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- 0:00Welcome to the One Small Change. As always, I am thrilled
- 0:04that you're taking some time to embark on this journey of exploration and
- 0:07transformation with me. And I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring
- 0:11almost 30 years of entrepreneurial experience and a
- 0:14passion for discovering growth through the power of seemingly small change.
- 0:19And I want to thank you for being here this week. And we
- 0:23have an amazing guest who's going to share that an
- 0:26unexpected or insignificant decision that sparked a
- 0:30remarkable transformation and growth in their life. And
- 0:34it may be personal or it may be professional.
- 0:37This week we are talking with Robby Samuels.
- 0:41Robbie, thank you for spending time with us and I cannot
- 0:45wait to hear what you have to say. I have. I wouldn't tell
- 0:49you, Yvonne, so it's a big secret.
- 0:52I have been to your events and your weekly.
- 0:58Your Friday Content Connection club. But I was there
- 1:02before it was coming. No more Bad Zoom Virtual happy hour. Yes, that's what
- 1:06it was. And I have to tell you, this man is really
- 1:09amazing. The stuff that he comes up with and his thought process.
- 1:13So I am not going to keep talking. I am going to let him take
- 1:17it away and tell us. So tell us your story and
- 1:21your, you know, seemingly small change and
- 1:24the impact that it had. So I'll start by
- 1:28saying I'm a multi passionate entrepreneur. I'm a book launch
- 1:31strategist. And I know we'll talk more about that in a little bit. I'm a
- 1:35professional speaker, I'm a podcast host, I am a
- 1:38strategist, I'm a business coach. I'm also a virtual event
- 1:42design consultant and an executive zoom producer. And yes, I do
- 1:45sleep. Here's my one small change.
- 1:50Years ago, I mean, this is probably seven years
- 1:53ago, I removed the contact form from
- 1:57my website because I was just getting
- 2:01so much spam. So much spam. And it was,
- 2:05it was exhausting, annoying, demoralizing
- 2:09because you're like, oh, I got a message. I didn't get a message. And in
- 2:12its place, I have Google Forms
- 2:16and I have Google Forms at the bottom of each of the pages or
- 2:20throughout each of the pages that I describe my services. And I have a contact
- 2:24me page or Contact us page that lists
- 2:27links to all the different Google Forms. And that way
- 2:31if someone is interested in booking me to speak, that's one
- 2:35form. If they're interested in me producing a virtual event, that's another one. If they
- 2:38want to talk about their book launch strategies, it's a different one, et
- 2:42cetera. And this has really changed
- 2:46how people arrive at the call how prepared I am for
- 2:49them and for the people who can't be bothered to fill out the form,
- 2:54then they're also not ready to do the work that I believe they'll
- 2:57have to do. So it's been a little bit of a litmus test,
- 3:01but it goes further than that. But that's the small change.
- 3:05Where it started was removing the contact form and
- 3:08replacing it with Google forms. So
- 3:12you may not have had a thought process when you did
- 3:16that. I mean, you probably said, I'm just doing this because
- 3:20this is irritating and I don't want to be bothered with, you know, these tire
- 3:23kickers. But the bottom line is
- 3:27that the thing that you did started
- 3:31to filtered the people,
- 3:34focus them in the area that they wanted. And
- 3:38so if you were looking at that as, I mean a lot of people will
- 3:41look at that and go, oh my God, I'm turning all these people away.
- 3:46But that's not really true, is it? Oh, not at all.
- 3:50I recently had the most awkward
- 3:53prospect call I've had in a really long time.
- 3:57It was a big not fit, you know, like something was
- 4:01off. And I earlier that day and later that day
- 4:05had great calls. So. So of course I'm trying to figure out like, what was
- 4:08the difference? Well, this person somehow got on my calendar and
- 4:11skipped filling out a form. And
- 4:16I now schedule calls. I mean, I do these 30 minute calls for
- 4:20like lots of services. But mainly right now I'm meeting with a lot of
- 4:23authors or writers about their books. And the
- 4:27more they come into that call having thought a little bit about
- 4:32why they wrote the book and their intended outcomes and strategies and goals,
- 4:36et cetera, the better we will have a good experience. I've even went and
- 4:39wrote an entire book about my book launch strategies. And if they have read that
- 4:43book or skimmed it before getting on the call, they're even more informed
- 4:47and we can dive into their unique situation. So when that happens,
- 4:50it's an incredible conversation and it's really, really helpful for them and I get
- 4:54clarity for them, et cetera. Part of it is that they
- 4:58go to a landing page or, or page on my website and they read about
- 5:02what I do. I'm also very transparent about price. So that was part
- 5:05of the. I don't want people showing up thinking they're going to pay $50 for
- 5:09a Zoom producer when it's $1,500. Right. I can't have
- 5:12that mismatch keep happening. And when people follow my process,
- 5:17it really, really works. So it also keeps me organized. So
- 5:20instead of having lots of inquiries. I now have a fathom that
- 5:24records these calls. So, so at the end of the call, I go to that
- 5:28spreadsheet tied to that Google form. I jot down a few keynotes
- 5:32and I grab the Fathom link and I drop it into the spreadsheet and
- 5:35I can mark them as a weak prospect, strong prospect, yay
- 5:39or nay. And when I'm ready to review my
- 5:43prospects, I can organize them by weak prospect or strong prospect and do
- 5:47my follow up. If I don't remember the details, I can look back at their
- 5:50answers that they had given to me about their book. I can
- 5:54look at the Fathom summary and that will usually be enough. I could also
- 5:58watch a moment of the video and then seeing them often clicks in place.
- 6:02So I could have a dozen conversations at any week.
- 6:06And so it could get very jumbled in my brain if I didn't have a
- 6:09system. So this system, in a way, got set up because of that
- 6:12one small change I made seven, almost eight years ago.
- 6:16Removing the contact form and replacing it with a Google
- 6:20form, well before this particular offer was even a twinkle in
- 6:23my eye. All right, well, what, what I want to do, if you don't mind,
- 6:27is I want us to take a step back from the
- 6:31actual system and all the techy parts of it,
- 6:35because, you know, I'm not very techy and I want to talk
- 6:39about the kind of the philosophy and
- 6:42as entrepreneurs, what this means. So
- 6:46a couple of ideas came up and I want your comment about that.
- 6:50So the first thing is I think most of us had the limiting
- 6:54belief of that there is a scarce amount
- 6:58of clients. And so we want to talk to everybody.
- 7:03There are some real downsides to that. So can you talk
- 7:06about that a little bit? Yeah, I actually
- 7:10tested this last year. So I was piloting a
- 7:14lot of ideas last year as I was building Biz Book Pub Hub, which is
- 7:17this resource ecosystem I developed. It's a mix of a curated
- 7:21directory of experts who support entrepreneurial authors, author
- 7:25events, speaker events,
- 7:28podcast. A lot of good things there. But we were sort of piloting all these
- 7:32ideas and I was booking calls with people who were on to join
- 7:36the expert network. And I was also having calls with writers and authors.
- 7:40And so I didn't make any money in Q1 of last year.
- 7:44I probably met with 20 people a week.
- 7:48And it was a lot to get it booked and to keep track
- 7:52of it and to just understand like what, what I was trying to get out
- 7:55of all those calls. It was deep research in a way. And
- 7:59because I did all that work, I was able to then refine who I would
- 8:02really like to meet with. So I recently spoke for a writing
- 8:06group in California that works with 50%
- 8:10business type authors, like people writing nonfiction books related
- 8:14to their business and 50% fictional authors.
- 8:17And after I did my presentation and I offered to book a call for 30
- 8:21minutes, I had fiction authors booking with me.
- 8:25And I did about three of those calls before I was
- 8:28like, I have to put something on my website that explains who I am here
- 8:32for because I have enough free content for them to get
- 8:35the lessons without meeting with me. Like, if they want to just generally understand.
- 8:39This is before I even had a book. There was podcast content and things I'd
- 8:43posted online and blogs, et cetera. So I had to start putting some
- 8:46boundaries up. And yet I didn't want to close it off
- 8:50to only people who had a book at a certain stage.
- 8:54Because I've learned that my best coaching
- 8:57prospects are people who are starting to work on a book
- 9:01or are further along in the book. But they want to make sure the book
- 9:04has a new revenue stream tied to it and they don't feel confident that they
- 9:07already have that lined up that they now the book is going to happen. They're
- 9:10now thinking about the next step. So I want to be open to
- 9:14those kinds of conversations, exploring those, because that becomes another
- 9:18opportunity for a different revenue stream. So I don't like,
- 9:21oh, you have to have a book and has to be, you know, I don't
- 9:23want to like too constrained, but I also know it has to be people who
- 9:27could potentially work with me. And who, who is
- 9:31that and who is that not. And that, that is
- 9:34a matter of kind of, you know, the concept of being a, you know,
- 9:39a bigger fish in a small pond versus being a small fish in a
- 9:42huge pond. I mean, the time that you
- 9:46spend talking with people who are not a right fit
- 9:50is draining for you and it's also not productive for them
- 9:54either. I mean, you're actually doing them a service. And,
- 9:58and I think that people, you know, when you have the right
- 10:02client and they value you, then
- 10:05they are not looking for you to discount their services.
- 10:10Right. And so that brings us to the price thing. It, it is
- 10:13not a good idea to make your, I mean, it's kind of
- 10:17like probably the easiest way I heard somebody explain is you have to decide
- 10:21are you going to be like, like a Walmart or, you know, or
- 10:25a Kmart and be a volume person or
- 10:28are you going to be a high class Like Nordstrom and be a high
- 10:32ticket person, you know, and that was like, oh,
- 10:36that's interesting. I mean, there is actually enough
- 10:39business for everybody if you're
- 10:43specific. And probably one of the most empowering things
- 10:47that, that ever happened to me was when I can
- 10:50say to somebody, here's, you know, a couple ideas that come
- 10:54to my head. But we really are not a good fit.
- 10:58Right. That's partly why I built a referral network too.
- 11:01Because when you feel confident about who you can send those folks to
- 11:05and that they'll get the support they need, then you're less likely to take them
- 11:08on. I want to be really clear about what I'm focused on. And
- 11:12I'm not helping you as a writing coach. I'm not a developmental editor. I'm
- 11:16not publishing your content. I'm not doing your social media
- 11:19marketing. I'm doing the launch. And it has really
- 11:23specific outcomes and it's for a particular purpose. And it will be most
- 11:27beneficial to a certain type of authority who has a business
- 11:31speaking, coaching or consulting. So them knowing
- 11:34all that coming in. In fact, you know,
- 11:38now it's all happening where people are getting referred
- 11:42to. Me going to book launch brainstorm.com
- 11:45seeing my note at the top saying, before we meet, I recommend you read my
- 11:49book and download my, my bonus content, which you can actually
- 11:52download whether you get the book or not. And they do that. And
- 11:56I had a woman get on a call the other day who had already put
- 11:59together a list of people invite to her launch team of over
- 12:03500. Oh my God. She had, in the two
- 12:07weeks, while waiting for the meeting to happen, started the
- 12:11process based on what she read in my book. And it, I'm
- 12:14really glad she did because her turnaround time was really close. Like she's like, I
- 12:18have this event in October. I want to have the book out for this event.
- 12:21And so we, we were able to build a timeline that met her
- 12:25tight turnaround because she came into the process
- 12:28like really clear, this is a solution I want, I've already done
- 12:32work to validate that it would work for me. Robbie's the right person.
- 12:36I trust his process. And she saw my price and she was like,
- 12:39oh yeah, I remember your price. It was reasonable. And her only question was whether
- 12:43to hire my implementation team or to do it with
- 12:47her team. And I really strongly emphasize you should if
- 12:50you have a team member to do it. Like I'll, I can train them up.
- 12:54Like it's a good skill to have. And she thought about it and was like,
- 12:57nope. I actually want you to do it. And so like that was the
- 13:01only question in her mind. And then suddenly she's buying the
- 13:05entire package for me, including a 90 minute
- 13:09coaching session to help develop the new offer.
- 13:13So it was the book launch, the full book launch package plus a coaching
- 13:16package. And it she sold herself, you know,
- 13:20like that I didn't do anything except degree. So
- 13:24again, I'm going to go back kind of to the non techie kind
- 13:28of way we can do this. And one of the ways, you know, that I
- 13:32talk about is being yourself, you know, and
- 13:36you know, for me it's really funny because
- 13:40I have this thing that I do in my workshop that you come up with
- 13:43three words so you don't have to write a mission statement and a vision statement,
- 13:46all that kind of stuff. You come up with three words about the way you
- 13:50want to be. My three words are
- 13:53energetic, adventuresome and curio. Cur, you know, curious.
- 13:57Okay. And so what I have found since I've started
- 14:01putting that into, I mean I actually a different version of those
- 14:05three words I actually used to lose over
- 14:08£150. So since I've been
- 14:11using it on my business, I'm finding that the
- 14:15people that I get on calls with now say to me, I love your
- 14:19energy. Which means the people that don't love my energy are not
- 14:23calling, you know, which is good because it
- 14:26means, you know, I'm connecting with the right people. And the last
- 14:30call, you know, the last couple calls I've had, I'm like, you know, this
- 14:34is wonderful, this is great. What, what can I do for you? And she's like,
- 14:38I'm interested in working with you. Let's talk about that. And I'm like, okay, good.
- 14:41I'm, I'm good with that. You know, so it really
- 14:45does, when you put that filter, it really makes a
- 14:49difference in terms of
- 14:52who comes into your world and the people who come in are better
- 14:56qualified and more in touch with what you
- 14:59want to do. And you're not under, you know, you're not over delivering and
- 15:03underpricing. Right, Right. So you're happy
- 15:07too, right? 100%. I think
- 15:10when I think back to the moment where we had a mismatch call the other
- 15:14day, she came in wanting to inquire about me hosting,
- 15:18designing and hosting her book launch party because she had sort of read about that
- 15:21in my book, but she was asking about it in a like
- 15:25divorce from the rest of the process. So I was like, okay, but first,
- 15:28can I ask you some questions about the rest of the process. And I poked
- 15:32some holes in her plans and she was
- 15:36smiling through her teeth. She was not
- 15:39pleased with my line of inquiry.
- 15:43And even at one point was like, I have a business coach. And I'm
- 15:47like, yeah, but I mean, so finally she's like, I want to know about your,
- 15:50your party. And I tell her about it. And she goes, no, but I wanna
- 15:53know the price. I'm like, oh, it's on my website. It's fifteen hundred dollars.
- 15:56And she, she was like, you're being, we're having this really inefficient
- 16:00call. I thought we would click and we're not. And I said, well, you could
- 16:03spend a lot less than $1500 if you just want someone to manage your chat.
- 16:07Like, that's not why you're hiring me. And that's where it's energy.
- 16:10Like, the clients that want to work with me love the fact that I can't
- 16:14help but teach them something like, you can't hire me for one
- 16:18thing. I am a multi passionate entrepreneur. I bring all the tools in the
- 16:21toolbox. And those who appreciate that. I have
- 16:25nonprofit leaders who are not entrepreneurs but are
- 16:29very entrepreneurial who end up leaning into a lot of my entrepreneurial skill
- 16:32sets to figure out how to run their nonprofits. And so we're talking about
- 16:36their fundraising event and I'm helping think about marketing,
- 16:40right? And they're like leaning into what I've learned. And so
- 16:43that's, that enhances why they wanna work with me now. It detracts.
- 16:47So it's just very like, be who you are. It's also why I have one
- 16:51website for everything. I don't have 17 brands.
- 16:54I have one website. I have a very clear audience for everything I
- 16:58sell. There's some overlap between some of those audiences,
- 17:02but it's one place because it's me. You hire me and you happen
- 17:06to get all the tools in my toolbox. Everything, right?
- 17:09It's, it's interesting because, you know, somebody, one
- 17:13time somebody said, why do you say women's business strategists?
- 17:17And I say, because I enjoy working with women. That
- 17:20doesn't mean that I won't work with a man. If there, if
- 17:24we have rapport, you know, but
- 17:27it's also, you know, I also work with couples. If it comes up, you
- 17:31know, for you've got a business and it's a couple, you'll do that. But you
- 17:35have to have one, you know, at least one thing that people can know you
- 17:38for and find you. Which doesn't mean that you don't give them
- 17:42everything, you know, I mean, it's, It's. I was telling you
- 17:46that when I used to coach executive women, one
- 17:50of the weird things that they liked about me, besides the fact that I made
- 17:53them calm, is I had good mom advice.
- 17:57And I used to say I went to Wharton for this. But, you know,
- 18:01but my. My actual, you know, power is coming up
- 18:04with systems that work whether they're technical or not.
- 18:08And so, you know, I mean, one of the systems that I came up with,
- 18:12my son, who would never get dressed in the morning and just
- 18:15drove me crazy, was on Saturday we would, you know, put
- 18:20seven out, you know, six outfits together, underwear, socks,
- 18:23tops, bottoms, the whole bit. And in the morning, he could pick the one
- 18:27that he wanted. I didn't have to, like, you know, it wasn't me, you know,
- 18:31and by the end of the week, he had changed things around so that he
- 18:35was wearing plaids and stripes. And then I learned to buy solid colors.
- 18:39That's funny. But I didn't have that problem anymore. And
- 18:42they were like, this is a great system, you know, and it was.
- 18:47But go ahead. I want to just jump in. That thing you said earlier
- 18:50about how you're a women's business strategist.
- 18:54When I was really focused on talking about my book, sorry, my business
- 18:58coaching, my business growth strategy coaching offer. I
- 19:02always define that. I tend. I always say I tend to
- 19:06work with. Which even that phrasing, right, that leaves open
- 19:10that there might be some edges around this. I tend to work with
- 19:13entrepreneurial women in their 50s and beyond who are looking to grow
- 19:17their impact to income through some kind of new revenue stream.
- 19:20And then I say, well, and parenthetically, a few good men.
- 19:24And there's always kind of a laugh about it. But I say the kind
- 19:28of guys that are attracted to the way I talk about the work
- 19:32that I do are the kind of guys that can hang out in a room
- 19:35full of women comfortably. And they're the kind of guys I'd
- 19:38want to hang out with, because I'm usually the guy in a room full of
- 19:42women. And if you're that kind of guy that can also hang there, like, that's
- 19:45the kind of person I'd want to work with. But it's
- 19:49interesting how some people will think that's too closed off.
- 19:53And I'm like, I can't be for everyone. Like, there's a reason
- 19:57it's not 30 year olds, you know, And I. And I can
- 20:01explain it. I can. I have a reason now. When you first, get started. You
- 20:04don't. I actually use the term likely prospect instead of the term
- 20:08ideal client when I'm working with people if they don't have a
- 20:12proven offer. Because I know when I was getting started, I
- 20:15did not like any of these questions on all these, you know, you buy these,
- 20:19like, programs and the first modules, like, describe your ideal client. And I
- 20:23feel like I was just making things up, you know, Starbucks or Dunkin
- 20:27podcasts or audiobooks. Do they listen in the shower, in the car? I'm like, I
- 20:30don't know. And now I do know because I've actually
- 20:34worked with these people. But back then, if we just said, well, who's your
- 20:38likely prospect? I probably would have had a lot more freedom to start thinking
- 20:42about who in my community could be that person. I want to throw something in
- 20:45because this is like my number one pet peeve is that,
- 20:49first of all, you know, my story is that I was in a
- 20:52$25,000 a year program, and at the end of that year, I did not know
- 20:56who my ideal client was, because I could. They didn't fit in into a box,
- 21:00right? And so, you know, I don't call
- 21:04it ideal client. I call it your right client. And what I say is,
- 21:07I work, you know, I work with entrepreneurial women and
- 21:11enlightened men, you know, and. And the other
- 21:15thing is, I did. I. I did my, my lead
- 21:18generator, and I started it with
- 21:21the first thing. I started it with who are the people whose needs you're
- 21:25fulfilling, who love you, and what are the things that they got
- 21:28unexpectedly? Because if you start with who's your right client
- 21:32or who's your ideal client, you're stuck. And you never
- 21:35go. And you, you can never go any further. So I reverse engineered
- 21:39it. You know, the clients that you have are the people you know, whether they
- 21:43paid you or not, that you liked working with. And then you can
- 21:46go backwards and, and backfill, you know, the
- 21:50stuff that, you know, the stuff that you're doing. Oh, my God, we could talk
- 21:53about this forever. I have one more thing then. Let's, let's. If we can
- 21:57include this before we change topics. I like to
- 22:01ask people, if I was talking with someone and realized
- 22:04that I should introduce them to you, what is that person complaining about,
- 22:08talking about, challenged by? And that
- 22:13changes the conversation because now we're looking at what phrases, what
- 22:16language, what emotion, what situations are they in the middle of?
- 22:21My brain also can then more likely latch onto whether
- 22:24I know those kinds of people better than if they
- 22:28described like Some demographic even, because even 50
- 22:32year old entrepreneurial woman is not specific enough to like what
- 22:35would cause you to want to introduce them to me? It's because of something that's
- 22:39happening. So that's been my like
- 22:42workaround. So I went on a 30
- 22:46minute phone call and she said to me, what situation are your clients
- 22:49in? And I was like, oh my God, they're all trying to scale
- 22:53their business. They're spending too much time in the weeds and not
- 22:57don't have a strategy to get into the bigger picture of what they want. I
- 23:00mean, it was like magic, you know? All right, great question. It's
- 23:04why coaches need coaches. So
- 23:08before we run out of time, let's make sure people know what the free, the
- 23:12free gift is you have and the three or whatever
- 23:16number you've got. Actionable steps that you think people should take away from
- 23:19this. So I wrote four books and one of them
- 23:23is called small list big results. Launch a successful offer.
- 23:27No matter the size your email list. The basic premise is no matter how
- 23:31big or small the email list is, and we always want it to
- 23:34be bigger, your network is bigger.
- 23:38Okay. And that concept is also the basis
- 23:42of the fourth book, which is launch your book an entrepreneur's
- 23:45guide to reviews that drive revenue. The idea is that you lean into your existing
- 23:49network. So I'm going to recommend that people go to
- 23:52smallestbigresults.com and download the bonus content.
- 23:56If they don't have a book that will really help them thinking about
- 24:00how to identify people in their existing
- 24:04network that are likely prospects, referral partners,
- 24:07or general supporters. If they have a book or are thinking about a
- 24:11book, then similar concept, but more very specifically
- 24:15focused on the launch. Then if you go to booklaunchbrainstorm.com,
- 24:18you'll get the book and you can just jump in and get that bonus content.
- 24:22With or without buying the book. You can always get my bonus content.
- 24:26And I'm just challenging people that if you're going to build a new offer,
- 24:30do not just build it in secret
- 24:34and then tinker with it and go bring it out into the world
- 24:38and expect people to buy it. Do not go to people to do quote unquote
- 24:41research calls where the only question is, now that I've spent
- 24:4525 minutes describing this thing that I poured a ton of effort into, do you
- 24:48think you should have a blue button or a green button? Because you're answers
- 24:52to that question will not tell you whether people are going to buy from you.
- 24:55So do research calls before you develop it
- 24:58before you have tried to figure it out. And also stop trying to put things
- 25:02on your website before you've sold it. Just no one, those initial
- 25:06like half dozen dozen people who are going to buy from you are going to
- 25:09buy from you. You don't even know what it's called yet. You
- 25:13don't have to know exactly how many sessions like they're going to buy because they
- 25:16helped create it. And that's what a good research call can do. So if
- 25:20you have a really clear sense, my, my process is called wake
- 25:24up your network and it helps you figure out
- 25:27the first first part of this is a two part question. Would they remember
- 25:31my name and would I be happy to hear from them out of the blue?
- 25:35So Yvonne, you remember my name and I reached out of the blue you'd be
- 25:38happy to hear from me. So you know, if you saw my name you're like
- 25:41okay, yes Robbie, then the question is connection.
- 25:46My influence and my interests. So how
- 25:49strong of a connection do we have? What kind of influence do I have in
- 25:53the context of whatever it is you are doing and how interested might I be
- 25:56in that topic? And based on the answer to those questions, you can either decide
- 26:00that I'm a likely prospect, a referral partner, or
- 26:04some people are general supporters and some people just don't fit and that's fine too.
- 26:08But it's not fun work. I can't tell you it's going to be the best.
- 26:12But if you do it and it's like and as little as a weekend, you'll
- 26:15end up with hundreds of names on a list. And if you really go through
- 26:18that list over the next 612 months, all kinds of new
- 26:22revenue and media opportunities will come from that curated,
- 26:26thoughtfully put together list. Depending on where
- 26:30you are in your business, whether it's research calls, sales calls, launch team,
- 26:34but that's the group of people that you need to figure out. You do not
- 26:37need thousands of people following you to be effective.
- 26:41You need just a few hundred who understand who you are, what you do and
- 26:44they'll remember you when they're thinking about that. It's like who knows what
- 26:48you know and will they remember you when they need it? So I don't know
- 26:51how many of those were, but those are the things that I would tell people
- 26:54to do. And that goes right into what
- 26:58I just said is, you know, you need to be found and
- 27:02everything that you do
- 27:06needs to kind of go into that focus, focus on that, you know, and,
- 27:10and I the through line for. My business
- 27:14because I am A multi passionate entrepreneur. I had some really good
- 27:17fortune of sitting with Tamsen Webster, who's an incredible
- 27:21messaging strategist. And I've known her a long time, so she's seen
- 27:24my business evolve and she said, what's basically, what's the through line?
- 27:28And I said, I don't know if I like the answer I have for you
- 27:31because you're you. And I don't really suddenly I don't feel good about my
- 27:35answer. And she looked at me and went, be seen and be heard. And
- 27:38I'm like, what? She's like, everything you do, whether it's virtual
- 27:42events, you help speakers be seen to be heard. If you're organizing
- 27:46a book launch, you're helping authors be seen to be heard. If you're working with
- 27:49a client who's got a new offer, you're helping them be seen to be heard.
- 27:51Like people going to a conference and they're learning how to network because the
- 27:55tools you've given them, you're helping them be seen and be heard. Like, that's what
- 27:58I do. The medium changes, the modality changes.
- 28:01But ultimately that's discovery. Being
- 28:05discovered is really important. I'm going to say this one other thing because
- 28:09we, we gotta wrap it up. It's
- 28:12interesting. I went back and looked at some of the stuff
- 28:15from like 15 years ago and I
- 28:19was like, this is so good,
- 28:23that's great. This is exactly where I am now. But I
- 28:27let people, you know, I listened to people and I was like, okay, well we'll
- 28:30massage it, we'll do this, we'll do. And I'm like, man, if
- 28:33I'd stuck with that, I would have been, you know, because I jokingly say I'm
- 28:37a 30 year overnight success. But anyway, okay, so here's
- 28:41the, here's the, you know, the, the surprise question. When was the last time
- 28:44you did something new for the first time?
- 28:49So AI has evolved and I tend to
- 28:52only like to learn technology to serve a purpose and not just
- 28:56to learn it. And I needed to create some new Google
- 29:00forms and I was asking ChatGPT for
- 29:04some questions and some like context to put in the top
- 29:08description. And then I thought, can you help me create this?
- 29:11Like, what is a way that you can help me? Like what's, what's the way
- 29:15this can be created? And it gave me like five options and one of them
- 29:18was to create a script. And then it showed me like how I can go
- 29:21to a special Google website and upload the script that it created for me.
- 29:25And lo and behold, Ivan. I did the thing and
- 29:29I pressed, you know, run, and the. The whole form
- 29:33got created with all the questions and I just had to go
- 29:37in and, like, make minor tweaks, like, so even the, like,
- 29:40effort of copying and pasting and choosing whether it's a drop
- 29:44down or whether it's a short answer, a lot. Like, all that was done.
- 29:48All that was done. It was incredible. So not only did it give me great
- 29:51questions, we had a bit of a back and forth about what the purpose of
- 29:54the form was, but now I know that
- 29:58I probably could be creating scripts for other things. Like, it's just. It's just open,
- 30:01just like unlocked a part of my brain I just didn't know was there.
- 30:05That's great. I mean, I said. I said. I said, one day
- 30:09I cut and paste this, you know, from this Google form, put in chat GPT,
- 30:13and I said, can you generate this thing for my newsletter? And it was
- 30:16like, yeah. And it did it. And I was like, if I had a better
- 30:20form, what would it be? And it said, this is what I would add
- 30:24to this. Do you want me to create it? I'm like, yes, please.
- 30:29I love systems like that. Oh, that's a whole.
- 30:33That's a whole nother podcast. Yeah, we gotta go. Thank
- 30:37you. As the first step, I hope that you will subscribe, share
- 30:41and engage this podcast on social media. And,
- 30:45you know, the whole purpose of the podcast is to help you to supercharge your
- 30:48business through connection and bring people into your community
- 30:52that you may not have thought of. It's my way of giving back
- 30:56and exposing people who have been helpful in my
- 31:00journey. So I hope you will join me again for the one small change
- 31:04and look at how a tiny shift can really
- 31:08yield a huge impact. And if you haven't done it yet, you might
- 31:11want to listen to the first episode just to see what I was
- 31:15thinking about in terms of trying to
- 31:19step into boldness and innovative possibilities. Before
- 31:23we go, Robbie, do you have any last words or any favorite quotes you'd like
- 31:26to share? There was a mantra that I used a lot in
- 31:302020 that helped me move forward in very tumultuous,
- 31:33turbulent times, and that is show up and offer value. That was all I
- 31:37was trying to do, and that's all I'm still trying to do. Show up and
- 31:40offer value. Fantastic. Okay, everybody,
- 31:44remember, change is simple, but it's not always easy. It requires
- 31:48courage, resilience, and a willingness to step outside your comfort zone.
- 31:52So, again, join me for the one small change as we embark on this. This
- 31:56journey with a bold vision and innovation. And until then,
- 32:00stay curious. Thank you, Robbie. Thank you.
- 32:04Bye.