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#119 - Andy Mineo · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Dagger a bushki A shout out to my guy TK,
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Speaker 1: Man Tk TK go follow him at TK What is It?
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Speaker 1: The Wizard? Hey, welcome to the bluelet Cap podcast. Man,
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Speaker 1: what's good? You know we talked about my good friend
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Speaker 1: TK for a second, who happens to be my in
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Speaker 1: house engineer here at Breddy Says Studios. And it only
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Speaker 1: makes sense that we talk about TK because he is
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Speaker 1: a devout Christian and the artist who is on the
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Speaker 1: podcast today is also a devout Christian. His name is
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Speaker 1: Andy Mineo. Shout out to him. He came by the podcast.
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Speaker 1: We talked about Jesus Christ, amongst other things. He's an
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Speaker 1: incredible rapper, got a dope just movement going on. Man,
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Speaker 1: I really respect what he's got going on, and that's
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Speaker 1: coming from an atheist me, So we chop it up
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Speaker 1: to save twenty percent. Let's talk to Andy Mineo on
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Speaker 1: the Bootleg cav podcast. Yo Man, Bootleg keV Show special
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Speaker 1: guest here the homie and uh, I wasn't gonna call
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Speaker 1: you Andy, Bro. Andy Mineo's here. What's up, bro? He said,
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Speaker 1: my last name right, So I got big respect. I'm
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Speaker 1: schelling man. Yeah. How often do you get like maneo
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Speaker 1: or oh, it's butchered every time? What is like the
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Speaker 1: most annoying renounciation for you, like when people get it
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Speaker 1: wrong mineo because it sounds like mayonnaise, So you know
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Speaker 1: that's the one. I'm like, I no respect, no respect,
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Speaker 1: no respect. At this point, I don't even care. It's
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Speaker 1: crazy because in one of my one of my bigger
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Speaker 1: records that went gold, that's say it in the record.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Mineo. Say it with me, Minio. Okay great.
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Speaker 1: Uh So you know they're like, I'm a huge fan man, Mineo.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you've never heard a song in your life
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Speaker 1: because you would have at least heard that record. And
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Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear to hear that you like my
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Speaker 1: song that went viral on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: That's right. I'm happy to hear you like coming in Hot.
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Speaker 1: That's right. That's right, huge, huge, fucking fit yo. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: big shout out to a mountain. I meant check Ghost Energy,
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Speaker 1: need to cut that check. So has this been your
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Speaker 1: first time hitting the road since the world Yeah, fin
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Speaker 1: ste old panty. This is uh, you know, we actually
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Speaker 1: had a whole It's funny look on the back of this.
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Speaker 1: This is like the tour merch that was all the
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Speaker 1: cities we were supposed to hit, right, but it wasn't that.
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Speaker 1: It was only like what like eight or something, right
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Speaker 1: or right now we're only doing nine cities, right, But
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Speaker 1: on the you know, we had these pressed before the
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Speaker 1: whole thing shifted gear. But we were gonna do twenty
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Speaker 1: four cities or something like that. I had a whole band,
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Speaker 1: and basically what happened is when we started figuring out
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Speaker 1: what was going on with the mandates, what was also
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Speaker 1: happening with like if anybody gets sick, what you have
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Speaker 1: to deal with. We were like, yo, we can't take
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Speaker 1: this risk because financially, you could just sink yourself. So
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Speaker 1: it had a full band, and if one person gets sick,
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Speaker 1: you can't put them on the bus, you can't fly
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Speaker 1: him home. You have to leave them in that city
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Speaker 1: for ten days, pay for their hotels, pay them, pay
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Speaker 1: them their per diem, fly someone new end the same day,
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Speaker 1: have them learn all the parts, and then pay them.
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Speaker 1: So now you're paying double triple. And that's only if
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Speaker 1: one person gets sick. So imagine get right and then
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Speaker 1: you know that's going to happen, right, somebody get exposed.
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Speaker 1: So we was like, yo, we can't be out here
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Speaker 1: paying for thirty hotel you know, nights and doing so.
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Speaker 1: It just didn't make sense. So we just shrunk the
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Speaker 1: show down. We limited our exposure down to like seventeen
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Speaker 1: days on the road instead of forty, right, so if
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Speaker 1: anyone gets sick by the time, you know, we find out,
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Speaker 1: hopefully they can be home to quarantine. But everyone's good
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Speaker 1: so far. Damn. It's weird, man, it's a weird time.
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Speaker 1: Even the tour too. So that was gonna say, like
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Speaker 1: I know, like you know, the homies Chris Webby and
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Speaker 1: Dizzy and Futuristic had of tour that they just canceled
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Speaker 1: because of all the shit that was going and they
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Speaker 1: didn't want to deal with the mandates. Chris was like, Yo,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make nobody. Who's my fan? Get mandyvac
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Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So it's weird. Are you vaccinated?
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Speaker 1: I am? Yep. Yeah, you and me both, we're both
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Speaker 1: jabbed up. Yeah, I got the h I got ma
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Speaker 1: and me too. Pfizer poppies in the building. Yeah, my
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Speaker 1: dog got the Johnson and john And how's he doing
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Speaker 1: with your life? He's like, I'm barely vas know what
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Speaker 1: I'm doing now. Yo. The Johnson and Johnson just sounded
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Speaker 1: good because it was like, so it's just one and done, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then everyone and then you grow, you know, a
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Speaker 1: third eye. So this is what it is. Yo. It's
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Speaker 1: crazy though, because we were talking like how the mandate
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Speaker 1: ship mat. I just feel like we're just living in
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Speaker 1: a very weird time. You were saying, how like some
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Speaker 1: of your California shows that usually would sell out aren't
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Speaker 1: selling how they usually would would because because a lot
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Speaker 1: of your fans are not wanting to adhere to some
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Speaker 1: of the local policies as far as vaccinations and et cetera.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people moved so like you know,
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Speaker 1: I was saying I was hitting my community, and people, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they just like, Oh, I don't even live there no more, Bro,
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Speaker 1: I'm gone. So this is the strangest selling. But what's
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Speaker 1: crazy is the rest of the tour has been selling
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Speaker 1: fun in the Southern states in Florida and Texas all that.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm like, oh, I think it might
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Speaker 1: just be Cali on lockdown still, but I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Who knows. Man, It's just very strange, No, it is, man.
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Speaker 1: I feel like like like I just every day some
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Speaker 1: new shit happens and I'm like, are we fucking living
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Speaker 1: in a simulation? Yeah? Bro, the world has really changed,
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Speaker 1: and they're firing nurses out here for not getting vaccinated
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Speaker 1: and they were working during the pandemic. What the fuck
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Speaker 1: is going on? Like a lot of nurses also not
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Speaker 1: want to get vaxed. I'm like, there's so many there's
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Speaker 1: just so many angles. It's like, what is happening? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like why are the like? Yeah, it's just it's it's crazy, bro,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, boy our boy Kyrie not gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to play in New York and what's psychotic? You
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Speaker 1: know what's wild is I don't know if this is true,
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Speaker 1: but I saw on Twitter someone had said that Michael
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Speaker 1: Porter Junior is going to be able to play in
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Speaker 1: New York and he's not getting vaccinated. So when he
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Speaker 1: comes to New York, he's gonna be able to play,
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Speaker 1: but they won't like Kyrie play, which would be kind
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Speaker 1: of wild. Maybe because he's I don't know, maybe because
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Speaker 1: New York pays him what, you know, he's in different states.
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Speaker 1: He's going to play different taxes for merch that I sell.
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Speaker 1: That that might make sense because he's all his tax
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Speaker 1: money's coming through New York. Maybe maybe the Kyrie shit
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Speaker 1: is crazy though it is wild. Shout out MPJ. I
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Speaker 1: did a little MPJ freestyle. He's gonna pop out and
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Speaker 1: done right next week. Oh really Yeah, it's the homie man,
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Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior popping out at the show. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna pop out, und axed, unvaxxed at a show. Might
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Speaker 1: have to you might be the reason why the Nuggets
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Speaker 1: have a breakout. He's not coming. He's not coming to
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Speaker 1: the show. There's the kind of fire if you had
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Speaker 1: him pull up though. Yeah. I mean he's on my
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Speaker 1: fantasy basketball team, so okay, perfect. I hope oh you
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Speaker 1: got him. Yeah. I think a lot of people let
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Speaker 1: him slip because they were like, he's not vaxed. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: fuck that. Oh yeah, okay, run me, MPJ baby and
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Speaker 1: have a breakout your and could definitely hurt your fantasy
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Speaker 1: if he gets if you go out for a week,
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Speaker 1: you know what. It's crazy about it. When I was
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Speaker 1: talking with MPJ, we did like a I did a
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Speaker 1: freestyle before the album came, MPJ freestyle. So he jumped
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Speaker 1: on a live with me. He was talking a little
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Speaker 1: bit and he said when he actually got COVID right
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Speaker 1: before the bubble, and what happens is after you get COVID,
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Speaker 1: it could take like months for you to get a
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Speaker 1: negative test, right, So these antibodies hanging around exactly, just hanging.
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Speaker 1: So he was like, yo, I almost couldn't play in
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Speaker 1: the bubble because even though I had it a month before,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't produce a negative test. And so it just
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Speaker 1: you kept up to get tested every single day until
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Speaker 1: you finally get that green light. But that's I mean.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna do some overseas travel this year and
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Speaker 1: I got COVID and I couldn't reproduce a negative test,
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Speaker 1: and so we were just like, I can't go to
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Speaker 1: Italy and then be stuck over there? Are you Italian? Yeah? Yeah, OK,
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Speaker 1: So I'm like I can't go over there? Are you talking? No? No, No,
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Speaker 1: I'm just a lot of Caucasidy, German and Irish Russian,
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Speaker 1: just the kids of Heinzweise. He's got blue eyes. It's
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Speaker 1: one of this. Yeah, that's what it is. No? What what?
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Speaker 1: What was? You're just a fan of Michael Porter Jr.
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Speaker 1: Like how did it? Like? Like, yeah, he came out
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Speaker 1: to a few of the shows a couple of years
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Speaker 1: ago as he was getting ready to go to the league,
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Speaker 1: and we would just kick it when being Denver and
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Speaker 1: then I had a line in this just like freestyle.
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Speaker 1: I was writing. I was like, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: merried men in the NBA. GOT showed these in Cities
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Speaker 1: on n DA's love keep your Hand on MPJ dyn
9:32
Speaker 1: keep his pants on n Behave. I was just like,
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Speaker 1: I like that. It's like, oh, I should just call
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Speaker 1: u MPJ freestyle. So I did, and then he just
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Speaker 1: happened to be the homie. So it's like, Yo, I
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Speaker 1: named the song after you, and he's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: promoted it, jumped on IG Live. But yeah, it kind
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Speaker 1: of just happened that way. You're obviously a big basketball guy,
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Speaker 1: are you. Are you a Knicks fan or what's your team?
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Speaker 1: So this is strange. I'm actually none of them. None
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Speaker 1: of my teams are from New York, even though I'm
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Speaker 1: from New York. Right, I'm a Utah Jazz fan. Are
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Speaker 1: you Mormon? Yes? One hundred Mormon? Uh to me in
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Speaker 1: my seventeen wives, No, shout out to the Mormons out there,
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Speaker 1: choose the right. Yeah, nah, I just I grew up
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Speaker 1: Stockton Malone. That's an interesting uh horn of sack. You
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Speaker 1: know what? Always it was be a kid growing up
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Speaker 1: the same time we grew up in to be like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, HORNI sacks stocked in? Those are my guys,
10:27
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, you got Jordan dunkan Off, yeah
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Speaker 1: right right, right right, yeah, you know what it was.
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Speaker 1: It was just like one I like their jerseys, the
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Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, Like the jerseys were fired and they have
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Speaker 1: music notes on all and then it was just like
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Speaker 1: seeing these unassuming high shorts, white dude balling out. I
10:45
Speaker 1: was just like, Wow, I have a chance. Yeah, I
10:48
Speaker 1: have a chance. Maybe I can make the league. So
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Speaker 1: seeing stocked in it was always so funny. I'll hear
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Speaker 1: these stories about John Stockton. It would just make me
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Speaker 1: crack up. So like Gary Payton would try to like
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Speaker 1: get in Stockton's head right and he's like, uh, He's
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Speaker 1: like I banged your mom last night on the court
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Speaker 1: and stocked him and just be like she's a great lady.
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Speaker 1: Just run up there, yo, Like just wouldn't let people
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Speaker 1: into Psyche's a great leg. And he's like, oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna shove a banana up here, and he's like tons
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Speaker 1: of protein and tons of potassium and just run up
11:21
Speaker 1: the cart. I'm like, Yo, this dude is just And
11:24
Speaker 1: then he would walk around for the uh uh. The Olympics,
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Speaker 1: and no one would bother him. I'm just like an
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Speaker 1: unassuming no. He always would have a little collared shirt on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: just balling out. I just always thought that was so funny. So,
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Speaker 1: so you're a Jazz fan, that's like your number one team. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm gonna keep it a buck. I
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Speaker 1: don't follow that, are you okay? You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: It's just like I'll catch a game here and there,
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Speaker 1: but it's kind of that's my childhood team, and and
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Speaker 1: so I stick with them. It's like Green Bay Packers
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Speaker 1: on my football team. But I had to do with
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Speaker 1: like Farve the Lambeau leap, cheese on your head. It
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Speaker 1: was like I was watching the game with my sister
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and they did the Lambo leap.
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Speaker 1: I was like, why they why they jumping in the crowd.
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Speaker 1: She's like, that's what they do at Lambo. I was like,
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Speaker 1: it's like a stage dive right right. I was like,
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Speaker 1: why they got cheese on their heads? Like they produced
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Speaker 1: a lot of I was like, that's it. That's my man.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have a square on you. Like, that's so
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Speaker 1: crazy to me. So Hey, shout out to the packers
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Speaker 1: and uh and to uh the the jazz of Utah.
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Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, shout out them like yeah pirates how
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Speaker 1: like their logo? So weird kid? How was uh you
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Speaker 1: do you go to Utah on tour? No? We got
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Speaker 1: an off day coming up on our way to Denver,
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Speaker 1: stop in, stop in the Salt Lake save what's up
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Speaker 1: to some of the the Mormon homies, absolutely Mormon homies
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Speaker 1: and their six wives. Uh. Yeah, we're gonna try to
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Speaker 1: get an off day. I mean, they're all gonna get
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Speaker 1: their own planets, by the way too, when they die.
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Speaker 1: Is that in the contract I grew I grew up
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Speaker 1: in Mesa, Arizona, which is the second largest Mormon population
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Speaker 1: in the world. So yeah, it's pretty wild. Yeah. Where
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Speaker 1: do you land on religion stuff these days? I'm an
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Speaker 1: atheist atheist? Yeah, you're like, Okay, I just want to
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Speaker 1: ask you because I hear people call you a Christian rapper,
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Speaker 1: and I listen to your music and obviously there's like
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Speaker 1: like stuff in there that's like godly right like lines.
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Speaker 1: But it's not like I don't look at you that way.
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Speaker 1: I just look at you as like a rapper who
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Speaker 1: happens to be a Christian as opposed to be in
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Speaker 1: like a because you know, when I grew up, man
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Speaker 1: Christian rappers corny as fuck, and I feel like La
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Speaker 1: Craze was like the first guy to come along to
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Speaker 1: be like, oh no, he's just dope. But he also,
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Speaker 1: you know, is obviously like how do you do you
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Speaker 1: consider yourself like quote unquote Christian rapper or is that
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Speaker 1: something that you embrace well for It's an interesting commo
13:43
Speaker 1: because for years I've just tried to like just be like, yo,
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Speaker 1: can I just be a rapper and be a part
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Speaker 1: of the community, because I always felt like in some
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Speaker 1: way in hip hop, to be called something before your title,
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Speaker 1: like a female rapper, a gay whatever, a Christian so
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Speaker 1: you know, gender orientation or religion, anything those that preceded title,
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Speaker 1: it always feels like it marginalizes, like right away people
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Speaker 1: already have yeah, so it's like, oh, that's a female rapper, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's all those things. So I tried to
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Speaker 1: just be like, man, I feel like I'm just a
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Speaker 1: part of hip hop, but I am a Christian, So
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Speaker 1: I would never deny being a Christian, right, just be
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Speaker 1: like that title it's a weird It's a weird conversation
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Speaker 1: because people be like, oh, yeah, we'll play you on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Then you know, on the radio, you're like, what I take.
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Speaker 1: I took a meeting one time. One of my albums,
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Speaker 1: the first Neverland, it was like doing really well on
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Speaker 1: the charts. I took a meeting at this is fifty
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Speaker 1: and fifty cent was there and so I walked by him.
14:43
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what's up? Man? He was like
14:45
Speaker 1: lifting weights and he was like, you know, didn't give
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Speaker 1: me no time. He was like yeah, yeah, what up?
14:51
Speaker 1: And then his man was like, yo, he got the
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Speaker 1: number one album on iTunes right now. And then he
14:55
Speaker 1: was like, oh, word, coming to my office right. So
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Speaker 1: I ended up hanging out with fifty for like two hours. Random.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I looked at my manager. I was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in the office. Yeah, And I went
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Speaker 1: in and he just started asking me questions because you
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Speaker 1: know at that time, like he's just a smart dude.
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Speaker 1: He wants to learn. So he's like, you had a
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Speaker 1: number one album, like what's going on? Starts asking me
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Speaker 1: all these questions. I start telling them about this. I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 1: When I first started, like, you know, ten years plus
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Speaker 1: years ago, I had some very explicitly Christian bars. I
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Speaker 1: was juiced up about my relationship with Jesus, you know,
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Speaker 1: so I think that's where that initial thing comes from,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And a lot of my
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Speaker 1: core fans share those same ideals, right, so you get that.
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Speaker 1: But over the years, just my sound, my view, the
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Speaker 1: way I approach things has evolved. And so anyways, when
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Speaker 1: I was talking with him, he was like, yeah, bro,
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Speaker 1: people are going to try to if you continue basically like,
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Speaker 1: if people continue to see you that way and just
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Speaker 1: not a part of hip hop, they're going to try
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Speaker 1: to marginalize you to the Gospel Hour on Sunday or something,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I was like, oh man,
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Speaker 1: that was never my intention. But at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, I've just let go of trying to control
16:10
Speaker 1: that narrative to a degree because it's like, you're just
16:13
Speaker 1: gonna do you and like people feel how they feel.
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Speaker 1: That's it. Man, at the end of the day, you
16:17
Speaker 1: can't really control it. And it's also it's like when
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Speaker 1: you tell people, hey, man, I don't really call myself that,
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Speaker 1: then that becomes the headline of the interview, and it
16:28
Speaker 1: just it's a circle, you know what I'm saying. So
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Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever y'all want to call it, is the
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Speaker 1: music dope. I was like, like, I think, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: if you think of Kanye when he first came out,
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Speaker 1: like you know, outside of his mixtape shit, but you know,
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Speaker 1: if we think of Jesus walks like yeah, Jesus. Like,
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Speaker 1: people didn't look at Kanye as like a Christian rapper.
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Speaker 1: They just looked at him as like, oh shit, this
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Speaker 1: is a rapper that's did a song about Jesus. This
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Speaker 1: is different. And it was hard because I think up
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Speaker 1: until that song, any songs about God and like hip
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Speaker 1: hop were always like I remember, you know, I grew
16:57
Speaker 1: up around a bunch of hardcore Christians that used to
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Speaker 1: have Channel twenty one on in Phoenix, which was like
17:02
Speaker 1: the Christian channel, and it would be the wackiest fucking music. Really,
17:06
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. There was some guy named damn it.
17:10
Speaker 1: What was the guy's name, Carmen, I don't know. There
17:13
Speaker 1: was this dude I got that's like, do you know
17:15
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about?
17:18
Speaker 1: I do? And then Kirk Franklin obviously was like, you
17:21
Speaker 1: know who kind of crossed over a bit. You know,
17:23
Speaker 1: he did gospel and then he had some he put
17:25
Speaker 1: some rap stuff in there. Yeah, Like what's it? I
17:28
Speaker 1: was going to ask you, like for you, like do
17:31
Speaker 1: you what you collabor like, like do you kind of
17:34
Speaker 1: watch who you collaborate with if they don't kind of
17:36
Speaker 1: align with like where you are? Well? Yeah, I think
17:39
Speaker 1: like as just a as a man with principles, like
17:43
Speaker 1: I want to create the way I want to create
17:45
Speaker 1: art is I have some brand filters for myself. I
17:48
Speaker 1: always want to make things that I think are incredibly dope,
17:51
Speaker 1: artistically excellent, but I also want things that are wholesome,
17:54
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, like, you don't cuss
17:56
Speaker 1: in your music, right? Nah? I don't. I saw music
18:01
Speaker 1: as like a dividing something that like divided me and
18:04
Speaker 1: my my family. And at a certain point time, you know,
18:07
Speaker 1: I get in the car on my cannabis, cit'd be
18:09
Speaker 1: broken in half for you know what I'm saying. So
18:11
Speaker 1: my mom just was like, nah, you can't play it.
18:13
Speaker 1: She just didn't, you know, when you're fourteen fifty appreciate
18:16
Speaker 1: it retarded. Yeah, she didn't she did. But now it's
18:21
Speaker 1: a great song by the way it is. It's it's
18:24
Speaker 1: not PC anymore, right, and word nometry yes and second
18:30
Speaker 1: round ko. So yeah, but now it's it's cool to
18:34
Speaker 1: see the music that I make is able to bring
18:36
Speaker 1: people together. I'll see, like at a show, a guy
18:38
Speaker 1: will be there and he'll bring his son. He's like,
18:40
Speaker 1: this is my twelve year old son. It's his first
18:42
Speaker 1: concert ever and we get to come and do this together.
18:45
Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy. So yeah, when I go to
18:48
Speaker 1: do collaborations like I've done, you know, I've had collaborations
18:53
Speaker 1: with people from all different walks of life and world views.
18:56
Speaker 1: But we just try to make sure that when we
18:57
Speaker 1: create something, we create something that your fan be aligned with.
19:00
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, there's middle ground, there's
19:02
Speaker 1: there's stuff we can create. So Fonte just jumped on
19:05
Speaker 1: the record and we did something that was great. So yeah,
19:09
Speaker 1: little brother man one of the greatest. I just had
19:11
Speaker 1: a conversation with Looke from Dreamville about because his manager's
19:15
Speaker 1: big pooh, oh my gosh, they moved. Yeah, So he's
19:21
Speaker 1: got a little brother on this album, the Dreamville album
19:23
Speaker 1: that just came out, Gold Mouth and I was like,
19:25
Speaker 1: he's from North Carolina. I was like, you realize how
19:28
Speaker 1: big of a deal that is? M He's like, bro, Honestly,
19:31
Speaker 1: I didn't really even fucking know about a Little Brother
19:33
Speaker 1: until like six years ago, and then I started working
19:36
Speaker 1: with Pooh. You know, he really hadn't like tapped into
19:39
Speaker 1: the music, but little Brother. Yeah, Fante, how'd you link
19:41
Speaker 1: up with Fante? I just hit him on Twitter? You're
19:44
Speaker 1: just a fan? Right? Yeah. I was just working on
19:48
Speaker 1: this last project and I was like, oh, Fante would
19:51
Speaker 1: sound crazy on this. Actually, Dell, my manager, was like
19:54
Speaker 1: I think he'd I was like, oh yeah, just shoot
19:57
Speaker 1: my shot. Most of a lot of the connections of
19:59
Speaker 1: relations have you've just been that and then you find
20:01
Speaker 1: out somehow that they're a fan of you. Listen, like
20:04
Speaker 1: me and John Bellian connected off of Twitter just years ago. Yo, man,
20:09
Speaker 1: I love your stuff. Yo, I love you know, I
20:12
Speaker 1: love your stuff. Let's link up, start playing basketball and
20:15
Speaker 1: now you know. So it's just yeah, you never know
20:18
Speaker 1: who's really listening or you know who's and at the
20:21
Speaker 1: moment you're you're independent, right No. So I just finished
20:24
Speaker 1: my deal with Reach Records, and basically it's just like
20:30
Speaker 1: we got to renegotiate terms, but at the moment, you're
20:33
Speaker 1: like a free agent. At technically technically, I mean, the
20:36
Speaker 1: album came out like two weeks ago, so I haven't
20:38
Speaker 1: you know, and then I went straight on tour, so
20:39
Speaker 1: I haven't even sat down to sort through any of
20:41
Speaker 1: that yet. But I guess technically you could say that
20:45
Speaker 1: the figure everything out. Yeah. Yo, It's crazy because when
20:47
Speaker 1: you have a record like coming in Hot, which is like,
20:51
Speaker 1: how long after the song came out, did it like
20:53
Speaker 1: really start to pick up on like TikTok, Because I
20:57
Speaker 1: feel like it wasn't right away right right well amongst
20:59
Speaker 1: our my core fan base, like it did really well,
21:03
Speaker 1: and then it was twenty eighteen, I did it to
21:06
Speaker 1: go on tour? Me and the Craig went on tour.
21:09
Speaker 1: Did it went on tour? It did great, and then
21:12
Speaker 1: it died off for a second, and then Steph Curry
21:16
Speaker 1: started using it and then it got used in like
21:18
Speaker 1: a under Armor commercial or something like that. Then they
21:21
Speaker 1: went to the finals. Then the finals used it, so
21:24
Speaker 1: then they had another pickup, then it died down. Then
21:27
Speaker 1: Will Smith used it to announce that he was on TikTok,
21:30
Speaker 1: and then it has the moment. So it just has
21:32
Speaker 1: all these waves of like so far influencers and then
21:35
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian post with it. Then it has another uptick.
21:37
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. We live in an era of
21:40
Speaker 1: land mines, not rocket ships, you know what I'm saying.
21:42
Speaker 1: So it's like a record could be sitting around and
21:45
Speaker 1: someone stumbles on it uses it. Oh, it's crazy, it's crazy. Yeah.
21:48
Speaker 1: You know songs from like twenty fourteen going crazy. You're like, yeah,
21:51
Speaker 1: I was thinking like that, the wiz and tid ole
21:53
Speaker 1: of side song something New was like what was that
21:56
Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen, and then like twenty twenty went razy,
22:00
Speaker 1: just went crazy like it's it's it's wild. Yeah, and
22:04
Speaker 1: you got a plaque off that record, right, Yeah, we
22:06
Speaker 1: just got another goal. It's type man. I mean for
22:10
Speaker 1: being it's an independent label and no radio play, to
22:13
Speaker 1: be able to have a couple of plaques, you know
22:15
Speaker 1: from what we do, it's a huge, man. It's dope. Man.
22:17
Speaker 1: It's really shout out to the fans who support us,
22:20
Speaker 1: like they come out for real. You know. No, that's
22:23
Speaker 1: a I think I know how hard it is to
22:25
Speaker 1: get a fucking plaque. Yeah, yeah, especially on an independent label.
22:30
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, we don't. We don't. Yeah,
22:35
Speaker 1: like we've never ever played radio ever. Yeah, I was
22:39
Speaker 1: gonna ask, did you guys ever consider like bringing on
22:41
Speaker 1: someone to help you work that record to radio. Well,
22:45
Speaker 1: so at the at the time La Craye up did
22:48
Speaker 1: like an up deal with Columbia, So he did the
22:51
Speaker 1: records with t remember radio with that, So at the
22:56
Speaker 1: time he was with them, And uh, I think that
23:01
Speaker 1: was something that was in consideration, is like up cycling
23:03
Speaker 1: through them so that they could run it. But basically,
23:06
Speaker 1: from what I understand is like nobody wants to put
23:09
Speaker 1: their neck on the line at the label for a
23:13
Speaker 1: record because if it doesn't work, then it basically cost
23:16
Speaker 1: them their job. So I just don't think there was
23:18
Speaker 1: enough people that believed in it to push the boos,
23:21
Speaker 1: cause I think it like I think that record could have,
23:22
Speaker 1: Like I think of that astronom The Ocean Song was
23:25
Speaker 1: like top ten of radio and it was just not
23:28
Speaker 1: as tight as yourself. It was like a very novelty,
23:32
Speaker 1: novelty like TikTok record. Yeah, but I'm crazy, yeah crazy,
23:37
Speaker 1: and yeah absolutely, but what's dope about what you're doing?
23:40
Speaker 1: Is like you got you had one of those, but
23:42
Speaker 1: like you have you could tour, you have like for
23:45
Speaker 1: sure built in like real following, right because we've been
23:48
Speaker 1: at it, you know before that record and so and
23:51
Speaker 1: I've had plaques before that. So it's like, you know,
23:54
Speaker 1: we we've proven that we do this. You know what
23:56
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Speaker 1: Is it your Are you you're married? Yep? Okay, so
25:10
Speaker 1: I saw you and your wife were talking about your
25:12
Speaker 1: real estate investments and what you guys do in the
25:14
Speaker 1: real estate gap. Ye. So kind of shed some light
25:17
Speaker 1: on that because the real estate world right now is crazy.
25:20
Speaker 1: Everything's super high. So we've been in New York City
25:24
Speaker 1: for the last thirteen years. I grew up in Syracuse,
25:27
Speaker 1: upstate New York. Then I went to New York City
25:29
Speaker 1: and then we just right before the pandemic, we moved
25:32
Speaker 1: down to Atlanta. The label was down there, cost of
25:36
Speaker 1: lit living was quality of life, everything you know, it
25:40
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm out. I couldn't do another New
25:42
Speaker 1: York Winner. Bro. I was just my my triple fat
25:45
Speaker 1: goose had seen enough. Yeah. So I we went down
25:49
Speaker 1: there and we bought our first property, and then we
25:52
Speaker 1: just the agent. We connected Jay Rich. He just like
25:56
Speaker 1: he knows all of Atlanta and he ends up being
25:59
Speaker 1: a friend and a and all that. So he's just
26:02
Speaker 1: been kind of steering us and we started investing in
26:04
Speaker 1: this neighborhood that's just going crazy. And so we just
26:08
Speaker 1: this past week we picked up our fourth property. Wow.
26:11
Speaker 1: Two years I was on we were on tour and
26:14
Speaker 1: I had to like stop off at a notary and
26:16
Speaker 1: sign and uh, it's funny, man, because like that same day,
26:20
Speaker 1: I had a friend pop out. He's from Syracuse, he
26:24
Speaker 1: lived in Orland. We popped out ox and he was like, yo,
26:27
Speaker 1: when you're gonna when you're gonna pop out with something,
26:30
Speaker 1: He was like, when you gonna post all out, like
26:33
Speaker 1: let your nuts say, you know, say like get a chain,
26:35
Speaker 1: get a car. I was like, get over the property.
26:37
Speaker 1: I'm buying real estate. He was like, oh, you know,
26:41
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was like, dang, I really don't I
26:45
Speaker 1: really don't be pulling out the flex. We just kind
26:47
Speaker 1: of investing in what the future looks like for us,
26:50
Speaker 1: because in my mind, you know, this game of music
26:53
Speaker 1: is very similar to sports. It's like you can have
26:56
Speaker 1: like a little window where you can go crazy, and
26:58
Speaker 1: then after that people are like, what's new, What's next.
27:01
Speaker 1: So it's dope that I've been able to continue to
27:04
Speaker 1: do what I do and and have a fan base
27:06
Speaker 1: and stuff still keeps growing. But I just kind of
27:09
Speaker 1: want to plan for if I ever want to not
27:12
Speaker 1: have to go on tour or you know what I'm saying,
27:14
Speaker 1: say yes to shows I don't want to know. I mean, look,
27:17
Speaker 1: there's artists out whose lifeline is literally touring, you know,
27:20
Speaker 1: like like it's it's it's without the live shows, Like
27:24
Speaker 1: that's that's what they depend on the pay their bills, right,
27:27
Speaker 1: some wrap to pay the bill. Yeah, I don't. I
27:29
Speaker 1: don't want to be in that position. And I want
27:31
Speaker 1: to have kids eventually, you know what I'm saying. Me
27:33
Speaker 1: and my wife and we like, man, I still want
27:35
Speaker 1: to be running around like this, you know what I'm saying.
27:38
Speaker 1: I think like there's like independent rappers without saying names,
27:41
Speaker 1: but like their tour all year long, every year it's
27:44
Speaker 1: a tour and it's like they're dope, incredible artists, but
27:47
Speaker 1: it's like fuck, like yeah, fifty five dates every year,
27:52
Speaker 1: like half your life is on the road, right, That's right.
27:56
Speaker 1: It's like I couldn't imagine doing that too. Yeah. Yeah,
27:59
Speaker 1: it just depends on what you value, you know what
28:01
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like, for me, time is the biggest thing.
28:03
Speaker 1: So if I can invest in real estate, our game
28:06
Speaker 1: plan is to basically have enough properties that generate passive
28:09
Speaker 1: income for us that anything music related is just And
28:13
Speaker 1: so it's like the lifestyles paid for. We got time back.
28:15
Speaker 1: We can do what we want. And you know, I
28:17
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the next phase is you're
28:20
Speaker 1: just you're just like having like a tenants or you're
28:23
Speaker 1: doing the airbnb thing or yeah. So we did airbnb
28:26
Speaker 1: for a little bit, and then the pandemic hit, so
28:28
Speaker 1: that it was like, I know, I was at old body,
28:30
Speaker 1: I was at an Airbnb in Atlanta for sure, for
28:31
Speaker 1: like a week really Yeah, in January, it was cool
28:34
Speaker 1: as shit. Yeah, we had we had to be running
28:37
Speaker 1: and it's started to pick up, was going great, and
28:39
Speaker 1: then the pandemic hit and nobody was traveling, so then
28:41
Speaker 1: we had to turn it into long form rental or whatever.
28:44
Speaker 1: And so that's been the game plan. Man, just like
28:46
Speaker 1: rentals right now because the mortgage is paid, the cash flows,
28:50
Speaker 1: you know, So that's for those watching. Cash flow is
28:53
Speaker 1: anything over what you what your cost is, what your
28:56
Speaker 1: cost is, and so the goal for us is just
28:59
Speaker 1: have that. And right now the interest rate is killer, right,
29:02
Speaker 1: so very very good interest rates. So it helps with
29:04
Speaker 1: your cash flow because your payments going to be less. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, man,
29:09
Speaker 1: we just invest in many. I was gonna say, any
29:11
Speaker 1: advice you'ld give for someone who's watching this that wants
29:13
Speaker 1: to get into the real estate shit, because I do
29:14
Speaker 1: feel like it's like a weird time where the properties
29:17
Speaker 1: cost more than ever, but the interest rates are lower
29:19
Speaker 1: than ever. So it's like it's like a do I
29:22
Speaker 1: get it? Now? Do I wait? Man? I could talk
29:24
Speaker 1: about real estate stuff forever, but basically I would start
29:27
Speaker 1: with reading books. There's this a platform called Bigger Pockets.
29:31
Speaker 1: My wife loves it. She goes on there. Basically anything
29:36
Speaker 1: you can think of, like any topic. They've tackled it,
29:38
Speaker 1: they've done books on it, they've done podcasts all that. Uh,
29:42
Speaker 1: that's a great start for me. I just started with
29:44
Speaker 1: rich Dad, Poor Dad, which was like, yeah, I love
29:47
Speaker 1: I read that shit in high school. Yeah, it was
29:49
Speaker 1: just a change in my mindset and help me understand
29:51
Speaker 1: what the difference between assets and liabilities were. Right, Like cars,
29:55
Speaker 1: even though they're dope, they're depreciating. Liabilities they cost your
29:58
Speaker 1: money everybody where assets are things that grow in value.
30:02
Speaker 1: So I make a song, I put it out right,
30:05
Speaker 1: it's while I'm sleeping. It's generating money while I'm sleeping.
30:08
Speaker 1: My car is costing me money, right, because it's going
30:11
Speaker 1: down to that. So trying to figure out how to
30:14
Speaker 1: develop more assets, which is one of the reasons we moved,
30:16
Speaker 1: start buying property, start investing in things that will grow.
30:20
Speaker 1: So that was like a starter kit for my mentality.
30:23
Speaker 1: Then it was you know, other books, and so I
30:25
Speaker 1: would say start there too. For real estate stuff, it's
30:31
Speaker 1: like this. My wife has a really good example. She says,
30:35
Speaker 1: if you want to buy property, there's basically a scale
30:38
Speaker 1: of comfort and cost. So if the more willing you
30:43
Speaker 1: are to be uncomfortable, the better the price. Right, So
30:46
Speaker 1: that's the sliding scale, and so you're like, oh, I
30:50
Speaker 1: want to get a really well priced, you know property.
30:53
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, you might be in the hood
30:55
Speaker 1: for three years, you know what I'm saying. Or you're like, no,
30:57
Speaker 1: I want to live in the best eyes. It's going
30:59
Speaker 1: to cost you small spot that's right, or a small
31:01
Speaker 1: spot or whatever it is. So you have to weigh
31:04
Speaker 1: that out. And for me and my wife it was like, yo,
31:07
Speaker 1: we down, we down to thug it out for a
31:10
Speaker 1: couple of years and really just like put our head
31:12
Speaker 1: down and buy property and you know, not you know,
31:16
Speaker 1: not ball out, you know what I'm saying. So we
31:19
Speaker 1: did that and it's been incredible for us. So that
31:22
Speaker 1: sliding scale I help you determine what you want to
31:24
Speaker 1: do too, is like if you can, if you know
31:26
Speaker 1: how to rehab or like fix these joints up, or
31:28
Speaker 1: you have people, you know, contractors, that's really the end
31:32
Speaker 1: is you got to buy a crappy property and fix it,
31:34
Speaker 1: fix it up, and that's how you get good prices,
31:36
Speaker 1: and that's how you add value fire, you know, and
31:38
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready to go. It's like when deals
31:41
Speaker 1: come across the table, how's your guys's credit scores? Fire?
31:45
Speaker 1: It's perfect, perfect, crazy. I got like over eight hundred
31:48
Speaker 1: or something like. Was that something that's been consistent for
31:51
Speaker 1: you or did you like have to handle some shit
31:53
Speaker 1: to get it up to that? Bro? You know what,
31:55
Speaker 1: I'm I'm weird, but I've just been good with money,
31:57
Speaker 1: like since I was young. So when I was in
31:59
Speaker 1: my twenties, I was I was doing these shows, i
32:01
Speaker 1: was selling merch online doing I'm just kind of entrepreneurial.
32:05
Speaker 1: And I had like, I take the money I make.
32:09
Speaker 1: I pull up these spreadsheets on Google and I just
32:12
Speaker 1: be like, all right, this money I'm gonna give here,
32:14
Speaker 1: this is for saving. I even created a marriage account
32:18
Speaker 1: when I was single. It's crazy. I'd take a little
32:21
Speaker 1: slice of every check and I just like put some
32:23
Speaker 1: in there. Couldn't have to get married one because I
32:24
Speaker 1: was like, one day, I want to get married and
32:26
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait to hear live or a
32:28
Speaker 1: ring or whatever. And I was just like, yo, I
32:30
Speaker 1: don't want to be I don't want to be out
32:32
Speaker 1: here like oh now that I'm ready to go. So
32:35
Speaker 1: you're a single man just budgeting shit out on Google spreadsheets. Crazy.
32:39
Speaker 1: I don't even know where this came from. Bro. I
32:41
Speaker 1: just was responsible young man. So by the time I
32:44
Speaker 1: met the girl. I was ready to get married. I
32:45
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I got twenty grand saved so I
32:48
Speaker 1: can go get this ring or whatever I need to do.
32:50
Speaker 1: I was just ready to go. You're a fucking special guy. Man. Weird. Yeah,
32:54
Speaker 1: very strange, but you know it served me well, no,
32:57
Speaker 1: for sure. Why do you think it is like that
32:59
Speaker 1: what you're doing and the success you've had somehow flies
33:03
Speaker 1: under the radar in hip hop because I think of
33:06
Speaker 1: like people like Russ or even like a guy like
33:08
Speaker 1: Tech nine who's had a lot of independent success to
33:10
Speaker 1: like like at one point in time has gotten a
33:13
Speaker 1: lot of acknowledgment by like the Gaatekeepers, the hip whatever
33:17
Speaker 1: the fuck right, the cur Raiders or whatever you want
33:19
Speaker 1: to call them, teastmakers. Somehow you're still kind of flying
33:22
Speaker 1: under the radar a bit as far as like the
33:24
Speaker 1: amount of success you've had, the touring you're able to do,
33:26
Speaker 1: the RIAA certifications you have, right, Like, do you feel
33:30
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like what do you what do
33:32
Speaker 1: you attribute to that? Yeah? Well, you know, and my
33:35
Speaker 1: mentality is like the first thing I'm gonna start with
33:37
Speaker 1: is it's me right, Like I'm gonna take responsibility because
33:40
Speaker 1: I don't like the I could blame it on other people.
33:43
Speaker 1: I want to be like, all right, maybe I just
33:44
Speaker 1: haven't made the records, you know what I'm saying, or
33:46
Speaker 1: made the hits. Like so I need to keep my
33:49
Speaker 1: my my pen sharp, my craft tight, and keep like
33:52
Speaker 1: my foot on the gas. But I feel like it's
33:55
Speaker 1: not a matter of skill. It's a matter of like
33:58
Speaker 1: maybe I just have been unrecognized, you know what I'm saying,
34:00
Speaker 1: and like my time will either come or I just
34:03
Speaker 1: have gone on recognized. But it doesn't mean that the
34:05
Speaker 1: talent isn't well and also doesn't mean you ain't making
34:07
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Sure, sure, so you know there's that.
34:12
Speaker 1: But I you know, sometimes I wonder I ask myself
34:14
Speaker 1: these things. I was like, oh, do you know, is
34:16
Speaker 1: it a co sign thing? Like do you need just
34:18
Speaker 1: somebody crazy be like that's the one. Or do you
34:21
Speaker 1: need just more records? You know? Do you need different infrastructure?
34:26
Speaker 1: I don't know. Those are all the things that That's
34:28
Speaker 1: why they call it the game, right like it is
34:30
Speaker 1: a game. You gotta figure out how to do this.
34:33
Speaker 1: I think right now, attention is kind of a currency,
34:37
Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm very good for TV because
34:41
Speaker 1: you know, I like, I don't start beef with nobody yet.
34:44
Speaker 1: You know, I don't be out here talking crazy. I'm
34:46
Speaker 1: just like making good music. But we're trying to figure out,
34:50
Speaker 1: you know, how to move next, like to make sure
34:53
Speaker 1: that we get the recognition I think the music deserves.
34:55
Speaker 1: But I don't know, what do you think? I don't know, man,
34:58
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, I do think that the
35:02
Speaker 1: Christian rapper shit has probably something to do with it,
35:04
Speaker 1: just that being like that's yeah, that's the things people
35:07
Speaker 1: lead with. And then they're like, that ain't from me,
35:09
Speaker 1: like shout out to our good friend Amelia Rojas, Like
35:11
Speaker 1: when he text me about you, he's like, well he
35:13
Speaker 1: sent me a voice note. So I hate those people,
35:17
Speaker 1: by the way, and they like it's going to take
35:19
Speaker 1: up my whole phone for second loth yo cav yo Yo,
35:24
Speaker 1: he's a Christian. I'm like, I know who he is. Bro.
35:26
Speaker 1: That's that DMD you earlier this year. I don't know
35:28
Speaker 1: if you saw it. Really yeah, I hit you like
35:29
Speaker 1: when you come into LA. I think I hit you
35:31
Speaker 1: in like February this year. Check a DMS but who knew?
35:35
Speaker 1: All right? Okay, but anyway, but no I think that
35:39
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, like that is like a weird like
35:42
Speaker 1: like you said, man, anytime you have that like thing
35:45
Speaker 1: before rapper, yeah right, it's like it's just people already
35:49
Speaker 1: have their mind made up. Yeah. And for whatever reason,
35:53
Speaker 1: I also think like, well, if you don't want to
35:55
Speaker 1: give it a chance, like if someone told me right
35:57
Speaker 1: now and like this is just an example, like yo,
35:59
Speaker 1: check out this Muslim rapper, right, I'd be like, oh word,
36:03
Speaker 1: I'll get to it, you know, Like it wouldn't be
36:06
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like jumping on it if somebody like, Yo,
36:07
Speaker 1: this kid's dope, check them out, because I think, like,
36:10
Speaker 1: and nothing against Muslims at all. It's just like, oh,
36:13
Speaker 1: I'm that's not the first thing I'm gonna connect with,
36:16
Speaker 1: right right, And I think that's kind of the same thing, right,
36:17
Speaker 1: But there's mad Muslim rappers right over like everybody, so
36:21
Speaker 1: you like, if you didn't lead with that, maybe it
36:24
Speaker 1: would have. Yeah. I think that. I think that that's
36:26
Speaker 1: something because like I also think too, like just the
36:28
Speaker 1: whole for whatever reason, I don't know, man, you know,
36:33
Speaker 1: do you feel like being a Christian has become Like
36:37
Speaker 1: when I grew up, I felt like being religious and
36:39
Speaker 1: being godly was like in does that make sense? Like
36:43
Speaker 1: it was, like what made you think that? Maybe because
36:45
Speaker 1: it's who I grew up around. I grew up around.
36:47
Speaker 1: You know, my best friend Rams is like his whole
36:48
Speaker 1: family was like a hardcore Christian. So like maybe like
36:51
Speaker 1: in my head, like that was like more widely accepted
36:54
Speaker 1: as to where I feel like today, like being like
36:57
Speaker 1: super religious people like and I'm saying I feel this way,
37:00
Speaker 1: but I just mean in general, like I don't think
37:02
Speaker 1: it's like commercially as accepted as it used to be.
37:04
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel like that's the case. I
37:06
Speaker 1: don't know. I almost feel like the opposite. I don't know,
37:09
Speaker 1: like because when I look at I don't know when
37:13
Speaker 1: I look at artists right now, like so many of
37:15
Speaker 1: them are blatantly and openly Christian. So Kanye justin Bieber,
37:22
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you hear, I mean
37:23
Speaker 1: DMX even growing up was always like doing but he
37:26
Speaker 1: was saying the prayers right, he was doing. Man, he
37:29
Speaker 1: was talking about fucking the dead body as well. Yeah, yeah,
37:31
Speaker 1: I'm the same album. I'm the same album Blood on
37:35
Speaker 1: his dick because he sucked the course. I'm a nasty,
37:38
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I don't know, man,
37:41
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's almost it's almost more widely
37:44
Speaker 1: accepted in my mind through music chants, you know what
37:48
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, all these artists like to be open.
37:51
Speaker 1: So but in my head, I'm like, Okay, well, Kanye
37:53
Speaker 1: does Jesus King and it's probably his least successful album ever. Yeah.
37:57
Speaker 1: By the way, what'd you think of that Jesus King? Yeah?
38:00
Speaker 1: So when I first heard it, I was like, ah,
38:02
Speaker 1: it's cool. And then I went and I I played
38:05
Speaker 1: it and I started talking everybody around breakfast. I was like, yeah,
38:08
Speaker 1: but this part was dope. The production is an amazing
38:11
Speaker 1: part was dope. But the opening vocals on this and
38:14
Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, no, this project's dope. Right. So,
38:17
Speaker 1: once I started breaking down all the things I liked about,
38:19
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, at the end of
38:20
Speaker 1: the day, I'm just a Kanye stand me too, have
38:23
Speaker 1: everything he knows, and no matter what, it's always going
38:27
Speaker 1: to be a little left of center, he's gonna do
38:29
Speaker 1: something different. He's gonna push the envelopes and do cool production.
38:32
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm a fan, so I'm just here.
38:34
Speaker 1: Kanye is my favorite artist ever. Now it's my favorite rapper.
38:37
Speaker 1: But Kanye to me, yeah, that makes sense, best discography ever,
38:40
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But always always he always whenever direction
38:45
Speaker 1: you're going, he jerks the wheel and sends you on
38:47
Speaker 1: a ride. What's your favorite Kanye album, oh Man, Probably
38:54
Speaker 1: probably Dark Twisted Fantasy. I mean that's the that's the
38:57
Speaker 1: one's just like, I think that's the best album. I
39:00
Speaker 1: think my favorite probably Late Registration. But his best album
39:02
Speaker 1: is Stark Twis the Fantasy. Yeah. I like Graduation a
39:05
Speaker 1: lot too. You know, I'm not as high on Graduation
39:08
Speaker 1: as everyone else. And I like the weird, like the
39:10
Speaker 1: ones off there that people sleep. I like Barry Bonds.
39:12
Speaker 1: I also like uh, I don't like Breathe. That's his
39:17
Speaker 1: worst song. But you know what, he don't have many
39:22
Speaker 1: of those, like Drunken Hot Girls and like RoboCop, the
39:24
Speaker 1: only like joints in his discography that I'm like, I
39:28
Speaker 1: could do without those. That's it. Everything else, I'm like,
39:31
Speaker 1: these are good songs. I agree, even like now there
39:34
Speaker 1: was something on Ya that I did not like, But
39:36
Speaker 1: I think ghost Town is one of the best Kanye
39:38
Speaker 1: songs ever. So decried the ghost Town. Just the fact
39:41
Speaker 1: that ghost Town's on ye puts it. Hey, Kitsey Ghost
39:45
Speaker 1: to me might be a top five Kanye project ever. Really,
39:47
Speaker 1: Kitsy Ghost is so fucking perfect to me. I take
39:50
Speaker 1: Kitsy Ghost or Wash the Throne every day of the week,
39:53
Speaker 1: no questions. Sorry, I will take Kittsy Ghosts over Watch
39:57
Speaker 1: the Throne one thousand percent. You're sick. I'm not a chance, bro,
40:02
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna let that slide
40:05
Speaker 1: man personally. For me, I just think I think Watching
40:09
Speaker 1: the Throne had some some low points. I was not
40:12
Speaker 1: a fan of of of the first record. Was it
40:15
Speaker 1: lift Off? Oh? With wasn't crazy about that? Bro, We
40:19
Speaker 1: this ain't live right. I can take a piss, Yeah,
40:21
Speaker 1: go take a piss, Go take get your piss on, buddy.
40:23
Speaker 1: All right, we're back like ten minutes, he was saying.
40:25
Speaker 1: Before that. We know we were just talking about how
40:27
Speaker 1: Watch the Throne is an inferior album to kids. He ghost,
40:30
Speaker 1: You're psychotic? Just no church in the wild alone. Oh no,
40:34
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Yeah. Did you go to the Wash the
40:38
Speaker 1: Throne Tour? No? I went to What I Do Jesus
40:44
Speaker 1: Jesus Tour? Is crazy with the Mountain the Mountain. Yeah,
40:46
Speaker 1: so I did that. I saw Life of Pablo. That's
40:50
Speaker 1: the only Kanye tour I didn't go to because he
40:52
Speaker 1: ended up canceling the date I was supposed to go.
40:54
Speaker 1: I was gonna fly to Denver to see him, but
40:56
Speaker 1: he had that meltdown and then cancel the rest of
40:58
Speaker 1: the tour. I was like looking forward to, like standing
41:01
Speaker 1: under Man. It was, you know, so dope about that
41:04
Speaker 1: Kanye show was He's He's part of the show. But
41:08
Speaker 1: then watching everyone else underneath them dancing and going crazy,
41:12
Speaker 1: that's like part of the show too. So it's an
41:14
Speaker 1: inception performance because you don't know what to watch. Like
41:18
Speaker 1: the people watching him is part of it. So, yeah,
41:22
Speaker 1: you this new video you you sent me the link
41:25
Speaker 1: for I watched it yesterday. First of all, great idea.
41:29
Speaker 1: Thanks recreating all the hippo classic hip hop covers. Yeah,
41:33
Speaker 1: you caught all of them. I caught every single one single.
41:35
Speaker 1: See a Public Enemy, ren DMC, Capital Punishment, DMX fifty
41:39
Speaker 1: all Eyes on Me, Kanye, there's some others on this Wayne. Yeah. Cardiff.
41:47
Speaker 1: Cardiff was a mad villainy. Yeah, that's you know what
41:50
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I wanted to set that up
41:51
Speaker 1: in a way so like you know, you could do
41:54
Speaker 1: like a you get like the timeframe of when it
41:57
Speaker 1: pops up to guess what it is and see what
41:59
Speaker 1: people score. No, it was amazing, Ye I got it.
42:01
Speaker 1: I was one thousand percent for sure, but incredible video.
42:06
Speaker 1: Your visuals in general are always very very on point,
42:09
Speaker 1: Like is that you is that your directors? Yeah, it's
42:14
Speaker 1: me Dell Dell just Moustafa, He's part of my creative team.
42:19
Speaker 1: And then I just got a handful of people that
42:21
Speaker 1: we use, so shout out Dust Brand Films. He did
42:23
Speaker 1: that video. He's a hip hop head, so he was
42:26
Speaker 1: like the perfect dude do it. But yeah, you know,
42:29
Speaker 1: it's like I don't have just like one person I
42:32
Speaker 1: create all my videos with. It's kind of like, you know,
42:35
Speaker 1: we pulling it together depending on whose that video's crazy man.
42:39
Speaker 1: And it was like flawlessly executed, thank you. All those
42:42
Speaker 1: were done in camera, so there was very little post effects,
42:46
Speaker 1: so every time it would pan into something, it'd be
42:48
Speaker 1: a physical set that was built. Wow. So you know,
42:52
Speaker 1: like even on Mad Villainy, like that's the real mass
42:54
Speaker 1: and behind you know, there's that little square in the
42:56
Speaker 1: corner that's red. That was just posit, like a red
42:59
Speaker 1: piece of square posted up in the back to make
43:02
Speaker 1: it look like so to pull off the eminem show ship, like,
43:08
Speaker 1: do you have to find a red curtain somewhere? Yeah,
43:10
Speaker 1: So we went to like a middle school and they
43:12
Speaker 1: let us use their auditorium and then there was a
43:14
Speaker 1: red curtain and we had to use their spotlight and
43:17
Speaker 1: line everything up and then put little gold leafing across
43:20
Speaker 1: the bottom of the curtain to make it look like
43:23
Speaker 1: that cover. So then you know, hour it was like
43:26
Speaker 1: an hour of just like slide back and then go
43:29
Speaker 1: to the level, you know, and we were trying to
43:31
Speaker 1: make them as exact as possible. Uh, your album just
43:35
Speaker 1: came out. Uh the tours is it's almost over right. Yeah,
43:38
Speaker 1: we got like four more dates so it's we got
43:41
Speaker 1: the Fonda tonight, we got uh San Francisco, then we
43:45
Speaker 1: got Denver. So that's it. That is. I feel like
43:48
Speaker 1: Denver's everyone's best concert market for some reason. I don't
43:51
Speaker 1: know what it is about Denver. Denver motherfuckers love to
43:54
Speaker 1: go to concerts in Denver. I don't know what. There's
43:56
Speaker 1: people who sell out the Red Rocks that won't do
43:58
Speaker 1: a thousand tickets in LA, that's right, But they sell
44:01
Speaker 1: out the fucking Red Rocks. Bro I sell out Denver
44:04
Speaker 1: every time I play there, just fanatics there. I always
44:07
Speaker 1: say Denver's like probably the best concert like as far
44:10
Speaker 1: as like people going to spending money on live shows. Yes,
44:13
Speaker 1: every artist I've ever talked to the like Yo, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver.
44:17
Speaker 1: I think Denver might be the highest sollid show on
44:19
Speaker 1: this whole tour. Killing Yeah, Denver's a movie shot out Denver.
44:24
Speaker 1: I can't breathe when I'm there. But are you a smoker? Nah?
44:29
Speaker 1: No smoking? Now I get anxiety. I like panic attacks
44:33
Speaker 1: just is bad you've partaken any psychedelics or anything, or
44:37
Speaker 1: you're just pretty straight at man, you know what it is.
44:39
Speaker 1: I just like my life, that's fair. I just like
44:42
Speaker 1: I'm just being sober. Is so dope to me that
44:45
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like shit's going great for me. You know,
44:47
Speaker 1: just things are dope. I don't ever feel the need
44:49
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what, I really want to
44:51
Speaker 1: get in coherent right now, like nothing. You know, I
44:53
Speaker 1: go to therapy too. I'd be dealing with my demons
44:58
Speaker 1: and I think some of that is me that like, yo,
45:01
Speaker 1: I just want to drink water and go for a job.
45:02
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm no good for TV, bro.
45:05
Speaker 1: I just be I. You know what I'm saying. I'm like,
45:06
Speaker 1: I want to I want to work out and eat healthy.
45:08
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like what's your dial? Like
45:11
Speaker 1: it's pretty you know, we try to we out here
45:14
Speaker 1: trying to live right, trying to live righteous. But you know,
45:18
Speaker 1: from time to time we do partake in the fried chicken.
45:22
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? You got roscos? I mean
45:23
Speaker 1: you're a Italian, right, so like Italian food is amazing. Yeah,
45:27
Speaker 1: it's also probably the worst food for you, because it's
45:30
Speaker 1: just that's the thing that pasta. I'm a foodie. Basically,
45:33
Speaker 1: the way that I calculate my day is like, all right,
45:36
Speaker 1: if I go work out, then I can have this
45:38
Speaker 1: nonsense at night, you know what I'm saying. So I
45:41
Speaker 1: basically I just be trying to budget. You're just kind
45:43
Speaker 1: of like, yo, if I can just have a wash
45:45
Speaker 1: every day, that's it. If I will just break even,
45:48
Speaker 1: that's it. So you know, we're just trying to eat
45:51
Speaker 1: wherever there's real good food. And I'm not picky. I'll
45:54
Speaker 1: try I'll try something, you know what I'm saying, something new.
45:57
Speaker 1: You ever had rattlesneak? I haven't. I haven't had, but
46:01
Speaker 1: I would try it. Yeah, in Arizona, that's like normal.
46:05
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not like you go to fucking
46:08
Speaker 1: every there's like rattlesnake Tuesdays. I just have that, but
46:11
Speaker 1: I've had it. It's not bad. Rattlesnake's not bad. Alligators fire.
46:16
Speaker 1: I just had some gator in Florida. Gator bites, golder
46:21
Speaker 1: bites are fire. I had some kangaroo in Australia. Wow,
46:25
Speaker 1: not dope, not good. Don't do it. I wouldn't either. Yeah,
46:28
Speaker 1: I mean I did it just but it's not like
46:31
Speaker 1: kangaroos are too cute to eat. What's the joint out here?
46:33
Speaker 1: I got to hit in La. I don't even know, man,
46:36
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, just be in and out and all
46:38
Speaker 1: the time. That's it. Nah. Dave's Hot Chicken is like
46:43
Speaker 1: basic bit ship. Like there's a Dave's Hot Chicken up
46:45
Speaker 1: the street. Go get a hot chicken. Sandwich is fucking amazing, amazing, amazing.
46:52
Speaker 1: The main like place everyone goes to Nobu, No that's
46:57
Speaker 1: Portos in Burbank is the highest rated restaurant on Yelp,
47:02
Speaker 1: at least it was for really time. And then there's
47:04
Speaker 1: another place called The Morrison that is top ten rated
47:10
Speaker 1: burger in the country. Really, The Morrison. Portos is a bakery,
47:14
Speaker 1: pet pastries, desserts and Cuban food. It's like two minutes
47:19
Speaker 1: from here. It's smacking like literally on my ig. Every
47:24
Speaker 1: city I pop into, I'm like, yo, I'm in your city.
47:26
Speaker 1: What's the food recommendations? And you know that's it. Man.
47:29
Speaker 1: We went to Japan last right before the pandemic did
47:33
Speaker 1: a Ramen tour. I mean, well, yeah, Romen's the best.
47:35
Speaker 1: We out here wilding for food there it is. Man, Well, listen,
47:37
Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up my brother. I appreciates you. Yes,
47:40
Speaker 1: Man's some Dave's hot after this, some Dave's hot.