Latest / Big Swing Podcast / Big Swing: Taking Bold Steps in Business and Life | Episode 1
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- Funk Futures Media (00:01.418) Okay, kicking things off with big swing podcast episode number one. Corey Scott (00:11.08) Numero uno. Funk Futures Media (00:12.878) Long time, long tenured podcaster, Jeremy Funken, and not a rookie per se, but a little bit earlier to the podcast game. Mr. Corey Scott, my partner here. What do you think, Corey? You excited about this? We're going to have some fun with this big swing podcast. Corey Scott (00:30.14) Man, I'm super stoked about this. Like we've talked about this for a while, for years. You know, I came on a couple of times to What the Funk and Trippin' Over the Barrel. So I've done the podcast several times, right? And, you know, it was just always a conversation you and I have had and, you know, just when the timing was right and when did it make sense, right? And I think just lately it started making more sense. So coming into the new year, I was super pumped just to even add, you know, to what I do. Right. It's I've been in a, you know, an attendee on different podcasts, but hosting is obviously different and thinking about it and hey, it's a fun challenge with it. But getting to do it with you, man, like talking about this the way we have. mean, I'm excited and just the way we're kind of thinking about doing the podcast. Right. I think it's going to be super cool. So I'm just glad to be alongside with it, man. Really kind of get my feet wet this year doing the podcast and man, let's just let's get it going. I'm pumped. Funk Futures Media (01:27.426) Yeah, and it aligns well with kind of your entrepreneurial journey, which you and I have talked about. You know, the concept I think here with Big Swing is a little bit of risk taking, right? Whether it be career related, life related. you know, sports book related. think we're going to get into some of that fun stuff, too. think both of us occasionally like to play some bets or our daily fantasy sports. And I think that'll be an element here. I just want to, you know, let our personalities shine through, really, truly be our authentic selves and have fun. Obviously, we're going to have guests because you and I can only talk for so much. And I think people only want to listen to you and I babble about so much. So you know, podcast guests will be. You know a core component to what we do as we move forward But I wanted to talk a little bit about my podcasting journey for those who don't know I would guess that a lot of the people that who are listening now for the first time May not know my background But certainly many are going to be subscribers of tripping over the barrel for the first hundred two episodes and then what the funk for another who knows 85 but You know my good friend Tim Loser who's sort of everybody's friend Right. He was he was just an awesome guy. He and I decided to do a podcast tripping over the barrel on the digital wildcatters platform. Now collide back in 2020 during covid just a much different time. Right. How do you get in front of people? How do you get your personal brand out there? How do you get your company brand out there? Tim was working for OVS Group. I was working for W Energy Software. I transitioned to starting my own firm, which I think tied in nicely to the brand building I was doing with the Tripping Over the Barrel. But it was really focused on the personalities of the oil and gas industry. After Tim, sadly passed away in 2022, I took a little bit of a break, came back, kind of repurposed as a solo pod and sort of had a similar format, just doing it myself versus doing it with a partner, which... Funk Futures Media (03:46.178) It's a little bit tougher, right? Like certainly I was able and equipped to do it, but nobody could replace him, right? Nobody could sit in his seat. and that's still sort of the case. No, no offense to you. I think, you know, I, I was ready for, for the energy of another person being the podcast cohost. You and I are, are super tight. You know, I've always referred to you, as one of my closest friends, one of my best friends in the industry and in life. So. I'm super excited, kind of, you know, strapped into the rejuvenation machine with having you on this podcast. I think your energy is palpable around this. This is new, right? I step behind the mic. There's no nerves. There's no angst. But, know, you're just now in the big leagues, right? You're in like your third or fourth game. It's time for you to step into the plate, get thrown a couple curveballs, see how you handle it. Yeah, I do want to emphasize the fact that this will be a little bit different. And I was trying to do that with What the Funk a little bit too, even just the name implies like, all right, let's do different stuff. I some college roommates come on the podcast. had people that had nothing to do with oil and gas in the podcast. I think we're going to have quite a variety of this. And Corey, maybe you want to talk about sort of the approach that we're going to take with with the series approach. Which I really like and you brought up as kind of an idea But why don't you talk a little bit about how we're gonna approach the podcast in blocks or series Corey Scott (05:14.834) Yeah, I think this is giving us a chance just to kind of broaden, you know, our scope to a lot of folks, right? Like when we've talked originally, who do we want the audience to be? How do we want to go about this? You've obviously for several years been focused just on oil and gas and bringing on different folks and then trying to spin it. Right. So, you know, what we wanted to do is have a podcast that allows us to be authentic in who we are. Right. while also bringing on guests that can just be informative, share their stories. You know, and every listener that comes on here can say, look, like I can listen to this intently. Or you know what? I just want to throw the headphones on while I'm doing some stuff around the house, right? I get, you know, just good banter with Jeremy and Corey. But the guests they have on there, right? It's it's up my alley or if you know, I'm curious how other people are doing things or what stories or learnings and findings that they have. Right. So we really kind of want to just span across a lot. Right. Whether it's software side, go to market side. Right. We're definitely going to stay true to oil and gas because that's where we've been. So we're definitely have different types of series within. But I think there's so many. Funk Futures Media (06:25.998) course. Corey Scott (06:30.942) you know, outside just the gas companies themselves, right? There's such communities of vendors and other, you know, folks that are making an impact in what they do. And I think what they do, a lot of people can relate to. So we just want to, you know, broaden that scope and bring on a lot of different folks with it as well. So we're going to chop it up into series. I'm sure Jeremy, as we get into this too, right? We want to hear from all the listeners out there that says, Hey, like, I like how you did this. It'd be great if you'll had a series on this or that, right? And start taking some feedback, right? Cause I think that's what's going to matter to them and what really resonates. But we're going to break it up into chunks and have some series around it. I think people are going to like it. I think that's resonated with you and I as we've listened to other podcasts and kind of just give it a different flavor every so often. Funk Futures Media (07:17.314) Yeah, we've talked about marketing, I think. And marketing can mean a lot of things. Certainly, you think about content marketing, content creation, product marketing. But then there's also oil and gas marketing, which is the selling of commodities. So we can put lots of different spin on it. If we have a production series, that production could be in the media space. Somebody who actually like films, TV shows, and produces movies. Corey Scott (07:33.578) Very different. Funk Futures Media (07:46.56) or it could be oil and gas production, right? Making sure that your wells are flowing smoothly. And I think we'll have a lot of fun with that, just sort of with the play on words that we're able to take. And I think we'll have compelling guests as such, right? I think that will lead us down a path of, you know, Corey Scott (08:03.839) Yeah. Funk Futures Media (08:08.462) Obviously, we'll have some of our friends on and people that we ham and egg with and that we're comfortable with, but even some folks who we've respected and seen as experts, like say in the private equity world, the venture capital world, having folks come on and talk about what their investment thesis may look like and get three or four different flavors of that and do that in a series that the listener can sit down and sort of binge with. All right. This is going to be I'm into the finance side. I'm into private equity. I'm a 20, 20 year old. know, student at UT or the University of Colorado and I want to get into this. How can I learn something from this and the same thing for the 30 year career vet with tons of experience. think there's going to be a little bit of something for everyone. So I'm pumped about that. I'm also pumped about the fact that the Patriots are going to the Super Bowl, right? Yeah. Corey Scott (09:01.327) Like, I don't I won't speak for everybody, but as you know, let's let's get out of there. I'm from Dallas. I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm a Dallas fan. But look, I'm a real fan and under spin sports. My expectations are always set every year correctly. But from the outside of a Patriots, right, like it's like you guys had your time with Brady. And so I feel like it's just so soon on how it's already coming back and you're there. I mean, Funk Futures Media (09:09.006) you Funk Futures Media (09:27.768) Yeah. Corey Scott (09:30.442) But what Vrabel's doing, Drake, May, like obviously you got a special team, right? There's something there quickly gelled and somehow you guys are back. Somehow you're back. I don't know. Funk Futures Media (09:35.896) Yeah. Funk Futures Media (09:40.174) It feels, yeah, it feels different. I'm going to have to pull up the text that you sent me on Sunday because it was like the most backhanded congratulations sort of, but that's okay. know, football is one of those sports. I've always said this about sports fandom in general. Like I think in baseball, in basketball, in hockey, like you can have a second favorite team that doesn't exist in football. Like you have one team and you pretty much hate every other team. Corey Scott (10:00.839) Funk Futures Media (10:09.506) You might like players, like I think this next generation, like our sons, right, who are my son, who's similar in age, I think, to your younger son. Like I think they're for players more. think the way that the branding has happened, like maybe they won't grow up with the same extreme, like local team loyalty or single team loyalty that we had, they'll root for players more. But for us, like the way that we grew up, we were limited by what we could see on TV, right? And then maybe we watched like Tom Jackson and, Chris Berman and all those guys do their highlights, which was awesome. Right? Right. You couldn't watch all the games, right? So you had to pick a team. And if your local team stunk, then maybe you pick one other team and that's who you stuck with. As far as it goes with the Patriots, yeah, there's still this sort of, it's been interesting and unsurprising for me to... Corey Scott (10:43.818) Yeah, there was no red zone. Funk Futures Media (11:05.282) to see what sort of the backlash has been because there was so much hatred, right? There was so much vitriol, I think, from a national perspective on just the continuous success that they had for so long. And they were bad. Then they just immediately got bad and Brady Leaves and Belichick is there and then owners meddling and they're just sort of every other team. there was probably a point where people really sort of enjoyed it and felt like, all right, yeah, you guys deserve this. Welcome to what it's like for everybody else. And the general sentiment is you didn't really suck for long enough to be back. You know what I mean? It was just a little too quick. I even read something the other day that cracked me up. That was like, the Patriots never went away. The chiefs just sort of took their spot for like six years and now the Patriots are back. So they were just holding a place for us and to be annoying and now we're the annoying team again. So it is a different field though. The expectations are different being an underdog. Corey Scott (11:40.682) Yeah. Corey Scott (11:52.635) Hahaha. Funk Futures Media (12:00.47) in the Super Bowl, you know, I think expectations were lowered. I do think there's a sense of like happy to be there, at least from my perspective as a fan. I don't feel the same level of stress or angst or pressure going into this game. If they lose, I mean, as crazy as it sounds, like it was a great season. If they win, it's like bonus, right? And that's a new approach for me, because in the Brady era, there was one acceptable outcome. And now we're just learning sort of how to root or reroute for this particular team. But anyways, this isn't a Patriots podcast. I'm just geeked up about it right now. You know that. Corey Scott (12:34.152) It's hard to get you off of it, but hey, have your moment. won't, I won't tell you to cut it short. Man's credo incredible what they're doing. So, but we go on. Funk Futures Media (12:39.17) Thanks And I did go to the game. Yeah. And I did go to the game on Sunday with the Patriots here in Denver, had great seats, took my oldest daughter, like a fun girl, dad bonding experience, freezing out in the cold. Like that was fun. Like definitely a core memory, a life memory that I'll always have with my daughter. And that's something that I think you can get through through sports in a very unique way. And both you and I know that. Back to big swing and actually taking big swings, right? Corey Scott (12:45.13) I was in your backyard! Funk Futures Media (13:12.224) career wise, like I'll talk about myself and then I really want to flip it to you because I think you're you're sort of in the midst of this really big swing. I don't know, man, I always always felt like I had an ownership mindset when I was an employee. I know that you did as well. Certainly during the Red Dock days, you actually had some equity in the company. I didn't always have equity in the companies that I'd worked for. But I think it's a mindset more than actual like signing a piece of paper. I do you operate in a way that you treat yourself as an owner of the company, put the company first above your own personal interests for the short and long term success of the organization. And sometimes that can hurt you, believe it or not, in certain situations. It's the people that have sharp elbows and really look out for themselves, maybe the ones that get the longer and best benefit in certain types of organizations. That was just never me. So I always felt like I fit you know, as an athlete, as a class president, as a leader, you know, fraternity vice president, all these things, I felt like I was always good, you know, looked at a rising tide lifts all boats, but probably left some meat on the bone for myself and not necessarily always advocating for myself. And realized at a certain point in my career, probably 2017, 2018, the only way that I'm going to find happiness in my career is is if I'm in charge, if I can establish the culture, I can establish the business, I can work directly with the clients, I can manage the team, lean into the authenticity that I think is important and be a genuine business leader that operates in a way that I wanna operate. Now, that all sounds good and that's pie in the sky shit. Running a business is extremely difficult, but my big swing was an idea around Fun Futures that I had for three or four years, but didn't ultimately take the swing until I just had enough of COVID and building other folks' brand and not necessarily seeing the benefit of it. So now I'm five years into running Funk Futures. It's hard to imagine taking a different type of swing and being an employee doesn't mean it will never happen, but that's just sort of where I'm at. So I took my big swing, ultimately almost exactly five years ago, decided to launch Funk Futures. Funk Futures Media (15:35.19) ups and downs, some success, some, I don't wanna say failure, because it's never been a failure, some trials and tribulations. And here I am. And I feel like at that time, you were really progressing in your career. Red Dog, EnergyLink got acquired by Inveris. Your career path was really on the rise. You're getting executive level status. You're leading teams, you're running P &Ls. And then you went over to Detection, great company. running sales, you I think you saw a lot of things that needed focus and areas of improvement and did a fantastic job in the time you're at detection. However, you were ready for your big swing, right? And I think then you took it. So why don't you talk a little bit about, you know, your career evolution and what led you to having the, what is it? The gall, the confidence, the passion, the inability to continue with what you were doing and desire to take your big swing, Corey Scott (16:21.543) Ahem. Corey Scott (16:33.8) Yeah, no, so I would I would say in the moments Jeremy, you knew it, but you didn't really know it. You had to have other things occur in your life to really kind of bring it to light. And I'd say where I'm at now, it wasn't forced. There was just a lot of timing, right, that you take, you know, your past in your career of what you want. And even though you know what you want to do right or have, you know, the ability to go back and do something if you can, you can't just force that tomorrow. You can have the mindset, but it's also like, Hey, what is that opportunity and does it align right with your family, your time, your career, what you're doing right? There's all these factors. And I think that's ultimately what happened up to this point. Right. So, you know, just to go back, we, know, with red dog and, energy link pre-invarius, it was always they did a great job of always kind of given, you know, an ownership opportunity, ownership mentality, I should say. I think you nailed it. It's, it's, it's, it's more of a mindset in how you perceive your day, how you perceive your clients, taking accountability for yourself, wearing different hats, willing to roll your sleeves up, right? And then the way you can find satisfaction in different types of wins and successes is what makes it. all worthwhile than you've experienced, right? And building something up and yes, to your point, there's not a lot of failures if you look at that way, but there's plenty of trials and tribulations throughout the day, right? And, you know, look, you build with a name yourself and everything else went into the world, right? Private equity backed companies, you know, great to cut my teeth into that learned a ton from so many good people, stay in touch with a lot of those people. Funk Futures Media (18:05.827) Yeah. Corey Scott (18:22.708) And that's great. It was just another stepping stone in my career to also see something different, how we run businesses differently in the B2B software space, you know, versus just privately held and what it was at Red Dog. Cause that was my only exposure, right? For those first 10, 12 years. So I'd say it's kind of a culmination of those things. And then things just worked out timing wise where I was ready to go back, right? Red Dog to larger private equity ran software companies. I said, you know, if I get the opportunity to go back, privately held type companies and take all the learnings and findings I've had here. Man, there's some, lot of things I do the same and there's a lot of things I'd approach a little differently. I'm a little older now with it so I can, you know, have a little bit different thoughts. So, you know, I was pretty excited to try to give a shot. So talking with, you know, Bruce Holman, Energy Payables, Bruce and I worked together at Red Dog Systems. Bruce was always great to me while we were at Red Dog together. So just the timing of being able to align that and work that together. Funk Futures Media (19:00.611) Yeah. Corey Scott (19:21.086) was great, similar to what we're doing with TOTData. And then you also kind of look at the value prop. It makes complete sense from a competitive landscape that we can go to a company and say, yeah, even though it's two companies, TOTData, Energy Payables, it's covering everything under the accounting umbrella from Jib, revenue exchange to Counts Payable, vendor portal activity. Funk Futures Media (19:24.91) for sure. Corey Scott (19:49.326) ticketing pricing agreements. So beyond just invoicing. it kind of covers the whole landscape for folks. So being able to just share that message made sense and why we would want to combine this and do that. but doing it with the people you really respect, people that think similar to you in the sense of that ownership mentality, as you said, Jeremy, that's what really kind of makes it. Cause yeah, there's a lot of hard days. There's a lot of days trying to figure out how we're moving, how we're putting our branding and messaging, who's going to take our call. Funk Futures Media (19:53.784) Yeah. Corey Scott (20:16.978) right? As kind of that newer company who's going to take that, you know, they see it as a risk. We don't see it as much as a risk, but we got to help them with that. Right. So, you know, but, but there's always opportunity and that's made for some people. It's not for everyone though. that's for sure. So look, man, that's just kind of how it came to be with where it is, six months in or so I'm absolutely loving it with everybody. I probably looked at it a little differently than I did seven, eight years ago. Funk Futures Media (20:45.624) Yeah. Corey Scott (20:47.038) But man, it's an absolute thrill and I'm enjoying it. Funk Futures Media (20:50.478) Everything in your career, very well stated, and everything in your career led you to this point, right? Like you did a fantastic job at Detection. You did a great job at Inveris. You're malleable enough. You have that sort of grit and grind and internal passion to succeed, whether that be financially for your family, to have your own self-fulfillment, to lead a team. But truly, You know that disruption is required in the industry that we primarily play in that costs can be driven down, especially in this sort of like steady state, low commodity price environment. How do you find ways to reduce costs and bring in new technology that's easier to use, easier to adopt and do so? And you're the guy to do it, right? I mean, it's similar to what you were doing early on. You were convincing people. to not physically mail documents, right? Not email around spreadsheets or Word docs with valuable information, check stub data and like, you know, high fidelity information. And then eventually it was accepted that a data exchange could be established and everything works. Well, okay, naturally then there will be competition. Once you kind of build up Corey Scott (21:51.272) Hahaha. Funk Futures Media (22:15.95) a space, well then, you know, you start to see you've got a big hotel. Well, now you start to see a little bit of a cottage industry come up around it. And how does that cottage industry then compete? What are the key differentiators? So not too dissimilar to me, right? Like I saw an opportunity to support companies that maybe couldn't afford a full on sales team had failed with full time sales resources. It's hard, man. It's a it's a grind for some of these younger companies. Corey Scott (22:43.144) Yeah. Funk Futures Media (22:44.428) especially for the technical founder that goes out and raises some money. And maybe it's a young private equity or venture capital leader that that's kind of by the book and says, OK, well, now you raise money. The next step is you need to go do sales or go hire a VP of sales, go hire a director of sales, go hire an inside sales team, go hire sales reps. Well, now you're burns like 60 grand a month. And are you really getting the results to come along with that? Like, probably not. Is your team been set up to succeed? Most likely not. So putting in process, putting in a formula, I took what I thought was sort of like a solo-preneurial journey and turned it into more of an entrepreneurial journey with a real company and Fung Futures. And now it's like, if I were to pitch you now on what we do, you'd be like, wow, you guys are like, you're really professional now. And that takes time, that takes learning. And I think it's super fun. And I kind of wonder that for you, you've got your two companies. You've stepped into this fractional world. Corey Scott (23:33.834) Yeah. Funk Futures Media (23:42.776) where you have to split your time. And I sort of wonder, do you now build up something like a Funk Futures or is it just these two? Like you're leaning into Tate or you're leaning into Energy Payables, you're gonna see it all the way through, you're gonna build these two companies. I don't know, what's your mindset on this or is it just too early to say because you're only six months in? Corey Scott (24:03.466) You know, it's, it's fair, right? Cause it in six months or a year that could change. But I tell you right now, the way I felt since joining taught data and energy payables from then, you know, six months ago till now hasn't wavered. And that is really making these two companies succeed. Um, I think what both companies have is a super strong background of people that, you know, the industry has worked with and trust and that's how you can't just find that on the street, but also the product and the tech itself. What all the feedback has been, people are saying like, this is truly disruptive. Like you can compete with the solutions out there, which we haven't seen in. 10, 15 years in my career kind of thing. Like the feedback is, you know, really riveting and showing, hey, like I'm not stepping in for a few months and then stepping out on this. I think there's something special here. So, you know, you really want to see it through. takes time with that. And so look, that's what I'm committed to now. And I'm super excited, like I said, through that. But, you know, time will tell with everything, but that's where I'm at today. Funk Futures Media (25:09.164) No doubt. And time will tell with this podcast to the directions we take. And I'm sorry, you and I talked about this beforehand. Like, this isn't just another Jeremy podcast where you're interviewing Corey. And naturally, I just start to slip into that mode. So we'll definitely continue to sharpen our pencils. And you know, there'll be episodes where you do the lion's share of the talking. I do the lion's share of the talking. You're gonna have to tell me on the side. Hey, man. Corey Scott (25:22.026) We'll switch it out. Funk Futures Media (25:31.948) Shut up, stop talking so much. Because I've been used to solo potting now for a while, Corey. know, like if there's silence, I don't want there to be silence. I have to make it. When I was doing it with Tim, you know, it's much like being in the booth, right? You know when it's your turn to talk, you know when it's not. And I think you and I will figure that out. So the big swing podcast, you can follow this on LinkedIn. It's going to be hosted on the Funkfutures website, on the media page. You'll be able to download this on Apple, on Spotify, all the places that you get your podcasts on YouTube. If you want to watch us to donkeys and our beautiful faces, you can listen to us, watch us that way. But I'm super excited about this, Corey. There's nobody else I'd want to do this with right now. I don't I know. I know your style. I know mine. I don't do anything halfhearted. mean, how we both woke up early in the morning on a Tuesday. to get this done on a day that I have to travel and you got to jump to a meeting in a minute. We are not well compensated professional podcasters. This is something that we do to create value, to brand build, to connect with people and to have fun. So big swing podcast, baby. Let's get after it. Any final words, Corey, before we jump off of episode one? Corey Scott (26:43.03) I'm super excited about being part of it. think for the first episode, the listeners out there are to say, yeah, they'll, they'll cut their teeth into this and they'll work it out. But Hey, that was a pretty good first podcast introducing everything. So look, man, I'm, like, I'm just excited, proud to be alongside with you on this. Like we said, we've talked about it before, but here's coming to fruition. So let's get it. Funk Futures Media (26:53.676) I like it. like it. Funk Futures Media (27:00.62) honor. It's an honor. It's an honor. And one thing we're going to do, right? This is a segment. I think we want to incorporate this in everyone is, you know, maybe a pick, right? Maybe a little bit of maybe a little sports look ahead. Right. So early line on the Super Bowl right now, I'm seeing Seattle favored by four and a half points in most books. I think maybe it started at three and a half. It got bumped up. We'll see if that starts to come down a little bit. I'm going to bet with my heart. Corey Scott (27:13.492) How are we gonna talk sports? Funk Futures Media (27:33.312) on this game. it you know, this is a money line bet for me on the Patriots. I have a ton of futures on the Patriots as well. I'm not going to hedge. I'll probably take the over as well. I think that the Super Bowl, just because they don't call penalties quite as much, it could lead itself to some crazier plays and some higher scoring. But you and I haven't talked too much about this. What's your initial view of this particular game? You're not going to hurt my feelings if you don't pick my team. Corey Scott (27:34.41) Of course you are. Corey Scott (28:02.066) Look, before the games even, the AFC-NFC kicked off, I really felt like whoever wins the NFC game between the Rams and the Seahawks was going to be the one to take it. I was kind of curious how Sam Darnold would play in the Seahawks and I mean, yeah, they gave some points, but you know, he had a hell of a game and he shut a lot of people up too. So they seem like a really hot team right now. Funk Futures Media (28:13.87) for sure. Corey Scott (28:28.008) I don't know, can be down the trenches, right? It's only one game. It's not a best of seven. So, you know, see things happen. I saw a line of around five. I want to look at a little bit more. Sometimes the Superbowl is obviously a lot more fun too with all the player props. So when we have our next, our next session that we're going to try to get going this week, you know, we'll see if we get it out there in time for folks and give a couple picks, but probably early one I'm with you on the over. I really hate leaning on chalk with it, with the Seahawks. I haven't checked this morning if it's gone down from the five, but. Funk Futures Media (28:57.422) Public's on it. Public's on it. Sharps are on it, right? Which leads to a contrarian opportunity potentially on the Patriots. But none of that matters to me because I'm going to bet with my heart. Anyways, we will talk betting in these segments. Like I think we'll even have some people that run AI driven gambling sites. mean, lots of things that will be different than just your traditional oil and gas podcast. So with that, both of us kind of got to run. All right. All right. All All right. Yeah, we don't need to say gambling. Maybe that's a dirty word, but. Corey Scott (28:57.61) I know if they're- Corey Scott (29:07.252) course. Corey Scott (29:15.467) Ha ha. Let's say AI handicapping sites, they're not bettics. Funk Futures Media (29:27.362) Thanks everybody for listening to episode one. We're going to have fun here and tune into the next one.