Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Keisha Lance Bottoms Talks Running For Governor Of Georgia, Black Leadership, Kamala Harris + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Don't every day up waiting, click your ass up the
- 0:04Speaker 1: breakfast club finish for y'all.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Gum.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Yes, it's the world most dangerous waning to show to
- 0:08Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. CHARLAMAGNEA God, DJ NV, just hilarious, Envy and
- 0:11Speaker 1: just are gone. But ll Kuba Lauren Lrosa is here
- 0:14Speaker 1: and we got Testling figure O sitting in because we
- 0:16Speaker 1: have a very special guest, the former mayor of Atlanta,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and she's running for governor Georgia.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Miss Keisha Lance Bottoms is here.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Thank you for coming. How do you feel?
- 0:27Speaker 3: I feel great. It's great to be here. It's I
- 0:30Speaker 3: had a fundbraiser in New York and great to see
- 0:33Speaker 3: you in person.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Absolutely What move made you want to run for governor
- 0:36Speaker 1: Georgia in these crazy times?
- 0:38Speaker 3: Yeah, we we are living. It's like in the twilight
- 0:40Speaker 3: zone right now. So I woke up the day after
- 0:43Speaker 3: the election in November, like so many people, wondering what
- 0:46Speaker 3: it meant for me personally and just for us as
- 0:50Speaker 3: a nation, for Georgia as a state. And I did
- 0:54Speaker 3: a lot of praying, a lot of talking, and then
- 0:57Speaker 3: some more praying, and I decided in season to get
- 1:00Speaker 3: back in the ring. We need strong leadership, and people
- 1:04Speaker 3: are looking to states and to local governments to stand
- 1:09Speaker 3: in the gap because we've got so much craziness and
- 1:12Speaker 3: chaos coming out of DC right now.
- 1:15Speaker 1: You know, Stacey Abrams ran for governor twice and she
- 1:18Speaker 1: fell short even with massive national attention. What would you
- 1:21Speaker 1: do differently so Georgia, you know, it doesn't be like
- 1:24Speaker 1: oh another almost yeah.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Well, you know, Charlemagne, one of the first national interviews
- 1:29Speaker 3: I did was when I was a candidate for mayor
- 1:31Speaker 3: and you had me on and we did it the
- 1:34Speaker 3: old fashioned way. You go knock on doors, you call people.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Now we've got TikTok and all these other ways that
- 1:41Speaker 3: you have to communicate with people sitting here. I mean,
- 1:44Speaker 3: your audience is massive. We have to cover it all.
- 1:47Speaker 3: And what you do. You look at every election, from
- 1:50Speaker 3: Stacy's elections to the VP being on the ballot in November.
- 1:55Speaker 3: You take what work, you keep it, and then what
- 1:58Speaker 3: didn't work as well, then you fix. And the reality
- 2:03Speaker 3: is this, You know, there is a reason that Georgia
- 2:08Speaker 3: went blue in nineteen and twenty. We've got two state
- 2:13Speaker 3: senators who are two senators from Georgia who are Democrats.
- 2:17Speaker 3: So it's possible. It just hasn't happened yet, but it's
- 2:20Speaker 3: certainly possible.
- 2:21Speaker 1: You know, a lot of critics say Democrats in Georgia
- 2:24Speaker 1: can't win statewide unless they run more moderate, like would
- 2:27Speaker 1: you play to the center or lean fully into like progressive.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Well, you know, my mom always says, you don't have
- 2:33Speaker 3: to tell the truth once, and the truth the truth is.
- 2:37Speaker 3: I mean, I am a moderate there, you know, you
- 2:40Speaker 3: just standing your truth and what you believe in. And
- 2:43Speaker 3: I believe that there are some policies that work from
- 2:47Speaker 3: the left. There are some policies that may be more conservative,
- 2:50Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, it's about getting
- 2:53Speaker 3: things done. And when I served as mayor, we got
- 2:57Speaker 3: a lot of things done, from adding and preserving seven
- 3:01Speaker 3: thousand units of affordable housing, to get in our city
- 3:04Speaker 3: workers up to a minimum wage of fifteen dollars an
- 3:07Speaker 3: hour because in Georgia it's just over five dollars an
- 3:11Speaker 3: hour to I mean, I can give an entire list
- 3:15Speaker 3: of things that we were able to accomplish, but it
- 3:18Speaker 3: was standing in our truth and what our values were.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up because you were known
- 3:23Speaker 4: in Atlanta for real standing up for people against the
- 3:26Speaker 4: predatory lending and how the home buyers were getting things
- 3:29Speaker 4: taken and things like that. The homeowners. Can you speak
- 3:32Speaker 4: a little bit about that, well.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Affordable housing was a big push from our administration. And
- 3:36Speaker 3: it's not just an issue in urban areas. It's happening
- 3:40Speaker 3: in rural communities as well. We've been traveling around the state.
- 3:43Speaker 3: It's happening around the country, and you all know it's
- 3:46Speaker 3: people are paying attention to the mayor's race in New York.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Affordability is an issue. So we did focus not just
- 3:53Speaker 3: on affordable housing, but also helping the unbanked. We had
- 3:57Speaker 3: programs that would help people who were under their bank
- 4:00Speaker 3: or couldn't go to traditional institutions to even cash their
- 4:05Speaker 3: checks at the end of the work week, making sure
- 4:08Speaker 3: that we could help build up their credit, making sure
- 4:10Speaker 3: that they had a relationship with the bank. We were
- 4:13Speaker 3: able to do that through the US Conference and mayors.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Financial literacy is so important, whether it's from helping somebody
- 4:22Speaker 3: get a down payment on their first home to helping
- 4:25Speaker 3: to create credit that allows them to even think about
- 4:29Speaker 3: getting their first home. So it's like the approach is layered.
- 4:33Speaker 3: We know that there are a multitude of challenges that
- 4:38Speaker 3: people are facing, but government can and should help address
- 4:44Speaker 3: some of those and sometimes it's in conjunction with the
- 4:47Speaker 3: private sector.
- 4:49Speaker 4: I want to ask you, forty nine women have been
- 4:51Speaker 4: elected as governor and not one has been a black woman.
- 4:56Speaker 4: When you talk about what hasn't worked and what didn't work,
- 4:59Speaker 4: what are some some of the challenges that you see
- 5:02Speaker 4: that all though successful in Atlanta, which is the black mecca,
- 5:05Speaker 4: how will you, I guess galvanized when you look at
- 5:09Speaker 4: Georgia as a state, which is very different than Atlanta
- 5:12Speaker 4: being I would say it's own, you know, own state
- 5:15Speaker 4: by itself. How are you going to you know, reach
- 5:17Speaker 4: out to those communities that are not interested, you know,
- 5:20Speaker 4: in electing and not just a woman of color of
- 5:22Speaker 4: specifically a black woman. How do you how do you
- 5:24Speaker 4: plan on dealing with those challenges?
- 5:25Speaker 3: Well, the reality is this, we've never had a woman
- 5:28Speaker 3: an elected governor in Georgia either, and it is about
- 5:32Speaker 3: meeting people where they are. So we've been traveling around
- 5:35Speaker 3: the state. Atlanta is a great place, but I can't
- 5:38Speaker 3: rely just on Atlanta. If I did, if any candidate did,
- 5:43Speaker 3: we wouldn't win. So we've been making Warner Robbins Augusta
- 5:48Speaker 3: will be in Auburny next week. We have been to Savannah,
- 5:52Speaker 3: Chatham County. We're moving around the state talking directly to people.
- 5:56Speaker 3: So I've got this whole list of issues that i
- 5:58Speaker 3: want to focus on. Eliminating state income taxes for our teachers,
- 6:03Speaker 3: we got to teach a shortage, expanding medicaid in our state.
- 6:06Speaker 3: We've got nine rural hospitals who have closed. We have
- 6:11Speaker 3: half our counties who don't have obgyns, don't have pediatricians,
- 6:17Speaker 3: more deaths than births in more than half our counties
- 6:21Speaker 3: in the state. That's unacceptable. So we're moving around talking
- 6:27Speaker 3: to people. I've got my list of issues, but as
- 6:30Speaker 3: I'm hearing from people, I'm adding to that list. And
- 6:34Speaker 3: it's about reaching everybody, black women, black men, brown people,
- 6:39Speaker 3: white people. It's about listening and being willing to course
- 6:44Speaker 3: correct when necessary.
- 6:46Speaker 1: You know, Republicans in Georgia don't play fedal. You got
- 6:48Speaker 1: voter suppression. Jerry Manderain couturewards like, do you think you
- 6:52Speaker 1: can really outstrategize that you feel like you like kind
- 6:54Speaker 1: of walking into a trap.
- 6:56Speaker 3: No, We've done it before. I mean, and I know
- 6:58Speaker 3: you all are paying attention to what's happening in Georgia.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Five hundred thousand people have been removed from our voter roles.
- 7:05Speaker 3: There are hearings happening right now in the state where
- 7:08Speaker 3: they're trying to reduce early voting and remove absentee voting.
- 7:13Speaker 3: In this whole list, and when you look at a
- 7:15Speaker 3: place like Georgia where the margins are so thin, it matters.
- 7:19Speaker 3: So you mentioned Stacy Stacy's first race fifty five thousand votes.
- 7:24Speaker 3: She lost by the vice president one hundred thousand votes.
- 7:28Speaker 3: That's not a lot when you have millions of people
- 7:31Speaker 3: showing up to vote. So again, what we got to
- 7:34Speaker 3: do is keep talking to people, get them energized. Listen, listen, listen.
- 7:40Speaker 3: I've got four children, three are teenagers, one is twenty three.
- 7:46Speaker 3: I got to stop clutching my pearls when they say
- 7:48Speaker 3: things I don't agree with, because it's their reality. And
- 7:52Speaker 3: as candidates, it's great that we go up on television
- 7:56Speaker 3: and do all these fancy things. We got to go
- 7:59Speaker 3: into the barbershops, the beauty shops. We got to listen
- 8:02Speaker 3: to people.
- 8:03Speaker 5: And then act accordingly in the beginning of the interview
- 8:05Speaker 5: of Charlie may ask you like, why now in these
- 8:07Speaker 5: crazy times that I'm hearing you talk about like going
- 8:09Speaker 5: out and doing things. And the first thing I thought of,
- 8:11Speaker 5: especially with you being the first if elected, was uh
- 8:13Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's book, and she talked about, you know, just
- 8:16Speaker 5: a lot of the struggles she went through because as
- 8:19Speaker 5: a black woman, they weren't they didn't know that. Not
- 8:21Speaker 5: only did they not know what to do, it wasn't
- 8:22Speaker 5: built for her, but they didn't support and she dealt
- 8:24Speaker 5: with a lot behind the scenes. I know you you
- 8:27Speaker 5: worked with the Bidy campaign.
- 8:29Speaker 2: What did you.
- 8:30Speaker 5: Experience then, if I if at all anything that is
- 8:32Speaker 5: preparing you for what you're potentially about to walk into
- 8:34Speaker 5: as first woman black woman governor.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked in White House, and you can't work
- 8:40Speaker 3: in the White House and sit in that senior meeting
- 8:43Speaker 3: every morning just a few steps from the Oval office
- 8:46Speaker 3: and not be a better leader. You see how things
- 8:49Speaker 3: get done, and it is challenging anytime that you are
- 8:52Speaker 3: the first in the room, but it's also this opportunity.
- 8:55Speaker 3: I would always chuckle to myself when the President would say, Keisha,
- 8:59Speaker 3: what do you think? And I would think. I bet
- 9:01Speaker 3: nobody's ever been asked in the old office, So you know,
- 9:08Speaker 3: they're challenges, but there are also a lot of opportunities
- 9:12Speaker 3: there and a lot of times when we are the first,
- 9:16Speaker 3: it's hardest for us in those spaces, but you're opening
- 9:20Speaker 3: doors so that hopefully you won't be the last and
- 9:23Speaker 3: it won't be as difficult as people coming behind you.
- 9:27Speaker 2: How do you.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Navigate supporting the president like Biden while still being honest
- 9:31Speaker 1: about what he could have done better and he could
- 9:33Speaker 1: have done better for black communities, because I'm all record
- 9:35Speaker 1: is seeing the now of the Democratic Party and the
- 9:38Speaker 1: future of the Democratic Party, you got to throw that
- 9:40Speaker 1: old regime under the bus. And the VP does a
- 9:42Speaker 1: great job of doing that in her new book.
- 9:44Speaker 3: I don't know if you read it yet, but no,
- 9:47Speaker 3: I haven't read it yet. But you know, there were
- 9:49Speaker 3: a lot of great things that happened from the Biden
- 9:52Speaker 3: Harris administration that delivered for our communities, and I think
- 9:55Speaker 3: unfortunately right now, just a couple of days ago, I
- 9:59Speaker 3: was speaking with someone about black farmers on all the
- 10:02Speaker 3: strides that had been made in our rural community specifically
- 10:05Speaker 3: to support black farmers. Trump administration's already clawed it back.
- 10:10Speaker 3: So there were a lot of things that were done well,
- 10:13Speaker 3: and I'm very proud of that. Hindsight is always twenty twenty.
- 10:17Speaker 3: You think about things that perhaps could have been done differently,
- 10:21Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that administration delivered
- 10:25Speaker 3: a lot of wins for our communities. And now we
- 10:29Speaker 3: got to look forward and figure out how do we
- 10:33Speaker 3: keep going, how do we keep building, how do we
- 10:36Speaker 3: keep moving? Even when I talk to you, when I
- 10:38Speaker 3: was running for mayor several years ago, Instagram was this
- 10:42Speaker 3: new thing, this new communications tool that we were using.
- 10:46Speaker 3: We're light years away from that. And if we are stagnant,
- 10:51Speaker 3: then we're not going to progress as a party. But
- 10:54Speaker 3: what I know is this, this democracy that we live
- 10:58Speaker 3: in for now to work and progress, and we've got
- 11:03Speaker 3: to be nimble the Republican Party, you know, I compare
- 11:07Speaker 3: these maga Republicans a broken clock is right twice a day.
- 11:11Speaker 3: They've hit it on messaging, and they've hit it on
- 11:14Speaker 3: the long game, and I think we can learn some
- 11:16Speaker 3: lessons in that.
- 11:18Speaker 2: I guess that's it for me.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Right like Democrats, you know, Democrats couldn't message when they
- 11:23Speaker 1: were winning, right at least on a federal level. So
- 11:25Speaker 1: now that they're losing, what can the party message the people?
- 11:28Speaker 1: And I know, I know it's just a state race,
- 11:30Speaker 1: but you're still representing the Democratic Party.
- 11:32Speaker 2: So what is the message now?
- 11:34Speaker 3: Well, I think Charlotte Mane like, we'll be looking at
- 11:37Speaker 3: you all to help us with that too, Like how
- 11:40Speaker 3: do people get their messaging? How do we communicate with people?
- 11:44Speaker 3: We perfected political messaging and ads and all these things
- 11:49Speaker 3: that we've done for decades on end. What we've not
- 11:52Speaker 3: perfected is and I'll just go back to this example.
- 11:56Speaker 3: I remember my now fifteen year old son was like
- 11:59Speaker 3: looking at some NBA something or another on television and
- 12:04Speaker 3: I heard Trump's voice coming through. I'm like, what is
- 12:07Speaker 3: Donald Trump? Like what are you watching? And he's like,
- 12:09Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's on here all the time because he
- 12:12Speaker 3: was talking to our kids when we were still on
- 12:16Speaker 3: cable TV. So I think it's going to take all
- 12:20Speaker 3: of us. It's going to take us thinking differently. You know,
- 12:25Speaker 3: the way that we've traditionally done politics clearly doesn't always work.
- 12:31Speaker 3: It's not always effective. You can still be principled, but
- 12:36Speaker 3: you can still be willing to learn something new. And
- 12:40Speaker 3: that's a challenge. And for me again, I'm listening when
- 12:44Speaker 3: I go into barbershop with my kids. I'm listening when
- 12:49Speaker 3: my son tells me, you know what he did two
- 12:53Speaker 3: three years before the election, we had a problem with
- 12:56Speaker 3: young black men. I'm like no, poland saying x y Z.
- 13:01Speaker 3: He's like, no, y'all got a problem. So I'm learning.
- 13:05Speaker 3: I'm learning to listen.
- 13:07Speaker 2: You know, you know Keisha a black mother.
- 13:09Speaker 1: From the start, she said, my son was watching some
- 13:10Speaker 1: NBA something something something.
- 13:14Speaker 4: I won't go back to when you said a part
- 13:16Speaker 4: of it is leaning on us, And I want to
- 13:18Speaker 4: talk about pressure that a lot of us we put
- 13:21Speaker 4: on you know Democrats as well. I know Charldamain's taking
- 13:24Speaker 4: a lot of heat for it. I've certainly talking a
- 13:26Speaker 4: lot of heat. I want to go back to what
- 13:27Speaker 4: you said about the black farmers. And so, although the
- 13:29Speaker 4: Biden administration did deliver, still pressure had to be put
- 13:33Speaker 4: on the Biden administration to do the right thing. In
- 13:35Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, turning Bedroom Crump pat two foul a
- 13:38Speaker 4: lawsuit against President Biden. So I think it's fair to
- 13:42Speaker 4: say that, yes, the Biden administration delivered. Yes, they certainly
- 13:46Speaker 4: did more than what a previous administration would do or
- 13:49Speaker 4: perhaps what another administration would do. But he also, because
- 13:52Speaker 4: I remember, was he was very conflicted about having to
- 13:54Speaker 4: do that. And so how do we be honest enough
- 13:57Speaker 4: for people to say that, yes, we are putting pressure
- 13:59Speaker 4: on possibly your favorite president or whoever you may like,
- 14:03Speaker 4: in order to get things done. And how can we
- 14:05Speaker 4: be honest about that when we're, you know, doing our
- 14:09Speaker 4: advocacy in the media. Basically, can you respect that that
- 14:12Speaker 4: I may have to say this, ain't it y'all not
- 14:15Speaker 4: doing the right thing because it's traditionally business, well you're
- 14:18Speaker 4: helping Trump or you're helping other side, when that's not it.
- 14:20Speaker 4: We're trying to just actually help the black farmers.
- 14:22Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I'll say is this is we can't
- 14:26Speaker 3: let perfection get in the way of us participating. I'm
- 14:31Speaker 3: not saying that Biden Harris administration was perfect. Clearly it
- 14:35Speaker 3: wasn't perfect. But I'll put the worst day of the
- 14:38Speaker 3: Biden Harris administration up against this Trump administration any day
- 14:41Speaker 3: of the week, because at least I knew we had
- 14:45Speaker 3: a chance. And again, elections are about looking forward. We
- 14:51Speaker 3: want to make sure that when we elect people that
- 14:54Speaker 3: we have a chance to have us see at the table.
- 14:57Speaker 3: I've been inside the White House, so I know he
- 15:01Speaker 3: gets to walk through the door and have those hard conversations.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Sometimes you agree, sometimes you disagree. But as we look
- 15:10Speaker 3: to twenty twenty six, we got to think about do
- 15:14Speaker 3: we want to have a chance again? Do we want
- 15:16Speaker 3: to have a fighting chance? And my concern right now
- 15:20Speaker 3: is at the rate that we are going and the
- 15:22Speaker 3: way our democracy is being unraveled, literally hour by hour,
- 15:27Speaker 3: that if we surrender our right to participate, we're not
- 15:33Speaker 3: gonna have anything to participate in. John Lewis was my congressman.
- 15:39Speaker 3: He represented my district, and I'm often reminded of his words.
- 15:44Speaker 3: Our vote is the most powerful weapon that we have
- 15:47Speaker 3: in a democracy. If we don't use it, we will
- 15:50Speaker 3: lose it. I get that people are frustrated, and people
- 15:53Speaker 3: are choosing the couch. They're not choosing Democrats, they're not
- 15:57Speaker 3: choosing Republicans. They're just disgusted. I ain't going for none
- 16:01Speaker 3: of y'all. And that is the worst thing that we
- 16:04Speaker 3: can do, is to give up and not be a
- 16:08Speaker 3: part of the conversation and not be counted. So no,
- 16:13Speaker 3: no administration gets it all right. The Obama administration didn't
- 16:18Speaker 3: get it all right. The Clinton administration didn't get it
- 16:21Speaker 3: all right, but we at least had a chance to
- 16:24Speaker 3: try again. I don't see that with this Trump administration.
- 16:30Speaker 1: You know, one thing you did when you was mayor,
- 16:32Speaker 1: you gave raisers for police officers and firefighters and always say,
- 16:35Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, more money should go in
- 16:38Speaker 1: police officers pockets. Right, I feel like, you know, if
- 16:39Speaker 1: you have a higher salary for police officers, you'll get
- 16:42Speaker 1: a higher quality of a person for the job.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Right. Why did you decide to do that.
- 16:47Speaker 3: We had a retention issue. We were really struggling, and
- 16:50Speaker 3: we were Our officers were leaving, they were coming to
- 16:55Speaker 3: get trained in Atlanta, they were leaving to go to
- 16:57Speaker 3: other surrounding metro area cities and counties because we were
- 17:03Speaker 3: not on par not just locally but nationally as well.
- 17:09Speaker 3: Our firefighters hadn't gotten their money, their appropriate raises in
- 17:15Speaker 3: fifty years. And at the end of the day, it's
- 17:19Speaker 3: you know, whatever your position is on police officers or
- 17:22Speaker 3: public safety in general, you know, it's not just about
- 17:26Speaker 3: calling somebody when there's a crime, When you have a
- 17:29Speaker 3: car accident, when somebody breaks in your car, you got
- 17:32Speaker 3: to have somebody who can come and investigate and then
- 17:35Speaker 3: be able to go show up in court and testify
- 17:37Speaker 3: and do all those things. So it was important, and
- 17:41Speaker 3: you know it was. I didn't get the support of
- 17:44Speaker 3: police officers or firefighters when I ran, but I thought
- 17:48Speaker 3: that it was the right thing to do and it
- 17:50Speaker 3: was the right thing to do for our city.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Did they give you credit after the fake they did?
- 17:55Speaker 5: They did some of your kids. I know you got
- 17:59Speaker 5: four kids, your wife and some of your kids are older.
- 18:02Speaker 5: I heard you say something help you with like social
- 18:03Speaker 5: media stuff like that, Like how do you balance because
- 18:06Speaker 5: what you do in politics is very demanding. How you
- 18:09Speaker 5: balance It's like life outside of that.
- 18:11Speaker 3: With everything else that balance for a lot of people.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, thankfully, I have an
- 18:18Speaker 3: incredible family that sacrifices more than anybody could possibly understand.
- 18:26Speaker 3: And my therapist said something to me that I keep
- 18:29Speaker 3: in my heart a lot. She said, you were a
- 18:32Speaker 3: strong mayor. I want you to be a powerful governor.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Strong women push through. They have heart attacks, they have strokes,
- 18:41Speaker 3: and they die. She said, powerful women stop, they learned
- 18:45Speaker 3: a lesson and then then only then do they move on.
- 18:48Speaker 3: So for me, it's about balance. So if I have
- 18:52Speaker 3: to if I have to stop what I'm doing and
- 18:56Speaker 3: be balanced when it comes to the needs of my
- 18:59Speaker 3: kids or my family, my husband, that's what I have
- 19:02Speaker 3: to do because that's power. Because when I'm out of sync,
- 19:07Speaker 3: my family's out of sync, my community is out of sync.
- 19:12Speaker 3: So I'm I'm focused on being powerful as a mother,
- 19:17Speaker 3: as a wife, and as a leader, and balance is hard,
- 19:22Speaker 3: but it's a choice.
- 19:24Speaker 4: It means you think women get that grace though, because
- 19:27Speaker 4: you don't really hear men saying I'm gonna be balanced,
- 19:29Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a mother. Do you think that's why
- 19:30Speaker 4: people have a problem women leader? Yeah, exactly, Like they
- 19:35Speaker 4: don't want a leader that's gonna be balanced. They want
- 19:38Speaker 4: completely off balance and totally focused the inn on that.
- 19:41Speaker 4: So I mean, do you think that plays a part
- 19:43Speaker 4: and why? Yeah, I don't want women leadership.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Life isn't fair. People are gonna always take exception to
- 19:50Speaker 3: what you choose and how you choose. But for me,
- 19:53Speaker 3: I know that I'm a more powerful leader when I'm
- 19:55Speaker 3: balanced than when I take the time to take a
- 19:58Speaker 3: walk or when I take the time to do something
- 20:01Speaker 3: like listen to a book. It makes me stronger, and
- 20:05Speaker 3: it makes me more focus. It makes me a better mother,
- 20:09Speaker 3: makes me a better wife, it makes me a better leader,
- 20:14Speaker 3: and a lot of times, you know, whatever your profession is,
- 20:17Speaker 3: we often don't find that balance and we don't choose
- 20:21Speaker 3: it for ourselves. So we go. You know, I was
- 20:24Speaker 3: strong and I pushed through and then we pass out
- 20:27Speaker 3: somewhere because we've been pushing through, and power is saying
- 20:32Speaker 3: sometimes I got to put me first. You know, we
- 20:36Speaker 3: often hear this metaphor when you're on the plane, you
- 20:39Speaker 3: got to put your oxygen mask on first. Well, that's true,
- 20:43Speaker 3: because if I'm not right, nobody is right in my house.
- 20:48Speaker 5: What are your therapy as much as you want to share,
- 20:51Speaker 5: what are your therapy sessions? Like, how do you separate
- 20:54Speaker 5: Keisha land Spottoms as the person, the mom, the wife
- 20:58Speaker 5: versus I'm coming here because my job in politics are
- 21:01Speaker 5: putting me in a bad mental space?
- 21:02Speaker 3: Or do they all come together in therapy? It all
- 21:04Speaker 3: comes together. I love therapy. It's wonderful too. I highly
- 21:08Speaker 3: recommend it too, you know, because you get to unpack
- 21:11Speaker 3: all these things. You know, we live our lives and
- 21:13Speaker 3: we think they're like these segmented spaces in our lives.
- 21:19Speaker 3: But through therapy, what I have found is it's all related.
- 21:23Speaker 3: You bring all that childhood stuff with you, the good,
- 21:26Speaker 3: the bad, the ugly. It comes with you into adulthood,
- 21:30Speaker 3: it comes with you into marriage, it comes with you
- 21:33Speaker 3: into parenthood. Like you bring it all in. If you
- 21:37Speaker 3: don't understand it, sometimes it just doesn't make sense. And
- 21:41Speaker 3: the thing I love about therapy is that it's somebody
- 21:45Speaker 3: who It's not like you're arguing with your spouse, like
- 21:49Speaker 3: you're not taking a position. It's somebody who's neutral and
- 21:53Speaker 3: who's helping you unpack it. My therapist can talk to
- 21:57Speaker 3: me for ten minutes about something I've been talking to
- 21:59Speaker 3: my husband about for ten years, and I'm like, oh, okay,
- 22:02Speaker 3: I understand that. I get it because it's this neutral
- 22:07Speaker 3: person who's trained to help you process and unpack. And
- 22:12Speaker 3: quite frankly, given all of the challenges we're having with
- 22:15Speaker 3: mental health, especially in the black community, like I'm really
- 22:19Speaker 3: proud to speak about it publicly because it is taboo,
- 22:23Speaker 3: and we know people are dealing with PTSD, anxiety, depression
- 22:27Speaker 3: and all these things that we often don't identify or
- 22:31Speaker 3: that we even call a weakness. Sometimes in the black community.
- 22:36Speaker 3: But it's just like if you had high blood pressure diabetes,
- 22:40Speaker 3: we say you need to go see a doctor. Well,
- 22:42Speaker 3: it's the same thing with mental health. If you're struggling,
- 22:46Speaker 3: sometimes you got to go talk to somebody who's a
- 22:48Speaker 3: trained professional who can help you unpack and process.
- 22:52Speaker 1: You know, you talked about a servant leadership a lot, right, Like,
- 22:55Speaker 1: is it possible for a politician to actually be a
- 22:59Speaker 1: publicier because I always see a lot of people who
- 23:02Speaker 1: were servant leaders right, they were public services, but boy,
- 23:05Speaker 1: when they get into politics, they you know, compromise themselves
- 23:08Speaker 1: real quick.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Well, one I say, I don't think people, I don't
- 23:13Speaker 3: think you should be a broke politician because you know,
- 23:18Speaker 3: and sometimes people don't have the choice in terms of
- 23:21Speaker 3: their income. But I've seen that sometimes that can be
- 23:25Speaker 3: challenging for people that if you know, you're signing a
- 23:29Speaker 3: stack of contracts like this worth one hundred hundreds of
- 23:33Speaker 3: millions of dollars, for some people, it can't be tempting
- 23:37Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, not be honest brokers out
- 23:42Speaker 3: of necessity or whatever the reasons. I would say, you know,
- 23:46Speaker 3: for a lot of people, we want everybody at the table.
- 23:49Speaker 3: We want representation of a cross section of people. But
- 23:53Speaker 3: what I tell people, especially younger politicians, is you can
- 23:57Speaker 3: have a life after politics. So even if you go
- 24:01Speaker 3: in and your income is not great and you're looking
- 24:05Speaker 3: at these contracts you're signing for people getting millions of
- 24:08Speaker 3: dollars in contracts, then plan for your future. Don't touch
- 24:13Speaker 3: it now, Just plan for your future because at the
- 24:16Speaker 3: end of the day, you're there to serve and you're
- 24:18Speaker 3: there to stay free. And for black politicians especially, we
- 24:23Speaker 3: are often targets and unfortunately sometimes you know it's we
- 24:31Speaker 3: make it too easy to get in trouble.
- 24:33Speaker 2: So basically, do right by the people when you in
- 24:35Speaker 2: office and get that money. Once you get don do
- 24:36Speaker 2: right by the people.
- 24:37Speaker 3: The best political advice I got was from a friend
- 24:42Speaker 3: of mine who said, whatever you do, make sure you
- 24:45Speaker 3: can always go home. And what he meant by that
- 24:49Speaker 3: was like when I walk in the grocery store, I'm
- 24:52Speaker 3: not afraid. I can hold my head up high. People
- 24:55Speaker 3: may not agree with me, but I can defend anything
- 24:58Speaker 3: I've done, any decision I've ever made, even if it's
- 25:02Speaker 3: as much as saying I made a mistake, I do
- 25:04Speaker 3: it differently, but I can see I still live in
- 25:07Speaker 3: the same house, same community, I shop in the same store,
- 25:11Speaker 3: like all the things are still the same because when
- 25:14Speaker 3: I left off as I was able to go back home.
- 25:17Speaker 4: I want to ask your thoughts on because I'll be
- 25:20Speaker 4: honest with you. I'm an independent, I used to be
- 25:22Speaker 4: a Democrat, and I'm gonna be honest the messaging on, well,
- 25:24Speaker 4: at least we have a chance. That don't really land
- 25:27Speaker 4: with me, Like I want the straight you know, we
- 25:30Speaker 4: going in we are taking whatever we can get, which
- 25:33Speaker 4: I get, you know, and I understand your point. But
- 25:36Speaker 4: I'm loving the energy that Governor Newsom is on right now,
- 25:40Speaker 4: and he's been inspiring to a lot of a lot
- 25:42Speaker 4: of people may not agree with his politics. I think
- 25:44Speaker 4: everybody has a role to play politics. Your personality, your personality,
- 25:48Speaker 4: his is his. Do you see him being helpful over
- 25:51Speaker 4: because I know you're running for governor, but the Democrat
- 25:54Speaker 4: Party as a whole bringing the smoke. What have been
- 25:57Speaker 4: your thoughts on him being able to play that at
- 26:00Speaker 4: offense defense, you know, to kind of say things that
- 26:03Speaker 4: maybe other politicians cannot, or to kind of run that play.
- 26:07Speaker 4: How have you been have you been received, have you
- 26:09Speaker 4: been clutching your pearls.
- 26:13Speaker 3: I love it. I mean, and that's his personality. So
- 26:16Speaker 3: I love it, I think, and people are looking for
- 26:19Speaker 3: people who are authentic and genuine in their leadership. That's
- 26:23Speaker 3: his style, and I mean, I'm here for it. And
- 26:26Speaker 3: what I would say, you know, even with you identifying
- 26:28Speaker 3: as an independent, the respect that I have for that
- 26:33Speaker 3: is that we can't take anybody for granted. And what
- 26:36Speaker 3: I'm saying in this season, people are so much more informed.
- 26:40Speaker 3: And I'm a Delta. I did something with a group
- 26:44Speaker 3: of Deltas and when I tell you, they asked me
- 26:46Speaker 3: the hardest questions of any group that I've been around,
- 26:51Speaker 3: you know, and I was like, wow, okay, and they
- 26:54Speaker 3: were there in support of me, but they want to
- 26:58Speaker 3: like so you know, I'm not taking anybody for granted.
- 27:04Speaker 3: We shouldn't take anybody for granted. I think at the
- 27:08Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, a lot of people
- 27:11Speaker 3: are more not Democrat, not Republican, and more in the
- 27:16Speaker 3: middle than even we self identify as. But going back
- 27:21Speaker 3: to Gavin Newsome, I love what he's doing. I love
- 27:25Speaker 3: that he's owning it. I think that he is brilliant.
- 27:28Speaker 3: I love that it is authentic to him. And I
- 27:31Speaker 3: love that he is meeting the moment. I think the
- 27:35Speaker 3: biggest danger for any of us would be to engage
- 27:39Speaker 3: in ways is that that's not authentic to us because
- 27:43Speaker 3: people see it, and you know, people have a high
- 27:46Speaker 3: BS radar, and if it's not real, people are going
- 27:49Speaker 3: to pick up on that too. It's real for him.
- 27:53Speaker 5: What if your thoughts been around your safety going back
- 27:56Speaker 5: into office like I.
- 27:57Speaker 3: Know you had, Like you got your security.
- 28:00Speaker 5: Dind it for some time because the death threat you're
- 28:01Speaker 5: receiving and Trump's in office, and you guys had your
- 28:04Speaker 5: back and forth with the whole resignation thing, where you're thought,
- 28:08Speaker 5: it's just a crazy time. What are your thoughts around that?
- 28:10Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 28:10Speaker 3: I mean as a person of the faith, I plead
- 28:13Speaker 3: the blood of Jesus over me and my family because
- 28:17Speaker 3: it's real. When I was mayor, I had a lot
- 28:21Speaker 3: of credible threats, including a credible kidnapping threat. I remember
- 28:28Speaker 3: going for a walk one day and a man pulling
- 28:31Speaker 3: up on me saying, Oh, I didn't think it was
- 28:33Speaker 3: gonna be this easy to find you. Thankfully he didn't
- 28:37Speaker 3: mean me harm, but he did find me out walking
- 28:40Speaker 3: by myself. So I'm constantly.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Wow I mean I understand you, you know, enjoy your freedom,
- 28:47Speaker 1: you got faith in God, but why would you.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Be walking by yourself? You still got to protect yourself.
- 28:51Speaker 3: Probably not not the smartest thing to do, but you know,
- 28:55Speaker 3: I left out my door. I went for a walk,
- 28:57Speaker 3: and I didn't think, you know, this man was gonna
- 29:00Speaker 3: drive over from De Camp County and look for me
- 29:02Speaker 3: that day. Now it was it smart, no, but I
- 29:07Speaker 3: mean that was I wanted to walk by myself that day.
- 29:11Speaker 3: And so back in this season, I am mindful of it.
- 29:17Speaker 3: I'm I'm cognizant of it. Anytime I'm speaking before a group,
- 29:22Speaker 3: I find I like I'm looking around, paying attention to
- 29:26Speaker 3: who's moving, who's you know, where's the exit? You know,
- 29:31Speaker 3: layering on security. I mean, it's just it's it's the
- 29:35Speaker 3: nature of the times that we're living, man, and it's, uh,
- 29:41Speaker 3: it is unsettling, but it's our reality.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Do you think that there's an attack on black mars.
- 29:52Speaker 3: I think there's an attack on black leadership across the board.
- 29:57Speaker 3: I think the attack on black mayors is like, that's
- 30:01Speaker 3: a generational you know, even Ambassador Young was called before
- 30:08Speaker 3: a grand jewelry, you know, so it's yeah, I mean,
- 30:14Speaker 3: I think that's real.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Why do like, why is it why black?
- 30:19Speaker 1: Why does black mayor leadership get targeted that in that way?
- 30:23Speaker 3: Well, I mean, so I'll give Atlanta as an example.
- 30:26Speaker 3: The mayor of Atlanta is the CEO of the city.
- 30:29Speaker 3: It's a strong mayor form of government, with over a
- 30:33Speaker 3: billion dollar budget between the airport, the warder department, and
- 30:38Speaker 3: the city's general fund budget actually probably closer to billion dollars.
- 30:43Speaker 3: That's a lot of money and a lot of contracts
- 30:46Speaker 3: that you're signing. So even in Georgia and in Atlanta,
- 30:52Speaker 3: the guy who's the front runner on the Republican side
- 30:55Speaker 3: for governor put forth legislation to take the airport from
- 30:59Speaker 3: the City of Atlanta, to take it, to take it
- 31:03Speaker 3: over because the city runs the airport, because their contracts there.
- 31:09Speaker 3: Some would say it had a large part to do
- 31:12Speaker 3: within helping to build a black middle class in Atlanta.
- 31:16Speaker 3: So anytime you have money involved and you have a
- 31:21Speaker 3: singular black leader who can sign those contracts, who cannot
- 31:27Speaker 3: sign those contracts, it's going to get attention, it's going
- 31:32Speaker 3: to get scrutiny, and it's gonna make you susceptible to investigation.
- 31:38Speaker 3: It's not fair, but that was happening when Maynard Jackson
- 31:42Speaker 3: was the mayor of Atlanta. It happened to Ambassador Young,
- 31:45Speaker 3: I mean it, it happens.
- 31:48Speaker 4: So basically saying that's where the powers I'm always talking
- 31:50Speaker 4: about local and state. Local and state, that's where the
- 31:52Speaker 4: power is. That's where things get done the most, the
- 31:54Speaker 4: quick as the fastest. And you're saying that the local level,
- 31:57Speaker 4: the mayor's is targeted because of the power that they have.
- 32:00Speaker 4: Talk about a little bit about the governor, because we
- 32:03Speaker 4: love the sex you know how sexity is. Talk about
- 32:06Speaker 4: Congress and president, all of that, but talk about the
- 32:08Speaker 4: power that a governor has that can literally change somebody's
- 32:12Speaker 4: life overnight, opposed to being in Congress where you have
- 32:15Speaker 4: to argue with hundreds of people.
- 32:17Speaker 3: So when federal money, for example, comes into a state,
- 32:21Speaker 3: it often flows right through the state government through the
- 32:25Speaker 3: governor's office. Governor can determine budgets. The governor can determine
- 32:31Speaker 3: how much we're allocating toward this community as opposed to
- 32:35Speaker 3: that community. The governor of Georgia is one of the
- 32:38Speaker 3: most powerful governors in the nation because they have the
- 32:41Speaker 3: power of a line item veto. So when legislation comes
- 32:45Speaker 3: to the governor. He can scratch out a line and
- 32:48Speaker 3: change it just with the or she will be able
- 32:52Speaker 3: to change it just with the stroke of a pen.
- 32:55Speaker 3: So it matters. You are allocating budget, you are setting priorities,
- 33:02Speaker 3: you are appointing people to boards, whether it's the border
- 33:07Speaker 3: Regions which oversees higher education than the state, to the
- 33:12Speaker 3: Port of Savannah that deals with export and import that's
- 33:15Speaker 3: coming in and out of the state, to infrastructure projects,
- 33:19Speaker 3: to public safety. All of that flows from the governor's office.
- 33:25Speaker 1: What do you think about People are in Atlanta are
- 33:27Speaker 1: very critical of Copcity.
- 33:28Speaker 2: How would you address that?
- 33:31Speaker 3: My concern about that is that when you are not
- 33:35Speaker 3: investing in public safety, that you are getting out what
- 33:39Speaker 3: you are putting in. So with the police training facility,
- 33:45Speaker 3: there were two places that firefighters who were being trained
- 33:50Speaker 3: police were being trained. The place that firefighters were being
- 33:55Speaker 3: trained ended up being condemned because of mold of bad
- 33:59Speaker 3: mone infestation. The place where police were being trained was
- 34:04Speaker 3: like a fifty year old school building. The facilities were
- 34:08Speaker 3: just they were awful, and I believe the prior police
- 34:12Speaker 3: training place was condemned as well. They were awful. I
- 34:16Speaker 3: mean the reality is that they have to be trained somewhere,
- 34:20Speaker 3: and we needed a new facility in Atlanta to train
- 34:25Speaker 3: our police and firefighters, and it was costing us a
- 34:29Speaker 3: lot of money because we didn't have a state of
- 34:33Speaker 3: the art facility. And again going into the morale and
- 34:38Speaker 3: whatever your thoughts are again on public safety. When you
- 34:43Speaker 3: have police officers, when you have firefighters, when you have
- 34:48Speaker 3: people ems, paramedics, they have to be trained somewhere. They
- 34:53Speaker 3: don't just show up and get put out on the street.
- 34:56Speaker 3: And we needed a new facility in Atlanta to do that.
- 35:01Speaker 4: One of the things I give you credit on I
- 35:03Speaker 4: still like to call you mayor Lands Bottoms of your Mindy,
- 35:05Speaker 4: it's through your title you building in non traditional, non
- 35:09Speaker 4: traditional coalitions. A lot of times people just tap into
- 35:13Speaker 4: hip hop and tap in who they think is cool
- 35:15Speaker 4: for the moment. You've done an excellent job of building relationships,
- 35:19Speaker 4: you know, with Tip and Killer Mike and really understanding
- 35:23Speaker 4: how entertainment and hip hop is a part of Atlanta
- 35:26Speaker 4: culture culture.
- 35:28Speaker 3: How do you.
- 35:29Speaker 4: Plan on still, you know, building those non traditional coalitions
- 35:34Speaker 4: and how they can benefit you through the State of
- 35:36Speaker 4: Georgia Because a lot of times, like you said, people
- 35:38Speaker 4: just do the hot sauce in my bag, you know,
- 35:40Speaker 4: to say, you know, I'm cool for the moment. You've
- 35:43Speaker 4: really built some authentic relationships. How were you able to
- 35:46Speaker 4: do that and how do you see that benefiting you
- 35:49Speaker 4: in your race?
- 35:49Speaker 3: Because you got to hear from everybody. And I love Tip,
- 35:53Speaker 3: I love Carolling Mike. Those are my brothers, genuinely, and
- 35:58Speaker 3: I know they bring a voice and a persona that
- 36:00Speaker 3: I'm not gonna always hear in a board room. But
- 36:03Speaker 3: by the same token, I have to build relationships or
- 36:06Speaker 3: have had to build relationships with CEOs. Where there's a
- 36:09Speaker 3: CEO of Delta Airlines ups or home depot, you have
- 36:13Speaker 3: to build those relationships too. And a bastardor young used
- 36:17Speaker 3: to call it the Atlanta Way. This where government, philanthropic groups,
- 36:22Speaker 3: civic community come together, business community to be able to
- 36:26Speaker 3: get things done. And we've been to beneficiary beneficiaries of that.
- 36:31Speaker 3: So when Killer Mike and Tip served on my transition committee,
- 36:36Speaker 3: I'll never forget we were sitting in the Metro Chamber
- 36:39Speaker 3: of Commerce and you got all these Orchard five hundred CEOs,
- 36:44Speaker 3: and Tip and Killer Mike like watching these CEOs, smitten
- 36:48Speaker 3: that they were in the room like it was priceless.
- 36:52Speaker 3: And in that room, Tip and Killer Mike met a
- 36:55Speaker 3: man named Noel Khalil who was also on the transition committee.
- 36:59Speaker 3: He's since passed. He was a wonderful man, affordable housing
- 37:02Speaker 3: builder Columbia Residential. From that transition committee, they built a
- 37:08Speaker 3: partnership that's now allowed them to put affordable housing on
- 37:11Speaker 3: the West side of Atlanta. It came out of that room.
- 37:15Speaker 3: So that's a responsibility that I felt I had as
- 37:18Speaker 3: a mayor, not just to hear from them, but also
- 37:21Speaker 3: to make sure they were president rooms.
- 37:23Speaker 4: Put him in position, not just entertaining, that's in position.
- 37:27Speaker 3: That's it I mean, and it's their influence is huge.
- 37:33Speaker 3: But again also they're bringing up perspective. You know, Killer
- 37:37Speaker 3: Mike very proudly said, like he's an independent, he he
- 37:41Speaker 3: likes Brian Kim. There are things that Killer Mike believes
- 37:45Speaker 3: in that some people may see as as extreme right wing.
- 37:51Speaker 3: You know, I see it just as him being an
- 37:53Speaker 3: independent black man making decisions based on what his value
- 37:57Speaker 3: set is, and.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Who loves Atlanta and who loves to Georgia and who
- 38:00Speaker 1: was going to talk to office and build whoever's in
- 38:03Speaker 1: office to do what's best for that state.
- 38:05Speaker 3: Yes, and it's not person base. It's I mean it's
- 38:09Speaker 3: it's not politically based.
- 38:11Speaker 4: It's people based off the governor about the programs that
- 38:15Speaker 4: he's doing for trade. I don't know if he likes
- 38:17Speaker 4: him personally or not, but I know he likes the programs.
- 38:20Speaker 4: You know that he's been able to have that relationship
- 38:22Speaker 4: with to talk about that's right.
- 38:24Speaker 3: And again this coalition building. When I was mayor, we
- 38:28Speaker 3: closed this transaction. If you've ever been to Atlanta outside
- 38:32Speaker 3: the Mercedes Bend Stadium, it was called the gulch largest
- 38:35Speaker 3: real estate transaction in the history of the city. Out
- 38:39Speaker 3: of that, we put money towards vocational training. Because Delta
- 38:43Speaker 3: Airlines said, I got ten thousand mechanics, I need train
- 38:46Speaker 3: Home Depot said I need I need some plumbers. True
- 38:51Speaker 3: ist said, I need colders. We put money into this
- 38:54Speaker 3: program to help train people to fill these great jobs.
- 38:59Speaker 3: We were able to create an Affordable Housing trust fund
- 39:01Speaker 3: that's city wide now, so if you got some rising
- 39:05Speaker 3: property taxes, you can go tap into this trust fund
- 39:08Speaker 3: to help pay your property taxes. A child savings account.
- 39:12Speaker 3: All of our public school kindergarteners now have this child
- 39:16Speaker 3: savings account that will follow them through high school. I
- 39:19Speaker 3: couldn't do that just as the leader, just from our
- 39:23Speaker 3: budget and the city. It took all of us being
- 39:25Speaker 3: at the table being able to get it done. And
- 39:28Speaker 3: what a Tip and kill a Mike are very astute
- 39:32Speaker 3: with is understanding the needs of our community. Everybody's not
- 39:36Speaker 3: going to college. Everybody doesn't want to go to college.
- 39:39Speaker 3: Everybody shouldn't go to college, but they still need to
- 39:42Speaker 3: be able to get some training so that when the
- 39:46Speaker 3: unions are saying you can come through our program, we'll
- 39:50Speaker 3: pay you to train forty two dollars an hour and
- 39:54Speaker 3: then you'll have a six figure job coming out. You know,
- 39:58Speaker 3: we have to have people advocating for that.
- 40:00Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
- 40:01Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions, because I know you
- 40:02Speaker 1: got to go and keeping on schedule. When you look back,
- 40:04Speaker 1: what do you feel was your most misunderstood move as
- 40:08Speaker 1: mayor and what would you want people to know about
- 40:10Speaker 1: the thinking behind it?
- 40:12Speaker 3: Probably my choosing not to run a second term. Yeah,
- 40:18Speaker 3: that was it, because it didn't make sense to people
- 40:21Speaker 3: because nobody had ever done it. And my poll numbers
- 40:24Speaker 3: were at sixty eight percent, which was exceedingly high for
- 40:29Speaker 3: any urban mayor, so I knew it was very likely
- 40:33Speaker 3: that I would win if I ran again, And I
- 40:37Speaker 3: made the decision not to run, and people thought it
- 40:40Speaker 3: was from a position of weakness, but it was like
- 40:43Speaker 3: one of the most powerful things I've ever done at yourself.
- 40:47Speaker 3: From that, what I learned about myself is that sometimes
- 40:51Speaker 3: you things that you do just won't make sense to
- 40:55Speaker 3: anybody else, and you gotta be okay with that. Also
- 41:01Speaker 3: that in the absence of your narrative, somebody's gonna fill
- 41:05Speaker 3: that void with something. And I tried as best I
- 41:10Speaker 3: could to articulate it to people. Quite frankly, a lot
- 41:13Speaker 3: of it I had to unpack in therapy and why
- 41:17Speaker 3: I chose it, why I chose to make that decision.
- 41:21Speaker 3: But what I do know is had I not made
- 41:23Speaker 3: it based on where I was personally in my family
- 41:28Speaker 3: personally in that season, I wouldn't be ready to step
- 41:31Speaker 3: back in the ring in this season.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Wow, if you became governor, what's the one change you'd
- 41:37Speaker 1: want people to remember you for, not not just in
- 41:39Speaker 1: Georgia but nationwide.
- 41:42Speaker 3: The biggest scene right now, the affordability piece is huge.
- 41:47Speaker 3: That's an overarching theme but Medicaid expansion is huge in
- 41:52Speaker 3: our state. We got people dying because they can't get
- 41:55Speaker 3: to a hospital, and I think if we can span
- 42:00Speaker 3: Medicaid immediately, it will change the trajectory of a lot
- 42:05Speaker 3: of communities in our state. And at the end of
- 42:09Speaker 3: the day, I want people to know that I was there,
- 42:14Speaker 3: that their lives were better, their communities were better because
- 42:18Speaker 3: I was there to serve.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Absolutely, Miss Keisha lands Bottoms. Tell them where to support
- 42:23Speaker 1: your campaign.
- 42:24Speaker 3: Keisha for Governor dot com. Please go online, follow me,
- 42:29Speaker 3: sign up the volunteer and people say, what can I
- 42:31Speaker 3: do if I'm not in Georgia. Everybody has a cousin
- 42:34Speaker 3: or a friend somewhere in Georgia. Everybody has the checkbook.
- 42:39Speaker 3: We need the resources and we we need the energy
- 42:43Speaker 3: and Keisha bottle of Keisha for Governor k E I
- 42:48Speaker 3: s h a Keisha for Governor dot com.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Thank you, Miss Bottoms. I appreciate you for stopping by it.
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