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Ride-or-Die Friendships: Navigating Bonds, Loyalty, and Life's Milestones · All About The Joy

• 0:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Hey everyone, welcome to the Private Lounge.
• 0:07
  Carmen Lezeth: All about the joy with Cynthia, Rick, Mario and Alma and myself.
• 0:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi, everyone.
• 0:14
  Maurio Dawson: Hello, hello.
• 0:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah.
• 0:16
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm really excited because we're doing this kind of closed, private Lounge thing and it's so much fun.
• 0:20
  Carmen Lezeth: And today we're going to talk about my favorite subject friendships.
• 0:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Hello, I sent you all kind of the little syllabus.
• 0:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, no, I'm just kidding, but I'll tell you what happened this week that kind of spurred this on.
• 0:38
  Carmen Lezeth: There were a couple things.
• 0:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia sent me an Instagram.
• 0:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I think I sent it to all of you so you could see it.
• 0:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I think all of you had posted on it and had sent it to me before.
• 0:44
  Carmen Lezeth: But one of the things that happened was I was with a client we're in this, it was a three-person meeting thing and I got a text message from one of my good friends.
• 0:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Her father died and I have a different ring for all my good friends None of you, but no, I'm just kidding.
• 1:02
  Maurio Dawson: There's not a day on it all.
• 1:04
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, so we were in the middle.
• 1:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: We need the warning sign.
• 1:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I have a story about that, but we'll wait.
• 1:08
  Carmen Lezeth: But we were in the middle of this deep conversation it was a lawyer, one of my other clients, whatever and I turned around and I was like, excuse me, I need to step out of this meeting.
• 1:18
  Carmen Lezeth: It wasn't even a question, no-transcript.
• 1:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I mean, like the video I sent you.
• 1:53
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I sent it to everyone.
• 1:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Maybe describe the video, because maybe describe the video.
• 1:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: The video was the actual scene from I believe it was the Town.
• 2:01
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I believe it was the movie from, I believe it was the Town, I believe it was the movie with Ben Affleck.
• 2:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And he walks in and he's talking to Jeremy Renner and he's like we're about to do some bad things and hurt some people, but don't ask me questions.
• 2:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And the other one's just like okay, whose car are we taking?
• 2:19
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Like that's a friendship no questions nothing, it's like all right.
• 2:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Where are we going?
• 2:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Let's go.
• 2:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Friendship no questions nothing, it's like all right, where are we going?
• 2:28
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Let's go.
• 2:28
  Carmen Lezeth: That's the type of friendship I feel like.
• 2:30
  Carmen Lezeth: That's your ride or die person.
• 2:32
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, we had this conversation before, remember we had all these people were on or whatever, and they were talking about ride or die and I was confused what ride or die means?
• 2:43
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I'm like my best friend is my best friend.
• 2:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Ride or die is not even a question.
• 2:45
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 2:45
  Carmen Lezeth: But, rick, what were you thinking about?
• 2:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Kind of that video or kind of what?
• 2:47
  Rick Costa: friendship means to you.
• 2:47
  Rick Costa: Yeah, like my best friend now.
• 2:49
  Rick Costa: When I was in an accident he lives like maybe 30 minutes away.
• 2:53
  Rick Costa: I called him.
• 2:54
  Rick Costa: I said I got into an accident, he was there in 20 minutes.
• 2:56
  Rick Costa: I'm like, ooh, you drove fast, like for real, like ride or die, like anything.
• 3:01
  Rick Costa: Anytime I need anything, that boy's always there.
• 3:03
  Rick Costa: Flat tire one time he, because the car replaced, car repair place is like maybe a couple of blocks, but I live at the top.
• 3:12
  Rick Costa: I live at the top of a hill.
• 3:14
  Rick Costa: I was like I ain't gonna call a tow truck just to go a couple blocks.
• 3:18
  Rick Costa: It seems silly.
• 3:19
  Rick Costa: So he came again half boom.
• 3:22
  Rick Costa: That point was more than half an hour and we pushed it because I was too true to get a tow truck twice okay, we need to get you triple A, but that's a whole other conversation.
• 3:34
  Carmen Lezeth: And if triple A wants to sponsor us, we're available for that.
• 3:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Triple A is free unless you have the premium no, no, but that's a good validation of a great friend.
• 3:47
  Carmen Lezeth: They'll come and help you do something so you don't have to spend like moving costs.
• 3:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Like whenever I have to move, I'm like, let's see who my friends is.
• 3:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Now that I've gotten older, though, I don't do that to my friends, right, because we're all like I don't do that to my friends, but back in the day, that was the test who gonna?
• 4:02
  Carmen Lezeth: come and help me and move Mario Alma thought process.
• 4:06
  Maurio Dawson: As far as like all of my friends have been like friends now for probably 35, 40 years, like all of my, like my best friend she's Marissa's godmother and Alma's best friend is also Marissa's godmother They've been like if we call them for anything, they're just dropping everything and they're coming.
• 4:26
  Maurio Dawson: Friendship that's what a writer guy is.
• 4:29
  Maurio Dawson: I have a few people who will pull up.
• 4:30
  Maurio Dawson: I have another friend on the thug side.
• 4:33
  Maurio Dawson: If I need somebody handled, I know who to call.
• 4:37
  Maurio Dawson: Like the movie I do I know who to call?
• 4:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait a second.
• 4:45
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Go ahead Alma.
• 4:46
  Alma Dawson: So same, so same.
• 4:48
  Alma Dawson: I have, I mean, I can count my really good friends on one hand, have a lot of acquaintances, but uh, my very best friend, we've been best friends since we were 12, um, and it's never been.
• 5:04
  Alma Dawson: You know, no matter how long we go without speaking or anything that's happening in our lives, we always pick up right where no time has passed, and there's been a few times where we have been connected for, you know, a span of time, but it's never diminished the bond or the love.
• 5:24
  Alma Dawson: It's always been that way between us.
• 5:28
  Alma Dawson: I love her Really.
• 5:34
  Alma Dawson: She's my sister.
• 5:34
  Carmen Lezeth: She's not my best friend, she's my sister.
• 5:35
  Carmen Lezeth: That's my chosen family.
• 5:35
  Carmen Lezeth: It's funny because my friends from when I was in grammar school who were my best friends, or when I danced or whatever it's so funny because for me, friendships have changed over the years, like those were my good friends and they're still on Facebook or whatever, but I don't know if I would say they're my best friends anymore, because it's changed.
• 5:54
  Carmen Lezeth: My relationships have changed.
• 5:55
  Carmen Lezeth: So it's interesting that for you that's still that same person.
• 5:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I love that.
• 5:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I love that.
• 6:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm jealous.
• 6:00
  Carmen Lezeth: It's cool, yeah.
• 6:02
  Alma Dawson: And I actually have another one same era that I'm jealous.
• 6:06
  Alma Dawson: It's cool, yeah, and I actually have another one same era.
• 6:07
  Alma Dawson: But our friendship is strong.
• 6:08
  Alma Dawson: But she's not my best friend, but but we're really good friends and we still connect.
• 6:11
  Alma Dawson: Once a month we go have breakfast or lunch and uh, you know so, um, but I used to have a lot more friends and most of them, like you, they've fallen off off.
• 6:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I've kept those two for sure very strong how do you guys stay in touch with your friends?
• 6:27
  Carmen Lezeth: What are some of the ways in which you stay in touch with old friends, new friends, best friends?
• 6:33
  Alma Dawson: I believe in picking up the phone, so I will call um, you know that's gen x.
• 6:41
  Alma Dawson: That's gen x you know, and actually when, and actually when my sister moved away because she got married and she moved away, we would write to each other.
• 6:50
  Alma Dawson: So we would write letters and cards.
• 6:54
  Alma Dawson: We were on different journeys spiritually and she was, I'll say, ahead of me, so she was very encouraging to me on my spiritual path.
• 7:05
  Alma Dawson: So then that also really bonded us a lot because you know, really early on in our marriage we had a lot of challenges with Mario's health and everything and being newlyweds and having those challenges.
• 7:18
  Alma Dawson: She had already been married.
• 7:21
  Alma Dawson: We would write, but definitely I pick up the phone.
• 7:23
  Alma Dawson: I'm the kind that will pick up the phone and at least just say actually just did it last night.
• 7:29
  Alma Dawson: Hey, I just wanted to call and hear your voice, you doing okay, it doesn't have to be a long phone call, but just letting them thinking about you, do you need anything?
• 7:38
  Alma Dawson: And just have a quick check-in.
• 7:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, rick, what's your thought process on how you stay in touch with friends?
• 7:47
  Rick Costa: so pretty much my best friend, whose name's cory, pretty much mostly the only one I really interact with on a regular basis at all because, again, my situation mom, most all my friends are from church who are in a city about 45 minutes away, and we use this app called Marco Polo which, if you never heard of it, it's similar to FaceTime but it's not live, so that way.
• 8:09
  Rick Costa: I just saw a funny video on this somebody it was two guys and two girls talking like if somebody FaceTimes, you do answer right away always.
• 8:16
  Rick Costa: And the girls, yeah, and the boys are like no, you gotta let me know, you gotta text me ahead of time, like it's a schedule.
• 8:22
  Rick Costa: That's why I like marco polo, because you just simply record a message and when they want they can look at it and at their convenience.
• 8:29
  Rick Costa: So that's how we primarily talk.
• 8:31
  Rick Costa: Yeah, and that's how we've actually talked the whole time, even before when I was quote free.
• 8:35
  Rick Costa: We constantly use that app and, yeah, it's awesome, I love it.
• 8:38
  Carmen Lezeth: It's awesome because we've maintained like instagram you just it's like a voice note it's video oh, it's video.
• 8:44
  Rick Costa: It's video yeah, but it's not live like facetime, like I don't say away from the answer, no, I just record it and then, when he sees it, he'll respond back got you, got you, go ahead.
• 8:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Mario, how do you stay in touch with friends?
• 9:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, for me it's phone, phone call.
• 9:03
  Maurio Dawson: primarily.
• 9:04
  Maurio Dawson: Social media has come into play to help me relocate not relocate but reconnect with certain people and then, oh, then, after that that's about it.
• 9:17
  Maurio Dawson: But once some people, I'm okay with you following them because you weren't, you weren't a good friend when you were around, so it's fine.
• 9:25
  Maurio Dawson: But other people it's a happy reconnection and text calling, but primarily calling because I don't.
• 9:33
  Maurio Dawson: Sometimes people can talk too long via text.
• 9:37
  Maurio Dawson: I rather just call.
• 9:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I hate the whole texting thing.
• 9:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not good at it.
• 9:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not good at the whole texting for paragraph long conversations.
• 9:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't stand it.
• 9:46
  Carmen Lezeth: If that's me being old, I'm embracing it.
• 9:49
  Carmen Lezeth: It's all good.
• 9:51
  Rick Costa: There's also a lot of people that use the voice up thing.
• 9:54
  Rick Costa: They don't text.
• 9:55
  Rick Costa: I mean, they're texting but they're talking into the phone.
• 9:57
  Rick Costa: I do that yeah.
• 10:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I think, like Alma said, sometimes I just want to have a live conversation.
• 10:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to have a live conversation.
• 10:04
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to have, I want to have that connection.
• 10:06
  Carmen Lezeth: There's no, I get it.
• 10:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I do the voice notes too and stuff, but I just feel like sometimes you need to like, when Mia texts me, it's her father who died.
• 10:14
  Carmen Lezeth: When she texts me, I knew what she was doing, but I picked up that phone.
• 10:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like and I knew that what she wanted was to have a conversation.
• 10:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Even if she didn't think that's what you, I knew that's what my best friend needed.
• 10:28
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what my best friend needed and all I did was you okay?
• 10:41
  Carmen Lezeth: And then the whole conversation came out and I said nothing except at the end.
• 10:43
  Carmen Lezeth: What can I do for you?
• 10:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm here.
• 10:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Cynthia With me.
• 10:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think it depends on who it is.
• 10:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Some friends will text back and forth, others will call, and then sometimes I'll have dinner or brunch or whatever with a couple other friends.
• 11:00
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So it just depends on who it is and how we'd like to communicate.
• 11:04
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But it's between texting and phone calls usually, and I do have a couple of friends doing brunch.
• 11:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I I don't remember different because we're not friends.
• 11:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that like family?
• 11:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't remember the brunch thing, but my, my jet was was broken for the shop but, mario, you had brought up something and I wanted to know.
• 11:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you said, some things have changed over time.
• 11:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I know our friendship was really developing and solid when I was at brand new school and you were at City National Bank and it was just this.
• 11:35
  Carmen Lezeth: It was a professional relationship, but then it totally delved into something else because I needed the therapy you were provided For me.
• 11:46
  Carmen Lezeth: It was a really solid friendship and then I got to know you and then, over time here's what I love about you and this is what I think about.
• 11:54
  Carmen Lezeth: This is what I think real friendship is about.
• 11:56
  Carmen Lezeth: We didn't talk for years.
• 11:58
  Carmen Lezeth: We were on each other's Facebook or whatever, for whatever reason, but the minute we were like connected again and I forget why we talked again or whatever it was like, it wasn't like why didn't you call me?
• 12:09
  Carmen Lezeth: no, there's no time talk to me like there was.
• 12:12
  Carmen Lezeth: It was like oh, yesterday we were together.
• 12:15
  Maurio Dawson: Now it's been a few years, but hey, what's up yeah, it was like those are the friends you want, where, if time gets away, you just pick up right where you left off, because that means it was a solid friendship to begin with.
• 12:28
  Maurio Dawson: Some people you can let them fall off and you're okay with that, because I know I am.
• 12:34
  Maurio Dawson: But yeah, that's a sign of a good friend, and a true friend is when you can pick up where you left off.
• 12:41
  Carmen Lezeth: And it's easy right.
• 12:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Easy peasy Friends that bring me drama are not friends.
• 12:46
  Carmen Lezeth: They become acquaintances very quick.
• 12:48
  Maurio Dawson: Save for the people in the back.
• 12:52
  Carmen Lezeth: It's for real, though it's for real.
• 12:54
  Carmen Lezeth: We talked a little bit about technology, so I don't want to step there, but what are some red flags in your friendships?
• 13:00
  Carmen Lezeth: And I feel like Alma might be able to just jump in this, but what are some?
• 13:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Because, look, I really believe you need to define for yourself what a friend is and what an acquaintance is, and if you blur them lines, that's where you get in trouble.
• 13:15
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm just curious for you what are some red flags?
• 13:22
  Alma Dawson: I think for me, I think over the years in this year you get, as you get older, you definitely get wiser with how people treat you, but you really have to watch not what people say but what they actually do, and I think that's like a big thing.
• 13:39
  Alma Dawson: I think that over the years, I would definitely let some people go because of that, I really.
• 13:46
  Alma Dawson: Another red flag is if you find yourself with someone who's always in competition with you instead of celebrating you and allowing you to celebrate.
• 13:57
  Alma Dawson: If you're celebrating them but they're not celebrating you.
• 13:59
  Alma Dawson: Red flag.
• 14:01
  Alma Dawson: You know if the only time they reach out to you it's because they need something, then big red flag.
• 14:03
  Alma Dawson: You know, if the only time they reach out to you it's because they need something, then big red flag.
• 14:09
  Alma Dawson: But then when you in turn need something, they never pick up.
• 14:13
  Alma Dawson: They didn't get the call, they missed the text red flag.
• 14:17
  Alma Dawson: So just those are.
• 14:20
  Alma Dawson: Those have been been.
• 14:21
  Alma Dawson: But the really big one for me was your friendship should never be a place where you feel demeaned or a place where someone is making you feel less than, and if you're in a friendship that's like that, it's not a friendship.
• 14:39
  Carmen Lezeth: So get out.
• 14:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Go ahead, Cynthia.
• 14:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm not hearing those words.
• 14:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm agreeing 100% with Alma.
• 14:47
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's true.
• 14:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You guys know, I started this new job a few months ago and I observe people.
• 14:53
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I observe them to see how they, like you said, how they treat people, how they talk about other people, because then you know already what they're about.
• 15:03
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know they're going to do the exact same thing to you.
• 15:07
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And my old job.
• 15:09
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I knew everybody there for 10 years so I knew who were my friends, who are my sisters, and I still talk to them, I hang out with them, we have lunch stuff like that.
• 15:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So you just observe and just watch them and see how they treat others, and that's when you know Can.
• 15:27
  Maurio Dawson: I just say something, of course.
• 15:28
  Maurio Dawson: Another red flag is my grandmother and mother both say if a person will bring a bone, they'll carry a bone, meaning if they're coming gossiping to you, you better believe they're going back gossiping about you.
• 15:45
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's right.
• 15:46
  Maurio Dawson: That is not a friend.
• 15:47
  Maurio Dawson: Take that for all you listeners.
• 15:49
  Maurio Dawson: Remember, if they bring a bone, they'll carry a bone.
• 15:53
  Maurio Dawson: Ooh, that's a good one Right.
• 15:55
  Carmen Lezeth: If somebody's coming and telling you bunching cheddar and whatever and they're gossiping, they're doing the same thing Absolutely.
• 16:02
  Carmen Lezeth: If somebody turned around and talked to somebody else, Ooh, that's a good one.
• 16:06
  Maurio Dawson: That's not a real friend.
• 16:08
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Nope, that's not even an acquaintance.
• 16:10
  Maurio Dawson: No.
• 16:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I ain't in charge, go ahead.
• 16:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just trying to move the conversation on so that we make sure, cynthia and Rick here's one of the things I noticed and I'm going to leave this in the track.
• 16:22
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so hard to get you two to speak.
• 16:26
  Rick Costa: You've been saying so-and-so talk.
• 16:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm trying to get the movement going, not to be like you know, just get the conversation going, Feel free.
• 16:36
  Maurio Dawson: You're trying to follow the director and the producer.
• 16:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And then the idea is to get the flow going.
• 16:42
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 16:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I got you I understood.
• 16:46
  Rick Costa: I think a big thing is also give and take.
• 16:50
  Rick Costa: It should be pretty much more or less equal give and take.
• 16:54
  Rick Costa: But if it's like I'm giving, giving and all you're doing is taking, taking, taking, I'm sorry, vampire, I don't need you.
• 17:00
  Rick Costa: You are just taking, taking, taking and that's draining.
• 17:04
  Rick Costa: And who wants to be around somebody that constantly takes and never is?
• 17:07
  Rick Costa: Oh, but I'm your friend.
• 17:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm your friend, yeah, because sometimes it's hard to see, though, isn't it?
• 17:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Sometimes it's hard like when you're in it and you really like somebody.
• 17:16
  Carmen Lezeth: It's hard to see it.
• 17:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's hard to see it and that's not just with friendships, that's any relationship, that's with family that's with spouses.
• 17:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's not just with friendships.
• 17:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's any relationship.
• 17:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's with family, that's with spouses, that's any relationship.
• 17:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It always should be a give and take.
• 17:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm having a moment, I'm sorry, what All relationships have to be.
• 17:37
  Alma Dawson: I think, especially with family, especially, I think, in the Latino culture you're so conditioned to.
• 17:45
  Alma Dawson: Well, that's your family, that's your family.
• 17:49
  Alma Dawson: And so then when you are giving, giving and there's no, you know and of course we're taught that you don't give expecting anything in return.
• 17:58
  Alma Dawson: But you know, there there has to be boundaries.
• 18:03
  Alma Dawson: But you know, there there has to be boundaries.
• 18:07
  Alma Dawson: So I'm happy for this era that we're in about boundaries and people learning boundaries, and I definitely worked really hard on breaking that cycle for for my daughter and not being because we're really conditioned to be people pleasers.
• 18:18
  Alma Dawson: So it's a hard cycle to break and it it's weird, because the truth is, we need reciprocation.
• 18:26
  Carmen Lezeth: We're social beings.
• 18:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I love people.
• 18:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Like no, no, no, I don't need anything.
• 18:32
  Carmen Lezeth: When I give, what I get back is the joy that I gave.
• 18:36
  Carmen Lezeth: There is something in giving, even if you're donating money, donating your time, whatever, what I get back in, that is a feeling of joy.
• 18:46
  Carmen Lezeth: And it's the same thing with friendships.
• 18:48
  Carmen Lezeth: And so I hear you and I don't know if it's just to the Latino community, but it's for sure the Latino community we definitely are people pleasers.
• 18:56
  Carmen Lezeth: It's definitely all about we need to expect nothing and blah, blah, blah.
• 19:00
  Maurio Dawson: And I think that's also a version of Christianity too.
• 19:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean the whole sacrificing, humility, humbleness, and there's something in that that I understand, but we go too far.
• 19:12
  Carmen Lezeth: We go too far.
• 19:14
  Maurio Dawson: There's nothing wrong with reciprocity.
• 19:16
  Maurio Dawson: I think there should always be reciprocity.
• 19:18
  Maurio Dawson: But I also believe I am the type of friend where I pour into my friends but I can't pour.
• 19:25
  Maurio Dawson: I can't empty my cup pouring into you.
• 19:28
  Maurio Dawson: If I'm pouring into you, guess what friend?
• 19:32
  Maurio Dawson: Every now and then I'm going to need you to pour into me.
• 19:34
  Maurio Dawson: I might not need as much, but I need you to pour into me.
• 19:38
  Maurio Dawson: But you need a friend who is aware.
• 19:40
  Maurio Dawson: That's a good friend, because if they're aware, I say my friend needs something.
• 19:46
  Maurio Dawson: Or hey, friend, what do you need?
• 19:48
  Maurio Dawson: I see your patterns have changed.
• 19:50
  Maurio Dawson: You've gotten quiet.
• 19:51
  Maurio Dawson: What's going on?
• 19:53
  Maurio Dawson: How can I help?
• 19:54
  Maurio Dawson: That's the type of friend you need.
• 19:55
  Maurio Dawson: Or picking up the phone and leaving a message and just say hey, friend.
• 19:58
  Maurio Dawson: Even if they don't pick up, say hey, friend, I'm thinking about you, because there are so many times when I was sick I couldn't pick up the phone.
• 20:05
  Maurio Dawson: But getting that message got me through and that's the sign of a true friend just helping somebody push through.
• 20:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It was funny Today.
• 20:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: This morning I was thinking to myself at work.
• 20:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm like, oh man, I have to call my friend Marie and Nini.
• 20:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I haven't talked to them in a while and don't you know, within an hour or two Nini's calling me, like hey, I'm here, let's have lunch.
• 20:28
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I was like, oh my God, I was like I was just thinking about you.
• 20:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I love when that happens.
• 20:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I love when that happens.
• 20:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Little things like that are you know.
• 20:45
  Carmen Lezeth: This happened with Alden.
• 20:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I know he listening, that's why I'm saying his name.
• 20:47
  Carmen Lezeth: He pissed me off and I didn't like understanding who your friends are and understanding how they behave.
• 20:52
  Carmen Lezeth: So on his birthday I did not wish him a happy birthday because I was pissed, because I ain't like that, I ain't going to be like, oh yeah, happy birthday.
• 21:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 21:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I know.
• 21:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I know I am mean.
• 21:03
  Maurio Dawson: I know, that's Patty.
• 21:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Uh-oh, happy birthday, alden, if you're listening.
• 21:08
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, happy birthday.
• 21:13
  Carmen Lezeth: But wait.
• 21:13
  Carmen Lezeth: So he then in turn on my birthday, because we hadn't talked for months, because we had a falling out.
• 21:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I still loved him, but we had a falling out and it was major.
• 21:22
  Carmen Lezeth: It was a major thing.
• 21:25
  Carmen Lezeth: And then I missed his birthday on purpose.
• 21:26
  Carmen Lezeth: And then on my birthday he called me and I picked up the phone.
• 21:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, he did.
• 21:32
  Carmen Lezeth: He was like happy birthday.
• 21:33
  Carmen Lezeth: And I was like look, I know, I didn't call you on your birthday, I did it on purpose.
• 21:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And he's like I know you did.
• 21:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying don't be your friends.
• 21:43
  Carmen Lezeth: And that's what I appreciated about him.
• 21:45
  Carmen Lezeth: He knew that I was pissed.
• 21:47
  Carmen Lezeth: He could not talk to me at that time.
• 21:49
  Carmen Lezeth: He waited so that then we could laugh about it on my birthday you know what I mean Like he did what he needed to do, and I think that's the other thing I appreciate.
• 21:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Now he could have chosen never to talk to me again.
• 21:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I would have been fine with that.
• 22:00
  Carmen Lezeth: That's how angry I was, but I would have missed him.
• 22:03
  Carmen Lezeth: But still, I was so upset.
• 22:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But he knew, he knew to give you your time and he's.
• 22:09
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm going to call her on the right day and I'm going to get her.
• 22:12
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think that's also a mark of a good friend who knows you well enough.
• 22:16
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 22:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Me and Andrea have had some moments.
• 22:18
  Carmen Lezeth: It it's rare.
• 22:25
  Carmen Lezeth: So when me and Andrea have moments, she knows how I am.
• 22:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I will just avoid talking to her.
• 22:26
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean, but she's different.
• 22:27
  Carmen Lezeth: She ain't going to wait till her birthday.
• 22:29
  Carmen Lezeth: She going to call me when she's ready and she'll be like pick up the phone.
• 22:32
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 22:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Pick up the phone.
• 22:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I need to talk to you.
• 22:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I'm petty.
• 22:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm petty like that.
• 22:38
  Maurio Dawson: You say petty-lu-ya because you are petty.
• 22:42
  Rick Costa: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Petty LaBelle.
• 22:44
  Rick Costa: Petty LaBelle.
• 22:48
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what, when I get angry it's rare, when I get angry at somebody for doing something I think is unethical, immoral I will not talk to you, I just won't do it.
• 23:00
  Carmen Lezeth: It doesn't mean I don't love you, but I need some time.
• 23:03
  Maurio Dawson: I need some time.
• 23:03
  Maurio Dawson: But see, the thing is, you can also, when you're mad with a friend, a true friend, you're supposed to be able to pick up the phone and say, hey, this is what pissed me off, I love you.
• 23:13
  Maurio Dawson: Through it, I let him know.
• 23:16
  Carmen Lezeth: We had a scream and match about it, but that's what I'm saying is that we didn't talk.
• 23:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't want to talk about me and Alden in my relationship.
• 23:23
  Carmen Lezeth: What I'm trying to say is I think a best friend or a real friend who knows you, knows that about you.
• 23:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, reach out to you anyway.
• 23:30
  Carmen Lezeth: And I was being petty, but I was angry and there was.
• 23:33
  Carmen Lezeth: No, he doesn't live here.
• 23:35
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like I could walk to his house and scream and yell and have a fight Like we both.
• 23:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I hung up the phone, he hung up the phone I tried to call.
• 23:46
  Carmen Lezeth: It was and I'm like that's it, it's over.
• 23:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not going to call him on his birthday, until it was really cool when he called me because I was like damn.
• 23:54
  Carmen Lezeth: That's how you felt bitch, Nope, didn't feel like that at all.
• 23:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Not at all.
• 23:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I felt that's a man who loves me and I love him and he gets me and he understands that we could work through it.
• 24:06
  Carmen Lezeth: So I actually don't fight with people.
• 24:09
  Carmen Lezeth: When I'm really angry with you, I think Rick and I or Cynthia and I talked Cynthia knows when I'm really mad at you you're not going to hear from me.
• 24:16
  Carmen Lezeth: That's not what happened with Mario.
• 24:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, you're saying that's what you like.
• 24:22
  Alma Dawson: No, that's what I do.
• 24:23
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what he's like.
• 24:24
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I thought you were saying that's what happened between me and you.
• 24:29
  Maurio Dawson: No, if I'm seething, you better be afraid of my silence.
• 24:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that's what happened with me and Alden.
• 24:35
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what happened.
• 24:36
  Carmen Lezeth: What did you just do?
• 24:39
  Carmen Lezeth: What was that?
• 24:40
  Maurio Dawson: A notification popped up in the middle of my screen.
• 24:42
  Maurio Dawson: What did you just do?
• 24:43
  Maurio Dawson: What was that?
• 24:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I let the notification pop up in the middle of my period, oh, when I'm seething Boom.
• 24:48
  Maurio Dawson: Boom, you're out the door, You're out.
• 24:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Side left when.
• 24:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia first started on the app on doing the live stream.
• 24:57
  Carmen Lezeth: She was cleaning the camera she was like she literally did that.
• 25:02
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It was so funny.
• 25:06
  Alma Dawson: Cynthia was talking about friends at the workplace.
• 25:09
  Alma Dawson: I don't okay.
• 25:11
  Alma Dawson: So the first location where I was there for 20, 20 plus years and I learned some very hard lessons there you can't be friends with your coworkers.
• 25:28
  Alma Dawson: That's my experience I had a lot of, because a lot of people cannot separate when you're a supervisor, they cannot separate a friendship from the work and they take it personally.
• 25:52
  Carmen Lezeth: When I moved over to this new location where I am very purposefully Cognizant.
• 25:56
  Alma Dawson: Cognizant yes.
• 25:57
  Alma Dawson: Of not blurring those lines, and it's definitely helped me to be able to be more efficient, because I'm able to say, hey, this is not correct, this is what it is, and just be able to roll with it without having to consider oh, what is this going to do to the friendship?
• 26:17
  Alma Dawson: Because there is no, no.
• 26:20
  Carmen Lezeth: You were in a different position than than maybe what Cynthia's talking about.
• 26:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not friends with my clients.
• 26:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I have two clients who are like let's go and have a drink.
• 26:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like absolutely not, absolutely not, Never.
• 26:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you know what I mean?
• 26:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I have to handle their money and I've been through that.
• 26:33
  Carmen Lezeth: But are there other people that work in a similar position that I do with other people that I might mingle with?
• 26:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Sure, you know what I mean, but I also would never be friends with somebody who is and I say this respectfully that I supervisor is below me.
• 26:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Does that make sense?
• 26:53
  Carmen Lezeth: You're talking about your coworkers.
• 26:55
  Carmen Lezeth: You're actually a team.
• 26:56
  Carmen Lezeth: You're all on the same level pretty much.
• 26:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, I would never do that with my supervisor.
• 27:02
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: If I was a supervisor, I yeah, I wouldn't never do that but I'm talking about like my equal.
• 27:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: What happened?
• 27:08
  Carmen Lezeth: You can't share that.
• 27:09
  Carmen Lezeth: What happened with the other experience?
• 27:11
  Carmen Lezeth: You can't really share that.
• 27:13
  Maurio Dawson: Um, you say without telling anyone it sounds juicy.
• 27:16
  Carmen Lezeth: What happened Like?
• 27:20
  Alma Dawson: just people get their feelings hurt, and so then they want to, then they want to, then they want to say, oh, you should have just let me know without you know without without making it official or things like that, and it's no, because then that brings into question my like you said, my integrity, my, so no, I'm not gonna do that for anyone, literally.
• 27:45
  Alma Dawson: So it's no.
• 27:46
  Alma Dawson: So, like I said, it was just a lesson for myself to know that even though I'm able to separate other people can't always well maria knows, a brand new school.
• 27:57
  Carmen Lezeth: That happened to me.
• 27:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I was friends with all them people and when things got really bad, I I quit on the spot.
• 28:04
  Carmen Lezeth: I quit on the spot and I was.
• 28:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Jonathan was like a brother to me.
• 28:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I knew his mom very well, like I was all up in it, and that's where I learned my lesson Never.
• 28:15
  Maurio Dawson: And that was a mistake.
• 28:17
  Alma Dawson: And then same I was there for people, for their kids' birth, weddings for parents, deaths, all of those things, not just as a co-worker but as a friend and it, like you said, it was like I was like nope, never again, I won't do this again because, at the end of the day also, your boss is your boss and they will.
• 28:39
  Carmen Lezeth: they are.
• 28:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, that's what happened with Jonathan.
• 28:41
  Carmen Lezeth: He then thought it was okay to talk to me the way he did, and not only was he wrong about talking to me in that way, anyway just, but it also was like wait, what about our friendship?
• 28:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I thought we were.
• 28:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I thought we, you're like my little brother, and it was.
• 28:56
  Carmen Lezeth: He was like you are not my sister.
• 28:58
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean Exactly?
• 29:00
  Carmen Lezeth: He was like I am your boss and I am choosing to do this.
• 29:03
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm like then I quit, and that's how that happened.
• 29:09
  Carmen Lezeth: It was hardcore, it was.
• 29:10
  Carmen Lezeth: And then there was like a whole other yelling, screaming, match thing that happened after that.
• 29:12
  Carmen Lezeth: It was horrible.
• 29:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Leaving brand new school was the best thing I ever did.
• 29:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I should have done it four years before, but the way it happened was so sad because I had put my heart and soul into that company.
• 29:22
  Alma Dawson: Heart and soul into that company, heart and soul, into it.
• 29:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I know, I know, I know, rick, what about you?
• 29:28
  Rick Costa: I mean as far as work, I can be shocking, a little naive, and think, yeah, these people are my friends, these people are my friends, but then when you leave, all of a sudden, it's cool.
• 29:37
  Rick Costa: They don't know you at all, they don't care, you ain't work with them, no more.
• 29:42
  Rick Costa: They don't even care, even if they're on social media, like I've tried reaching out to people.
• 29:46
  Rick Costa: Sometimes they answer something real brief or they don't even say nothing back.
• 29:49
  Rick Costa: They don't even bother looking, checking nothing, whatever.
• 29:51
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I could be a little naive that way.
• 29:53
  Rick Costa: Yeah, we're friends, we're friends, yeah, at work, but that's it, it don't go further than that.
• 30:03
  Carmen Lezeth: What about internet?
• 30:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You have a lot of friends you met on HAPS and you met online.
• 30:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I think that's interesting too, like the dynamic of how social media helps us, especially when we're isolated, in whatever our job or state is.
• 30:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Especially, the situation you're in is very I don't want to say unique, because there are a lot of people going through what you're going through taking care of a parent and stuff.
• 30:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think is it harder for you excuse me to make friends because you're relying on online relationships.
• 30:26
  Carmen Lezeth: But you've met a lot of people that you've met online.
• 30:29
  Carmen Lezeth: And how is that different or good, or you know what I mean Like, what is that like?
• 30:35
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely not the same as face-to-face.
• 30:37
  Rick Costa: Being able to talk to somebody face-to-face Because, yeah, most of the right now probably more friends online than in real life.
• 30:44
  Rick Costa: Because, again, the situation.
• 30:45
  Maurio Dawson: I'm your friend, rick, don't you worry, I am your friend, you can call me, I feel it.
• 30:51
  Rick Costa: You got it.
• 30:51
  Rick Costa: I'm my name.
• 30:54
  Rick Costa: Oh no, that's another song.
• 30:55
  Rick Costa: Yeah, so it's definitely different.
• 31:00
  Rick Costa: It's definitely not the same as face-to-face.
• 31:00
  Rick Costa: So it's definitely different.
• 31:01
  Rick Costa: It's definitely not the same as face-to-face.
• 31:02
  Rick Costa: Let's go to the movies.
• 31:02
  Rick Costa: I can't say that with somebody who lives across the country.
• 31:04
  Rick Costa: Yeah, but can I say I've had real friendships that way.
• 31:09
  Rick Costa: Yeah.
• 31:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Not maybe quite as deep, but almost as deep as a face-to-face.
• 31:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I think you've been hurt only because I know the situation.
• 31:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I know you've been hurt as deeply as I've been in person with friendships, because our emotions I don't think change if it's online versus in real life.
• 31:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that fair to say for you?
• 31:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't want to speak on your behalf, but I just know of a certain situation where I think you were really hurt by what happened and I think that's real too.
• 31:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I think social media does matter.
• 31:38
  Carmen Lezeth: It doesn't make it any less fake of a friendship.
• 31:42
  Rick Costa: Yeah, because, even though I said before it's give and take, I feel like I'm a giver and it's just naturally that way.
• 31:48
  Rick Costa: I want to give to my detriment, even if it hurts, even if it's like you're hurting yourself because you'd be taking care of you.
• 31:56
  Rick Costa: But I'll be like, but I need to help them.
• 31:58
  Rick Costa: I've already had therapy about this.
• 32:00
  Rick Costa: They said I got a messianic complex.
• 32:02
  Rick Costa: Okay, meaning thank you to Messiah.
• 32:05
  Rick Costa: You won't save everybody, I know.
• 32:06
  Rick Costa: I even had the nerve to say to him and I go what's wrong with that?
• 32:09
  Rick Costa: That's wrong with that, that you don't know the problem.
• 32:12
  Rick Costa: So, yeah, I'm working on it.
• 32:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think there's anything wrong.
• 32:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I think you're a good person and you I mean this is the flip side of it.
• 32:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I think you want the best in people and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
• 32:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I think the situation that I know of it's like when you're in it, you cannot see it.
• 32:32
  Carmen Lezeth: When you're in it, you cannot see the hole you're in, you can't see above, you can't see it, you're not even looking up.
• 32:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And I think people, intentionally or unintentionally, will take advantage of that.
• 32:45
  Carmen Lezeth: And I think that's what was happening with that situation and I'm sorry you went through that and we've all gone through that, but I don't think it's any different from social media or in real life.
• 32:56
  Carmen Lezeth: And I think that's the other part of it too, because I've been through it before.
• 32:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I saw it easily.
• 33:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I saw it easily.
• 33:05
  Carmen Lezeth: So once you've experienced it, you'll never let that happen again.
• 33:07
  Alma Dawson: You won't In real life.
• 33:09
  Alma Dawson: For us, I think it's every time we reached another I'll say milestone for our lives, we've had people fall off, people who we thought were really going to go.
• 33:27
  Alma Dawson: The distance would just oh okay.
• 33:31
  Alma Dawson: So I see you now and it really hurt.
• 33:34
  Alma Dawson: I'll say first, when we got engaged, when we got engaged, we saw a few people's true colors and it was like okay.
• 33:44
  Alma Dawson: Then, when we got married, it was like a whole nother, like another group of people not understanding how our marriage works.
• 33:56
  Alma Dawson: I think that's more of a jealousy thing,
• 33:58
  Alma Dawson: yes again, but that's not friends, because yeah, instead of celebrating, you know, and then when we had, and then when, soon after he was, he was ill, and it was like that was really eye opening to, to see the people who, like I said you watch their actions and not their words, there were a lot of words spoken oh, whatever you need, whenever you need it, all of those things, and then when you call on them, nowhere to be found, and it's really, it's very isolating when you're going through that, not just for me as a caretaker, but for him also being not being well, it's in in different ways for both of us and then to have those people who you were counting on, really not for anything more than just, uh, the friendship or the support, to just drop you because they don't know how to deal with what, what your situation is at that time the true test of who someone isn't when things are easy, it's when things are hard.
• 35:06
  Alma Dawson: Yeah yeah, but I'll tell you what the next time that we really saw a change was when we had our daughter, because then it was like a whole nother group of people who were like oh, you have a kid now, your life is over, you're not going to be able to do anything.
• 35:22
  Alma Dawson: Oh my God, like it was.
• 35:25
  Alma Dawson: I'm telling you.
• 35:25
  Alma Dawson: It was just like it's like at every like different, like I said, like a milestone, whether it be good or bad, mario and I always really talk about it and just say God removes those people.
• 35:36
  Carmen Lezeth: you don't need just to make room for the people who are going to be there for you On the flip side, did you see the opposite, where people that you didn't realize would come through and just were there for you?
• 35:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you see?
• 35:51
  Alma Dawson: that I'll say.
• 35:53
  Alma Dawson: It was the true blue people who were already we already knew were going to.
• 36:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I know when.
• 36:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Mario's upset with somebody because he'd be preaching on Facebook or Instagram.
• 36:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, ooh, somebody did Mario wrong.
• 36:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Because he will post something and you just know.
• 36:15
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, because the thing is, I'm loyal to a fault, but and I ride hard for my friends I have learned not to pour my expectations on them.
• 36:34
  Maurio Dawson: I have to meet people where they are and understand that we are not in the same space.
• 36:40
  Maurio Dawson: However, there is a standard and a level that I expect in any friendship.
• 36:47
  Maurio Dawson: I expect honesty, I expect communication, I expect honesty, I expect communication.
• 36:54
  Maurio Dawson: And when those things don't come through and I've asked you and I've told you directly what I'm searching for not searching for, but what I'm looking for in a friendship and you don't come through, yeah, then I got to cut you loose Because life is I'm getting too old, life is too short, I don't have time for the bullshit.
• 37:11
  Maurio Dawson: It's either piss or get off the pot.
• 37:13
  Maurio Dawson: If you're going to be here, if you're not, step off.
• 37:15
  Maurio Dawson: I don't have time.
• 37:17
  Maurio Dawson: But my friends, like my real true blues, have been my true blues.
• 37:24
  Maurio Dawson: I had one person show up at my door when I had my kidney transplant out of the blue.
• 37:29
  Maurio Dawson: I thought he was coming to rekindle the friendship.
• 37:33
  Maurio Dawson: No, he was coming to rekindle the friendship.
• 37:34
  Maurio Dawson: No, he was coming to clear his conscience.
• 37:35
  Maurio Dawson: Okay, but do you?
• 37:38
  Maurio Dawson: I saw him that one time.
• 37:39
  Maurio Dawson: He showed up at my door.
• 37:41
  Maurio Dawson: He had his tail tucked between his legs and I just want to apologize.
• 37:47
  Maurio Dawson: Okay, thank you.
• 37:50
  Maurio Dawson: And then I never heard from him again, which was fine.
• 37:54
  Maurio Dawson: But don't do, I'm not here to, I'm not your priest, I'm not your counselor, you shouldn't have showed up.
• 38:03
  Maurio Dawson: That's not being a friend.
• 38:04
  Maurio Dawson: And then the same thing about the ringtones I got to come back to that.
• 38:08
  Maurio Dawson: The ringtones, the ringtones Sometimes we as our friends, we have special ringtones for our friends, Certain people right.
• 38:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, I'm going to call you right now, see what rings, don't do that Because somebody?
• 38:22
  Maurio Dawson: okay, that's the whole point of this story.
• 38:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
• 38:25
  Maurio Dawson: No, that's the whole point of this story.
• 38:27
  Maurio Dawson: I have a friend and I call him my brother, so his ringtone came on.
• 38:33
  Maurio Dawson: I was in the hospital.
• 38:34
  Maurio Dawson: It says your brother's on the phone, and so I pick up.
• 38:39
  Maurio Dawson: I'm like, hey, bro, I can talk to you right now.
• 38:41
  Maurio Dawson: Another friend was in the room.
• 38:43
  Maurio Dawson: He calls me his bro, but we were just working on that friendship.
• 38:49
  Maurio Dawson: So he picks up the phone to see if he gets a ringtone.
• 38:53
  Maurio Dawson: It's this regular ringtone and his feelings were hurt when I say he was butt hurt and he has never recovered like even right now.
• 39:05
  Maurio Dawson: We're friends but we're not the same over a ringtone.
• 39:11
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's awesome.
• 39:13
  Maurio Dawson: Wow, I'm telling you, it's crazy, these ringtones.
• 39:17
  Maurio Dawson: I'm like come on y'all.
• 39:19
  Maurio Dawson: She was devastating.
• 39:22
  Maurio Dawson: Was he not Devastating?
• 39:25
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Juan actually has a special ringtone for me and it's hilarious.
• 39:31
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: When I call it it says warning, it's the wife.
• 39:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So anytime I call him and he's around, like outside or his friends or whatever they think, first they hear the siren and they're like what's going on, what's going on?
• 39:44
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And then they hear it's the wife, it's the wife.
• 39:47
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They just start cracking.
• 39:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, I have a client who has the and it's the only reason why I know the Star Wars.
• 39:53
  Carmen Lezeth: That Star Wars theme Darth Vader.
• 39:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like that is wrong.
• 39:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That is so wrong.
• 40:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I almost bring Tony Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- oh, that's good, you keep that secret, but you probably have to tell people because you're like no, no, no, that's the wife that's the wife that's the wife baby and then another friend I was super pissed off with and I changed the ringtone and I forgot to change it back.
• 40:28
  Maurio Dawson: So the ringtone said asshole calling oh, that's not petty.
• 40:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't realize.
• 40:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You and I are so alike.
• 40:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't realize.
• 40:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I never knew that, but I think we were pretty much really alike yes, that's why we get along so well.
• 40:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm hardcore.
• 40:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I can count my friends on my one hand and I'm okay.
• 40:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think you need to have a lot of friends.
• 40:59
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But my friend.
• 40:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Richard.
• 41:00
  Carmen Lezeth: May he rest in peace.
• 41:01
  Carmen Lezeth: This is the argument we used to have all the time he said my standards are too high and I was like your standards are too low.
• 41:07
  Carmen Lezeth: And he learned that really the hard way Because when he got in trouble, the only people he was one of these people he would be in like in an airport in singapore and he would know somebody.
• 41:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody knew richard.
• 41:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody knew who he was, no matter where he was in the world.
• 41:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody would know this really tall, black, beautiful man.
• 41:27
  Carmen Lezeth: They would always know him and he thought those were all friends.
• 41:31
  Carmen Lezeth: And when he got in trouble and he did he got in trouble and he did.
• 41:33
  Carmen Lezeth: He got in trouble he was accused of sexual harassment.
• 41:35
  Carmen Lezeth: That did not happen.
• 41:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I love him and I trust him.
• 41:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 41:41
  Carmen Lezeth: He was my ride or die.
• 41:42
  Carmen Lezeth: He was one of my ride or dies, but he got accused of sexual harassment.
• 41:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody gone except for two of us and thousands of people that he thought were his friends.
• 41:51
  Carmen Lezeth: And we were there, we got you, we're here for you and he lost his job over there.
• 41:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 41:57
  Carmen Lezeth: This was a big deal, a huge big deal, but that's what happens, like the test of your friendship isn't when things are easy, but it's when things are hard.
• 42:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Now, did he make some mistakes along the way?
• 42:08
  Carmen Lezeth: He absolutely did, and you being in the education field, I always think about this.
• 42:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, this my seventh grade teacher took me in.
• 42:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I lived in her apartment.
• 42:19
  Carmen Lezeth: If that happened today, teachers would be accused of everything under the sun, but that was my saving grace.
• 42:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I would take it to school by my third grade teacher in a car.
• 42:30
  Carmen Lezeth: He would pick me up and drive me so I'd make sure I would go to school.
• 42:33
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 42:34
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just like things have changed now, but even back then, if people knew what teachers were doing back then I think even teachers.
• 42:41
  Carmen Lezeth: We can talk about teachers on another day, but I'm just saying they are so disrespectful and so in the things that they do to try to save their children and always go above and beyond.
• 42:51
  Alma Dawson: It starts from the office all the way to the teachers.
• 42:57
  Maurio Dawson: Truly Shout out to Abbott Elementary Boom.
• 43:01
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, great show right.
• 43:02
  Maurio Dawson: Because that's what they talk about there all the time.
• 43:06
  Alma Dawson: But they really should do more on the office because the office has some really funny stories.
• 43:11
  Alma Dawson: They got the juice.
• 43:11
  Maurio Dawson: I'll have to send an email and be like More on the office because the office has some really funny stories.
• 43:14
  Alma Dawson: They got the juice, yes.
• 43:15
  Maurio Dawson: We got the juice.
• 43:16
  Alma Dawson: I'll have to send an email and be like you need to bring me on.
• 43:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, but it's that thing too, like you.
• 43:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Just I don't want to switch it over to talking about teachers, but it's that same thing is you don't realize?
• 43:28
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not just about learning math or learning English or going to gym or whatever.
• 43:33
  Carmen Lezeth: It's like teachers for me went above and beyond and literally my saving grace as to why I am here today.
• 43:40
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not even a question, you know, but yeah, it's.
• 43:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 43:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Relationships are hard.
• 43:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, let me ask you this thing Do you guys have a great or miserable story of a friend that you miss?
• 43:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I'll start.
• 43:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I had a friend that I used to hang out with all the time.
• 44:00
  Carmen Lezeth: We used to go to dinner all the time.
• 44:01
  Carmen Lezeth: We used to go at least once a month to some, and I wouldn't say I'm a foodie, but I love going to expensive restaurants and I remember even at that time I was like saving my money because this woman, she could go, she got money, we would go out to eat and we were going to do halves and halves, whatever.
• 44:16
  Carmen Lezeth: And somewhere along the way, something happened where I heard she talked about a group of people.
• 44:33
  Carmen Lezeth: She's Jewish and she talked people in a certain kind of way.
• 44:37
  Carmen Lezeth: That's all I need to know Because I can easily you know what I mean.
• 44:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you can't be and me not think at some point.
• 44:45
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not going to come towards me.
• 44:47
  Maurio Dawson: Right, you know what I mean.
• 44:48
  Carmen Lezeth: And so I always think about that.
• 44:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel bad because that friendship ended and it ended pretty slowly.
• 44:56
  Carmen Lezeth: But I was like, oh, I can't make it.
• 44:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I'm sorry, you know what I mean.
• 44:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't, I couldn't confront it because I was just like not in that space.
• 45:01
  Carmen Lezeth: But I always think about how much fun we used to have.
• 45:04
  Carmen Lezeth: We would go.
• 45:04
  Carmen Lezeth: It'd be like we'd be like checking out the guys.
• 45:07
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, it was like we had wingman kind of thing happened.
• 45:10
  Carmen Lezeth: It was just a fun thing.
• 45:12
  Carmen Lezeth: But that one thing switched it up and to this day I still can't stand her.
• 45:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't talk to her or anything, but I still see some things that she posts or whatever, and I'm like you, bigoted, no good for nothing, racist.
• 45:27
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I think of that in my head.
• 45:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you guys have any stories like that.
• 45:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Go ahead, Rick.
• 45:34
  Rick Costa: I, I think of that in my head.
• 45:34
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I don't know.
• 45:35
  Rick Costa: If you guys have any stories like that, go ahead.
• 45:36
  Rick Costa: Rick, I was just thinking about somebody who I this was, mind you, third grade into fourth grade.
• 45:40
  Rick Costa: I was young and dumb, but in the third grade I had this girl named Lori that I liked hey.
• 45:47
  Rick Costa: Lori.
• 45:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Shout out, Lori.
• 45:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Shout out to Lori.
• 45:52
  Rick Costa: We considered each other boyfriend and girlfriend at that young age and like we would say, oh, that's my boyfriend, that's my girlfriend.
• 45:59
  Rick Costa: Then fourth grade came, I didn't even exist.
• 46:05
  Rick Costa: And when I said one time in front of her friends.
• 46:07
  Rick Costa: Oh, that's my girlfriend.
• 46:09
  Rick Costa: They all laughed.
• 46:13
  Maurio Dawson: She put you down like a bad habit.
• 46:14
  Maurio Dawson: I'm sorry.
• 46:20
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's a bad habit.
• 46:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm sorry, friend.
• 46:25
  Maurio Dawson: That's cold blooded.
• 46:27
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I love?
• 46:28
  Carmen Lezeth: He over here talking about the third and fourth grade.
• 46:31
  Maurio Dawson: I know.
• 46:32
  Rick Costa: It's like breaking my heart First grade I had my first quote girlfriend.
• 46:37
  Rick Costa: Her name was Kimberly In first grade.
• 46:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You had a girlfriend.
• 46:42
  Maurio Dawson: You are pimping a player.
• 46:43
  Maurio Dawson: Look at you.
• 46:46
  Rick Costa: Yo, I had two girls from the neighborhood that literally in front of me, right in front of me.
• 46:50
  Rick Costa: Oh, you were in the neighborhood.
• 46:52
  Rick Costa: Rick.
• 46:52
  Rick Costa: Each other in front of me, right in front of me.
• 46:55
  Rick Costa: Get in the neighborhood, rick.
• 46:56
  Rick Costa: They were talking about each other in front of me.
• 46:58
  Rick Costa: Not exciting, literally, you're not kidding, lord Jesus.
• 47:01
  Carmen Lezeth: My first boyfriend.
• 47:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I was in the seventh grade.
• 47:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to throw that out there.
• 47:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You were in the first grade flirting around being a hoe.
• 47:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just throwing that out there.
• 47:08
  Rick Costa: Yeah, Anything about anything at that age.
• 47:11
  Rick Costa: But the funny story was I found out she was moving away and then my dad, we were going to pick up my mom and I was like, oh she's going to move away.
• 47:18
  Rick Costa: This really stinks.
• 47:20
  Rick Costa: I don't know what I'm going to do and my dad's like what you going to do.
• 47:22
  Rick Costa: You're not going to be able to see her, no more.
• 47:23
  Rick Costa: And I said first grade again I don't know what that is Something like that I was in first grade.
• 47:34
  Maurio Dawson: I didn't know that she's going to report it to the lost and found.
• 47:36
  Maurio Dawson: Bring her back.
• 47:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick, rick, we got to get you out dating us some.
• 47:42
  Carmen Lezeth: We got to get you out.
• 47:43
  Carmen Lezeth: We got to get you out.
• 47:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He's coming up in the first grade now he all, right, he all right.
• 47:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: First Third grade.
• 47:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't even remember first and third grade.
• 47:54
  Alma Dawson: I do.
• 47:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I do.
• 47:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I remember all my teachers too.
• 47:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I remember my teachers.
• 47:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't remember being in love with anybody.
• 48:01
  Maurio Dawson: I just remember certain people you can't forget.
• 48:05
  Maurio Dawson: A person by the name of Sanquinita you can't forget a name like that Sanquinita.
• 48:12
  Maurio Dawson: Her name was Sanquinita.
• 48:13
  Maurio Dawson: I won't say her last name, but yeah, you can't forget a name like that, sanquinita.
• 48:14
  Maurio Dawson: Her name was Sanquinita.
• 48:14
  Maurio Dawson: I won't say her last name, but yeah.
• 48:16
  Carmen Lezeth: You don't have to Sanquinita.
• 48:18
  Rick Costa: I'm sure there's not a lot of them out there.
• 48:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Right, who else's name is Sanquinita?
• 48:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, that's a cool name.
• 48:25
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm still friends with somebody from first grade.
• 48:29
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I send them Christmas cards to his parents and him.
• 48:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Every year you get a Christmas card From the first grade.
• 48:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Handmade cards.
• 48:40
  Alma Dawson: You know how you can engage friends.
• 48:42
  Alma Dawson: Send some of those cards out.
• 48:45
  Maurio Dawson: That's a good.
• 48:47
  Alma Dawson: Christmas card.
• 48:48
  Maurio Dawson: It's coming.
• 48:49
  Maurio Dawson: Matter of fact, her birthday's coming up.
• 48:51
  Maurio Dawson: You can send a birthday card.
• 48:52
  Carmen Lezeth: When's your birthday, alma?
• 48:53
  Carmen Lezeth: It's coming.
• 48:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, matter of fact, her birthday's coming up.
• 48:53
  Carmen Lezeth: You can send a birthday card.
• 48:54
  Carmen Lezeth: When's your birthday, alma?
• 48:56
  Alma Dawson: It's in February.
• 48:57
  Maurio Dawson: The beginning of February.
• 49:00
  Carmen Lezeth: The third, I'm not going to remember.
• 49:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I won't remember.
• 49:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia's going to remember.
• 49:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Okay, Cynthia, you're going to send her a card right, yes, I need your address.
• 49:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, don't, I got you Not here Mario's March.
• 49:16
  Maurio Dawson: Mine is March.
• 49:17
  Maurio Dawson: My mom, my uncle, my grandfather's Is it the 21st?
• 49:22
  Maurio Dawson: Dang, you were good.
• 49:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Boom.
• 49:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, can you send it to me so I can put it in my calendar and then pretend I'm both Alma and Mario?
• 49:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I couldn't even remember rick's, and I've known rick now for four years.
• 49:37
  Carmen Lezeth: All I know it's in january and I was like january 5th, january 4th.
• 49:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, when it comes to birthdays, I'm so sorry we were evacuated on my birthday.
• 49:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to say it was a horrible birthday.
• 49:55
  Carmen Lezeth: No, it was a good birthday because we were fine.
• 49:58
  Maurio Dawson: Because you were safe, you were fine, your house was fine, you made it through.
• 50:00
  Maurio Dawson: It was a great birthday.
• 50:01
  Maurio Dawson: I was grateful.
• 50:02
  Rick Costa: Jimmy Choo's are safe.
• 50:03
  Rick Costa: Yep.
• 50:05
  Maurio Dawson: Jimmy Choo's are good.
• 50:06
  Carmen Lezeth: My shoes.
• 50:08
  Maurio Dawson: Jimmy Choo's Jimmy Ch.
• 50:11
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what?
• 50:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't even wear them anymore.
• 50:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I have to sell them or get rid of them, but they're safe, that's all that matters.
• 50:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I know, but I don't even need them.
• 50:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't wear heels anymore and I have so many of them.
• 50:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I should probably get rid of them, but it's not going to happen anyways.
• 50:25
  Maurio Dawson: Now I got to tell you one story, alma and I can tell you Recently we had a couple that we were well, we're friends with them still somewhat, but we had a really big.
• 50:38
  Maurio Dawson: We were like brothers, sisters, we ran everywhere, we did everything together and we had the biggest falling out because, again, not taking accountability for something that you did, and all I was asking was, hey, this happened, you did it, you didn't do it.
• 50:59
  Maurio Dawson: Can you just say I messed up, double damn.
• 51:03
  Maurio Dawson: I didn't do that.
• 51:04
  Maurio Dawson: You're gaslighting me.
• 51:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't do that.
• 51:07
  Maurio Dawson: So I was like cool.
• 51:08
  Maurio Dawson: So I started slowly pulling away, like you, carmen.
• 51:11
  Maurio Dawson: Hey, can you come to this, can't make it.
• 51:26
  Maurio Dawson: Got other plans.
• 51:27
  Maurio Dawson: Hey, we're having dinner.
• 51:28
  Maurio Dawson: What?
• 51:29
  Maurio Dawson: My calendar, dang, it's already full.
• 51:30
  Maurio Dawson: Give me next time.
• 51:31
  Maurio Dawson: So said, hey, I really miss you.
• 51:33
  Maurio Dawson: I don't know why we fell out, but I'm like you do, but okay, I do.
• 51:40
  Maurio Dawson: Let me remind you three years later.
• 51:42
  Maurio Dawson: Let me, because it was like, let me refresh your memory.
• 51:45
  Maurio Dawson: And then he invited me to dinner.
• 51:48
  Maurio Dawson: We sat down, he apologized for everything, took accountability for everything.
• 51:55
  Maurio Dawson: I really miss you and I miss Marissa.
• 51:58
  Maurio Dawson: Can we just forget all of that and just start right now?
• 52:01
  Maurio Dawson: I tell you what?
• 52:02
  Maurio Dawson: Let me weave my way back into this, because now, at this point, I don't miss you.
• 52:07
  Maurio Dawson: At this point, life is going on.
• 52:10
  Maurio Dawson: At this point, you're a non-factor, no shade, but you're a non-factor.
• 52:16
  Maurio Dawson: So, yeah, let's work on the friendship again.
• 52:18
  Maurio Dawson: We can start talking, we can start texting slowly.
• 52:22
  Maurio Dawson: So that's where we are.
• 52:24
  Maurio Dawson: With that, we're slowly working our way back.
• 52:27
  Maurio Dawson: Not to say I don't want to be friends again, but now you've shown me.
• 52:30
  Maurio Dawson: Now I have to come at you with a different angle.
• 52:31
  Maurio Dawson: You know what.
• 52:32
  Maurio Dawson: I can forgive you, but that doesn've shown me.
• 52:33
  Maurio Dawson: Now I have to come at you with a different angle.
• 52:34
  Maurio Dawson: You know what?
• 52:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I can forgive you, but that doesn't mean you need to be back in my life and I'm-.
• 52:38
  Maurio Dawson: No, but yeah, I understand, you're apologizing to yourself.
• 52:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I think that's cool, but for me I've had that not similar situation.
• 52:44
  Carmen Lezeth: But time happens and then something happens and then I'm done and I can't switch it back on.
• 52:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I appreciate the apology.
• 52:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I happens and then I'm done and I can't switch it back on.
• 52:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I appreciate the apology, I appreciate everything you said and I wish we could be friends again, but something's changing me.
• 52:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm really hardcore about that.
• 53:00
  Carmen Lezeth: It's hard for me.
• 53:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I appreciate what you're saying, but it's hard for me to let, especially because here's the thing and this I do believe and I wish, if anything, if anybody's listening to this, that hear me when you let toxicity out of your life you don't want to nothing else, comes right back in to fill it in something else better, pure.
• 53:20
  Carmen Lezeth: It doesn't matter what it is.
• 53:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm telling you, this has happened to me so many times when I have let go of people who are just not with me.
• 53:28
  Carmen Lezeth: They're not doing it right for me.
• 53:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Something else has taken that place and it's always been better 703.
• 53:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know what 703 is.
• 53:40
  Maurio Dawson: It's the time we've done an hour.
• 53:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, Rick has been telling me.
• 53:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I know I got you.
• 53:43
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you say 703?
• 53:47
  Maurio Dawson: Yes.
• 53:47
  Carmen Lezeth: What's 703?
• 53:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: The time, more time.
• 53:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, I thought it was Wait wait, because you know what In my head I'm still thinking East Coast, because it's Cynthia and Rick.
• 54:07
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what?
• 54:08
  Rick Costa: I mean, what color is your cup?
• 54:10
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: today.
• 54:10
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: What color is the cup today?
• 54:12
  Alma Dawson: It's just water.
• 54:13
  Alma Dawson: What?
• 54:13
  Maurio Dawson: color is the cup?
• 54:14
  Maurio Dawson: No, it depends on the color of your cup today.
• 54:14
  Maurio Dawson: What color is the cup today?
• 54:14
  Maurio Dawson: It's just water.
• 54:14
  Maurio Dawson: What?
• 54:14
  Alma Dawson: color is the cup.
• 54:14
  Alma Dawson: No, what's in the cup?
• 54:16
  Maurio Dawson: No, it depends on the color of the cup.
• 54:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's water.
• 54:20
  Carmen Lezeth: It's water.
• 54:20
  Carmen Lezeth: It's water.
• 54:21
  Carmen Lezeth: No, you know what?
• 54:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I've been writing all of the promos and I've been trying to do all these little things.
• 54:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm trying to anyways, and so I'm always thinking East Coast time, because even think of East Coast time, because even people in Europe they always it's easier for them to understand New York time to base our time off of.
• 54:36
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what one of my friends told me.
• 54:45
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So I'm sorry, that was I was like a 703, like a code, literally the time.
• 54:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's all.
• 54:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, all right, well, so we'll wrap this up.
• 54:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Thank you so much.
• 54:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I think that was a cool, fun conversation just about friendships.
• 54:56
  Carmen Lezeth: And I look at, I think relationships are really hard.
• 55:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I think friendships are.
• 55:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I think people have to have a very full understanding of what friendship means to them, because I think people confuse, like what Alma said earlier, friendships versus acquaintances, and so maybe next time we can get into another whole conversation about relationships in general with spouses, with boyfriends, jamal, with whatever.
• 55:23
  Maurio Dawson: Oh definitely.
• 55:24
  Maurio Dawson: Wherever you are, Jamal, we're looking for you, buddy, yeah.
• 55:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Jamal is at the house today.
• 55:29
  Carmen Lezeth: But with that I'll say good night to everyone, or I should say good afternoon, because this will be airing on Sunday in the afternoon.
• 55:36
  Carmen Lezeth: But thank you so much, cynthia, for stopping by.
• 55:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick also, and it's always a pleasure.
• 55:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Marianne Amas, for right now.
• 55:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Say good night everyone and remember it really is all about the joy.
• 55:45
  Maurio Dawson: All about the joy.
• 55:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Bye everyone Bye.
• 55:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Thanks for stopping by.
• 55:52
  Carmen Lezeth: All About the Joy Be better and stay beautiful.
• 55:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Folks have a sweet day.