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Templates To Fulfill Ministry · Apostle Lazarus Femi

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Speaker 1: Apostle Femi Lazarus is a man raised by God to
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Speaker 1: demonstrate his wisdom and authority to the last day church.
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Speaker 1: He is the lead pastor of Sphere of Light Church
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Speaker 1: and God told him years ago that a time will
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Speaker 1: come where my wisdom will be needed to navigate tough
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Speaker 1: times in the body of Christ.
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Speaker 2: Then I will.
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Speaker 1: Cause your voice to be heard and all who pay
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Speaker 1: attention to my word on your lips will not lack
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Speaker 1: light and direction. He is a man sent from God,
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Speaker 1: sent to raise God's end time armies. With Apostle Fermi Lazarus,
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Speaker 1: every minute counts as you listen attentively.
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Speaker 2: Father, we bless you for every calling represented here and
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Speaker 2: for your mighty hand. This morning, let it be the
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Speaker 2: needed breakthrough That we so desire. No one will leave
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Speaker 2: here confused. And we bless you Father. In Jesus mighty name.
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Speaker 2: Now let's give the Lord a big shout of praise.
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Speaker 2: And that big hand. Come on. Is that the best
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Speaker 2: you can do? Is that the best you can do?
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Speaker 2: Bless the one who separated you from your mother's womb.
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Speaker 2: And give him praise. Hallelujah. God bless you. Please be seated.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Good morning everybody. Good to see you. You
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Speaker 2: are looking radiant and amazing. Amen. Amen. Alright. Let's start
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Speaker 2: from 2 Timothy chapter number 4. 2 Timothy chapter number 4. Amen.
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Speaker 2: 2 Timothy 4. For the sake of contextual understanding, I
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Speaker 2: may have us read from verse 1. Where we are
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Speaker 2: really going to is verse 5. Verse 5. 2 Timothy 4.
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Speaker 2: From verse 1 please. Verse 1. Alright. Can you give us?
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Speaker 2: 2 Timothy 4. Alright. In the presence of God. And
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Speaker 2: of Christ Jesus. We will judge the living and the dead.
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Speaker 2: And in view of his appearing. And his kingdom. I
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Speaker 2: give you this charge. Preach the word. Be prepared in
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Speaker 2: season and out of season. So when you do this,
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Speaker 2: these are the ingredients of what you should do as
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Speaker 2: a minister. Correct, rebuke, encourage with great patience and careful instruction. Okay?
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Speaker 2: Now look at verse 3. For the time will come
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Speaker 2: when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead,
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Speaker 2: to suit their own desires, they will gather around them
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Speaker 2: a great number of teachers to say what their itching
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Speaker 2: ear wants to hear. Now, before I continue reading, one
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Speaker 2: of the most dangerous ways to raise men is to
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Speaker 2: raise men with itching ears. One of the signs that
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Speaker 2: you are really raising men and you are doing your
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Speaker 2: work correctly, is that they are selective listeners. Nothing has
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Speaker 2: bastardized the imagines of believers like that quality defined there.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what happens when people have itching ears?
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Speaker 2: They want to use anything to check it. Have you
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Speaker 2: seen people that remove cover of viral too? Some of
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Speaker 2: you are guilty of that. Village people enterprise. Some even
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Speaker 2: step the Babalawism to another level of using feathers. Have
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Speaker 2: you seen that before? They will always see them with feathers.
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Speaker 2: They are not that bad. Once the thing is doing
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Speaker 2: them in church. What's the worst one again? Some is
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Speaker 2: paper the world. Matches. My God. Alright. No. It's bad.
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Speaker 2: When people are not trained to know difference, it's bad. Alright.
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Speaker 2: This morning I came trusting God. Where I get to
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Speaker 2: depends on your hunger. But I have my own outline.
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Speaker 2: Is that okay? I know there are mixtures of different
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Speaker 2: kind of ministers and ministry seated. So, how to get
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Speaker 2: that balance depends on who is hungry. Alright.
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Speaker 1: Alright.
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Speaker 2: So say what their itching hair wants to hear. Verse 4.
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Speaker 2: They will turn their hairs away from the truth and
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Speaker 2: turn aside to meat. But you, keep your head in
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Speaker 2: all situations. Are you following what I'm saying? Dear ministers,
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Speaker 2: keep your head in all situations. Keep your head in
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Speaker 2: all situations. Because it is very possible to lose it.
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Speaker 2: End your hardship. Do the work of an evangelist. That
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Speaker 2: is win souls. Discharge all the duties of your ministry.
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Speaker 2: Discharge all the duties of your ministry. I don't know
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Speaker 2: who asked them to give me this in NIV. Can
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Speaker 2: I have it in King James? Let me have verse
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Speaker 2: 5 in King James. Verse 5 now. He said, watch
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Speaker 2: thou in all things and do afflictions. Do the work
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Speaker 2: of an evangelist. Make foolproof. Make foolproof. Tell your neighbor,
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Speaker 2: make foolproof of your ministry. Tell your neighbor again, make
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Speaker 2: foolproof of your ministry. Say it in case the fellow
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Speaker 2: didn't hear it. Tell your neighbor, make foolproof of your ministry.
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Speaker 2: Now let's look at this scripture. Colossians chapter number 4
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Speaker 2: verse 17. Colossians chapter number 4 verse 17. Oh thank
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Speaker 2: you Jesus. 17 please. And say to Archippus, take heed
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Speaker 2: to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord,
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Speaker 2: that thou fulfill it. So let me start from the basic,
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Speaker 2: most basic part. I've been taking a series, and if
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Speaker 2: you're a minister, you've got to listen to that series.
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Speaker 2: And you want to get your people to. And let
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Speaker 2: me advise, okay? I want to be very practical. It
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Speaker 2: is not in every situation that you listen to a
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Speaker 2: message and give it to your people to listen to.
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Speaker 2: The minister may be accurate in that message, but not
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Speaker 2: accurate in others. You have joined them with his lack
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Speaker 2: of accuracy. So what you do is that you feed
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Speaker 2: their interpretation. It's okay to interpret. Recently, we had to
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Speaker 2: delete a minister from the League of Ministers we can
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Speaker 2: never invite. Why? Once you are a minister who goes
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Speaker 2: online to insult ministers or speak angrily to the body
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Speaker 2: of Christ, we will never bring you. And I just
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Speaker 2: called the faculty. I said, pull this person down from
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Speaker 2: my ministry. That's it. I went to check the list
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Speaker 2: of the ministry platform where it said they are mentoring people.
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Speaker 2: I saw some of my people there. I kept quiet. Alright?
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Speaker 2: Anytime you invite people to your platform, you are endorsing
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Speaker 2: their life. Hence, you want to be careful of who
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Speaker 2: you bring. Once I see a minister of God, who
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Speaker 2: has the guts to talk down on other ministers and ministries? Finally,
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Speaker 2: we will never step out of our platform. This platform
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Speaker 2: is for building the body of Christ, not for destroying it. Alright?
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Speaker 2: And you will never see me go online and talk
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Speaker 2: down on ministers. I won't try it. Privately, I won't
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Speaker 2: do it. Ask people, this man of God, no comment.
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Speaker 2: No comment. To his master, he stands. To his master,
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Speaker 2: he falls. The master is able to keep you from falling.
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Speaker 2: And let me say this to you. One of the
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Speaker 2: things that make people lose relevance, you need to understand this.
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Speaker 2: As you grow in ministry, the generation that will give
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Speaker 2: you relevance are those behind it. That's the truth. That's
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Speaker 2: the truth. As you grow. Because they are the next
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Speaker 2: new thing. The moment you begin to talk down younger generations,
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Speaker 2: talk down. Be careful of ministers who always see issues
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Speaker 2: with younger generations. Ah! Young ministers this, young ministers that.
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Speaker 2: Most of them want to get you to a point
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Speaker 2: where they can control you. Are you following what I'm
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Speaker 2: saying here? As a minister, you are a servant of God.
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Speaker 2: You are not controlled by anyone. Are you accountable? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Not control. Not through the tool of fear and manipulation.
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Speaker 2: Are you following what I'm saying here? Very important. Very important.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes I take years to study a person. We want
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Speaker 2: to bring this person to our platform, but I'm studying
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Speaker 2: so that it will not be that what I heard
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Speaker 2: was the day you were fine. Alright? If it blessed me,
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Speaker 2: except for people I can vouch for, That they've been
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Speaker 2: consistent over the years. I can say, okay, you guys
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Speaker 2: hear this. I just hear something random. It blessed me.
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Speaker 2: I will interpret it and then tell my people. Because
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Speaker 2: sometimes your people start going into error because of someone
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Speaker 2: you endorsed. There was a minister that was invited. You
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Speaker 2: were there at that meeting at Ife. The man of
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Speaker 2: God talked down everything that church was standing on. You
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Speaker 2: know that meeting. Okay. He destroyed that church that brought him.
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Speaker 2: He said there's nothing like Garden of Eden. God is
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Speaker 2: not in heaven. He said many things. Once a minister
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Speaker 2: of God comes to preach something different from the ordinance
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Speaker 2: of the house, watch out for those sons and daughters
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Speaker 2: who are jumping. They are gone already. They've never been around.
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Speaker 2: They should be able to discern. This is not the meal.
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Speaker 2: All the pastors that were jumping, yes! They left that
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Speaker 2: ministry after two weeks. The girls are saying God has
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Speaker 2: asked them to leave. Are you following what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: You know why you're here? This is why it's not revelation.
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Speaker 2: This is revelation. It's not going anywhere. Once you fall
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Speaker 2: into the trap of trying to say new things always,
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Speaker 2: you become a false teacher. What the word must be
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Speaker 2: is to be fresh, not new. It is his word
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Speaker 2: that is new every morning, not yours. He said, it
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Speaker 2: made me lay down. It fed me with green pastures. Green.
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Speaker 2: That's freshness. Not new pastures. Green. And the idea of
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Speaker 2: freshness is the source. Where it's coming from. That's why
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Speaker 2: you pray. See, once you stop praying as a minister,
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Speaker 2: you'll be under pressure. So you hear that there's something raining.
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Speaker 2: This is one new thing people are saying now. So
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Speaker 2: what are my people hearing? So let me to gather
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Speaker 2: them and begin to say some deep, deep stuff. You
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Speaker 2: confuse them. I'm going to be very practical with you
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Speaker 2: this morning. So I'm going to start from the basics.
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Speaker 2: Now I've been taking a series on the Great Commission.
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Speaker 2: And I said the church, alright, get that series as
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Speaker 2: three-fold of assignment. Three-fold of assignment. Number one, alright, is
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Speaker 2: to gather the harvest. Alright, number two is to process
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Speaker 2: the harvest. Number three is to deploy. Now you must
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Speaker 2: understand that any ministry you claim to have that has
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Speaker 2: no foundation from a local church is not endorsed by God.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to show you from scriptures. There must be
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Speaker 2: a base of a local assembly. That's where your track
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Speaker 2: record is coming from. Whatsoever everyone has ordained, the earth
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Speaker 2: must confirm. You see, one of the problems we have
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Speaker 2: is that we have people who wake up out of
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Speaker 2: the blues. I just said they have a calling. Never
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Speaker 2: served anywhere else. never been trained anywhere, no track record
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Speaker 2: of anything, and suddenly they are taking care of people's lives.
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Speaker 2: And that local assembly also includes campus fellowship. It's a
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Speaker 2: local assembly. So if you started from your campus fellowship,
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Speaker 2: you served in any capacity, either as a steward, or
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Speaker 2: you were privileged to be a leader, then God called
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Speaker 2: you out of there. That's fantastic. Are you following what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying here? Because ministry requires a lot. a lot
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Speaker 2: of accountability and structures of it. And one of the
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Speaker 2: reasons why I practically don't argue with people, ministers, say
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Speaker 2: be accountable, say I won't, the people you are raising
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Speaker 2: will learn your lifestyle, not your message. See, 2017 or thereabouts,
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Speaker 2: in the heat of, there was a doctrinal siege in
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Speaker 2: In the body of Christ. Oh. If you don't know this.
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Speaker 2: We are insulting. Saying all those things. There was one guy.
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Speaker 2: That was the leader of those. They would lead mob attack.
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Speaker 2: And attack ministers. Attack many pastors. You see. I told
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Speaker 2: you then. I said the message. Is using to attack
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Speaker 2: the fathers. Is raising those that will rebel against him.
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Speaker 2: It's the same message. It's not true. The message you
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Speaker 2: are preaching to justify your weakness is also raising those
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Speaker 2: that will use it against you. That's the same message. Alright?
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Speaker 2: The church folded up. The church folded up. It's not
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Speaker 2: my joy, but I saw it coming. There are certain
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Speaker 2: things you don't do. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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Speaker 2: There are things that we have seen as casualties in
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Speaker 2: many ministries that it's difficult here because you can't trace
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Speaker 2: it to my life. Please be seated. You can't trace
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Speaker 2: it to my life. So the church is the grooming
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Speaker 2: ground for ministry gifts. The church is the grooming ground
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Speaker 2: for For ministry gift. Having been saved. Washed with the blood.
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Speaker 2: Bought with the price. Justified. Seated with Christ in heavenly places.
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Speaker 2: You are placed in a local assembly. The message. The teaching.
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Speaker 2: The practice. The culture. The trainings in that house. Are
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Speaker 2: to build you specifically. Into what God wants to do
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Speaker 2: with your life. You must understand that. And everything is
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Speaker 2: a part of the deal. You can't love the message
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Speaker 2: and hate the method. You must love the both. Every
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Speaker 2: package in your local assembly is designed, orchestrated by God
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Speaker 2: to raise you into the kind of person you should become.
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Speaker 2: So what makes a minister is not just a message.
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Speaker 2: It's a body of training. Like we said yesterday, curriculum
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Speaker 2: is both theoretical and practical. All these things are needed
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Speaker 2: to raise a man of God that is thoroughly furnished
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Speaker 2: unto every good works. In ministry, character goes a long way.
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Speaker 2: And character is developed through stringent situations. The quality of
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Speaker 2: being faithful. You'll be faithful over much when you are
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Speaker 2: faithful over little. The fact that you have been trusted
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Speaker 2: with certain things and you saw to it that you
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Speaker 2: did everything you should do. Ministry doesn't start when you
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Speaker 2: have a name to something you are doing. Ministry starts
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Speaker 2: when the opportunity to serve is given. From the day
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Speaker 2: you started serving in your local assembly, you have started
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Speaker 2: your ministry as far as everyone is concerned. Whether you
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Speaker 2: are serving in the toilet or using the microphone, you
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Speaker 2: are in ministry. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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Speaker 2: So the word ministry used in both that's Colossians 4.
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Speaker 2: Is it Colossians 4 we just read now? 2 Timothy
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Speaker 2: 4 also is the word diakonia which means service. A
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Speaker 2: minister is a trained servant. Let's look at what Paul
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Speaker 2: said in Ephesians chapter number 4. Let's start reading from
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Speaker 2: verse 1. Ephesians 4 let's start from verse 1. I've
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Speaker 2: not started off. I'm laying foundation for you. When I start,
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Speaker 2: you know. Ephesians 4. I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord,
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Speaker 2: beseech you that you walk worthy of the vocation. The
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Speaker 2: Bible uses the word vocation. Wherewith you are called. I, therefore,
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Speaker 2: the prisoner. You know, I love the way you use
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Speaker 2: the word the prisoner out there. Because your calling must
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Speaker 2: be able to place certain restrictions on your life. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
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Speaker 2: Before you write, let me tell you this. Anytime I
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Speaker 2: see ministers who are called, except for people who are
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Speaker 2: associate ministers and they are in a house where there
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Speaker 2: is liberty of the spirit and particularly given liberty because
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Speaker 2: there is a need to spread. You know what I'm saying? Alright?
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Speaker 2: Anywhere you see a minister Who will consider greater opportunities
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Speaker 2: and greener pastures than the calling? They don't do well.
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Speaker 2: If you ever have a greener pasture than your calling,
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Speaker 2: something happened, I can't remember what country. A man of
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Speaker 2: God won a lotto, a lottery bet. The moment he
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Speaker 2: won the lottery bet, he closed down the church and
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Speaker 2: said to them, sorry, he's been pastoring them because he
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Speaker 2: wants money. My wife sent me another notification yesterday night
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Speaker 2: of a man of God that came all the way
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Speaker 2: from Gambia to have crusade in Nigeria. Three days crusade.
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Speaker 2: Made the people fast. He wasn't fasting. And how did
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Speaker 2: I know? He told them on the final day to
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Speaker 2: gather their phones. That God led them to gather their
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Speaker 2: phones so they could pray without distraction. They were expecting
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Speaker 2: the pastor at the crusade ground. He had taken 52
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Speaker 2: phones and escaped. Listen to what I'm saying. There are
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Speaker 2: people in ministry that have no business around ministry. They're
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Speaker 2: only in there to feed their bellies. Once you start,
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Speaker 2: that's why I love that word, I the prisoner. The
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Speaker 2: work of ministry puts certain restrictions. I have what it
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Speaker 2: takes to relocate outside the country with my family but
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Speaker 2: I will not because there's an assignment for me. If
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Speaker 2: ministry is not putting restrictions on your mobility, you are
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Speaker 2: not in ministry. It restricts everything. You can no longer
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Speaker 2: do everything like others. If you are a man who
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Speaker 2: have the tendency of seeing greener pastures than ministry, that
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Speaker 2: if something else shows up, you will move on and japa.
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Speaker 2: Then you probably have to investigate again if there is
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Speaker 2: a calling in the first place. Every ministry begins with
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Speaker 2: a calling that is not to be assumed, definitely received,
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Speaker 2: and well interpreted. It is possible to receive the calling,
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Speaker 2: you know you received something, but you missed the interpretation.
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Speaker 2: And that's where many ministers fail, and many ministers die
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Speaker 2: on arrival. People are saying God said they should go
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Speaker 2: and do with their life what they have not understood.
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Speaker 2: Because they fail to, and when this happens, this is
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Speaker 2: what the mistake they make, they fail to realize there
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Speaker 2: is a time to be called and there is a
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Speaker 2: time to be sent. In between those times, God birthed
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Speaker 2: clarity through process. Do you know you can be called
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Speaker 2: and still serving faithfully for years? Because it's not yet time.
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Speaker 2: There is a time for it. There is a time
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Speaker 2: to launch out. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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Speaker 2: How do you say you are devoting your entire life
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Speaker 2: to do something you have not interpreted well? I share
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Speaker 2: the story of a man that was met at Elisha.
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Speaker 2: And what happened to him? The man said, God told him,
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Speaker 2: I think in the 90s, era 94, 96, that his
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Speaker 2: ministry is to go about from state to state, praying
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Speaker 2: for nations. And the man has been doing that. And
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Speaker 2: as the time he was met, he was in rags.
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Speaker 2: Listen to what I'm saying here. People have tried to
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Speaker 2: say this in many ways. I'm going to tell you
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Speaker 2: in simple terms. The end of every calling is glory.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't call people onto shame, but onto glorification. The
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Speaker 2: problem is that we have found a way to justify
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Speaker 2: what is not in place for lack of wisdom. And
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Speaker 2: we use scriptures to endorse them. And anytime you are
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Speaker 2: out of pride and endorse something that you should rebuke,
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Speaker 2: it will continue. It will continue for such a very
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Speaker 2: long time. If things are not fine, it's fine somewhere else.
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Speaker 2: Never take smallness of the ministry as a proof you
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Speaker 2: are speaking the truth. And many of you grew up
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Speaker 2: from local churches where your minds were bastardized. You need
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Speaker 2: to be re-ironed, washed thoroughly before you are sent back.
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Speaker 2: Somebody told you at a certain point and gave you
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Speaker 2: the impression that once you are doing it right and
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Speaker 2: speaking the truth, the crowd won't come. Was Jesus now
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Speaker 2: telling a lie? When a whole city will gather to him?
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Speaker 2: What kind of meeting was you operating without microphone? 5,000
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Speaker 2: were seated. But you have a truth that is greater
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Speaker 2: than Jesus. What you have is anger issues. And a
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Speaker 2: man with that can't gather people. That's why they are
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Speaker 2: not gathered. But you have not believed that it's because
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Speaker 2: you are speaking the truth. You are not telling it
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Speaker 2: in love. Hence the reason why you build and destroy.
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Speaker 2: And no gift of the spirit, no office of byproduct
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Speaker 2: or side effect. It is not as you say with
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Speaker 2: the prophetic that once you are a prophet, you are
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Speaker 2: an angry person. It's a lie. It is not true
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Speaker 2: that once you are an evangelist, you are a truth person.
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Speaker 2: It's a lie. Everybody can learn the basics of excellence
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Speaker 2: and quality of seasoned speech. You have come wrong. Don't
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Speaker 2: remain wrong. Are you following what I'm saying here? Very,
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Speaker 2: very important. Sometimes when I see... Can I be very
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Speaker 2: blunt with you? I feel like telling them to off
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Speaker 2: the online stuff. I know people there will say, eh?
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Speaker 2: But let me say this to you. There is a
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Speaker 2: place people can learn ministry, right? Because they have learned
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Speaker 2: there and failed to learn elsewhere. You know that they
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Speaker 2: can't grow. Apologies. Apologies. I was invited to come and preach.
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Speaker 2: One of the things God does in my life is
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Speaker 2: to help ministries that are old and then somehow they
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Speaker 2: are going down. There is a need to revamp the system.
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Speaker 2: So I do that with many ministries. And 90% of
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Speaker 2: the times I stand there to minister and I look
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Speaker 2: at the people. And I always tell myself, if this
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Speaker 2: ministry will ever survive, it will be for the sake
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Speaker 2: of these three people they are ignoring in front. Who
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Speaker 2: are they? Young people. You have somebody who has been
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Speaker 2: the head of ushering department since 1995. The fellow ushered
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Speaker 2: you in, ushered your mom in on the day of
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Speaker 2: your dedication. You now say that this fellow will master
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Speaker 2: the quality of excellence and how to receive people. No.
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Speaker 2: They will tell you, go and sit down there. Ministry
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Speaker 2: must know how to either recycle or shift men. Recycle
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Speaker 2: means that you can only remain here if you are
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Speaker 2: green in orientation. Many ministries have kept some people in
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Speaker 2: a place for so long for the sake of political correctness.
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Speaker 2: Those people have become the molds killing those ministries. Most
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Speaker 2: of the vibrant churches with vibrant choirs you see all
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Speaker 2: over the world, including from Koza to Dista, none of
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Speaker 2: them have choirs that stay for a year, two years,
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Speaker 2: without changing. They do auditions every year. Because there's something
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Speaker 2: called mamasale. Once you are there for a while, you
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Speaker 2: see those who have formed, they say you have to
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Speaker 2: build bridge. Before you can hold the mic, you have
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Speaker 2: to go and talk to this person. So nobody has
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Speaker 2: anything to say we have been here for 20 years.
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Speaker 2: They re-audition you again. That you are good last year
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you are still good now. I think I'm
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Speaker 2: getting ahead of myself. Because at a certain point, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to be emotional with you. I'm just going
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Speaker 2: to give you to you as it is. Are you
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Speaker 2: following what I'm saying here? What is the mandate of
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Speaker 2: the ministry you say you are running? What is the mandate?
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Speaker 2: Write it down. Now, we are going to find out
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Speaker 2: in a minute if you are right or wrong. And
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Speaker 2: I'm going to show you quality of mandates that shows
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Speaker 2: you are correct. What is the mandate of your ministry?
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Speaker 2: Write it down. I'm not going to read anyone. I'm
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Speaker 2: just going to give you the indiscretion from your neighbor
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Speaker 2: because they may know when I talk. Write down the
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Speaker 2: mandate of your ministry. Is it possible to hear a
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Speaker 2: wrong mandate? If at certain point you heard wrongly about marriage,
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Speaker 2: you can also hear wrongly about mandate. Can I come again?
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Speaker 2: If at a certain point you heard and thought somebody
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Speaker 2: was your wife or your husband, or you found out
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Speaker 2: you were wrong, you can also discover that the mandate
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Speaker 2: you have received is wrong. You will never find out
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Speaker 2: if you were wrong immediately. So write down your mandate.
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Speaker 2: First things first. Every mandate that is not specific in
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Speaker 2: nature is not correct. Listen. So let me show you
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Speaker 2: the ones that are not specific. God has said we
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Speaker 2: should go and raise believers as a wrong mandate. Now
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Speaker 2: talk to me. You are quiet. God has said I
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Speaker 2: should go and raise believers with the word. You want
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Speaker 2: to hear the word. It's still wrong. God has said
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Speaker 2: I should go and preach the gospel to the nations.
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Speaker 2: That's a general assignment. You are still wrong. Mandate has
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Speaker 2: to be clear. You have not been sent to everyone.
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Speaker 2: Those you have been sent to will be highlighted in
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Speaker 2: the instructions of the mandate. It will be clear, specific,
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Speaker 2: narrowed down. Don't adjust it. Don't patch it. If you
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Speaker 2: discover now that what you have written doesn't meet this criteria,
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Speaker 2: go and ask God if you actually heard him at all. Say,
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Speaker 2: what do I do if I'm in ministry? Stop the
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Speaker 2: ministry now. I said, it has ash. Yes, it is.
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Speaker 2: There's no reward for a wrong job. If you have
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Speaker 2: a garage that can only take a car, how do
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Speaker 2: you keep it there and trust him for a better one?
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Speaker 2: You empty it. And it is not every calling that
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Speaker 2: they tap full time. Like that man that said that
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Speaker 2: God says, go and pray for nations. His children will
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Speaker 2: grow with 18 God and 18 ministries. Now, let's think
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Speaker 2: about it. Somebody just come here and they say, ah, pastor,
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Speaker 2: so good to see you, sir. I'm a missionary. God
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Speaker 2: has sent me to come and pray in the battle.
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Speaker 2: So we are going to raise an altar for Somalia.
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Speaker 2: I look at Somalia in the context of where I
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Speaker 2: am in the calling of God now. I say, Somalia
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Speaker 2: is not an instruction that has popped up in my radar.
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Speaker 2: Before you know it, you go to different churches and
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Speaker 2: all that. They have their specific assignment, get offended, and
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Speaker 2: say the body of Christ don't like missionaries. Why? You
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Speaker 2: did not interpret and understand in context. There is a
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Speaker 2: body of wisdom needed to carry it out. You failed
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Speaker 2: at it if you don't interpret it well. So many
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Speaker 2: people are running with visions, mandates that they cannot interpret.
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Speaker 2: They heard something. And that's why you must understand the
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Speaker 2: place of help and accountability. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: I thought I heard something Let me say this to
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Speaker 2: you and I need to, let me break a table.
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Speaker 2: It is not true that your calling will be obvious.
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Speaker 2: That is, we look at the way you are made
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Speaker 2: up and we can also deduce your calling. It's not true.
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Speaker 2: It is not going to always be obvious. And sometimes
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Speaker 2: your area of calling might be the area you give
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Speaker 2: least emphasis to. You must understand. You must understand that.
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Speaker 2: You must understand that. Because once you understand the instructions
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Speaker 2: of the assignment, you can function in the anointing for it.
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Speaker 2: There is a toolkit given to every minister with which
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Speaker 2: they can actualize their calling. There are things I do effortlessly.
30:05
Speaker 2: Are you following what I'm saying? Not because I am special,
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Speaker 2: but because I have been graced in this area. One
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Speaker 2: of the ways you know you've got the mandate wrong
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Speaker 2: is that you are doing it with the energy of
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Speaker 2: the flesh. You'll notice it looks like there's no supply
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Speaker 2: from heaven to back it up. Every time you fulfill
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Speaker 2: your mandate, there should be a joy nobody can pay for.
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Speaker 2: Every time you fulfill it. And that's why I'm very
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Speaker 2: skeptical about the ministries and programs I honor. Sometimes people
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Speaker 2: are gathered and all that. And they say, we want
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Speaker 2: to bring for a program. I ask, what is this
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Speaker 2: program about? Is it something that gives me the avenue
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Speaker 2: to fulfill part of the reason why God has called me?
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Speaker 2: If it doesn't call another minister, who is graced for that?
30:53
Speaker 2: And let me say this particularly to those of you
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Speaker 2: who are in itinerant ministry. You have to deal with
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Speaker 2: this fact. The body of Christ does not invite you
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Speaker 2: because you are sound. They call you because you are trending.
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Speaker 2: There is still a level of worldliness that is in
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Speaker 2: those who invite people. That they check for ministers who
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Speaker 2: can help them gather crowd. And they will come to
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Speaker 2: you and say, God said. If you don't spend your
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Speaker 2: time building the work he has given you, you will
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Speaker 2: spend your time servicing the pride and lies in people's hearts.
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Speaker 2: You would have done ministry for years on different flyers
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Speaker 2: only to discover you have built nothing. The future of
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Speaker 2: ministry is not for those who are preaching about. It's
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Speaker 2: for builders. The future of ministry is for builders. I
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Speaker 2: can take you through church history in Nigeria that will
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Speaker 2: humble you. Years back, many ministers who have taught this
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Speaker 2: country and shake everywhere upside down. But at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, the ministries that will stand out are
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Speaker 2: those who patiently waited to build. So never rate your
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Speaker 2: importance by the number of invitations you receive. Never rate
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Speaker 2: your importance by the number of invitations you receive. Never
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Speaker 2: rate your importance by the quality of invitations. Oh, I
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Speaker 2: wish I can start having these platforms too. No. If
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Speaker 2: you sit down with what God has given to you
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Speaker 2: and you build it well, there is no platform that
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Speaker 2: will not desire to bring you. Do you understand what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying? Sit down with your work. Sit down. Sit down.
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Speaker 2: If what God has given you are ten people, sit
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Speaker 2: on them. Sit with them. Teach them the word. Help
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Speaker 2: them to pray. Build. You can't build by proxy. You
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Speaker 2: have to sit down and build. See to it that
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Speaker 2: you fulfill your ministry. The responsibility to fulfill your ministry
32:51
Speaker 2: is not on God. It's on you. Meaning that, let
32:55
Speaker 2: me take it a step further. It means, what we
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Speaker 2: see in your ministry now is not God's doing alone.
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Speaker 2: It's your doing also. The level that your ministry is,
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Speaker 2: don't put it on God. You know what Anna said?
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Speaker 2: She said, God has restrained me from having a child.
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Speaker 2: That was the mistakes of the Old Testament. Whenever something happened,
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Speaker 2: they would say, God has brought this. You'll say God
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Speaker 2: has brought that. And as long as you are thinking
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Speaker 2: like that, you have gotten the theology of divinity wrong.
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Speaker 2: You've gotten that theology and you're going to make several...
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Speaker 2: So the devil will now have a free ground to operate,
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Speaker 2: to destroy, to reduce, to cut down. Because he knows
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Speaker 2: that your conclusion is God is doing this. Are you
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Speaker 2: following what I'm saying? Every ministry begins with a mandate
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Speaker 2: and ends up looking like your mindset. It looks like
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Speaker 2: your mind. The ministry will take the posture of the
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Speaker 2: way you think. The vibrancy we see in the ministry
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Speaker 2: will be a reflection of your level of diligence. Every
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Speaker 2: trait magnified in the ministry are your secret traits. You
33:55
Speaker 2: must understand that. The anointing flows from the head to
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Speaker 2: the beard, then the skirt. If you have issues with
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Speaker 2: rebellion always, check your posture towards God. Do you understand
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Now, in ministry you will always have
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Speaker 2: certain issues. I'm going to talk about that some other time.
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Speaker 2: But once this becomes every time... Can I say a
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Speaker 2: few things to you? You know, one time, see, one
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Speaker 2: thing about me is that I think a lot. And
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Speaker 2: I think the right stuff. People talk to me and say,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to sit down and investigate. What is this
34:39
Speaker 2: thing you are telling me? It must work. As you
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Speaker 2: are telling me, I must be seeing confirmation that it's
34:45
Speaker 2: working for you. If not, I'm going to shut down.
34:48
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, hey, hey, let me give you an instance.
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Speaker 2: You attend a minister's, a church of a, probably you
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Speaker 2: are a first timer in a church or something, or
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Speaker 2: you are attending a local church. And you discovered that
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Speaker 2: every time your pastor holds the microphone to preach, there's
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Speaker 2: somebody he's talking to. Somebody planned to flog. He flogged
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Speaker 2: somebody with koboko and brought it to church. And everywhere,
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Speaker 2: after the message, there's no joy. There's offense. Everybody's down.
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Speaker 2: Such church can't grow. But there are scriptures such pastors
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Speaker 2: used to justify it. That we are preaching the truth.
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Speaker 2: So they don't like us. And you see, those moments
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Speaker 2: we are saying those things under those emotions. You can
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Speaker 2: say a lot of things. I don't care if this
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Speaker 2: generation does not like me. I don't care. The generation
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Speaker 2: God sent you to. The generation God sent you to.
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Speaker 2: You don't care. You must care. It matters. You must care.
36:02
Speaker 2: And I sat down to check. One time I sat down.
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Speaker 2: I said, ah. You know, anybody who knows me knows
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Speaker 2: how much I love and follow Pastor Ponyo. And I said,
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Speaker 2: is it that in this church, they don't used to
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Speaker 2: offend this pastor? They used to offend him. I watch
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Speaker 2: pastor here. Is it that they don't used to offend Baba?
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Speaker 2: You know what they do to that man? They used
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Speaker 2: to offend him. How come we can't hear it in
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Speaker 2: the message? Maybe, of course, when you go to their
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Speaker 2: ministers' meeting, then you now hear them dealing with real issues,
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Speaker 2: which I've been to. So you can, yeah. You pass
36:57
Speaker 2: a quiz like, let me just come to your town
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Speaker 2: and say, today I'm just so angry, the whole church,
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Speaker 2: just so angry. You won't grow. And the devil times
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Speaker 2: it in such a way that the future of the
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Speaker 2: ministry is around the corner that day. It is when
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Speaker 2: many ministers get to heaven that they will know what
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Speaker 2: they have lost. Let me begin to break this down now.
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Speaker 2: This is the word to you like it was sent
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Speaker 2: to our keepers. See to it that you fulfill your ministry.
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Speaker 2: See to it. Make sure it is your responsibility. It
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Speaker 2: is your duty. It is your duty. It is your duty.
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Speaker 2: Not just to do your ministry. No. He didn't say
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Speaker 2: do your ministry. He said fulfill it. Jesus did not
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Speaker 2: come to do the law. He fulfilled the law. That
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Speaker 2: is he gave it everything he demanded. It's your duty.
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Speaker 2: Some of you are doing ministry. You are not fulfilling ministry.
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Speaker 2: Don't just do ministry. Fulfill the ministry. Fulfill the ministry.
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Speaker 2: fulfill the ministry fulfill the ministry so you need to
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Speaker 2: understand the ministry then you now need to understand beyond
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Speaker 2: doing it to making sure there is no part of
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Speaker 2: the instruction that is not carried out to make sure
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Speaker 2: listen to this when it comes to fulfilling ministry then
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Speaker 2: threefold number one there is no part of the instruction
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Speaker 2: that is not carried out number two there is no
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Speaker 2: potential of the calling that is not explored Can I
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Speaker 2: give you number three? And this number three is the
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Speaker 2: major one the devil fights the most. There is no
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Speaker 2: reach of the ministry that is not covered. That is
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Speaker 2: your ministry as certain side conference. Or certain geographical space.
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Speaker 2: Or certain demography. It must cover. What the devil wants
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Speaker 2: to do. Can I show you this? Look up. What
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Speaker 2: the devil wants to do. As touching that. Is to.
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Speaker 2: he wants to beg you as part of a clique.
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Speaker 2: You are a Paul. Are you following what I'm saying? Okay,
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Speaker 2: you are a Peter. You started out with the Jews,
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Speaker 2: but now God is bringing you to the Gentiles. The
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Speaker 2: devil wants to give you a nomenclature, I'm for the Jews.
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Speaker 2: I belong to the revival movement. And people even assume
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Speaker 2: the streams. And once they assume the stream, they start
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Speaker 2: talking like the streams they have assumed. What I'm bold
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Speaker 2: to tell you now is that you don't even know
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Speaker 2: your streams yet. Do the work for a while. It
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Speaker 2: will be clear. Just do ministry. Don't do streams. Do
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Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying? Don't see, listen to what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. If you don't even understand what title you
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Speaker 2: should wield, whether an apostle, prophet or pastor, do ministry.
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Speaker 2: The ministry will make it obvious. Don't start out and
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Speaker 2: just say, I am this. And then you will have
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Speaker 2: to maintain that in pride. Just do the work of
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Speaker 2: the ministry. Start doing what God has said you should do.
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Speaker 2: Do it at every level you find the opportunity to
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Speaker 2: do it. Don't go and look for streams and say
40:46
Speaker 2: I belong to Paul or I belong to Apollos. Because
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Speaker 2: you must understand that as you live, there are different
40:53
Speaker 2: facets of ministry you come into. There might be a
40:57
Speaker 2: season that what you are doing is teaching. And when
40:59
Speaker 2: that season comes, what you have entered is the prophetic.
41:01
Speaker 2: And when that season comes, what you have entered is this.
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Speaker 2: Forget about the nonsense and the things people tell you
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Speaker 2: that you are going to be wanting. It's a lie
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Speaker 2: of the devil. So the idea is this. Where your
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Speaker 2: flexibility stops, your assignment stops. You'll just keep doing the
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Speaker 2: things you have said you believe. And God will have
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Speaker 2: to move on and give another person the same anointing.
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Speaker 2: And they'll be doing the same work. Why? Because you
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Speaker 2: could not fasten yourself to his child. So to fill
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Speaker 2: your ministry, you're going to humble yourself a lot of
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Speaker 2: times over. You'll have to humble yourself and bend your
41:30
Speaker 2: back and realize that part of fulfilling may be you
41:34
Speaker 2: doing the things you have spoken against. When our ministry
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Speaker 2: started as a Bible study and a discipleship ministry, Friends
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Speaker 2: of the world. I do tell them we can never
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Speaker 2: become a church. That's one of the worst level of
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Speaker 2: foolishness I've seen myself execute. How do I say we
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Speaker 2: can never? How do you put never to what you
41:55
Speaker 2: don't know? It's simple to say we are not a church. Say,
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Speaker 2: will you ever become a church? I don't know. And
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Speaker 2: you must have many I don't know answers because you
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Speaker 2: actually don't know. I even went as far as saying,
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Speaker 2: if we ever say we are becoming a church, leave.
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Speaker 2: So somebody left. And I say, why would you do this?
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Speaker 2: Say you are the one that said we should leave.
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Speaker 2: What you know is what you have received yet. Let
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Speaker 2: me say this to you. Can I even help you
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Speaker 2: with this? No mandate is received once. Let me explain.
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Speaker 2: So even if you say our mandate is this, to
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Speaker 2: bring deliverance, blah, blah, blah, blah. It looks complete. But
42:47
Speaker 2: as you mature and you are given to time, certain
42:49
Speaker 2: clauses will be highlighted. It becomes clearer with time, with
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Speaker 2: practice and exposure. So you will never receive the fullness
42:58
Speaker 2: of it until you start in the first place. Do
43:01
Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying? And once you start, understand
43:06
Speaker 2: that you are limited in the scope. I'm keep trusting
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Speaker 2: God for more. Let me give you an example. My
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Speaker 2: understanding of going to raise God's end time army, when
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Speaker 2: God told me that, is different from my understanding of
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Speaker 2: raising the end time army now. Do you understand what
43:22
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Are we still raising the armies? Yes. But
43:25
Speaker 2: the quality of them will increase as my understanding increases. Now,
43:31
Speaker 2: let me say this to you. One of the ways
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Speaker 2: to fulfill your ministry is that your body of message
43:36
Speaker 2: reflects the mandate. Stop spending time outside the calling. Now,
43:49
Speaker 2: this one is not just teaching. I will have to
43:51
Speaker 2: train in this area. So, I will not just say
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Speaker 2: it in person. Let me explain what I'm saying. What
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Speaker 2: is the tool That distinguishes ministries from ministries. Apart from
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Speaker 2: the mandate. What distinguishes ministry from ministry? It's their emphasis.
44:20
Speaker 2: What's their emphasis? Their message. What's the tool you're expected
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Speaker 2: to fulfill with in ministry? Your message. What makes the
44:33
Speaker 2: difference between what we do in Spirit of Life Church
44:36
Speaker 2: and what they do in Redeem? The message. What informs
44:39
Speaker 2: the message? The mandate. So, what I'm saying is, your
44:43
Speaker 2: mandate determines your message. And, write that down so I
44:50
Speaker 2: can now tell you the bottom part. Are you with me? Now,
44:59
Speaker 2: look up. Once you have received the mandate, that is
45:04
Speaker 2: the general mandate of the house. It means that it
45:08
Speaker 2: is not an apostolic template if you have associate pastors
45:12
Speaker 2: who have different mandates. You can't tell me that God
45:16
Speaker 2: has said we should raise God's head. You're not saying
45:18
Speaker 2: your own mandate in this commission is to raise worshippers. No,
45:22
Speaker 2: you won't preach. You will not have the privilege. From
45:25
Speaker 2: the day I find out, the process to stop the
45:28
Speaker 2: fellow around the altar begins with immediate effect. And that's
45:42
Speaker 2: why you can enter some churches. And this is not
45:45
Speaker 2: a derogatory way. I'm going to use different names. You
45:47
Speaker 2: go to a church. One of the branches looks like
45:48
Speaker 2: Christ's embassy. The same church. You go to another place.
45:51
Speaker 2: Another branch looks like Seventh-day Adventist. The same church. You
45:53
Speaker 2: go to another branch. It looks like Celestia. The same church.
45:56
Speaker 2: Another branch looks like CAC. The same church. Another branch
45:58
Speaker 2: looks like this. Why? deliberate attempt to make sure the
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Speaker 2: mandate and the execution is equal in quality has been stopped.
46:08
Speaker 2: If coke can have the same taste all over the country,
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Speaker 2: your ministry should have the same feel. If coke can
46:15
Speaker 2: maintain the same taste, the same quality, why should ministry not?
46:20
Speaker 2: What happens is that you do not have quality control measures.
46:24
Speaker 2: What happens is that you don't have a definite syllabus
46:28
Speaker 2: raising the quality of these men. And sometimes you have
46:31
Speaker 2: placed the syllabus on the hands of men who are wrong.
46:34
Speaker 2: So I went to a Bible college. And the man
46:37
Speaker 2: who was taking us was sleeping while teaching. And I said,
46:41
Speaker 2: when people are done with this Bible college, they will
46:42
Speaker 2: go for ordination. Under a sleeping preacher. The church has
46:48
Speaker 2: taken time to write down all those things. But a
46:50
Speaker 2: wrong man is taking it. You listen to me. Can
46:54
Speaker 2: I beg you this? You want to be sure that
46:57
Speaker 2: your best hands are in charge of raising the next generation.
47:04
Speaker 2: Listen to this. Not your best preachers. Sometimes the mistake
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Speaker 2: people make is that they give the best preachers.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: Best hands. Best hands are not best preachers, but they
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Speaker 2: release best quality. For it is the quality of their
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Speaker 2: spirit that rubs off. anywhere we are planting church, I
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Speaker 2: don't think about who is vibrant. I think about who
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Speaker 2: has carried my spirit. What God will put on Sphere
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Speaker 2: of Light Church is already in me. It takes somebody
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Speaker 2: growing on the other hand. And that's why in Sphere
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Speaker 2: of Light Church, we don't have a structure. This is
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. No matter where you are coming from
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Speaker 2: and the experts you have done, we will retrain you here.
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Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? How come you can
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Speaker 2: work at Fidelity Bank for 10 years and join Access
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Speaker 2: Bank and they train you for Access Bank? Well, you
47:46
Speaker 2: are a church that somebody has served somewhere else, but
47:48
Speaker 2: they come here and immediately the assistant pastor A bank
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Speaker 2: can be wise, but church is not. So one of
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Speaker 2: the first assignments you want to do as a minister,
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Speaker 2: understand the mandate, build the template that raised the men.
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Speaker 2: That might be for those who are already in active ministry.
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Speaker 2: There are statements that were simple statements that saved our
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Speaker 2: ministry from headache. And I say this with all humility.
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Speaker 2: As much as I hate to see men go, there
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Speaker 2: is also a deliberate attempt to make sure that they
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Speaker 2: are immediate replacement through training. So we train, even if
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Speaker 2: there is no assignment for them, we keep training more.
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Speaker 2: It's better to have people on reserve than for the
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Speaker 2: field to be empty. If football team will have a
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Speaker 2: replacement for everyone on the team, I don't want to
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Speaker 2: say some things because we have different people listening. Maybe
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Speaker 2: at a closer platform I'm going to say a few things.
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Speaker 2: To fulfill the ministry you must insist that you are
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Speaker 2: building according to the pattern shown to you. You must insist.
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Speaker 2: Listen to what I'm saying. You must insist. You must
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Speaker 2: be hard on yourself. You must be hard on yourself. Ministers,
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Speaker 2: be hard on yourself. Be hard on yourself. You want
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Speaker 2: to make sure that you yourself becomes a correct template.
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Speaker 2: If what you want to see is diligence, your life
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Speaker 2: preaches it. If you want to see his holiness, your
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Speaker 2: life preaches it. If it is prayer, your life demonstrates it.
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Speaker 2: Having done that and gotten it right, you want to
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Speaker 2: also insist that the quality of men leading the walk
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Speaker 2: with you are also men who walk with the template.
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Speaker 2: I tell our pastors that what I want exists and
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Speaker 2: it is possible. Some of them may feel, ah, why
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Speaker 2: is it that sometimes our post is just, ah, it's
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Speaker 2: being had on us. It's this and that. We will
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Speaker 2: be till the template is bettered. Let me ask you
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Speaker 2: a question. Okay. Thank God. Where's Dr. We have a
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Speaker 2: few of you here who are doctors. Okay, we have
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Speaker 2: nurses and all that. But please be seated. Imagine a
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Speaker 2: situation where you are handling a patient and you made
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Speaker 2: some mistakes and the patient died. What happens during word round?
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Speaker 2: You face the consequence. They will analyze every situation, analyze
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Speaker 2: every issue. If they can't do this in the hospital,
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Speaker 2: how much more ministries that take charge of the souls
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Speaker 2: of men? That you will not sit down, analyze. What
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Speaker 2: are we doing? I beg pastors, as long as you
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Speaker 2: feel the ministry is small and that's all you are doing,
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Speaker 2: don't walk from home. Because you'll just be sleeping and
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Speaker 2: waking up. Put yourself under stringent condition. If at most,
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Speaker 2: have an office in your house. Have an office there.
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Speaker 2: I walk around the clock. And my wife will always
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Speaker 2: tell me, if you give anybody your schedule, they will
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Speaker 2: think you hate them. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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Speaker 2: You've got to be hard on yourself. Ministry is not
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Speaker 2: for men who are sleeping. It is a work. It
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Speaker 2: is a work. I was speaking with a friend of mine.
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Speaker 2: And he said a statement that rattled me. He said,
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Speaker 2: you cannot be working lesser than those who are tossing
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Speaker 2: up for their mantle. He said to me, he said,
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Speaker 2: you know the fathers are going. You know the fathers
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Speaker 2: are going. How can the generation who is trusting God
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Speaker 2: for their man to be sleeping? The fathers are not tired.
51:49
Speaker 2: You look at Pastor W.F. Kumui. He's walking around the clock.
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Speaker 2: Pastor Higa Adebuwe, 80. Walking, 80 plus. Walking around the clock.
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Speaker 2: These men are in their 80s. Richard W.E. Adebuwe is
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Speaker 2: a walking machine. You see a young man in his 20s,
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Speaker 2: sleeping in the afternoon. Watching Netflix series. You don't know
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Speaker 2: what you are losing. At the time, the template and
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Speaker 2: the grace to spread it further, to get it deeper,
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Speaker 2: should be released. You were caught doing nonsense. Ministry works
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Speaker 2: when men work and cooperate with God. Ministry is a vocation.
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Speaker 2: You have a part to play. A very serious part.
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Speaker 2: A stringent role. So I went to meet one of
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Speaker 2: my mentors before leaving for Abuja. And I went to
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Speaker 2: meet him and I said, so this is what the
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Speaker 2: Lord is saying, sir. And I said, but I want
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Speaker 2: to ask you a question. I said, I observed that
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Speaker 2: every branch of this church that I go to, your
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Speaker 2: workers look alike. It's the same quality at every branch.
52:56
Speaker 2: First things first, let me just say this to you.
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Speaker 2: You cannot have the same quality of workers at every
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Speaker 2: branch if you don't have the same quality of ministers.
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Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? Because they are the ones,
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Speaker 2: if you have somebody who is leaking, everybody will leak.
53:17
Speaker 2: And that's the truth. There's no emotions about it. That
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Speaker 2: is the truth. Do you understand what I'm saying? I said,
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Speaker 2: how do you do it? And so I said, let
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Speaker 2: me narrow down my question. What raises men? Is it
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Speaker 2: the quality of the message? Or the quality of the
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Speaker 2: man's heart? He looked at me and said, none of
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Speaker 2: the above. I said, sir. He said, none of the above.
53:47
Speaker 2: He said, don't overrate your message. It is powerful, but
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Speaker 2: don't overrate it. He said, what really raises men of
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Speaker 2: quality is structure. Do you understand what I'm saying? Because
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Speaker 2: you may preach based on what you feel, but the
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Speaker 2: structure is consistent. Before you become a minister in this church,
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Speaker 2: these are the structure. You go through so-and-so and so-and-so training.
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Speaker 2: You go through so-and-so and so-and-so training. The curriculum has
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Speaker 2: been built, particularly for intelligent ministers who want to preach
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Speaker 2: curriculum from your head always. Your laziness will rub off
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Speaker 2: and kill the work. Take the pain. Sit down and
54:28
Speaker 2: build manuals. Every year I build manuals. There's no manual
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Speaker 2: I use to teach that's from my head. Every year,
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Speaker 2: I'm building departmental. I took some of our leaders on
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Speaker 2: retreat last year. You think we just break into a
54:42
Speaker 2: new year? Everything we are doing in the new year
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Speaker 2: is planned out. Discussed and planned. We are coming to
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Speaker 2: the new year to execute. Discussed, planned. I used to
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Speaker 2: do it alone. I get into Daniel Fast. I tell
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Speaker 2: my wife, what you only bring to me at the
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Speaker 2: hotel is so and so and so and so. I'm
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Speaker 2: okay with it. Till I return back home. Alright. And
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Speaker 2: they bring that every night. I'm very fine. Till I return.
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Speaker 2: And I begin to press. Begin to check. What have
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Speaker 2: we done? What have we not done right? In those
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Speaker 2: days I begin to chat up members that have not
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Speaker 2: joined the church not too long. What do you think
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Speaker 2: we should adjust in this church? What do you see?
55:26
Speaker 2: Ask questions. Sit down. Watch people have been learning from
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Speaker 2: the light. It is work. Work. It is work. It
55:38
Speaker 2: is work. It is work. We have a spirit of
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Speaker 2: light leadership academy going on at the moment because we
55:54
Speaker 2: discovered that there were certain loopholes. And when you see loopholes,
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Speaker 2: have a curriculum that feels it. Not a message, a curriculum.
56:08
Speaker 2: We began to see loopholes. And I hear strange things sometimes.
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Speaker 2: How do you have a ministry where every time we
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Speaker 2: are going in a direction, somebody can just stand up
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Speaker 2: and say, actually, this, this, this. It's not like this.
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Speaker 2: Some people are saying this. Saying that among both those
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Speaker 2: who are learned and those who are not. We can't
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Speaker 2: control it. This fellow doesn't know something. There's a need
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Speaker 2: to do more than saying it. We need to realize
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Speaker 2: that the type of this person, this fellow is not
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Speaker 2: a bad person, but this fellow doesn't know much. The
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Speaker 2: type will come every season. So there's a need to
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Speaker 2: have a curriculum that takes care of that type. The
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Speaker 2: problem with teaching is that you are dealing with a
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Speaker 2: person and an issue. Curriculum deals with the type. It
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Speaker 2: settles it across all generations. Oh, this, this, this. We
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Speaker 2: observe that we have a case where workers are fighting.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen here. It can't happen here. You are gone.
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Speaker 2: Workers are fighting with themselves, abusing their leaders. Something is wrong.
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Speaker 2: Don't just correct the worker. See that their type are
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Speaker 2: still there. We have not fought. Ministries work. It is
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Speaker 2: for laborers. Who are ready to take responsibility for every part.
57:29
Speaker 2: You know, there are pastors who don't write messages. They
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Speaker 2: don't write anything. They just come. And as the wind
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Speaker 2: carries them, it just starts picking. That's pride. Pride. That's pride.
57:47
Speaker 2: And such a man cannot be trusted with much more.
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Speaker 2: Because you are not faithful over little. That's pride. It
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Speaker 2: takes pride to appear before God's people unprepared. And some
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Speaker 2: even conduct ordination without fasting. Where have you learnt from?
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Speaker 2: It's work. It's work. Now what we do in Swell
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Speaker 2: Black Church, and I'm not using Swell Black as a temple,
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Speaker 2: I'm just sharing examples, is that across all our branches,
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Speaker 2: We teach the same thing on Sundays. Everywhere. We have
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Speaker 2: a review on Saturday night. We pray after the review.
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Speaker 2: Every resident pastor joins the review. We discuss what we
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Speaker 2: are going to teach. You can't get to church on
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Speaker 2: Sunday and say you feel like teaching something else. This
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Speaker 2: is sphere of light church, but that is in Ife,
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Speaker 2: or in Abeokuta, in Ibadan or Abuja. The idea is
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Speaker 2: that it's still sphere of light church. The same curriculum
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Speaker 2: must feed everyone. Not that some people are going up,
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Speaker 2: some people are going down. Same thing. But different men
58:52
Speaker 2: will handle it different ways. Because they have developed themselves
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Speaker 2: to a different capacity. Capacity will always reflect. It is
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Speaker 2: not just about anointing. What you have built will show.
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Speaker 2: It will show. So as a minister, you want to labor.
59:08
Speaker 2: Let me show you a scripture. Act of the apostasy.
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Speaker 2: chapter number 6, verse 1. Act 6-1. I'm giving you
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Speaker 2: a template for your ministry. Act 6-1. Quickly. Now look
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Speaker 2: at this. And in those days when the number of
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Speaker 2: disciples were multiplied, there arose murmuring of the Grecians against
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Speaker 2: the Hebrews. Now these are their widows. Because their widows
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Speaker 2: were neglected in daily ministration. Yes. And the twelve, then
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Speaker 2: the twelve called the multitude of disciples unto them and said,
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Speaker 2: meaning that the twelve at first had a meeting. They've
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Speaker 2: concluded that the reason we're having this problem is because
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Speaker 2: we are doing this. It is not reason. That we
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Speaker 2: should leave the word and serve at tables. Now listen
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Speaker 2: to what I'm saying. Look up past us. Let me
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Speaker 2: give this advice. I'm going to give it once. In fact,
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Speaker 2: if you didn't hear well the first time, I will
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Speaker 2: not repeat it. As the ministry grew, get out of counseling.
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Speaker 1: Alright?
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Speaker 2: Say it is not the reason for us to leave
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Speaker 2: the word and serve at tables. Let me tell you
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Speaker 2: the reason why I said what I said. Once you
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Speaker 2: are the counselor and the preacher, you can no longer
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Speaker 2: preach freely by the Spirit. They will say it is
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Speaker 2: what you have counseled them upon that you are preaching with.
1:00:37
Speaker 2: You don't need to know too much. Paul said, I
1:00:38
Speaker 2: didn't know anything amongst you save Christ and Him crucified.
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Speaker 2: People will be offended because you said so. And you
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Speaker 2: said it by the Spirit. He has said. Moses praying
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Speaker 2: would have died Unless Jethro came. You must understand. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: it is not spiritual men that will save your ministry.
1:00:57
Speaker 2: It is professionals. Those who understand management. Who understand leadership.
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Speaker 2: Who understand accounts. How it works. Who can sit with it.
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Speaker 2: And let me say this to you. You want to
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Speaker 2: destroy the work? Be the all in all. You want
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Speaker 2: the ministry to die? Be the Holy Lord. What will
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Speaker 2: happen is that the ministry will be strong where you
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Speaker 2: are strong and weak where you are weak. What I
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Speaker 2: want to do is to find out the quality of
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Speaker 2: men who are stronger than I am. I noticed in
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Speaker 2: our ministry that I lack what it, and I'm saying
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Speaker 2: this without any doubt of anything, I don't have what
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Speaker 2: it takes to manage the Gen Z's well the way
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Speaker 2: I should. And when God said it's time to manage them,
1:01:47
Speaker 2: I look amongst the men. Who is speaking their language?
1:01:50
Speaker 2: God speak to me. And I prayed about several names
1:01:53
Speaker 2: and God said, send it. Men, I'm telling you this
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Speaker 2: with all humility. I look at their pictures on Sundays.
1:02:00
Speaker 2: I look at their pictures the way they're excited. They
1:02:03
Speaker 2: are wearing their jeans, their everything, taking pictures. I said,
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Speaker 2: if I'm the one pastoring these guys, some of them
1:02:08
Speaker 2: would have left. You must accept it. So that there
1:02:15
Speaker 2: is continuity even when you are weak. God has not
1:02:25
Speaker 2: called you to prove you are the best. He has not.
1:02:31
Speaker 2: Don't be under such pressure. As a leader, you are
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Speaker 2: a broker of gift and talent. Find men who can
1:02:39
Speaker 2: do it. Train them. That's the one they don't have.
1:02:44
Speaker 2: Give them that one so they can do it for long.
1:02:47
Speaker 2: I don't have time to show you the compulsory ingredient
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Speaker 2: in every training. But make sure you give them training.
1:02:54
Speaker 2: So they can go and then get it done. The
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Speaker 2: proof that you have trained them is that they will
1:03:00
Speaker 2: not be lifted in pride. Can I sing? I can't.
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Speaker 2: If I have to sing, they will have to quickly
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Speaker 2: join me because I can't go off. I can't play
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Speaker 2: the keyboard. One time like that, I was the keyboardist
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Speaker 2: in the family house. I don't even know how they cope.
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Speaker 2: And when I try, I say, how did they even?
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Speaker 2: No wonder they were not dancing. Ta-wah, ta-wah, ta-wah, ta-wah, ta-wah.
1:03:31
Speaker 2: So God says, I want to say some things about it.
1:03:41
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you are careful. It's not just about
1:03:43
Speaker 2: speaking the truth. It's also about who you are giving
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Speaker 2: it to. Like people who are not ready for certain
1:03:49
Speaker 2: body of knowledge. So, to fulfill the work. Focus your
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Speaker 2: attention only on what you cannot delegate. Any other thing
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Speaker 2: should be delegated. It is not a reason for us
1:04:26
Speaker 2: to leave the Word and serve at tables. So let's
1:04:30
Speaker 2: look amongst us. Men who can do those things. So
1:04:32
Speaker 2: we will give ourselves only to what? Prayer. And to
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Speaker 2: the ministry of the word. In fact, if you are
1:04:39
Speaker 2: not given to these two things, your spirit will become
1:04:41
Speaker 2: so damp that you will lose your cutting edge. You
1:04:46
Speaker 2: will be struggling. You will be struggling. Do you understand
1:04:49
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? You are given to prayers. Why do
1:04:51
Speaker 2: we pray before we teach? That's a sign of humility.
1:04:55
Speaker 2: That I do not have the directions and all the
1:04:57
Speaker 2: corners the word was accurately touched. I need to pray
1:05:00
Speaker 2: so that I can be subjected. Under the influence of
1:05:03
Speaker 2: the spirit more. I speak by him. And get more done.
1:05:06
Speaker 2: Under his influence. That's why we pray. And that's why
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Speaker 2: we do it for long. Are you following what I'm saying?
1:05:15
Speaker 2: You pray till you are fired up. There's going to
1:05:19
Speaker 2: be a lot of demonic clusters. There will be demonic activities.
1:05:23
Speaker 2: In the ministry. As long as you are not praying.
1:05:25
Speaker 2: Jesus told Peter. The devil has desired you. But I
1:05:28
Speaker 2: prayed for you. So you are going to be having issues.
1:05:31
Speaker 2: The devil has desired, desired, desired. You begin to pray. Listen, listen, listen.
1:05:37
Speaker 2: Why did he not say the same thing to Judas?
1:05:39
Speaker 2: Because at that point, Judas was one with the temptation.
1:05:44
Speaker 2: Let me say this to you. Let me explain. Let
1:05:47
Speaker 2: me explain. The people you can rescue are those who
1:05:50
Speaker 2: are not one with the test. The devil is bringing
1:05:54
Speaker 2: a temptation of betrayal and rebellion and all those things.
1:05:58
Speaker 2: Anyone who through process of growth in their heart have
1:06:02
Speaker 2: been aligning to become one with it. Now they are
1:06:04
Speaker 2: inseparable from that spirit. There's nothing you can do. All
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Speaker 2: you have to do is to tell them that which
1:06:08
Speaker 2: you want to do, do it quickly. But those that
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Speaker 2: have a separate heart but they're under influence, you can
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Speaker 2: bring them out. I know what I've said is not
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Speaker 2: for you. When you get to the field, you will
1:06:22
Speaker 2: play back. Do you understand what I'm saying? We give
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Speaker 2: ourselves to what? Prayer. And to what? The ministry of
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Speaker 2: the word. I said to you that your mandate determines
1:06:39
Speaker 2: your message. Hear me. Hear me. So what mistakes are
1:06:43
Speaker 2: people making now? They are preaching the message about who
1:06:46
Speaker 2: has another mandate. Once you know the mandate, You have
1:06:56
Speaker 2: to labor for the message to jump out. You will labor.
1:07:01
Speaker 2: You will search the scriptures. You will search the scriptures.
1:07:06
Speaker 2: Now you are searching in line with that mandate. There
1:07:08
Speaker 2: is a body of message that must produce the quality
1:07:11
Speaker 2: of people God has said I should go and raise.
1:07:15
Speaker 2: There is a body of message that must meet the
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Speaker 2: needs of the people God has said I should go
1:07:19
Speaker 2: and meet. Guess what? Your mandate also determines your programs.
1:07:26
Speaker 2: Meaning that you don't just put programs on ground. It
1:07:29
Speaker 2: must align. Why do we have this program? It has
1:07:31
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the mandate. You just say, I'm
1:07:33
Speaker 2: just going to have it. The choir of this church
1:07:38
Speaker 2: have not been able to. Thank God now every branch
1:07:42
Speaker 2: can do their stuff. There are things that are for
1:07:44
Speaker 2: the community of the church. Church community. They can say,
1:07:48
Speaker 2: we want to have choir concert. Thank God. Choir concert 2023.
1:07:54
Speaker 2: But you cannot have the choir concert and say, we
1:07:55
Speaker 2: are bringing apostles. Have your choir concert. You have your
1:07:58
Speaker 2: resident pastor. Let him bless you. Coming from Abuja down
1:08:02
Speaker 2: to Ibadan. I've not come for choir concert. I've come
1:08:04
Speaker 2: for apostolic meetings. Every teaching. Do you understand what I'm saying?
1:08:08
Speaker 2: Every time I spend a moment with you, it must
1:08:10
Speaker 2: look like telecompressing one. What am I going to post you?
1:08:15
Speaker 2: The day the oil came on my head, I said
1:08:17
Speaker 2: I will leave worthy of this calling. And I knew
1:08:20
Speaker 2: at that point, there are certain things I can't write
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Speaker 2: online again. So I said, I'm coming all the way.
1:08:29
Speaker 2: What are you coming to do? We're having choir concert.
1:08:31
Speaker 2: We're having children rally. We're having this. No. That is
1:08:34
Speaker 2: for the church community. That is for the local church.
1:08:37
Speaker 2: That's for the family system. There is something for the
1:08:40
Speaker 2: spiritual system. That is where I focus. That's where I sit.
1:08:45
Speaker 2: I tell the pastors, do ground game. Give me air control.
1:08:51
Speaker 2: Do ground game. Give me air control. I need air.
1:08:55
Speaker 2: Every branch will grow without me being there. You know
1:08:58
Speaker 2: the revival happening in different branches right now? How many
1:09:01
Speaker 2: weeks have you spent with us in the West? I
1:09:04
Speaker 2: was getting a report from one of our branches. The
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Speaker 2: people are praying effortlessly. I have not even stepped there.
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Speaker 2: Give me air control. You know what air control is?
1:09:13
Speaker 2: Leave me alone. Let me pray. control that you can
1:09:25
Speaker 2: be in a branch but your spirit is over him
1:09:29
Speaker 2: your spirit is over him air control no nation can
1:09:39
Speaker 2: be called world power without air control in fact what
1:09:43
Speaker 2: makes you powerful is the air control when you see
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Speaker 2: the programs we are having PPC that's air control It's
1:09:56
Speaker 2: air control. That's why the gadgets follow me where I move.
1:10:01
Speaker 2: Because I need to be in the air. Pastor, air control.
1:10:18
Speaker 2: I don't want to overemphasize this. I don't want to
1:10:22
Speaker 2: overemphasize it. There's nothing I can do if you won't
1:10:25
Speaker 2: get it. He said, let's leave ground game. Serving food,
1:10:30
Speaker 2: do all those things, let's leave it. By now we
1:10:33
Speaker 2: should have guys who are powerful enough to do it.
1:10:37
Speaker 2: Leave me to control the air. Because the message that
1:10:45
Speaker 2: feed bulk of the people is coming from you. So
1:10:49
Speaker 2: you want to be without distraction. You want to focus
1:10:53
Speaker 2: on it. The quality of programs. In fact, the kind
1:10:58
Speaker 2: of programs. There are programs that are not necessary. When
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Speaker 2: you see the program and see the mandate, you know
1:11:03
Speaker 2: the man is ignorant. Because how will the program not
1:11:06
Speaker 2: add to the mandate? Look at what programs do we have.
1:11:10
Speaker 2: We don't have too many programs in Spirit of Life Church.
1:11:13
Speaker 2: Festival of Life, that's our anniversary. International Minister's Conference, that's
1:11:17
Speaker 2: to raise ministers. International School of Ministry, that's to raise ministers.
1:11:22
Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? Every other meeting, apostolic
1:11:24
Speaker 2: programs and all that. We don't have too much programs.
1:11:30
Speaker 2: We don't come up with programs for coming sick. Do
1:11:34
Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying? Now, let me tell you,
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Speaker 2: at a level, at a certain point, when we're friends
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Speaker 2: of the world, blah, blah, blah, my mother is having
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Speaker 2: a birthday. Ah, Pastor, I want you to come for
1:11:43
Speaker 2: my birthday. I too will go there. So, what do
1:11:45
Speaker 2: you have to say about Selima? She's a good person.
1:11:48
Speaker 2: Bless God for her. She's... You can't continue that and
1:11:54
Speaker 2: fulfill the mandate. At another level, you stop by day.
1:12:00
Speaker 2: You are getting wedded. So you have to be on
1:12:03
Speaker 2: ground to wed you. You can't continue that. That's not
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Speaker 2: the mandate. That's a local church walk. I don't want
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Speaker 2: to say this statement because people may not say, so
1:12:14
Speaker 2: this way, so this way. There are a few cases
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Speaker 2: of those who are pastors and ministers and you can
1:12:19
Speaker 2: be on ground and you must be on ground to
1:12:21
Speaker 2: join them. then you do those ones. Because these are
1:12:24
Speaker 2: people who have leadership over different people also. Okay? But
1:12:28
Speaker 2: you can't do everything. You begin to shed the work. Oh,
1:12:31
Speaker 2: naming ceremony, only papa can come and name the child.
1:12:33
Speaker 2: It's not true. If you believe in this ministry, you
1:12:36
Speaker 2: must believe in the leadership. You must take time to
1:12:41
Speaker 2: build that. It will not happen in a day. The
1:12:43
Speaker 2: first time people will be offended, but don't stop. That
1:12:46
Speaker 2: they are offended doesn't mean what you are doing is wrong.
1:12:49
Speaker 2: They've just not changed. They've not mastered the culture. It
1:12:52
Speaker 2: is a culture we all must adjust to. Do you
1:12:55
Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? Instead of like church on Tuesday,
1:12:58
Speaker 2: no matter how big and how powerful your church is,
1:13:00
Speaker 2: you all gather to watch me on screen. Say, how
1:13:03
Speaker 2: can I come and then watch on screen? Blah, blah, blah.
1:13:05
Speaker 2: That is the culture. Deeper life has been there for years.
1:13:08
Speaker 2: They've not died. Say, you don't be like Saul. Say,
1:13:15
Speaker 2: the people were living so we changed. No. The right
1:13:16
Speaker 2: people will come. We'll continue. We'll continue. Do you understand
1:13:24
Speaker 2: what I'm saying here? Ministry cannot be done without conviction.
1:13:30
Speaker 2: Everything you do is from that depth of conviction. You
1:13:34
Speaker 2: are not fighting as one beating the hair. You are
1:13:36
Speaker 2: convinced we should be doing this at this time. We
1:13:41
Speaker 2: are not guessing. We are not playing around and trying
1:13:44
Speaker 2: to see what's going on. No, I am convinced. This
1:13:48
Speaker 2: is the exact meeting we should be having now. And
1:13:57
Speaker 2: you can't have conviction if you don't have a secret place. No.
1:14:02
Speaker 2: Once the devil has siphoned you from the secret place,
1:14:04
Speaker 2: we'll see it by the way you are dancing around.
1:14:08
Speaker 2: That's where you go and come back with the template received.
1:14:12
Speaker 2: The template to build with. The template to operate with.
1:14:15
Speaker 2: Are you feeling what I'm saying now? No matter the
1:14:18
Speaker 2: pressure in ministry, I tell my wife, give me time.
1:14:23
Speaker 2: Let me enter the house. Give me two hours. Give
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Speaker 2: me three hours. I will come back. We'll have the answer.
1:14:31
Speaker 2: What am I doing? Searching the heart of God. And
1:14:36
Speaker 2: once the templates were entered in that place, make sure
1:14:39
Speaker 2: you don't have a decision. Because once you have one,
1:14:44
Speaker 2: you'll come back and say God said. And you'll come
1:14:46
Speaker 2: out faster. Because when the devil sees that you're in error,
1:14:49
Speaker 2: he'll give you a sense of satisfaction. After three minutes,
1:14:52
Speaker 2: you are saying, oh, glory, glory, hallelujah, glory. So what
1:14:57
Speaker 2: do you say? I have peace in my heart. Jesus said,
1:14:58
Speaker 2: my peace I give to you, not as the world gives.
1:15:01
Speaker 2: It means that the world can give a supply of
1:15:03
Speaker 2: peace even in prayer. We pray for long so we
1:15:08
Speaker 2: can test the waters. Stop organizing programs anyhow. Every program
1:15:18
Speaker 2: must be An initiative by God to help you fulfill
1:15:24
Speaker 2: that mandate. The programs must help fulfill the mandate. The
1:15:29
Speaker 2: programs must help fulfill the mandate. The programs must help
1:15:33
Speaker 2: fulfill the mandate. Go and check any program I'm doing.
1:15:46
Speaker 2: And when it pleased God, God said, I want you
1:15:49
Speaker 2: to have a healing crusade. Oh yes, no problem. If
1:15:53
Speaker 2: we have to raise men, they have to be whole.
1:15:55
Speaker 2: No problem. But the major focus is to raise God's
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Speaker 2: end time armies. That's it. And how do I raise
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Speaker 2: the end time armies? Through my teachings, through my trainings,
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Speaker 2: through my programs. Through my teachings, through my trainings, through
1:16:15
Speaker 2: my programs. Those are the tools. And what is the
1:16:18
Speaker 2: force that unifies these three tools? The message. See, once
1:16:30
Speaker 2: you are teaching from your head, you don't even have
1:16:32
Speaker 2: a message. The mandate must influence the message. Now, let
1:16:40
Speaker 2: me calm down. Let me stop preaching now. Let me
1:16:45
Speaker 2: now give you Listen to what I'm saying. There are
1:16:53
Speaker 2: two kind or two approach to messages. Number one is
1:17:02
Speaker 2: prophylaxis treatment. Prophylaxis in the sense that you are curing
1:17:07
Speaker 2: something before it happens. You are dealing with possibilities. Number
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Speaker 2: two is curative. Something is going bad and there is
1:17:14
Speaker 2: a need to deal with it. Please look up. Every
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Speaker 2: minister and minister must understand these two approaches. You know,
1:17:26
Speaker 2: and let me say this to you, and I think
1:17:29
Speaker 2: it calls for us to be happy, but there's still
1:17:32
Speaker 2: more work to be done. When I came back, since
1:17:36
Speaker 2: I came back from Abuja, and I went to Lagos,
1:17:39
Speaker 2: came to Ibadan, I'm going to be in Ife next week,
1:17:42
Speaker 2: came back, and I began to look at the same
1:17:46
Speaker 2: people And I was looking at the changes. Not just
1:17:52
Speaker 2: spiritual growth. But in all aspects of their lives. In
1:17:56
Speaker 2: their finance and all that. The same people that have
1:18:00
Speaker 2: wept before God. I remember one of my boys. I
1:18:02
Speaker 2: met him at the toilet post. It was in sanitation.
1:18:05
Speaker 2: I said to him, what do you do? Are you
1:18:06
Speaker 2: a graduate? He said, yes. I said, what do you do?
1:18:09
Speaker 2: He said, nothing. What can you do? He said, he
1:18:12
Speaker 2: doesn't know. What have you learned? He said, nothing. He said,
1:18:15
Speaker 2: I want to help you. What? He said, nothing. What
1:18:19
Speaker 2: is this? While we were praying, I was praying in
1:18:22
Speaker 2: a retreat before the year. One of the things God
1:18:24
Speaker 2: gave me as a template, have community groups. It will
1:18:27
Speaker 2: help you. Alright? Let people have community that they relate
1:18:30
Speaker 2: and all that. So, I went to learn from covenant
1:18:33
Speaker 2: community groups. Try reaching out. Get some, a few things. Now,
1:18:36
Speaker 2: hear what I'm saying. I noticed and what happened was
1:18:42
Speaker 2: that I observed with pain in my heart that something
1:18:45
Speaker 2: was wrong. Almost everybody in church was satisfied with not
1:18:50
Speaker 2: having and who can come and say they have a
1:18:52
Speaker 2: dealing that they should not be working now i for
1:18:56
Speaker 2: this to be happening generally there's a message producing it
1:19:01
Speaker 2: so i saw That the message producing it was that
1:19:04
Speaker 2: I was talking so much about the way God quarantined
1:19:08
Speaker 2: me for some years. As I was saying it, people
1:19:10
Speaker 2: were getting voice of the environment. That even the ones
1:19:14
Speaker 2: who were making money would come and say God said
1:19:16
Speaker 2: they should stop. So I changed my message. Started teaching audacity.
1:19:20
Speaker 2: I pursued marketplace. And I produced them. I'm saying that
1:19:24
Speaker 2: the type of message can change the type of people.
1:19:28
Speaker 2: It is deliberate. You are curing something. It may be
1:19:32
Speaker 2: that your message created it before. But now you are
1:19:34
Speaker 2: curing it. And guess what? These guys are all doing
1:19:37
Speaker 2: fine now. One of my daughters sent me the payslip.
1:19:43
Speaker 2: She moved from earning 20,000 to earning 400 and something thousand.
1:19:49
Speaker 2: She moved from earning 50,000 to earning 5 million. What changed?
1:19:57
Speaker 2: The message! So you know that there are examples you
1:20:01
Speaker 2: don't give because you don't want people to be like this.
1:20:07
Speaker 2: You check it. You come around. What you see is
1:20:11
Speaker 2: produced by what you are seeing. Accept the fault. Can
1:20:15
Speaker 2: I tell you again? What you are seeing is produced
1:20:17
Speaker 2: by what you are seeing. The day you decide mediocrity
1:20:19
Speaker 2: will die, that's the day you start dying. The day
1:20:23
Speaker 2: you look at all of them and say, this one
1:20:25
Speaker 2: is broke, that one is down, this one is this,
1:20:27
Speaker 2: this one is that. What is happening? Enough is enough.
1:20:31
Speaker 2: You start getting the message that ends it. Go and
1:20:37
Speaker 2: check my messages. Go and check. Walkers meeting, I would
1:20:42
Speaker 2: preach and deal with laziness. I would deal with lack
1:20:46
Speaker 2: of ability to keep relationships. These were the problems we're seeing.
1:20:49
Speaker 2: It was not enough to cry in the secret place.
1:20:52
Speaker 2: The tears must translate to a message. Where some offended, yes.
1:20:56
Speaker 2: Some even got angry and left. It doesn't matter. I'm
1:20:59
Speaker 2: convinced about this. A people must be born from this.
1:21:03
Speaker 2: We will not stop because you don't understand it. We'll
1:21:05
Speaker 2: keep teaching it till it comes out. And get what
1:21:07
Speaker 2: I'm saying. One of the ways to really emphasize on
1:21:09
Speaker 2: the message is to preach the same thing with different topics.
1:21:14
Speaker 2: I preach Apostle in Marketplace three times. Go and find out.
1:21:18
Speaker 2: Three times. The same template. The same for different topics.
1:21:23
Speaker 2: And the same people say, keep saying it till they
1:21:28
Speaker 2: see it. How do you deal with lack in the ministry?
1:21:36
Speaker 2: Stop justifying it. Stop. Let me tell you something. Last year,
1:21:47
Speaker 2: I had to make painful sacrifices. I had to sacrifice
1:21:52
Speaker 2: two of my cars. SUVs. And I had to move
1:21:59
Speaker 2: from doing that to taking Uber. Uber. And one of
1:22:05
Speaker 2: those nights, you know, when we sacrifice, we're excited, oh,
1:22:08
Speaker 2: thank God for the prayer, I can do that. One
1:22:10
Speaker 2: of those nights, hear this, the Holy Ghost just said
1:22:14
Speaker 2: to me, you know, sacrifice is good, I said, yes.
1:22:18
Speaker 2: But do you know that? Shall I say what I
1:22:26
Speaker 2: want to say? Because it would deal with religion. He said,
1:22:33
Speaker 2: do you know that each time you reduce the sophistication
1:22:37
Speaker 2: that comes with your level, you destroy your people. There
1:22:44
Speaker 2: is a sophistication you must embrace. It is compatible with
1:22:48
Speaker 2: the level. It is not luxury. It is needed for
1:22:51
Speaker 2: that level. While I understand between myself and God that
1:23:03
Speaker 2: you see the fair Uber bringing me to church, God
1:23:05
Speaker 2: is saying I would have done much more if those scars,
1:23:10
Speaker 2: as beautiful as they are, are intact and I provide
1:23:12
Speaker 2: for my church. And that's when the Holy Spirit now
1:23:16
Speaker 2: told me that you want to hear this? You want
1:23:26
Speaker 2: to hear this? Borrowing money to do ministry is the
1:23:31
Speaker 2: same effect as borrowing church or money. Both is borrowing.
1:23:38
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. Just master how God supplies. You
1:23:48
Speaker 2: can't help God. You can't. It's the same thing. God
1:23:59
Speaker 2: is saying that, listen, my walk, do it my way.
1:24:02
Speaker 2: It is not supposed to put you in stringent situations.
1:24:05
Speaker 2: Do it my way. Pastors, there are sophistication that should
1:24:19
Speaker 2: come with your levels. See, people preach different things. You
1:24:23
Speaker 2: must understand those whose message is not for you. It's
1:24:29
Speaker 2: not for you. If you fail to embrace it, at
1:24:33
Speaker 2: that point, what God should be doing in their lives,
1:24:35
Speaker 2: using you as a template, will not be done. I
1:24:44
Speaker 2: want to say a few more things, but all of
1:24:45
Speaker 2: them will damage some things. Maybe I'm going to control
1:24:50
Speaker 2: how this message gets out. Will I say this? Let
1:25:10
Speaker 2: me say it. Let me say it. As a minister,
1:25:16
Speaker 2: every part of you is needed to grow the people.
1:25:19
Speaker 2: Including your mind. I'm going to give an example of
1:25:25
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So you want to make sure. We
1:25:27
Speaker 2: are not saying break bank. But I'm saying that if
1:25:30
Speaker 2: you want to raise certain quality of people, there's a
1:25:32
Speaker 2: quality of environment you must be in to think like that.
1:25:42
Speaker 2: You are the one who likes to live in ghetto.
1:25:44
Speaker 2: You cannot raise people who will be world changers from there.
1:25:49
Speaker 2: I called a meeting, an emergency meeting about the attempt
1:25:51
Speaker 2: to change certain things in our school of ministry. And
1:25:57
Speaker 2: we had faculty meeting And I had to state at
1:26:02
Speaker 2: the faculty meeting that there are examples we will not
1:26:04
Speaker 2: accept in our school of ministry. Because we are raising
1:26:07
Speaker 2: men from different countries. They don't know different places in Nigeria.
1:26:10
Speaker 2: Don't mention them. And there are courses we have to
1:26:13
Speaker 2: take out because they are not relevant for different nations.
1:26:20
Speaker 2: Talk about being deliberate. If those things were not stopping,
1:26:28
Speaker 2: we are going to change lecturers. It can raise people
1:26:34
Speaker 2: in Lebanon, not those in Canada. And check this now.
1:26:41
Speaker 2: Raise your children in ghetto. It will be difficult for
1:26:44
Speaker 2: you to get them to think straight. It is wickedness
1:26:49
Speaker 2: on God's people to have a bad environment. You'll be
1:26:53
Speaker 2: offended and angry every time because what you are seeing
1:26:54
Speaker 2: is bad. Pastor, you are talking as though you are
1:26:59
Speaker 2: not a man who has gone through process. Yes, I have.
1:27:02
Speaker 2: But the quality of men I'm raising now is not
1:27:04
Speaker 2: the quality I raised then. Don't let anybody speak you. See,
1:27:14
Speaker 2: you know, in the body of Christ, there's plenty of emotions.
1:27:16
Speaker 2: He will talk and observe. You are the pastor who
1:27:28
Speaker 2: is doing Zoom meeting. And the environment you are doing
1:27:30
Speaker 2: Zoom meeting from. We can see the wall. There's charcoal there. Listen,
1:27:37
Speaker 2: this even affects the finance of the church. Nobody can
1:27:40
Speaker 2: give to the church more than what they feel the
1:27:41
Speaker 2: church is already handling. Nobody gives to the church what
1:27:45
Speaker 2: you need. They look at you and believe you are
1:27:47
Speaker 2: handling this. Then they give you at that level. Maybe
1:27:58
Speaker 2: I'm speaking to a few people. You want to make sure. So,
1:28:03
Speaker 2: listen to this. I love God's people so much. My
1:28:07
Speaker 2: environment must reflect what they should become. The kind of
1:28:15
Speaker 2: house I live and I will not steal church money.
1:28:19
Speaker 2: I will not break banks.
1:28:21
Speaker 1: No.
1:28:23
Speaker 2: And that's why I would just say this. I'm not
1:28:25
Speaker 2: going to emphasize because that's not my teaching. If time permits,
1:28:28
Speaker 2: I want to have my last, the people I'm going
1:28:31
Speaker 2: to have my last session with are ministers. And that's
1:28:33
Speaker 2: early Monday morning before I release you to go. That's
1:28:37
Speaker 2: why I want to deal with the issue of finance. Practical.
1:28:49
Speaker 2: Let me say this to you. Lack is not what
1:28:53
Speaker 2: attracts money. It is not because you're lucky that's why
1:28:57
Speaker 2: people will give it to you. No. As a matter
1:29:00
Speaker 2: of fact, people give more to those who have. Listen.
1:29:10
Speaker 2: You will elongate your journey in the wilderness as long
1:29:13
Speaker 2: as you despise excellence. You will struggle for a while
1:29:20
Speaker 2: till the day sense dawns on you. I was saying,
1:29:25
Speaker 2: three advices you're going to give to pastors who want
1:29:27
Speaker 2: to build vibrant ministries. I was shocked at the three advice.
1:29:30
Speaker 2: He said number one, have a very powerful prayer life.
1:29:35
Speaker 2: Prayer and word life. Have a very powerful prayer and
1:29:37
Speaker 2: word life. That's the advice he was giving. He said
1:29:41
Speaker 2: number two, have good sound system. Messages recorded from phone
1:29:53
Speaker 2: cannot change the world. Because they will not even hear it.
1:30:03
Speaker 2: It is good at a level, bad for the future.
1:30:11
Speaker 2: When we're going to Abuja to commence work, we spend
1:30:13
Speaker 2: tens of millions. Now, there are decisions I've come to make. Okay?
1:30:23
Speaker 2: There are decisions I've come to make. Now, this meeting,
1:30:25
Speaker 2: for instance, I have my decision. Particularly as related to finance. Finance.
1:30:35
Speaker 2: I noticed that where there is wisdom, there will be abundance. So,
1:30:40
Speaker 2: I told the people, we are not going to gather anybody.
1:30:43
Speaker 2: What happened when people are going for sons, daughters, mentees
1:30:45
Speaker 2: conference is that they believe their father has called them
1:30:47
Speaker 2: to collect money from their hands. No way. What can
1:30:53
Speaker 2: we do? And I began the process that will initiate
1:30:57
Speaker 2: everything for this meeting before the year began. Here is
1:31:11
Speaker 2: one fact I want to show you. The moment people
1:31:15
Speaker 2: feel it's about their pocket, something will start going wrong.
1:31:23
Speaker 2: You need wisdom from God to tap down provisions in
1:31:31
Speaker 2: a way that nobody will mock God. I personally hate
1:31:38
Speaker 2: disdain towards the things of the kingdom. So I don't
1:31:42
Speaker 2: like to... Learn this. I've taught you. The day I
1:31:44
Speaker 2: will teach giving so you know where I'm... If you
1:31:46
Speaker 2: want to learn giving, go and listen to my lesson
1:31:49
Speaker 2: from Kenan Eber. Practical giving. Simple, basic, balanced giving. I
1:31:54
Speaker 2: taught that I think before I left for Abuja. I
1:31:57
Speaker 2: was here earlier this year. But you know that when
1:32:04
Speaker 2: he's seeking us to give, it's not because he wants
1:32:06
Speaker 2: to pay his rent. What vision did we enter this
1:32:19
Speaker 2: year with to raise and to attract high impact believers?
1:32:26
Speaker 2: What is the general mandate? What are we doing this
1:32:31
Speaker 2: year to raise and to attract high impact? It's going
1:32:44
Speaker 2: to affect everything I teach. Let me say this to you. Now,
1:32:59
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it once. I was speaking
1:33:03
Speaker 2: to one of my friends and he said to me,
1:33:04
Speaker 2: he said, listen. He said, I've listened to you. He said, doctrine, check, everything,
1:33:10
Speaker 2: you're good. He said, once you notice that the message
1:33:13
Speaker 2: is excellent, you will spend almost equal to your rent
1:33:18
Speaker 2: in pushing it. I think I've lost you. Let's pray.
1:33:34
Speaker 2: Let me say this to you. Avoid doing videos when
1:33:37
Speaker 2: your environment is not right. Only a fool markers the weakness. Okay?
1:33:47
Speaker 2: Labor on getting it right. Why? You want to get
1:33:50
Speaker 2: this across to as many people as possible. Let me
1:33:52
Speaker 2: even give you a wisdom. The reason I'm careful is
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Speaker 2: because the body of Christ, there are people, some of
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Speaker 2: the guys don't say, we don't mind that. What he
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Speaker 2: was teaching them is, you see, they don't know. They
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Speaker 2: don't know. So, you have to say this among those
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Speaker 2: who see real hunger and they are doing the work.
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Speaker 2: There are people who are not getting the result and
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Speaker 2: they are not interested. Are you following what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: There are Level of provisions that has come to our
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Speaker 2: ministry just because somebody stumbled on their message on YouTube.
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Speaker 2: What you want to do is to get the message
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Speaker 2: where people can easily access it. One of my friends
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Speaker 2: was talking. He said, God asked him to check Which
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Speaker 2: ministry have the materials you can assess that grows the
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Speaker 2: body of Christ? He mentioned this, this. We assess their material.
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Speaker 2: We agree with this, we agree with that, we agree
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Speaker 2: with that. Then God hacks them. Which ministries are the
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Speaker 2: biggest ministries in Nigeria? As he checked, he saw the
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Speaker 2: same ministry. What does that tell you? Nobody lights a lamp,
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Speaker 2: put under a bushel. If the message is powerful, get
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Speaker 2: it across. Let me say this to you. There are
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Speaker 2: meetings I said I may never be able to attend.
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Speaker 2: Because I feel when they talk to ministers, they do
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Speaker 2: more of giving managerial courses. But as I got the
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Speaker 2: spiritual right, I saw I began to feel like the management,
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Speaker 2: I needed it. So I started availing myself to them. See,
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Speaker 2: everybody talk at their level. If you are not wise,
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Speaker 2: keep quiet. Because you may be wrong what you are saying.
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Speaker 2: If you say the mercy of this person doesn't bless you,
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Speaker 2: it may be that you are not at the level
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Speaker 2: you should. Not that the mercy is not powerful. When
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Speaker 2: you grow to that level, you will need it to survive.
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Speaker 2: And what you want to learn is that there's something
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Speaker 2: flowing from all parts of the body of Christ to you.
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Speaker 2: I've said too many things. And I'm careful. I could
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Speaker 2: have said more, but I'm careful. For the sake of
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Speaker 2: people misunderstanding and misinterpreting. The things I'm saying. And let
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Speaker 2: me say this to you. Whenever God sends you to
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Speaker 2: a territory. Don't go for a few. I told you.
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Speaker 2: When you go to a territory to do a new work.
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Speaker 2: Don't launch hook. Launch net. When you do hook. One
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Speaker 2: person at a time. What have you come to do here?
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Speaker 2: One on one. So I'll bring you. Invite this person. No.
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Speaker 2: God has sent me to. Let's give for instance. I'm
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Speaker 2: new in Ibadan. God has sent me to Ibadan. You
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Speaker 2: know what I'm going to do? under god and they
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Speaker 2: know the way i operate i tell you i prepare
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Speaker 2: yourself i'm coming for a general apostolic meeting who are
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Speaker 2: you when i come you know do you know that
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Speaker 2: we bombarded you high with a lot of meeting before
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Speaker 2: we came to battle no you didn't know it was
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Speaker 2: not occurring to you that we're coming having several meetings
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Speaker 2: you will not really do well in an environment that
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Speaker 2: you're a stranger The way to colonize any system is
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Speaker 2: your word to get there before you get there. Even
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Speaker 2: Jesus sent them two by two where he himself will come.
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Speaker 2: But you are the first person to go. And you
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Speaker 2: think you will do well? No. Send them where you
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Speaker 2: will go. So what are we doing now? We are
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Speaker 2: preparing to enter different nations. We've sent, we've launched our net.
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Speaker 2: What's a net? And they brought me from 25 different countries.
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Speaker 2: And I told them at day one of meeting, I'm
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Speaker 2: not gathering you here to disciple you. You are members
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Speaker 2: of self-led church. It's church we want to do. If
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Speaker 2: you don't know, you want to leave, leave now. See,
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Speaker 2: you cannot raise pillars. You cannot raise pillars without being deliberate.
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Speaker 2: You have to tell them. If you are here, it's church.
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Speaker 2: And if you see people among them that believe you
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Speaker 2: can pastor with you, can you? I'm going to train you.
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Speaker 2: But these are the requirements. Do you get what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: We've been having International School of Ministry prayer for singles
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Speaker 2: in diaspora doing all those things why we are going
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Speaker 2: there our word was go to where we are going
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Speaker 2: because they will need to encounter the word for them
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Speaker 2: to be waiting for us you will struggle if you
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Speaker 2: get there first Do you understand what I'm saying? I
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Speaker 2: can go on and on and on. Many ministers are spineless.
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Speaker 2: One time like that, we were going to have a meeting.
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Speaker 2: Our ministry was just even starting. I knew there was something.
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Speaker 2: Remember that day? They said, President or fellowship said it's
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Speaker 2: not releasing. I said, put him on the phone. You
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Speaker 2: remember that day? I said, put him on the phone.
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, do you know who is talking to you?
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Speaker 2: Release that sound now. we're not even gathering 50 people
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Speaker 2: I'm talking to you release that sound I need it
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Speaker 2: why don't you go and tell the people who want
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Speaker 2: the quote they must have need of it by what
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Speaker 2: spirit was he speaking sorry sir he released it and
1:39:33
Speaker 2: came to set one time we had a meeting he
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Speaker 2: said coach the coach was giving a problem I said
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Speaker 2: let's go to where he is See, let's go there.
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Speaker 2: I stepped into that place. It was a surprise. You
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Speaker 2: know that? The same coach saw me, skinny and all that,
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Speaker 2: broad chair. I said, please sit down, sir. Sit down.
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Speaker 2: Where's fine? Are you fine, sir? This same man, by
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Speaker 2: what authority? I stepped to place. They said, this is easy.
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Speaker 2: Shut down now. I'm coming to use this place. Listen
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Speaker 2: to what I'm saying. This is not bold phrase. Don't
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Speaker 2: try it. I have prayed something true. I'm to execute
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Speaker 2: it through speaking. How do you pass off? When I
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Speaker 2: go to Abuja, first week I began to tell them,
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Speaker 2: we are leaving this place. I said, we are leaving
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Speaker 2: this place. After three weeks or so, one acre showed up.
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Speaker 2: Listen to what I'm saying. I began to talk about
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Speaker 2: project before the money comes. Money finance what is on ground,
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Speaker 2: not what is on your mind. We have it on ground.
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Speaker 2: We have seen it. Not that I'm still thinking. No!
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Speaker 2: I have priced it and this is the price. That's
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Speaker 2: when God responds. Listen to what I'm saying. Every ministry
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Speaker 2: will do better when they have a project. Because God supplies.
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Speaker 2: You are the one killing the ministry by not having
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Speaker 2: a project. And let me say this to you. I've
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Speaker 2: checked these statistics. The finance of our people grew during project.
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you. After I tell you about it, just shoot.
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Speaker 2: At the level. Jobs, jobs, jobs, opportunities, opportunities, opportunities. I
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Speaker 2: know how many people have had to quietly dedicate and
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Speaker 2: bless multi-millionaire infrastructures. Some outside the country. Just speak your word, sir.
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Speaker 2: What shifted? The world. We are going to leave this place. Why?
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Speaker 2: Because I didn't come to this city with hook. I
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Speaker 2: came with net. I came with net. Net. Give me
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Speaker 2: a place where once we launch out the net, we
1:41:47
Speaker 2: can have a great catch and mature them there. Ministry
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Speaker 2: requires audacity. It is for the bold, not for the spineless.
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Speaker 2: Some of you ministers struggle to hear your own message
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Speaker 2: because you hate the way you sound. It will not
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Speaker 2: touch the world until you love it. Do you understand
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? When I hear my teachings, I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: I love the way I sound. I love the body
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Speaker 2: of wisdom and the doctrine. This is not what you
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Speaker 2: are doing, testing, testing. It's been for a while. Do
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Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying? Are you seeing that you
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Speaker 2: have a role to play? You have serious work to
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Speaker 2: do as a minister and as a ministry gift. Stop
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Speaker 2: playing small and letting God's people get destroyed. Stop saying
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Speaker 2: small things. You can't touch nations with the way you
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Speaker 2: are doing. You can't. You can't. You can't. That sense
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Speaker 2: of urgency informs the way you pray. Informs the way
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Speaker 2: you labor. Informs your activities. Sense of urgency. Sense of urgency.
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Speaker 2: Sense of urgency. But the balance is this. You don't
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Speaker 2: play outside the scope of your calling. But everything required
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Speaker 2: to do within the frame of the calling, do it.
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Speaker 2: With all diligence. Let's bow our heads as we pray.
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Speaker 2: Do you want to rise on your feet? And if
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Speaker 2: there's something you've seen. Or something that stood out for
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Speaker 2: you in the meeting. I don't know what. I've spoken
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Speaker 2: to all of you. Depending on what your area of
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Speaker 2: need is. So you can communicate it to God. Depending
1:43:29
Speaker 2: on what was revealed to you. Let's be fast. We
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Speaker 2: have to wrap up this session now. Oh, oh, I'm
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Speaker 2: four minutes past time. Alright. In Jesus' name we are praying.
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Speaker 2: Now let me say this to you. Did I hurt it?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: Maybe some other time. Let me hurt it. In ministry,
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Speaker 2: free venue is not a gift. It's a trap. Because
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Speaker 2: you will never have faith to provide for it. The
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Speaker 2: day they sack you, you will have to start from
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Speaker 2: square one. I don't know who that word is for. Ah,
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Speaker 2: people are ministers. Let me just give you this free venue. No.
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Speaker 2: I will not do for my God what won't cost
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Speaker 2: me anything. Our faith needs to grow. Many ministers enter
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Speaker 2: into trouble when they leave their free venue. That's when
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Speaker 2: they describe that they have capacity, they didn't build it. Father,
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Speaker 2: I ask that the eyes of your children be enlightened.
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Speaker 2: I ask that That ministers will receive strength and invigoration
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Speaker 2: to do what is right and do it well. When
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Speaker 2: they leave this place, they know exactly what to execute.
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Speaker 2: They know what to put in place. By your mighty hand,
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Speaker 2: oh Lord, raise giants from this place in the name
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Speaker 2: of Jesus. None of you will be small and you
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Speaker 2: will not die before your time. It is done in
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Speaker 2: Jesus' mighty name.
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