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Getting “Clare”-ity · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Yeah. So I love being a
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  Speaker 1: puppy dad, Claire. But he's into everything he is. Um.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting better. He was like into this kind of
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  Speaker 1: like biting every time we wanted to play stage. UM.
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  Speaker 1: And he's just like he has no regard for anything
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  Speaker 1: of mine, Like everything is being moved at all times, um,
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  Speaker 1: like right now. It is one of the hardest things
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  Speaker 1: ever to be a puppy parents for sure. I don't Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I believe it. Jessica, you know, is an esthetician.
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  Speaker 1: So she has like her um what I don't know
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  Speaker 1: is it called like a spa or salon or whatever
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  Speaker 1: um down in Denver, And so she has to bring
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  Speaker 1: him with her some days. And I can't imagine because
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  Speaker 1: she's like trying to give a facial and he's just
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  Speaker 1: gnawing at her feet. It is so ridiculous, Claire, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, UM. But I do love him, and he
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  Speaker 1: is sweet and he like makes up for his rowdiness
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  Speaker 1: by like the evening times when he wants to cuddle
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  Speaker 1: and he just looks at you like with these eyes
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  Speaker 1: that are just like gosh, dang it, dude, I can't
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  Speaker 1: be mad at you for that long. Oh. I know
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  Speaker 1: it'll pay off in the long run, though, Ben, I
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  Speaker 1: promise hanging there off all right? I sure hope so.
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  Speaker 1: Um right now as I'm talking to you though, and
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  Speaker 1: before we get started, he is sorry I'm reaching over
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  Speaker 1: here because he is chewing up a nine from this
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  Speaker 1: last year, which is perfect. That's just great. Yeah, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're the best. Hey, Claire, enough about me, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about you. You're gonna be co hosting with me today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm super pumped for it. But let's just start this
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  Speaker 1: out by kind of catching everybody up on your life. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: how is life going? What are you up to tell
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  Speaker 1: all the listeners? Life is going well? First all, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for having me co host on here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to be doing it and excited that Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and Jared had their baby, like I could not be
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  Speaker 1: more excited for them, so happily to take this position
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  Speaker 1: for her today. But what about life has been wonderful
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  Speaker 1: and crazy and up and down and all the above,
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  Speaker 1: but mostly amazing. What has been involved in the amazing
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  Speaker 1: or what's been involved in the ups and downs? Um?
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  Speaker 1: So let's go peaks and valleys, I would say the peaks.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last year, I've shared along my journey of
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  Speaker 1: getting my breast implants out, and that was a big
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  Speaker 1: part of my life. And I think not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people um talk about it or it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like an uncomfortable thing because it's your breasts, but in
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  Speaker 1: its classic surgery. But it was something that was impacting
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  Speaker 1: my life tremendously that I hid for so long for
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  Speaker 1: a few years. And since I got them out last July,
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  Speaker 1: um it was July thirty one, life has just gotten
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  Speaker 1: better and better and better and more healing in more
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  Speaker 1: ways than I can even describe. So it's been a
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  Speaker 1: big part of my life lately. What kind of led
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  Speaker 1: to that? Were you sick? Were you having moved? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Was it emotionals? Like? What was going on? Yeah? There
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  Speaker 1: there was a bunch of stuff that individually over the years,
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  Speaker 1: Like it started about a year after I got my implants.
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  Speaker 1: I started I started actually taking pictures of these really
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  Speaker 1: bad rashes that I was getting on my arms and
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  Speaker 1: on um all at my arms and on my shoulders
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  Speaker 1: and on my stomach and anything and everything I did,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what medication, no matter what antibiotic no matter diet, change, exercise,
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  Speaker 1: anything I could do I did and didn't help the
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  Speaker 1: rashes and everything. So I started documenting all that, which
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  Speaker 1: was crazy, and I'm a very very healthy, health conscious person,
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  Speaker 1: so it was it was a crazy thing to kind
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  Speaker 1: of go through that. But then it started to kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the more that time went on, the more like, um,
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  Speaker 1: I could tell I would feel hungover every single day
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  Speaker 1: and I don't even drink, so for me, I would
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  Speaker 1: sleep nine hours a night and just be exhausted. I
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  Speaker 1: had super dark circles under my eyes, and I was
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  Speaker 1: getting sicker and sicker and sicker with no answers why um.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm a very healthy person. So
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  Speaker 1: I just couldn't make sense of it for the longest time.
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  Speaker 1: And I realized, looking back now how little energy I
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  Speaker 1: had that if I'm being honest, like I was already
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  Speaker 1: depleting myself pouring my heart into my relationship, pouring my
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  Speaker 1: heart into helping take care of my mom, that I
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  Speaker 1: was just depleted on my own energy levels as well
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  Speaker 1: for my own healings. So it was just getting sicker
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  Speaker 1: and sicker, not being able to kind of like help myself. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this, but the whites of my
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  Speaker 1: eyes were getting gray, which is a significant sign for
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  Speaker 1: like liver toxicity. UM and that's kind of what triggered
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  Speaker 1: my doctor to go maybe this is something to do
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  Speaker 1: with like heavy metals in your body, which led to
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  Speaker 1: implant casing. I can tell you're so excited about this
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  Speaker 1: right now. I'm so, I am sorry, I'm I'm listening.
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  Speaker 1: I heard about implant casing. I'm trying to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that my dog doesn't chew a no electrical wire that's
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  Speaker 1: plugged into the wall right now. So I'm listening and
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  Speaker 1: I'm parenting. So yes, please please forgive me. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you need to also, this is great training for
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  Speaker 1: a future child. Maybe that you have to start multitasking
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  Speaker 1: on so many levels you don't even understand. Trust me, Yes, yes, multitask.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm very present. I'm just making sure that
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  Speaker 1: my puppy one doesn't hurt himself or two doesn't hurt
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  Speaker 1: something I cared deeply about right now. Understandable on all levels.
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  Speaker 1: So I was just just riff and giving me crops,
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  Speaker 1: so okay, But yeah, it was just started. It was
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  Speaker 1: a major decline in my health and when I'm a
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  Speaker 1: very healthy woman. And so anyway, that's that's the gist
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  Speaker 1: of that. I got him out and then I didn't realize,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, how sick I was until I began healing.
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  Speaker 1: And that was the only constant that was taken out
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  Speaker 1: of my life, and I kept everything else. To say,
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  Speaker 1: My workouts were the same, my diets were the same
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  Speaker 1: after my surgery, and it's just like life has in
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  Speaker 1: healing has just gotten better and better and better for me. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Without that, my energy levels are out the roof without
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  Speaker 1: even me knowing. You're trying, you know, I'm imagining to
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  Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, but from a distance from
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  Speaker 1: a fan watching from the outside looking in. UH, this
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  Speaker 1: last year probably like healing has been a huge part
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  Speaker 1: of it in multiple ways, UM, and so feeling good
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  Speaker 1: is like it's a necessity. So how much of this
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  Speaker 1: really do you a credit to? Uh? Getting your breast
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  Speaker 1: implants removed and also just you know, leaving a relationships,
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  Speaker 1: getting back into the world, exploring again. I think it
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  Speaker 1: all plays in when you have positive in your in
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  Speaker 1: your life and supportive people in your life, UM, it
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  Speaker 1: helps with your healing. You don't feel so alone, and
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  Speaker 1: it definitely goes a lot into play when you're not
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  Speaker 1: pouring yourself into something that isn't pouring back into you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it is very deepleating. So having just not
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  Speaker 1: to have to do that and to have all my
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  Speaker 1: energy be able to be focused on my own healing
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  Speaker 1: has been honestly one of the greatest things I guess
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  Speaker 1: for myself, you know, and it was in such a
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  Speaker 1: crappy way, but I think somehow the universe knew that
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  Speaker 1: I needed that in order to you so well, first off,
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  Speaker 1: that's incredible. I'm really glad personally that you know, this
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  Speaker 1: was something you did. Uh. You know, it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: fun to feel bad, and then it's not fun to
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  Speaker 1: feel bad always. And I mean I saw I think
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  Speaker 1: it was he last week you posted like a video
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  Speaker 1: um and like you had spots, Uh, you had like inflammation,
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  Speaker 1: um your eyes definitely, Yeah, you definitely had discoloration, like
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  Speaker 1: And so now to see you like thriving again is
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  Speaker 1: such a good thing to watch from an outsider's perspective.
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  Speaker 1: So now you're back into the world. We've obviously you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in Batchel Nation wants to know. And before we
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  Speaker 1: get started breaking down this week's episode. Uh, and we
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  Speaker 1: are going to break down this week's episode of Clayton's
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  Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor. Are you ready to start dating again? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have closure enough with the show and with
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  Speaker 1: past relationship to get back out there? Um? I would
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  Speaker 1: say that I'm definitely, definitely healing in the best way possible. Um.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of things that happened, I guess
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  Speaker 1: within the last year, especially within my relationship, that were
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  Speaker 1: the behind the scenes stuff that I probably I don't
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  Speaker 1: know when I'll share it or be ready to share,
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  Speaker 1: but that we're really difficult that nobody knows about and
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  Speaker 1: that we're private, you know, um, in my within my relationship,
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  Speaker 1: but that has taken it took a big toll on me,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, Um with believing in myself and UM, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you know they always say and like, the hardest
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  Speaker 1: relationship isn't the toxic one, it's the one right after
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  Speaker 1: your toxic one, because you have to relearn to trust
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  Speaker 1: your own gut instincts that were undermined and gas lit
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  Speaker 1: and told that you were crazy and wrong and crazy,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. And so the one right after that or
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  Speaker 1: the healing right after that is kind of the hardest
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  Speaker 1: part of the whole thing, to be honest, because I
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  Speaker 1: had I'm still learning to trust my gut again, know
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  Speaker 1: the signs, the red flags that I was discredited for. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just relearning everything. So I am doing that. It's
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  Speaker 1: baby step in it and I don't to be honest then,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't feel a rush for it. I'm more
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  Speaker 1: focused on my own healing right now and taking care
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  Speaker 1: of my mom and making sure that she's okay and
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  Speaker 1: um comfortable. So that's that's really where my focus is.
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  Speaker 1: How is she doing? Um, honestly not the greatest right now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: she had COVID. She got diagnosed with COVID last Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: So as somebody who's already kind of she's on hospice
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  Speaker 1: already and so it was just another big dip in
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  Speaker 1: her in her health. Um so it's been a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a challenge. And I'm my sisters all have children,
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  Speaker 1: and um so I think I was the one that
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  Speaker 1: could go that's been able to go in there, and
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  Speaker 1: I guess how the honor of being able to take
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  Speaker 1: care of her while she is going through this, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's a challenging thing. You don't
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  Speaker 1: really want to be around COVID and I'm, of all people,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a germophobe. But my mom take care of me
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  Speaker 1: my whole life, and to least I can do for her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thank you for asking. Yeah, well, um, we're
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  Speaker 1: thinking about you, and you know, anybody listening, I hope
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  Speaker 1: they show their support to you. It's it is a
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  Speaker 1: tough time. There's no questions about it. And it's good
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  Speaker 1: to say it's a tough time. Um, But then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a weird time for you because then you
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  Speaker 1: have these amazing things happening and you and you have
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  Speaker 1: this whole new chapter in front of you, and that's
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  Speaker 1: something to be thankful for. But I get it now
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  Speaker 1: when you said they there speaks and valleys right now,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. It makes sense. Yeah, and I'm learning.
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  Speaker 1: When I talked to have an amazing therapist, and when
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  Speaker 1: I talked to her, she says, there's always this thing
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  Speaker 1: with um, you can it can be two things at once.
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  Speaker 1: I can be going through one of the undoubtedly hardest
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  Speaker 1: times in my life right now, but also have some
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  Speaker 1: really amazing moments and be thriving as well, and on
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  Speaker 1: a path of thriving for my own personal health. So
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  Speaker 1: they both can exist coexisting one and that that's proof
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  Speaker 1: of it, I guess. Well from all of us here
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  Speaker 1: before we jump into the breakdown, UM, we we continue
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  Speaker 1: to wish for healing for you, you know, romantically. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to new relationships. You made
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  Speaker 1: a great point and so many people are going to
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  Speaker 1: hear that and just completely lash onto it that you know,
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  Speaker 1: the hardest relationship is often the one that's after the
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  Speaker 1: one that hurt you the most because you have to
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  Speaker 1: unlearn things. And I get that. Someone listening get that,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, but there is I mean, there's so much
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  Speaker 1: beauty two when you can look back on that pain
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  Speaker 1: and be like, oh no, like I made it through
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  Speaker 1: and I'm better for it. Um. So yeah, we just
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  Speaker 1: we wish healing for you, and we also be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about your mother. Claire again, thank you for co hosting
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  Speaker 1: this with me. We're gonna take a quick break and
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  Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna change gears quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Clayton as the Bachelor and this
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  Speaker 1: recent episode of the Bachelor before we take a break,
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  Speaker 1: clear any advice for Clayton, I feel like you could
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  Speaker 1: just give it to him right now. What would be
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  Speaker 1: your one advice to him? Are we talking present? Are
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  Speaker 1: we talking on the show? Uh? Let's do both, because
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of I think actually one
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  Speaker 1: and the same. Honestly, the best advice I can give
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  Speaker 1: to him is stay true to who you are and
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  Speaker 1: really focus on your own mental health and whatever that
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  Speaker 1: takes doing, whether it be having supported your friends, having
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  Speaker 1: supported a therapist, your family. Really lean into that. Because
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  Speaker 1: this is a really trying time on the show, watching
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  Speaker 1: it back, going through it, watching the editing. It is
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  Speaker 1: not for the faith of heart to be on that
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  Speaker 1: side of it, um And I think he really just
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  Speaker 1: needs to focus on his mental health and focus put
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  Speaker 1: a lot of energy into that because the audience, I
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  Speaker 1: think can be very harsh, and I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: getting harder and harder with social media through through the years.
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  Speaker 1: So to really focus on himself, that's my biggest piece
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  Speaker 1: of advice. Well, I hope he listens to this and
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  Speaker 1: I hope he hears it. All Right, We'll be back
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  Speaker 1: with Claire as the co host on the Almost Famous podcast. Alright, Claire,
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've watched at least a few episodes this season.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to have watched them all, but how
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  Speaker 1: many have you watched this season so far? I will
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  Speaker 1: be honest, this is the first season I'm actually doubling
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  Speaker 1: back into because I think I had a little PTSD
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  Speaker 1: for a minute. But we are back in the game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching for sure, and I've seen I've seen the
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  Speaker 1: last few episodes, so I'm ready to get into it. Okay, perfect, Well,
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  Speaker 1: this this is exciting. You know we've we've I've missed
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  Speaker 1: one episode this season, but I caught up through the
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  Speaker 1: notes any that was two weeks ago. I'm I'm into
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  Speaker 1: this season, Claire, uh, And I want to before we
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  Speaker 1: dive into the episode, I want to know your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: Are you enjoying it? Like? Are you watching it because
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  Speaker 1: you're having fun with it? Are you watching it because
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  Speaker 1: your feel like, well, you know, you just have to
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  Speaker 1: because you were the Bachelor at one point? By knowings,
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  Speaker 1: I think, do we have to watch this? But I
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  Speaker 1: think it's it's easy to watch because there's so much relatability.
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  Speaker 1: Is after I work relatability within these episodes and with
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  Speaker 1: all these women. It's kind of like that fly on
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  Speaker 1: the wall of really what women go through, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: obviously everybody's not always in this position, but the things
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  Speaker 1: that go through people's minds, insecurities. And I think I
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  Speaker 1: actually watched because I know we all know it's edited,
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  Speaker 1: we all know kind of like the strategy behind things,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty transparent to see that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing, and it's it's a entertaining, entertaining thing to watch,
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  Speaker 1: but you really get to see kind of the spoken things,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what I look for. I see girls are
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  Speaker 1: dogging each other, when girls are throwing each other under
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  Speaker 1: the other under the bus, I don't know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it says a lot about these people individually and how
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  Speaker 1: much growth they have to go through, and maybe watching
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  Speaker 1: it back it can help them learn this stuff. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the question that so many people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask, and it is typically I would say, always
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  Speaker 1: uh an excuse, not always the like the absolute excuse
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  Speaker 1: that covers everything. But you know, people get off the show,
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  Speaker 1: they don't look great. People are criticizing them, which hurts,
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  Speaker 1: and like there's that fine line between having fun with
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  Speaker 1: this and and you know, nagging and watching it as
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  Speaker 1: a fan and also or like trying to ruin somebody's life,
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  Speaker 1: which is never okay and no matter, it's never alright.
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  Speaker 1: But typically the response is oh, it's edited, right. We
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  Speaker 1: hear it every season. The villain says, oh, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: but it's editing. How much you've been a part of
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  Speaker 1: this show, how much of this story is edited? Because
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for me as I'm watching, like, they can't
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  Speaker 1: edit out her coming to the cocktail party, taking a
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  Speaker 1: trophy and throwing it like she didn't need to do that, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Then this is what I was going to talk to you,
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  Speaker 1: like ask you about because we all know about the editing. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot take X amount of time and cut it
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  Speaker 1: into one or two hours and expected to just flow
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  Speaker 1: easily to make sense. So it's going to be edited naturally.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm seeing the I t m the interviews, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching, like, I get that you can kind of
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  Speaker 1: piecings together and encourage or catch somebody on a bad day.
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  Speaker 1: I get that, But a lot of stuff that she's
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  Speaker 1: sang is just not acceptable period, I think as a woman,
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  Speaker 1: and this is there's a difference between the edited villain
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  Speaker 1: and somebody who's just outright being nasty. What are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and that? Like what do you think about that?
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  Speaker 1: Like do you see are you paying attention to all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff that she sang as well in the interviews. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's always the shocking part, right, I mean this was
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  Speaker 1: the best one. This one was when she came to
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  Speaker 1: the cocktail party, apologized and then very clearly like you
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  Speaker 1: can't edit somebody saying I just played all these women,
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  Speaker 1: Like all these women just got the best acting job
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  Speaker 1: they've ever seen out of me, and now they're on
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: my side again, Like, I mean that stuff's not right.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And I think as a fan, again, you don't want
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to crush her. She's on a show, she signed up
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: for show, but as a fan of like, hey, she's
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: not the white right one for Clayton, Like she needs
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to go home, Like she needs to figure that stuff
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: out on her own. Now, this is not okay to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the women involved. It's not making a more fun experience. Weird.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I was in um Pebble Beach or right, I guess
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Carmel by the Sea this last week with Wells and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Dean and we were talking about this. Somebody came up
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and asked, like, Hey, how edited is this show, which
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: gets asked every time a fan of the show comes
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: up to you every time, and we like did the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: normal answer, like not that much, and then we came back.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, do you guys really believe that? Like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: do you really believe that? And we talked about it
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and we're like, no, we do. Because here's the thing.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I believe the show would love for every cast member
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to become a villain at some point during the season.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I think they would love it if there was like
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: arguing and fighting and chaos and confusion and heartbreak all
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: those things going on. So the differences. Some people just
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: say no to it. They just are like, I'm not
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: gonna go make fun of that person. I'm not gonna
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: go to that group date. I didn't win my date.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: This was the rules that were set up. I'm not
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: gonna like go and bash this person with with like negativity.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It's not me. I'm not gonna do it. You just
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: say no, and then what happens the producers going Okay, cool,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: don't do it. But some people say, oh no, that
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: sounds awesome, like I want to make their day awful.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And that's I think where things get hard. Because I've
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I've been in those environments, and I know some of
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: these villains are saying yes the things they should be
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: saying no to, even as the bachelor, and you can
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: probably say this is bachelor, right, there's things every day
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that you probably put your foot down on and said,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. It's not it's not the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: way I'm gonna handle this situation. I mean, you're a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: great example of it. You literally said, hey, I'm out
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: of here, and I'm you know, I found my man
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm out. Like there's there's no rules, and so
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you just have to stand up for yourself and stand
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: up for who you are. Yeah, I think I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: too a lot of people in these women men that
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: go on these shows. It's I think a lot of them,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: not a lot of them. I don't know about the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: majority of what people are, but it's they know that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: they're going to have fame from that. Right. You're gonna
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: have the followers, you're gonna know, you're gonna be talked about,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Your name is gonna be put out there. But at
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: what cost? When? Yeah, I'll get you that that five
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: minutes during the show and get the feedback and get
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: your name treining on that. But at the end of
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the day, when you really sit back and go even
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: if it's a month from there, or a year from there,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: or two years, three years, ten years down the line,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that's so like, have some into hegarty on. Not even
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: if it gets you five minutes of more TV time.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. You know. Maybe that's the public service announcement
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we need to give out in this podcast is I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: will tell you right now one thing, five minutes of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: fame is not fulfilling. It's not worth it. It's cool
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: when it happens to you, don't go chasing after it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: The second thing is, if you're going on this show
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and this is the route you're gonna take to get
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: more followers, I'm telling you right now, there's zero benefit.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Like you might think there's a massive financial benefit. You
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: might think the world opens up to you and you
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: can be able to do whatever you want. I got
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: news for you. It's not the case. And so if
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're going on this show, try to do it well,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: try to be respectful, because that's really the only benefit
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you get from the show itself is maybe just maybe
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: some friendships, maybe a relationship, and possibly for a year,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: maybe go on paradise and you have a great time there,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and maybe you have to do a couple of Instagram ads.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But then it ends. It ends, and that's it. It
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: ends when you walk out to dinner to hang out
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: with your friends or your mom and people are judging
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you based on who you've shown to be and really
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the words you said and what you've chosen to do there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: It's going to affect you period. You're it's gonna haunt you. Essentially,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: what you don't, what you say, is going to haunt
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you regardless. It haunts the people that don't even have
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: bad intentions, that aren't villains. A lot of things they
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: say and do haunt them. And it's it's like, you
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: have to be able to live with yourself. So I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: oddly have like a weird amount of like this girl
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just does not realize what she's getting herself into by
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: staying and doing the things that she's doing. You have
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to be kind of heartless to not care and have
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it not affect you long term. I agree. So here's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the thing, listeners, You're gonna watch it. It's not going
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: well for her. She's going to probably be eliminated. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: would assume jus at some point here soon, Uh, don't
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: double down. The pain of the world is going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: be enough, Like, don't double down on the criticism of
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: her to you know through social media, through the tweets
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and all that it hurts deeply and she's I mean,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: anybody comes from the show, it's just gonna have a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: ton to learn, and that learning period happens right away,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: like as it's airing, and so you know, our health,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the mental health of these people is very important, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really really hard time for any
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: villain that gets off this show. And you just don't
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: need to be somebody adds to it. You just don't
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: need to be one more person that tells them how
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: terrible they are, because we really don't know them as
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a human and we don't know their intentions. So that's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: my son, And honestly, to there, there is so much
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like when it's almost it's very cringe e in like
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a sad way to me when I see see this
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: type of like villain behavior happening. It's not because they're
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: happy people. It's not because they are feeling good about
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: themselves and confide it and unbothered by other people. This
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to me, when I see this kind of like villain
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: behavior and words and this hurtful stuff, it clearly shows
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that they are struggling with something within themselves. As it
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: is so exactly like you say to the public, do
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: not double down on these people. You have no idea
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what they're going through, whether or not they said was
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: even awful or regardless of that they're going through. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm fully under the like belief that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of people go into the show not really
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: not understanding all of it in entails, especially afterwards. You're
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: not a hated after a famous person going into this,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You're a regular human being with your own struggles. So yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you're completely right. Well, that's obviously the first part of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the episode two. I mean the struggles, um, the women
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: in the house kind of uh, just being at uneasy
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: about it is really a start of the episode. But
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: then we get into the first one on one Day,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: which Serene. Uh. It starts out with Serene jumping into
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Clayton's arms, which is uh, just the most iconic over
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the last five years seen in Bachelor history. Just always happens.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on this day and what was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: your expectations for this date before it happened. I actually
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: loved this date. I think dates like this are perfect
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: because it really gets to highlight what people love and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it gets to bring their personality out. And clearly this
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is something that she's excited about. Something that she loves
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: is amusement parks, and so I feel like it's her
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: time to shine, you know. Yeah, and their connection is
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: fairly evident. I didn't know if they would have the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: connection that probably either of them were hoping for when
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the dates started, but over the date and through the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: evening portion, like, the connection between them was definitely like
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: tangible and and it's almost like somebody that's stuck up
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: on us because we just haven't seen a lot from her,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: because we haven't seen a lot from anybody other than
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the drama going down and some teddy scenes
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: at the very beginning. So I didn't know, but I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: do think there's something there. I do expect her to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: be around a while I did. I definitely think that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: there's something there, especially because when your guard is down
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and you're like doing these roller coasters and doing all
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: these things that you can't really be poised at. You're
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: at your rost and when you're vulnerable, and obviously he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: clinged to me to look like he was nervous on
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: these so I feel like it was it was a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: space for them to kind of connect on. And when
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you have your guard down, you're vulnerable and you can
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: connect on that level. I think that's the best space
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to be in because it's it's an openness that you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: can have there. I felt that they had definite chemistry.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You know, she was my next bachelor at choice when
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the season started. Well she really I love her. Yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I thought they would go, you know, why
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: not double times? Like the teacher worked out last season.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: She was calm, she was confident, she was a leader.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: She helped navigate this whole thing really well. And I thought, Okay, like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: go for the teacher again like she worked before. Why
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: not again? I would love to see a teacher, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: take some time to find love. So she was my pick.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know right now, uh, just because it's so difficult.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen enough yet to say, oh, yeah, no,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: she's gonna be around with Clayton at the end. But
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: if she's not, I liked her. I think she's great,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and I think she She brought an ease to the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: show that was needed during this episode because it was
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: so much other stuff going on. I thought she like
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: transcended through the issues. I think this is this date
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: is exactly what the show is made up to me
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Aside from the drama, this is what I love to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: watch on the shows is actually seeing people doing adventurous things,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: doing things that they are out of their element in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and just falling in love, I guess you could say,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and seeing that part of it is what what I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: love to see. Well, then we transfer transfer out of
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: this one on one date. She obviously got the rose
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: just like you don't remember this uh into the cocktail
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: party where Clayton shows up to talk to the women,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: he pulls uh some of the women aside to speak
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with them. He also then gets time to speak with
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: she a one on one about everything going on within
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the house and all the things that are being discussed.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So they have this conversation. All right, we don't need
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to pick out it. We kind of talked a lot
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: about this situation before. But my question within this conversation
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: with you, did you get the sense during it? Because
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't, and I thought I would that she is
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: actually into Clayton, like that she's doing, like that she
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: was talking to him because she cared about him or
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: just cared about being around. I don't know what her
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: intentions are yet, but I was not convinced that she's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: that into him from this conversation, So I went into
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it feeling like exactly when I saw this part, I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: felt like she was not into him. But I kind
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of see and I could be totally wrong, a deeper
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: sense of unworthiness and like an insecurity that she almost
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It's it's like a self protective thing that I think
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: she's doing. So I think she might be into him,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: but I very much think that this is obviously the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: wrong way to go about it. I don't know it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: just it doesn't She keeps talking about. One thing that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: rubs me the wrong way is I hate when people
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: say the word winning this show, because then it really
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: makes it like this competition, competition, and it's not about winning.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's like either it is or it isn't. Oh, you're
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: spot on, Yeah, the winning side of this doesn't make sense.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're winning because if you win,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: if you win an engagement at the end of this
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and you don't really like the person. I'm telling you
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: right now from experience, you know, that's not winning. That
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: makes it really hard for the next few years of
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: your life, for the next couple months of your life
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: as you're like trying to plan a life together. So
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: there's no winning unless you're really into the human Can
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I get an amen on that? I mean, and like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I had the benefit of being like, hey, I think
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: this is gonna work. I think you did too, Like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I think this is yeah, this is I actually was
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like into it. I can't imagine faking it. But at
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: some point get hard. Yeah, they get really hard. So
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you're not winning if you're not in a good relationship.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: They just that's not a fun season of life. It's
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: not enjoyable. It hurt. Honestly, there's no purpose to that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: because there are people who are looking for a relationship,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: who really want to fall in love and who want
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to start that part of their life with somebody and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: who are open to that. So I don't know winning.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I hate that you're winning with within the show. Yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I doesn't make sense to me. Well, okay, so she comes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: We talked about it leaves the conversation with Clayton. He
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: kisses her. I think he's into her. I think he is.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: He's definitely into this relationship. But she comes and talks
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to the girls, uh following this conversation with Clayton and apologizes.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: At that point is when we see her uh saying, hey,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I faked it. I was acting because I'm not putting
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: words in her mouth. She literally said, I'm acting. That
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: was in a performance of a lifetime. I convinced everybody
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: else done that. Then sorry to catch you office if
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: you've done that in the past. I feel like this
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: is an extreme version of we all think that that's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: kind of what to certain people, but like somebody that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: is this forward about it, I mean, give her credit.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: At least she's owning it to the audience that's watching.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: She's not owning it to the women. Yeah. I don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: remember a specific time where somebody has done this where
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: they've just literally admitted, hey, I lied to everybody in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that room. I just lied to just stick around. Maybe
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: we would have appreciated if people would be more honest
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: than and say their intentions from the jump, right. I mean,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I wish you would have done it to the women
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like been like, hey, I'm gonna say this and I
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: don't mean any of it, but I'm gonna apologize to you.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just here for a good time. Like that's I'm
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: gonna start this. And then she goes into apology. She
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: hasn't yet done it to a woman, so there is
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that thing that side of it, and I'm like, yeah,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that's not fair, but at least she's admitting it to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the audience. She's also with these I T M s.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: She's admitting it to the producers, which if you've ever
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: been on this show, the one thing you try to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: do the whole time is to hide as much from
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the producers as possible for as long as possible, because
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: whatever you say and do it's definitely gonna be used
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: against you in the court of the bachelor. Of course,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you gotta keep your game face on. So she lost
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the game face. I don't think this gets easier for her.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Uh And we see some stuff later on the episode
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that we'll get too. Well. At the rose ceremony is over.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: At this point, Clayton gives a rose to Sarah Marlena, Genevieve, Mara, Gabby, Susie,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Eliza Hunter, and Chennai, Jill Sierra and Lindsay go home.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Clayton ends the Rose ceremony by being very excited I did,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: saying they're traveling internationally to one of the best cities
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I believe in the world. Though it's not very far,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: but it's a good city, Toronto, Canada. They're on their
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: way to Toronto, Canada. We're gonna talk about Toronto and
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: all the days that happened right after we take a break.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: The first one on one in Toronto, Canada is with Gabby.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Gabby is a sweet soul. She is definitely one in
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: my opinion, that is not at all flustered by the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: cameras around her. However, she's admitting multiple times to Clayton,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm crazy. I'm absolutely bonkers. You don't want to know
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: what's going on up in my head, is what she
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: says to Clayton Claire as a woman. Should Clayton be
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: seeing that as a red flag? Or is that endearing
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and cute? I find it very endearing and very cute.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I think this woman is self deprecating and kind of putting.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I don't I actually don't think she's crazy at all.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I think she's putting her stuff out there and kind
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of being like, this is who I am. This is
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: who I am, and I want I want to show
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you the hard parts and the parts that I'm not
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: so proud of, like this is who I am. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I think I actually think she uses the word crazy
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: loosely because she's goofy at, outgoing and gregarious and just
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: kind of like crazy, you know, like I don't always
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: find crazy as something negative. No, And typically my life, Claire,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: any human that can admit to me that they're a
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: little crazy is typically the least crazy of anybody I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: ever meet, Like right, yeah, like the people are like, yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I have nothing wrong with me. I'm really normal. Is
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: at some point when things switch and you're like, oh
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: my goodness. So I found it endearing. I did. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: think she was nervous, so she probably tried to double
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: down on a few more times, like she kind of
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like tried to convince him. He's like, I'm sure you're great.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Like you know, what do you say to somebody's like
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I'm crazy, You're like, oh that's cool, Like so am
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I But I don't think that. I don't think she's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: sitting down being like just so you know, I'm crazy.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm just crazy, Like I I think it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: so endearing, and you see it through the date. You
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: see it from the start to the finish, and when
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like they're you know, the nerves are loosened up a
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: bit and they start hanging out and they start talking,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you see them connect and like have a lot of
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: fun together. And I think Clayton said, I think one
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: of his voiceovers, like what I loved about this date
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: was just how relaxed it was, because I think she
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: did a great job at kind of calming everyone's nerves.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: She's like, Hey, I'm gonna let you know right now
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: who I am. We're gonna have a blast here today.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you invited me on this date, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: let's just have fun. And I think they did, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I think Clayton needed it so like it was one
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: of his better dates so far as the Bachelor, because
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: he does seem so uptight or nervous sometimes. I feel
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: like this one he was really like starting to loosen
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: up a bit. I think you had fun with it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I agree to, And I actually think watching this date,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like as crazy as she calls herself or
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: as crazy as she can be, like rocket out role,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I actually think that watching it. She seems very grounding
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and very calming, and I think when you peel back
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: that those layers of I mean, I'm sure you've heard
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it too, where all comedians always have like the deepest
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: issues and the darkest paths of things, and they struggle
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the most with a lot of things. That's why they
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: make light of it and laugh about it because it's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do when you are feeling heavy. Um.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But she it's her go to move to be kind
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: of like crazy and funding and outgoing and everything. But
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: she definitely has those layers to her that I think
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: are super grounding and super humbling and and really real.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I guess it's a part of the show. I like watching.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: You got to see real human or real humans interact.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: You know, real humans try to date and it's awkward.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Dating is so weird and it's hard at times, and
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you get to see two humans try it out. And
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's this is the stuff that I'm really
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: wanting to get more into. Is the season progresses is like, Hey,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I want to know your quirky side. I want to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: know the things that you're insecure. But one of the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: things that you're super confident in let's see if you're
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: a match for Clayton and well, I think after this date,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I believe Gabby and Clayton both feel like, hey there's
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: something here. So hey, he's two for two on one
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: on ones this week. But then we have a group date.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Everybody left in the house. There's nine or eleven women
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in the house. Nine women on this date. Genevieve and
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Gene are left off of the group date list. The
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: group date happens. This is such a dangerous group date.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: First off, here's the concept personal. Peter is a Canadian
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: comedian walks into the room. He's also known for his
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: roasting expertise. He's really good at making fun of people.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Is what a roast really is, And so obviously the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: women are gonna start making fun of themselves. Clayton Jesse
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: at times the host of the show. Now what I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: get really nervous for these dates, Claire Same. I don't
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: like the idea of them. I think they're funny at times,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Like you've seen some seasons where people crush it and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like nobody's really offended and it's just kind of funny.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But traditionally, and typically these dates are always end people
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: being really mad at each other. Of course, it's we
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: had a roast on our on my season, and it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: was so uncomfortable because it's I fully agree this is
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: there's one thing between like a good riff and a
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: good roast. But this house and in this environment, it's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: personal and it's not just comedy and jokes. It's really
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: taking digs at people. And you can see how it
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: goes from joking about, you know, lighthearted things to actually,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: really we've taken some digs and it's just like, this
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: is not it's just it's cringe e to me. It's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: so cringe e to me. I feel awful. I feel
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: awful watching it, and I just it's not funny to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: me actually, to be honest, well no, it's just there's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: really no way it's gonna end well. But they do
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: take some diggs at Clayton. He definitely is a part
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: of most people's jokes, mostly about his failed NFL career,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: which is funny to me because I still talk about
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: my high school football career. So the fact that he
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: made it to the NFL at all feels like a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: massive accomplishment to me. But maybe I'm just crazy, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that doesn't really feel like a failure to me whatsoever.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Uh So they make some fun of Clayton, they make
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: fun of Jesse seeing him and Clayton look exactly alike.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But then it starts sweeping through the house. At this
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: point in time, Claire, if you're the lead of this season,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you would think Clayton is starting to pick up that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: there is an issue with Cheney, that it's not just
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the one on one issue, that there's multiple women that
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: are like, hey, this is just not good for us.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: It's very I mean, if if one good thing came
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: for the roast, at least I hope he has uh
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: an idea of one the women's personalities within the house,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and too that there's issues within the house that he
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: needs to be made aware of. And I thought this
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: is a good opportunity to do it. Would you have
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: picked up on that if you were the lead, of course,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I think you can definitely see where people are taking
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: their digs. And clearly this girl was not even at
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the roast, and they're just digging in and digging in
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and digging in. I mean, it went from talking about
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: ib s to just I mean, it took it there,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I guess, but no, no no, no, it's it's hard to watch.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: It's definitely hard to watch. But um, I don't know.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I yeah, it just cringes me. I'm all four timod ibs. Like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: if you want to make fun of like my stomach issues, Like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: if you want to make fun of like my like
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: my bodily issues, I'm cool with that, Like, please go
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Like I know it's weird just
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: as much as you do. So we're all on the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: same page here. And if you're gonna tell millions of
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: people that I can't stay out of the bathroom, well, hey,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: at least they know now, at least everybody about me,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: So be it. We're human, we get it. It's the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: personal stuff that starts to get weird. You know. There's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the age jokes, there was the channey stuff, and it
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: just started to feel a little heavier than maybe what
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is ideally brought on from these group dates. But it
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't ruin the date because the cocktail party still goes
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: very well overall. There's still a great cocktail party. I
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: think Clayton connects with multiple women during the cocktail party.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Alliza is one of them that kind of stood out
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to me. Um Rachel obviously, and then I'm gonna ask
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: you who do you think had the best move during
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the cocktail party. I know that names are not like
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the easiest thing right now, so if you just want
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to explain the scene, I'll probably able to give you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the name. But who stood out to you during the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: cocktail party? Shelly? I and I got that correct, right,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: she got grabbed the mike. Susie, Susie, Shelly, Shelly there, Shelly.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I was gonna go with
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: it until the end and then just correct you. But no,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it's Susie. Yeah. I thought that was a great scene.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: So why did you like it so much? I loved
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Susie's approach. First of all, I just love her. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: think she's super composed. Um, I love that. I think, yeah,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I'm all for like a taxil roast and like a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: playful banter. But she followed it up with a lot
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: of positivity and a lot of really good reinforcing things
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that yes, it's all funny games when we joke around,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: but this is actually what I really do like about you.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I thought that that was really cute of her to do,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and um, kind of a good a good move because
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it how do you have been regardless of who you are,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: to be roasted hurts on some level, and they roasted
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Clayton pretty hard. So I think he needed that not
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: only from her, but I think his ego needed it too,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: just to kind of like make him feel a little
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: bit better. So it was a good movie. Yeah, I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: don't know if he You know, the one thing about
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Clayton that I think I could probably guess is I
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: don't think his ego is like thriving right now being
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. As we watched filming, I think he's kind
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of feeling crushed. I think he's probably feeling confused. I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if the connections with the women are as
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: strong is what we even see on TV, and so
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably like hurting. So for Susie to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: do this is an incredible move, and it's also a
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: move that you learned during marriage. Right You say something
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that you didn't really mean and you're joking and you
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be funny and it didn't land
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: with your partner, and then you gotta figure out a
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: way to apologize. But you just don't want to go
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and say I'm sorry. You gotta try to like kind
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: of fix it and show how much you love them.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: And this is kind of how you do it. You
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: go and you maybe bring to the situation you say, hey,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I know I said that, but this is how I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: really feel. I thought it was a great move for Susie.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I think it was a sign
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: of things to come. She's in my top three at
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: this point. I don't think she going home anytime soon.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: But here's a crazy part. She did not get the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: group date Rose. Rachel got the group date Rose. We
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: didn't really see a ton um. We got to see
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like some conversations between it, but we don't really get
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to see why she got the group day Rose. There
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: was definitely some great people involved. I thought Eliza could
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: have got it um, but she did. Rachel got the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: group day Rose. She will be here another week. Well, Claire,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like I know why Rachel about the group date.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Tell outside looking in on the tidbit that we saw.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: To me, they have mad chemistry, mad chemistry, and I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: think I can see it when he looks at her,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: how he looks at her. He looks like he just
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: wants to eat her face to h And I think
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: that alone, especially from men like that goes far, you know,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: chemistry does go far, and so he's so enough. Yeah,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I mean they were a little chit chatting, but then
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it was like shut up and kiss me. You know.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: She's like, I don't even care what you're saying. I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: just I just want to be kissing you right now. Yeah. Well,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: good for him, good for her. I think it takes
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of the stress for what's going on to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and a lot of the like pressure to have these
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: intense conversations. That takes a lot of the pressure of that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And if he likes kissing her, right, if he's into it,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: then like he's he'll go home at least after that day.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I know those evenings you go home and you think
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: through the day, you're like, oh, man, I kissed her.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: She's gonna have to go home to like she's great,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: but I just like it's not working there. But if
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: he's kissing her and he's going home and he's like,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: holy cow, like this is good, right, didn't he straight
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: say I can't always think about you. I can't stop
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: thinking about you. You're all my mind all the time. Yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that's that's a sign. That was a good pick up there. Claire,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: nice job, because yes, that's that's a comment you make
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: during this show because there's so much going on and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: there's so much time that you don't see that person.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: You say it because you can't say too much. You
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: say it to let them know just how into them
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: you are. And I think he's really into it totally. Well,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: obviously we in the episode with a cliffhanger. Literally, Genevieve
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and Sanai are on the two on one day. The
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: only thing I really want to bring up here is,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you know, the women are very much in favor of
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: gen Nevieve coming back. Uh, Clayton's very stressed about this.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Day too. On ones are not ideal, They're very awkward,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: But Shane says, like some things that just aren't good,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. She says that Genevieve is pretty much
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be thrown off the side of the waterfall that
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you she hopes she can swim mhm, and that one
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: more girl is going to be going down because of her.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Why does she keep saying she's the one sending them
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the home, by the way, last time I checked, she's
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: not the one sending them home, Like, where does she
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: get this entitlement of I don't know that blows my
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: mind hearing yet I agree, And that's pretty much what
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you is where where is her
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: mind at? If you could again, maybe if you put
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: yourself in clayton shoes and you're trying to figure out
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: who you're going to send home on this to one
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: wonder how are you going to navigate this date to
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: try to make it beneficial for the parties involved? Like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: what are you reading into with Shai right now? What
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: are you seeing and how she's what she's saying, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: how she's behaving, and if you're the lead, how would
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you have handled it? Well? I think truthfully, we're seeing
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: this from an outside perspective. We're not seeing this from
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Clayton's perspective, which he I'm pretty sure has gotten tid
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: bits of pieces obviously from the roast and stuff. I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: don't think he's seeing the side of her personality that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: we're all seen. So it's hard to say what because
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I think he would be making a lot of different
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: choices at a lot of different times, maybe sooner or whatever,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: if he had seen all this stuff. But he's not
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: seeing all of it, so us seeing it it's very
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: cringe e. But I think I don't know. I think
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you kind of have to be at this point blind
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to be if this stuff keeps popping up. Obviously it's
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a two on one for a reason. Whether or not
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: he was the one who chose them to go on
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: this two on one, I think it's it's ah, he
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and I think it's a smart move.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: But it's scary for the girls, like how they have
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: no idea what's going to happen. It's really weird for
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Genevieve because Genevieve's kind of stayed out of it, like
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: she hasn't been as involved as what I think even
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the cameras have shown. And now she's on a two
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: on one day with the one person in the house
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: that everybody else in the house is upset over. She's
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: not got, she hasn't She's probably not feeling great about
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: her relationship with Clayton at this point. I can't imagine
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, yeah, we're thriving. I will say this,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: if Draft Kings had a bet on who was going home,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I would put my life savings on China going home.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: From this date, there's no shot in my mind, after
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the roast, after last week, after this group, after this
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: to on one day that she she makes it through.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I just cannot imagine that there's no way. And I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: really do think people's true colors eventually kind of show through,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and I don't I think they definitely at the end
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: of this date show through. They have to clear That's
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: my guess. I don't know how could you you got
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you got you gotta be blind to not see it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: You've got to be blind, or you've got to be
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: not putting your foot down. So the other side of this,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and this is how will close it is what could
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: be happening is and and again I have no problem
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: with this as a fan of the show, is the
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: producers could be like Cleveling, you're kind of interesting, aren't you.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, she's good looking, she's good kiss her.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: And they can come back to him and say, well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you should keep around a lot, and he could say, yeah,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: but all these women are having issues and it hasn't
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: been good since the beginning and the roads and all
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: this stuff, and they say yeah, but like who cares
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: what they think? It's up to you, And he could
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: be saying, you're right, I'm gonna keep her around because
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: he has I mean, because as much as he's seen it,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: he's still blinding himself to it. And he also isn't
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: putting his foot down. And and that's what I want
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: to see with him, is is he going to stand
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: up and say no for the sake of the house,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: for the women involved, for the Rachel's of this world
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: that I just am so into, for the Serenes of
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: this world that I'm so into. She's gonna go home
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: because it's not worth it. We'll see next week, right,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: It's that's why it's a cliffhanger, t b D. We
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: shall see. I this is where we would come in
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: handy And I don't know. I'm sure a lot of
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: people know this, but it would be so nice to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: have assist or a friend. Then you can call and
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: go what do you think I should do? And not
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: a producer who's going I should do it? You should
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: do it? You know, keep around. It would be very
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: nice to have a friend go what are you doing?
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? Step up? Be smarter? Uh? Well, Claire,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: that's this week's episode. We're gonna take a break. When
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: we come back, we have Bachelor headlines to break down.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I haven't read through him yet. I don't know if
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you're in any of them, but if you are, well,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: come on, we're coming straight from the source. We'll be
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: back with Claire. On this week's episode of Almost Famous,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: It's time for Bachelor Nation. The headlines are resident expert
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  Speaker 1: Ashley can Edtie is well, Ashley I can Edtie Haven
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  Speaker 1: is now a mom and unable to join us this week,
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  Speaker 1: So Claire is sticking around and talking through these headlines
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  Speaker 1: with us. The first headline is this Claire the Bachelor's
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  Speaker 1: Elizabeth were again ask fans to stop sending hate to
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  Speaker 1: Clayton after nai drama. So clear My question for you
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  Speaker 1: is it The headline pretty much speaks to the article.
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  Speaker 1: She's just asked people stop being mean. Do you agree
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  Speaker 1: with this? Should they stop being mean to Clayton? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: After last week's drama? One thousand percent? One thousand percent.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care who said, what, what did. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, everybody is human and we don't
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  Speaker 1: know just because we see an hour clip of somebody's
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  Speaker 1: life that happened a few months ago when this was filmed.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know people's mental states now and what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in their life and their heart and what they're
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  Speaker 1: going through. And so I think two that was that
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  Speaker 1: was a big move on Elizbeth's part, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that was the right thing to do, and it just
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  Speaker 1: shows her character, which is why I loved her. Um
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  Speaker 1: But I think in me it's speaking a lot about
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  Speaker 1: they know things with what each other going through, what
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  Speaker 1: Clayton's going through, what they're all going through, that the
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  Speaker 1: public has no idea. And I cannot emphasize this enough.
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  Speaker 1: I was on I'm sure you've been on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of it as well, Like there were points when
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  Speaker 1: I was at my absolute lowest, and there were times
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  Speaker 1: when people would just like, I'm a very emotional like
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  Speaker 1: I'm a strong woman and I could handle and take
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but there were comments, and when it's a
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  Speaker 1: hundred comments, and when you think you're just typing something
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  Speaker 1: and spouting off something to somebody, you think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna mindlessly send this, But there's hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of those, and hundreds of you should kill yourself, and
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of inappropriate, not okay things to be saying to
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  Speaker 1: people crossing the line, like relax, you guys, relax, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so I think that was a good move on
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  Speaker 1: your part. I do it. It's nice to see. It
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  Speaker 1: would have mental lot to me too. When I was
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  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, if one of the contestants who I
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  Speaker 1: sent home would have stood up and said, hey, let
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is who he is. Nobody did, maybe
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  Speaker 1: because they didn't believe that's who I was, But it
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  Speaker 1: would have felt great if they would have actually know.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody on my scene was very supportive and very helpful,
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  Speaker 1: and friends after the same thing, the same thing. All
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  Speaker 1: it takes, and and that's why I try to reach
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  Speaker 1: out to people and just be like, just so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here if you need me, because I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But it was undoubtedly one of the hardest things I've
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  Speaker 1: been through, not and not to make this is not
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  Speaker 1: about me, but I know exactly what he's going through
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  Speaker 1: and what they're experiencing. Even on the villain side of it.
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  Speaker 1: They still don't deserve this. It means they're struggling even
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  Speaker 1: more so have some grace to this. And at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, it doesn't affect your life, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need to be but the hate will affect their
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  Speaker 1: lives and it could be just that one comment, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that one comment they could push him over the edge
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  Speaker 1: that you don't want to be that person. That's a
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  Speaker 1: great statement. The hate won't affect your life, it will
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  Speaker 1: affect their life. Wow, Claire probably just throwing wisdom out
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  Speaker 1: there at us today. Um, Claire, we could use your
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  Speaker 1: wisdom on this headline because I think you're familiar with this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh lord, what is it currently in your life? The
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  Speaker 1: headline is this meet Jake Funk, Bachelor's star Hannah and
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  Speaker 1: Sluss alleged boyfriend. So the big word there is alleged
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly Hannah and is dating somebody Claire as somebody that
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  Speaker 1: has been allegedly dating somebody? How true do you believe
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  Speaker 1: this article is? And well then I'll break it down
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  Speaker 1: all right. Well, I think being in the bachelor world,
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  Speaker 1: all people really know us for is our love lives, right, so,
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  Speaker 1: and all people want and I like to pray and
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  Speaker 1: hope for the best of this is people want to
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  Speaker 1: see and are invested in your happiness, in your love life.
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  Speaker 1: But I will attest to this, there's been headlines before
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  Speaker 1: about me and other people. I would say, until she
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  Speaker 1: comes out with it, take it for a grain assault
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  Speaker 1: until she comes out and says, meet my boyfriend. This
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  Speaker 1: is what she's willing to share with you, This is
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  Speaker 1: what she wants you to know about it. If it's
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  Speaker 1: not talked about, if she doesn't come out and say it, um,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's there's a reason for that. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: jess and I did it for six months before we
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  Speaker 1: came out public. The reason is because it's like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even at six months, it's still a new relationship. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want to put too much stress on. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want people talking about it. You Also, if it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work out, I don't want a headline talking about poor
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jessica Clark from Franklin, Tennessee getting you know,
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  Speaker 1: and when she's like, you know, just this normal human
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  Speaker 1: who's like a tracker and it from well miss, and
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  Speaker 1: so I'm with few. Let's pause on the excitement and
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  Speaker 1: most of this, and just to give you some idea here.
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  Speaker 1: Jake Funk is an NFL football player. He plays for
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  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. He selected to the NFL and one,
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  Speaker 1: he had a great career at Maryland University. Uh, he
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  Speaker 1: was an incredible college athlete and so yes, he's on
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  Speaker 1: the Rams team who will be playing in the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl coming up. Maybe she'll get free tickets that could
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  Speaker 1: be a benefit. Have they have they talked about publicly
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  Speaker 1: that this is their relationship. No, no, So this is
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  Speaker 1: all coming from rumors that they spent time together in Malibu.
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  Speaker 1: And then Jake commented on Hannah's recent Instagram post and uh,
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  Speaker 1: she the caption reb brunch or lunch, what's your favorite?
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  Speaker 1: And he commented on that something. And so people like
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  Speaker 1: people commenting or people hanging out together equates a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's obvious. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: at this day and age, like I said, I know
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  Speaker 1: that's how people well know this contestants from the show.
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  Speaker 1: But there's also that great area in between that everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the real world goes through, which is that do
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  Speaker 1: I like him? You're still figuring it out. To let
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  Speaker 1: her figure it out and whether she is or whether
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  Speaker 1: she isn't, Like like I said, when she's comfortable, she'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. But until then, let it be that
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  Speaker 1: gray area where you're still trying to figure out maybe
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  Speaker 1: it is, maybe it isn't, And don't put the pressure
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  Speaker 1: on it the public to say even if it's positive
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  Speaker 1: to say a great couple, your love this or that,
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  Speaker 1: or no it's not good, or just let it happen organically,
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  Speaker 1: let it happen naturally. Yeah, don't put too much pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Pressure is heard relationship Well. The Bachelor Life Tour is
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  Speaker 1: coming back. Bachelor Live on Stage tour returns with seven
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  Speaker 1: fan favorite men looking for love. I was able to
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  Speaker 1: co host this tour right before COVID. Now I'm married
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  Speaker 1: and I have a puppy, and so I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: unable to hit the road with the tour this year.
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  Speaker 1: But Beckett Cokufern, who was my co host back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, is gonna be to hosting this tour. She's
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  Speaker 1: great at it. She's gonna thrive. But according to People,
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  Speaker 1: Rick Leach from season eighteen, Connor Brennan from season seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: Ivan Hall from season sixteen, Justin Glaze from season eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: Our seventeen, Andrew Spencer from season seventeen, and Rodney Matthews
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  Speaker 1: from season eighteen will be handing out roses at different
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  Speaker 1: spots on the tour as it crosses America. Claire any comments,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, good for them. Get it out there and
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  Speaker 1: put it out there. Why not this is these are
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  Speaker 1: regular people. As much as like we've talked about their celebrities,
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  Speaker 1: studo celebrities have been on TV. These are normal people
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  Speaker 1: wanting to date. So good for them, Good for them.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Well, a couple more headlines here. Last one
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  Speaker 1: headline that will just skim through because there's the more
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  Speaker 1: we talk about, the more I heard. Uh. Lauren Burnham
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  Speaker 1: says it was awkward watching our a Liondyke junior is
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  Speaker 1: vasectomy no dubh. That sounds like one of the weirdest
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  Speaker 1: things to have to be watching. It. Sounds like she
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  Speaker 1: was a part of the experience. Uh yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: very awkward for for her, She says. Um, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think she like watched the incision, but I think she
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  Speaker 1: was probably in the room or near the room, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like, and probably could hear. Um. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just not a fun surgery. I hope she didn't want. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what I need. That just feels that feels hard.
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  Speaker 1: Um headline here. Tasha Adams breaks her silence on leaving
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  Speaker 1: the clickbait podcast. The comments she says is I need
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  Speaker 1: to work on myself. Clara read through here the the article,
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  Speaker 1: then see if you have any comment. Tasha Adams is
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  Speaker 1: opening up about what prompted her to leave her role
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  Speaker 1: as co host on Bachelor Nations Clickbait podcast. The California
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  Speaker 1: native later gave more insight into her decision during the
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  Speaker 1: Clickbait episode Guess Who It's Me Tasha, She says, dang it,
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  Speaker 1: I really miss saying that the season sixteen co bachelorette
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  Speaker 1: comments and says she needs to take some time to
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  Speaker 1: work on herself. She's stepping away from Clickbait, also saying
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  Speaker 1: that it's in very, very capable hands with Joe and
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  Speaker 1: Natasha and welcoming Tia to replace Tasha as co host.
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  Speaker 1: So she's emotional, she's not thrilled. She spoke her piece
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  Speaker 1: at this point, and one day, she says, when she
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  Speaker 1: has more to say, she'll speak up about it. Clear
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  Speaker 1: any comments like this girl has done so much work
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: cirtation has just been NonStop, which is all good, positive things.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I think it's the right move for her.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a good move because she's just going, going,
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  Speaker 1: going and doing big things, and so for her to
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  Speaker 1: take a step back and really process a lot of you,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it. I think it catches up with you,
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  Speaker 1: and I think, um, I believe Hannah Brown did it
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  Speaker 1: as well, like you kind of have to take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and recenter yourself. So I think that's really
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  Speaker 1: smart things she could do. Yeah, it's I agree. At
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  Speaker 1: some point you can run so fast and that race
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  Speaker 1: becomes exhausting, and especially as you're trying to work on yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know for me, and you know when
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  Speaker 1: I was when I was in it, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: I was running, I felt like a robot. At times.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I was just an answering machine to
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  Speaker 1: anybody's requests. And I could, you know, stand up and
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  Speaker 1: say the right thing at the right moment or do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing at the right moment to fulfill a
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  Speaker 1: need of somebody else. But all within that you're losing yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And some people are great at it, like, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be really excited too after this is well done.
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  Speaker 1: To talk to Caitlin Bristow, who has been running a
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour for a long time now, she
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  Speaker 1: might be able to handle it. She kind of seems
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  Speaker 1: like she is. She has fun with it, she loves it.
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  Speaker 1: She enjoys it, but I wasn't. And it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: Tasia just need to take some time too. It sounds
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  Speaker 1: like kind of brown. It sounds like you did everybody
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  Speaker 1: you know, most people do. It takes a special human
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  Speaker 1: to go as fast as you know, Tastia and Caitlin,
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  Speaker 1: we're going, I think, doing everything, and it's wonderful stuff
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of. But some I think it's
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  Speaker 1: also a very easy distraction. And clearly Tassia has gone
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  Speaker 1: through unfortunate breakup. Um, regardless of the circumstances, they're never fun,
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  Speaker 1: public or not public, it's they're never fun. So to
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  Speaker 1: take time away to work on herself and to work
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  Speaker 1: on and focus on what she needs to I think
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  Speaker 1: that's literally the best thing she could do, because facing
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  Speaker 1: things is almost harder than to keep going going on
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  Speaker 1: and going going easy, to keep going, going, going, going, going,
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  Speaker 1: But when you really have to sit with yourself and
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  Speaker 1: have that time, it's it's the hardest thing, but the
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  Speaker 1: best thing. Yeah, well, wish and Tastia the best as
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  Speaker 1: she does step away, takes a break, yes, and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll you know, that's uh, that's the job of some
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  Speaker 1: people behind the scenes here We'll see if she ever
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  Speaker 1: comes back and talks more in detail about why she
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  Speaker 1: left Clickbait, and it could just be that she needs
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  Speaker 1: a break, which is fine. Well, Claire, that's all we
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  Speaker 1: got for today. That's our episode of Almost Famous. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining me, and thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: taking the time to sit down and share about your
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  Speaker 1: personal life with me and everybody listening. I know it's
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  Speaker 1: not always fun or I deal, and I know you
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  Speaker 1: get asked about all the time, but it does mean
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  Speaker 1: a lot for you to open up to all of us. No,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I think it's one of
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  Speaker 1: could be a blessing and a curse to be able
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  Speaker 1: to share so much. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: I love opening up and sharing because I think with
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  Speaker 1: everything that we go through, there's even if there's one
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  Speaker 1: person out there that can connect and relate to it
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  Speaker 1: and understand what you're going through, um, it can make
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  Speaker 1: make their day better. So I'm happy to be part
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  Speaker 1: of this kind of stuff, and and thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me on. We did great, now, Claire. Some people
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  Speaker 1: get this right, some people get this terribly wrong, but
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  Speaker 1: it's good either way. Follow my lead with that, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: this has Been The Almost Famous Podcast. We'll be back
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  Speaker 1: next week to break down another episode of this season's
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  Speaker 1: uh well Clayton's season of the Bachelor. With that I've
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  Speaker 1: Been Been, I have Been Claire perfect Hey, we'll talk
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