrapper on it, and I
35:12
Speaker 3: can understand people watching it and not liking it a
35:15
Speaker 3: bit weird that first, you know, when when you first
35:17
Speaker 3: see the criticism on Twitter, you would work really hard
35:20
Speaker 3: to pull episodes together and you think this is this
35:23
Speaker 3: is great, We've got something more really proud of, and
35:25
Speaker 3: it goes out to this is fucking shite. You know,
35:27
Speaker 3: it's quite weird to but now it's something you see criticism,
35:30
Speaker 3: it's like, it's just it's a bit bad when it's
35:35
Speaker 3: come for guys. So you mail for your sticker books
35:36
Speaker 3: and you saw a chair for Scotland.
35:38
Speaker 2: That's that's a bit.
35:39
Speaker 3: That's a bit different. But but I get I get it,
35:41
Speaker 3: and what I what I do quite quite like. And
35:43
Speaker 3: just what you're saying there is like people who maybe
35:45
Speaker 3: have slagged off in the past, but see I'll give
35:47
Speaker 3: us another chance and they're actually Nactually I quite quite
35:50
Speaker 3: like it.
35:50
Speaker 2: I can quite end it.
35:51
Speaker 3: So that's that's nice because it was on It was
35:56
Speaker 3: the knowledge that you guys had the lower leagues, Yeah,
35:59
Speaker 3: because they age. You said that this is as a
36:02
Speaker 3: premier and I think there's so many of we hidden
36:05
Speaker 3: gems on total leagues that get a chance to play,
36:08
Speaker 3: you know. The biggest obviously one has been Andy Robertson
36:11
Speaker 3: over the year Queen's part for League Two that we
36:14
Speaker 3: took up the road.
36:15
Speaker 5: But I always looked at the lower leagues. I always
36:17
Speaker 5: looked at the kids here get just getting them playing
36:20
Speaker 5: the experience, you know, because I think in today's football
36:23
Speaker 5: it's difficult to get them competitive games. Yeah, you know,
36:27
Speaker 5: if they don't, if they're not good enough at sixteen
36:30
Speaker 5: eighteen to go into a first team, let go.
36:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know I wasn't ready at that age.
36:37
Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but maybe you were. You
36:40
Speaker 5: just getting Breaklant and Celtic, but it's so difficult.
36:43
Speaker 4: It was different for us.
36:44
Speaker 1: We touched on it before about the reserve football back
36:47
Speaker 1: when we were playing.
36:47
Speaker 3: It was remember something that discussion was that proper you
36:50
Speaker 3: were playing the proper seeing your pros were you were
36:53
Speaker 3: playing against seing your pros.
36:54
Speaker 1: I remember playing against Hats at ten Castle and Emmon
36:57
Speaker 1: Barnon was playing sweeper. I had watched them and Bannon
37:00
Speaker 1: flying up and down the wind for Dundee righted and
37:02
Speaker 1: he was playing at sweeper. Any more or less than
37:04
Speaker 1: they gave me a kick, But it was a lesson
37:06
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, so that when they jump to first
37:10
Speaker 1: team football, it wasn't as huge who it is nowadays.
37:12
Speaker 4: I think it is you know, the pol stuff.
37:14
Speaker 1: It's such a big gap to get there, and I
37:17
Speaker 1: think the reserve football I I take now squad sizes
37:21
Speaker 1: and stuff. It can't we can't do it. But looking
37:23
Speaker 1: back I would change that. That was great education for us.
37:27
Speaker 3: Making sure as well. I think that's why the cooperation
37:29
Speaker 3: agreement is good. Like I think you've the clubs have
37:32
Speaker 3: got to work hard with one of us. So I mean,
37:34
Speaker 3: I'm going to use the aample like annonn Athletic went
37:36
Speaker 3: into a cooperation agreement with kil Marnik and like they think,
37:39
Speaker 3: they took four players on loan, two of them were
37:41
Speaker 3: sent back like after a couple of weeks. Well, I
37:42
Speaker 3: Gibson speaking just says like they're just not ready. They've
37:45
Speaker 3: done the more that I can't. They're not ready to
37:48
Speaker 3: play for ann and so that they're well off it.
37:50
Speaker 3: But you look at a good example like Ala and Rangers.
37:54
Speaker 3: There's a number of good players they like think like
37:56
Speaker 3: Calum Burnside, Calum Adams and Lewis Stewart have come on
37:59
Speaker 3: for Readers now, but not they're going to be good
38:00
Speaker 3: enough for Rangers as a as a different story, because
38:02
Speaker 3: I's very rare that that young players like breaking a Rangers.
38:06
Speaker 3: But these guys have got a season on their belts
38:08
Speaker 3: playing competitive football that will hold them in brilliant instead
38:11
Speaker 3: for the for careers. Allie White is it ex Tennismere.
38:14
Speaker 3: I think he's got a right good chance. He's a big,
38:17
Speaker 3: strong boy as well, the way he runs quite like
38:19
Speaker 3: John McGain, the way he can.
38:20
Speaker 2: Sort of like pass players.
38:22
Speaker 3: So you hopefully that that he can make an impact
38:24
Speaker 3: a mother will or go on loan in the championship
38:27
Speaker 3: or elsewhere. I think it's one of the benefits about
38:29
Speaker 3: being a part time team as well. The parent club
38:31
Speaker 3: can keep an eye on you and you can show
38:32
Speaker 3: you and then you can you can send off to
38:34
Speaker 3: like one night a week and then and get the games.
38:36
Speaker 3: But it's a I think that the developing youth players.
38:38
Speaker 3: I think you ask a hundred different people, you'll probably
38:40
Speaker 3: a hundred different answers. Is to the best way, to
38:43
Speaker 3: the best way.
38:43
Speaker 2: To do it?
38:44
Speaker 4: Follow that I will, I'll give you the apologies.
38:51
Speaker 2: Please, I'm pleasing with the chance to you watch it
38:54
Speaker 2: and you've enjoyed it.
38:55
Speaker 4: You mentioned a band that you played in a band
38:57
Speaker 4: I did.
38:58
Speaker 3: What was your role that I played the best guitar,
39:00
Speaker 3: played the bass guitar. I've always always wanted to play
39:05
Speaker 3: the bass guitar because I like it was a terrible name.
39:08
Speaker 2: Were called Marlowe, which is just what it sounds like
39:10
Speaker 2: a dog. You know.
39:13
Speaker 3: No under the band didn't make it. No on the
39:15
Speaker 3: band didn't make it. But I played played the bass guitar.
39:18
Speaker 3: Always members a wee boy wanted to play the bass guitar.
39:21
Speaker 3: I just think it looked really cool. You know, that's
39:22
Speaker 3: sort of like a quite a physical instrument. You know,
39:25
Speaker 3: like what you see that somebody playing with the players,
39:27
Speaker 3: and why why is this? Why is this person like
39:28
Speaker 3: playing with their fingers and I like my parents parents separated,
39:33
Speaker 3: my stepdad moved.
39:33
Speaker 2: Into the house and he had like guitars with him.
39:35
Speaker 3: He's a guitar player, so it was like acoustic guitars
39:37
Speaker 3: and electric guitars are in the house. And when my
39:40
Speaker 3: dad met my step mom, my stepbrother Christopher calls Himkippi.
39:43
Speaker 3: He was a keyboard player and guitar player. So it
39:45
Speaker 3: was like in both houses there was loads of musical instruments.
39:48
Speaker 3: And I can still remember like Kippy's girlfriend at the time,
39:51
Speaker 3: she gave him a copy of the Stone Roses debut album.
39:54
Speaker 2: It was like an anniversary edition. It was like a
39:55
Speaker 2: double disc.
39:56
Speaker 3: And the it was quite nice at that, like a
39:58
Speaker 3: booklet as well with four hoes and stuff, and we
40:01
Speaker 3: like we essay about the album. So the album on
40:03
Speaker 3: one disc and then like what the world was waiting for?
40:05
Speaker 3: Fools gold and all that, and then the second disc
40:08
Speaker 3: and I can I can still remember clear as they
40:10
Speaker 3: hearing she bangs and drums, but it was like hearing
40:16
Speaker 3: she bangs drums and that was like, I mean bass guitar.
40:19
Speaker 3: So I had like a wee bit of savings at
40:20
Speaker 3: the time, went to a guy in Polment just outside Falk,
40:22
Speaker 3: but offender mustang bass like bright orange color which I
40:25
Speaker 3: still got and that was it like playing the bass.
40:28
Speaker 2: First song learned to play.
40:29
Speaker 3: Was the Chain by Fleetwood mac End of the Chain
40:32
Speaker 3: and then just like like got into it for their
40:35
Speaker 3: So Marlow was good fun. It was good for We
40:37
Speaker 3: were really into like really into you too. That's that's
40:40
Speaker 3: my favorite band to the point where I think we
40:43
Speaker 3: had a song called a Cross Winter and I think
40:45
Speaker 3: if Bono was to hear.
40:45
Speaker 2: It, he could could take us to court for copyright.
40:48
Speaker 3: And it was of about three different you two songs
40:51
Speaker 3: in especially five minutes. But it was it was good
40:53
Speaker 3: fun like it was good for there's nothing do you
40:55
Speaker 3: still see the guys? Still see the guys I like,
40:57
Speaker 3: like one of the guys in band was my step
40:58
Speaker 3: but the kipe he played like a guitar. Make Conny
41:02
Speaker 3: was the was a singer and it was there's there's
41:05
Speaker 3: moments I still think about some of the most like
41:08
Speaker 3: like genuinely like like some of the most life affirming moments.
41:11
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys have ever found this.
41:13
Speaker 3: If you like play music or you are you you
41:15
Speaker 3: write stuff and that, but see when you're you're you're
41:17
Speaker 3: writing a song, you're you're working at the cord sequences,
41:19
Speaker 3: not that you're working about how to take a song
41:21
Speaker 3: from like say the bridge into the chorus. I can
41:24
Speaker 3: still remember you're coming up with ideas and just a
41:26
Speaker 3: bit where somebody plays a certain chord into one and
41:29
Speaker 3: it's a bit where everyone's like, that's it, that's it, brilliant.
41:32
Speaker 3: I can remember as well. That is quite indulgent.
41:35
Speaker 2: Here's something you going down memory lane.
41:36
Speaker 3: But we had briefly played with synthesizer and to connected
41:40
Speaker 3: into in the practice room, it connected into the like
41:43
Speaker 3: the speakers where the simon come out and to get
41:45
Speaker 3: to the levels you put on our peggie and go
41:49
Speaker 3: and then they're just the levels. I remembered like mucking
41:51
Speaker 3: about the synthesizer and my stepbrother like Keepy playing the
41:53
Speaker 3: guitars guitar part over the top of it, and Mark
41:56
Speaker 3: the drummers playing this drum beat, and this song called
41:58
Speaker 3: who Do You Love came together. So it's fifteen minutes.
42:01
Speaker 3: It still stands up. I'll send it to you because
42:03
Speaker 3: it's like very good. But that's one of the moments
42:05
Speaker 3: where it's just like was like we're on something here
42:08
Speaker 3: and it's like those are some are some of my
42:10
Speaker 3: favorite memories. I want to kind of, you know something
42:15
Speaker 3: of the most difficult thing. I think it's see when
42:19
Speaker 3: you're see when you're younger, and seeing you've got that
42:21
Speaker 3: energy and enthusiasm, see like driving long distances, like say,
42:24
Speaker 3: if you've got like a remember playing gig like down
42:26
Speaker 3: at at berrick upon tweet like it didn't get paid
42:28
Speaker 3: for it, but it's just a gig. So you drive
42:30
Speaker 3: down like to like the two about hours from like
42:32
Speaker 3: saying Falkirk at the time to the gig, and you're
42:35
Speaker 3: getting back at.
42:36
Speaker 2: The house about like one in the morning.
42:37
Speaker 3: But you don't you mind, because it's just getting the
42:39
Speaker 3: chance to perform your music in front of people. Whereas
42:41
Speaker 3: now when you're older, you still have the fire in
42:44
Speaker 3: the belly to go and do it. And as part
42:47
Speaker 3: of it, thinks I just love to love to like
42:50
Speaker 3: just play songs and write songs, even if it's just
42:52
Speaker 3: for yourself.
42:53
Speaker 2: But it's just it's fine.
42:54
Speaker 3: Times difficult, you know, it is now where everyone's times
42:57
Speaker 3: at a premium.
42:58
Speaker 2: Folk have got waynes folk have got.
43:00
Speaker 3: The responsibilities like outside of it, and it's a shame.
43:03
Speaker 3: I've still got the guitars in the house and I
43:04
Speaker 3: still like just pick them up and play them from
43:06
Speaker 3: time things just when you're walking on your kind of
43:08
Speaker 3: work at your desk and you're you're taking away breaks,
43:10
Speaker 3: you just get the guitar around and you I just
43:12
Speaker 3: just have a wee shot and play the old songs.
43:14
Speaker 2: But it's great, man, it's great. It's it's a total gift.
43:17
Speaker 3: And I think that if if everyone like music, if
43:20
Speaker 3: you've got the opportunity to play an instiment flight from
43:22
Speaker 3: kids all outwards, it's it's a total gift.
43:25
Speaker 2: You do.
43:26
Speaker 1: No, no, I just I've been asked us before a
43:29
Speaker 1: couple of cards, but nothing of.
43:31
Speaker 3: How you're talking about, like like kicking on both for lessons.
43:34
Speaker 1: And I had lessons when I was Celtic, Big Big
43:37
Speaker 1: Brian and he will put me onto somebody. But I
43:39
Speaker 1: just get frustrated because I couldn't play instantly doing to
43:42
Speaker 1: stick at it. You know something, You're like, why can
43:44
Speaker 1: I not play this full song straight?
43:45
Speaker 2: Totally?
43:46
Speaker 3: I think it's when you first start playing the guitar,
43:48
Speaker 3: you're basically like training your fingers to go into weird
43:51
Speaker 3: like see the idea of like like there's me playing
43:54
Speaker 3: like a C major corda but it's the idea of
43:57
Speaker 3: like bending all these fingers into position is really difficult
43:59
Speaker 3: in that takes patience and that takes time.
44:01
Speaker 2: And if if you.
44:03
Speaker 4: Play Oasis straight away, although a three cords it might
44:07
Speaker 4: have been, you.
44:07
Speaker 3: Could have, you could have, but it's just it's that
44:09
Speaker 3: sort of stuff that you can you just need to
44:12
Speaker 3: push past that.
44:13
Speaker 2: That's probably I mean, I've played the trombone but for
44:15
Speaker 2: a week bit at school.
44:17
Speaker 3: No, if you try to think of like all the instruments,
44:20
Speaker 3: you could have had the opportunity to play the trumpet
44:22
Speaker 3: or the trompblone, but I thought that's going to look cool,
44:25
Speaker 3: whereas the big promadenny joint because of a pain in
44:28
Speaker 3: the arse, Like walking to school with this big thing
44:30
Speaker 3: slapping around, where's a trumpet would have been quite like
44:32
Speaker 3: Miles Davis and stuff like that, that would have been
44:33
Speaker 3: quite cool. Trombone saxophone being quite cool.
44:37
Speaker 2: You know.
44:37
Speaker 3: See when you're in the house and you're trying to
44:39
Speaker 3: practice your scales and the trombone, it's just just annoying
44:43
Speaker 3: for everyone, absolutely, even more so than like the bass guitar,
44:46
Speaker 3: and like like a trombone would have I really know everyone,
44:49
Speaker 3: but that's the kind of regret I didn't stick in it.
44:51
Speaker 2: That it's one of those things that when you're younger,
44:53
Speaker 2: you don't.
44:53
Speaker 3: Think it's particularly cool, like playing the trroumbone, whereas now
44:56
Speaker 3: you get older you think you could be.
44:58
Speaker 1: Those bands that have brought the likes of the trumpet
45:01
Speaker 1: and stuff as well.
45:01
Speaker 3: Like I like to see Olivia Dean actually the Hydrolancy
45:06
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, and just like looking at her band of
45:08
Speaker 3: guys or saxophone player, trumpet, a trombone playing, they look
45:11
Speaker 3: really cool. Those guys are a really good show. But
45:14
Speaker 3: it's one of those things.
45:17
Speaker 4: Well, on that note, then musical. We'll finish with what
45:21
Speaker 4: we do.
45:21
Speaker 1: We get our guests to recommend to the next guest
45:24
Speaker 1: a film, a band, and a song.
45:27
Speaker 2: Oh okay, when we caught you on the.
45:29
Speaker 1: Hot So we had Shabana hern on last and her
45:33
Speaker 1: film was quite a recent one, one battle after another.
45:36
Speaker 4: Oh right, DiCaprio, we've seen it. It's really good.
45:39
Speaker 2: Looks.
45:39
Speaker 3: I love Paul Thomas Anderson stuff, like I think I've
45:41
Speaker 3: watched all his other movies and that's the one.
45:42
Speaker 5: That's what.
45:44
Speaker 2: I'll definitely get that go.
45:45
Speaker 4: She went for West Life. World of her Own is
45:49
Speaker 4: the song.
45:49
Speaker 2: Okay, already heard that one, that one, and she never.
45:52
Speaker 4: Picked an album.
45:53
Speaker 1: We had Adam Scott brown on and both haven't picked
45:55
Speaker 1: an album. They're too young to pick albums. There was
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Speaker 1: no such thing, which is older UBI.
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Speaker 4: Would just be a scooter. So he was, so, we
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Speaker 4: want a film off you.
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Speaker 2: We want an.
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Speaker 3: Album okay, okay, and a song okay, okay, Right, I'll
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Speaker 3: give you.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a film first, Paul Thomas Hans Move
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Speaker 2: One Battle.
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Speaker 3: After that, I'll give you the most recent movie that
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Speaker 3: I watched watching it's excellent.
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Speaker 2: The band she's been a shearing.
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Speaker 4: I've seen it.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 4: Yes, with the.
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Speaker 2: Colin Farrell and Brendan.
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Speaker 4: Was my wife though she did a like a bathroom.
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Speaker 4: It was really good on the island.
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Speaker 3: It's like it's like two guys might have been they've
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Speaker 3: been friends for years and all of a sudden, one
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Speaker 3: term or something just says, listen, I don't want to
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Speaker 3: be friends with you anymore.
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Speaker 2: I find you really dull.
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Speaker 3: I want to credit and then I just just escalates.
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Speaker 2: No, it's it's excellent. Have you seen him Brucees, because
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Speaker 2: it's the same.
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Speaker 3: Guy that road director of Bruis's Colin Farrell and Brendan
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Speaker 3: Gleish and so if you like that really it's really.
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Speaker 2: Funny actually as well, so good choice. I highly recommend
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Speaker 2: that album and a song I'll Get You My, I'll.
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Speaker 3: Get My Favorite album of all time. Favorite album of
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Speaker 3: all time is Hats by the Blue Nile. So we
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Speaker 3: were just talking for we bought it of record. But
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Speaker 3: the Blue and Isle were a band from Glasgow. I'm
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Speaker 3: not sure the opposite of prolific is, but this is
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Speaker 3: what the blueele They released four albums across twenty years,
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Speaker 3: and their first tw albums, I Walk Across the Rooftops
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Speaker 3: and Hats are like genuine ten out of ten albums,
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Speaker 3: and Hats the second album came out in nineteen eighty nine.
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Speaker 3: It's it's extraordinary, really good. They've got a it's quite cold,
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Speaker 3: like sort of like synthesizer music, but they've got a
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Speaker 3: really good sing I Paul By Cannon's got a really rich,
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Speaker 3: warm voice. You can imagine him like singing like like
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Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra songs. And they're all songs about like love
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Speaker 3: and loss and fall in love and falling out of
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Speaker 3: love and if you imagine sort of like walking down
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Speaker 3: Buyers road at like three in the morning. That's what
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Speaker 3: The Blue and Isle sound like. So it is really
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Speaker 3: really good stuff, really good stuff. They're a song pencil
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Speaker 3: Town in the Rain, which is their big single, but
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Speaker 3: hats is just hats is just amazing.
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Speaker 2: It's really really good album.
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Speaker 3: I remember going to a period of them, like you know,
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Speaker 3: when you're younger, I just want to listen to want
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Speaker 3: to listen to music, and you're you're basically going, yeah,
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Speaker 3: borrowing your parents series and just littime.
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Speaker 2: Remember, get a loan of hats off.
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Speaker 3: My uncle he gave me a pilot series and something's
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Speaker 3: like Paul pin Oasis, which I've heard of, but this band,
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Speaker 3: The Blue and Isle, never heard them and stick it
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Speaker 3: all and just been like this is this is absolutely uncle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's it, The Hatski Blue and I.
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Speaker 4: You give a listen and a song, Okay, right, I'll
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Speaker 4: give you a song.
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Speaker 3: Right, I'll give you a song. Probably the best song
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Speaker 3: from twenty to twenty five. A band nourish by time.
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Speaker 3: This is this guy Marcus brownce of an R and
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Speaker 3: B singer from Baltimore. His album The Passionate Ones was
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Speaker 3: brilliant as that was my album of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: I will give his song Max Potential a go. It's
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Speaker 3: quite if you quite like Luther Van Ross and you
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Speaker 3: quite imagine that it's said very similar to that, but
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Speaker 3: sort of like a kind of DIY indie twist on
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Speaker 3: t it. So he's very he's brilliant, amazing singer, and
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Speaker 3: that's how I thought it was the best song off
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Speaker 3: of his albums there, Max Potential buying I was by time.
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Speaker 4: You listen to that as well. Excellent recommendations, Absolute pleasure
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Speaker 4: to have you, brilliant, joy and enjoy.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Hopefully we can see the second roun