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Episode 77: Obi-Wan Kenobi and Quinlan Vos - An Unexpected but Perfect Pairing · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there, it's time for most things Kenobi.
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  I prefer all things Kenobi, but I suppose that's not the Jedi
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  way as long as it's not all things Anakin.
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  Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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  A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I'm your host Lauren, and I'm your host Leanne, and this week,
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  we're going to talk about something a little lighter.
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  We're gonna lighten the mood after the last couple episodes.
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  Today we're going to talk about Quinlan Vos and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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  The hilarious Duo, the mass of a Duo.
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  Yeah, the mesha stele, oh yeah. Yes, the penultimate shit show.
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  Yeah, second only to Obi-Wan and Anakin, that's it.
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  Thank you. Yes.
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  Poor Obi-Wan. He gets stuck with such
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  challenging characters. Doesn't he partners for happens?
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  When you're an uptight rule follower?
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  Yeah, that even a rule follower. He just likes to tell himself is
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  a rule follower. Yeah, I mean, and he's and he's
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  paired with Quinlan. Us.
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  Who is the original Rogue one? I guess, you know, in a sense he
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  was Rogue Clarence. Just loves Quinlan Vos, don't
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  you? He's got good taste.
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  We've always said this. So what do we love about these
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  two? Oh, do we have enough time to
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  listen? Let us count the ways.
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  They are, the funniest like Odd Couple.
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  They are so ridiculous together and I love it.
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  I love that they're constantly at each other, but in a way
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  that's also kind of like friendly banter.
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  It's yes, because we've talked about it before.
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  They obviously have known each other a while because the
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  Rapport they have hints that they've kind of grown up
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  together. They're aware of one another's.
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  Idiosyncrasies will say yes, they're very except well okay
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  not accepting but tolerant of those idiosyncrasies, they
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  understand each other. Yes.
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  And I think it's kind of nice. I think it's nice that Quinlan
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  Vos can just sweep in or jump in.
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  Or whatever he does there and slap Obi-Wan on the on the
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  shoulder like an old pal and say, how's Temple life, treating
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  you like you know, like all we have said we sit at the past
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  because he says well that's just like your opinion band.
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  He's the dude in Star Wars, he's the dude, he's the dude.
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  If he had a pair of black shades, he would put them on if
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  he would, if he was allowed. He'd wear a bathrobe everywhere.
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  He went everywhere. And jelly sandals and job was
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  just gonna say the jelly sandals.
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  Yes, we love a good pair of jelly sandals.
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  Quinlan is totally a jelly sandals type of guy.
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  You know what? I bet you they would Aid him in
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  fighting. These are two.
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  Excellent Fighters, very skilled combatants.
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  Yes, I would argue that Quinlan Vos could fight and would fight
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  in a pair of jelly shoes. Crystal clear ones.
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  The clear. Yes.
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  Exactly. No sprinkles or Sparkles or
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  glazed? Yeah.
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  Same like Plain Jane. I like it.
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  I need this drawn your up, I don't know.
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  Um yeah Journey we have a request.
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  We needed a frost jelly sandals sandals.
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  This is already off the rails. This is half what we do best.
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  It is no one has to know it's the second time we've done this.
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  It's true. Actually, oh, the beauty of
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  Technology, right? Yeah.
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  It's a every day's, a new adventure, we understand, right.
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  That Obi-Wan and Quinlan are kind of around the same age,
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  they at least kind of, like, grew up around the same time,
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  period, whether or not, they're exactly the same age.
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  I don't think they are, but right, it kind of grew up in the
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  temple together. There's definitely an indication
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  as you said that, they have like a rapport.
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  Hmm. And I think.
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  So you've said it before that, they couldn't really talk that
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  way to each other in a way that snarky and kind of poking fun,
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  unless they already had an established Rapport.
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  So that I think is kind of refreshing because you don't see
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  that with Obi-Wan and other characters, very often know.
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  And I I agree. I think that it was established
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  perhaps in their teenage maybe their junior high years to sum
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  it up like that. We're Foss was a little off.
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  A little odd. He was a little rebellious,
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  obviously Obi-Wan's been a little uptight, his entire life,
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  you know. Yeah.
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  A little more quaffed if you will.
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  Then we'll say Quinlan Vos but they both appreciate the
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  Opposites from themselves. I think Voss appreciates and
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  pokes, fun and respects Obi-Wan. And I think Obi-Wan knows Voss
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  is very talented, he's extremely good at what he does.
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  He has the special, what is it site?
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  Psychometry, mmm, his like Jedi skill of skills and there's a
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  respect level. There were friends can poke fun
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  at each other and no it's not a nefarious or Evil coming from an
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  Evil Hearted place and that's what I like about these.
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  He's too. Yes, I love that.
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  They're not actually trying to be jerks and like hurt each
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  other. It's like a friendly kind of
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  fun. Poking.
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  Yeah. I like it because nobody else
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  really has the nerve like not even Anakin to no fun Obi-Wan
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  that way. And it's really entertaining and
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  Obi-Wan doesn't quite come out as flatly and forwardly as he
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  does. As when he kind of yells it
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  Quinlan. Like I don't want to yell but
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  just like what? He's flustered.
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  He's definitely getting away. Stop that.
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  Look, you know. So I feel like I've been on a
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  few assignments before before we see them in the best, one of the
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  best episodes of The Clone Wars, which is a hunt, the hunt for
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  zero, I'd love it. It's one of my it, it's like the
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  Standalone like it. Why does it?
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  Standby stuff. Where are the other two episodes
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  in the arc? I feel like there should be two
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  more of them together, but we have to go back with the Finish
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  Clone Wars, hashtag and say, finished hunt, 40, are that
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  never happened. We want more of Obi-Wan and
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  Quinlan because, oh my God, just right from the beginning, where
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  even Cody is like you seem nervous to Obi-Wan like, yeah,
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  what's going on? Is I Quinlan Vos has that effect
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  the upright like, like, he's Looking forward to it, but he's
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  kind of dreading it because he knows what's coming and he's
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  going to have to just deal with it.
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  Obi-Wan is a council member and Quinlan is still bossing them
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  around and telling us what you do.
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  It's so great, it's great but you know they get the job done.
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  It go in the episode hunt 40 where we'll talk about Quinlan
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  and some other Star Wars media but I mean this is our favorite.
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  This is our baby. Yeah it's never not
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  entertaining. It's got the quips.
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  It's got the annoyances. It's At the ooh that was that
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  was good and it's gotten the flat out laughing moments and
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  then there's just a whole heap of badassery at the end when
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  they're fighting CAD Bane and the flipping over those rocks
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  and they're in the air and they're using each other's
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  lightsabers or whatever and it's good.
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  It's real good. Yeah, it's really fun.
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  It's such a fun entertaining episode and you're right it's
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  one of the few that makes not not the few.
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  It's one of the many that makes Me laugh out loud.
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  The the door at this is Eros, mother's house is probably one
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  of my favorite moments in Clone Wars ever.
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  Yes. Same.
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  I love it. Because Obi-Wan is like, we must
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  be cautious, and then he just kicks the door.
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  John Foster, just like, whatever kicks the door in.
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  Somebody lives here. So good.
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  He's so he's so taken aback and offended by what Quinlan just
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  did. That's gonna win and profusely
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  apologized to the mat, ma'am, or Madam, or wed?
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  Mmm, Madam that. He calls her.
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  She's anything. But, but, you know, my gosh, I
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  know. I love laughs.
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  Now, he's trying to be a good guest even though Quinlan just
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  broke her front entrance. So I know and then A just leave
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  it. Yeah, just leave it like
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  whenever we're out of here. Yeah.
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  I just like that. The even the last line between
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  them and the episode supporting her hanging on the side of the
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  cliff. You know.
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  Everyone's I never did like hanging out with you, everyone.
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  That was unnecessary but we love that about you and, you know,
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  women liked it. Yeah.
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  When the hike because he expects that from Obi-Wan because they
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  know each other. So Exactly, you know, it's like
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  I can almost picture via Quinlan Vos being like, you know what?
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  Obi-Wan, if you just open one button on your, on your thing,
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  you might be able to move a little bit.
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  You know what I mean? Like just button one button, one
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  button and see what happens. The World Won't Die, it won't
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  kill again. Just loosen up a bit, you know.
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  Yeah lighten up it is like sleeveless.
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  His buff arms and the tattoos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  He's a liar. Quinlan is really fun.
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  I like that. He lightens up Obi-Wan a bit.
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  Yeah, she was, like, not it. He's kind of like doubling down
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  on being uptight, but really, ultimately, he's kind of, like,
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  loosening up there, especially that scene with the like swamp
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  snake. Yeah, just yes.
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  Hey, it's so scary and Just mocking each other and then the
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  snake appears and Obi-Wan kills it and Quinlan is standing there
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  with his arms crossed watching it and it's just like, are you
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  done messing around? Yeah.
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  Right. They play off each other so well
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  and honestly the voice actors job at making it.
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  Come alive is half the battle. I mean, animations great, but
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  it's the way that they play off of each other even in In Boise.
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  It's just, it's just great. We love these two for
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  everything. They are and everything.
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  They're not. Yes.
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  We want more of it. You know.
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  Speaking of psychometry did you know that that episode is
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  actually the first time we ever see Jedi psychometry in Cannon?
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  I did not know that. I didn't know it existed until I
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  saw this episode. So I was, it's the first time
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  I've shown. Was that the first time it's
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  mentioned, I think it Mentioned in Legends.
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  Oh, okay, the courtship of Leia. Princess Leia, maybe it was
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  brought up I mentioned or something.
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  Interesting, but we don't see it and it doesn't become like a
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  real thing until the Clone Wars. Thanks, Dave.
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  But then it becomes more popular calc Estes in the PlayStation
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  game. I don't know if it's just
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  PlayStation, but it's a game. Yeah, he also, Has psychometric
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  powers and then, of course, re Skywalker.
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  So, yeah, those are, I would say those are two of the newer
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  School Jedi. It's, that's interesting.
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  I didn't know that about Cal and it's it Ray.
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  She doesn't really, she didn't know she had it, right?
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  Until she picks up Luke's lightsaber.
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  I feel ya in the force awakens, but then, they don't really kind
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  of use it anymore after that. Maybe I'm wrong.
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  But I feel like that's kind of the only thing that she wasn't
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  with that that knife thing that she Maybe no i.d.
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  Be, I don't got to. She picks it up and she says,
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  like, Lux with Luke was looking for this or something.
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  I don't know if it was because of psychometry, or if it was
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  just, she put the pieces together.
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  It's unclear. But yeah, she definitely has it.
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  Well maybe correct me if I'm wrong because I don't really
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  know so much about cow cast as because I don't have a game
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  console. So I haven't played that game.
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  But Quinlan seems to use it use Psychiatry as opposed to like
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  when you when you first kind of start to discover that you have
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  this skill You can't control it. Sometimes is whatever you pick
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  up because it's like a visceral experience but Quinlan seems to
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  be able to use it well and they say that people can suffer from
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  seizures and stuff. When they first discover, they
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  have the power because it's not controlled.
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  Like you said, I don't know how you would end up controlling it.
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  Obviously, there's training. I'm assuming.
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  Yeah, there must be, I guess, but that would be horrible if
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  you didn't get the training. Yeah, because you never know
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  when it could strike and they say it can be extremely Lee
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  nauseating a like disorienting and upsetting because you
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  actually feel the emotion as well.
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  You don't just see the experience.
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  You actually feel it, which explains like why Ray was so
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  freaked out which was holding loose and Anakin you know, the
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  old story Walker. Yeah it's Anakin's.
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  Go ahead you can say Luke was just borrowing it, he had to
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  leave. So was Ray so Anywho that's the
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  trouble with psychometry, because, in dark disciple, which
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  involves Quinlan Vos and asajj Ventress and Obi-Wan there, back
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  again, anyone who hasn't read the novel, probably should skip
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  this part, but yeah, dark disciple is excellent.
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  But it shows the danger of psychometric powers because you
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  tap into that Darkness, you tap into that emotion and it can
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  actually pull you towards the dark side.
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  Mmm. You aren't skilled or even if
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  you're in a vulnerable state, which is what ends up happening
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  to couldn't Quinlan Vos, right? Does he see?
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  Is it with Ventress has lightsaber?
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  Is that how he sees? Because he sees she killed his
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  master. Yeah, yeah, they're so there
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  that's baggage, there that's the, I think one of the things
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  that kind of sends him over the edge to the dark side, is he?
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  I don't remember the exact circumstances, but I thought he
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  touched her lightsaber. And saw that she's the one who
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  killed his master and that's what makes him turn.
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  I mean, what are you doing to really fast like he does?
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  I just remember it being very quick and feeling like that
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  didn't take much. I mean this is a man who he's
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  obviously I'll say employed by the Jedi and the Republic to be
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  a Tracker because he's so skilled in it and he can
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  obviously control it enough to not allow that to happen.
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  That's why that was kind of off-putting or at least.
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  A quick like you said, this is a man who's been using the skill
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  and was trained in this skill and then like Boop.
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  Hmm. He turned he turned, I get it
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  was for the sake of the story and the love story and whatever.
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  It's amazing what he can do. And, and didn't you say, that's
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  how he found a Le Sakura. I don't know if he found her
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  with that skill, but he did. He find her on ryloth.
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  Well, he was, he was on an investigative thing for the
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  Jedi, are the republic or something and Found her in like
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  a crime Circle or a crime ring of some sort in rest.
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  Yeah, I believe was she was forced sensitive, but like,
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  didn't understand that. That's what she was.
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  So here I rescued her, I think and took her as a Padawan,
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  pretty quickly. We need to do an episode on Like
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  the quote unquote lesser known Jedi because I honestly don't
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  know the background of a lot of these other characters like Gala
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  for instance, you know what, you know, the Deep background, some
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  of them have more interesting Legends, Grunts like actually
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  quinlan's Legends background is more interesting.
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  He he is, he's from afar kif. Ooh, whatever the planet and I
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  think he's even royalty and his uncle like murdered his father
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  to take power. And yeah Quinlan was taken as an
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  older kid to the Jedi Temple. Like when he was I don't know if
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  he was 9 or not but he was older like Anakin.
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  So he was kind of like an outcast.
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  And and in Legends he and Ayla kind of have a thing.
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  See now I would expect that I would actually look at that both
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  are there was beautiful. Yeah but if you're rescuing not
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  saying like a woman needs rescued.
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  I'm not saying that what I'm saying is if you help someone
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  get out of a really bad situation, you can Bond over
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  that and with his skill he could probably sense.
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  Like maybe what the fuck? She went through and all this
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  stuff and they could bond over that.
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  There's a lot. Or that could form a good.
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  Love story. Hmm.
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  You know, over bonding but I don't think they it's implied in
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  one of the comic books and I don't know if they ever acted on
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  it, but they did imply. That they both had like feelings
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  for each other and it is no longer Canon.
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  No, she ended up with what's his name with the with the, what's
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  the smiling Guy? What's his name?
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  Who with the what the he's green.
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  He's the underwater. What's his name?
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  No kid fists. Ooh yes.
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  He's stand up together. They do.
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  Yes. In in Cannon.
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  Let me Google this. Yes, they do.
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  Skur had a brief romantic relationship but she was
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  dedicated to the Jedi Order and decided the order was more
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  important of course. But they would always be nurse
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  feelings for each other. I like that.
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  That's a nice histo saves a less secure his life by breathing for
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  her. That's one way to do it.
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  Sexy. That is how that actually is
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  fucking hot actually. Now there's other people on
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  Reddit saying they didn't, but you know what, let's just
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  believe it on Wikipedia. It says, and Wikipedia is life.
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  So anyway, this is our Holy Bible.
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  Well, so in dark disciple, he falls in love with Ventress,
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  which I enjoyed the book, like I really did.
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  I enjoyed it, but I do have trouble believing for interest
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  falling in. Love with anybody.
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  Especially a Jedi. Yes.
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  After everything, she went through, especially a Jedi.
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  Who lied to her? Yes, they like she and he I
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  don't even want to say built a And ship because she can I hated
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  him right from the beginning? I mean, well, first of all, she
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  hates everyone right from the beginning.
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  And that's why we love her spirit animal.
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  Yes, totally. She's a badass bitch, and we
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  love her for it. It's amazing.
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  But really, honestly do you want to start any relationship with a
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  lie? No, no, no, not good.
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  I don't care the circumstances. You probably just shouldn't do
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  it. Well, and she's so damaged and
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  wounded from her entire life, like, not just from what
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  happened with Dooku, but everything leading up to that.
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  So, to fall in love with a person who establishes a
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  relationship with you by lying about who they are.
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  And then she is also keeping information from him.
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  Once she finds out who he is, she doesn't want him to know
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  that she killed his master. I don't know.
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  Yeah, it's a lot. I it was a stretch for me to
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  believe it, but I had to just kind of it.
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  Fun. It was fun to imagine something
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  that we're not used to reading. I guess, we're being exposed to
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  in the Star Wars World Star Wars world.
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  Do you know how hard it is to say?
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  That six times faster? Yeah.
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  It's they don't do that kind of, there's romance, but a love
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  story. Yeah, I wanted it to be hot like
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  those two kids hot. This isn't like, Han and Leia
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  love. This is like this is reti.
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  Yeah, they would just be banging all the times it.
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  I'm Banshee ship. She has it, and I'm sorry, but
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  it's Disney. So they can't like, I can't do
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  it. Yeah, yeah.
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  I just the story. It could have been, could not be
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  told by Disney properly, really? Yes.
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  End of story. Yeah, and the end of statement
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  but we we do give more Obi-Wan in the book dealing with Voss.
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  And it's just, why does Voss decide to not be anywhere near
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  Coruscant? I mean, I know why I wouldn't
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  want to be anywhere near a corset, but is he always just
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  off doing his own thing all the time?
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  He doesn't like to be at the temple, that's for sure.
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  And make sense. That was mostly implied from his
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  Legend, So I don't know. Much of that is being pulled
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  into Canon because I haven't read all the comics or anything
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  like that, but right, they implied that because he kind of
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  came to the Jedi older, he wasn't treated that nicely by
• 22:18
  fellow students. So he just took what he learned
• 22:22
  and went out into the world and kind of used the skill to
• 22:27
  infiltrate crime because that was his cover.
• 22:31
  Yeah. They used him as a as an
• 22:33
  undercover dude which I think is super cool.
• 22:36
  I mean, I think that's great. How many?
• 22:38
  Other Jedi, do hear about that. And we see it in the hunt for
• 22:42
  zero, where he, you know, Obi-Wan is kind of doing the
• 22:44
  schmoozing, the talking, the smoothing over with the huts and
• 22:48
  he's like investigating the crime scene or looking for signs
• 22:53
  of a crime. And that's how they lead, you
• 22:55
  know, eventually to yeah row which I kind of like that's why
• 23:00
  they do so well together despite their differences Voss.
• 23:05
  Seems like he's just wandering off and not paying attention and
• 23:08
  I did but it's all an act while Obi-Wan is run an act of being
• 23:12
  interested in the huts and being the Diplomat.
• 23:16
  Yes, which means he's not a big fan of anyway but he's usually
• 23:20
  the best at it, right? So it makes sense.
• 23:23
  I mean yeah you know it's interesting too because Voss
• 23:27
  Paul's to the dark side and then is saved which is not common
• 23:33
  like Anakin is one of the few people who has achieved that So,
• 23:38
  because it happened so fast, though.
• 23:40
  The time between when he fell, and when he came back out of it
• 23:44
  was very, very fast. Yeah.
• 23:47
  And I don't know, I feel like it would have been so much more
• 23:51
  powerful if they had established more of quinlan's background.
• 23:55
  Granted, he was very heartbroken that his master was killed, that
• 24:00
  was really sad and upsetting for him.
• 24:02
  But if they'd established like maybe if it had been a three
• 24:06
  part series like a book, Three books.
• 24:09
  You have see like more of like we're quinlan's coming from
• 24:13
  because they spent so much time in the book with him and
• 24:16
  Ventress working on trying to get him in touch with the dark
• 24:21
  side and using strength and passion.
• 24:23
  But then he fell like really quick to Dooku.
• 24:26
  I don't know, it wasn't balanced and like that to me, it's like
• 24:30
  if they had more time with him in the in the dark side with
• 24:34
  Dooku, that could have been so much more interesting.
• 24:37
  But that was like a Side plot. Yeah.
• 24:40
  Kind of yeah. Yeah.
• 24:41
  I agree. Yeah.
• 24:43
  And it was interesting that they also throw Obi-Wan's perspective
• 24:48
  in there because he knows what he's asking.
• 24:51
  Quinlan to do is write all totally knew it from the
• 24:54
  beginning, that not only are they using Quinlan?
• 24:56
  They're using Ventress and why? Well he has first-hand
• 24:59
  experience with that woman, right?
• 25:02
  He knows and again with her. He even even though they are all
• 25:07
  there at each other the way Way that he and Quinlan are.
• 25:09
  And I think it's because there is that I think by then they had
• 25:12
  an established respect like not a friendship by any means but at
• 25:18
  least like an understanding that she had kind of gone off on her
• 25:22
  own. She wasn't Dooku yakky anymore.
• 25:24
  Yeah and they didn't have to really fear her kind of working
• 25:29
  against them she was kind of neutral but just very angry
• 25:34
  neutral. Bitter jaded, right?
• 25:37
  And rarely tray Leti. Was that she hated them all?
• 25:40
  Yes. Equal.
• 25:43
  Which is still neutral. Yes, but the enemy of my enemy
• 25:49
  is my friend. Almost is Ventress, has kind of
• 25:53
  a. My I think that's even like the
• 25:57
  little tagline at the beginning of Revenge or something.
• 25:59
  So, there you go. Oh yeah, it is.
• 26:02
  Oh my God. It is yeah.
• 26:04
  Oh, I didn't think of that until now.
• 26:05
  Now, look at that. It was ingrained it penetrated.
• 26:08
  Our subconscious corruption in the Senate.
• 26:17
  Yeah. Look at that.
• 26:27
  We just did the intro to the whole damn thing.
• 26:33
  Do we watch? We watch so much so much.
• 26:38
  Oh my gosh. And I just watched this hunt 40
• 26:42
  right before we record it. So, it's fresh in my brain.
• 26:45
  Yeah, I just watched and or, and that's fresh in my brain.
• 26:48
  And I'm not, well, no, we need it.
• 26:51
  We need a support group for Yes, States is getting intense.
• 26:56
  Stay tuned everyone. We will announce a support group
• 26:59
  because it is getting to that point, it's needed.
• 27:02
  Yeah, yeah. But in the interest of keeping
• 27:07
  things light, that's why we decided to talk about this mess.
• 27:11
  Whoo, we love dearly, we love them.
• 27:13
  I I would love to see them go clubbing together.
• 27:20
  Oh my God, it would be so funny if that's The only person I'll
• 27:25
  be one would ever agree to go clubbing with?
• 27:27
  I honestly think it would be. Don't do do I do just like that
• 27:32
  weird. Like I'm going to allow myself
• 27:34
  to be this way because it's him. Yeah because clearly doesn't
• 27:38
  care what he is. No and he's gonna kill me.
• 27:40
  What's up tight? He teases him, but he lets them
• 27:43
  be uptight, and it's just like, that's his thing that I know
• 27:45
  that. So, be was Jam.
• 27:47
  Yeah, so if he lets loose, he also knows the quinlan's.
• 27:53
  Not going to care. He's - catfish spread, rumors or
• 27:56
  anything. He's just gonna enjoy the
• 27:58
  moment. Yes, you know, I would love to
• 28:01
  have see, okay, take picture it Sicily, no picture it instead of
• 28:07
  Anakin so Golden Girls raw, Flint's reference for anyone.
• 28:11
  Who knows going girls, oh my God, I love Golden Girl.
• 28:16
  So picture it instead of Obi-Wan and Anakin at Hondo.
• 28:20
  Ohnaka is like bar or like here. A little, you know, whatever you
• 28:26
  here. Yes.
• 28:28
  It would be Vos and Kenobi. Quinlan would have been up
• 28:33
  there, dancing with that person. Yes.
• 28:35
  And then Obi-Wan would make that, oh, God face.
• 28:38
  That he made, that's how I envisioned it.
• 28:42
  That's my head Canon. Oh my God, you need to write
• 28:45
  this fig. Okay, I'm on it.
• 28:50
  That's how our friendship started.
• 28:51
  You wrote ob1 in a bar. Our, yes, yes.
• 28:54
  And hot things happened, not at the bar, but after the book was
• 28:58
  good, it was good. Shit.
• 29:00
  Yeah, look at your eyes. She's dang glazed over for a
• 29:04
  minute. Sorry, it's just reminiscing.
• 29:09
  It was a good moment I enjoyed it.
• 29:13
  Okay. So yes, the tires background
• 29:17
  Quinlan is mentioned in the Kenobi series, he is and all
• 29:23
  they left us hanging. Why did they choose him?
• 29:26
  I know especially if they have no intention of doing season
• 29:30
  two. Why the fuck would they do that
• 29:33
  to us? All?
• 29:36
  Of all of them, we know vas. Made it out, I mean now, but I
• 29:41
  think it's great that he's a part of that underground like
• 29:45
  tunnel escaped Underground, Railroad, whatever you want to
• 29:48
  ask. Yeah.
• 29:50
  And the hope and Obi-Wan when he recognized that it was VAs on
• 29:55
  the wall or the advice had gone through there.
• 29:58
  I mean that must have filled his heart with.
• 30:01
  Yeah. Just and what an unlikely person
• 30:05
  to fill. All his heart with that kind of,
• 30:07
  you know, they have their differences.
• 30:10
  There's so opposite but they worked well together and they
• 30:13
  grew up together. Technically maybe that's why
• 30:16
  they chose Quinlan Vos. I mean it's a good choice and
• 30:21
  he's such a perfect character. Like I would love the idea of
• 30:25
  now from now until a new, hope that Obi-Wan and Quinlan are out
• 30:29
  guests are finding each other and doing things together.
• 30:32
  And yes. Oh my God, that makes me so
• 30:34
  happy. The You think too that I kind of
• 30:38
  just realizing it's did, you know Vos was on Tatooine when in
• 30:45
  the prion, yes, what didn't he? Yeah, in the background.
• 30:50
  Yes, if know what the city is, but when Qui-Gon finds Anakin,
• 30:54
  they're walking down the street and I think it's jar, jar gets
• 30:58
  into a fight with somebody and Quinlan is sitting there.
• 31:02
  Yeah, and it's Cannon now like it's actually he was there on a
• 31:05
  mission. Ian.
• 31:06
  And they said that he bore witness yes to Qui-Gon finding
• 31:11
  Anakin and now he's still alive. One of The Last Jedi to still be
• 31:15
  alive. While Obi-Wan and Anakin or
• 31:18
  having this. Yeah.
• 31:19
  The moment in the show and then they mentioned Quinlan.
• 31:23
  I just think it's kind of cool that they book ended, the story
• 31:26
  with him, just hovering in the background, like a creeper.
• 31:33
  The only way he would he would have it though.
• 31:37
  He wants to stay out of that diplomatic shit.
• 31:39
  Okay, nobody drama has been tempted but drink in the back of
• 31:43
  the bar and not be bothered. That's it.
• 31:45
  He just wants to watch it all. Play out from a safe distance.
• 31:49
  It's Temple. Life is not for him for many
• 31:51
  reasons, and maybe this is it. He knew.
• 31:54
  Maybe he could sense. Shit was coming down the pike.
• 31:57
  You know what I mean? Could be.
• 31:59
  Yeah. You never know, especially if he
• 32:01
  had already had a brush with the dark side.
• 32:04
  Maybe he was more attuned to it. I wanted to give it a wide
• 32:07
  berth, true. I would love to see more stories
• 32:12
  with Obi-Wan and Quinlan. Now I'd be very, because I think
• 32:16
  it might not be so depressing. They're funny together.
• 32:20
  I was really hoping he'd show up in the show Once they might
• 32:23
  know. I, I did to like even if it was
• 32:26
  just a creeper but like buttocks, I would have accepted
• 32:30
  it but it gives me joy to know that their Three didn't end
• 32:37
  badly, his and Obi-Wan's. Yeah, he was an old friend.
• 32:42
  They went through shit together. They went on missions together,
• 32:44
  they trained and grew up and did whatever that made them, the
• 32:48
  mess that they are together. But that respect is there and
• 32:52
  the hope you and portrayed it perfectly.
• 32:55
  Like that's, that's surprise and like, oh, thank God, he made it
• 33:00
  kind of that overwhelming. Like who And then the
• 33:04
  realization like oh my God, he made it, you know like all of
• 33:07
  that wrapped into one and I was happy as a fan to know that he
• 33:12
  made it. Yeah even though he has very
• 33:14
  little screen time. Quote-unquote sure.
• 33:18
  He's still like one of my favorite Jedi because he's so
• 33:21
  interesting and he's kind of stereotypical.
• 33:25
  Yeah he's kind of like and maybe this is why he's so good with
• 33:30
  Obi-Wan. He's kind of like, Qui gonn.
• 33:33
  In his rebellious nastas, they're not the same, you know,
• 33:38
  there's some ways that they're very similar in some ways where
• 33:40
  they're really different but maybe they're similar enough.
• 33:42
  The like all moan was already. I know how to deal with this
• 33:46
  bullshit ER e because my master was this equal pain in the ass,
• 33:53
  he just knows how to deal with it.
• 33:55
  I don't know. I love that.
• 33:56
  I do I do because I think I'll be wants the kind of person who
• 34:01
  sees certain Things in certain people and he's aware enough and
• 34:06
  nostalgic enough. And heartfelt enough, that he
• 34:09
  would cease the spirit of Qui-Gon in someone, or the
• 34:13
  spirit of Anakin, even after he was, you know, long gone.
• 34:16
  He saw it in Luke and Leia are or pad me, you know, stuff like
• 34:20
  that. I think he's the kind of
• 34:21
  heartfelt dude that appreciates moments like that.
• 34:24
  So I totally can see him seeing something in Quinlan that, you
• 34:29
  know, allowed him a little bit of patience to deal with.
• 34:33
  That, you know, that, you know, all of that.
• 34:38
  It's this whole package, the whole town.
• 34:41
  It's a nice package to no complaints.
• 34:44
  He wears his armor. Well, well, the hunt 40 made us
• 34:47
  fall in love with Quinlan Vos and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
• 34:50
  And to this day, still one of our favorites.
• 34:53
  Yeah, they bicker like, I'm an old married couple and I loved
• 34:59
  every second of it, the same, same girl.
• 35:09
  Our question for you this week, what is your favorite line from
• 35:13
  the hunt 40 episode? There are so many good ones to
• 35:17
  make from Eddie. They're all amazing.
• 35:20
  What's your favorite one? O the somebody lives here but
• 35:26
  it's just classic. What's yours?
• 35:30
  I was going to say the Thousand pardons Madam hasn't mastered
• 35:35
  the concept of knocking out I guess he doesn't say that right
• 35:37
  to him but it's good. No but it's right there it's
• 35:41
  already has her name. Think the concept of knock
• 35:44
  you're right what an uncouth. It's great though.
• 35:55
  Tell us your favorite line because we will see here all day
• 35:57
  and talk about Arts. Someone stop us.
• 36:03
  Okay. Next week we have a treat.
• 36:06
  In fact, the next two episodes. It's a two-parter get to know
• 36:12
  your host of most things Kenobi. Now, here's what we're going to
• 36:15
  do. Next week, I'm going to
• 36:17
  interview my space twin Lauren and I'm going to ask her a wide
• 36:23
  berth of Questions all about her and whatever she allows me to
• 36:27
  ask. So yeah.
• 36:29
  And you'll get to know more about my dearest space twin and
• 36:33
  your host co-host of most things Kenobi.
• 36:38
  My dearest. Lauren the following week you'll
• 36:40
  be doing that to me. Yes.
• 36:43
  Could I return the favor? Yes.
• 36:46
  Yeah. In the past, we've had people
• 36:48
  write in questions to get to know us.
• 36:49
  At this time. We thought would be fun of we
• 36:51
  interviewed each other because yeah.
• 36:54
  Yeah, who knows? And if we're not telling each
• 36:57
  other, the questions ahead of time.
• 36:59
  Oh no. This is gonna be a mess too.
• 37:02
  We have no right to talk about Quinlan Vos and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
• 37:05
  Okay, I wish I was his together as Quinlan fall.
• 37:10
  Exactly. So come back next week and the
• 37:13
  following week because it's bound to be some kind of show,
• 37:18
  possibly a shit show. Exactly.
• 37:19
  So, see you next week last week. On the show, we reviewed tales
• 37:26
  of the Jedi and we asked our listeners.
• 37:27
  What their thoughts were about this miniseries.
• 37:30
  McKenna on YouTube said, the show was overall pretty good.
• 37:34
  I love the in-depth detail throughout each of the episodes.
• 37:37
  My favorite episode was the fifth with Ahsoka straining.
• 37:40
  I love the symbolism and the training and the hinting at
• 37:43
  Order 66 for fans that watch the Clone Wars seen breathtaking
• 37:47
  show just very heartbreaking to watch.
• 37:50
  I can I totally agree, it was beautifully done.
• 37:54
  But it was very heavy, very dark.
• 37:58
  It didn't leave us with that. Warm fuzzy feeling that we are
• 38:00
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• 38:03
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• 38:06
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• 38:09
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