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UK Column News Podcast 3rd May 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. It's Friday, the third of May twenty twenty four, just
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after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News. I'm your host Puck Romson
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joining me in the studio today, Ben Rubin, Welcome to the program.
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Ben and Debbie Evans by remote access as usual. But we're going to start
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very quickly, just a very brief comment on the election. We'll just use
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the BBC to put the statistics up. Those were the statistics that were available
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just before we came on air. And well the Liberal Party claiming that they've
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won all kinds of landslide victories. Well the Tories may have lost one hundred
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and twenty six council seats according to this particular statistic, but Liberal only one
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fifty two. I think it's significant. Ben, at thirty nine. Independence
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have won thirty nine new seats. I think that's pretty that's pretty good,
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and we would like to encourage more Independence to stand whenever they finally or if
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they stand, call the general election. Anyway, I don't think there's any
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more to be said about that at this stage. If there any results for
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the Police and Crime Commissioners, no doubt will report that on Monday. But
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those haven't been They have not been announced just yet. But look, I
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wanted to comment on this article from the Daily Meal. The headline here is
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Astroseneka has admitted its COVID vaccine caused the condition that killed Gareth's BBC presenter wife.
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So why won't he and their son see a penny in compensation? And
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well, first of all, it's being described as an exclusive, and because
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as exclusive, maybe they've hidden it behind the Mail Plus paywall. But nonetheless,
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this is about a guy called Gareth Eve and his wife who was a
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BBC journalist called Lisa Shaw. Lisa passed away following vaccination with astrosenica. But
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you know, this article, I have to say, is an absolute disgrace
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of Daily Meal, is an absolute disgrace. The entire manstream media is an
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absolute disgrace. And the thing is why do I say this? Well for
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two reasons. First of all, they've covered this story, but they haven't
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covered in any detail at all the thousands of injured or dead as a result
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of the jabs. But then there's this little detail from further on down the
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article. It says, while others, including one man who died in the
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same hospital ward as Lisa in the same week from exactly the same reactions to
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the vaccine could be in line for compensation payments if they went in quote Gareth
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Eve will not and they quote him as saying it's because of a technicality,
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a loophole. I'm devastated. I feel completely abandoned all over again. It
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actually takes me back to just after Lisa died, when I was in that
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state of feeling utterly alone, thinking well, what now. And so the
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basis of this is that he has been excluded from this class action because it
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has turned out that following or after the seventh of April twenty twenty one,
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and with the approval of the MHRA, a warning about the risk of thrombodic
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complications was added by Astroseneka to the patient information leaflet, or at least was
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sent to healthcare professionals. And I think it is absolutely disgraceful now that the
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Meal is attempting to raise money through their Meal plus paywall by highlighting this fact
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when it was the Meal in particular, along with all the other mainstream media
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organizations that were denying the possibility of these complications at the time and since and
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Debbie So I find this really cynical, actually, this entire article. I'm
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pleased that Gareth, even his issue is being given some publicity, but nonetheless,
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lots of other vaccine injured not getting any publicity. And the Meal has
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some questions answer, but it's the fact that it did not highlight these complications
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at the time. Yeah, one hundred percent, Good afternoon everyone. I
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mean, the mail has got a lot of questions to ask, but so
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has everybody else, got a lot of questions to ask. And let's just
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remember Sa Pascal Sorrio AstraZeneca, Errakata, astrakata. But also patients didn't get
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an information leaflet to patient information leaflet prior to the injection. Nobody knew the
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adverse reactions. Even the doctors didn't know. If you remember, I received
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a letter from the Royal College of General Practitioners who said that doctors neither knew
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the ingredients of the injection or the serious adverse reactions or any adverse reactions.
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So informed consent was never an option. It was never on the table,
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and nobody was highlighting that at the time. It was an implied consent.
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But if you always want to go back and look at this legal this legal
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issue, a little bit more. We did a very good interview with Peter
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Todd who has been acting. He's a solicitor and he's been acting on behalf
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of the vaccine injured. The interviews called You're Not Alone, and it's on
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the column and we screened it in March twenty twenty three, and I'm going
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to try and get in contact with Peter to see if we can get an
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update on this. But clearly there is a long long way to go,
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as we are going to come and see. We're going to wait and see
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my next segment which actually brings me on to the MHRA, and we will
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talk a bit more about Astrosenaka. So the MHRA board meetings coming up,
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folks, Please could you all page in and sign up on there? I
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think it's what the twenty first of May, between ten and twelve thirty.
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We've only got a couple more meetings before Dame June Rain departs, so we
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really want to get as many people as possible. Please register, and also
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really now going back to AstraZeneca and tandeming in with your story Mike on AstraZeneca,
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and there are two sides as we know to the vaccine miracle and Jamie
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Scott, who was fit and healthy before the JAB is now not so fit
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and healthy, and he is actually suing Astroseneca. So there are some of
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them that are still taking legal action. But can I just remind you,
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Matt Hancock, did he say about the astrosenica vaccine. The Oxford Astrosenca JAB
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is safe. We know that over ten million people have had it in this
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country and that's what the British regulator says, but also the World Health Organization
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and even the European regulator. Now, we keep the effects of these vaccines
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under review all the time, and we know that the Oxford astroseneca vaccine is
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saving lives in the UK right now. So if you get the call,
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get the job, really, Matt, really, thank you to Kenny for
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finding me that clip. And finally on this little segment, Victoria Atkins,
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it would appear didn't get the memo. Her aides let her down. She
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didn't snub the COVID vaccine victims, she just didn't get the memo. Well
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you know, now, Victoria, so when's the meeting? Do let us
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know? Yes, that's a very good question. So well what can we
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say about that? We'll have much more on this in coming days and weeks.
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I'm sure, Ben, Let's move on to My life. I say
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absolutely yes. Yet again we're talking about my life. My say united.
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We stand, Divided, we fall is the phrase, and we are more
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divided now than any other time in our nation's history. We're pitting the young
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against the old. We're pitting women against men, religion against religion, race
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against race. And this is entirely by a design who benefits tyrannical powers,
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who sits at the center of this stuff well, organizations like My Life might
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say, and the entities that surround it. This UK Youth Charity, ostensibly
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a non partisan effort to get young people involved in politics, is extraordinarily well
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linked into the senior levels of the establishment. It has relationship with the Tony
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Blair Institute, with Sadi Kahan, the US embass six One Young World,
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another youth charity which is whose patron is Megan Markle NCS, the National Citizen
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Service, whose chairman is Lord Cameron, our Foreign Secretary. UK Youth whose
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patron is Princess an iron Co. Full Generations which is the Rothchild family based
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out of Paris. Tortoise Media, which is a new media organization which works
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directly with the Rothchild family in my Life, My say sits in the center
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of all of this. It's run by this gentleman Metti Choban NB. He
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got his mbe for getting young people into politics. That's sustensibly what this organization
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is here to do. He's got a board of trustees, as all charities
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do. I won't go through all of them right now, but the one
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that's particularly interesting given what we've already been talking about what's going on this week
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and this year, is this woman Harjit Sahota, who is the head of
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external world Relations and Stakeholders for Keir Starmer at the UK Labor Party, and
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according to in her own words, her job is about directing the electoral and
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targeting strategy for community engagement for the UK twenty twenty four general election. That's
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what she's there to do. She's trying to get that feeder on the right
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hand side of the stage into power, which will ultimately mean that the guy
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on the left hand side of the stage, Tony Blair, will be in
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power. Because that's ultimately I believe who Starmer is working for. It's not
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very non partisan, is it. So we spoke about them a couple of
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weeks ago. We talked about My Life My Say a lot over the past
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few months. Metti Choban was extremely excited because the charity had done a great
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job actually of getting people young people signed up to vote on as part of
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their given X campaign. And we've already reported on this. The reason that
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it's interesting and I'm bringing it back up today is that we're actually seeing the
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confluence of two stories. We talked about MLMs a lot, we also talked
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about Freud Communications Freud's group, and it turns out that those two organizations are
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working together. This was an announcement made a couple of days ago by Freud's
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My Life Might Say. A non PARTI is our youth led charity is campaigning
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to increase voter participation through the given ex campaign with our support, So they
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are working together. More than one hundred and thirteen thousand young people registered on
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National Voter Registration Day. So these two things are actually the same thing.
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And let's remind ourselves what Freuds are up to. Amongst other things, they
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run Goals House, the diverse community of business and political leaders, activists,
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ngngos and entrepreneurs focused on delivering the un sustainable Development goals. They've got a
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big advisory board, and they're not just running Goals House as a client.
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They are actively and intimately involved in it. So Matthew Freud, you can
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see in the top right hand side there with the buzzcut and the green accent
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behind him, he is the chair of Goals House and also a director of
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the Sustainable Development Goals, so he was actually involved in defining them and running
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out that entire program. Let's remind ourselves a bit about Goals House. We
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talked about this a lot, particularly back in January around Davos. This is
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James Harding, the Tortoise editor, stood in front of a tapestry of Satan.
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This is the Grayson Perry Walthamstowe tapestry, which we subsequently found out actually
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hangs in the Freud's office. Yeah, so that's probably owned by Matthew Freud
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and they take it around with them to go to these meetings. Who else
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was at Goals House? This was from twenty twenty three. We have Jane
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Goodall there in the center, who earlier that day had sat on stage and
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said that we needed to reduce the global population by ninety five percent, and
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then she went to Goals House and she was hanging out with Brian on the
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left. There he's not the king, he's a very naughty boy. And
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the global climates are our gore. Now what are they doing. They are
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delivering these the un sustainable development goals, or as I like to call them,
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the unsustainable development goals. You can't be implemented. They don't make any
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sense. And to show that these two things are linked, not least because
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of what Freud's announced in the piece that I showed it a couple of slides
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back, they've actually put the seventeen colors of the Sustainable Development Goals across the
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top of each of these images, so you can see that they are if
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that one and the same thing. They are signaling to us that this is
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SDG related activity. It's all tied together. And who's it focused on.
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It's all focused on young women. It's absolutely squarely focused on young women.
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In particular it's young immigrant women and with a particular focus on young Muslim women.
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Right, So this is divisive in a number of different ways. Yeah,
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and they're doing this in the context of what they're describing as the squad
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and you'll be familiar with that term because of Alexandria occasional cortex. I can't
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remember how to pronounce the name and ilan Omar and the other hard left wing
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Democrat US politicians who've been pushing this kind of agenda for the past. But
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it's probably a decade now, isn't it. Can I just say on the
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Squad it very much remains me of common purpose because it's leadership training. Yes,
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let's kiss for young people, but it's also an alumni networking on the
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background as well. Absolutely. Yeah, And what's really interesting is they're actually
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scrubbing this information from the website at the moment. So actually, I was
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going to say at the start, all of the partners who were formerly listed
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on the website, so the six and the US Embassy and those organizations,
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they've actually been removed over the past few weeks from the site, so they're
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cleaning this up in this important election year. And they've also removed all the
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references to the Squad as well, so they're kind of covering up their their
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methods. They're doing this in the context of basically a global gender war right
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and it's been going on for a long time, but there's been a lot
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of discussion over recent weeks of a global gender divide that's emerging. But I'm
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sure it's just happening. It's nothing, nobody behind it. It's not a
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conspiracy, it's completely organic. Mike. Of course, this is just emanating
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up from the ether, like there's nothing behind it at all. But it
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is quite a remarkable split, and it's all down the middle between male and
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female. And what we're seeing is that women are much more liberal than men,
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much more likely to vote for left wing parties than men. And as
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you say, it's not naturally occurring, it's being driven by the action taken
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by organizations like MLMs, Freud Communications, Tortoise Media, basically the whole mainstream
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media. The entire cultural narrative has been geared up to deliver this divide.
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Yeah, just yet another divide. We talked about the young and the old,
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talked about gender divide, we talk about the religious dynamic they've introduced into
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this, but also it is about race. And actually, the last time
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I think we spoke about my life, my say was that highlight that Dr
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Scholer, mosh Shagmimimu bag Mimimu. Yeah, I think I got that right,
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actually spoke at their launch event, interestingly, and she's a big critic
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of Israel. Apart from she probably isn't a big critic of Israel behind closed
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doors. She was quite happy to go along to this launch event back in
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twenty twenty one to talk alongside Reverend Al Sharpton and ol Sharpton is one of
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the biggest race drifters of the past fifty years. Basically, you know,
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extremely divisive figure in the United States. And you can see him here arriving
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into the UK to meet Lord Simon Woolley of Woodford, which is where I
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live. So he's my lord, I suppose. And he's now actually principal
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of Homerton College in Cambridge, where he's personally leading efforts to further radicalized students.
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And we can see him here speaking at the Cambridge Union last week.
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I want to say you back for thirty years if I marry, because thirty
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years ago I was an up becoming activist five him for social and recial justice
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with Operation Operation Black Verte. Back there there were four black Asian and minority
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at the KPUS. Now that's sixty four. But I'm with a black and
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brown Cob with a brown prime minister. But that's the goodness from four to
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sixty four the bad if you don't the goal of this. Not all our
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skin folk are our key folk, you know, Joko decide. It breaks
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my heart as a matter of fact to see black and brown faces sending on
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the place of dover, saying to the most vulnerable on the planet, we
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don't want to do so. According to Lord Willie, your skin color should
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define your political opinions. Yeah, and he is actually one of the most
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active and one of the worst dividers in the country at the moment. And
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we're going to see these intersectional fault lines between races, relief gens, genders,
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the different generations in the country opened up as much as possible by these
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people this year. And it's our job is concerned and active and engaged citizens
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to put the pieces better together and to unite the country with a few doo
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classes civilizations perhaps see let's see Yes, Okay, let's move on. If
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welcome. Now I'm delighted to say that we're joined by Matt Campbell and Pierce
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Robinson, but we'll speak to Matt first. Welcome back to the UK column.
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Matt, No, you have been on to talk about particularly your brother
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who passed away in the North Tower on September the eleventh, two thousand and
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one, and you've been aiming to get an inquest reopened into that death for
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quite a long time now and being rebuffed fairly firmly by the Establishment. What's
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the update, because the last time you were on you were attempting to rise
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money to bring further court action. Give us the update and where you're at
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with it. Yeah, So we did a crowd funding appeal which probably lasted
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about six seven weeks, and we managed to raise sufficient funds in order to
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challenge the Attorney General's decision through the process of a just judicial review. So
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we had a deadline of the third of April to submit the file and apply
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for judicial real which we made. Because it's actually quite a complicated case and
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there's a lot of supporting documents. We are actually still in the process of
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filing additional documents, so that should be finished next week. And then the
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Attorney General has about three weeks to respond as to whether they are going to
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you know, stand by their decision and let the court make a decision as
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to whether judicial review hearing would be held. And so, yeah, apart
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from us just finishing off the final submission next week, by the end of
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May, we will know you know, which path the Attorney General wants to
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take, whether they're going to capitulate, whether she's going to capitulate and essentially
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sign a consent order saying you know, we we back down, or whether
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they're actually going to you know, say, we're going to meet you in
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court. So where does that decision lie? Is that that if the attorney's
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the Attorney General's decision to decide how to act, depending on how they how
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she reacts, you will then it will then go to court for a judicial
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review. Can she block that process? No? No, So essentially because
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we've served, we filed at court and we will complete the filing next week,
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they have to within twenty one days do what's called an acknowledgment of service,
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which is essentially, if they wish to meet us in court as it
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were, they have to respond with their own grounds as to why they think
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their decision that they made to deny the reopening my brother's inquest was a lawful
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one. At that point, it's then in the High Court moment for them
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to make the decision as to whether we are actually able to judicially review the
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decision that the Turn General has made. So it's a kind of two step
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process at the moment, which is, you know, once you finished the
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filing, the Attorney General is going to make a decision as to whether to
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just you know throw the talelent or whether she's actually going to you know,
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meet us in court potentially. And that's I said if the High Court which
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is agreed that the decision can be judicially reviewed, and so if that agreement
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is made and you do get to go to judicial review, how long will
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that process take? My understanding is the from when the Attorney General responds with
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the acknowledgement of service and to submit their own grounds, we're talking probably a
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couple of months for the High Court to make a decision as to whether the
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judicial review would go ahead or not. And if it was to go ahead,
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they would set a hearing date which would probably be another two months down
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the line. From that point. So we're probably talking about if the hearings
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to go ahead, you'll probably talking about September timeframe, which are enough obviously
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is going to be around the anniversary time right, And in the judicial review
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process itself, would you would you be required to present some of the new
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evidence that you feel needs to be heard in the in the in the in
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the final inquiry or what are you what's the decision going to be based on.
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It's it's mainly points of law rather than the actual evidence. I mean,
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it's obviously part of our grounds for arguing that the Attorney General's made an
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lawful decision, but I mean essentially it's it's looking at did they from the
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high courts position, did the Attorney General correctly apply the various tests they're supposed
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to apply, and was their decision lawful? So we are actually really attacking,
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you know, was it a lawful decision that they made within the powers
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that the Attorney General has? You know? So it's it does involve the
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new evidence, but this at this phase, it's more just more focusing on
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the legal decision making of the eternal Attorney General. Yeah, and I mean
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just just to finish off, I mean, you have shown a credible tenacity
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and determination in this and I think it's a great demonstration of what's required and
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these types of situations. In fact, in any kind of situation of this
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type, you just got to keep going. And so you are making progress
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at the stage. I mean, yes, you've got to keep going.
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I mean it's lawfair. I think they try and push things out. It's
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just where a lot of these kind of cases go. That's not to say
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that we can't. We should be winning on paper at every single stage.
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We shouldn't have to keep fighting. But unfortunately, you know that's the that's
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what we're having to do here, you know, is it positive? Well,
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this the first refusal that the Attorney General gave us last summer. You
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know, we did a similar process. We applied, we were preparing to
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apply for judicial review. Serve the grounds on the Attorney General and you know,
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to the extent that they just went, we're going to lose, and
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they, within their rights, made another decision which again they said no.
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But to be honest, the grounds that the reasoning they've put in their very
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brief letter isn't much better than what they gave us in September before. So
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you know, I have every confidence that you know, on paper we win
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this, which obviously why we're taking it to court in the first place.
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YEA, yeah, brilliant. Well, I mean we wish you all the
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best with it and so on. But Pierce, let's welcome you to the
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program and at the weekend there will be a showing of Peace War and nine
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to eleven featuring Graham McQueen, who passed away some time ago. But you
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will be attending, and Matt will be attending as well to take part in
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the Q and A yes, that's correct. International Center for nine to eleven
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Justice as part of the essentially the commemorations of Graham's passing last year, we
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got a whole series of events as one in Boston, as this event in
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bar and the film Peace War on nine to eleven is It was directed by
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Ted Walter, who's in charge of IC nine one one International Center for nine
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to eleven Justice, and the film documents essentially the life and the work of
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Professor Graham McQueen. He's one of the key researchers in the field of essentially
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nine to eleven truth it's sometimes labeled, but essentially the academic research community who
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were courageous enough to actually engage with what had happened on nine to eleven,
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and of course granted powerful work on the anfracts attacks which occurred immediately after nine
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to eleven, which were connected to nine to eleven as part of that deception.
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And so it's a brilliant film. It's a very powerful, very moving
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film. And we'll be screening that at the Chapel Arts Center in bar doors
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open at six point thirty and then we have got built around the film.
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I'll be giving a talk at the start, just for twenty twenty five minutes
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to the audience essentially about the work of the International Center for nine to Eleven
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Justice organization who is involved in essentially generating new research in relation not only to
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nine to eleven, but also to the broader issue of propagander and deception and
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called structural deep events, including COVID nineteen and so an organization set up to
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do research also to support, as we are with the Campbell family, legal
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moves by families trying to get justice and accountability for nine to eleven, and
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we're also involved with essentially educating the public about the body of knowledge which has
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been established over the last twenty years on what happened on nine to eleven.
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And so I'll give a little bit of a talk about what we're doing in
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nicety nine one one to the audience, and then to spend ten to fifteen
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minutes really running through the parallels between nine to eleven and COVID nineteen. These
27:51
are what I am in academic terminology called structural deep events. But these are
27:56
events which are instigated, manipulated by elites for political purpose. Is in a
28:00
very big way. And so I'll be talking about, you know, through
28:04
some of the parallels that there are between the two events. You know,
28:07
we have hidden agendas, some not quite hidden agendas, especially in the COVID
28:12
case of COVID nineteen. We have large volumes of propaganda, we have instigation
28:18
of events, criminal activity, the involvement of the deep state or the intelligence
28:22
services. And I'll be mapping out some of these parallels that there are between
28:26
the two and this is based on what I'm doing at the moment for the
28:30
International Center of nine to eleven Justice. And then once we'll have the screening
28:36
I think starting at seven point thirty with the film, and then in the
28:41
closing half our forty five minutes after the film, we'll have a Q and
28:45
A session which will primarily be people ask me questions, but it's really orientated
28:49
at Matt and for Matt to talk to the audience about the legal process,
28:55
the legal battle that he's involved in, and then going into some of the
28:57
details. So you know, we're hoping it's going to be a good,
29:03
friendly evening. It'll be nice to sort of meet people if people can make
29:07
it out to the Chapel Art Center and bath and yeah, that's essentially all
29:14
I have to say, and just to encourage people to come along. I
29:15
think you have the details for the event and your website. I've got it
29:18
on my Twitter top of my Twitter feed is an advert for the event and
29:22
so on, so people can readily find out where it is and so on.
29:26
Absolutely, so it's on screen at the moment, and then we will
29:29
have details in the show notes after the program. So Piers and Matt,
29:33
thank you Bett very much for joining us. Matt, congratulations on the progress
29:37
you're making. We hope you have success in the coming weeks, and we'll
29:44
let everybody know as this story develops. So thank you both for joining us
29:47
today. Okay, let's move on and Debbie, let's have a chat about
29:53
plundering state assets with public private partnerships. Oh yes, well you know so.
30:00
I think this segment will probably apply to most places on the globe,
30:03
but in particular if you happen to be watching in Europe, the USA,
30:07
UK, here, and Commonwealth countries, please take special note because we seem
30:12
to have got used to the words world government because we seem to be ruled
30:15
by a world government already. Right, climate change, sustainable goals, sustainable
30:22
initiatives, public private partnerships. These terms just slip off the tongue, don't
30:27
they But what do they actually mean and what is actually going on? In
30:32
plain sight? And you don't have to go far just go back to the
30:34
UK Column website and I found this extraordinary article. I really would recommend everybody
30:41
goes and looks at this. It's only very short, but it really is
30:45
ahead of its time, Martin Edwards plundering state assets with public private partnerships.
30:49
And this was published in two ten. So this is how way back and
30:55
how far ahead the UK Column were. So let's look at this in more
30:59
details. Well, because Martin was spot on right, if we go back
31:02
to the Treasury and we look at twenty twelve. You can see there the
31:07
education when it comes to public private partnerships, Education have one hundred and sixty
31:11
plus projects and the Department of Health with one hundred and eighteen, Scottish Government
31:18
with eighty plus and right at the bottom with under twenty is arts, culture,
31:22
media and sport. Now, thank you so much too Martin Edwards's article,
31:29
and also to one of our viewers in Australia, Peter, You'll know
31:32
who you are. Thank you so much. You introduced me to Joan ViOn.
31:36
Now Joan ViOn sadly died in two ten. She was remarkable way before
31:41
her time, and in nineteen ninety four she was a businesswoman who went to
31:45
a UN conference on Population and Development in Cairo in Egypt, and she saw
31:51
through the veil and then went on to attend one hundred and three United Nation
31:55
conferences. She also formed the Women's International Media Group. She's absolutely extraordinary.
32:02
Have a listen to what she says about PPP. The real bottom line of
32:10
a public private partnership is to take control of the assets of government. Local
32:19
government, county government, municipal government, state government, and even federal government.
32:28
To take control of assets this is an asset transfer. Now I'm going
32:32
to give you a quick whistle stop tour through just a few pages that you
32:37
can find on the net regarding public private partnership. So, first of all,
32:43
Open Democracy they published this article back in twenty nineteen how the United Nations
32:47
is quietly being turned into a public private partnership and new agreement with the World
32:53
Economic Forum. So let's go to the World Economic Forum next, and you
32:57
can see that they're looking at climate change, water surprise, and also there
33:02
you've got your G your G four to G twenty global smart Cities. Those
33:07
are just two of the many papers that you'll find on the WEF. Then
33:13
we go to McKinsey. So McKinsey are up to their necks in we'll call
33:17
it PPP to save time, public private partnership at the highest level. And
33:22
they go on actually to talk about the four p's, So we're no longer
33:28
at the three p's, but now we've added an extra P, which is
33:32
a philanthropic so we have them collaborating with the WEF as well. They have
33:39
a sustainability four P model, and if you see in the next slide,
33:45
you can see what are the four P models. Well, that's power,
33:47
agriculture, forestry and land conservation. But what do our government say about PPPP
33:55
or PPP. Well, there you can go and find a basic introduction for
34:00
non specialists and they give you a bit more information going on in the document
34:06
and they say that it's a significant value. Of course it is. But
34:10
you can see down at the bottom there I've highlighted it. I mean,
34:13
please prease the screen and read all of it. I won't read it out,
34:15
but at the bottom it says a government transfers the exclusive rights to a
34:21
private operator or investor to develop and or operate an infrastructure facility under certain conditions
34:28
for a fixed period of time. So what kind of projects are we actually
34:32
talking about? Well, if we go to the Infrastructure and Projects Authority and
34:37
look at their annual report on major Projects, this was just twenty twenty two
34:42
to twenty twenty three, So I just did the next slide really is just
34:46
a very quick look at an overall picture. Please go to the report and
34:51
look if you want to see in more detail. But you've got fleet solid
34:53
support. Her Majesty's prison five wells New Prison Rapid Charging Fund for Electtion Vehicles,
35:00
National Law Enforcement program. I'm sure Charles will be covering more of that
35:05
in the future, and contact engagement programs. And this isn't just government,
35:12
this is local government too. As Joan Von was saying, this is every
35:15
form of government, which other country you're in, and here is something just
35:19
to back that up, local government. So you can see here we've got
35:22
public private partnerships driving growth, building resistance. If we go back to Margaret
35:28
Thatcher, and I do go back to Margaret Thatcher often. If we look
35:32
at page six hundred and thirty nine of her book, we can see that
35:37
she says that with regards to water privatization, which many of you will remember,
35:42
I'm sure back in the eighties, too much science funding going towards defense.
35:45
The government were funding research which could and should have been left to industry,
35:51
and as a result, there was a tendency for the research effort to
35:54
universities and scientific institutes to lose out. I was convinced this was wrong.
36:00
So let's go back to the WEF and look for the Global Water Initiative and
36:06
we can see, yeah, there we go a public private partnership. But
36:10
let's take you back to the amazing Joan v On what does she say,
36:15
and pay attention. Water Alana, Georgia cannot afford to restructure revamp their sewage
36:25
system. And therefore they go to the people, the citizenry, and they
36:31
say, we're going to have to raise your taxes X amount of dollars in
36:35
order to be able to afford to restructure revamp the sewer system. The citizens
36:40
and re says, we are already paid too many taxes. We refuse to
36:45
do this, and so they go back to the drawing board, and then
36:50
amazingly they will come up with some innovative idea. You always look for that
36:57
word innovado, and sure, as you read through, they will talk about
37:02
how, for example, Boeing Corporation is going to partner with the City of
37:10
Atlanta and the state of Georgia to help with their sewer system, and of
37:20
course the Nature Conservancy or the Sierra Club or one of them is going to
37:24
come along as a non governmental organization to help. And so pretty soon what
37:30
really happens is the sewer system, which belongs to the taxpayers of Atlanta,
37:37
Georgia, is transferred to this new partnership which is comprised of Boeing and the
37:46
City of Atlanta and the State of Georgia and the Sierra Club to help the
37:53
citizens get a new sewer system. Now, what happens in a private partnership
38:00
besides the transfer of their asset. Well, the little old lady who receives
38:06
her sewer bill goes in the shop and calls up and says, I'm sorry,
38:10
I can't afford this. And that's what you're seeing right in front of
38:16
your eyes, a very stealthy transfer of public assets into private hands. So
38:22
how prophetic the water companies? Well, let's go back to the Guardian.
38:27
Was it such a good idea that we had privatization of the water companies?
38:30
Plenty of secrets to be told, but Water UK actually their report seems to
38:36
think that everything in the garden is completely rosy. I would have a few
38:40
things to say about that. They say that the service has improved and that
38:45
bills have remained low. I would disagree with that. But that's just one
38:51
example. But let's just finish on my favorite topic, healthcare. So,
38:53
of course in healthcare we have plenty of public private partnerships, and no more
39:00
so than a big history of public private partnerships. This all start it off
39:04
in nineteen ninety one and has finished recently in twenty sixteen with this a massive
39:12
one point one billion contract buying out Barts and the London Hospital with private contracts.
39:17
And of course now it's still going on. We've got KPMG winning the
39:22
role in the NHS federated data platform with Palenteer. And let's just end on
39:27
the World Health Organization because of course they are full of PPPs or pppps.
39:34
And of course if we look at the stakeholders and the contributors, there you
39:37
go Bill and Melinda Gates number two, so PPPs, world Government one in
39:44
the same. Yes. Indeed, well, let's bring ourselves back to the
39:50
wonderful Mark Cancarney, who of course was Governor of the Bank of England for
39:55
many years. He's gone back to Canada, where he's from, and he
40:00
was giving a speech last week at the Canada twenty twenty a Time to Build
40:05
Economic look Ahead dinner in Toronto. So that's pretty exciting. No, just
40:09
to put this in a little bit of context, if you remember, once
40:12
he had left the back of England he started talking about Climately he started appearing
40:15
at all the various COP meetings and saying things like this, we will not
40:22
get to the net zero in the nation requires a whole economy transition. So
40:25
as a sort of leader in financial affairs, he's talking about transitioning the whole
40:31
economy. Not what to, We're not sure, but he went on to
40:35
say that companies that don't adapt, including companies in the financial system, will
40:39
go bankrupt without question. So when we ad this Canada twenty twenty event a
40:45
few days ago, he was talking about net zero, let's have a listen
40:49
to what he had to say, which brings me to the second rewiring,
40:54
which is this energy transition, the net zero transition. This is much much
41:04
bigger and moving even faster than most realize. A few years ago, businesses
41:13
around the world invested fifty cents in clean energy for every dollar they put into
41:20
fossil fuel energy. Now they invest two in clean energy for every dollar in
41:27
fossil fuel energy. Two trillion dollars in clean right now, and that ratio
41:32
is only going to continue to grow because being low carbon is now a fundamental
41:37
driver of competitiveness, and it's a dynamic that's being reinforced by the AI revolution.
41:45
And on that last point, I'll just give one fact. The explosion
41:50
in AI computing power is driving the top four US tech companies, and lets
41:55
take the top four. Their power demand, which which is all clean power
42:00
demand this year is greater than the generating capacity of Sweden, and it's only
42:07
going to increase now. So make no mistake. The global economy is in
42:15
a new regime, but the laws of economics haven't changed, and as a
42:22
consequence of that, the world's prone to higher and more volatile inflation, higher
42:29
interest rates not just today but over the medium term, and new drivers of
42:34
productivity. And there are other laws, since debts must be repaid and investors
42:40
rewarded for taking risks. Governments that spend too much and invest too little will
42:46
eventually pay a heavy price. So it's not just companies and banks so that
42:52
are going to go bankrupt. It's governments as well. They're going to bankrupt
42:55
governments that don't do the right thing and the right thing. As far as
42:59
he is, serned us to be jumping on the net zero bandwagon and so
43:02
on, But he wasn't worried about telling lies in his speech. So let's
43:08
listen to the second short clip. Here. Some right wing populists that see
43:15
current anxieties as an opportunity to stoke anger because anger is what's necessary for their
43:22
project. After all, people don't demolish things when they're positive or optimistic.
43:29
I know this. I know this from my time in the UK, where
43:35
for years the rallying cry of Brexitters was broken Britain and their solution to take
43:44
back control was actually code for tear down your future. So while Brexitters promised
43:52
that they were going to create Singapore on the Thames, the Trust Government actually
43:59
delivered Argentina on the Channel, broken Britain. Does that sound familiar When politicians
44:12
claim our great democracies are broken, it's not because they want to fix them.
44:17
It's because they want a license to demolish. So he he, we'll
44:25
talk about much more about this extra. I was just spectacular. But look
44:30
he said with a straight face that the Trust Government turned Britain, destroyed Britain.
44:37
The Trust Government wasn't a government for long enough to do anything. So
44:40
this is a complete lie with his position there. But anyway, we will
44:45
talk more about that an extra, but a related topic. Then let's put
44:52
let's put this on screen because we've talked about anthropy, and we've talked about
44:55
that place. The name escapes the Eiden Project aid amongst our tihuman players I
45:00
think I've ever been to. Actually, we can talk about data extra as
45:04
well. Well yeah quite, And I mean you say a related topic.
45:07
Everything we're talking about today is related. All of this stuff links together.
45:12
The global PPP needs to touch down in the nation state. How does it
45:15
touch down in the nation state through organizations like anthropy. We talked about it
45:20
last week, right, and we'll be talking about it a lot more because
45:22
they're gearing up this year. They describe themselves as a Davos on Sea.
45:25
I'm bringing them back into the mix because on the back of the big launch
45:30
event we spoke about last week, they've just announced their anthropy alliances. So
45:35
these are new national, thematic and regional leadership alliances to lead organizations into implementing
45:42
turning the philosophy into action and impact. Right, So they've got a global
45:45
philosophy of public private partnership. How do they actually put that into the system.
45:50
They do it through people, through relationships, through organizations. I'll just
45:52
touch on a few of these here so that they jumped out at me.
45:55
The first one, Children in Education, is being represented by Ken Fletcher,
46:00
whose chief financial officer and Transformation director at the Very Group, which is Littlewoods
46:06
Catalogs, which is basically like it's a financial services company actually because people buy
46:12
that stuff on credit ridiculous APR. And it's also owned by the Carlisle Group,
46:15
who is the primary beneficiary of the war in Iraq alongside Halliburton. So
46:21
that's what we've got thinking about children and education. Who else have we got
46:24
on here? Ray Newton Smith, the chief executive of the Confederation of British
46:30
Industry. So this is an extraordinarily high powered and well connected group of people.
46:34
You've got Professor Jurgen Meyer CBE, there's a lot of CBS NBS obs
46:38
as part of Andrew B within their network. He runs the Northern Powerhouse Partnership,
46:44
all right, So George Osbourne's big push to basically create a megacity in
46:47
the North, he's running it. He actually talks on his LinkedIn profile about
46:52
personally being invested in delivering the Fourth Industrial Revolution. He actually says that publicly
46:57
he's looking after infrastructure as a guy from West in the mix there as well.
47:00
And then also interestingly, particularly given what we've just heard from Mark Carney,
47:06
my former colleague Rob Dopel, managing partner for Sustainability. E Y is
47:10
looking after climate and natural places, and we've got a little short clip for
47:14
him from him talking, which you're going to show you now. I think
47:19
CFOs have got such a critical role to play around keeping sustainability front and center
47:24
for organization. Basically, all decisions in an organization, all capital decisions or
47:30
spend decisions, all flow through finance, and I think finance have the responsibility
47:36
of ensuring that those decisions are made not just looking at financial outcomes, but
47:40
looking at much broader outcomes because the stakeholder environment has changed, the expectations have
47:45
changed of organizations. What are you doing for society, what you're doing for
47:50
climate, what you're doing for people, etc. And I think CFOs,
47:52
therefore I have got a responsibility to ensure that that decision making process and how
47:57
they provide decision support to the business incorporates a broader set of measures than just
48:05
pure financial All decisions go through finance. If he worked in a company,
48:13
small, big, whatever it might be. In a well run business,
48:15
all the decisions go through finance. It's the perfect place to apply a control
48:20
mechanism. That's what Rob de Pell's talking about. That's what Ewy are doing
48:22
is what they're promoting to their clients. And that's why Mark Corney is so
48:25
confident the companies that don't do what they're told are going to go bust,
48:30
right, because they've basically embedded this right into their governance. Final point on
48:36
anthropy. I've been thinking about the word this week. Is an interesting word.
48:38
They've obviously constructed it from somewhere. Let's look at the etymology. So
48:43
philanthropy itself means love of humankind, and the word phil the first syllable in
48:51
philanthropy, comes from the Greek word philos, which means deer, all beloved.
48:54
So anthropy is simply philanthropy without love and effect. Yeah, and I
49:00
think that tells you everything that you need to know about what was happening here.
49:04
Yes, indeed, Okay. Now, on Wednesday's program, we were
49:07
talking about the King's speech and particularly two pieces of legislation, but one of
49:10
them was the Investigatory pars Amendment Bill, and so just wanted to remind everybody
49:15
that one of the main targets for that was encryption. So why am I
49:19
mentioning it again today? Because Reclaim the Net here has published this article leak
49:24
EU government imposed bulk scanning orders on encrypted messaging services. So just think about
49:30
that bulk scanning orders, because we kind of have the same thing with the
49:35
online safety bills and related legislation in the UK. But the article says this,
49:40
It says yet another leak document has emerged revealing details from the European Union
49:45
policy regarding on the implementation of the Child Sexual Abuse Regulation. So again this
49:50
not just in you know, Pierce is talking about structural deep events. This
49:53
is a structural deep event because this is happening right across the world in different
49:58
jurisdictions. So we have child abuse, the excusive child abuse being used to
50:02
shut down freedoms on the Internet in every Western country at the moment. So
50:07
if we put that back on screen for a second, let's have a look
50:10
at the document itself. Here, it is the website context put it up.
50:15
They received the leak and what they're basically saying is in this document from
50:19
the EU that if you're running a chat and online chat service, some kind
50:23
of encrypted service for customers online, you will be scored and if you get
50:29
a low score, you would be subject to your content being given one of
50:32
these orders to have your content being scanned. So low score would mean would
50:37
be caused by any encryption service which does not require a user account to use.
50:40
And the example that I give on Wednesday was the VPN service Movad,
50:45
which allows you to put a piece of output cash in an envelope and send
50:49
it to them and get access to service without any requirement to explain who you
50:53
are and so on. So this would be a completely anonymous service and this
50:57
is really dangerous as far as the EU is concerned. And on the other
51:00
hand, they say that you would get a high score if you were a
51:05
chat service for example that doesn't encroake by default for example, and this is
51:07
my example, Telegram, so they would not require an order because they're already
51:14
open to surveillance in bold data collection. So it is just very interesting.
51:17
I just wanted to highlight this point. This is not something that's just happening
51:21
in the UK. It's happening right across the world, and therefore we need
51:24
a view, in my opinion, viewed as a deep structural event and consider
51:30
it accordingly. Okay, let's move on then, Debbie, and what are
51:36
we talking about here? Bill Gates is back in the picture. Oh don't
51:39
spoil my surprise, Mike, we've got a new dish on the agenda.
51:44
I know you're going to be talking about food again in a minute, but
51:46
we've got a new dish. Imagine this. Imagine growing a crop you don't
51:51
need rain. It can be planted in sandy soil or desert soil, and
51:54
it's considered actually a serial of the pool. Well, it's coming to us,
52:00
or it might be coming to us. This is phonio, or as
52:05
Stephanie has kindly nicknamed it, phony So could phonio be a grain older than
52:08
the wheel? Be the future of the food. And just to let you
52:12
know, it's the women that do the farming on this. Women do fifty
52:15
percent of the work and men do fourteen percent. I'm not quite sure who
52:19
does the difference. But yeah, Bill Gates is getting really excited about it.
52:22
And you can crush it. You can make it into porridge as well,
52:27
lovely bowl of porridge here, or perhaps he wants to call it gruel.
52:30
So yeah, let's have a look at Bill Gates getting terribly excited about
52:37
this. He's cooking, he's got the chefs, but even better, he's
52:42
produced a little video. Have a little look trigger warning. Hmm, Well,
53:21
if you don't fancy eating it, don't worry. You can brew with
53:24
it. So fono is being actually used in British in the UK because Thornbridge
53:34
Brewery and Guinness have already signed up. Because of course it grows so well
53:39
in drought areas. Perhaps that means we're going to have a drought. I'm
53:43
not sure, but you can see there that you've also got Guinness, You've
53:49
got Thornbridge, You've got all sorts of people, including Carlsburg taking part in
53:53
this. However, this isn't such good news. I'm not sure as Sir
53:58
Bill hasn't done all of his homework. Because if you'd have gone to the
54:00
Advisory Committee on Novel Foods and Processes, and let's not forget the word novel
54:06
means new, they've got other thoughts and they're not too happy about fonio.
54:10
Now I've just taken a few screenshots and I'm just gonna Stephanie's just going to
54:15
run through them and you can read them at your leisure. But basically,
54:17
what the Food Advisory Committee is saying is that there are no health benefits that
54:22
they can see. There's not enough information. The water quality is going to
54:28
be monitored because they have got no clue of the sustainability of it for transportation
54:36
and distribution distribution. It could also affect thyroid activity. So the significant conclusion
54:45
was actually that there was no conclusion and it doesn't seem to be safe or
54:51
a a good bet for a European diet. So perhaps sa Bill wants to
54:55
go back and do his homework. But I must say, sir Bill has
54:59
just to sell two of his yachts because apparently now he's at the bottom of
55:04
the top billionaires list. Just saying was that with he yes, Okay,
55:09
maybe we shouldn't say that. Okay, thank you, Debbie, thank you
55:13
for that. But sticking with food, of course, let's bring full fact
55:15
on screen, because full fact some time ago is very very keen to tell
55:19
us that Agenda twenty thirty will not enforce eating insects, banning cars or a
55:23
global dictatorship that so insects are not on the menu. Right a minstream media
55:30
telling us says as well, this is the independent you were world order,
55:32
how the right wing became accessed with eating bugs? Then what we've got bloomberg
55:37
here one flies with that. EU critics of a new conspiracy theory. So
55:40
it's all conspiracy theories, except that the BBC is carrying this today or yesterday.
55:47
In fact, the insect farmers turning to AI to help lower costs,
55:52
and they were talking about this organization, Well, this is one of the
55:54
organizers. Sorry, this is one of the organizations they're talking about here.
55:59
If I can get this to play properly, full circle, who are providing
56:04
bugs to be used in animal feed. So the bug food is going to
56:08
pigs and it's also going to shrimps, so you know, we might not
56:13
beating it directly, but we're certainly eating food which has been eating that type
56:16
of protein. And this is one of a growing number of biotech organizations that
56:22
are developing mechanisms for growing bugs in factory formats, and they're wanting to lower
56:30
their costs by bringing AI into the picture as well. So you know,
56:35
all the people that are shouting that there's nothing in this bug eating story,
56:38
they might want to look again at the situation. But related in a certain
56:44
sense is genomics because and the reason I said that, of course, is
56:47
because what's behind all this, aside from Bill Gates, is the gene editing
56:53
idea which the UK passed legislation for But what's the latest on Genomics England.
56:59
Well, just to remind people, Genomics England is the jewel in the crown
57:02
of the UK government's genetic engineering strategy. It's a data platform. It's going
57:08
to how's the genetic sequences of the entire population. They've already got about five
57:15
million people on there. It's been running since the twenty twelve Olympic Games.
57:19
Is actually part of the legacy of the Olympic Games. I think we tells
57:22
you everything you need to know about those Olympics. It's fundamental to the UK
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Life Sciences vision. Right, So this is from twenty twenty one, the
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Boris Johnson Life Sciences Vision. It describes a digital technology platform as health system
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and it has built back better written all over it. It's absolutely aligned to
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the World Economic Forum strategy. They're getting the whole population on board, as
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I said, including right the way down to newborn and even in vitro as
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well. They're talking about right, But don't worry. Don't worry. There
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are sensible people inside the organization, absolutely laser focused on ethics and I'm going
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to introduce you to the head of it right now. Everyone's heard of ethics,
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so what is it? I will now eat. I'm head of ethics
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operations here at Genomics England. Ethics is a branch of philosophy. For me,
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Ethics is the difference between can and should, and the law will dictate
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what we can and can't do. But just because you can do something,
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it doesn't mean you should do it. In medical ethics, we have four
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pillars and those are justice. Justice is about fairness, It's about equity,
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and equity is thinking about different people having different circumstances and perhaps needing more of
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something in order to get an equal outcome than there's autonomy, so that's giving
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people a choice and then respecting that choice. In medical ethics, everything is
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dictated by concept. Then there's beneficence, and what that is is making sure
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that everything we do is of benefit to people. And then there's the opposite
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to that, which is non modificence. And what nonmalificence is is making sure
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that it's not causing any harm to anybody. The most important part of ethics
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is demonstrating it. We will take those four areas into considering and when decided
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whether something is the right thing to do. Sorry, there was one really
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big non related corporation that said they would doing all hard and that we all
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know how that went right exactly. Yeah, ethics, Anyone talking about ethics
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around this stuff makes me incredibly nervous. But let's just be honest, right,
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Let's have a little look at this guy, because this was comical to
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me when I saw it pop up, given I've actually worked with Genemous England.
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I met with their senior leadership team about three years ago a couple of
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times, so I understand what's going on inside there. And this guy's they're
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running ethics, and he basically looks like some kind of nineteen seventies school teacher
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type person, doesn't he He's got a small wooden creature living in his beard.
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There. He's actually wearing nail polish, right, I mean, what's
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this all about? This is formal communication from Genomics England through their official channels,
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and this guy's got three week old nail polish. I was actually hoping
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Charles was going to be here because he could have done an expection because a
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bit of shoes aren't polished either, and that shirt doesn't look particularly well lined.
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Although I don't think I could talk because mine's not looking great today.
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But what was he talking about? Anyway, Let's not just deal with ad
1:00:02
homs, right, We're going to actually dig into what he said. And
1:00:05
the first thing he jumps out of me is he's talking about equity. This
1:00:08
is a Marxist concept, right, This is equal outcomes. Right, So
1:00:12
this guy is a Marxist running ethics for this organization. He talked about autonomy
1:00:17
and consent, which is frankly laughable in the context of what the NHS has
1:00:22
been doing for the past few years beneficence non maleficent since and again let's just
1:00:25
roll it into what we said about consent. Yeah, they've been harming people,
1:00:30
so the idea that this fellow is going to stop them from harming people
1:00:31
is absolutely laughable. And then there was a little bit at the end there
1:00:35
that was missed out where he says that the most important thing about being ethical
1:00:38
is demonstrating that you're ethical, whereas I actually think that being ethical is the
1:00:43
most important thing about being ethical. But anyway, yes, well I'm sure
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we'll be talking about that extra too, absolutely, Okay, Debbie will add
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with you then, And what's the letters from Cornwall? Well, I've got
1:00:58
lots to say about Cornwall. Actually we'll talk more about it in Extra.
1:01:00
But if you're thinking of coming to Cornwall for a holiday this summer, coming
1:01:04
to see the Eden project, you might have a surprise because they're talking about
1:01:07
taxing tourists coming into Cornwall, and actually they're going to tax them probably coming
1:01:14
into Devon as well, to make sure that they don't ever get into Cornwall.
1:01:17
So yeah, watch this space. And if you want to come and
1:01:21
see new species of jumping spider, we've got one of those as well.
1:01:24
Okay, Debbie, thank you very much, Thank you very much to Ben
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as well, and thank you for all joining us today. It's been a
1:01:30
fun program. We will be back in a few minutes for some extra.
1:01:35
Hope everyone has a great weekend, whether you're joining us for extra or not,
1:01:38
and we will see you at one pm as usual on Monday. Thanks
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for joining us. Bye bye bye