Latest / The conspiracy / The ROUND HOUSE_ The Most DISTURBING Place On Earth (The NETHERLANDS House of HORRORS)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Deep in the woods of an extensive forest south of Nonspeed, Netherlands,
- 0:04Speaker 1: there resides a park with the remains of a house
- 0:06Speaker 1: with a very, very dark and disturbing history. In eighteen
- 0:10Speaker 1: ninety five, Frank Willem van Vloten of Dutch purchased three
- 0:13Speaker 1: hundred and sixty acres of land and founded the company
- 0:16Speaker 1: New Nunspeed. With his brother Willem van Volten cultivated the land.
- 0:20Speaker 1: He planted trees and crops and brought many different types
- 0:23Speaker 1: of animals including pigs, cows, horses, chickens, ducks, turkeys and
- 0:27Speaker 1: peacocks onto the property, and in nineteen oh six the
- 0:30Speaker 1: first stone was laid of a round villa which would
- 0:32Speaker 1: become known as het Ronda Hughes or the Roundhouse. The
- 0:37Speaker 1: roundhouse had three floors and a flat roof. A balcony
- 0:40Speaker 1: surrounded it and on the third floor the gallery received
- 0:43Speaker 1: daylight through a colored glass dome on the roof. It
- 0:46Speaker 1: looked like any other beautiful house, but the truth was
- 0:49Speaker 1: that the house was surrounded by conspiracies and rumors. Allegations
- 0:53Speaker 1: of occultism, Satanism and the like, encased in its round
- 0:57Speaker 1: walls and in the park where its remains lie Today,
- 1:00Speaker 1: join me as we dive down this deep, dark rabbit
- 1:03Speaker 1: hole on a subject you've probably never heard of, dealing
- 1:06Speaker 1: with a house that could be one of the most
- 1:08Speaker 1: evil places on earth, where powerful played games with children,
- 1:12Speaker 1: took innocence, performed rituals, and embraced the darkness. I'm your host,
- 1:16Speaker 1: Colin Brown, and you're watching The Conspiracy Files. All right, everybody,
- 1:27Speaker 1: I hope you have had a great week so far.
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's going to be Wednesday when this comes out. As always,
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- 1:57Speaker 1: I always say this at the beginning, but I don't
- 1:59Speaker 1: plan on doing it to myself. So if something does
- 2:02Speaker 1: happen in the near future, it wasn't by my own hand.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I hate that I have to say that, but I
- 2:06Speaker 1: really do get concerned sometimes, especially people in the comments
- 2:10Speaker 1: always told me that I need to be concerned. Freaks
- 2:12Speaker 1: me out a little bit more. But yeah, if you
- 2:14Speaker 1: also would like to read more about this subject, A
- 2:17Speaker 1: lot of the articles that the information from this show
- 2:19Speaker 1: was gathered from are written in Dutch, so they're hard
- 2:23Speaker 1: to translate and hard to read. But if you want
- 2:24Speaker 1: to take a look through all that stuff, there's a
- 2:26Speaker 1: resources document in the description of the show, so you
- 2:29Speaker 1: can go check out all the links, read all the
- 2:30Speaker 1: documents and see for yourself that we're not making stuff
- 2:33Speaker 1: up here on the show. I want to thank Rebecca
- 2:35Speaker 1: for helping research and write this script and bring this
- 2:37Speaker 1: whole thing to life and without further ado. Guys, this
- 2:40Speaker 1: is a really, really dark one and I'd never heard
- 2:42Speaker 1: of this place until somebody on one of my videos
- 2:45Speaker 1: here on the Conspiracy Files commented and said you should
- 2:47Speaker 1: look into this place next, and I did, and wow,
- 2:51Speaker 1: it's like every single country has a place like this.
- 2:54Speaker 1: In Belgium, it's the Chateau dan Roy. In the United States,
- 2:57Speaker 1: I mean, you got a number, but the main one's
- 2:59Speaker 1: really like Epstein Island or North Fox Island in England.
- 3:02Speaker 1: It's the guest house. There are certain spots that seem
- 3:05Speaker 1: to become magnets for evil, and the Roundhouse that we're
- 3:08Speaker 1: talking about today is one of those places. And as
- 3:11Speaker 1: always I want to warn everybody, this is a graphic
- 3:13Speaker 1: and disturbing show, so there are going to be some
- 3:15Speaker 1: unpleasant details we're going to go over, so viewer and
- 3:18Speaker 1: listener discretion is advised. First we need to look into
- 3:22Speaker 1: the history of the roundhouse. So Frank van Vloten was
- 3:25Speaker 1: a son of the philosopher and freethinker Johannes van Vloten
- 3:29Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen to eighteen eighty three, who's known as a
- 3:32Speaker 1: Spinoza expert and contributed to the spread of modern humanism.
- 3:36Speaker 1: He received a liberal education and was not baptized. Frank's
- 3:40Speaker 1: three sisters all married well known avant garde artists from
- 3:43Speaker 1: the circle of the tach Tigers. The writer Frederick van Eden,
- 3:47Speaker 1: who founded the workers Commune Walden in eighteen ninety eight,
- 3:50Speaker 1: was Frank's brother in law, as was the poet and
- 3:53Speaker 1: essayist Albert Verwet. In eighteen eighty eight, Frank van Vloten
- 3:57Speaker 1: had married Constance lands and had two sons. They settled
- 4:00Speaker 1: on the two support floors of the roundhouse, while the
- 4:03Speaker 1: supervisor and his family lived on the lower floor. Later,
- 4:06Speaker 1: in nineteen oh eight, Constance accused Frank of having committed
- 4:10Speaker 1: adultery with a governess, which dissolved his marriage. In nineteen fifteen,
- 4:14Speaker 1: Frank remarried the twenty six year old Henriette v Red
- 4:17Speaker 1: and returned to the roundhouse. There. The couple had two
- 4:20Speaker 1: daughters and lived in the roundhouse for another ten years
- 4:23Speaker 1: or so. In nineteen thirty Frank van Vloten died, leaving
- 4:26Speaker 1: his estate divided and sold, and the roundhouse became property
- 4:30Speaker 1: of Stats bozba Here, a Dutch forest organization, and from
- 4:34Speaker 1: that point on the home began to deteriorate. During the
- 4:36Speaker 1: Second World War, the house was used as a labor
- 4:39Speaker 1: camp of the Dutch Arbite Sunsets. Nearby refugees hid in
- 4:43Speaker 1: the forest in a shelter later to become known as
- 4:45Speaker 1: the Verschollendorp or hidden Village. In nineteen forty four, a
- 4:50Speaker 1: Rhineboat ballistic missile launch pad was constructed on the estate
- 4:53Speaker 1: of the roundhouse, and after the Second World War the
- 4:56Speaker 1: former labour camp became a family resort for socially weak
- 4:59Speaker 1: LIFs families, and finally, in nineteen sixty seven it was
- 5:03Speaker 1: decided by local government members that they would demolish the
- 5:06Speaker 1: roundhouse because it had fallen into such disrepair. So what
- 5:09Speaker 1: was so suspicious and surprising about the so called roundhouse
- 5:13Speaker 1: in which Van Vloten had built. Seems like it was
- 5:16Speaker 1: just a regular old house inhabited by a regular old family.
- 5:19Speaker 1: But this place was absolutely so much more than that.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And now we get into the conspiracies. The first we're
- 5:26Speaker 1: going to talk about is prostitution and strings. Oh my.
- 5:30Speaker 1: The first newspaper reported suspicious rumors surrounding the roundhouse in
- 5:35Speaker 1: the year nineteen seventy six. The first article in non
- 5:38Speaker 1: Speed of Root, written by Dirk Scepter, had called on
- 5:41Speaker 1: readers to send him photos and more information about the roundhouse.
- 5:45Speaker 1: He revealed that the eccentric Frank van Vloten had a
- 5:48Speaker 1: very bad reputation, accusing him to have remarried an orphan
- 5:51Speaker 1: girl of Chinese Indonesian descent in nineteen eleven. At the time,
- 5:55Speaker 1: according to this author, the bride was supposedly unconscious and
- 5:59Speaker 1: only sixteen years old, and according to Forest workers who
- 6:02Speaker 1: witnessed some of this stuff. She was treated very poorly
- 6:05Speaker 1: by Frank. Additionally, Scepter in his article mentioned that after
- 6:09Speaker 1: his first marriage, Van Vloten was said to have lived
- 6:12Speaker 1: for some time in the roundhouse with a woman and
- 6:14Speaker 1: several young girls. He was also said to have been
- 6:17Speaker 1: involved with a nonspeed and during the First World War
- 6:20Speaker 1: was alleged to have lured young Belgian refugees to a
- 6:23Speaker 1: house near Holshorst. These girls were then sent via the
- 6:26Speaker 1: roundhouse to frontlinees in Germany. Keep in mind these girls
- 6:30Speaker 1: were allegedly very young and miners. They were said to
- 6:33Speaker 1: be given away as a business gift. These girls were
- 6:36Speaker 1: after a long journey from Batavia on the Merchant Navy
- 6:39Speaker 1: to the Netherlands and many were of Indian descent. Around
- 6:42Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen, the remains of an unknown girl were found
- 6:46Speaker 1: in the wooded area near the roundhouse, and according to Scepter,
- 6:49Speaker 1: the author of this initial article, he was told during
- 6:52Speaker 1: his investigation that gentlemen in large, luxurious fur coats and
- 6:56Speaker 1: top hats would leave departing from the local train from
- 6:59Speaker 1: Airsport on the on the wrong side of the train
- 7:01Speaker 1: when it was dark, and later on transfer unnoticed in
- 7:04Speaker 1: nunspeed to a tram carriage that then took them to
- 7:06Speaker 1: Neo Cirell, which was a So apparently there were these
- 7:10Speaker 1: very rich men arriving on the trains in the area.
- 7:13Speaker 1: They would exit the train from the wrong side of
- 7:15Speaker 1: the train so that they wouldn't be seen by people
- 7:17Speaker 1: that were there in the area. Then they would take
- 7:19Speaker 1: like a midnight tram, a secret you know, carriage service
- 7:23Speaker 1: to a completely undetected, unnoticed They would do this in
- 7:26Speaker 1: the dead of night, so that no one could see
- 7:27Speaker 1: these rich, powerful men doing these things. And according to
- 7:30Speaker 1: this author, Frank van Vloten, the guy who built the
- 7:33Speaker 1: roundhouse was supposedly forced to sell it after his first divorce.
- 7:37Speaker 1: One of the drivers of the local train that those
- 7:39Speaker 1: men in fur coats and top hats rode on said
- 7:42Speaker 1: that his mentor had once seen a man and a
- 7:44Speaker 1: woman with two little girls get into the tram in
- 7:46Speaker 1: the eighteen nineties. The children were dressed in black and
- 7:49Speaker 1: wore black cloths over their faces. Author Agnes Teben of
- 7:53Speaker 1: Skepsis noted in twenty twelve that it's possible that the
- 7:56Speaker 1: children that that tram driver had seen weren't there vault untarily,
- 8:00Speaker 1: and reportedly those kids had those veils over their faces
- 8:04Speaker 1: not because they had been at a funeral recently, but
- 8:06Speaker 1: because the adults were trying to conceal the fact that
- 8:09Speaker 1: the children were drugged and didn't know what was going on. Additionally,
- 8:12Speaker 1: the train driver also said that workers were sometimes forced
- 8:16Speaker 1: to let their young daughters work at New Sorel, and
- 8:19Speaker 1: that he'd heard from multiple people that once these workers
- 8:22Speaker 1: allowed their daughters to work at the for one night,
- 8:25Speaker 1: they would never see them again. Keep in mind, we're
- 8:27Speaker 1: talking about daughters that are very very young. We're talking
- 8:31Speaker 1: children working at this. In regards to that tram, that
- 8:34Speaker 1: phantom midnight tram that supposedly went to the roundhouse and
- 8:38Speaker 1: was pulled by a horse through the forest, Sceptor, the
- 8:41Speaker 1: author of that article indicated that there were stories going
- 8:44Speaker 1: around the town that were a bit like something shown
- 8:46Speaker 1: in a horror film. That's a direct quote, but he
- 8:49Speaker 1: claimed that no one dared to speak about it openly.
- 8:51Speaker 1: They were afraid of what might happen. Sceptor the author
- 8:54Speaker 1: wrote about a system of tunnels underneath the roundhouse and
- 8:58Speaker 1: about a young girl who would apparently only seen something
- 9:01Speaker 1: terrible happening at a well in the area around the
- 9:03Speaker 1: year nineteen hundred, writing in the article that quote, she
- 9:06Speaker 1: can never tell what she saw there at the well.
- 9:08Speaker 1: She ran away and never went back to that area
- 9:11Speaker 1: end quote. Dirk Sceptor. That news reporter, reported that he
- 9:15Speaker 1: obtained all the information for his article from Johann Motenburg,
- 9:18Speaker 1: the son of a railway engineer and the person who
- 9:21Speaker 1: bought the disused tram carriage that used to run to
- 9:24Speaker 1: the roundhouse. He renovated the tram and built a small
- 9:27Speaker 1: railway around his house and jop a village below Deventer.
- 9:31Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty eight, he opened pony tram to job,
- 9:34Speaker 1: which was especially advertised towards children. They wanted children to
- 9:38Speaker 1: come ride this tram. Now. Motenburg, the son of that
- 9:41Speaker 1: railway engineer, did research of his own to find out
- 9:44Speaker 1: more about the history of the tram, but he only
- 9:46Speaker 1: discovered rumors about the roundhouse. Motenburg told visitors that his
- 9:50Speaker 1: pony tram had once been used to transport high ranking
- 9:54Speaker 1: gentlemen to a in the area, but he didn't know
- 9:56Speaker 1: any names and he didn't know exactly where they were
- 9:59Speaker 1: going in a the roundhouse. On blogspot dot com. Motenberg
- 10:03Speaker 1: supposedly also provided the following information quote. It was well
- 10:06Speaker 1: known that girls who were involuntarily traveling to and drugged
- 10:10Speaker 1: and feared were dressed in heavy mourning with companions dressed
- 10:14Speaker 1: in mourning. It was then not surprising when they were
- 10:16Speaker 1: supported or held by their arms end quote. So essentially
- 10:20Speaker 1: they were dressing up these children that had been ed
- 10:22Speaker 1: up in mourning gear all black with veils over their
- 10:25Speaker 1: faces to cover up the fact that they were being
- 10:28Speaker 1: an acted out in the open. And it obviously didn't
- 10:31Speaker 1: raise any alarms when people saw these kids staggering and
- 10:34Speaker 1: clinging onto adults around them, because they thought, I'm sure
- 10:37Speaker 1: that this was grief. You know, these kids were going
- 10:39Speaker 1: through a lot, and they were, they were in the
- 10:41Speaker 1: process of being We have to go back to Motenberg
- 10:44Speaker 1: that Railway Engineer's Sons blog. For example, Motenberg reported on
- 10:49Speaker 1: a Calvary lieutenant from a well to of family who
- 10:52Speaker 1: was on an exercise on the Vlou in autumn nineteen
- 10:55Speaker 1: twenty one. According to Motenberg, this Calvary lieutenant's friend asked
- 10:59Speaker 1: him to go expient something together in that area, and
- 11:02Speaker 1: he knew where they had to go, so they hopped
- 11:04Speaker 1: onto a tram and ended up at the roundhouse in
- 11:06Speaker 1: the woods, which he believed was a sex castle or
- 11:09Speaker 1: a with a madame that liked expensive champagne. According to
- 11:13Speaker 1: this story from this eyewitness, once inside the round house,
- 11:17Speaker 1: they didn't find a madame, but a gentleman with a
- 11:19Speaker 1: gray beard who was allegedly Frank van Vloten. Inside of
- 11:23Speaker 1: the house there was an iron staircase, a sort of
- 11:25Speaker 1: stage in a semicircle. There were a number of rooms
- 11:28Speaker 1: with out doors. The rooms were decorated in different styles
- 11:31Speaker 1: and in stiffened postures. There were young girls of different
- 11:34Speaker 1: ages and races. Keep in mind these young girls they're
- 11:37Speaker 1: referring to were allegedly children. Along the blind back are
- 11:40Speaker 1: wide sofas with pillows, So when the lieutenant and his
- 11:43Speaker 1: friend walked in, they turned on a light in an
- 11:46Speaker 1: old fashioned decorated salon, where next to each other on
- 11:49Speaker 1: a divan or couch, a dark and blonde girl seemed
- 11:52Speaker 1: to lie like dolls under a white silk cloth. According
- 11:55Speaker 1: to this eyewitness, his friend knew what he wanted because
- 11:58Speaker 1: he immediately went for the young blonde child and then
- 12:01Speaker 1: told his friend that the other girl was his. According
- 12:04Speaker 1: to this eye witness, the young child was very nicely
- 12:06Speaker 1: laid out and wasn't a day older than fourteen years old.
- 12:09Speaker 1: The child was wearing a pair of long, tight black
- 12:12Speaker 1: leather gloves and a pair of very high stitched gold
- 12:15Speaker 1: colored doll shoes. And according to this witness, because he
- 12:18Speaker 1: was an officer, because he had served in the armed forces,
- 12:21Speaker 1: any army members or any soldiers could come to the
- 12:24Speaker 1: roundhouse and these children all day and night for free.
- 12:28Speaker 1: And these girls were ultimately intended to be used at
- 12:31Speaker 1: large gatherings. We're going to get into what that is
- 12:33Speaker 1: in a second. The girls between ten and sixteen years
- 12:36Speaker 1: old had all undergone very careful treatment. I'm assuming that
- 12:39Speaker 1: that means like mind control treatment or drugging, whatever it
- 12:43Speaker 1: was to make them docile and okay with what was
- 12:45Speaker 1: happening to them. The girls were of different races, They
- 12:48Speaker 1: couldn't hardly walk, they had something called lotus feet, and
- 12:51Speaker 1: the girls didn't speak. He didn't see any of the
- 12:54Speaker 1: children talking. Now that whistleblower also stated that he returned
- 12:57Speaker 1: to the special house twice more during the A couple
- 13:00Speaker 1: days later, in that same very special railcar, the dolls
- 13:04Speaker 1: as they call them, which are the children, were present
- 13:06Speaker 1: in the large hunting room, during dinner, in the dining
- 13:09Speaker 1: room on the terrace, and upstairs in the rooms. According
- 13:12Speaker 1: to this witness, the girls were sitting or lying in
- 13:15Speaker 1: fixed postures. They didn't really seem to move a lot,
- 13:18Speaker 1: and the children of Asian descent only wore a kind
- 13:21Speaker 1: of scarf upon their body. The other children wore silk dresses,
- 13:25Speaker 1: and there were still others that were stuck in modern clothes.
- 13:27Speaker 1: According to this guy, these children were treated like dolls
- 13:31Speaker 1: and they sat on their knees or lied on the
- 13:33Speaker 1: floor with the gentlemen. The conversations that the men that
- 13:36Speaker 1: were visiting the roundhouse had were about politics, hunting, and
- 13:39Speaker 1: other topics. There was good food and good drinks served there,
- 13:42Speaker 1: and money was never a discussion point. According to this
- 13:45Speaker 1: guy who saw all of this, he was told that
- 13:48Speaker 1: everything in anything is possible with these young girls. He
- 13:51Speaker 1: was told that you can go upstairs, or go into
- 13:54Speaker 1: the woods with them, or for a ride for the
- 13:56Speaker 1: saddle you name it. The host, the man with the
- 13:59Speaker 1: gray beard, who we assumes Frank van Vloten, the guy
- 14:02Speaker 1: who built the house, allegedly told that lieutenant that he
- 14:05Speaker 1: already knew that the lieutenant's preference was blonde, and said
- 14:08Speaker 1: that the blonde girl was only there for a short time,
- 14:11Speaker 1: and that the doctor had taken away all of the
- 14:13Speaker 1: legs and cloves so that her feet had become a
- 14:15Speaker 1: lotus foot. So let's just stop there for a second.
- 14:18Speaker 1: So that's translated from a different language. So some of
- 14:22Speaker 1: that description was a little hard to get through and
- 14:25Speaker 1: understand and make sense. So the Roundhouse is this circular
- 14:28Speaker 1: house in the woods Ronda Hughes and apparently once you
- 14:32Speaker 1: go inside, there's an iron staircase and it's a circular house.
- 14:35Speaker 1: So they said there are all these rooms without doors,
- 14:38Speaker 1: so these just open rooms. And this guy who was
- 14:41Speaker 1: in there claimed that there were like children dressed like
- 14:44Speaker 1: dolls pretty much like almost entirely, some only wearing scarves,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and they were positioned in these rooms, not moving, just
- 14:53Speaker 1: waiting for men to come and them. So some of
- 14:57Speaker 1: the girls had sheets over them. Some of them, you know,
- 15:00Speaker 1: we're wearing these scarves. They were posed. They were sitting
- 15:02Speaker 1: on the floor, kneeling down. And these were all children,
- 15:04Speaker 1: keep in mind, age ten to sixteen years old, and
- 15:07Speaker 1: they were all being held hostage in this round house.
- 15:10Speaker 1: They also learned through those interactions that military men. Service
- 15:14Speaker 1: members could come to the roundhouse allegedly at any time
- 15:17Speaker 1: and use any of these dolls. That's what they called
- 15:21Speaker 1: these victims dolls. And I mean, that's a really eerie,
- 15:24Speaker 1: disturbing story. These children are or conditioned to a point
- 15:28Speaker 1: that they become shells of who they were. And even
- 15:32Speaker 1: more eerie details that none of the children there seemed
- 15:35Speaker 1: to speak at all. They were just silent. They weren't moving,
- 15:38Speaker 1: but they were alive. But back to the blog, the
- 15:40Speaker 1: blog also reported that regular visitors to the roundhouse were
- 15:44Speaker 1: also invited to the nightly meetings in the forest, and
- 15:47Speaker 1: they only invited men who had a certain future ahead
- 15:50Speaker 1: of them. The blog also reported that regular visitors were
- 15:53Speaker 1: also invited to the nightly meetings in the forest, and
- 15:56Speaker 1: those men that were invited were men that had a
- 15:59Speaker 1: certain future. So these were men that were going to
- 16:01Speaker 1: be powerful in the world, future politicians, future leaders in
- 16:05Speaker 1: the country in the Netherlands, future business leaders and CEOs,
- 16:09Speaker 1: and they could choose to at that point become a
- 16:11Speaker 1: member in this organization. And allegedly they were then told
- 16:15Speaker 1: to a child in front of the whole group. This
- 16:18Speaker 1: meant that they were then guilty in everybody's eyes that
- 16:22Speaker 1: was in the group, but then they also knew that
- 16:24Speaker 1: everybody else in the group was guilty themselves, So it
- 16:27Speaker 1: was almost like an insurance policy. If you wanted to
- 16:29Speaker 1: become a member of the group, you had to do
- 16:33Speaker 1: in front of this group of men, so they all
- 16:34Speaker 1: knew that you had done this thing, and they could
- 16:36Speaker 1: eventually tell people what you had done, and so you're
- 16:39Speaker 1: not going to rat on those people because they know
- 16:41Speaker 1: what you did. But then at the same time, you
- 16:43Speaker 1: know exactly what all these other men did. So essentially
- 16:46Speaker 1: it was like powerful business leaders and they'd come and say, hey,
- 16:49Speaker 1: if you want to join this club and you want
- 16:50Speaker 1: to keep doing this stuff with us, this disgusting, you
- 16:53Speaker 1: have to do this thing during this group ritual in
- 16:56Speaker 1: front of all of us, so we all have ammunition
- 16:58Speaker 1: against you, because now you're to have ammunition against us,
- 17:01Speaker 1: So none of us are ever going to rat on
- 17:03Speaker 1: each other. Because it's kind of like the concept of
- 17:05Speaker 1: mutually assured destruction, where if one person launches a nuke,
- 17:09Speaker 1: everybody's going to launch a nuke and it's just gonna
- 17:11Speaker 1: nuke half the world. It's the same concept here where
- 17:14Speaker 1: if one person ratted everyone would rat, so nobody rats,
- 17:18Speaker 1: kind of like no one shoots nukes. A man named
- 17:20Speaker 1: Hans Shalwick went to jop in nineteen seventy one to
- 17:23Speaker 1: take a look at that old tram that supposedly transported
- 17:26Speaker 1: the powerful men out to the Roundhouse, and while he
- 17:29Speaker 1: was there in nineteen seventy one, he became very interested
- 17:32Speaker 1: in Motenberg's stories about the roundhouse and decided to investigate
- 17:36Speaker 1: the case further in his spare time. Monteberg, the train
- 17:39Speaker 1: engineer's son who wrote that blog post that we just
- 17:42Speaker 1: discussed about the witness to the Roundhouse, also helped him investigate.
- 17:46Speaker 1: This was just the very beginning of the het rone
- 17:49Speaker 1: Hui working group. This was essentially a citizens investigation group,
- 17:53Speaker 1: and they collected, among other things, testimonies from workers who
- 17:56Speaker 1: had directly work for Frank van Vloten who had seen
- 17:59Speaker 1: what happened at the roundhouse. Now, Hans's working group consisted
- 18:03Speaker 1: of seven people who wanted to investigate these stories, but
- 18:07Speaker 1: to this day he's refused to reveal the names of
- 18:09Speaker 1: any of the other members in fear for their safety. Apparently,
- 18:12Speaker 1: a few anonymous people were active on an Internet forum
- 18:15Speaker 1: called fock and they contacted this investigative group or belonged
- 18:19Speaker 1: to it themselves. Once they opened up this internet forum
- 18:22Speaker 1: and asked people members of the public for stories about
- 18:25Speaker 1: the Roundhouse. Over seventy five thousand messages were posted on
- 18:29Speaker 1: the forum. Historian Wilmer Tall provided a lot of criticism
- 18:32Speaker 1: of this investigative group's research and received new information and
- 18:36Speaker 1: continued to be very secretive, and the mood of the
- 18:39Speaker 1: general public after a while began to shift towards anti investigation.
- 18:43Speaker 1: There were historians that were coming out in public and
- 18:45Speaker 1: in newspapers and everything saying all these things are lies,
- 18:48Speaker 1: these are just allegations, and the public, which was once
- 18:51Speaker 1: interested in the Roundhouse and what happened there, started a
- 18:54Speaker 1: side with the historians who were coming out and saying
- 18:57Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. We know for a fact that all
- 18:59Speaker 1: these people are in his and so that made this
- 19:01Speaker 1: whole job a lot harder. Copies of the first two
- 19:04Speaker 1: folders of investigative reports that this group generated circulated amongst
- 19:08Speaker 1: a few journalists in the nineteen eighties, but for a
- 19:10Speaker 1: very long time no one did anything with them. Essentially,
- 19:14Speaker 1: this group of seven or eight citizen journalists who had
- 19:17Speaker 1: dug up all of these things, had gotten seventy five
- 19:19Speaker 1: thousand comments on their posts on their forums and gathered
- 19:22Speaker 1: all this information about the crimes against children that happened
- 19:25Speaker 1: at the roundhouse. They had sent all this information to journalists,
- 19:28Speaker 1: and the journalists essentially looked at it and just moved on.
- 19:31Speaker 1: They didn't want to touch it. It wasn't until two
- 19:33Speaker 1: thousand and six decades later that another shocking article about
- 19:37Speaker 1: the Roundhouse appeared in must magazine, written by investigative journalist
- 19:41Speaker 1: Tom Beastman. Now, Tom reported that Frank van Vloten, the
- 19:46Speaker 1: guy who built the roundhouse, was known in his community
- 19:49Speaker 1: as the black devil, and that true like referencing MARKD. True,
- 19:54Speaker 1: the monster of Belgium, who we've talked about extensively on
- 19:57Speaker 1: this channel. He said that the true type took in
- 20:00Speaker 1: the roundhouse. Additionally, this investigative journalist stated that Van Vloten's
- 20:05Speaker 1: second wife, whom he had apparently bought from a rich
- 20:08Speaker 1: Chinese man, was called Zwarte and sometimes sat naked in
- 20:12Speaker 1: front of his horse. Remember this Chinese girl was supposedly
- 20:15Speaker 1: a miner who had been unconscious when she had, you know,
- 20:19Speaker 1: legally gotten married to Paul van Vloten, Now, this is
- 20:22Speaker 1: a quote from the article. He said, when the black
- 20:25Speaker 1: devil gets in on his hips, he dumps his naked
- 20:28Speaker 1: wife among the workers in the woods, with the words
- 20:31Speaker 1: here you do with her whatever you want. End quote. Now,
- 20:34Speaker 1: Shaalwick and Montenberg, two of those investigators that were trying
- 20:38Speaker 1: to break the news about the Roundhouse for years, are
- 20:40Speaker 1: sent to have heard during their investigations from a former
- 20:43Speaker 1: forest worker who told them that sometimes a mysterious black
- 20:47Speaker 1: carriage would drive through the forest with girls sitting on
- 20:50Speaker 1: it that had black clothes and veils over their faces.
- 20:53Speaker 1: This forest worker also told the two men that he
- 20:56Speaker 1: had never seen his twelve year old sister again after
- 20:59Speaker 1: she had gone to work at the house for one night. Essentially,
- 21:02Speaker 1: remember back earlier on I told you that people were
- 21:04Speaker 1: so financially strapped back then that they were forced to
- 21:07Speaker 1: let their daughters and siblings go work at these or
- 21:10Speaker 1: specifically the Roundhouse, and then they'd go missing and just disappear. Additionally,
- 21:14Speaker 1: that investigative reporter who published the article in two thousand
- 21:17Speaker 1: and six, Bismont, wrote that the two men, Montenberg and Shalwick,
- 21:21Speaker 1: the investigators, had visited a psychic named Delias Pitt in
- 21:25Speaker 1: nineteen eighty and this psychic had confirmed that Frank van
- 21:28Speaker 1: Vloten was a sex maniac and claimed that the old
- 21:31Speaker 1: Prince Hendrick had also visited the Roundhouse to engage in
- 21:34Speaker 1: deplorable acts with children. In two thousand and nine, Bismont,
- 21:38Speaker 1: that investigative journalist, was approached by Scepter, the guy who
- 21:42Speaker 1: wrote the first article exposing the Roundhouse, who provided him
- 21:45Speaker 1: with new information he had gotten from Canada, and so
- 21:48Speaker 1: he contacted Shalwick, the other investigator from the task Force,
- 21:52Speaker 1: who agreed to provide material for a book that Bismont,
- 21:55Speaker 1: the investigative reporter wanted to write. It was then announced
- 21:58Speaker 1: by his publisher that his book Hetgheim then had Ron
- 22:01Speaker 1: de Woitt was to be published in March twenty twelve,
- 22:05Speaker 1: but that never happened due to a disagreement between the two.
- 22:08Speaker 1: According to Biesmott, the investigative journalist, Schaalkwick, the investigator, didn't
- 22:13Speaker 1: want to reveal from whom he had heard that Prince
- 22:15Speaker 1: Hendrick was involved in the case. Additionally, Schalkwick accused biesemontt
- 22:20Speaker 1: of recycling the story from another one of his books,
- 22:22Speaker 1: and he said that Beistmont was claiming he had investigated
- 22:25Speaker 1: this thing when he actually hadn't. He had just stolen
- 22:28Speaker 1: his own work. Interestingly, Schaalkwick, the investigator, then took all
- 22:31Speaker 1: the research in the manuscript and published the same book
- 22:35Speaker 1: in November twenty twelve with a different name and sold
- 22:38Speaker 1: all one thousand self printed copies quickly after that, Beismont,
- 22:41Speaker 1: the investigative journalists sued him, but there was some explosive
- 22:44Speaker 1: revelations coming. Chalkwick's book claimed that Montenberg's grandmother, who descended
- 22:49Speaker 1: from Willem the third, was employed by the grain merchant
- 22:52Speaker 1: jury on juriance the owner of New Serrell, that original
- 22:57Speaker 1: that we were talking about earlier, where the teenaged girls
- 22:59Speaker 1: would go to work and then disappear. Montenberg's grandmother was
- 23:03Speaker 1: said to have worked there at the as a madam,
- 23:06Speaker 1: so a woman that was in control of the children
- 23:09Speaker 1: on them out and apparently they discovered that after the
- 23:12Speaker 1: roundhouse was built out in the forest, the activities from
- 23:15Speaker 1: the with the children, all that stuff was moved out
- 23:18Speaker 1: there into the middle of the forest to avoid the
- 23:21Speaker 1: eyes of law enforcement or you know, just regular members
- 23:24Speaker 1: of society. They didn't want these rich people who were
- 23:27Speaker 1: supposed to be respected even princes and possibly kings and
- 23:30Speaker 1: whoever else to be seen going to a in the
- 23:32Speaker 1: middle of the night, so they moved it out to
- 23:34Speaker 1: the woods so that none of them would ever be
- 23:36Speaker 1: seen going in or out. Chalkwick's investigative group suspected that
- 23:40Speaker 1: Montenberg's mother also became involved with the roundhouse at that
- 23:44Speaker 1: same time. Chalkwick also claimed that Montenburg himself allegedly visited
- 23:49Speaker 1: the roundhouse once with his mother in nineteen twelve, but
- 23:52Speaker 1: didn't want to say what she had to do with it.
- 23:54Speaker 1: So Montenburg was the guy who at first was helping
- 23:57Speaker 1: with the investigation and wanted to, you know, get involved
- 24:01Speaker 1: and learn about what these guys were talking about and
- 24:03Speaker 1: share some of his knowledge and act like he was,
- 24:05Speaker 1: you know, eager to expose the stuff. But as the
- 24:07Speaker 1: investigation went on and on, they started hearing that Montenberg's
- 24:11Speaker 1: own family members were some of the people who were
- 24:14Speaker 1: running the roundhouse itself. This is all alleged, by the way,
- 24:17Speaker 1: I just want to state that again now. The working
- 24:19Speaker 1: group or investigative group heard that same thing later on
- 24:22Speaker 1: from an unknown woman from a village in twenty to
- 24:25Speaker 1: whom Montenberg is said to have told the same story
- 24:28Speaker 1: when she visited his pony Tram. So apparently this guy
- 24:31Speaker 1: Montenberg told another woman the same thing, that his mother
- 24:34Speaker 1: helped run the operations at the Roundhouse, but for some
- 24:37Speaker 1: reason he failed to disclose this to the people he
- 24:39Speaker 1: was working with to expose the Roundhouse. But there's a
- 24:41Speaker 1: reason why. It's because Montenberg's mother allegedly was pure evil.
- 24:46Speaker 1: You see, Montenberg's mother is said to have brought in
- 24:50Speaker 1: foreign prostitutes to the Roundhouse who were ritually and But
- 24:54Speaker 1: what's interesting is that through conversations that the investigative group
- 24:58Speaker 1: had with former workers of Frank VA and their relatives,
- 25:01Speaker 1: it seemed that Frank wasn't an especially evil seeming guy.
- 25:05Speaker 1: On the outside. He behaved somewhat unconventionally, but a lot
- 25:09Speaker 1: of these people who had worked for Frank back in
- 25:11Speaker 1: the day and their family members had somewhat decent memories
- 25:13Speaker 1: of the guy. They told the investigators that Paul van
- 25:16Speaker 1: Vloten had helped many workers find work and that he
- 25:19Speaker 1: paid them a lot better than others did, and for
- 25:21Speaker 1: a while during the divorce, when Paul van Vlolten was
- 25:24Speaker 1: in financial trouble for a while, some of his workers
- 25:27Speaker 1: even offered to continue working for him for free for
- 25:30Speaker 1: the time being, because they loved him so much. However,
- 25:33Speaker 1: the religious workers did find it terrifying that he regularly swore,
- 25:37Speaker 1: which is a funny little detail. Now in chapter three
- 25:40Speaker 1: of the book that was published about the Roundhouse, there
- 25:42Speaker 1: was a newspaper article from nineteen eighty that read, quote
- 25:45Speaker 1: in the new Soil that was that brothel. There were
- 25:48Speaker 1: always more women and girls, even very young. Not all
- 25:52Speaker 1: girls volunteered here. A forester with a gun guarded the house.
- 25:55Speaker 1: They were there for the benefit of Jurian and his guests,
- 25:58Speaker 1: a group of hunting friends. Those were very rich gentlemen,
- 26:02Speaker 1: also from politics. Many of them. The rich men never worked, hunting, drinking, drugging,
- 26:08Speaker 1: going to the throwing money after hunting with floaters, and
- 26:12Speaker 1: visits to the new sorrel in between. The evening continued
- 26:15Speaker 1: at Hotel Smit now Itman, where there was a lot
- 26:18Speaker 1: of drooting. The owner, mister Smitt, thought it was all fine.
- 26:21Speaker 1: He received a royal financial compensation end quote. So that
- 26:24Speaker 1: newspaper article is basically discussing that this rich family man
- 26:28Speaker 1: and a bunch of his very rich friends, some Nepo
- 26:31Speaker 1: babies that you know, grew up rich and never had
- 26:33Speaker 1: to work a day in their life. They would all
- 26:35Speaker 1: go visit that in the town that the Roundhouse was
- 26:38Speaker 1: outside of, and they would drink all night. They would
- 26:41Speaker 1: the prostitutes and the children that were there, and then
- 26:43Speaker 1: they would go to the hotel that was nearby and
- 26:46Speaker 1: continue doing all these terrible things, sometimes even bring children
- 26:50Speaker 1: into the hotel with them, and the owner of the
- 26:51Speaker 1: hotel just thought it was fine. He didn't really bat
- 26:54Speaker 1: an eye because he was receiving a lot of money
- 26:56Speaker 1: for his silence. Additionally, the book mentioned a man named
- 27:00Speaker 1: Anton Krohler who claimed that he had found his own
- 27:02Speaker 1: hunting paradise in dahope Vloo, which was an area nearby.
- 27:06Speaker 1: The book stated, quote everywhere they were hunted, Dirk, if
- 27:09Speaker 1: only it was possible from the party, from seal hunting
- 27:12Speaker 1: on the Wadden Sea to bear hunting in Eastern Europe.
- 27:15Speaker 1: The Roundhouse was also visited several times for hunting. For
- 27:18Speaker 1: the sake of clarity, hunting to these men meant hunting, drinking,
- 27:22Speaker 1: drugging and women end quote. So these men would go
- 27:25Speaker 1: to the Roundhouse, they would drink, do drugs, and women
- 27:29Speaker 1: and children. It was like their big thing. I don't
- 27:31Speaker 1: know why. In every conspiracy like this, there's like this
- 27:33Speaker 1: hunting angle, kind of like the Chateau de am Roy
- 27:36Speaker 1: they had these hunting parties with children. Here's another place
- 27:39Speaker 1: where there's a tie in between hunting and child. I
- 27:42Speaker 1: think it's because it's like one big game to all
- 27:44Speaker 1: these evil people. But the book also included a testimony
- 27:48Speaker 1: on page thirty seven by an anonymous worker Coachman, who
- 27:51Speaker 1: as a coachman, brought high ranking guests to the New Sorrel.
- 27:55Speaker 1: His quote in the book reads, arriving at the New Sorrel,
- 27:59Speaker 1: I got a good tip from those gentlemen. In that
- 28:01Speaker 1: house were girls, beautiful girls. They were not allowed to
- 28:04Speaker 1: leave there. That's how it was. Then a Missus Burger's
- 28:06Speaker 1: also lived here. She was the boss of those girls. No,
- 28:10Speaker 1: no one was allowed to come there. Additionally, on the
- 28:12Speaker 1: grounds of the Ronda Hues or Roundhouse, spectators have found
- 28:16Speaker 1: many large holes that appeared to lead to specific passageways.
- 28:19Speaker 1: It was thought that they were somehow used or part
- 28:22Speaker 1: of an intricate tunnel system underneath the house that was
- 28:25Speaker 1: likely a part of end quote. Interestingly enough, you can
- 28:29Speaker 1: see one of those passageways in the following clip let
- 28:32Speaker 1: it roll. Now that's a little creepy, isn't it. That
- 28:55Speaker 1: hole in the ground leading to a tunnel system which
- 28:58Speaker 1: in my mind connected the roundhouse to other places in
- 29:02Speaker 1: the area. Could it have connected the roundhouse to that?
- 29:05Speaker 1: I mean to summarize all this information up, there was
- 29:08Speaker 1: basically this in the town that was guarded by armed guards.
- 29:12Speaker 1: People testified that these rich men with fur coats and
- 29:15Speaker 1: top hats would show up, they would secretly be taken
- 29:18Speaker 1: on this special carriage to that they would be you know,
- 29:22Speaker 1: allowed entry into there. Inside of the were children. They
- 29:26Speaker 1: went to work there. Some of them went to work
- 29:27Speaker 1: there because they were destitute. Others were you know there,
- 29:31Speaker 1: but once they were inside, they were never allowed to
- 29:33Speaker 1: leave again. Then eventually the was moved out to the roundhouse,
- 29:38Speaker 1: and the roundhouse is, you know, out in the middle
- 29:41Speaker 1: of the woods. There's a tunnel system underneath the home.
- 29:43Speaker 1: And allegedly there were also children that were and there
- 29:47Speaker 1: as a part of the things that were happening. That's
- 29:49Speaker 1: according to direct testimony from so many different people that
- 29:52Speaker 1: are involved. But that's just the very beginning of all
- 29:54Speaker 1: this stuff. It's it's gonna get so much darker, and
- 29:57Speaker 1: keep in mind this is all just conspiracies. This is
- 30:00Speaker 1: just another debunked story that apparently never happened. There's nothing
- 30:05Speaker 1: to any of this, according to the government in the Netherlands.
- 30:08Speaker 1: So now you've got kind of a basic idea about
- 30:10Speaker 1: the roundhouse, we need to start talking about some of
- 30:13Speaker 1: the bizarre and disturbing allegations of things that happened there,
- 30:16Speaker 1: like weird phallic activities. Now, many workers who worked in
- 30:21Speaker 1: that area around the roundhouse reported seeing strange activities that
- 30:25Speaker 1: occurred on the land around the roundhouse. Entire hills were
- 30:28Speaker 1: dug up to be rebuilt. A little bit further away,
- 30:31Speaker 1: rice fields had to be constructed, but rice was never
- 30:34Speaker 1: grown there. Large quantities of loam, sand, and lime were
- 30:37Speaker 1: also transported out to the roundhouse without anyone ever being
- 30:41Speaker 1: told what they were for. They were essentially getting all
- 30:44Speaker 1: these materials delivered to the roundhouse. Then when the delivery
- 30:47Speaker 1: men would unload this stuff and you know, meet the
- 30:50Speaker 1: people that were paying for it, the owners of the
- 30:52Speaker 1: roundhouse and the people running the place, they'd ask them
- 30:54Speaker 1: what are you doing with all this stuff, Like this
- 30:56Speaker 1: is a lot of sand and lime. They'd say, oh,
- 30:58Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We got a hand and there's
- 31:00Speaker 1: still to this day non explanation officially as to what
- 31:03Speaker 1: all those materials were used for. Well. One possible explanation
- 31:07Speaker 1: is that Frank van Vloten, the man who built the roundhouse,
- 31:10Speaker 1: was appointed by the Provincial Executive of Gelderland as supervisor
- 31:14Speaker 1: of agricultural test fields and carried out agricultural experiments in
- 31:18Speaker 1: the area. Lime could have been used to fertilize the soil,
- 31:21Speaker 1: although the investigative group suspects that it was quicklime, which
- 31:25Speaker 1: is usually a material that's used to make corpses rapidly disappear.
- 31:30Speaker 1: Hills were possibly sometimes dug up to be able to
- 31:33Speaker 1: lay a railway line to a place where people wanted
- 31:35Speaker 1: to cut wood, and for this separate sections of narrow
- 31:38Speaker 1: gage railway were used that could be pushed together. The
- 31:41Speaker 1: working Group or investigative group, however, was convinced that many
- 31:45Speaker 1: of these activities had something to do with dark rituals.
- 31:49Speaker 1: That would also be the reason why Frank van Vloten
- 31:52Speaker 1: had the roundhouse built near the Mithsteebos in the forest.
- 31:55Speaker 1: A crescent shaped rampart which was mistaken for an old
- 31:58Speaker 1: Germanic meeting or. In nineteen thirty eight, the roundhouse was
- 32:02Speaker 1: investigated by the Leyden archaeologist Franz Christian Birch, who later
- 32:06Speaker 1: joined the SS or the Nazis. However, he couldn't find
- 32:10Speaker 1: any trace of Germans or Germanic culture. This bizarre pit
- 32:13Speaker 1: on the property remained on the monument register for a
- 32:16Speaker 1: long time. By in nineteen ninety seven, after some investigation,
- 32:19Speaker 1: it was established that this was just a natural phenomenon
- 32:22Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with an ancient Germanic culture
- 32:25Speaker 1: that was worshiping something This area had come to be,
- 32:28Speaker 1: how it was completely by nature. Interesting now, in the
- 32:31Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies, investigators discovered a strange trench in the
- 32:36Speaker 1: forest surrounding the roundhouse, almost a mile southeast of the
- 32:39Speaker 1: former home. A well had also been dug nearby, and
- 32:42Speaker 1: it seemed like an attempt had also been made to
- 32:45Speaker 1: dig up a stream or spring to get water flowing
- 32:48Speaker 1: into the area. However, the investigative group had the strong
- 32:51Speaker 1: impression that that excavation was supposed to represent a sixty
- 32:55Speaker 1: meter long not kidding. Later, a depiction of the cern
- 32:59Speaker 1: Abbess jet carved into the chalk Hills of Dorset was
- 33:02Speaker 1: discovered in the Bursches archive. This figure is fifty five
- 33:06Speaker 1: meters long and shows a naked man holding a club
- 33:08Speaker 1: with an erect that's seven meters long. The giant appears
- 33:12Speaker 1: to represent the Greek hero Hercules and is believed by
- 33:15Speaker 1: some to be ancient. However, he was only first described
- 33:18Speaker 1: in sixteen ninety four and may have been intended as
- 33:21Speaker 1: a parody of Oliver Cromwell, whom his enemies mockingly referred
- 33:25Speaker 1: to as England's Hercules. The investigative group preferred to associate
- 33:28Speaker 1: that giant with an ancient fertility cult and assumed that
- 33:32Speaker 1: Bursch had not accidentally kept him on his file in
- 33:34Speaker 1: the mythste So it's weird. The government is claiming that
- 33:38Speaker 1: there was nothing to this ancient kind of ritual ground
- 33:41Speaker 1: that the owners and people who visited the roundhouse, you know,
- 33:44Speaker 1: play stake in. They like to visit that part of
- 33:47Speaker 1: the property. They were making excavations around there. He said
- 33:50Speaker 1: that it was nothing. It was there was nothing to
- 33:52Speaker 1: do with it. It was all just you know, nature,
- 33:54Speaker 1: and these people weren't doing anything weird. But in his
- 33:57Speaker 1: file about that area from the official investigation, they had
- 34:02Speaker 1: that picture of the giant with the huge that looked
- 34:06Speaker 1: a lot like what was found in that area at
- 34:08Speaker 1: the roundhouse. I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
- 34:10Speaker 1: You see, the phallic shaped excavation could be a part
- 34:13Speaker 1: of a larger geoglyph. The most famous one of these
- 34:16Speaker 1: is the nascalones you probably are familiar. However, the group
- 34:20Speaker 1: didn't succeed in recognizing a gigantic image of Woden in
- 34:23Speaker 1: the landscape formed by paths, dikes, ditches, vegetation, et cetera.
- 34:27Speaker 1: And that explained the strange activities that the workers spoke about.
- 34:31Speaker 1: So they did find a geoglyph from above, which is insane.
- 34:35Speaker 1: So the people who built the roundhouse, you know, in
- 34:37Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds nineteen hundreds, those people constructed geoglyphs
- 34:42Speaker 1: of these weird mythological creatures and beings, huge pieces of
- 34:46Speaker 1: artwork that could only be seen from the sky, including
- 34:49Speaker 1: this one of Woden. So is it really far fetched
- 34:51Speaker 1: that they may have tried to construct a geoglyph of
- 34:55Speaker 1: a gigantic erect, a giant with a huge in the
- 34:59Speaker 1: land from an aerial perspective. The location of the roundhouse
- 35:03Speaker 1: and the surrounding property has been compared to the likes
- 35:06Speaker 1: of the eye of Woden. The eye of Woden is
- 35:09Speaker 1: based on a Norse myth in which Odin gave up
- 35:12Speaker 1: his other eye to drink from the source of wisdom,
- 35:14Speaker 1: although the eye in relation to the house is placed
- 35:17Speaker 1: somewhat oddly now, Woden's mustache and beard are formed by
- 35:21Speaker 1: a conifer forest, The driveway to the roundhouse is an eyebrow,
- 35:25Speaker 1: and a cycle path is supposed to represent one of
- 35:27Speaker 1: his legs. The image of Woden looks like a primitive
- 35:30Speaker 1: child's drawing, but it's especially surprising that Woden appears to
- 35:34Speaker 1: have a very small in relation to his body length. Unfortunately,
- 35:38Speaker 1: the investigative group does not show how you can project
- 35:41Speaker 1: Woden onto an old military map. Nothing seems to be correct.
- 35:45Speaker 1: In response to this criticism, an anonymous member of the
- 35:47Speaker 1: investigative group stated on that forum that even his eight
- 35:50Speaker 1: year old nephew had managed to draw Woden onto a
- 35:53Speaker 1: military map after just an hour of trying to do so,
- 35:56Speaker 1: but despite repeated requests, this drawing was never revealed or shown.
- 36:01Speaker 1: When the investigative groups searched the area around the roundhouse
- 36:04Speaker 1: and around that shaped excavation with a metal detector. They
- 36:08Speaker 1: were covered about ten glass honeypots near the pit. The
- 36:11Speaker 1: lids on the honeypots had rusted through, so at that
- 36:14Speaker 1: point they were full of forest soil. Chalkwick, one of
- 36:17Speaker 1: the investigators, then stored them in his garage. Only later
- 36:20Speaker 1: did it occur to them that given their location, they
- 36:23Speaker 1: probably represented drops of sea and might have been filled
- 36:27Speaker 1: with the blood of children or from participants in a ritual.
- 36:31Speaker 1: A business associated of Schalkwick was willing to analyze the
- 36:35Speaker 1: contents in his laboratory. He took those honeypots and he
- 36:38Speaker 1: wanted to see exactly what had been inside of them. Unfortunately,
- 36:41Speaker 1: Schalkwick then went back into his storage and discovered that
- 36:44Speaker 1: those honeypots had been lost. They simply disappeared, and he
- 36:48Speaker 1: didn't know what happened to them. So to some all
- 36:50Speaker 1: of that up, I know, this is kind of a
- 36:51Speaker 1: heavy one. They found that area which seemed to be
- 36:54Speaker 1: a giant that was excavated in the ground. They found
- 36:57Speaker 1: these honeypots around them, which they assume canained you know, materials,
- 37:02Speaker 1: whether you want to call men in blood, like fluids
- 37:04Speaker 1: or whatever, from these rituals. Either all these men that
- 37:08Speaker 1: were these children would then finish in these jars and
- 37:11Speaker 1: bury them to seal whatever magical powers you know, we're
- 37:14Speaker 1: in that. Or they would collect the blood from their
- 37:16Speaker 1: children victims and seal them and place them in the ground.
- 37:19Speaker 1: And there's like this giant geoglyph like the Nascal lines
- 37:23Speaker 1: essentially over the roundhouse area, and it's supposed to be
- 37:27Speaker 1: like of Odin and the eye and everything. So there
- 37:29Speaker 1: was like some magical properties to this property, things that
- 37:33Speaker 1: van Vloten and those people who constructed the roundhouse and
- 37:36Speaker 1: worked the round house had allegedly wanted to build. But
- 37:39Speaker 1: why would they be doing all this stuff, Why would
- 37:41Speaker 1: they be collecting materials like that, why would they be
- 37:44Speaker 1: carving huge into the ground, and why would these allegations
- 37:48Speaker 1: even make sense. Well, we have to talk about the
- 37:51Speaker 1: supposed occult rituals that happened there. The idea that the
- 37:54Speaker 1: roundhouse was in occult center where dark rituals were performed
- 37:59Speaker 1: arose from the influence of Jan Elderman's who died in
- 38:02Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, Johann Montenburg, whose mother allegedly was the
- 38:06Speaker 1: madam at the original and who helped bring those prostitutes
- 38:10Speaker 1: and children out to the roundhouse to be had regular
- 38:13Speaker 1: contact with Jan Eldermans from nineteen seventy eight onwards, and
- 38:17Speaker 1: he also had contact with Hans Schalkwick, who interviewed him
- 38:20Speaker 1: frequently and made use of his knowledge. Now. Jen Elderman's
- 38:24Speaker 1: worked for many years at the Ministry of Justice in
- 38:26Speaker 1: the Netherlands and held a high position there, and in
- 38:29Speaker 1: his spare time he was involved in investigating a cult matters.
- 38:32Speaker 1: When he died. Jan Elderman's's estate showed that he was
- 38:35Speaker 1: particularly interested in magic and was probably also a member
- 38:40Speaker 1: of a society that was actively involved in it. There's
- 38:42Speaker 1: documentation according to the working House Group, that investigative group
- 38:46Speaker 1: that was taking a look at the Roundhouse, which indicates
- 38:49Speaker 1: that in a conversation with Montenburg, Elderman confirmed that quote
- 38:53Speaker 1: at the Roundhouse people practiced a germano Celtic cult in
- 38:57Speaker 1: which took place and children of about ten or twelve
- 39:00Speaker 1: were held against their will end quote. It should be
- 39:03Speaker 1: noted that Jan Eldermans's parents had a holiday home built
- 39:06Speaker 1: in Nonspeed nearby the Roundhouse. In the year nineteen twenty,
- 39:10Speaker 1: when he was there as a youth, he came into
- 39:12Speaker 1: contact with someone who told him a lot about gnomes. Yes, gnomes,
- 39:16Speaker 1: the short mythical creatures. Although Jan Eldermans wasn't convinced of
- 39:20Speaker 1: the existence of gnomes and never saw one himself, He
- 39:23Speaker 1: then began collecting folk tales and testimonies about gnomes from
- 39:26Speaker 1: that time forward, real accounts from real people who claimed
- 39:29Speaker 1: they had seen and encountered these things, stories which depicted
- 39:32Speaker 1: these gnomes as not always being as benign as they
- 39:35Speaker 1: are in children's stories. Jan also knew a lot about
- 39:38Speaker 1: objects and rituals that were needed to attract or ward
- 39:41Speaker 1: off gnomes. Before his death, he went through and destroyed
- 39:44Speaker 1: many of his thousands of pages of notes, images, and
- 39:47Speaker 1: self made drawings from his research. The working group. The
- 39:50Speaker 1: investigative group suspects that Jan wanted to prevent unskilled people
- 39:54Speaker 1: from performing the dangerous occult rituals that he described in
- 39:58Speaker 1: his writings. Approximately tw two thousand, five hundred pages and
- 40:01Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty seven objects were preserved and donated
- 40:05Speaker 1: by his son in law to the Museum of Witchcraft
- 40:07Speaker 1: in Cornwall. This collection shows that Jan Eldermans had a
- 40:11Speaker 1: fascination with the fallis, which could explain why the Working
- 40:14Speaker 1: Group or Investigation Group thought they had discovered a fallus
- 40:18Speaker 1: in the forest around the roundhouse. Jan Eldermans additionally confirmed
- 40:22Speaker 1: that he had visited Frank van Vloten as a young
- 40:24Speaker 1: man and met with him. They had talked about old
- 40:26Speaker 1: Germanic rights and customs, including rituals. Jan Elderman's at the
- 40:31Speaker 1: end of his life claimed that he thought that the
- 40:33Speaker 1: Roundhouse was in a cult building, although according to others,
- 40:37Speaker 1: Frank van Vloten had been inspired by a house he
- 40:39Speaker 1: had seen in Spain. Jan Eldermans had heard that there
- 40:42Speaker 1: was a Pan Germanic movement in Germany that assumed that
- 40:45Speaker 1: the famous Battle of Veris that took place in nine
- 40:48Speaker 1: a d hadn't taken place in the Tudoburg forest, but
- 40:51Speaker 1: near the misty on the Vlou, in the area of
- 40:53Speaker 1: the roundhouse. To give you some contexts, during that battle,
- 40:57Speaker 1: German soldiers hacked thousands of Roman soldiers to pieces. It
- 41:01Speaker 1: was an absolutely gruesome, bloody mess, and some of these
- 41:04Speaker 1: soldiers were sacrificed to Wodan, the mythical god. And remember
- 41:08Speaker 1: Wodan is supposedly the thing that is depicted in the
- 41:12Speaker 1: glyph that's on the grounds of the roundhouse. So all
- 41:15Speaker 1: these stories are connecting. They believe that this battle where
- 41:18Speaker 1: thousands of men were slaughtered and sacrificed to Wodan. Took
- 41:21Speaker 1: place in near the Roundhouse. And then there's this glyph
- 41:24Speaker 1: that is appearing on the Roundhouse property that looks exactly
- 41:28Speaker 1: like Wodan. And apparently Frank van Vloten had conversations with
- 41:32Speaker 1: this guy when he was younger about this Germanic movement
- 41:35Speaker 1: and how there was like German influence and blah blah blah,
- 41:38Speaker 1: and these were German soldiers that slaughtered these people. And
- 41:41Speaker 1: then there's the German you know thing, and that German
- 41:44Speaker 1: supposed ritual grounds where they uncovered those honeypots. There's just
- 41:47Speaker 1: so much here. I'm sorry if this is a little confusing.
- 41:50Speaker 1: It's it's really really bizarre. It's really bizarre stuff. And
- 41:53Speaker 1: in addition, going with this German concept, there was also
- 41:56Speaker 1: a Germanic holy line running through the area right near
- 42:00Speaker 1: the roundhouse, comparable to a lay line. If you know
- 42:03Speaker 1: what a lay line is, it's essentially like a line
- 42:06Speaker 1: of energy that runs across the world. And there are
- 42:08Speaker 1: a lot of areas where these lay lines intersect, where
- 42:11Speaker 1: there are incredibly haunted locations paranormal wise, So a Germanic
- 42:15Speaker 1: holy line is essentially like a lay line that comes
- 42:18Speaker 1: from mystical texts, and there was a lay line going
- 42:20Speaker 1: right through the Roundhouse property, and that's not by chance.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Jan Elderman's also found that it was not implausible that
- 42:27Speaker 1: Frank van Vloten had built his house the Roundhouse, on
- 42:30Speaker 1: behalf of an occult Germanic society. The location of the
- 42:34Speaker 1: roundhouse was very suitable for this Germanic society's rituals. According
- 42:38Speaker 1: to the investigation group, Montenberg's birthplace was also on top
- 42:42Speaker 1: of the holy line. He was born directly on top
- 42:45Speaker 1: of the line. This could explain why his mother became
- 42:47Speaker 1: involved in these Germanic rituals, perhaps as a high priestess. Now,
- 42:51Speaker 1: when this investigative group confronted Montenberg with all this evidence,
- 42:55Speaker 1: he blushed and refused to talk to them, which the
- 42:58Speaker 1: working group interpreted as being on the right track. It's
- 43:01Speaker 1: almost like they had called him out right to his face,
- 43:03Speaker 1: and he was almost a little bit scared or nervous
- 43:05Speaker 1: about what they might call him out on. Next. They
- 43:08Speaker 1: were getting deeper and deeper into the truth behind the Roundhouse,
- 43:11Speaker 1: and he didn't really like it anymore. Now, in Shawkwick's book,
- 43:14Speaker 1: there's an eyewitness account of a ritual that's said to
- 43:17Speaker 1: have taken place at a small lake near the excavation
- 43:21Speaker 1: site during the First World War. According to the book,
- 43:23Speaker 1: this eyewitness account was written down by a painter from
- 43:26Speaker 1: nearby Nunspeed, who heard about it from somebody else. The
- 43:29Speaker 1: informant saw a number of young girls on the shore
- 43:32Speaker 1: in the evening, standing in a small semi circle with
- 43:35Speaker 1: kerosene lamps. In front of them stood a sturdy woman
- 43:38Speaker 1: that looked to be around forty years old. All the
- 43:41Speaker 1: girls and the woman raised their right hand with two
- 43:43Speaker 1: fingers up. It looked like an oath taking, and there
- 43:46Speaker 1: was also eerie singing in the background. Suddenly, a number
- 43:49Speaker 1: of men walked up to the girls from the forest.
- 43:51Speaker 1: The eyewitness was shocked and ran away as quickly as possible.
- 43:55Speaker 1: The investigative group also reported that the participants were imitators
- 43:59Speaker 1: of J. J. Bacolfius theory of civilization, which consists of
- 44:03Speaker 1: the following information. In phase one of this theory, members
- 44:07Speaker 1: came strongly to the practices of what also happened on
- 44:09Speaker 1: Epstein Island and what the Cosmikers sought with their worship
- 44:12Speaker 1: of the eros. A great orgy take everything you can
- 44:16Speaker 1: of cross border behavior quote. The first was that of
- 44:19Speaker 1: haterism or aphroditism, a stage of sexual promiscuity and social
- 44:23Speaker 1: anarchy very close to the original state of nature. During
- 44:26Speaker 1: this stage, humans lived in swamps without any legal and
- 44:29Speaker 1: ethical obligation, and women suffered complete domination by every male
- 44:33Speaker 1: component of the hoard end quote. Those who want to
- 44:36Speaker 1: live closer to nature loose, uninhibited by moral laws. In
- 44:40Speaker 1: response to this, the ginocracy would have arisen, a matriarchate
- 44:44Speaker 1: with a lunar cult that warships demonter succeeded by Adonian
- 44:48Speaker 1: era ecstasy, and then the patriarchate. Bachafin sees that the
- 44:51Speaker 1: Apollnic Greek sun god patriarchate elaborated in the Greco Roman
- 44:56Speaker 1: legislation and then Christianity the victory of spirit over matter,
- 44:59Speaker 1: of culture over nature, of reason over instinct, but also
- 45:03Speaker 1: of arbitrary power over freedom, or social hierarchy over communal unity,
- 45:07Speaker 1: or violence over peace. So it's basically explaining that the
- 45:11Speaker 1: people who were into this theory, I know that that
- 45:13Speaker 1: was a lot once again, but they were into an
- 45:15Speaker 1: almost anarchistic way of life, total uninhibited sex and dominance
- 45:20Speaker 1: and hedonism and you know, control and power, and they
- 45:24Speaker 1: believed that, some of them believed that living life like that,
- 45:27Speaker 1: taking what you want when you wanted, doing whatever to anybody,
- 45:30Speaker 1: to get power and live as you know, freely as possible,
- 45:34Speaker 1: that's what they believed in. And so obviously going out
- 45:37Speaker 1: to the roundhouse in the area that's completely in the
- 45:40Speaker 1: middle of nowhere that's guarded by lots of armed people
- 45:43Speaker 1: and doing rituals like this by the river or the lake,
- 45:46Speaker 1: you know, essentially being able to live life like this,
- 45:48Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. In addition, Frank van Vloten,
- 45:51Speaker 1: the man who built the roundhouse, all of his sisters
- 45:54Speaker 1: all married important artists from the Tack Tigers, a group
- 45:57Speaker 1: of individuals that were somewhat infamous include psychiatrist Frederick van Eeden,
- 46:02Speaker 1: who founded the Walden Commune, and Albert Verwuey. There was
- 46:05Speaker 1: also a man in this group named Lewis Coopers, who
- 46:07Speaker 1: was infamous for his published seance book Distilled croct But
- 46:12Speaker 1: that last connection between Frank van Vloten and the man
- 46:15Speaker 1: Albert verwe is one of the most interesting in this
- 46:17Speaker 1: entire story. As already described in the story in England
- 46:21Speaker 1: about the Avalonians, and the revival of Glastonbury. Spiritism lived
- 46:25Speaker 1: strongly at the end of the nineteenth century, and with
- 46:28Speaker 1: it also the interest in pre Christian religions kind of
- 46:31Speaker 1: like paganism, with the founder of theosophy Madame Blavatsky as
- 46:35Speaker 1: the Spiritist pivot, and through this movement the Aryan symbol
- 46:38Speaker 1: the swastika was brought within the occult groups of that time.
- 46:41Speaker 1: A group that carried that logo long before the Nazis
- 46:44Speaker 1: were the Cosmicker from Schwabing or southern Germany, where in
- 46:48Speaker 1: addition to biocentric philosopher Ludwig Kleggs, also Albert Verwey was
- 46:53Speaker 1: affiliated the husband of Frank van Vloten's sister, and then
- 46:56Speaker 1: comes the connection. Ludwig Kleggs is the writer in nineteen
- 47:00Speaker 1: thirteen of the founding manifesto of the German Greens mens Unert.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Author David Cronin, in a twenty twenty four article by
- 47:08Speaker 1: the Electronica into Fata, points out that the German Greens
- 47:12Speaker 1: or the German Green Party had a strong connection to
- 47:14Speaker 1: the beliefs of the Nazi Party, citing the commonality between
- 47:18Speaker 1: both strong attachment to nature, blood and soul and men
- 47:21Speaker 1: in Earth or the manifesto mentioned above. So essentially through marriage,
- 47:26Speaker 1: Frank van Vloten was associated with an infamous almost I
- 47:30Speaker 1: don't know if you want to call him a sorcerer
- 47:32Speaker 1: or what, but a guy that was heavily involved with
- 47:34Speaker 1: a German ritualistic occult group. And that's what the crux
- 47:39Speaker 1: of all these theories is about. Is this Germanic sort
- 47:42Speaker 1: of ritual and warship that took place on the Roundhouse property,
- 47:46Speaker 1: the worshiping of children to appease these gods and to
- 47:49Speaker 1: gain power, living hedonistic lifestyles and you know, and taking
- 47:53Speaker 1: whoever you wanted, men, women, children. The geoglyphs that were
- 47:57Speaker 1: carved into the ground that had supposed you know, relate
- 48:00Speaker 1: to famous German massacres that took place supposedly in the area.
- 48:04Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many connections here. And then you
- 48:06Speaker 1: have all the eyewitnesses people from the town who said that, oh,
- 48:09Speaker 1: you know, my sister went to go work at the
- 48:12Speaker 1: out there and she never returned. You have the eyewitnesses
- 48:15Speaker 1: people that supposedly visited there and saw all these children
- 48:18Speaker 1: that were or I don't even know exactly what had
- 48:21Speaker 1: been done to them, but they were called dolls because
- 48:24Speaker 1: they didn't move, they didn't talk, they were just sitting
- 48:26Speaker 1: there basically waiting to be used time and time again.
- 48:30Speaker 1: All the materials that were brought out to the roundhouse
- 48:32Speaker 1: that were never explained what they did with all of them.
- 48:34Speaker 1: All the tunnels and passages that even to this day
- 48:37Speaker 1: people have discovered that exist in the roundhouse area. Weird, right,
- 48:41Speaker 1: But to be fair, we have to point out a
- 48:43Speaker 1: couple of the inconsistencies that people discuss when it comes
- 48:46Speaker 1: to the story. Now, if you'll remember, the first article
- 48:49Speaker 1: that was published that really broke the story was that
- 48:51Speaker 1: the article published by the man with the last name Scepter.
- 48:54Speaker 1: His article, obviously, when it was published, was heavily criticized,
- 48:57Speaker 1: as these articles always are. Any blowing article or a
- 49:01Speaker 1: program is going to be criticized by those in power,
- 49:04Speaker 1: especially those you know in the press or in the
- 49:06Speaker 1: political world. And people claim that, yeah, the rich people
- 49:09Speaker 1: did get off on the wrong side of the train
- 49:11Speaker 1: so that they wouldn't be seen, But they did so
- 49:13Speaker 1: because they didn't want to walk around the entire train.
- 49:16Speaker 1: They wanted to just get off on the correct side
- 49:18Speaker 1: so they could leave, which I guess I mean you
- 49:20Speaker 1: could make the argument, but that explanation completely discounts all
- 49:24Speaker 1: the stories and eyewitnesses and people who actually brought these
- 49:27Speaker 1: men in this dark you know cart, not only to
- 49:30Speaker 1: the or the kids were being held hostage, but also
- 49:33Speaker 1: out to the roundhouse. They also claimed that there were
- 49:35Speaker 1: Belgian prostitutes in the area during the war, but they
- 49:38Speaker 1: said that they were in the non speed refugee camp,
- 49:41Speaker 1: not in that, which again, how do you know that
- 49:44Speaker 1: it just ignores all the eyewitnesses and people who've testified
- 49:47Speaker 1: about this stuff. Sceptor. The author of that article also
- 49:50Speaker 1: said that after the article was published, his own mother
- 49:53Speaker 1: received death threats because her address was published at the
- 49:56Speaker 1: bottom of the article, and he also claimed that people
- 49:58Speaker 1: allegedly tried to kill him by cutting the brake lines
- 50:01Speaker 1: of his car. He then wrote a second article trying
- 50:03Speaker 1: to appease people, correcting some of his so called mistakes,
- 50:06Speaker 1: but the article was never published and the anger from
- 50:09Speaker 1: locals and people in the higher up of the government
- 50:12Speaker 1: got so strong against him that he actually had to
- 50:15Speaker 1: flee to Canada to find safety. People were threatening his
- 50:18Speaker 1: life every single day for exposing this truth. However, Schalkwick,
- 50:22Speaker 1: that investigator who previously worked at a bank told a
- 50:25Speaker 1: journalist from newspaper dis Stentor that there were many untruths
- 50:29Speaker 1: circulating about the Roundhouse. He said there's no net work.
- 50:33Speaker 1: He said that the women involved were actually foreign prostitutes.
- 50:37Speaker 1: He also claimed that Frank van Vloten had never rode
- 50:40Speaker 1: with a naked girl on his horse and that no
- 50:42Speaker 1: human remains had ever been dug up at the roundhouse.
- 50:45Speaker 1: He said there was no traces of an underground tunnel
- 50:47Speaker 1: system in the forest, and he also said that he
- 50:49Speaker 1: didn't believe that scepter that author had been threatened. Additionally,
- 50:53Speaker 1: there were several misreports from Schalkwick and his working group,
- 50:57Speaker 1: along with a lack of evidence regarding the information they
- 50:59Speaker 1: claimed was solid. According to a twenty thirteen article by
- 51:02Speaker 1: Agnes Tibett, when asked about the occult group that was
- 51:05Speaker 1: active at the Roundhouse, Schalkwick and his work group were
- 51:08Speaker 1: unable to answer. The question was asked at a presentation
- 51:11Speaker 1: of Schalkwick's book by none other than Theo Pagemans, who
- 51:15Speaker 1: was a historian who specialized in occult societies. After being
- 51:18Speaker 1: asked the question, almost no information at the time about
- 51:21Speaker 1: the rituals was provided. But there's also one interesting piece
- 51:25Speaker 1: of information here that led that investigative group to believe
- 51:29Speaker 1: that there were indeed rituals that happened on the Roundhouse property,
- 51:33Speaker 1: and the evidence that they discovered that led them to
- 51:35Speaker 1: believe that is pretty interesting. This is a quote that
- 51:38Speaker 1: they discovered somewhere along their investigation. It said the dark
- 51:41Speaker 1: forces were called upon to bring about the German victory
- 51:44Speaker 1: at the front in France. This is referring to World
- 51:47Speaker 1: War One. However, when the German armies were finally defeated
- 51:50Speaker 1: in November nineteen eighteen, it was clear that the experiments
- 51:54Speaker 1: at the Occult testing ground in none Speed had failed
- 51:57Speaker 1: and they were therefore stopped. End quote. So they're basically
- 52:00Speaker 1: saying that some of these rituals, if not all of them,
- 52:03Speaker 1: that were happening at the Roundhouse were supposedly being done
- 52:06Speaker 1: to bring forth a German victory in World War One.
- 52:10Speaker 1: They were these children and committing these atrocities against kids,
- 52:14Speaker 1: you know, having with miners and doing all of these
- 52:17Speaker 1: things out there as a part of some mass ritual
- 52:20Speaker 1: at a you know, experimentation ground to try bring about
- 52:23Speaker 1: a German victory in World War One. But when they
- 52:26Speaker 1: saw that Germany lost the war, they gave up on
- 52:28Speaker 1: the rituals and tried to conceal all the evidence that
- 52:31Speaker 1: they had ever happened in the first place. And this
- 52:33Speaker 1: is interesting. You remember that forum where they had seventy
- 52:36Speaker 1: five thousand comments and people talking about what they had
- 52:38Speaker 1: heard about the Roundhouse and the rituals that happened there. Well,
- 52:41Speaker 1: one interesting story came forward about that psychic that I
- 52:44Speaker 1: discussed before, named Delius Pitt, who went into a trance
- 52:48Speaker 1: at the lake on the Roundhouse property in March nineteen eighty.
- 52:51Speaker 1: Delias had been brought out to the lake by investigators.
- 52:54Speaker 1: He went into this trance, and this was before a
- 52:56Speaker 1: lot of this knowledge was even known or understood. But
- 52:58Speaker 1: the psychic during the trance appeared to have seen almost
- 53:02Speaker 1: exactly the same thing that the witness saw in the book.
- 53:05Speaker 1: The psychic was standing by the lake, this is before
- 53:08Speaker 1: the eyewitness's account had been gathered and fully published, and
- 53:11Speaker 1: he claimed that he saw a group of young girls,
- 53:13Speaker 1: you know, holding their arms up, men surrounding them. He
- 53:16Speaker 1: saw essentially what the eyewitness would later go on to
- 53:19Speaker 1: say that he had seen, but his account wasn't published,
- 53:22Speaker 1: So there's no way that either of them if you
- 53:24Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, knew what the other one had said,
- 53:26Speaker 1: like the psychic's report wasn't published, and the painter who
- 53:30Speaker 1: actually physically claimed he saw this stuff happen, his account
- 53:33Speaker 1: hadn't been published either, So they were corroborating each other
- 53:36Speaker 1: in these weird psychic ways. And according to people who
- 53:39Speaker 1: knew members that were in that investigative group that were
- 53:42Speaker 1: taking a look at the roundhouse, allegations that psychic played
- 53:45Speaker 1: an important role. When the investigation had stalled in nineteen eighty,
- 53:49Speaker 1: they consulted this psychic and he frequently told them where
- 53:52Speaker 1: they should look next, where new information could be found,
- 53:55Speaker 1: and he could tell them stories about the house that
- 53:57Speaker 1: nobody had ever revealed before. And oftentimes when they followed
- 54:00Speaker 1: up on these leads from the psychic, they would indeed
- 54:02Speaker 1: find information or these stories that he talked about, you know,
- 54:06Speaker 1: years before they would eventually talk to a witness who
- 54:08Speaker 1: had confirmed that that exact thing had happened. The psychic
- 54:11Speaker 1: also claimed that he knew when a witness had not
- 54:13Speaker 1: revealed his true colors and had to be questioned again,
- 54:16Speaker 1: So this psychic would be able to tell when people
- 54:19Speaker 1: were lying to the investigators, and he would tell them,
- 54:21Speaker 1: you should go re ask this person the same questions
- 54:24Speaker 1: and demand that they tell you the truth. Then the
- 54:26Speaker 1: group would go reinvestigate, reinterview the same person and tell
- 54:30Speaker 1: them that they knew they were lying, and they'd tell
- 54:32Speaker 1: them the truth. Really weird stuff. However, the book that
- 54:34Speaker 1: was published mentions nothing about the psychic at all. This
- 54:38Speaker 1: is just all information gathered from other reports. It's really weird,
- 54:41Speaker 1: and the role of Prince Hendrick, who was alleged to
- 54:44Speaker 1: have participated in the things that happened there, also remains unclear.
- 54:48Speaker 1: The only evidence is a virtually illegible note that was
- 54:51Speaker 1: found with the notes from the grandfather of a woman
- 54:53Speaker 1: who had been contacted in two thousand and six. Montenberg
- 54:56Speaker 1: one of the original guys that had been talking about
- 54:59Speaker 1: all this, and if you or remember, Mottenberg's mother was
- 55:01Speaker 1: supposedly the one helping procure prostitutes and children for ritual.
- 55:06Speaker 1: He had already given a vague indication in this direction
- 55:09Speaker 1: a long time ago, indicating that a prince had been
- 55:12Speaker 1: involved with what was happening at the Roundhouse. The grandfather
- 55:15Speaker 1: had recorded a conversation with a certain person named h
- 55:18Speaker 1: who reported on a murderous ritual. Now, for some reason,
- 55:22Speaker 1: the investigative group has still to this day not talked
- 55:25Speaker 1: about this ritual in detail. They haven't revealed what the
- 55:28Speaker 1: and the ritual allegedly entailed, but they have stated publicly
- 55:32Speaker 1: that they wonder if the h on that note that
- 55:35Speaker 1: talks about this murder references Prince Hendrick or Highness. Could
- 55:39Speaker 1: the Prince have been involved in a ritual for some
- 55:42Speaker 1: sort of security reasons. Could he have wanted to attend
- 55:45Speaker 1: a ritual at the Roundhouse because he thought it could
- 55:48Speaker 1: help them win a war or help him gain more power?
- 55:51Speaker 1: Or was the Prince one of the members of the
- 55:54Speaker 1: ring that was operating supposedly at the Roundhouse, or if
- 55:57Speaker 1: you'll remember, towards the beginning of this episode, we talked
- 55:59Speaker 1: about how allegedly all the powerful men who were there
- 56:02Speaker 1: at the Roundhouse would go out for a nightly ritual
- 56:05Speaker 1: where the one man would do something to a child
- 56:08Speaker 1: or a woman in front of the other men, and
- 56:10Speaker 1: that would be some sort of an insurance, you know, policy,
- 56:13Speaker 1: to make sure that no one ever rat it. Could
- 56:15Speaker 1: the Prince have taken part in that? Could he have
- 56:17Speaker 1: done something to a child in front of this group
- 56:19Speaker 1: of other powerful men, and that's why the truth about
- 56:22Speaker 1: him was never revealed, or he never revealed any truth
- 56:25Speaker 1: because he's you know, essentially blackmailed or compromised. I don't
- 56:28Speaker 1: know at the end of the day. Even though this
- 56:30Speaker 1: story has been debated very very widely in the Netherlands
- 56:34Speaker 1: and some people believe that it's true, others don't. I
- 56:38Speaker 1: genuinely am from the camp obviously because I host the
- 56:41Speaker 1: show that a story cannot grow and proliferate if there's
- 56:46Speaker 1: no truth to it at all, Like where would all
- 56:49Speaker 1: these allegations and rumors come from. And it's it's always
- 56:52Speaker 1: so easy to write something off as being so fantastic
- 56:55Speaker 1: or unbelievable that there's no way it could be true.
- 56:58Speaker 1: But there's always truth to these stories. I mean, think
- 57:01Speaker 1: about all the eyewitnesses that I just went into detail
- 57:04Speaker 1: with you, About the people who claimed to have visited
- 57:07Speaker 1: the roundhouse, who saw the children dressed as dolls and
- 57:11Speaker 1: wearing these weird things not moving, the eyewitnesses who saw
- 57:14Speaker 1: rituals taking place on the lake. The psychics, whether you
- 57:17Speaker 1: believe in psychics or not, but the psychics who saw
- 57:20Speaker 1: things and received messages about things that ended up, you know,
- 57:24Speaker 1: being alleged later on, and all the glyphs that were seen,
- 57:29Speaker 1: you know, on the property, the supposed gigantic so those excavated,
- 57:33Speaker 1: all the honeypots and all those weird items and things
- 57:36Speaker 1: that were discovered buried in the ground, The allegations of
- 57:41Speaker 1: children being forced to work in these and never being
- 57:44Speaker 1: allowed to leave, the whispers in the local town about
- 57:47Speaker 1: the powerful men that would take the hidden tram to
- 57:49Speaker 1: the roundhouse or to other areas. I mean, there's just
- 57:52Speaker 1: there's so much information here that, as I always say
- 57:56Speaker 1: on the show, when there's smoke, there's usually fire, and
- 57:59Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just crazy to me. It's crazy
- 58:02Speaker 1: to me that things like this could have happened. Usually
- 58:04Speaker 1: we hear stories about rings like this that were in
- 58:06Speaker 1: operation in the you know, nineteen seventies, eighties, and nineties,
- 58:10Speaker 1: but more of a historical ring like this back in
- 58:13Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds. Is crazy to think about that
- 58:16Speaker 1: there is probably so much history like this around the world,
- 58:20Speaker 1: in every single country that was just completely covered up
- 58:23Speaker 1: and will remain covered up because it's just so unbelievable.
- 58:27Speaker 1: And back then, I mean, if you didn't keep a
- 58:29Speaker 1: record of something who's going to remember it or talk
- 58:31Speaker 1: about it. If Epstein, a person like Epstein who was children,
- 58:35Speaker 1: happened in nineteen ten, they easily could have every single
- 58:39Speaker 1: person involved, and they easily could have gotten away with
- 58:42Speaker 1: burning every file. It was before investigative authorities and investigative
- 58:46Speaker 1: bodies and agencies were even you know a thing, so
- 58:49Speaker 1: there was no database of information. There was no place
- 58:52Speaker 1: to store information about stuff like this. But as always,
- 58:56Speaker 1: let me know what your thoughts are about this story
- 58:58Speaker 1: and the comments. This was a pretty crazy one and
- 59:01Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe that there's some definite strangeness
- 59:04Speaker 1: and shady that happen at the Roundhouse. What about you, guys,
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- 59:25Speaker 1: and it's also great to hear from everybody. But until
- 59:28Speaker 1: next Wednesday, you guys, have a great rest of your week.
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