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SHOCK CCTV: BEAUTY QUEEN KADA SUSPECT STALKS 1ST VICTIM: 'GO AWAY BI*CH' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Shocking close Circuit TV reveals
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  Speaker 1: the beauty queen Kata suspect stalking his first victim. That
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  Speaker 1: is his first victim that we know of. As you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Penn State grad slash beauty queen has gone missing
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  Speaker 1: from her workplace where she worked at a ritzy living
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  Speaker 1: assisted home. You're gonna hear a lot tonight. The car
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  Speaker 1: has been found in the last hours. That gold Toyota
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  Speaker 1: camery driven by suspect Kean King has been found and
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  Speaker 1: the search leaves us to an abandoned middle school, the
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  Speaker 1: Ada Lewis Middle School, joining us live tonight. An investigative
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  Speaker 1: reporter on the story from the beginning CBS is Joe
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  Speaker 1: and I mean to see Grace. This is Crime Stories,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Kada? You know she had the overnight shift.
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  Speaker 1: She just collected in and it suddenly believes she had
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  Speaker 1: never done anything like that before. Where is Kada? Guys?
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  Speaker 1: So much happening in the search for Kada Scott, the
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  Speaker 1: Miss USA hopeful who represented her area. Not only is
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  Speaker 1: she beauty, she's brains. Could she think her way out
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  Speaker 1: of this kidnapping? According to l E Law enforcement. They
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  Speaker 1: say they believe she could still be alive, and that
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  Speaker 1: is why tonight's broadcast is so important. Let me give
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  Speaker 1: you the tip line right now. It's two one five
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  Speaker 1: six eighty six tips t ips two one five six
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  Speaker 1: eight six eight four seven seven. Look at her? Look
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  Speaker 1: at her? Is she still alive? Can we bring her
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  Speaker 1: home to her parents? Her dad now putting up a
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand dollar reward in connection to evidence leading to
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  Speaker 1: her whereabouts. First of all, I hardly know where to start.
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  Speaker 1: Creeper's chavalance video emerges of him stalking. We think his
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  Speaker 1: first victim could have been his fifth victim for all
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  Speaker 1: I know. But first of all, want to tell you
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  Speaker 1: about the car. This has been the focus of the
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  Speaker 1: search of LA law enforcement since she went missing. Let's
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the recovery of the car. As
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  Speaker 1: you know, guys, this is for our friends at six
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  Speaker 1: ABC Philly. In this it looks a little silver, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually gold with heavily tinted windows. An anonymous tip
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  Speaker 1: leads police to this. It's a treasure trove of evidence.
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  Speaker 1: If law enforcement believing that Kada was in this car,
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  Speaker 1: God forbid, we find blood. I do not want to
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  Speaker 1: find blood. I'm happy to find fingerprints. I'm happy to
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  Speaker 1: find any other belongings of hers. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: find her torn clothes or blood in that car. I
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  Speaker 1: want to quickly go to what we are learning about,
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  Speaker 1: not only the car, but physical evidence. Guys. In addition
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  Speaker 1: to physical evidence that is mounting, we have obtained CCTV
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  Speaker 1: closed circuit TV. It looks like a ring camera of
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  Speaker 1: the defendant. We told you about a prior attack where
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  Speaker 1: he strangled another woman, another woman who we've been told
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  Speaker 1: looks very similar to Kada. That's what we call in
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  Speaker 1: the law a similar transaction, and it can be admitted
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  Speaker 1: before a jury after emotion in lemit a hearing outside
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  Speaker 1: the jury presence, if the judge rules your way, because
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  Speaker 1: while he wouldn't be being tried for that, it can
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  Speaker 1: show motive, course of conduct, frame of mind. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: would you like to see this? At your back door window?
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  Speaker 1: Take a look, go away.
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  Speaker 2: Don't come over here, kidd a quart cups?
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm?
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  Speaker 1: Is all these kidding here? Caught of cops? Keep coming
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  Speaker 1: around the window.
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  Speaker 3: Go that way, camera, Yeah, go away, bye go way, bye,
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  Speaker 3: yep bye bye.
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  Speaker 1: Ken I know here. That is where I'm at as
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  Speaker 1: for or lsec on TikTok. Just so you know, he
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  Speaker 1: did not go away. Kean King, that's him, goes to
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  Speaker 1: every door and every window of that female victim's home.
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  Speaker 1: I want to look at it on me. Okay, here
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  Speaker 1: is he jumped over the fence to get to her.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't coming to the front door with candy and roses.
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  Speaker 1: He's jumping the fence and look, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see that out my window. First thing in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: He's going door to door. And what breaks my heart
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  Speaker 1: is you hear look at that. There's children, there's toys.
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  Speaker 1: She has children in there, and she's saying, call the cops,
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  Speaker 1: Call the cops, Call the cops. She knows to be afraid.
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  Speaker 1: When my husband has been locked out and I go
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  Speaker 1: to let him in, I don't run from the door.
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  Speaker 1: I don't scream call the cops because I'm not afraid.
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  Speaker 1: This woman is afraid. Don't come over here, Cameron, call
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  Speaker 1: the cops. She is telling I think the children to
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  Speaker 1: call nine to one one because she knows what this
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  Speaker 1: guy will do. And that tells me and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: Veteran defense attorney Derek Smith joining us is going to disagree,
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  Speaker 1: But that tells me this is not the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Why is she so afraid? Why is she afraid? Derek Smith,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna circle back to you, guys. That is from
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  Speaker 1: at S four LCC on TikTok, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you a few moments to gather your thoughts, because
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  Speaker 1: first I'm going to go to Joe Holden. Joe Holden,
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  Speaker 1: she investigative reporter and anchor CBS neiece Philly. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for waiting, Joe, because I know you're dying to get
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  Speaker 1: back out into the field right now. Did you see
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  Speaker 1: the video?
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  Speaker 2: There's something so off about that video.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, we tracked down that house just yesterday on
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  Speaker 4: the streets in North Philadelphia. What is that stats? What
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  Speaker 4: is that body language? What is happening is eyes come
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  Speaker 4: up to that window, and my colleagues in our newsroom
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  Speaker 4: are actually quite terrifying. We know a lot about his
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  Speaker 4: alleged prior bad acts. At this point, he assaulted the
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  Speaker 4: same victim in this incident here. We believe this to
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  Speaker 4: be January. He assaulted the same woman in November. We
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  Speaker 4: were able to uncover traces of charges. Now those charges
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  Speaker 4: are hidden from a view on our our docket system,
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  Speaker 4: something about clean slate business.
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  Speaker 2: But this happens in November.
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  Speaker 1: Yahoo, WHOA, whoa, Joe Holden, what did you just say
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  Speaker 1: about a clean slate?
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  Speaker 4: So we can't get at the charges that were leveled
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  Speaker 4: against this guy, Kean King back in December of twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty four, as well as an incident that happened in
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  Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty five. The case brought in April
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  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five gets this withdrawn dismissed, however you
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  Speaker 4: want to phrase it.
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  Speaker 2: In May of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: Guess why we can see these records now, Nancy, because
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  Speaker 4: the District Attorney's office has refiled the charges in light
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  Speaker 4: of their ongoing kidnapping prosecution now and search for Kata Scott.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like the toothpaste is getting squeezed back into
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  Speaker 4: the tube at this point, if that's even the right
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  Speaker 4: way to describe their actions. And the clean slate law
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  Speaker 4: has prohibited our ability to see some of the charges.
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  Speaker 2: But because okay, that.
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  Speaker 1: Is so wrong, that is so wrong. Why should you
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  Speaker 1: get he has been stalking these young women hiding behind
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  Speaker 1: the clean slate policy. Guys that video from at S
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  Speaker 1: four LCC on TikTok and another thing. The woman, one
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  Speaker 1: of the women that he assaulted in the past, has
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  Speaker 1: issued a comment on social media saying, I hope they
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  Speaker 1: put you basically under the jail after all you've done,
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  Speaker 1: after all the the hurt youth. Cause I'm gonna pull
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  Speaker 1: it up for you just a moment. But that tells
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  Speaker 1: me while don't show me Derek Smith yet. While Derek
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  Speaker 1: Smith is not gonna like it that there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of similar transactions, that's certainly putting perfume on the
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  Speaker 1: pig back there. There are other women out there that
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  Speaker 1: are rejoicing he is behind bars for kidnapping Cada. Why
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  Speaker 1: because he has got a history of violating, tormenting, stalking, torturing,
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  Speaker 1: scaring women. I want to look at that video. Oh yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: not him. I want to look at that video because
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  Speaker 1: I want to know what can it prove? What is
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  Speaker 1: the probative value one A six foot fence is not
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  Speaker 1: going to stop him. A jump drive over like Spider
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  Speaker 1: Man and here he comes looking you know, that's a
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  Speaker 1: good way to get shot right there. But he's not afraid.
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  Speaker 1: He knows Shu's inside A woman and little children, so hey,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and terrorize her. He's not worried. And you
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  Speaker 1: see the camera all jumpany because she's running to WNDA
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  Speaker 1: to WNDA, saying go away, go away, and he's not leaving.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody told me when I went to
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  Speaker 1: their front door, go away, I would be gone. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see nothing but tail hole and elbows. I'm out. But
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  Speaker 1: nothing is stopping him, not a fence, not a locked door,
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  Speaker 1: not a closed window. If Kata Scott was in that car,
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  Speaker 1: what would he do to her? This from at S
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  Speaker 1: four LCC on TikTok. Guys, I'm gonna circle back to
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  Speaker 1: what this video means, but I want to quickly go
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  Speaker 1: you know what, Let's keep running it to see what
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  Speaker 1: else we can learn. Did she actually go to that
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  Speaker 1: window and lock it? Joining me right now is a
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  Speaker 1: long time colleague and dare I say friend, Cheryl McCollum.
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  Speaker 1: She is a forensic expert. She is the director of
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  Speaker 1: the Cold Case Investigative Research Foundation, and she is the
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  Speaker 1: star of a hit podcast series which I have often
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  Speaker 1: put on loop and listened to her Zone seven. Cheryl McCollum,
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  Speaker 1: I will very quickly remind you of the first time
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  Speaker 1: I say that we met, it was when we were
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  Speaker 1: so happy that we could give domestic violence victims their
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  Speaker 1: own cell phone. I didn't even have a cell phone,
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  Speaker 1: and they were about that big. They were huge. They
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  Speaker 1: were like a shoe box, and we were giving them out.
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  Speaker 1: The mayor at that time made a cameo appearance and
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  Speaker 1: we were giving them out in municipal court to domestic
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  Speaker 1: violence victims. That's when nobody even knew what domestic violence
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  Speaker 1: even was. That said, did you see this video? The
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  Speaker 1: reason I brought that story up is you and I
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  Speaker 1: have been fighting domestic violence for so long. This woman
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  Speaker 1: is locked in her home with her children, and she's
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  Speaker 1: screaming to the children. Call the police, Call the police,
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  Speaker 1: because she knows a window and a door are not
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  Speaker 1: going to stop him. A fency sure didn't.
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  Speaker 5: What about him, McCollum, You already said it beautifully. This
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  Speaker 5: is a pattern. He is not deterred when he is spotted.
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  Speaker 5: He's not deterred when he sees children. He's not deterred
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  Speaker 5: when he knows the police are on the way. This
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  Speaker 5: is so frightening. There is the road chance that there's
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  Speaker 5: not more victims in his twenty one years you're going
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  Speaker 5: to see a clear and distinct pattern of him stalking
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  Speaker 5: and watching.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Derek Smith. You know, Derek,
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  Speaker 1: when our same group joining us tonight were together last
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  Speaker 1: forty eight hours ago, guys us from at S four
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  Speaker 1: LCC on TikTok, we were talking about one prior where
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  Speaker 1: he attacked a woman outside her home, got forced her
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  Speaker 1: into the car, assaulted her. They haven't said whether it
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  Speaker 1: was a beating or a sex assault. We know there
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  Speaker 1: were children in the car, then threw it out of
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  Speaker 1: the car. The reason I brought that up last time,
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  Speaker 1: Derek Smith, is because it was eerily, chillingly similar to
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  Speaker 1: what we think happened to Kita, our brilliant beauty queen.
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  Speaker 1: People have been writing, why are you talking about beauty queen? Well,
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  Speaker 1: because she's beautiful on the outside and the inside, and
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  Speaker 1: a scholar had graduated with very high grades from Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: Her world in front of her. So, Derek Smith, now
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  Speaker 1: we're learning about not one, but two priors. You heard
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  Speaker 1: Joe Holdens say we can't even get the whole record
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  Speaker 1: because of some clean slate policy. So who knows what
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  Speaker 1: is lurking in his record?
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  Speaker 6: What about it, Smith, Well, Nancy, you mentioned these alleged
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  Speaker 6: acts that this man perpetrated.
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  Speaker 7: Was he convicted of.
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  Speaker 6: These crimes at all? Because if not, they're just merely allegations.
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  Speaker 6: And then watching his video of him jumping the fence, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: he walks up to the window. We didn't have a
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  Speaker 6: weapon on him. He didn't seem to be frightened or concerned.
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  Speaker 7: Why was he there?
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  Speaker 6: Would it change your perception of the video play received
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  Speaker 6: if you received a text message from the homeowner saying, hey,
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  Speaker 6: somebody's in here, come help me out, and then he
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  Speaker 6: showed up to help, you didn't seem like he.
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  Speaker 1: Was trying to make keep him locked down and call
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  Speaker 1: the police when he showed up.
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  Speaker 7: Let's get to another aspect of this.
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  Speaker 6: I mean you prosecuted domestic violence and stalking type cases before.
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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, hey, hey, hey Smith, I'm not a speed bomp.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't roll over me and keep going. I
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  Speaker 1: ask you, why did you even spin out that total
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  Speaker 1: technical legal term bs that maybe there was a text
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  Speaker 1: from the woman the victim, asking him to come help
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  Speaker 1: her with an intruder. No, she says, go away. Do
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  Speaker 1: I need to spell that out for you? She did
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  Speaker 1: not call him over. She's locking the doors in the windows?
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  Speaker 1: What what what are you saying?
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  Speaker 7: Did that look like she was very afraid?
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  Speaker 1: She walked over.
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  Speaker 7: She was right by the window.
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  Speaker 6: If she was afraid he was coming in there, why
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't she be cowering in fear calling the police.
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  Speaker 1: She's following him from window to window making sure. Look
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  Speaker 1: everybody's running. They're all running. Okay, Now can I go
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  Speaker 1: back to general?
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  Speaker 6: She's looking at him, and then he pulls out his phone,
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  Speaker 6: maybe to ask her, Hey, why aren't you answering the door?
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  Speaker 6: You called me over here, you need my help, and
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  Speaker 6: now you're not answering. We don't know any of that.
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  Speaker 6: Have we got the phone?
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  Speaker 7: Wrunckers. Have we seen any conversations between these two? We're
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  Speaker 7: jumping to conclusions here now, are we.
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  Speaker 1: She filed a criminal complaint against.
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  Speaker 7: Him, and what was he convicted?
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  Speaker 1: She became afraid and with Drew. You know what, you
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  Speaker 1: can go in and cut his mic to his face.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm going to put him in the corner
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  Speaker 1: and give him time to think about what he just said.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Jerry land Utter joining us Utter. Doctor Utter, clinical
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  Speaker 1: psychologists specializing and evaluation and risk assessments in the criminal
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  Speaker 1: justice system. Okay, I actually as much HGBL as I
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  Speaker 1: give him respect, Derek Smith. He's won a lot of cases,
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  Speaker 1: which is not easy to do because he can spin
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  Speaker 1: out these scenarios and get one Jarra on the hook
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  Speaker 1: and they believe it. What is concerning me? Let's fast
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  Speaker 1: forward from that last similar transaction we were showing one
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  Speaker 1: of I believe many to Kada. How is it that
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  Speaker 1: these people, these perps real in young women. What how
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  Speaker 1: do they fall for them? Did he force her in
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  Speaker 1: the car, because that's what he did to the other victims.
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  Speaker 1: Did he lure her in? Did he offer her I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why she was in the car. All
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  Speaker 1: I know is she's gone now after she was in
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  Speaker 1: that car.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of unknowns as far
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  Speaker 8: as you know, Kata going going willingly with him. In
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  Speaker 8: my opinion, based upon what we know and what we've
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  Speaker 8: seen about Kata and what we know about Kean, I
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  Speaker 8: don't see her as being the type of young lady
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  Speaker 8: that would willingly go anywhere with somebody like this. When
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  Speaker 8: you look at the video and you watch him and
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  Speaker 8: his and his stance, it's almost as like he's taunting
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  Speaker 8: the poor women in that video, and they're very form
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  Speaker 8: familiar with the behavior because she very clearly says it's Keon,
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  Speaker 8: so she knows, you know, who he is. She's familiar
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  Speaker 8: with the behavior, and she's she's afraid. I don't care
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  Speaker 8: what Derek says. You can clearly see that this person
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  Speaker 8: is afraid because she wants the cops called. So in
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  Speaker 8: my opinion, as far as him luring her in a
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  Speaker 8: charming way or trying to coerce her in a charming
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  Speaker 8: way to go into the vehicle or to leave with him,
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  Speaker 8: I just don't see that. Based upon some of the
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  Speaker 8: behaviors that I'm looking at in this video, and also
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  Speaker 8: through learning about Cadaen her personality, and then also some
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  Speaker 8: of the events, you know that she was scared that
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  Speaker 8: she was being harassed potentially by him. We don't know
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  Speaker 8: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: To utter utters? Can you to utter? I need you
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  Speaker 1: to comment on something. Look at the video. He jumps
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  Speaker 1: over and these tops like a superhero and then like
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  Speaker 1: points okay, I want to emphasize he jumps over and
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  Speaker 1: stops dramatic effect, you know, like a superhero lands coming
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  Speaker 1: from another gallic see and then points at the victim.
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  Speaker 1: What is that.
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  Speaker 8: He's taunting? I mean, this is a pattern of behavior.
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  Speaker 8: This is what we see with people that demonstrate predatory behavior.
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  Speaker 8: This is part of he's liking this. He's getting off
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  Speaker 8: on this.
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  Speaker 5: He jumps over.
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  Speaker 8: He kind of he looks like the Marvel hero. He
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  Speaker 8: puts his hand back and it's almost like, yeah, I'm here,
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  Speaker 8: and then he structs. If you look at the video,
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  Speaker 8: he continues to kind of have like a swagger or
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  Speaker 8: a strut. He knew exactly what he was doing, and
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  Speaker 8: it's part of the tactics. He's taunting. He's trying to
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  Speaker 8: instill fear, and he successfully does it, regardless as to
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  Speaker 8: whether or not he is somebody that's familiar to those women.
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  Speaker 8: You can see that they are afraid because they're asking
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  Speaker 8: the call the cops. They're not opening up the window
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  Speaker 8: and saying, hey, ke On, get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 8: They're afraid because they have probably experienced what's to come next,
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  Speaker 8: which is an escalation and behavior.
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  Speaker 1: At S four LCC on TikTok Joe hold and joining
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  Speaker 1: US chief investigative reporter and anchor CBS News Philly, who
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  Speaker 1: has been looking for Kada from the very beginning. You
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  Speaker 1: know what's I mean? Some of that is laughable. Jumping
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  Speaker 1: over the fence, light and landing like a superhero, but
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  Speaker 1: nothing is stopping him. Joe a fence which was over
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  Speaker 1: six feet tall, lot doors, lot windows, hurt yelling, go away, screaming,
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  Speaker 1: call police, running through the house, through children who had
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to be afraid, and he looked like he was enjoying it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Doctor Jerry len Utter was just saying that the thrill.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Was the second time he was there.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: That time I was scaring someone.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Here's the document, right, you don't really see it, but he.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Was there at twelve thirty that morning, January thirteenth of
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: He makes a whole ruckus in that backyard.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: And then same day, three point thirty in the afternoon,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: climbs the same yard fence looking into windows. We see
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: the video plane. But let me punctuate where I find
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: even more chilling detail. The mail is known to carry
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a black block and gun. He made several threats to
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: kill the complainant and a witness present. He does not
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: have an address in stays where it is available. All
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: of that detail follows the narrative that police lay out
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: in this criminal complaint where he forces this victim into
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: his car. He drives at a high rate of speed
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: with his own two year old in that car. They're
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: driving from this location in North Philadelphia down towards Center
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: City and he is choking and allegedly biting the woman
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: in the face before he dumps her at the seven
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: hundred block of Gerard Avenue. So she gets away with
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: her life. According to investigators, at.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: S fourlcc tic time, we know her.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Phone goes dead. It has not been on since. She
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: is not seen after that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: This sparkly beautiful twenty three year old woman, This.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Girl has just turned twenty three. She's a little baby tonight.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Where is Kada? There is a ten thousand dollar reward
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: for information leading to her discovery. Her parents distraught as
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you can imagine, this Penn State grad with fantastic grades
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the world in front of her goes missing from her
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: work place. A ritzy assisted living. Guys, not only have
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: we fleshed out not one, but two, and we believe
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: there are other similar transactions. Past attacks always on women,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: very often involving his vehicle, wrestling them into the car,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: strangling them. Did he allow Kada to live? I want
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to go to to other evidence that it happened overnight.
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: Hours after Philadelphia PD ask for help locating King's Toyota,
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: a resident at Gypsy Lane Condos remembers a car matching
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: that description parked in a lot.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Almost a week.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: Officers descend on the community where King's family lives, coording
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: off the parking lot to search it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: Cec information that there might be se evidence at this school.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Which is not far from the Aubadon that we have.
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: Plus Friday, acting on a tip, officers search across the
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: street at the now abandoned Ada Lewis Middle School. During
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: a grid search outside the locked building, they recover some
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: of Kata's belongings, her debit card and pink phone case.
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: Truly, after arriving out of here, we're located some physical
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: evidence which ties the shots to the Seabo C thirty
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: six A shild.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of that from our friends at CBS Philadelphia
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and from CBS Philadelphia joining us right now, anchor and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, CHEF investigative reporter who is helping in the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: search for Kata, Joe Holden. That's a lot of information.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I understand that an anonymous tip came in not only
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: about the vehicle, but about a place called Ada Lewis
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Middle School. What can you tell me, not only about that,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: how that fits in with the arboretum, which is fifty
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: six acres of nothing but trees?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: And you know what, we were at the arboretum the
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: last Friday, and then this location of this Ada Lewis
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: middle School that's.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Been shut down since two thousand and eight, felt like
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: we were in the middle of a horror movie.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Someone calls police and says, an hour after they hold
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: a news conference searching for that car and announcing the
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: arrest of Keon King, police are told you better go
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and check out the middle school. We know that police
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: have recovered two pieces of critical personal evidence tying Kada
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Scott to the property.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Of the middle school.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Once again, the middle school sitting yards away from Aubury Arboretum.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Where they searched a week ago. And then fast forward.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Now there's the middle school on your screen, and tell
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: me you're not freaked out by those pictures. Police trying
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: to devise a plan of how to go into a
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: building that's been shut down for almost twenty years, an
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: abandoned school building. I mean it has all of the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: markers of what's next in this case.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Guys, this video from our friends at six ABC Philadelphia.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: But I want to save my control room. Could please
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: send me back to the before shot of Ada Lewis
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Middle School and it's heyday and we got this off
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: their website. It was a beautiful school. But listen to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: this and the school itself.
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: We're a team entry.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: It's three floors, it's a large school.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: And see a lot of area cover where Nick Burley said.
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: The abandoned middle school where Philadelphia Police recovered physical evidence
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: placing Kata Scott there has been closed since two thousand
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: and eight. The school district still owns the graffiti covered building,
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: reportedly well secured, police having to request assistance to get inside.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: That video from CBS Philadelphia. I want to go back
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to what Joe Holden was saying about it looks like
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a horror movie, a nightmare. It's now well, it's defunct,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it has been condemned. It's an abandoned building. Now there
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it is key watch. Okay, can you imagine our Kida
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Scott in that building. This is from our friends, it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: six ABC Philly. And there you saw the lead investigator
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: in a suit walking in followed by a lot of uniforms,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and those uniforms are high level. You can tell by
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: their hats if they've got chevrons on their sleeves or
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: leafs on their collar. Him. What of Kada's Scott's belongings
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: were found and there, Joe Holden.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So we know that they are very personal in nature.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: In fact, would not be partying with these things unless
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: she was in some serious trouble police not specifying exactly what,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: but reading between the lines, perhaps something involving her cell phone,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: perhaps something involving a bank card or something connected to that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: That is Kate.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Do you is it a I've got a question, Sidney Sumner,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories, investigative reporter, Sidney, you and I were discussing
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: was it a cell phone case? Have we gotten that?
• 27:37
  Speaker 12: Unofficially yes, sorciers are saying that it was her cell
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: phone case and Keita's debit card in cell phone case.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So Joe Holden, that fits in with what you're hearing,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a cell phone case and a debit card. And I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: want to go to Brian Fitzgibbons joining us He is
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Director of Operations at USPA Nationwide Security and what he
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: does there as director is. He leads a team of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: expert investigators to find missing people all around the world
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: at USPA Security dot Com. Brian Hell would freeze over
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: before either one of my twins would part with their
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: cell phone. Do you know how much time my daughter
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: spends finding the right cell phone case? My son just
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: gets a black or a navy one? Is over No,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: because have you seen go with me on this for
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: a moment, Fitzgibbons chauffit is Gibbons in case he hasn't
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: seen it. Kaita like getting all dressed up and doing
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: her fashion videos, which, by the way, people are attacking
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: her online for and I don't get it. She was
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: such a star in these videos. She loves getting dressed up,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: matching her necklace to her purse and her shoes. She's
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a glamor girl, you know, Ryan Fitzkimms. This is where
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going that she had a special phone case. Why
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: is her phone case on the floor of the defunct
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: condemned Ada Lewis Middle School building.
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: I suspect Nancy that king ditched that cell phone case
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: there and then went on to sell the phone. And
• 29:34
  Speaker 13: I think that that will be something that comes out
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: in this investigation that he could have kept the phone
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: to sell it and wanted to get rid of the case,
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: which would have been easily identifiable. You know, I think
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: you can actually see the case there with a lot
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: of you know, it's bedazzled on the outside. We don't
• 29:54
  Speaker 13: know if that's the same case that she had at
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: the time of her disappearance, but the case would be
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: easily recognized, so that for King to do.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm understanding that Sydney, some of the items were
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: found outside that condemned building, right, so.
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: We don't believe police are saying they don't believe that
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: Scott or King made it inside the building. Police had
• 30:25
  Speaker 12: to request access themselves to get in, so this building
• 30:28
  Speaker 12: was likely well secured. So these items were found outside
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: the building. That's what police are telling us, you know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: To Cheryl McCollum, joining US, director and founder of the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute and star of Zone seven hit podcast, Cheryl,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the last time, I mean you and I have covered well,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: we didn't cover them, we investigated them. It's hard for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: me to think I'm looking at Kata right now, Cheryl,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see your monitor, It's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: hard for me to imagine her at this condemned building.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But Cheryl, you and I investigated a lot of cases.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Whenever I hear abandoned building in connection to a case,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Cherlott brings back some really bad memories of cases you
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and I investigated. Why is she at an abandoned building.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: One hundred so criminals know where there are no people
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and no cameras. So it's not a surprise to me
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: with his patterned background that he knew about this abandoned
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: school where he discarded her personal belongings. Her belongings that
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: are at that abandoned school. Does her bank card have
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: this fingerprint? Is his DNA on the phone case? Anything
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: that can tie him to those belongings is what law
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: enforcement is looking for now.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Keon King, he is charged with Kita's kidnapping.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Put some heat on him to question him as to
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: where Kita is. Find this girl?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Where was he? Where had he been? Is he keeping
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: her alive somewhere? Where is Kata? Tip line two on
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: five six eight six tips repeat two and five six
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: eight six eight four seven seven l E law enforcement
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: insisting they believe she may still be alive. Where is she? Overnight?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: We learn that not one but two cases of assault
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: on women that looks similar to Kata Scott that involve
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: his vehicle, and alleged strangulation have occurred. That's two that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we know of. Also the car found, But where, why there?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And what can we learn about the car? Straight back
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: out to chief investigative reporter and anchor CBS News Philadelphia,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Joe Holden, tell me about the car, and I'd like
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to see the video of that aerial video of the vehicle.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe, let me give you the timeline.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: So police hold a press conference at ten thirty, ask
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: everyone to look for that car, and then by twelve
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: thirty they're back at that middle school that looks just
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: plain scary. And then at three ten in the afternoon,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: So four hours after, four or five hours after their
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: press conference, someone says, I saw that car parked on
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: the four thousand block of Gypsy Lane, in a street
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: that essentially dead ends at Lincoln Drive. If you're familiar,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I know Nancy lived in Chestnut Hill for a time.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Someone had to have their eyes open.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: They saw it. They called Philadelphia Police.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Phildelphia police leave Ada Lewis Middle School and rush over
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: to the four thousand block of Gypsy Lane where the
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: car is parked. There is obviously, as you've said, a
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: potential wealth of evidence in that car. My investigative sources
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: say they are looking for DNA inside the car and
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: inside the truck.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know another thing that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: happened overnight. Joe Holden joining us from CBS. Philly prosecutors
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: say that they made a quote mistake by not following
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: through with the earlier charges. Well, that's a day late
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and a dollar short. They tried to blame it on
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the victim for an FTA failure to appear. When a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: woman doesn't show up in a domestic, okay, this is
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: what you do. Back me up on this, doctor Jerlyn
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Utter joining us, Doctor Utter, when a woman doesn't show
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: up on an FTA and a domestic, you go find
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: her because in my experience, by the time I got them,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of course, they weren't just a slap or pushing somebody over.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: They were full on felony, if not a murder. You
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: go find them, and you prosecute that case, and you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: make it clear to the defendant she wants to drop charges,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: don't take it out on her. I'm prosecuting you. Sob
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: That's usually the way I would handle it, and it worked,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but they didn't. So now they're kind of saying like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: she didn't come to court, so we dropped it. No,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: go get her.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: I mean, go get her for sure, Nancy. But the
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: other thing too. I mean, this is obviously a victim
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: of a serious crime. She was hurt by this man.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: She's afraid of this man, so it does make sense.
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: I mean victims, they become afraid.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Right, afraid of retaliation. Cheryl McCollum. Hold on, let me
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: pick up right there from what doctor Utter just said.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I want to get back to the car
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and off the victims shaming aspect. This car could be
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a treasure trove. We're also learning in addition to her
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: debit card and phone case, so we've heard rumors that
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: an ipay case in Kata's glasses were found in that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: abandoned school. Now connection it's near the arboretum. But to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the car, somebody let him into the parking lot. You
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: have to be allowed in. This is near where his
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: family lives. Go ahead, what can we learn from the car.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: There's two categories.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at Nancy in that vehicle. The first one,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: anything that I can tie the victim to. Can I
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: put that victim in that vehicle. I'm looking for blood, hair, fingerprints,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: anything that belongs to the victim, clothing, if there was
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: a struggle, did a shoe come off, anything, an earring.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: The second category is going to be something that was
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: used in the commission of that crime. Is there a
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: weapon or there restraints, notes, drawings, a hotel room key,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: a receipt, did he buy food for the two of them,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: anything where I can say, hey, this is unusual. One
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: of the best things we have right now is he
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: has not reported that car stolen.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, just like in the case of Celeste in D
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: four v. D aka David Anthony Burke, who never reported
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: his Tesla stolen or missing, and then Celeste's body was
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in the trunk. Yes, that raises a red flag. The
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: car wasn't stolen. He didn't report it stolen. Cheryl McCallum,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: have you ever watched if you don't do it yourself,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: have you ever watched somebody change your oil in your vehicle? Yes? No, yes, Okay.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: They will take this car, this Toyota Camery, and they
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: will put it up like they're changing the oil and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to look hundred for blood. Just like in
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the case of Nicky Chen they found the undercarriage of
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: her truck saturated in blood, but you have to put
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it up and look. They're going to get soil off
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the tires. Will it help Maybe not, because that car
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: has been many miles since Katea went missing. They're going
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to go through it with a vack, a VAC that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: is relatively a new technique to pull up DNA invisible
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to the naked eye, over the carpet, over the floor mats,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: over the seats. It can pull up DNA that you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: can't see, such as blood. You might see that. They're
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: going to look for sweat. Let me remind you of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the case of Teresa Holback, the photographer who was last
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: seen at the home of killer Steven Avery. When they
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: found her car hidden at the back of a salvage lot.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: It had his sweat DNA over the ignition where he
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: was sweating trying to crank her car up to go
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: hide it. He's convicted. They're going to let for sweat, blood,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: hair fibers. Then they're going to illuminoll the whole thing
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: looking for iron oxide that shows up under an ultraviolet
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: luminol light, Fingerprints, clothing, anything, a shee, a shoe, lice,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a bracelet, a ring, a hairclip. That's what's happening in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: that car right now. Agree or disagree? Pasgibbers.
• 39:34
  Speaker 13: Absolutely agree, Nancy, and you know you brought up Nikki
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: Chang Sale McCain. Let's hope that this investigation is done
• 39:44
  Speaker 13: meticulously because as we know, and we hope and pray
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: that Cada.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Is found alive.
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: But we want to make sure that if there needs
• 39:53
  Speaker 13: to be a prosecution for a homicide, that this is
• 39:56
  Speaker 13: done correctly.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Right now, plays, don't put the car before the horse.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Let's try to find her alive. Imagine my shock late
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: last night when I was reading comments online looking for
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: any information about Kata and I saw this. These young
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: girls and women need to stop doing these things, exposing
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: themselves to evil, modeling, pagets, cheerleading, any social media. Okay,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: so I guess that's what I was doing as a
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: high school cheerleader when I didn't make the basketball team.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Are they crazy? I read another one that says I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: tried to watch crime stories, but I had to stop
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: at thirteen thirty seven. I was tired of watching Kada
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Scott prancing around. I don't understand that two special guests
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: joining us. Joe Holden, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: News Philly. The degree of victim blaming is intense. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you know what, it's just like this. I want to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: see Joe, but I want to see Cada prancing. She's gorgeous,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: she's twenty three. She's a baby girl playing in makeup.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: She just turned twenty three. All right, that is happening, Joe.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: How did she turn into the bad person.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He is not?
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: And you know what, let me give you some hope
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: for at least the corner of our world.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Here in Philadelphia.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I have an entire city I'm aware of looking for
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: any sign of this girl. So let the haters live
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: online and in social media. But there is a five
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: thousand and six thousand member Philadelphia Police Department, at District
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Attorney's office, and people like me and you looking out
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  Speaker 4: and trying to get to the bottom of this really
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  Speaker 4: nauseating mystery.
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  Speaker 1: Derek Smith, veteran trial lawyer, won a lot of cases
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  Speaker 1: at d devismith Legal dot com. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it, but we have to hear it. If this
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  Speaker 1: case goes to trial, Derek, you know what you're going
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  Speaker 1: to do? What will the defense to do, because the
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  Speaker 1: state's got to be ready not just with their case,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: but to destroy the defense case. So where would you
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  Speaker 1: go on.
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  Speaker 7: This well, I mean on the defense side of things.
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  Speaker 6: If there's no physical evidence, if they don't find anything
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  Speaker 6: outside that school, if they don't find anything inside the car,
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: how are they really going to connect the victim to
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: the alleged perpetrator.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they have that other.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Video and you said, like transactions, similar alleged events that
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: he's done with other similar victims, but again never convicted
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  Speaker 6: of any of these things. It's just speculation at this point.
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  Speaker 6: So I mean, they're going to really have to do,
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: like one of our other panelists said, a very particulous
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: search of this vehicle, do anything they can to try
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: to find evidence, whether it's you know, like you said,
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: the blood, the sweat, anything to connect the two of
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: them in this gold Corolla being together. Because without any
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: physical evidence, we're just looking at circumstantial evidence and that's
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: not going to be enough.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: How can there be hatred for this girl who is missing?
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  Speaker 1: All things bright and beautiful. That is Kata Scott, god
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  Speaker 1: willing Phillip d brings her home alive again. The tip
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  Speaker 1: line two one five, six eight six tips two one
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  Speaker 1: five six, eight six eight four seven seven. Tonight we
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  Speaker 1: remember American heroes, people that put their lives on the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: line to come forward. If prosecutors had gone and gotten
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the first two victims and they had testified without fear,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Kada would be alive today joining us tonight detailing
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: how she outsmarted her kidnapper. That did not happen, But tonight,
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  Speaker 1: I want to honor all the stalking, the battery, the beating,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the rape victims that do come forward, even if they're
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: afraid win or lose. We saw what happened in the
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Seawan Combs case. A win is not guaranteed, but they
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: fight the good fight tonight. They are our heroes. Please
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: join us in prayer for the safe return of this girl,
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  Speaker 1: Bright and beautiful Kata Scott. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,