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Sharri | 4 August · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News This is.
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Speaker 2: Sharry Good Evening coming up tonight, Australia's national shame as
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Speaker 2: the Harbor Bridge turns into a platform for hate and
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Speaker 2: terror chants. If these protesters cared about humanity, then why
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Speaker 2: aren't they talking about the starving hostages that in a
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Speaker 2: moment or so, a Jewish ABC employee quits for anti
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Speaker 2: Israel bias. That exclusive interview coming up an actress Sidney
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Speaker 2: Sweeney might be under fire, but she now has the
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Speaker 2: backing of the most influential man in the world. Will
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Speaker 2: show you what Trump has to say. A bit later,
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Speaker 2: plus MICHAELA. Cash will rip in after a new report
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Speaker 2: revealed the cost of net zero is far more expensive
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Speaker 2: than initially thought. But first tonight to the harbor Bridge
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Speaker 2: protest and the war crime, the actual war crime of
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Speaker 2: the slowly dying hostages. A cruel sight to the world
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Speaker 2: turns away from when it's unfolding right before our eyes. Now,
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Speaker 2: we witnessed a national disgrace on the weekend as our
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Speaker 2: iconic Harbor Bridge was defiled and abused for a divisive
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Speaker 2: protest where flags of terror leaders were flown and death
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Speaker 2: chance rang out. Here you can see Julian Assange, Mary
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Speaker 2: Costakidas and Marine Ferruki standing in the front row with
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Speaker 2: a photo of a run supreme leader. I A totally
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Speaker 2: come in a behind them, And as you know, here's
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Speaker 2: a dictator who executes gaze imprisons women who refuse to
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Speaker 2: wear the veil, and funds terrorism. Al Qaeda flags were
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Speaker 2: also spotted like this one and this terror flag as well.
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Speaker 2: And here were more terrorist flags. And this is the
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Speaker 2: Hamas symbol an inverted red triangle. And as you just heard,
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Speaker 2: there many of the chants that rang out on the
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Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge cord for the destruction of Israel and death
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Speaker 2: to Jews. One protester even held up a poster with
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Speaker 2: the Nazi swastika in a star of David the swastika.
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Speaker 2: Yet the Sydney Morning Herald Today dared to claim this
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Speaker 2: protest was not about Jews. Alexandra Smith wrote that the
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Speaker 2: rally was a stand for humanity and that no one
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Speaker 2: should suggest that the city had turned its back on
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Speaker 2: our Jewish community. What utter nonsense. Imagine having the hide
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Speaker 2: to tell an abused woman, for example, what is or
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Speaker 2: isn't domestic violence. The City Morning Herald doesn't get to
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Speaker 2: decide what's anti Semitic with swastikas, pictures of terror leaders
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Speaker 2: and chance to kill the Israeli Defense Force. The defense
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Speaker 2: Force that's made up of young, brave, strong Jews, including
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Speaker 2: by the way, Australians, who were trying to ensure the
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Speaker 2: survival of the Jewish state. Yes, that is all anti Semitism,
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Speaker 2: and the Harbourbridge Protest organizes with the same group behind
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Speaker 2: the hateful rally on the steps of the Opera House
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Speaker 2: on October nine. Well, perhaps the correction is in order.
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Speaker 2: From the herald, as former Fairfax journalist Julie Sago wrote,
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Speaker 2: death to the IDF and from the River to the
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Speaker 2: Sea will enjoy purity. By association with some of the
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Speaker 2: defining harbor Bridge marches in recent history, including the Walk
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Speaker 2: for Reconciliation with Indigenous Australia in two thousand and she
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Speaker 2: asks what next the inaugural Yaya Sinhwa October seven Memorial
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Speaker 2: March on the Kokoda Trail. She says, the marches in
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Speaker 2: Sydney will almost certainly not care for a two state
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Speaker 2: solution and the end of her mus the Jihadi enemy
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Speaker 2: of civilization, only for the end of israel An outcome
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Speaker 2: they describe as peace and humanity. Yet again, the Herald
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Speaker 2: is on the wrong side of history. Thankfully it rained
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Speaker 2: down on this offensive rally and there were more umbrellas
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Speaker 2: than flags. Now New Southwest Premier Chris Mins had sensibly
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Speaker 2: outlawed this protest on the Harbor Bridge in the interest
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Speaker 2: of public safety and no doubt social cohesion, but outrageously
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court Judge Belinda Rigg overturned his ruling. Apparently she
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Speaker 2: has no problem with allowing our national icon to become
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Speaker 2: a platform for hate and in international embarrassment. And on
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Speaker 2: Sunday the bridge was a site of shame. It's unfathomable
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Speaker 2: how this was allowed to go ahead. As Julian Lisa said,
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Speaker 2: the Harbor Bridge is a symbol of unity for our
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Speaker 2: nation and it shouldn't be turned into a stage for
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Speaker 2: protests that seek to divide us.
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Speaker 3: The Sydney Harbor Bridge is a symbol of the unity
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Speaker 3: of the city.
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Speaker 4: It should not be used for divisive protests of this
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Speaker 4: sort that disrupt our city.
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Speaker 2: Now, the protest was perpetuated by a false narrative that
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Speaker 2: Israel is to blame for the suffering in Gaza, and
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Speaker 2: the facts are ignored. There are clearly truckloads of aid
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Speaker 2: delivered by Israel that hasn't been distributed. Now, an estimated
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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people turned out, but the size of
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Speaker 2: the crowd does not make them right. And if we
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Speaker 2: look back in history, the Nuremberg rallies in Nazi Germany
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Speaker 2: were attended by some seven hundred thousand people, and we
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Speaker 2: now look back on that with disgust and shame. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm not calling the protesters yesterday Nazis, but the size
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Speaker 2: of a crowd alone is never enough to justify something
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Speaker 2: we believe is wrong. And if these protesters were serious
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Speaker 2: about caring for Palestinian suffering, they would be protesting. Her
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Speaker 2: mus hermus is the only reason this war began, and
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Speaker 2: it's the only reason it continues. Her mask refuses to
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Speaker 2: accept ceasefire proposals to end the war. Her Musk refuses
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Speaker 2: to return fifty hostages, which would end the war, and
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Speaker 2: her Musk refuses to distribute that tons of aid Israel
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Speaker 2: has delivered to Gaza. The trucks are sitting there, idle food,
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Speaker 2: going to waste.
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Speaker 5: Hundreds upon hundreds of palettes of aid just rotting in
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Speaker 5: the sun, instead of being delivered to the people who
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Speaker 5: needed here are boxes and boxes of baby food that
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Speaker 5: Israel has led into Gaza and the un hasn't picked up.
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Speaker 5: You can see the Unitsefalogos on them. You can see
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Speaker 5: bottles of baby food.
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Speaker 2: Pour her muss is solely responsible for Palestinian suffering, but
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Speaker 2: the protesters clearly aren't motivated by an end to Palestinian
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Speaker 2: suffering because they're not protesting her Musk or calling on
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Speaker 2: her master and the war, and many were calling for
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Speaker 2: the destruction of Israel. This was a protest of hate,
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Speaker 2: not a protest of peace. Now we all want the
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Speaker 2: war to be over, we never wanted it in the
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Speaker 2: first place, but that will never happen until the hostages
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Speaker 2: are free. Israeli ambassador to Australia and mere Maimon made
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Speaker 2: this quite clear last night and at an event for
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Speaker 2: the Hebrew University in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Lately, I'm asked quite often by senor government official why
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Speaker 3: Israeli is still fighting, and my respond that is, we
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Speaker 3: have fifty good reason why we are still fighting. We
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Speaker 3: still have fifty hostages held by the barbaric organization to
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Speaker 3: organization Hamas, and there is one thing that they failed
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Speaker 3: to understand. Theaught us that we attribute to life in Israel,
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Speaker 3: to every single life. We will continue to fight until
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Speaker 3: we'll bring the last of our hostages back home.
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Speaker 2: And it's a point never again is now head The
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Speaker 2: pastor Mark Leech also made yesterday on Sky News.
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Speaker 6: How do we save innocent people in Gaza? Open the
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Speaker 6: border to Egypt, establish a refugee camp, let the women
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Speaker 6: and children out to flee the conflict zone. And Kamas
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Speaker 6: started this war. Harmas can finish this war by releasing
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Speaker 6: the hostages and surrendering.
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Speaker 2: And the hostages. The images we're seeing are the true
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Speaker 2: picture of cruelty, clearly reminiscent of the Holocaust, and yet
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Speaker 2: the world looks away. Avatau David is just twenty four
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Speaker 2: years old. He was kidnapped from Israel on October seven.
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Speaker 2: He'd been at the Nova Music Festival when he was
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Speaker 2: dragged by terr arrists at gunpoint. That was six hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixty one days ago, and now look at him
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Speaker 2: and a warning. The footage is very distressing, but the
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Speaker 2: family of a Vital David have requested that it be
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Speaker 2: shown around the world.
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Speaker 1: Call ve, call m Lashoni, let you go.
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Speaker 2: It's devastating. His family described him as a living skeleton.
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Speaker 2: He is visibly starved, he's emaciated, he is dying and
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Speaker 2: digging his own grave. This is exactly what happened in
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Speaker 2: the Holocaust. And by the way, his brother will be
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Speaker 2: on My show tomorrow night Tuesday night for an exclusive interview,
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Speaker 2: so don't miss that tomorrow night and just tonight, the
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Speaker 2: Islamic g had have released another horrific hostage video of
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Speaker 2: twenty two year old Rum Baslovski and his family have
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Speaker 2: also given permission for this following footage, again distressing to
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Speaker 2: be shown.
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Speaker 1: People your world clue.
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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettaya, who was right to compare
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Speaker 2: Hermas to Nazis after seeing this footage, and yet those
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Speaker 2: protesters on the Harbor Bridge most likely didn't spare a
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Speaker 2: thought for the hostages, and the media don't seem to
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Speaker 2: care about them either. The New York Times published a
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Speaker 2: false picture of starvation on their front page that they
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Speaker 2: had to issue a clarification for, but where was their
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Speaker 2: front page of hostage Avatal David. Thankfully the New York Post,
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Speaker 2: owned by the company I work for, News Corp, did
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Speaker 2: publish this powerful front page, and our world without news
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Speaker 2: Corp would truly be lost. The continuing war crimes of
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Speaker 2: the hostages is taking place before our very eyes, but
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Speaker 2: no one seems to care. And in fact, the Albaneze
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Speaker 2: government throws another twenty million dollars in eight for her
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Speaker 2: Mask controlled Gaza. I mean, do they even know where
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Speaker 2: the tens and tens of millions of dollars already given
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Speaker 2: our taxpayer funds? Do they even know how they've been spent?
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Speaker 2: And there have been war crimes in the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: but not by Israel. The war crimes are by the
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Speaker 2: Palestinian terrorists towards israelis on and since October seven, and
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Speaker 2: yet they are being rewarded for their war crimes, for
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Speaker 2: their massacres. The UK, Canada, France and others are preparing
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Speaker 2: to recognize a Palestinian state at the United Nations General
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Speaker 2: Assembly in September. It's such an absurd notion, the move
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Speaker 2: to recognize a state where a terror group remains in control,
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Speaker 2: where it's deliberately starving hostages and causing Palestinian suffering. I mean,
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Speaker 2: our international leaders should be finding a way to remove Hermas,
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Speaker 2: disarm all the terror groups and bring home the hostages. Instead,
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Speaker 2: these weak international leaders are being manipulated, manipulated by Hermas,
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Speaker 2: a terror group, and Hermus knows it. Harmas is now
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Speaker 2: proudly boasting that Palestinian recognition. Recognition is the fruits of
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Speaker 2: their terrorism. A senior Hamas figure Ghazi Hammad told Al
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Speaker 2: Jazeera the initiative by several countries to recognize a Palestinian
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Speaker 2: state is one of the fruits of October seven now.
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Speaker 2: Alex Ripchin last night at the Hebrew University event spoke
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Speaker 2: about how a two state solution may be morally correct,
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Speaker 2: but he said it's practically impossible, and he tackled the
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Speaker 2: question of why attempts to solve the Israeli Palestinian conflict
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Speaker 2: have failed and why Israeli withdrawal from Gaza a decade
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Speaker 2: ago didn't lead to peace but instead resulted in October seven.
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Speaker 7: It is because this is not a border dispute, It
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Speaker 7: is not a territorial disagreement. It has always been about
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Speaker 7: the place of an autonomous Jewish presence in the Middle East.
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Speaker 7: It has been a battle between Zionism on the one
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Speaker 7: hand and anti Zionism on the other, the survival of
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Speaker 7: a Jewish state or its complete destruction, And there is
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Speaker 7: no compromise or middle ground to be found between life and.
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Speaker 2: Death, and that is profound and that's what it comes
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Speaker 2: down to. And Alex spoke about the difference between the
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Speaker 2: Palestinian mindset versus other Arab nations.
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Speaker 7: Because the Egyptian, the Amorati, the Saudi might harbor resentment
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Speaker 7: of Israel, might view it as the thaun and the
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Speaker 7: body of Islam, but they're not defined by their opposition
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Speaker 7: to Israel and Zionism. They have civilizations, independent national identities,
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Speaker 7: stories and traditions that have nothing to do with Israel
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Speaker 7: and the Jews. They can cease war with Israel and
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Speaker 7: still remain who they are. But the Palestinian national identity
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Speaker 7: arose as a direct counterpoint to Zionism. Palestin identity is
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Speaker 7: opposition to Zionism and Israel. This is why the Palestin
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Speaker 7: flag is taken up by those with the fetish for
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Speaker 7: Arab resistance and anti Zionist ideology. The national heroes are
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Speaker 7: their martyrs, and so Palestinian nationalism is incapable of accepting
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Speaker 7: a two state solution that would extinguish their claims to
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Speaker 7: the entirety of the land and permanently entrenchs a Jewish
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Speaker 7: state in the heart of the Middle East. To do
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Speaker 7: so would not only destroy their dreams of a great return,
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Speaker 7: it would destroy their very identities. Western governments do not grasp.
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Speaker 2: This amazing points, and that is the fundamental problem with
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Speaker 2: Western nations now accelerating the move to a two state solution.
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Speaker 2: The issue isn't Israel. It's the Palestinian territories that won't
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Speaker 2: accept Israel having a state at all. And it's a
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Speaker 2: point Palestinian protests made in Melbourne this weekend. We do not.
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Speaker 8: Abide by this two state solution that Australia and other
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Speaker 8: Western nations call for.
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Speaker 2: They don't want a two state solution. They want the
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Speaker 2: destruction of Israel. And pushing for a two state solution
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Speaker 2: when the Palestinians won't accept any Jewish state at all
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Speaker 2: is madness from Western governments. A two state solution right now,
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Speaker 2: like it or not, is a fantasy, and it will
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Speaker 2: continue to be so until the Palestinian national identity is
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Speaker 2: no longer defined by hatred for Israel or as legendary
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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Golda Mayir put it, peace will come
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Speaker 2: when they love their children more than they hate us.
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Speaker 2: Until that time, the war in one form or another
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Speaker 2: will inevitably continue. I'm going to come back to that
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Speaker 2: topic shortly with Sharen Haskell, Israel's Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister,
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Speaker 2: also Mikhaylia Cash, Australia's shadow Foreign Affairs Minister. But now
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Speaker 2: let's bring in tonight's panel, Sky News host Jojoda Brand
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Speaker 2: and former Speaker of the House from and Bishop Great
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Speaker 2: to see again. Now I want to get through some
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Speaker 2: of the other news of the day, and there was
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Speaker 2: breaking news this afternoon that a Chinese national has been
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Speaker 2: charged with reckless foreign interference after allegedly being tasked by
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Speaker 2: China to spy in a Canbra Buddhist group. The Assistant
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Speaker 2: Commissioner of the AFP spoke about this, now, Bronwin, how
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Speaker 2: concerning are these allegations of foreign interference?
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Speaker 9: Hugely, hugely. This is the first time this legislation has
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Speaker 9: actually been used to arrest this person and bail be
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Speaker 9: denied because of the belief she would flee the country.
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Speaker 9: So it's We've got a government that has led us
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Speaker 9: down to this dependency on China for trade and wanting
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Speaker 9: to increase that dependency. We've got a government that says
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Speaker 9: that there is nothing to be fearful about in China.
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Speaker 9: And yet you've heard me say again and again what
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Speaker 9: China wants is Australia to be a vassal state. What
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Speaker 9: do I mean by that? It means that the sovereignty
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Speaker 9: of Australia would be surrendered to China and there would
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Speaker 9: be some autonomous internal power. Now, that is not something
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Speaker 9: I want for my country. I love this country and
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Speaker 9: I want this country to prosper. And yet every turn
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Speaker 9: the government is bringing in policies that make it harder
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Speaker 9: and harder for us to be a strong sovereign nation.
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Speaker 9: Not spending on defense, not spending on spending on the
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Speaker 9: wrong things, with rewiring the nation, expenditure we can't afford.
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Speaker 9: There is a deliberate policy, in my view, from the
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Speaker 9: socialist government that they want to see as part of
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Speaker 9: the socialist environment, not part of the free West.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the government's attitude to this is one thing.
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Speaker 2: But Joe, you know it shows AZO the AFP are
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Speaker 2: being very active in this space. And Mike Burgess also
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Speaker 2: recently revealed that ASIO had disrupted twenty four major operations
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Speaker 2: as well in the past year.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great.
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Speaker 4: I think the fact that Azio is talking openly about this.
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Speaker 4: It is naming China as a frankly a hostile foreign state.
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Speaker 4: The fact that this person has been publicly arrested and
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Speaker 4: will be charged, and this hasn't been done as often
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Speaker 4: these operations are covertly, I think actually shows a great
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Speaker 4: deal of strength and rightful courage from the government, and
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Speaker 4: our agencies are doing a fantastic job this. I think.
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Speaker 4: The significant thing well I'm telling you things about this
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Speaker 4: is that this is someone who is a permanent resident
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Speaker 4: here also Chinese national, but that they were being told
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Speaker 4: to spy on a Buddhist club, which gives you, I think,
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Speaker 4: an idea of the totalitarian mindset of the Chinese Communist
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Speaker 4: Party under Jijinping, that this is a country that, both
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Speaker 4: at home and abroad here is nothing seems beneath its
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Speaker 4: remit I mean, you would think this is surely beyond
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Speaker 4: even the would be a waste of time for a
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Speaker 4: government like China to pay attention to, and yet it
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Speaker 4: still sees fit to waste its time on these sorts
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Speaker 4: of activities. So I give you an idea of just
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Speaker 4: how deep China is in everything. And clearly you would
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Speaker 4: think this was because of links that members of this
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Speaker 4: club would have with family members back home, and again
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Speaker 4: the capacity for China to pressure Chinese expats in Australia
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Speaker 4: with repercussions to their family members. So it's great work
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Speaker 4: from our security forces.
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Speaker 2: For the AFP to take a move like this, it
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Speaker 2: needs the evidence of cost to build its case. And
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Speaker 2: you just wonder, given a lot of the communications happen
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Speaker 2: on encrypted apps, how much else is going on that's
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Speaker 2: just beneath the radar of apart zs as well.
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Speaker 4: A lot they're good, Our guys are good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, now Victorian Premier Justino Allen wants to enshrine
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Speaker 2: the right to work from home in her state's law.
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Speaker 2: She's going to consider using anti discrimination laws as the
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Speaker 2: basis for this. Apparently if you let someone if you
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Speaker 2: call something discrimination now brun when and of course Tanya
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Speaker 2: Pliversak is backed in the idea because it's a populous idea.
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Speaker 2: No doubt the alban Ezy government will be supporting it
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Speaker 2: as well to win more votes. But this is bizarre.
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Speaker 2: They should be up to businesses to decide where their
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Speaker 2: employees work.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, But of course we have the problem that during
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Speaker 9: the election, of course we had Jain human answers. There
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Speaker 9: was going to be no working from home for.
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Speaker 2: The public service.
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Speaker 9: That really cost us enormously in the campaign. So there
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Speaker 9: is a sympathy a sympathy for working from home, but
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Speaker 9: there are enormous problems with what Victoria's planning. For instance,
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Speaker 9: where their laws will be in conflict with federal laws,
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Speaker 9: then that will mean quite frankly, that the laws won't apply.
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Speaker 9: There's been criticism from the Fair Work Commission saying that
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Speaker 9: this is really detrimental to the concept of treating people
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Speaker 9: fairly in work because there are some jobs where you
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Speaker 9: simply can't work from home. You can't work from home
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Speaker 9: if you're a nurse or a doctor or a policeman,
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Speaker 9: you can't do it. So it is unfair in treating
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Speaker 9: people in a different way. So it's up to employers
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Speaker 9: and employees to negotiate whether or not they want to
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Speaker 9: have the work from home initiative. And indeed COVID has
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Speaker 9: brought upon us a change in attitude and there are
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Speaker 9: many people who are working from home but with an agreement.
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Speaker 2: With their employer.
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Speaker 9: So under this legislation, presumably if somebody said you can
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Speaker 9: have this job, but it's in the office, Oh no,
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Speaker 9: the government's told me I can have two days at home,
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Speaker 9: but we'll see.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's utterly extraordinary. Joe. I want to
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Speaker 2: ask of you on this, but I also want to
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Speaker 2: make sure that we don't run out of time, because
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Speaker 2: I really wanted tonight pay my respects to father Chris Riley.
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Speaker 2: He has passed away at the age of seventy and
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Speaker 2: his contribution to Australia will live on. He did incredible
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Speaker 2: work as the founder of Youth Off the Streets. You
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Speaker 2: can see your vision of him on my show a
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Speaker 2: few years ago. I mean he established the New South
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Speaker 2: Wales Homeless Youth charity back in nineteen ninety one. He
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Speaker 2: was CEO for nearly thirty years. He's just an incredible manner,
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Speaker 2: so phenomenal man. Yeah, and he passed away.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and you do.
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Speaker 4: I mean I work with the Salvos and with Vinnie's
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Speaker 4: and the people who do this sort of stuff. They don't,
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Speaker 4: I certainly don't do it for the paycheck. And they
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Speaker 4: feel a role that frankly government can't because it's a
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Speaker 4: role that you can only fill with real belief, a
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Speaker 4: real kind of zeal and a real passionate dedication to
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Speaker 4: human dignity, no matter how low that human might have
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Speaker 4: fallen in the circumstances of their life. And you see
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Speaker 4: what people do. You see how people like father Chris
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Speaker 4: know literally put people's lives back together, wrap around services.
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Speaker 4: It's not just a can of it's not just a
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Speaker 4: cup of soup and a soup kitchen. It's providing that care,
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Speaker 4: giving people respect, making them feel like they're wanted in
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Speaker 4: the world. And I see people doing this all that
25:05
Speaker 4: I'm privileged to be able to see people doing this,
25:07
Speaker 4: and always, honestly, it makes me cry like a baby
25:10
Speaker 4: every single time because the stuff they do is nothing
25:13
Speaker 4: short of miraculous. So he will be missed, his work
25:15
Speaker 4: will carry on.
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Speaker 2: I agree, he'll be sorely missed, and just the way
25:18
Speaker 2: he dedicated his life to helping others, and no one
25:22
Speaker 2: ever saw his work. He only ever you did interviews
25:26
Speaker 2: or came on my show when he needed it. The
25:28
Speaker 2: government stopped funding him at one point and we campaigned,
25:31
Speaker 2: we put the story on the front page of the
25:33
Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph to get the government to return his funding.
25:35
Speaker 2: But you know, his work was unseen. It was tireless
25:39
Speaker 2: and very sad that he's passed away after a fewness.
25:43
Speaker 2: Joe Grumman, thank you both very much for your time.
25:47
Speaker 2: Now let's return to the harbor Bridge march and the
25:49
Speaker 2: release of more hostage videos and joining me now Israeli
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Speaker 2: Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Charen Hascal. Charen, thank you for
25:57
Speaker 2: your time, and there is so much to talk about,
26:01
Speaker 2: but firstly I want to get your reaction to the
26:03
Speaker 2: harbor Bridge protest yesterday. One hundred thousand people turned out
26:08
Speaker 2: and just for your context, there's only around one hundred
26:10
Speaker 2: thousand Jews in Australia. Now. They claimed this was a
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Speaker 2: humanitarian match, but apparently no care for the dying hostages.
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Speaker 11: It's more than that, Sherry, I saw place cards and
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Speaker 11: postcards of the Ayatola flags of ISIS. Those are literally
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Speaker 11: useful idiots in the service of radical jihadist terrorist organizations.
26:35
Speaker 11: These are people who are not ashamed embarrassed from walking
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Speaker 11: with full armed pictures of the Ayatola, the Iranian terrorist regime.
26:47
Speaker 11: I mean, many of these people won't have survived even
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Speaker 11: an hour in Iran with what they are doing to
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Speaker 11: the LGBTQ community, to women, how they abuse.
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Speaker 12: Torture and rape them for the sole reason that they
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Speaker 12: didn't wear a headscarf. So to have a demonstration like
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Speaker 12: that with so much support to terrorist organizations and terrorist resume,
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Speaker 12: it's absolutely shameful. I don't think it should have even
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Speaker 12: been allowed to be protests from the start.
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Speaker 2: Agree. I agree with you, and you know you look
27:23
Speaker 2: at it and you just think, is Australia lost at
27:26
Speaker 2: the moment. It's a question A lot of people will
27:29
Speaker 2: be asking Charan. We're seeing Western leaders move towards Palestinian recognition,
27:35
Speaker 2: a two state solution, but how is this even possible
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Speaker 2: when Palestinians won't recognize Israel at all and Harmas would
27:44
Speaker 2: likely be elected as the leadership if there were elections
27:49
Speaker 2: in the West Bank Sharry.
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Speaker 11: Many of these government has set a ground rule, at
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Speaker 11: least three or four ground rules for a recognition and
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Speaker 11: a Powerian state. In the last couple of weeks all
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Speaker 11: of these ground declaration rules or conditions flew out the window.
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Speaker 11: This is like selling your morals, selling your moral compass
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Speaker 11: and your values and your belief out the window. And
28:19
Speaker 11: this is a declaration that is given the Palestinian, not
28:24
Speaker 11: the Palestinian but come as a terrorist organization, a reward
28:29
Speaker 11: for the worst massacre of Jews sense the Holocaust, look
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Speaker 11: on who's celebrating it. Come as were the first one
28:36
Speaker 11: to celebrate and congratulate those governments. The fact is that
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Speaker 11: one of the leaders of Hamas Ramsey, said two days
28:44
Speaker 11: ago in an interview that those declarations are a fruit
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Speaker 11: of the seventh of October massacre. What lesson do you
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Speaker 11: think terrorist organizations are going to learn from those declarations
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Speaker 11: from those actions of Western democracy. I mean, you need
29:03
Speaker 11: to understand that Israel's a frontline in a much bigger war.
29:08
Speaker 11: Iran is sending its froxies, their service organizations isis the hooties.
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Speaker 13: Chris Bala and Bobojora Al Shabab in Africa, in Europe,
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Speaker 13: in Asia, in Latin America. Do you think that with
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Speaker 13: those lessons they are learning and they are watching the
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Speaker 13: war that is happening right now and they are watching
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Speaker 13: closely the reactions of Western democracies and now will only
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Speaker 13: give them incentives to continue and terroriize people all around.
29:43
Speaker 10: The world to push forward with.
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Speaker 11: Abducting civilians, massacring, murdering them because they will truly believe
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Speaker 11: that they will be rewarded for it from the international community.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, we're saying that the Australian Prime Minister Anthony Alberesi,
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Speaker 2: who himself was a pro Palestinian protester and activist in
30:07
Speaker 2: his early political years while he was still in Federal Parliament,
30:11
Speaker 2: he's seeking a call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo,
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Speaker 2: do you think your prime minister will want to speak
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Speaker 2: with Albanesi. Look, I'll tell you this.
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Speaker 11: I'm not at the Prime Minister's office, but we have
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Speaker 11: a very long standing relationship with Australia. It's not just
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Speaker 11: in the government to government level.
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Speaker 10: This is the.
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Speaker 11: People to people throughout history since the First World War
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Speaker 11: when the Australian Battalion liberated Beersheba. So there's a mutual
30:46
Speaker 11: history and love and shared values between both of our
30:49
Speaker 11: countries and both of our people. Obviously there's been ups
30:53
Speaker 11: and down and it's been quite difficult in the last
30:56
Speaker 11: two years, but I truly that Australia, you know, will
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Speaker 11: not walk the same path of rewarding a terrorist organization
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Speaker 11: with a state, because that's what it actually means.
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Speaker 2: Well, well, i think you're being optimistic to hope that
31:16
Speaker 2: Australia won't follow that path, but we'll see we'll see
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Speaker 2: Sharan Haskell. Thank you very much as always for your time,
31:23
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. And just a reminder tomorrow night on
31:27
Speaker 2: the show, I have an interview with the brother of
31:30
Speaker 2: the emaciated hostage. You saw the images on the weekend
31:33
Speaker 2: Avatar David. He's coming on the show tomorrow night, so
31:36
Speaker 2: don't miss that, but still to come. You know the
31:39
Speaker 2: world has gone mad when even Donald Trump has to
31:41
Speaker 2: weigh in on a so called racist genes advertisement. Talk
31:46
Speaker 2: about that a little later. Plus an ABC employee is
31:49
Speaker 2: on the show speaking out about bias at the public broadcaster.
31:53
Speaker 2: That's all coming up. Welcome back and joinning. Our from
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Speaker 2: Perth is Shadowfeone Affairs Minister Mikhalia Cash. Mikhale A. Great
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Speaker 2: to see you. Now. I'll ask your reaction on Albanize's
32:08
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars in funding for Gaza. Also the Harbor
32:11
Speaker 2: Bridge rally in a moment. But let's start with the
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Speaker 2: Productivity Commission warning that the cost of net zero transition
32:18
Speaker 2: will be considerably higher than first thought. This report came
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Speaker 2: out today. Do you still think the goal of net
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Speaker 2: zero is worth committing to despite the new evidence about
32:31
Speaker 2: its mounting cost.
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Speaker 14: Well, let's be very clear, Shari, Labour's net zero plan
32:38
Speaker 14: is a costly con on Australians, its economic sabotage dressed
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Speaker 14: up airs as ideology and nothing more. And the question
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Speaker 14: that all Australians need to be asking themselves is this
32:51
Speaker 14: net zero at what cost? I mean, mister Alberanzi told
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Speaker 14: the Australian people his investment in his renewable zonely puffway
33:01
Speaker 14: would actually.
33:01
Speaker 10: Bring their prices down.
33:03
Speaker 14: And yet you have households, you have businesses, in particular
33:07
Speaker 14: small businesses now struggling under some of the highest energy
33:12
Speaker 14: prices ever in Australia. You have businesses closing, you have
33:17
Speaker 14: industry shrinking, you have jobs being lost.
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Speaker 10: But Shari, this is the irony.
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Speaker 14: Of mister Albanese's ideological obsession. Emissions in Australia are going up.
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Speaker 14: So look net zero, mister Albanesi. It is a costly
33:36
Speaker 14: conjob on Australians. But it is now for the Coalition
33:40
Speaker 14: to highlight two Australians, the cost, the hypocrisy, but more
33:45
Speaker 14: than that, the consequences of Anthony Alberese's ideological agenda.
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Speaker 2: So, just to be clear, do you think it's time
33:54
Speaker 2: to pull out of the now zero commitment just very quickly.
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Speaker 14: In the first instance, in twenty twenty two, we opposed
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Speaker 14: Labour's legislating of this commitment. I think people have forgotten that. Secondly,
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Speaker 14: I am on the record as saying you must put
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Speaker 14: the people of Australia first.
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Speaker 10: That will always be my greatest priority.
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Speaker 14: And net zero at this point in time is killing
34:19
Speaker 14: the Australian economy.
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Speaker 10: That is not good enough.
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Speaker 2: All right now, Albinizi has pledged an extra twenty million
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Speaker 2: dollars taxpayer funds in aid for Gaza, and this is
34:29
Speaker 2: as Labor tries to appease the group of people that
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Speaker 2: brought Sydney to a halt yesterday. Michaelia, is this a
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Speaker 2: good use of taxpayer funds?
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Speaker 10: Not if it rewards terrorism? Shahi. Let's be very clear.
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Speaker 14: We all want to see more aid get into civilians
34:48
Speaker 14: in Gaza, we all want to see the release of
34:50
Speaker 14: the hostages, and we.
34:52
Speaker 10: All want to see the war to end.
34:54
Speaker 14: But guess what this could be done by AMAS tomorrow?
34:59
Speaker 14: They themselves choose to continue with the war. Why isn't
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Speaker 14: mister Albanesi standing up each and every day and saying
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Speaker 14: we want the war to end tomorrow. That is the
35:12
Speaker 14: responsibility of Humas. I mean Hummus as you and I know,
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Speaker 14: they have been stealing, diverting, use whatever language you want.
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Speaker 14: The aid that has been going in it is not
35:24
Speaker 14: getting to the civilians in Gaza. It is being used
35:28
Speaker 14: by Humas to feed its soldiers to ensure that the
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Speaker 14: war can continue. And mister Albanesi needs to guarantee to
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Speaker 14: the Australian people that this twenty million dollars of taxpayer
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Speaker 14: funds is not going to reward terrorism. This is not theoretical,
35:46
Speaker 14: this is a reality. Humus is deliberately starving its own people.
35:53
Speaker 14: Why because they don't care Humusk could end this war
35:58
Speaker 14: tomorrow Shari they chew who is not to.
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Speaker 2: And also because of course the humanitarian crisis plays into
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Speaker 2: their hands. They're being rewarded for it. The leaders around
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Speaker 2: the world are being manipulated by Hamas and Mikhaylia. It
36:12
Speaker 2: seems like the world doesn't care about the footage we're
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Speaker 2: seeing of emaciated hostages.
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Speaker 14: How disturbed are you by these videos? I was utterly sickened.
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Speaker 14: Hummus are terrorists. They are dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
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Speaker 14: The Australian government listed them as a terrorist organization. Shari,
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Speaker 14: I never thought that I would live in a country
36:39
Speaker 14: where people don't seem to understand terrorists kill people who
36:46
Speaker 14: don't agree with them, and they do not stop killing
36:50
Speaker 14: people until they have achieved their objective.
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Speaker 10: Hamas is a listed.
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Speaker 14: Terrorist organization dedicated to the distrus of Israel. And if
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Speaker 14: people think that Harmas are going to stop at the
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Speaker 14: destruction of Israel, then you really don't know what they
37:10
Speaker 14: are ideologically committed to. So, Shari, this war could end
37:15
Speaker 14: tomorrow if Hamas released the hostages and surrendered, but they won't.
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Speaker 14: And in your introduction you referred to the words now
37:25
Speaker 14: of one of the Hummus political leaders who said the
37:29
Speaker 14: recognition of Palestine is now one of the fruits of
37:33
Speaker 14: October seven. That is an incredibly sobering thing to hear.
37:38
Speaker 14: And I have to say shame on mister Albanesi and
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Speaker 14: Penny Wong for not sitting back and understanding the actions
37:46
Speaker 14: the Anthony Albanesi Labor government are taking.
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Speaker 10: It is almost now on a daily basis.
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Speaker 14: You are in bolding and you are rewarding terrorists.
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Speaker 2: Very quickly because we're just about out of time. But
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Speaker 2: what did you make of the terror chants the terror
38:05
Speaker 2: flags on our national icon, the Harbor Bridge yesterday.
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Speaker 10: Shari, this wasn't a protest.
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Speaker 14: It was a political statement using one of our most
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Speaker 14: iconic pieces of infrastructure that has yet again.
38:21
Speaker 10: In bold and come us.
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Speaker 14: Why weren't the protesters chanting end the war tomorrow, released
38:29
Speaker 14: the hostages, lay down your arms and feed the people
38:34
Speaker 14: of Gaza. Can I tell you, I think you and
38:37
Speaker 14: I would agree if they were doing that, I would
38:40
Speaker 14: have said, now that is someone I need to listen to.
38:44
Speaker 14: But death, death to the IDF and a poster of
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Speaker 14: the iotolic CAHAMENI who is dedicated to the destruction of Israel,
38:53
Speaker 14: who funds terrorism. But more than that, where are the
38:56
Speaker 14: left protesting what he does to women in his own country?
39:01
Speaker 14: He jails them for not wearing the vial? Get serious
39:06
Speaker 14: out of.
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Speaker 2: One hundred thousand people. Also, no one showing a picture
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Speaker 2: of an emaciated hostage, no one showing the Bierbas family.
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Speaker 14: I mean the world is upside down, mckayley, with a
39:17
Speaker 14: political statement.
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time tonight. Thank you very much.
39:22
Speaker 10: Right always to be with you, shar Thank you all.
39:25
Speaker 2: Right, Still to come and ABC employee speaks out about
39:28
Speaker 2: the bias at the public broadcaster. He'll be on the show.
39:31
Speaker 2: Plus I'll show you what Trump has had to say
39:34
Speaker 2: about the Sydney Sweeney saga after the break Welcome back.
39:42
Speaker 2: Hollywood actress Sidney Sweeney has come under fire for appearing
39:46
Speaker 2: in an advertisement that played on the word jeans and
39:50
Speaker 2: jeans as in DNA. Some lefties have taken great offense
39:54
Speaker 2: to the advert. Some say it's racist, Others say that
39:58
Speaker 2: it promotes eugenics and whites premiacy. And now President Trump
40:02
Speaker 2: has weighed in.
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Speaker 3: Have a look if Sydney Sweeney is a registered Republican.
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Speaker 9: I think her head is fantastic. Okay, thank you very much.
40:11
Speaker 2: Everybody here joining me now to unpack this and more.
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Speaker 2: Is Skyny's contributor Kreisha Gatta, I mean Kraisha. The President
40:21
Speaker 2: has now weighed in. This has been a big controversy
40:24
Speaker 2: in the States.
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Speaker 15: It sure has there. Supposedly, the Internet Salutes figured out
40:32
Speaker 15: that she registered allegedly as a Republican. It seems to
40:34
Speaker 15: be her name, and it coincides with her buying property
40:37
Speaker 15: in the state of Florida where she registered. Look, it's funny.
40:40
Speaker 15: The reporter asked President Trump for this comment. It was
40:43
Speaker 15: a huge controversy culturally. He does understand cultural stories and
40:47
Speaker 15: has a talent, I would say, of inserting himself at
40:50
Speaker 15: the right time in those He's playing on the fact
40:53
Speaker 15: that he has made no secret of his shall we say,
40:56
Speaker 15: penchant for attractive women. It's gotten him in trouble at
40:59
Speaker 15: a different point in his life. So he's mentioned that,
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Speaker 15: but then doubling down on the fact that she's a Republican.
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Speaker 15: I think is interesting from a big picture perspective because
41:07
Speaker 15: it might be telling us that we're past cancel culture.
41:09
Speaker 15: It would have been anathema just a short time ago
41:11
Speaker 15: for somebody in the entertainment industry to come out as
41:14
Speaker 15: a Republican, and the fact that she's doing that, maybe
41:16
Speaker 15: that's a positive thing that people can feel free to
41:19
Speaker 15: express their political persuasions and not be canceled.
41:23
Speaker 2: Let's talk about his migration crackdown, because it does seem
41:27
Speaker 2: to be working. The US is reportedly on track to
41:30
Speaker 2: achieve net negative migration for the first time in fifty
41:35
Speaker 2: years now, Kosha. This was one of Trump's key campaign platforms.
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Speaker 15: Yes, this statistic is actually quite stunning that in the
41:45
Speaker 15: last half century it is the first time to as
41:48
Speaker 15: you say that we're seeing negative migration. It is something
41:51
Speaker 15: he ran on and won on frankly in his first term.
41:54
Speaker 15: That was one of his signature issues as well as
41:57
Speaker 15: this time around, and it's also remarked. But because what
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Speaker 15: it's doing is it's really challenging Shari what I think
42:03
Speaker 15: has become a truism or an axiom for the better
42:06
Speaker 15: part of the last half century and all Western spheres
42:08
Speaker 15: that immigration is necessary for growth economically in countries that
42:13
Speaker 15: have larger, aging populations. In the West, it's necessary for
42:17
Speaker 15: cultural enrichment, and diversity is our strength, and multiculturalism and
42:21
Speaker 15: all of that. And it's really interesting that he is
42:23
Speaker 15: really testing that, challenging that doing what the people want
42:27
Speaker 15: and voted for. And it's going to be very interesting
42:29
Speaker 15: if this continues to hold and not see any detrimental
42:32
Speaker 15: effects to the US economically. It really is showing a
42:35
Speaker 15: big playbook to leaders in other countries, including here in Australia,
42:38
Speaker 15: to really take a look at immigration policy and seeing
42:41
Speaker 15: if similar things might be warranted elsewhere.
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Speaker 2: Well here, of course, the immigration has propped up the
42:47
Speaker 2: budget and was there anything that kept us out of recession?
42:50
Speaker 2: Now big news in the US, but of course caused
42:53
Speaker 2: the housing market to go into absolute crisis. Now big
42:57
Speaker 2: news in the US as well the resignation of federal
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Speaker 2: Governor Adrianna Kugla, and it opens up a governor slot
43:04
Speaker 2: which Trump can then select. Now he's also sacked the
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Speaker 2: Bureau of Statistics Commissioner Kosher. What are these resignations really about?
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Speaker 15: So there are two slightly different reasons. The first one,
43:17
Speaker 15: she stepped down from the Federal Reserve. It does create
43:20
Speaker 15: an opening for Trump to appoint somebody which would actually
43:22
Speaker 15: make the Federal Reserve Board balance with three Democrat appointees
43:26
Speaker 15: and three Republican appointees. He's had a lot of animists
43:29
Speaker 15: with Chairman Powell wants him to reduce interest rates. He
43:32
Speaker 15: did not do that. This maybe could give him a
43:35
Speaker 15: little bit of an opening to increase pressure and influence
43:37
Speaker 15: in that regard. And then the BLS one, he basically
43:40
Speaker 15: fired her. She is a Biden appointee. Fired her for
43:44
Speaker 15: quote unquote sloppy work with too many revisions happening, he claims.
43:47
Speaker 15: Critics say that all of this means you know that
43:50
Speaker 15: these agencies aren't independent and they're getting politicized. But I
43:53
Speaker 15: think what Trump and his supporters would say, is everything's
43:55
Speaker 15: already been politicized. He's exercising Article two powers, which is
43:59
Speaker 15: he is free to fire people, certainly in the BLS case,
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Speaker 15: and get somebody who he believes is going to be
44:05
Speaker 15: much more dispassionate or not political about reporting jobs numbers
44:10
Speaker 15: and not than revising them up or down in a
44:12
Speaker 15: way that might favor one person or one political party
44:14
Speaker 15: over the other.
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Speaker 2: Right, Koschakata, thank you so much for your time and
44:19
Speaker 2: still to calm. A former ABC employee speaks out on
44:23
Speaker 2: editorial bias. He'll be on the show after this quick break.
44:31
Speaker 2: A former ABC employee has blown the whistle on the
44:34
Speaker 2: Public broadcasters editorial bias on the war in Gaza. Elin
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Speaker 2: Zetlerin is a Jewish video editor. He was with the
44:43
Speaker 2: Public broadcaster for fifteen years and he then felt compelled
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Speaker 2: to leave after his concerns over biased reporting were met
44:52
Speaker 2: with deflection or silence. And I'm pleased to say, Elin
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Speaker 2: joins me. Now, thank you for your courage and speaking out. No,
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Speaker 2: it's been so difficult for you. Can you tell us
45:04
Speaker 2: to start with what it was like as a Jewish
45:08
Speaker 2: person working at the ABC?
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Speaker 8: Thank you, Shari thank you very much for having me
45:15
Speaker 8: on your program. So my time at the ABC was
45:21
Speaker 8: for the most part a wonderful experience to be able
45:25
Speaker 8: to work with a team of very knowledgeable and professional
45:32
Speaker 8: people in all departments. I as a video editor, working
45:37
Speaker 8: mostly within news, but also within current affairs programs and
45:42
Speaker 8: also some other broadcast programs, so I got to see
45:46
Speaker 8: a little bit more than just working in one particular department.
45:51
Speaker 8: What I encountered, more so since October seven, which then
45:57
Speaker 8: ultimately led to my resignation, was for me a slow burn.
46:03
Speaker 8: It took a bit of time to really kind of
46:06
Speaker 8: realize that it wasn't good enough just being employed there
46:12
Speaker 8: and coming and doing my job to the best of
46:15
Speaker 8: my ability. But what I was seeing about the way
46:19
Speaker 8: that they were reporting on the conflict and also who
46:22
Speaker 8: they were giving a platform to locally to give comment
46:27
Speaker 8: about really issues that affected the broader Jewish community. For me,
46:37
Speaker 8: it never was an issue being Jewish. It wasn't something
46:42
Speaker 8: I needed to wear on my sleeve. It really started
46:49
Speaker 8: more so early last year when I was starting to see,
46:55
Speaker 8: especially with a particular story about a rally that I
46:59
Speaker 8: attend did in the city back in May last year.
47:04
Speaker 8: Never again is now rally put on to promote peace
47:09
Speaker 8: and harmony and a united gathering of Jews, Christians, Muslims
47:15
Speaker 8: or Iranians. When I saw the news report from the
47:21
Speaker 8: ABC that was done about the event, it really hit
47:26
Speaker 8: home that something wasn't right. The language used the way
47:32
Speaker 8: of pushing maybe pushing an agenda or not to you know,
47:42
Speaker 8: say that there were two rival rallies going head to
47:46
Speaker 8: head against each other, really black and white kind of reporting.
47:52
Speaker 8: So from that time onwards and then sorry, I just
47:56
Speaker 8: want to get.
47:56
Speaker 2: To some of the complaints you made before we run
47:58
Speaker 2: out of time, because you did raised sorry informal letters
48:03
Speaker 2: with the ABC. You complained about the anti Israel fringe
48:08
Speaker 2: group known as the Jewish Council of Australia being given
48:12
Speaker 2: a platform frequently. You raised complaints about the failure of
48:16
Speaker 2: reporters to challenge claims of genocide or apartheid when interviewing
48:21
Speaker 2: critics of Israel. What was the response from the ABC
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Speaker 2: when you put these complaints in writing. Yes, So.
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Speaker 8: It came to a head for me in December last
48:34
Speaker 8: year when I saw once again that a representative of
48:38
Speaker 8: the Jewish Council of Australia was being interviewed to give
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Speaker 8: comment about anti Semitism about attacks on the Adust Synagogue,
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Speaker 8: and so I took the chance. I reached out to
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Speaker 8: the ABC News director, Justin Stevens, with my concerns in
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Speaker 8: what I considered a very professional manner, a way to say,
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Speaker 8: as an employee who also happens to be Jewish, it
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Speaker 8: seems very odd that we're giving them any time to
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Speaker 8: give comment. I mean, if you needed to find someone
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Speaker 8: or an organization that was against Israel or against Zionism,
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Speaker 8: you know, just throw a rock out the window. You'll
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Speaker 8: find you'll find a lot of them. There's no need
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Speaker 8: to bring in someone from a newly formed council.
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Speaker 1: Anyway.
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Speaker 8: The concerns that I raised, I felt was met with.
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Speaker 8: It felt to me like it was just dismissed, it
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Speaker 8: was justified, it was swept under the carpet, despite the
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Speaker 8: fact that I was within the spirit of ABC Zone,
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Speaker 8: you know, being about inclusion and diversity and straight talking
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Speaker 8: and that we can have challenge conversations with each other.
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Speaker 2: Apparently not on this topic. Elan, We are out of time,
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Speaker 2: but again, thank you for your courage in speaking out.
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time and everyone at home don't miss
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Speaker 2: the show Tomorrow night. I've got the exclusive interview with
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Speaker 2: the brother of emaciated hostage Evtar David. Tomorrow night, Here's
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Speaker 2: Paul Murray.