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Vikings lose to the Bears, We take some Shots, Forrest joins us! | TSH Ep. 114 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Goal Op. I'm Evan, I'm Austin. Were's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer talking
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And we are graced yet again with
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  Speaker 2: friend of the show Forrest, who is a Bears fan.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on too soon, say beer down.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, Hey, we're gonna have a lot. We have a
• 0:25
  Speaker 3: lot of fun watching Austin and Evan taking some shots
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  Speaker 3: and being shot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, both of which were punishments that we had to endure.
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  Speaker 1: But we also just had a lot of fun talking
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: about the beer that we enjoyed and this Vikings game. Unfortunately,
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: the Vikings loss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we did spend some more time talking about
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: a certain Michigan Wolverine quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, give it sometime. We also previewed the next
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  Speaker 3: couple of games for both the Bears in the Vikings.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, wherever you are, whatever team you root for,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'd be remiss if we didn't point out
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: that we've got friend of the show forest here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so sorry to step on your touchdown call.
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  Speaker 2: It always makes me laugh every time he's on. So
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  Speaker 2: peek behind the curtain here for our listeners. We kind
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: of record the whole show, and then once we record
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: the show, then we kind of go back at the
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  Speaker 2: end and record that minute intro like Hey, we're gonna
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: talk about this, this and this, and we always do this.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: Usually it's me that does this. We get a couple
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: of minutes into like starting to record and it's like, hey, guys,
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: you might not know Friend of the Show Choris is here,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: and everybody that's listening is like, we know, you just
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: introduced him in the intro like two seconds into the show.
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  Speaker 2: So hey, guys, you might not know, but Friend of
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  Speaker 2: the Show Fororis is here. But for all seriousness, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for coming on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that. Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: It stings a little bit because well.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you got me week one, remember.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that is pretty dirty and it.
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  Speaker 3: Almost I don't want to get into it too much
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  Speaker 3: right now, but it almost felt like deja voo.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, close to being that for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well we'll get into that a little bit, but Evan.
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  Speaker 1: I think, well, I think before we do the Wheel
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  Speaker 1: of purple punishments. We made a It wasn't a bet,
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  Speaker 1: but we we made an agreement we should say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season that if the Vikings
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: lost to the Bears, we would do a particular thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we need to do that particular thing. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to do that first. Just get
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  Speaker 1: it out of the way.
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  Speaker 2: Forrest, are you going to join us?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. What you said you were gonna
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  Speaker 3: I've had this before. Oh no, I think I think
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  Speaker 3: this is all on YouTube. This is this is like
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  Speaker 3: a punishment.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely is.
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  Speaker 3: And with the Bears winning, I don't think I should
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  Speaker 3: take part in this all right.
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  Speaker 2: So for listeners, if you aren't watching Evan right now
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, Spotify is holding up a bottle of Forrest.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 3: This is called malort. It's a Chicago staple.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would rather have a taple in my head.
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  Speaker 1: This literally.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a right of passage. When you go
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  Speaker 3: to Chicago, if you've never had it before, you go
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  Speaker 3: up the bar and you're like, you play play almost
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  Speaker 3: a joke on on your friends who've never had it before.
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  Speaker 3: For me, that's why I'm not doing this. I've done it.
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  Speaker 3: It's it doesn't doesn't seem it's it doesn't doesn't smell it.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of don't, but it doesn't smell terrible, kind
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  Speaker 2: of it kind of smells like old bar.
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  Speaker 3: It tastes like.
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  Speaker 2: So the Vikings lost to the Bears, and uh, almost
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  Speaker 2: as a joke, but we were definitely serious when we
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  Speaker 2: said it. We said, if the Vikings ever lose to
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  Speaker 2: the Bears, we will call Lee Evan, we will take
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  Speaker 2: a shot of milort. My goodness.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I have to say before you take it,
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  Speaker 3: I respect you guys doing this, and this is a
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  Speaker 3: welcome to Chicago without being I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to be welcome to Chicago. Last time I was
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  Speaker 2: in Chicago, I think we were watching the Vikings beat the.
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  Speaker 3: Bears and you should have took a shot then as
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  Speaker 3: a celebration.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Evan, after we do this, A recent punishment
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  Speaker 2: you did was you ate a mustard sardine. So I
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  Speaker 2: will just want to know your opinions of both of
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  Speaker 2: these flavors, the sardine and milert.
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  Speaker 3: So bombs up, guys.
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  Speaker 2: School school.
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  Speaker 1: Of yikes. That's so bitter, that's terrible, that is so bitter.
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  Speaker 3: Too much.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, okay, you're going to move to Chicago. He
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  Speaker 1: wants some more.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was expecting like throw up fermented in feet juice.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't good. It's not it's not good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not enjoyable, but it.
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  Speaker 1: It tastes like on the back end, it tastes like
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: you took a handful of dandelions and just ate them. Well,
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: it swallowed them.
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: It is wormwood clicker. I don't know exactly what that is, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody does.
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  Speaker 2: There is a hint of some kind of sweetness there.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the big Well, you have to have it
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: to make alcohol, I mean some type of sugar.
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  Speaker 2: So it burns.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it burns a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's like an alcohol burn. But it's like an evil
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  Speaker 2: an evil burn.
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  Speaker 1: The bitterness is bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's very bitter, which I have a bitter like. I
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  Speaker 2: usually go for bitter things.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it, but I expected worse.
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  Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's that's a fair statement. Yea for me.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing that I would seek to do a shout
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  Speaker 3: of that.
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  Speaker 2: Again, like if I ever do another shot, it will
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  Speaker 2: be if the Vikings lose to the bears. We gotta
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. Now we have the bottle that
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  Speaker 2: hopefully that lasts about it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think it will expire anytime soon,
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  Speaker 3: but I would.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I would do that as like a
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  Speaker 2: party trick, like I'll I'll get through it. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not good. I wouldn't choose to have it like somebody.
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  Speaker 3: It's a punishment type shot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if somebody was like, hey, i'll buy you
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  Speaker 2: a drink, but I gotta pick it, and if they
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  Speaker 2: handed it to me and I asked like, oh, it's alert,
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  Speaker 2: I'd still take it.
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  Speaker 3: So so it's it's funny. So like when you're like
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: in England and everything, the punishment shot is tequila over there,
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  Speaker 3: like really yeah, they just they it's it's that's then.
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  Speaker 3: So I was making a joke with one of my
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  Speaker 3: buddies who lives over there, and I was like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta try him alert. If you think tequila is
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  Speaker 3: the punishment, you've not seen anything yet.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, well yeah, I mean not good, but
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  Speaker 2: like I'm proud.
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  Speaker 3: I'm proud. I'm proud of you two for for doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Though it could have been worse.
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  Speaker 2: You gave a little bit of a thought, like you
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  Speaker 2: said the Danelion thing, What what are your thoughts about this?
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  Speaker 1: It was actually okay on the front end, like yeah
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  Speaker 1: in your mouth and like the initial swallow was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's pretty intense. I don't think it's high proof
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  Speaker 1: of first, I think you got to take a shot, man, No,
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  Speaker 1: I think you gotta do it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I've done. I've done my milerk shot years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's a thirty five or no, thirty five percent, yes,
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  Speaker 1: seventy proof.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not high.
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  Speaker 1: It's not super had, but it feels a lot higher
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  Speaker 1: than it is with the burn and the intensity of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. It was it was warm and
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  Speaker 1: somewhat pleasant to start, and then it just got worse as.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: There's something there. Yeah, it's not one hundred percent death.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: And it's still it's still hanging in the back. It's
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  Speaker 1: like right in the back of your throat, right before
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  Speaker 1: it goes down. It's like I can feel it just
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: sitting there.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: I would be open to seeing and testing out if
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  Speaker 2: there's anything to mix it with.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: So not right now, No, No, So it's Molart's actually
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: getting more popular. I don't know how, whatever reason, but
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: it is where even I've heard of beers being aged
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: in barrels, and I was like, that might I might try,
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  Speaker 3: even though I think it'll still be disgusting.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: That might make it worse.
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  Speaker 3: Though it could make it worse, but I would try it.
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  Speaker 3: I would. I'd probably try that knowing what malort is,
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  Speaker 3: but I want to actively seek to.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, you've had molart, You've had a mustard sardine
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  Speaker 2: evan Compare the flavors, and which would you want to
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: have if you had to choose one?
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  Speaker 1: If I had to choose one like one shot or
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  Speaker 1: one sardine.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Like an equivalent, like an equivalent amount of.
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  Speaker 1: Each, Okay, and I only have to do one, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to. But it's I'm being forced to
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  Speaker 1: do this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's this, or you skydive.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm gonna go with them alert just because it
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  Speaker 1: was over faster. I didn't have to chew anything.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like straight, I probably have to agree down
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: the house. Well, it's disgusting. I think it clears that faster.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: The fishiness stuck around a whole lot longer. With the sardines,
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  Speaker 1: and honestly I didn't mind that either. I was kind
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: of nervous about that too, But yeah, sardines with like
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  Speaker 1: a mustard sauce not good.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: I still have that other can, by the way, I
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: have not sound appealing. I've gotten hungry enough yet to
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: break that one out. But hopefully we don't have to
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: do that again. We definitely don't have to, at least
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: until next season unless, for whatever reason.
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: The Vikings. I'll make you a promise it's being recorded.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: If next year, I'll just say next year, okay, yes,
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: if if the Vikings do beat the Bears, I will
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  Speaker 3: do a shout of alert.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: What if it was this will not happen because the
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Vikings aren't making the playoffs, But what if they met
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: in the wild card round and the Vikings beat the Bears? Again,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: not gonna happen, But what if this.
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: Year I would I would say that would qualify Instead
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  Speaker 3: of next season, I would do it this.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to the next time the Vikings beat the
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Bears and you're on the show, I will do it
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: all right, done, deal, We'll keep the bottle of the
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: millort right here at the bar.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: That almost needs to be another podcast studio decoration. We
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: got kids, but not old enough that we're worried about them.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: So they don't usually come in here. So well, we
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: got to punish ourselves again because we picked the Bears
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  Speaker 1: to lose this game and the Vikings to win. And
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: it was close there at the end, but to close.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: There's some rough ones.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've got a Red Riders shot to the butt, which.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Does not say butt right there where else? Would you
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: want to get shot with the belly?
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  Speaker 1: You want to get shot in the gut?
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: I would do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take mine right out.
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  Speaker 2: Careful, you're being recorded right now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take it right in theh You said it again, Well, sir,
• 13:07
  Speaker 5: this is a family, you have students, So.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, I was intentionally doing that.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, we got some other punishments.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just for.
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  Speaker 1: Not being subtle. I was trying to be subtle.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well no, I'm not subtle at all.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: Did we put the pickles back on here? Eat a
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: full jar of pickles?
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  Speaker 6: Ye?
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: So we do have a couple of full jars of
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: pickles that we could eat.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: That's the when you do you reload it with a
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  Speaker 3: different punishment or you just keep it.
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  Speaker 2: Usually just take take it off.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so there's a couple on here that have
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  Speaker 1: already been done. So if we land on them, we're
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: gonna have to take them off, and we're gonna have
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: to spin again.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: And some will have to get creative if you know,
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: something like we only have one lion stream, you know, like,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: so all right, figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to do it right now here we
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: go that is loud. We will be We already did
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  Speaker 1: that one. And you just said that the sardines are
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: at your house.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: We'll take that on eating sardines.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: We will spin again. Oh no, Austin can't handle the suspense.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: We're just talking about it, all right, How are we
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: doing this? Seven?
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: We're gonna leave the desk, Yeah, we need a location change.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: We're going to go out to the hall and we
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: will let Forrest do the honors. I guess do it.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: I've kind of been looking forward to shooting.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: I think you guys should shoot each other.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, who want us to shoot each other?
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, even though it would be fun, I think
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: you guys you.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Can you can film the whole film.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: This is a quick reminder if you're only listening to
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the audio version. You can keep doing that if you want,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: but it's gonna be way more entertaining to pull us
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: up on YouTube. Whatever time stamp we are right now.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Check it out.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: We'll definitely have to post on this.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, this will be its own video too.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: But next time you see us, one of us will
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: be shooting. Hold on, who's gonna go first? Should we
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: like rock paper scissors?
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: For who shoots first?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Let's do it just so that we have just one.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Winner gets to shoot first. Correct, Winter decides, Winter decides, okay,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: best of one?
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Three shoot?
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, just this one. Yep, we're not doing best the three?
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  Speaker 2: Correct, rock paper scissor shoot? Rock paper scissor? Shoot? All right?
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna shoot?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna let you shoot me first.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Oh man, save the best for.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Last, guys.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: All right, Vikings fans are crazy, all right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Evan won Rock paper Scissors. He chose to go to
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: be shot first. He is already ready. And you you
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: primed this, didn't you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, we're ready to go. Is there a safety?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: There was a safety that was about all right, all right,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: here we go. My my shoes on the door.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm recording nothing.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: All right, are you ready? Are you sure? Let come on?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, all right here are you ready?
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: How you do?
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: How you doing it?
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I want to see if we can once we record
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: and see if we can really slow mode to see
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the maybe because I couldn't.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: I couldn't see it until your reaction.
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  Speaker 3: Say I missed it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: We gotta do it again.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I could have done that. That's been too mean.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Get over there, all right? You what do you recommend?
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: Don't don't clinch? Don't clinch the do not clinch.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: We're still alright, alright, alright, I'll record you first, get
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: you ready, and then.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Wants to get shot right in the gut. So that's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: what we're going with. It's it's ready to go.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Wanting the guts? Is he winning the gut?
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Dude?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: You want the butt?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: All right? Here we go three.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I heard it here is you found it ended up
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: over here somewhere?
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: All right, both of you?
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: What?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna go back into the studio and
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you can tell the audience how that all felt.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But all right, we're back. That was an experience.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we are too old to be
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: shooting each other with bb guns. But it's the Vikings.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: They made us do it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: You shoot your eye out, kid, and it's.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Kind of fun. I mean, we used to mess around
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: in college with stupid stuff like that, but here we are.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a grilled grown men doing it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it kind of worked out perfect because if
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Forrest wasn't here, we would have had to do something
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: with the tripod or tried to figure that out.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So I'm always glad to record your misery.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well let's end our misery. Yeah, and let's drink
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: some beer. We're like way far into Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's probably the dupest we've ever gone with before introducing
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: our first beer. But yeah, I picked up the beer tonight.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: It is from one of our one another one of
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: our favorites here, Big Road Brewery. I feel like we've
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: had them a lot recently.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: We have. Yeah, but that's not a bad thing.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, it is there, nineteen thirty nine Amber Ale
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's meaning towards that number. I don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: know it. Big Grove, if you ever see this and
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: have the opportunity to let us know, Uh, the only
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: description says our roots we will remain. It's a bright
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: copper amber ale. The can looks really cool.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: We will maintain.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if I could read, I did just get shot,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: so and I have mylort flowing through my veins right now.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, have you guys, either of you tried
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: this before?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had it before, not on the show,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but i've had it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, this will be my first.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: It's a good selection.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It's an amber, so of course i've had it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even think about that it's an amber,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: even though I just read that. But yeah, I'm excited.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: The can looks really cool, kind of vintage looking art.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: From Yeah, I think they've changed the the can design
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: because it wasn't. It wasn't as cool as a can
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: as it is now.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. The beer definitely amber. It's not
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the darkest amber we've ever had, but the very amber. Okay,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: we'll camber. But yeah, it looks really good, good head retention.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to try it. Right, let's gol school.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Hell, that tastes way better than Alert for sure.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: That got rid of the alert flavor for me. This
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: is delicious, solid amber, really good flavor. I think the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Can says it's five point six, which is point six.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like for Ambers, it's like on the lower end.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I'd say it's about right up. I'd say Ambers are
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: usually between five and six, so I think it's right
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: right where it needs to be.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it tastes really good. I like it a lot.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: It has a nice caramel caramel flavor to it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Agreed, and some malts too. You probably have the most
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: developed beer palette of us. Is there anything else that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: stands out to you about this one?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I get like at the end, like almost like a
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: floral hot flavor to it. Okay, so obviously you wouldn't
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: want to do any like citrus type hops for amber,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: so yeah, yeah, but yeah, it has little more of a.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Laural nice Yeah, I like it a lot. I'm excited
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to try a few more here and give a final
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: opinion here towards the end of the show, Thank you
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Big Row for Bruins. Such a good beer.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I am tasting that, just a little bit of hoppiness
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: on the very tail end of it. It's good. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: All right, Well that's all we have to talk about tonight.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, and we'll see you guys. After
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the Vikings beat the Packers next week, right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'll actually be cheering for your Vikings.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. Of course, we do have to talk
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: about the Vikings losing to the Bears. It was a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: closer one than I thought it would be. Even in
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: my pregame last week prediction, I thought the Vikings would win,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: but I thought they would win a little bit more
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: handedly than the end score ended up being.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Well, and let's be honest too, I think it was
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: closer than it should have been.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which you could say the same for both teams.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Bears and their fans are walking
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: away with a win. You feel good about it, There's
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: obviously always whenever you win, there's some things to be
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: happy about. But Forrest, I'll let you speak to it
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. But I feel like both of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: these teams made their fair share of mistakes during as slowly.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would say, yeah, the first half Bears,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: you know, could have gone up a lot more capitalized,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and then the second half, yeah, I mean, especially at
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: fourth chorta. I Like I said in the beginning segment,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: it was almost like deja vu from Game one week one,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: where Bears had a good lead going in the fourth quarter,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: and you guys just came back and even took the lead.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think going in the fourth, wasn't it
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: sixteen to three? For it was so, you know, as
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: much as you know, I kept saying to myself, all
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: field goals are not going to do it, I still
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: felt pretty good sixteen to three going in the fourth
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: court the way our defense was playing, so all right,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So I guess we can just dive in roses and thorns.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Evan for the Vikings. What was your rose for this game?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I think just the fact that they kept it close
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: at the end despite a pretty shaky game all the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: way around. I know the criticism has already been swirling
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: about JJ McCarthy, and we can get into that later.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeh sure.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I think coaching there's like Melort still stuck in the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: back having to clear it out. Sorry, I think the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: coaching was a little questionable too, And so all of
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that to say, to keep it as close as they did,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to have a shot to come back, and I mean
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: they were up seventeen to sixteen with what fifty seconds
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: fifty seconds left? So I did feel and I kept
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: screaming at my TV like, you scored too early. You
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: scored too early. You needed to be a little more
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: patient there. But I think they were just in a groove.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Koc and JJ McCarthy were just grooving with each other,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and Kosi finally felt like he cracked open the playbook
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: for him and they'd found a rhythm and they got
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. So credit to them for that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, keeping it close at the end is my rose.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: There's really not much else that you can talk about
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: positively from a Vikings fan standpoint.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting you saying that kind of reminded me
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: of a tweet that I read earlier from Front of
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the Show Dustin Baker, and I'm trying to find it
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: quickly now, but it might take me too long. But essentially,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it was something to the tune of like, it's kind
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of funny that the Vikings drafted JJ McCarthy, a guy
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: that is terrible but has the clutchest Jenes ever and
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you know, can is only good in clutch time, apparently
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: against the Bears. So again, if I could find oh,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: he says, for however long it lasts, it will remain
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: mind boggling to me that the Vikings somehow drafted the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: quarterback who is cold blooded and great in the clutch,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and that's it. Like he's only good then, so so far,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that's that's about all we've seen. So yeah, I mean
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: kept it close in the end, but there's a lot
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: of a lot of tough plays for fifty What did
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Chris Carter say? Fifty nine minutes of the game is terrible? Ye,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: my Rose. I mean, when you're trying to find silver
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: linings in a game like this, you know some players
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: will break out. But I think Dallas Turner in this game,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this is probably his best game as a pro. He's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: really been turning it up a lot lately, which is
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: nice because we've been criticizing Queasy for spending so much
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to get him Dallas Turner for not producing even though
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: he has two All Pros in front of him on
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the depth chart. But now that he's getting some runtime,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Dallas Turner is really starting to look good. And he
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: learned from his lesson in you know, the penalty he
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: got in the sack against Lamar Jackson last week, in
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: the sack he got against Caleb Williams this week, he
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: didn't put his whole body weight on him. So that's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: always good Forrest from a Bears fans perspective, Right, there's
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a lot more roses from this game with a win.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Right, So, I mean, I mean, there's definitely roses. I mean,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: you were asked me at this time of the season,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: what I thought the Bears would be record would be definitely,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: want to say seven to three. Definitely. Won't say we're
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: in loan, first place in the heavily you know what,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I'd say, one of the tougher divisions in the NFL.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: But here we are. Bears are finding ways to win.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: If it's you know, last year, I don't think we
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: win any of these close games. But Ben Johnson's got
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: believers out of this team. You know where they they
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: play the full sixty. So I gotta, I gotta while
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: they're giving me, you know, many heart attacks and everything.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Welcome to being a twenty twenty two Minnesota Ice.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I was reading an article. We're right now,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Bears have five and I think, what did you guys
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: have eight? I think in twenty twenty two.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Single game where yeah one score games, they're eight and one.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we still got a few games to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: get to your level. But but it's it's it's fun
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: to watch. I mean, yes, it's it's it's intense, but
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: it's fun to watch your team compete week and week out.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It really makes you feel alive, it does. I mean,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: we'll see what the Bears, you know, in the next
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: two weeks. They got Pittsburgh without Aaron Rodgers, it sounds like,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: but then they got Philly on on Black Friday after Thanksgiving,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: so it should be it should be interesting what the
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: next couple of weeks bring.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something interesting that I didn't realize until just now
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: as we're talking about it. The Bears may be leading
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the NFC North, but they have a negative six point
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: different Oh yeah, that's interesting.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: But you gotta think a lot of that's Week two
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: against the where they just got blown out fifty two
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: to like twenty.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: One, for sure, and then you have a game against
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the Vikings where, yes, the Bears one, you can't take
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it away from him, but it was a two point win. Yep.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's a big difference there.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: But it's just interesting the two teams. The Lions are
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: in third place right now and have a plus seventy
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: six and the Packers are ahead.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: And that is the Bears game where they blew them
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: up and blew us out fifty twelve.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: So the Lions I think are showing some signs of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: weakness though, And I think I think you know some
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of the things that you said preseason about the Lions
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: losing both of their coordinators to head coaching positions.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I agree. But let's also say, I mean Philly, it's Philly.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I mean they're they're good, They're a good team. They
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: made the Packers look selly the week.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Before, and have the Bears played Philly.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Know, we'll play them on Black Friday, so.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: They've the Eagles have already beat the Packers and the Lions, and.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Well, so it's funny. I watched the meme, was like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: so the Bears and Eagles fans are are beating up
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: at each other's foes, you know, in this because we
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: beat Dallas, the Giants and the Command and they've taken care.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Of you know. I saw that. I saw a tweet
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: that happened in it that was funny. Well, we should
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: get to thorns. Yeah, I'll get to mine really quick,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and then I want to hear yours. Mine's not great. Really.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: The most frustrating thing for me was all the dropped
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: passes from these wide receivers and we can be real
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and honest as Vikings fans that JJ McCarthy was not
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: accurate on Sunday. That was and I wondered if his
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: hand that got injured would be a problem. And he
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: was wearing some sort of bandage or something, something tape.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Or brace or something on his hand. Yeah, and even
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: that whole arm.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I haven't paid enough about that, it paid enough attention
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to his wardrobe to know if this is true. But
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I recognized on the arm that he had the bandage
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: on his hand. That was the only one. He had
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a full arm sleeve, like a T shirt sleeve. The
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: other arm was like a you know, regular T shirt sleep.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: For all we knew he could have been like taped
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: up like crazy all. Maybe not, but like it's quite nice.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: But regardless of that, regardless of the injury that he
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: sustained last week and his inaccuracy, there were balls that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: were put in the hands of these Watts and they
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: just missed him. They just missed him. That Jordan Addison
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: won early in the first half stands out to me
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: as one of the most egregious because it would have
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: been a potential touchdown. Yeah, at least or at least
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: this huge I don't even know how many yards it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: would have been, forty fifty yard pass across the middle
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and it just went right through his fingertips. Adam Thielen
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: dropped one that was an easy grab. T J. Hawkinson
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: dropped one that was an easy grab. I think Justin
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Jefferson even had a drop. I think he did, which
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: is rare for him. So that's a thorn in a
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: lot of ways, Like, yep, you have a young quarterback. Yep,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: he's developing and growing and trying to figure out how
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to play the game at the pro level. And yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we can all admit that he was not accurate like
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you would want an NFL quarterback to be, but he
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: still puts some of those balls in the right position
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and they couldn't bring them in and that's frustrating.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which highlights, like you just said, the dropped passes
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: or the passes where yeah, it would have been a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: highlight reel catch for that first one to Addison, but
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: it hit both of his hands. It wasn't quite accurate enough.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: But all those drops really highlight the inaccurate balls, the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: ones that Justin Jefferson doesn't even give his receivers a
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: chance to catch, and both of those result in an
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: incomplete pass, and they both you know, end drives or
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: make things harder. So it's not looking great so far.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: So heading into my my thorn. I know it's only
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: been five starts, but we're a year and a half
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: into his career and JJ McCarthy is taking a while
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to develop. I'm not jumping off the train yet. I
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: have lost a ton of confidence in him, but I'm not.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not one of the guys it's like cut him
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: or bench him because Brozer has got to be better. Like, no,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: this is what you get when you develop, when you
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: draft a rookie quarterback and you commit to developing him,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: it's not all gum drops and rainbows. I mean Caleb Williams, Yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: he didn't look amazing against the Vikings, but they still
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: won and he still had some really good throws in
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: that's good place. But he's obviously showing signs of developing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And last year there were times, i mean, his head
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: coach got fired. It wasn't just because of Caleb Williams,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: but there are times where it's like he's supposed to
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: be the first overall pick, the.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Best prospected the Bears fan that that, I'm glad to
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: see some progress and it speaks once again, Ben Johnson developing.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: And I guess that goes back to your point, you know,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: with koc I I agree with you. I will say,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: even though you say year and a half, Yes, JJ
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: didn't play the last year, and while he's there studying film,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: playbook and getting to know the play you know, all
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: that stuff, there's different than actually taking live snaps and everything.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: So literally, literally literally, I'm with you. I'm obviously a
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: JJ fan, being a Michigan fan. Give the guy a
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: little more time. I mean, you saw what he can
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: do leading his team down and getting the lead. Yes,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: it wasn't perfect, but he kept his team in it
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: and when it mattered, I mean drove the team down
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: potentially for a game winning you know score for almost
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: a second time against the Bears the season.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, as far they left too much time on
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the clock, but JJ, he walked off that field and
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: very well could have not touched field again and the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Bikings could have.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Been And I guess that here Here's my ask is
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: if the Vikings were to hold on, would you be
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: as critical JJ, I mean the silver lining but but
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: but at the same time, the only thing left in
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: your mind is, well, yeah, he didn't do great, but
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: man did he come back in the fourth cord and
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: lead the team and he got a victory. So it
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: leaves a different mental state. While you can be yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: he still needs improve, I don't think you're looking as
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: he's just blew the whole game, you know.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I think our tone would be different, I don't. I mean, obviously,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: if the Vikings won, our tone would be like, oh, yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the Vikings won, whereas you know, we're sitting here like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, they lost again, you know, and the Vikings
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: are on the outside looking in. Right now. For the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: playoff picture.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I don't see the player.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: There's there's very little hope that the Vikings make the playoffs.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: They have to basically win out at this point to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: even have a shot in this super tough division. But
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to reference specifically the end of the game scenario, I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: think I said I would come back to this. This
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: is me coming back to it. It it felt like
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: they left too much time on the clock and Ben
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Johnson had done just the opposite. I think either in
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: late in the second half or maybe in the third quarter,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: there was a really long drive that the Bears had
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and they got a first down like inside the twenty
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: yard line, they could have taken a shot at the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: end zone. Then they got another first down like inside
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the five yard line, could have taken a shot at
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the end zone and did it and just kept chipping away,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: kept chipping away, and then eventually they got Manongai into
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the end zone, which I was paying careful attention to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: because we played each other in fantasy and you had him.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I ended up eking out a win. But anyways, that's
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: beside the point. That shot that you fired at me,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: he probably came with a little bit more, I think.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: But I think coaching is a big deal here, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I think if Kevin O'Connell had just a fraction of
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: more patients at the end of the game there in
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: that scenario, not leaving so much time on the clock,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: then really the only opportunity that the Bears have would
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: have been that, Like, if everything else remains the same,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that kickoff return that was big for the Bears at
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the end of the game might have been it, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: they may not have had as much time to get
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the ball even closer for Santos to kick the game winner.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: And now you're talking about, you know, a sixty something
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: yard field goal that Santos possibly misses, as opposed to
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the forty something yard or that he knocked through to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: win the.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Thirty eight yards. It's still not an easy one, especially
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: for a guy that had missed one early earlier. I
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: think the end of that game, if everything else played
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: out the same way, you know, same inconsistency, same score,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the end of that game, the end of the Vikings,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you know, final scoring drive they had. If you have
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: all of that the same with either a JJ McCarthy
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: four years from now, you know, after a few years
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: of development, or you know, an actual veteran maybe even
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a Carson Wentz. I'm not trying to start anything, but
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: an actual veteran quarterback. Maybe the mindset is less because
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I got the sense at the end of that Viking
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: scoring drive it was like, Okay, we've kind of bled
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: some clock, but now it's just score if you can.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You got to score because we need the points. With
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback, it'll be more okay, Hey, if this
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: is here, take it if it's not. Our plan is
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to bleed ten more seconds. You know, you kind of
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: work the clock a little bit more because we know
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: we've got the experience to figure out something else here.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: But I really think at the end it was like,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: all right, JJ, just just score and then the defense
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: will rely on that.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I'll also say, I think that's a great point. But obviously, JJ,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: on that last drive was in a rhythm. You don't
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: want to like slow down and get him out of rhythm.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: He was on point. So I know what you're saying.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You left too much time oclock obviously, but you just
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: don't know what was gonna happen if you try to
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: slow him down, Well, it could have ended up good
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: for you guys.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: But but well, I don't think you slow him down
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: in the red zone. I think you slow him down
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: before that. Yeah, I think you you throw in a few.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Running plays and then it's really hard because you're not
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: even close to scorings.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Catch is. It's really kind of a no win situation.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And I think it played out the way it played
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: out right, Like we can't go back and change it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: We have to accept the reality of what it was.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But I still think there's some some coaching that's to blame,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm not pinning the entire thing on KOC. I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: thought he called a much better game this time around
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: than he did last week, and that's It's.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: It also helps when you don't have eight false starts. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: they only had one.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: The Vikings had very few penalties. And the other thing
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I'm noticing looking at the box score is JJ McCarthy
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: didn't take a sack.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the first games he's never taken
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: as sout.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So that means this offensive line really kind of bought
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: in and just said, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna protect
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: this kid, and for the most part they did. I mean,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he was pressured quite a bit. There was one throw
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I know he made like a hit, like got a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: helmet one of his guys as he was trying.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: To get over that was on him stepping up or
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I want to get to Forrest's thorn before we forget
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: about it. The Bears thorn for the Bears.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I have to say, and I think every
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Bears fan will say it red zone efficiency and it
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: showed again in this game. It's shown all these close
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: games the Bears are winning, they're selling for too many
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: field goals, and while they're making those field goals, man,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: if you gotta you gotta put it in the end zone,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: and then you know, we don't have as many of
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: these close games hopefully.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was kind of surprised with the way
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the Bears ended that game out. Not that we have
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to sit in the final minute of this game in
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the whole podcast, but when the Bears got that unfortunate
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings big kickoff return to start off the bat,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: they were, you know, pushing field goal range right off
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the kickoff return, and then they kind of bled clock,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: which you know, that's what you do. But I was
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: surprised they didn't try a little harder to make that
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: an easier field goal.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: For I agree for me, and I don't want to
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: question Ben Johnson and Swift had a great game, but man,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I wish they'd feed Manonguy a little bit more on
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the rock because that dude the one game he was
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: a starter with Swift out he had what one hundred
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and eighty some yards of rushing. But Swift had a
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: great game, and so I'm not trying to take away.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It's I think they just need to give Manonga a
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: few more snaps because the dude can have that ability
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: to get easy, you know, five yards per carry.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also I mean Manonga did account for
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: he was tackled for loss.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a few of those were like toss backs, though
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it wasn't like straight handoffs. I think I think the
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: play call because I mean, on that once scoring touchdown
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: that we did have asung guy from like the four
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: yard line just plowed, you know, and it almost went untouched. Basically, Yeah,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: you're right.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I mean the Bears if they had been more efficient
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: in the red zone, if those four field goals would
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: have been touchdowns this blowout. We canceled the podcast this
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: week like it's it is a terrible you must drink
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a bottle. Yeah you might alert, yeah, but I mean
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it all goes down. I think the Vikings and the Bears,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: at least for yesterday, were fairly well matched up.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I would say both games to be honest with you, Yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: they they both obviously made mistakes in both games, but
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: they came down to it. I mean the games were
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: close on each instance.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Well, and they say every year like there's not a
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: giant difference between a winning record in the NFL and
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a terribly losing record. Yeah, you sometimes get teams like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the one year the Lions went completely winless. It's like
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you guys are Yeah, you're not a couple of plays away.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: But like, I mean, I feel like the Vikings really,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and even like the Bears last year, really, if a
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: couple one or two plays each game go a little
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: bit different, maybe you have three or four more wins.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Like, it's just it's one of those years for the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Vikings and it's frustrating to live in. I agree.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm passing out more beer. Should we do game balls?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do game balls. I'll just go first the Vikings.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I think, Evan, I can see who you chose to.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think we just chose statistically the highest performers on
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the offense and defense pretty much. I'll go with Aaron Jones.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I don't have the stats right in front of me,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: but I think he had close to one hundred yards.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: He didn't get quite too exactly one hundred yards. Excuse me, Burpin.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Here the running game is improving for the Vikings, though
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I got it right here. He had seventy yards okay,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: which I mean four point four per Jordan Mason actually
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: had a better average at seven.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And a half for a care no longer a touchdown run.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So the touchdown run helped with that for sure. But
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I think his Vikings fans, you gotta be happy with
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a better running game, and it seemed like, especially in
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the first half, you could almost and I think the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Bears defense caught onto this. Kevin O'Connell was gonna run
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: on first down, m h without any batting of the eye.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Like I think he got so much flak last week
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: for not running the ball late in the game and
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: giving up on the run and blah blah blah whatever
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the narrative was. So he's like, all right, I'm gonna
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: run on first down. I like I found myself talking
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to the TV, like all right, it's gonna be a run. Yep,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a run. That's what it's gonna be.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: He's gonna hand the ball off. I don't think they
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think they passed on first down until late
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: in the game.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Oh and I don't have the stats up, but I
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: did listen to Kevin O'Connell's Monday press conference today and
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I forget exactly what he said or what the question was,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: but the question was something to the tune of like
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: we noticed you were more bad in your play calling
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: this week, or something like that. The question was alluding
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: to that, and his answer was very professional, very nice,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: but almost like like if you could translate it, it
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: was basically him saying, like, well, I got in a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: flack for not running the ball last week, so we're
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: lucky to be more balanced this week. And I think
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: you guys could see that I was trying to run
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it and it ended up working, so good for you guys.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: As you mentioned it again, wasn't that sarcastic, but it
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: was kind of how how it felt when he answered
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: that question. He definitely knew, like people are talking.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Through the professionalism and through the like sugarcoating it. You
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: can you can sense when somebody's frustrated like that, and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you know when you're under the microscope as you are
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: as an NFL head coach, like you've got to be
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: able to deal with that. You got to be able
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to and like sometimes I've seen other coaches do this,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick was notorious for this, Like you just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: stand pat like that's what I did, Yeah, like, that's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: what I did. I mean, how many press conferences did
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: we watch of his in his NFL here? And it
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: was just like, what else do you want to know?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I did. Don't read into it. You're reading
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: into it too much. I mean you would borderlines. They like,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: shut up to these reporters.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: KOC also got his fair share of questions about JJ
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: McCarthy today, and one of them was like, what did
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you see in his footwork? And basically KFC's answer was like, well, again,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: kind of not this direct, but it was he didn't
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: really he made it harder on himself on a lot
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: of plays with his footwork than he should have. And
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I think you saw that, but we do see you like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: when he drops back and he does get the opportunity
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to have good footwork, then we do see good things.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: So he kind of turned it into there's the bones
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: are there, we see the work ethic, we see the
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the you know, toughness.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I think the I think things just need to slow
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: down just a smid for smidge for JJ, and I
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: think I think it'll work click a little bit more.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: But but interestingly enough, when the game sped up at
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the end, of the game when it was this like
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and it I don't think they were necessarily in a
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: no huddle, but they were. They were moving more quickly,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: they had this sense of urgency about them, and that's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: when he seemed to click. So I think there's got
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: to be this balance with JJ. It's not this like, okay,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: let me like totally just you know, break down the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: play for you in your helmet so that you can
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: then translate that to the guys in the huddle, and
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna take everything down to point five seconds
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: on the play clock. Like it wasn't that right? And
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's a balance with JJ.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's just development. He just we
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: are witnessing and experiencing the frustrations of what will hopefully
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: be a good quarterback who is currently developing. And I
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: know me personally, I kind of thought, like, okay, twenty
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: twenty four, Donald's holding it down for this year, and shoot, JJ,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: he's spending the whole time in the classroom and he's
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: figured it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Out and he'll be ready to let's let's think about
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: this though. Honestly, like all of that draft class, I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: so cale Williams obviously. Yeah, they had his hiccups last year,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: not all his fault with the terrible line. You look
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: a guy like Drake May, because that's who everyone's saying, Man,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: we should have had Drake May if trade. They weren't
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: great last year, and part that's probably coaching, but this
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: year he's doing wonders.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: So I've told you before, Drake May is having the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: season that we wanted to.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Have this I mean, okay, So then Michael Pinnox, I
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: mean hurt, hurt, but he's thrown. I mean, he's good,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: but he's not blowing anyone's mind. And Nicks, I mean
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: bo Nix is up and down, and obviously last year
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: he's got a great defense though, I mean with the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Denver Broncos and Sean Payne is the great QB. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: So so I'm just saying, you look, you look at
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: and then and then uh the Jade Daniels obviously had
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: an incredible rookie year, but people started tune in with
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: him this year. So he's even when he was healthy,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: while still very good, not near as effective as he
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: was last year. So I'm just saying this is JJ's
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: first true year. So give, give, give Redans developed development.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. It just it sucks in the moment
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: it does. And then you get people who genuinely don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: know anything about football, but they've been a quote unquote
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: fan for sixty years and the first get rid of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: JJ and fire everybody and Quacy and Case, get them
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: all done. That's such an idiotic thing to say right now, like, yeah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: it sucks because you're watching a quarterback develop. He's probably
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: hopefully gonna get better. And I'll tell you what, we
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: could cherry pick a lot of plays already from five
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: games where it's like that throw was nasty, Yes, in
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the best way. Absolutely, he the bones are there and
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: it's not like this. It's not your Marcus Russell where
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: they give him a playbook DVD and they're like, all right,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: watch this and they know they didn't. He didn't watch
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: it because JJ.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Is put in the work. You know, he's putting in
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: the works.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: It just it vikings fans. It's gonna suck. It's gonna
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: suck for a minute, and you know then he'll get
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: better and we'll start to win things and you'll start
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to think, you know, hopefully we're sitting in a spot
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: where Bills fans are right now. Josh Allen did look
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: great the first couple of years.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Dude, I saw a statistic. They're they're very similar. JJ
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: and and Josh Allen's statists. Now they're totally two different quarterbacks, totally,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: but I think completion percentage after their first five games, touchdowns, interceptions,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: they're very close. And you know, once again, I you
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: hate to compare because they're two different quarterbacks, but just no,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I bet you Bills fans were feeling that
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: same aggravation and now we'll get.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Rid of him. Yeah. I just think Vikings fans were jaded.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: We're all football fans are jaded, but we are because
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: we're thinking Christian Ponder. We're thinking crap. We had Teddy
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Bridgewater who looked decent one preseason game before that not
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: so great, and then boom, his knee ceased to exist.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: We're thinking, you know, Kirk Cousins, who is always fine
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: but never great. You know, we're thinking all these quarterbacks
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: that we've been spurned by. And we see JJ McCarthy
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: throw a comedic overthrow to the sideline for Justin Jefferson
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: and a Bears player like catches it. And we see
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: that and it's like, he's I could do better than that,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Like he's terrible. We're just jaded, and myself included. If
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: my wife were right here, she'd be saying, you said
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: he was terrible yesterday. We just need to give him
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: five games is not enough, and we need to write
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: off the idea that he was getting better behind the
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: scenes last year just didn't happen.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Yep, Yep.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: It's fair to say any football fan, it doesn't matter
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: what team you cheer for. Man, we get emotional. We
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: are invested, especially if you are like if you're like
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: us when we got a weekly podcast where we sit
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: here and talk about our team, like you watch those
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: games with with a lot of investment, you know. And
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: so it's like when you watch those overthrows, you're just like,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, right, and you're just you're you're throwing
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: your head back and you're frustrated and you're mad. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: then thirty seconds later you get this big completion over
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the middle to TJ. Hoginson, and you're like, yeah, we're
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Let's go. You know, Like the
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the roller coaster is, it's a cruel cruel sports. The
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: roller coaster for the Vikings this year, though, is very real,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Like it just seems like we're on this like dramatic
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: up and down. Like we beat the Bengals greatly, it
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: was awesome. Yeah, what a great game. And then and
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: then we got dominated a couple of weeks before that
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: by the Falcons on primetime and it was like, seriously,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, what are we doing?
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Like so, so, guys, we've we've done this. I'm sorry
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: to cut you off here. Every topic we have written down,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: we talked for like three words about it, and then
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy for a minute or ten minutes. So my
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: game ball, as you may remember from twenty five minutes ago,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones Evan, he's your game ball.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: My game ball will go to Blake Cashman. He is
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the quiet superman of this team. I really think that
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that was a role that I think we used to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: give to Harrison Smith quite a bit. And it's not
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to say that he's undeserving. I think Harrison Smith is
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: still very deserving. He played his two hundredth game as
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: a Viking yesterday, which it's incredible, and he was joined
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: by Scott Studwell and Carl Eller.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I forget somebody on the sideline.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Or was Carl Eller. I think it was two historic vikings.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I know Studwell was there, and I'm pretty sure it
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: was Carl Eller. Anyways, as some of the only vikings
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: to play two hundred plus games for that franchise, that
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Here we go, Carl, Yeah, Carl Eller
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: and Studwell?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Is that Studwell?
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Studwell.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: They're three people in the history of the world, three
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: of the what ten at the most.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Jim Marshall played two hundred games. I think there was
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a couple other vikings that weren't there that have played
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: two undred games.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: There is tingle Hoff, Jim Marshall two hundred and seventy games,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Tinglehoff two hundred and forty games, Fred Cox the Kicker
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: two hundred ten games. If you're how I'm at your
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: mother fan, you'll remember that one scene where Marshall's dad
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: was yelling the word Cox into the bathroom. Carl Eller
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: at two hundred and nine, Scott Studwell at two to one,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and then Harrison Smith currently at.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Now at two hundred and and will finished this season
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: playing every game, so he'll be in the two oh something.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Well, we got what seven games left Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: But anyways, there we go again talking about one guy
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and then rabbit trailing on another lake. Cashman, I think
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: is the quiet superman of this team. He was injured
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: early this season, missed some time, and the defense struggled.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Now he's back, and this defense feels like it's back,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and the defense feels like it's doing his job. The
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: defense held the Bears to nineteen points. If you old
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: any NFL team under twenty points, you're a pretty good defense.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nineteen points including you know, five field goal attempts. Yeah,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: so like there's four drives there that only got three
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: points when they could have scored more.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: So that's a really good point too, silver lining. And
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: they did that to the Ravens last week too, where
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: they especially in the first half, it was just field
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: goals and that feels like a victory for a defense
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. So Blake Cashman gotta gotta
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: give him credit. He's playing really well. He led the
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: team in tackles. That's the only reason he stood out
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: to me. Admittedly, there wasn't a ton of thought to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: my game ball, but it's hard to give a game
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: ball and a loss to like in a game ball. Yeah,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you can't. I feel like you can't give a game
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: ball to very many of the guys on offense because
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: it just seemed like the offense was a dud all
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: day long.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe some of the linemen, but yeah, Forrest, who's
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: your favorite Viking?
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: And why it's who you want me to give my
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: game ball? Because I guess it kind of makes sense
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: to give a game ball to got it through interceptions.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I was gonna say your favorite Viking,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I would not.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Be because I love JJ even though he's a Viking.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I I gotta go Santos. Sure, yeah, I mean even
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: though DuVernay Man had that explosive set up the finals drive,
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: but uh, four O five, the majority of the points
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: gotta go with Santos.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: What was the not to highlight the only, you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: bad thing he did, But what was the length of
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the miss?
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I wanted to say it was like an upper So.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so it's not like he missed a twenty
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: yard kick and the game winner forty eight yard kick
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: with the pressure of being hey, if you miss this,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: like you're down, it's not going in overtime. You miss
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: this and you're done. You lost, and so yeah, that's
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: that's not easy to do, especially with up until today,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Jake Moody was right there waiting for him to miss
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: one kick, and Moody was on the practice squad.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: That's right, so he can Moody play. Do you know
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: that one game that Cairo Santos was out and he
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: came in clutch for us though.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Being an NFL kicker's cut throat and as great as
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Santos looked, you know, against the Vikings, all it would
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: take would be like two missed field goals next week
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: and yeah, oh no, all of a sudden. Yeah, and
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: that's not to say anything about him specifically, gets you
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: will record, you know, for the Vikings. If he missed
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: three field goals in a day, it's like that guy
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: might get fired tomorrow. Nobody is safe, especially as an
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: NFL kicker. He missed a forty five yard Okay, yeah
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: you can, you can. And it wasn't like he bombed,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: like no, no, But.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit of a caveat there, like, dude,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: it's indoors, sure, yeah, and you're an NFL kicker there,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the weather is not a factor. I think they did
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: have the doors open. I think they did have the
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: doors open, which that that's not going to affect much,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: if anything at all.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I've heard. I've heard that US Bank it can.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt that. I wouldn't doubt that it can.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: But I mean, everything has to be just right. The
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: wind has to be coming from the right direction, and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the doors of course have to be opened. Uh, but
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I get the I get the impression
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that if you're kicking indoors in the NFL and you
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: miss one from fifty or less, yeah, that's gotta be tough.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like, come on, man.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Like, especially if it was wasn't like the holder's fault
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: or the snall.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I think every once in a while you're
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you're excused. Obviously nobody's gonna be afixt. But but to
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: your point, yes, with with no whether contending you should
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: be nailing, especially this year with the k balls being yes,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: that's truer step a little bit.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Whatever they're doing.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Basically it's like buyo b bring.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Your own ball, Like, hey, everybody's playing by the same rule.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: So no, that's true, everyone's playing best same rule. So
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: it's it's no advantage to one team or the other.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: So fun fact, I didn't listen or I didn't watch
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the game with sound on, because I feel like if
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I had heard that, they probably the announcer's probably would
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: have said at some point like, yeah, the doors are open,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of a breeze. I was
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: actually watching the game on my phone in a movie theater.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You were with the rest of my family. You texted me,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: she gave me the idea.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: So it was my wife's birthday yesterday, and you texted
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: me before the game said.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: When I heard the game, when I heard this, as like, Austin,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you are sacrificing.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was her birthday, and she went, I agree.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: She wanted to go.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: To a movie with the kids, and the kids like
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Wicked right now, we actually, our families have plans to
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: see the sequel here coming up.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Next next Sunday.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Actual, yeah, yeah, but which if you're watching the game
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: at the end of.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: The game on my phone, well that'll be the end
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: because I think it's three o'clock showing and with the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: with the previews, I think it won't start till like
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: three twenty three thirty good.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we were getting popcorn, and I had resigned
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: myself to the fact that like, all right, I'm just
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: gonna have to watch the YouTube TV recording of this
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: game later tonight once everybody goes to bed and we're
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: getting popcorn, and my wife's like, you're gonna watch the
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: game on your phone, aren't you. I was like, I
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: hadn't even thought of that.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: She says.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, that's ridiculou this, But I'm pretty
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: sure I was, like I didn't even think about that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't I would be sitting in.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: The back row. Were you distracting other people?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: We were in the second to back row. But the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: our theaters, most of the theater now has like the client, right,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: and with that comes like a solid wall on every row.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: That's true, so you can't even as long as long
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: as you.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Weren't distracting other people around you.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: So I was silent. Obviously I didn't have the sound on.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't jump up and score or you know, yeah,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot to jump up and cheer four
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: for the game yesterday anyways. But I also again silent,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: and I turned the brightness just all the way down,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: and I kind of, you know, hunched it. I probably
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: looked really weird.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you did.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: But I've seen the movie before and it's it's a musical.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I like the movie.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, fine, you know, but I'd rather watch it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I'd rather watch The King Get to the Bears then
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: watch Wicked in the theater again.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: See, I was like after they went, I was like, oh,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: he hasn't watched the game. It so I've been texting
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: you at all.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did feel a little betrayed because you texted
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: me at the end of the game and you're like,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: are you watching? And I'm like, of course I'm watching.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: It's like the only Vikings game that's been broadcast in
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: this region this whole season. And then you're like, yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I've been watching this whole game. And I'm like, if
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: you texted me before, and I did, you weren't going
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to watch the game until tonight. I've been, you know,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: trying to give you the media blackout, like the Ted
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Moseby like exactly.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Five thousand, don't let don't say a word, don't give
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: him an inclining of what what happened in this game.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys, and that's fine, but if I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: would have planned better. I absolutely would have planned to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: watch the game. I would have brought headphones and like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: that's funny.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I watched it.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: But I'm okay watching football games the boy. But yeah,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I have no idea if the doors were open, because
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they said it on the broadcast.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: The doors were open, you could have seen it. They
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: didn't say it, did I just I just observe you're
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: watching it on your tiny little screen. I was watching
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it on my big TV. But anyways, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: All right, well Forrest, you did give your game, Bay,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I did anything else. Bears perspective, what are your thoughts
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: on the Bears playoff chances? I mean the rest of
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: the season. Do you think it'll keep going well like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: it has been? What are your thoughts.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: I have to believe that as of right now, the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Bears somehow find a way, and they should say, somehow
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: find a way they will make the playoffs. They I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: was about to say they'll find a way it was
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the opposite approach. While I don't think
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: they have enough to hold on to the division, I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: think they went enough to get a wild card spot.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Looking at the schedule, we have to play the Packers twice,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: the Lions again. Philly play Pittsburgh next week.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I think they're Evan's pulling up the schedule here.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: I think there's enough enough games that Yeah, I.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Think the Niners might be interesting.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: The Niners would be an interesting game. I I think, honestly,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: they they can get to they can pull out for
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: the next seven Yeah, I think I think they. I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: think they can split with the Packers for sure. The
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Packers don't look as as tough as you know in
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: the years past. Their offense definitely is not up to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: par from the years past.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: And Jordan Love keeps getting hurt and leaving the game.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how nice did he miss of the game?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: He didn't miss much. I don't think I didn't really
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: watch that or pay attention to it hardly at all,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: but like it's not the first time this season that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: he's missed time in the middle of a game.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just have to believe the Bears
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: will continue to get better. Everything, everything indicates that they will, so, so.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I have a follow up question to that, not Bears related,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: not Vikings related. Really, who's the last team standing in
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: the NFC North When it's all said and done the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: playoffs everything, who's the last team standing.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Who's who's still playing? Yeah, whether you're division winner, like,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: who goes deeper in the playoffs, yep.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Who's the last one to keep playing?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Because I think that's a really interesting question with this
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: division question.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: As horrible as their fans are, I mean, currently you can't.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I can't really bet against the Lions too much for
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: what the last three seasons.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: So i'd agree with you. Even though the Lions they're
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're still way within winning the division obviously.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: I think that's who's going to win the divisions. Still,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: they are still a really good team.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: If I were a Bears fan right now, legitimately, I'd
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: be pretty jacked.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I'd be, Oh, don't don't take me.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm being a costously optimistic Bears fan.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Like this week alone, for the Bears club, they were
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: the only NFC North team to win, right, they got
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: a leg up on every other team this week. Absolutely,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: and you still have for the Bears, what three division divisions?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: You should beat the Browns easily.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I would, yeah, I would think. You know, I look
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: at the schedule. I think we win next week. It's
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: at home, against Steelers without Aaron Rodgers. I I can't
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: see us winning at Philly, But then it's at Packers then,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: so maybe a couple of losses in the Browns then
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: we host the Packers. So yeah, I just I honestly,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: it may come down to that that last week versus
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: the lines to see who wins the division. I don't know,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: and it might be very interesting, full of very interesting.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I just know the lines. I mean, yeah, they lost
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: against Philly and Jared Goff probably had his worst game
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: of his career, i'd say, and they still were almost
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: able to at least try to win the game. They
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: still have a lot on offensive defense star power.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: So yep. Yeah, If I have to answer the question,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I'll say right now, the Lions, even though their fans
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: are the worst humans on the face of the entire planet.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: It's got to be Philadelphia Eagles.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: They might be tied, but the Lions are the worst.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: And I realize there are terrorists out there in this
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: world and Lions fans are the worst.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: So did you give me a.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Definitive answer, I'm going I'm going with even though I'm
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: a Bears fan, I'm going with Detroit, just knowing their
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: roster and their experience in the playoffs. I think the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Lions are the last NFC North to.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: The Lions are starting I think one of you said
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: it earlier in reference to something I've said, you know
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: all offseason, Evan, I think you said this, the Lions
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: are starting to show a little bit more how much
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: they're missing that coaching.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Experience, and I think there.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Is I would only see, honestly, I'd just say offense.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: The defense, they haven't missed a beat. I don't think
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: there you see this year is just as good as Aaron.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Glynn and they've gotten back Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah, Michigan fact.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think they're missing the DC.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: But Ben Johnson was a great OC. Obviously, he's turned
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: the Bears around. I think that's what they're missing. Their
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: head coach Campbell had to take over the play calling
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: after the Vikings loss. I mean so, and.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to undersell defensive coordinators or defensive players
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: for that matter, but I do think, uh, there's a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: pretty big difference between playing defense and coaching defense in
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the NFL versus playing defense and or coaching offense in
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the NFL. I think offense is a much more complicated world.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: And that's coming from a guy that made it to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: eighth grade football and quit.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Although I agree with you, but I will say every
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: time I watch one of those YouTube videos of like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: breakdowns of people that actually know what they're talking about,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: defense is it's a different language.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm not discounting all that, but defense is reactionary, right,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Like defense is Okay, we got to take what they
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: give us here and we've got to respond to that.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: And offense is more of the chess match of like, Okay,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: this is what they're going to show us, So this
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: is what we're going to show them, but we're going
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: to show them this so that they do this and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: then we're going to do this instead. Right, there's so
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: much there's so many more layers to offense. I feel like,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: and well, with all that.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, but I will rebuttal and I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: want to hear what you're about to say, so I'll
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: be quick. I'll agree with you on that, But I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: think defense where they get more mental, more showing you
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: playing the chess pieces of the defense that all happens
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: before the snap. Oh, for sure, there's people moving around
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: and they're showing a certain type and then what do
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: they say about Flores, Like all those show heavy blitz
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: and then like one person blitzes back out. Yeah yeah,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: but anyways, keep going, what were you about to say?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: All of that to say? I think the sneaky team
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: in the NFC North right now, unfortunately is the Packers.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: And I hate saying it, and it tastes really bad
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: coming out of my mouth, but I think that tie
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: that they had with the Cowboys early on in the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: season really kind of gives them a leg up because
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: they can afford to drop a game somewhere and they've
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: kind of already done that, and they have already done
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: that and that's why they're in second place in the division.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: But again, I think the margin is just so thin now, and.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's it's a because Green Bay
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: always seems to do it. But I just I just
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they're good, especially their defense, but I
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: just don't think their offenses is up to snuff this year.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I think Green Bay has the most divisional games left.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I think with five divisional games. They play the Vikings twice,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: the Bears twice, and the Lions once more. Yeah, so
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough road for the Packers, but
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And if Josh Jacobs is hurt long term,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: that'll affect them. If Jordan Love is hurt beyond you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: know whatever he sustained the other day, and that'll affect
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: them too. But on the defensive side of the ball,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you've got one of the scariest edge rushers.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: And I mean, like I said, their defense is solids
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: kept them in several games. I'm just not buying the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: offense this year.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: And I think my Parsons will be coming for JJ McCarthy,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: oh this coming week and in week eighteen when the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Vikings play them like he will, he will make it
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: his mission to get to the backfield and take down
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: And as a rebuttal of that, I will say recently,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: in recent Vikings losses, it's been a handful of weeks
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: since we've said anything negative about the Vikings offensive line.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: You get, Darri saw back, you get, I mean, yeah,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: it was just a week ago. I guess we said
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: a lot about the false starts, but that's obviously fixable.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: They only had one this past week, and KOs in
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: his press conference kind of made that sound like more
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: of a center issue and the cadence issue because he said, yeah,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I think the tackles went on the right cadence and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: nobody else did. Anyways, I think the Vikings offensive line
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: has knocked out a lot of things and they're only
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: getting healthier. So bring on Micah Parsons not saying it's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be easy, bring on Aiden Hutchinson not saying it's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: going to be easy. But the Vikings have Pro bowlers
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: along the line, and there a lot of money on
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: that offensive line and they're getting healthy.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Well, let's look ahead to Vikings and Bears next week.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Who to the Bears play next week?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, without Aaron Rodgers prediction, Well, I think it's it's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: at Chicago. I think I think we find a way
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: to win that. I think it's actually maybe one that
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: my heart rate doesn't go up as much. I mean,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: I think we went at least by by a full
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: touchdown on this one.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Interesting can you see Evan usually on.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: What Mason Rudolph the back? That is true?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I keep forgetting about that. Usually they show the spread.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: It's a three point spread in favor of Chicago. Currently.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: I just I like I like the matchup personally, Steelers
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: are are reeling, I think so.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if Rodgers really is out, you can
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: almost guarantee like Rogers is good for at least seven
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: points on his own like as far as the.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what Jersey. Rogers always placed.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Cargo tough in the Vikings too. Yeah, yep, he beat
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the Vikings this year. So you're did you say, are
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: you predicting?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking Bears win. I'm giving. I'm giving the full
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: touchdown on this, all right?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Do you have a score thoughts on that or are
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: you given?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: I'm given twenty, I'll give twenty eight to twenty okay, twenty, okay,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Ev the Vikings travel to Green Bay and.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: On my birthday, yeah, my birthdays on Sunday.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: I think I have a coworker, maybe a couple people
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: who work in my organization. They're going to be heading
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: up to that game, so that'll be fun for them.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: It is the it's not Thanksgiving, No, it's not Thanksgiving
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: days the Sunday before the Sunday before currently or at
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: least as of like four o'clock this afternoon earlier whatever
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: odds book ESPN uses, they showed Green Bay favored by
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: six and a half points and over under forty one
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and a half, which I mean that's twenty one to twenty,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: you know, like that's not a high scoring game.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: I'm shocked actually by that.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: And I think that's more to say about Green Bay's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: overall quality of a team, which is probably slightly better
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: than the Vikings right now, as well as the Vikings defense,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: which the pieces are there, and who knows, maybe justin Jefferson,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: who is frustrated and it's kind of a testament to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: him that we haven't set his name very much today.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's probably pretty accurate. Evan, what
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: are the Vikings keys to victory if they are going
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: to beat the Packers.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: If they're going to beat the Packers, they're going to
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: have to establish the run game early, like Kevin O'Connell
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: did in this last game against the Bears, and I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: thought that was reasonably successful, and that set JJ McCarthy
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: up for some throwing opportunities that he just didn't connect on,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: and some of them were his fault, some of them
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: were his receiver's fault. We've already talked about that, so
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: we don't need to rehash that. But I think it
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: has to be run game is a priority. You have
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: two really really good backs, and I don't even know
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that it's this like I think in a game like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: this with the Packers. And I'm probably going to be
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: wrong in saying this, and Kevin O'Connell's not going to
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: do this because he doesn't listen to our podcast, but
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I think what I know surprise, right. I don't think
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, Aaron Jones gets the start and gets
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: the first drive and then we trade drives for the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: rest of I don't think. I don't think you can
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: operate that way in a game like this, especially in
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: a kind of a must win situation for the Vikings
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: if you want to keep your hopes alive.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Especially for Aaron Jones against his former team, too.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Right, and you can't let those emotions play into that.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: If there's a situation where Jordan Mason's the better back,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: put him in, I don't care if it's the middle
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: of a drive or not. Like, put him in and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: let him do his thing. And I think both of
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: those backs have better strengths, right, Like I think Jordan
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Mason is that kind of bully his way forward downhill
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: runner and Aaron Jones is more of the scat back,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and Aaron Jones catches more passes out of the backfield
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: as a receiver, so they both have their skill set.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: But I think you have to play to those skills, right,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: So I think that's one and then I think the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: other is just that this defense has to lock down
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: whatever the Packers are going to put out there, Like,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: is Jordan Love injured? I don't know. Are we gonna
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: see who even is their backup quarterback?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: I don't even know Willis isn't it? Is it a
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: guy who a lot of people are saying, Hey, he
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: went to and Oh last year and he's like probably
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: more athletic, and I think he might be a better
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Mean he definitely gives you a different dynamic.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah sure, but yeah.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Anyways, so whoever the quarterback is, you've got to lock
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: them down and then you got to take advantage. I
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: feel like the rest of this Packers team has been
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: kind of banged up, especially on the offensive side. I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: had Christian Watson in fantasy football. He's been kind of
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: banged up.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't even start it. You didn't start him.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't start him against you this week, and he
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: had twenty points on my bench, which I was annoyed by.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I still beat you, but that's okay, thanks, but.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Give him another shot. Him alert over there, you deserve it. Here.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Let me get that BB gun again.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: But Josh Jacobs, right, we don't know what's gonna happen
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: with Josh Jacobs. That's kind of an interesting situation and
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: we're going to continue to monitor that this week. I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: think his Vikings fans, I think they got some less
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: than exciting news on him, but I think they're also
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: getting a second opinion from what I heard. Yeah, so
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: it could be a situation where he's either you know,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: not playing at all or getting limited snaps.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: So I think the way they're talking, I think they're
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: trying to avoid the season ending thing. Yes, so I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: would say this week is a long shot for him.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: And I don't know anything about his injury, but when
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: they're saying like it might not be season ending injury,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I would put him as, you know, a long shot
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: to play against the Vikings this week.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: But I think they're gonna hear.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: On the Yeah, at least the game immediately after his
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: injury happened. Maybe the next time they play the Bears,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: he'll be up, but I don't.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, wait to wait till they play the Bears.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: If the Vikings can capitalize on those injuries, though, could
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: be could be a Vikings victory.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: All right, So do you have a game prediction? I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: know everything you said was a key to the Vikings winning,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't necessarily mean that I think you're gonna win?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Or do you want me to give my key to victory?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: And then we can both say no, just I'll give
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: my score prediction and force I want you to give
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: an opinion on the Well you go for it though.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: All right, So I turned thirty five on Sunday. Geez,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: I'm an old man.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: Here, speak for yourself, forrest.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Are you willing to share it?
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm I'm you're a little north of forty.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Oh if I was gonna give you a little north
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: of thirty five, you look fantastic for the year.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Well, anyways, I'm gonna be thirty five. That's true, that's accurated.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: You can verify that I was doing that thirty five.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: We're still hanging out.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: Then.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I don't like doing this.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: You're not You're not getting older. You don't like doing that.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: I don't like that either.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Oh you're getting older.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: My back hurts, right, Yeah, but.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: I can't wait until the day I can just turn
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: the hearing it.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be nice.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry I didn't hear you.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: It's dead.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: I gotta charge it better.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: What and you pointed out the over under at forty
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: one and a half. I don't think this game is
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: as close as twenty one twenty. I just it's not.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's a thirty five to seven Packers win. Wow.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I thought you were a whoa fan?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: I thought you Wow, I thought you were a real fan.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, All right, wait a minute, Wait a minute.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: I haven't given my key to victory. Yeah, my keys
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: to victory.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Do you see his corp prediction? It's not much better
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: than mine?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Jeez.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: And did the Bears put you both in like a
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: downward spiral or what?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'll tell you who put us in a downward spiral?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: And he used to wear that m on his chest
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: when won.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: A national championship.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how many passes he completely lost?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: He only lost one game as a starter at Michigan.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how many passes did he complete as in Michigan? Anyways,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: now we're not gonna do this again for every segment
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: of the show where we derail and just talking about
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: J McCarthy.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: But you're gonna talk about J. J McCarthy.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I do have I've got one written down
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: key to victory. But I've got a couple here. I
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: said earlier. I watched the press conference, the Monday press conference. Uh,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Chaos gave today. I think JJ McCarthy even gave one too,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't want to lose, you know,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: my YouTube account, so I didn't didn't watch that one.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: But Chaos was asked a lot of questions, mostly about
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, some about you know, the rest of the team,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: but one pretty good one about turnovers and how the Vikings.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: I think they are bottom of the league right now.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: They might not be thirty second, but they're they're very
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: bottom of the league in turnovers, you know, the turnover differential,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: and historically in their team's history, this is one of
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: the worst turnover seasons. They're differentials of Vikings history. And
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: somebody asked like, what do you what do you do
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: about that? So, yeah, Kevin O'Connell basically was saying like, well,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: we had a few good opportunities for turnovers. You know,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: we'd have one where a ball would be tipped and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: it would hit the grass and there'd be a viking
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: within a step or two of that ball could have
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: been an interception. So he basically said, I think the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: it'll regress to the mean and the Vikings will, you know,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: go back to to the middle of you know, where
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: they should be and get a lot more turnovers here
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: soon because you know, statistically they should. But that's one
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: of minus. They need to win the turnover battle, not
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: just tie it. They need to win it. And that
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: goes true for every game for the rest of the season.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Just get freaking turnovers. We talked about the Bengals game
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: earlier in this episode where they dominated the Bengals. Well, well,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: what do you know, they had what four turnovers? Five
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: turnovers in that game for and they might not have
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: had one really since, you know, I think they've had
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: a couple since, but not many. So get back to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: winning that turnover game. JJ can't throw two interceptions. And
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: there's my second point is JJ needs to improve and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: develop drastically if they really want to win a lot
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: of a lot more games this year. Yeah, he's gonna develop,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: he's gonna keep going. We've seen flashes of he can
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: make the throws and he can lead, and he's where
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: else would you rather be? And the joke is pretty
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: much anywhere else right now? So he's there, But we
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: need to see if the Vikings want to win more
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: games this year, his development needs to go from like
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: five percent every week to thirty percent every week. Like,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: he needs to develop a lot faster. So if the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Vikings are gonna beat the Packers, they need to get
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: more turnovers and JJ needs to become a lot better,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: a lot faster than he should be, or then he
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: will be, which leads me to my score prediction.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's hear that. So I just got a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: lot of flak for mine. I want to know what yours.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: You're a true fan man? Thirty five to seven? Wow?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are going to score a lot
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: more than seven points.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, a lot more.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: I have nine points is a lot more than seven points. No,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: I think the Packers will win. It's gonna be tough.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: So you think the Vikings will score three field goals
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: instead of one touchdown.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Will record, will get my game ball next week. I'm
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: calling my shot right now, all right, yeah, thirty to nine.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: The season's playoffs are done. Now all we need. Our
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: silver lining for this season will be Hey, JJ, actually
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: wasn't the reason we lost this week. That's gonna be
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: the best thing we can say about, you know, any
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: game for the rest of the season. So purple punishments wise,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: we both you coin, our wives, our kids, everybody are
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: the Vikings fans, and we all said yeap a Vikings
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: win for this week in the preseason.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: I may have coerced my kids.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: So what's the record right now before I give.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Mysa, it's not this is maybe our worst season given
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: you and me percentage, Well per totally. Austin has picked
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: three games correctly, and I've picked five games correctly.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: And the coin, the coin has been terrible.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: The coin has picked one game one game credit. That's crazy.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: Never trust the coin.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: The coin was the coin did not take a drink
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: of beer this year.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's the coin was extremely drunk last year.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Let's just say this. Evan made sure that happened. I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: think that was episode fifty three the coin did pretty
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: well last year.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Sixty correct it was. It was correct through week seven,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: which is crazy. It was crazy which it predicted the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: first five wins and then the first loss to the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Lions after the bye. It's pretty good for.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Anyways as a Bears fan, but a real ball knower,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that sounds good.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Ball Moer, you know ball man, you know you know
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: your stuff. Football Vikings Packers this week in Lambeau. The
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Packers are favored by six and a half. What are
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: your score predictions.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Dude, I'm I'm I'm a little disappointed both of you.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: You're like, it's a downward spiral on this thing. I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: was not predicting such a discrepancy on the score from
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: either of you. I like beard one of you, and
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: at least while the Packers may win, I think you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: make it a little closer.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put some money on the package.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: You are you are, You're going to your money on
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: the pair, basically both giving up the white flag. You're
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: you're waving the white flags.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I have a problem. I have a problem with it.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have a problem fundamentally with
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: throwing in the white towel saying, whatever, what you know
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: the Vikings are going to win or the Vikings are.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Going to.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: No, if you're gonna put money on the opposing team,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: I have a problem with that.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know the Packers are going to win.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: I hope you lose some money, and I will. I
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: will apologize to your wife.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know. She never listens.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I hope you lose some money. If you put some
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: money on the Packers. I truly hope that you lose money.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen. I hope I do too.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: But if you lose some money, I'm going to make
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: fun of you next week. Bring it on, I'm gonna
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: make fun.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Of you next week. I will be truthfully.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: I want to know. I want to know the dollar
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: amount before I tell you what my score prediction is.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: You both said the Packers are going to win.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Next week, right, That's correct?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm actually rooting for the Vikings, and of course,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: I mean it's self serving for the Bears. Plus I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: just hate the Packers that much.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody and the Lions fans are the worst.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: But we'll disagree.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: But either way, I actually think Minnesota takes a step
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: forward on this one. They showed, they showed that they
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: can be a tough team like the Lions. I mean
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: it's like you guys have short term memory. We're like, well,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: I guess we're two and a half three weeks away,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: but you guys beat the Lions. I mean, we're all
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: saying the Lions are a good team. So why are
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: we thinking the Packers are going to just destroy you guys?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I can.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: The Vikings just lost to the Bears, so.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: That's the first place Bears.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: And to be fair, and to your point, we did
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: say a little bit ago and I said specifically the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Packers are struggling and injuries are starting.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: I'll admit that for sure. And I might say this
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: all self surrem purposes because I'm rooting for the Vikings.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: I think I think the Vikings turn this thing around.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: Their defense continues like this, they just come alive though,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: line pre make strides. I think Vikings Vikings win twenty
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: four to twenty three.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Wo wow, so by less points than they lost to
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: the Bears. Yeah, they lost to the Bears by two points.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to beat the Packers by one.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: And I think twenty four to twenty three.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: When's the last time the Vikings won at Lambeau? Can
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: you look that up really quick?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: Still?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: But I feel like recently the Vikings feel like it
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: has been fairly recently, but I would like to know
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: When's when has the Viking? When have the Vikings won?
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: I think I found a website that might tell us
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: here twenty twenty four the oh this is a Packers
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: site here. So the Vikings swept the Packers in twenty twenty.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they did win last year? Yeah at Lambeau? Okay,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty five in December.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: So it was last September. September twenty ninth, twenty twenty
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: four was the last time the Vikings won in Green Bay.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: It was coincidentally the last time they played them in
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Green Bay. Other than that they lost the appearance previously.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: In October of twenty twenty three, the Viking the Green
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers beat them in Lambeau, but then no, they won.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, yeah, the Vikings once, so they Packers site. Yeah, man,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: it says ll the Packers lost, so I think the
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Vikings and then they won again in twenty twenty two.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: The Vikings Street Head one in Lambo.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: All sane is I think the Vikings get together.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: This I still don't like it.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: So twenty nineteen is the last time.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: There's nothing too late, twenty nineteen in Lambo.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen is the last time the Vikings lost at Lambeau.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I think the streak ends.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, wait, nope, I'm wrong. Twenty twenty two
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Green Bay one.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, that was the That was the Kirk Cousins game.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: That was That was when he tore his achilles in Lambeau.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: No, that was later in the season. That was the
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: last game in the Viking season when they were still
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: I think that was the Jaron Hall game. So the
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Vikings won the Achilles game.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: But the Achilles game was at Green Bay. The Achilles
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: game was at Green Bay.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and proved me right. Okay, yep, so that was
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: I hate that. This is a package. Why is this
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: focusing on the package?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just going off the information you're
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: giving me here.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be more Vikings friendly. I'm gonna go
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty three. Vikings are gonna pull this.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: If the Vikings pull it out, obviously will be jazzed.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: We'll be like, if they pulled out, I want a
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: special mention.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: On this y, We'll give you your roses here. You
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: will be my rose if they If the Vikings, oh
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, but I do know for a fact Kirk
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: Cousins tores Achilles in Green Bay and they yeah they
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: won that.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I thought they lost that game, but maybe you're right.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. My memory is not great with that
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. So anyways, I feel like the Vikings
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: still despite all of this stat searching and stuff, the
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Vikings have played fairly well in Lambeau as of late,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: so that might be a little bit of an edge
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings, but I don't think it's much, because
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: the Vikings haven't proven to have much of an edge
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: at all this season. Yeah, so, not to be a
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Debbie downer, but that's where I'm at.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vikings beat the Packers twenty four to ten
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: in Green Bay on the day that we clarify October
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: must have been the twenty ninth.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, so we're both predicting a Vikings loss.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: And of the show Vikings loss giant Vikings loss not
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: even the most devastating loss of the season score wise
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: so far. That was against the Chargers. But yeah, we
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: both think Vikings aren't gonna pull it out front of
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: the show Force notorious Bears fan is rooting for and
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: predicting a Vikings win, and who knows, maybe this is
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: the game. JJ McCarthy has three point fifty plus four
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: touchdowns breakout, we'd be jacked.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: The Packers have looked garbage. They look garbage of course
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: against the Eagles, but they barely beat the Giants, and
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: I know the Bears barely beat the Giants. Still, the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Packers have not looked great.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bears also had Jackson Dart on the other
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: side for most of the game.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: That's true where the Packers played Jameis Winston. So yeah,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: All right, before we close this out then, I.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Just need we need to close this out, So go ahead.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: I do have one thing I just saw on Twitter,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: case Keenum, former Vikings quarterback, former almost every other team quarterback,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: current Bears quarterback. Third is he qb his third, Yeah,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: which is fine.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: Badgin is.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Obviously twenty seventeen for the Vikings. He had that magical
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: year that culminated ultimately on a loss of a score
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: like loss that we just predicted against the Packers here
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: to the Eagles in the NFC Championship game. But before that,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: to get to that game, Case Keenum through the Minneapolis
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: Miracle to Stefan Diggs, Diggs sideline touchdown, end zone whatever
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: Joe Bucks said. I just saw tweet from Case Keenum
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: from this was tonight, November seventeenth, and it's a picture
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: of Case and I assume his wife and young son
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: who looks to be you know, less than twenty seventeen.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: And his tweet says, awesome day back in Minnesota. Since
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: it was my son's first time at the Viking Stadium,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: of course we had to show him videos of his
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: dad throwing the miracle dot dot dot. His reaction quote,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: can we watch videos of mom playing pickleball? Now? This
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: kid watches the greatest moment in Viking's history, and it's like,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: all right, I don't even watch football anymore. Show me
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: mom playing pick a ball. That's hilarious, but it is
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: a good picture.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: Give him a couple of years, a couple.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Of yearah, and yet here we are. That play is
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: part of our intro video and probably will forever be
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: because it's the greatest play in our franchise history, and
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: this kid don't care.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we should have forced I love you. But if
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: we had had the opportunity of Case Keenum on the
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: show today, I think we would have taken that. I
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: think you would have. We still would have had you.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: I say that as if.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: You at Oh, maybe I come on the show and
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: we will offer you a shot of Alert and we'll
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: send you a bottle. If you're not live in Evan's
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: basement here, I think.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: I think, I think Chicago football player. He probably gets
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: lots offers for maybe.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I will say this, I still hope to this day
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: and for the rest of his life, Case Keenum in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Minnesota will never have to pay for another drink ever.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: He gave Vikings fans our our favorite moment. That's the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: highlight of I think I apply to Stefan Diggs for
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: the miracles to an extent. I'd buy him a drink,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: A drink one.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: Selfish you selfish half the tandem.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Right there, And it's such a double standard. Diggs left
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: Minnesota a lot angrier than Case Kingdom did. All right,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: did we hit all the marks for Forrest? We did.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on this show.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate it.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: Thank you for keeping the invite even though the Bears
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: did beat the Vikings. I appreciate it. I hang, I
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: love hanging out with you guys.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're always a delight to have on the show.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: You're one of our closest friends. And yes you're a
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: Bears fan. But sports or sports are supposed to be fun.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: My daughter said she got some grief from a classmate
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: today at school because they know, you know, they're a
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Bears fan and they know she's a Vikings fan. And
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I told her, Hey, you know what when your team losing.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: So I told my daughter. I told my daughter yesterday,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: do not do not text on this because that would
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: be an unkind thing to do. But plus, and I said, plus,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: uncle Austin does not know the score of the Vikings
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: Bears game before I knew that you were actually watching
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: the Game's hilarious.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: But it was a good chance to tell my child, like, hey,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: we sports are fun, and you know what we get
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: to be We get to have fun with it and
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: we don't just shove it in people's faces when our
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: team wins. And if people do it to us, you
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: know what, they didn't win, like the person yelling at
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: us saying they weren't on the field. So absolutely, and
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: I told I brought you up. I was like, hey,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: one of my closest friends, Uncle Forrest, and if we
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: do not like the same teams, and if we were
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: mean to each other about it, we wouldn't be good
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: friends anymore. So thank you for coming on. I really
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: appreciate it, Evan. Any any last words before we start
• 1:38:40
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• 1:38:41
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• 1:39:26
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• 1:39:29
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