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INTERVIEW: Tabitha Brown On Purpose, Messages From God, Retiring Her Husband, New Book + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building time time
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  Speaker 2: who celebrating her birthday next week.
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  Speaker 4: I am this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: This weekend, ladies and gentlemen, Tabitha Brown, Welcome.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm amazing. If I was in the bed, i'd be
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  Speaker 4: two people.
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  Speaker 1: I love that hoodie.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Freedom over colde switching? What's that mean?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I spent a very long time code
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  Speaker 4: switching and conforming and that's not freedom. So I no
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  Speaker 4: longer live that way. And so I always tell people, honey,
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  Speaker 4: we got to freedom over colde switching. We'd enough just
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  Speaker 4: as we are, even if we're from the country, even
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  Speaker 4: if we're from the South. It's just a thing. So
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  Speaker 4: I promote that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, I feel like I know you because
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  Speaker 1: I told you when I saw you over the summer.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like when my kids watched taping the Brown all
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  Speaker 5: the time on YouTube. And then you know, my wife
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  Speaker 5: has the cookbooks, the vegan cookbooks around the house, like
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  Speaker 5: she was giving them out of his gifts to people
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  Speaker 5: like you.
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  Speaker 2: And we got to congratulate her on at me as well,
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  Speaker 2: just want to acting congratulations.
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  Speaker 4: It still feels surreal, you know, but I feel grateful
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  Speaker 4: to have one for just like being myself, right, but
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  Speaker 4: something so powerful that it's for children. But it still
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  Speaker 4: feels like it didn't happen. It feels like a dream almost.
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  Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is there's another side of that
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  Speaker 4: that it feels completely normal. It's like a it's a
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  Speaker 4: it's a weird.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling, it's yours.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like, oh, this is what God intended
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  Speaker 4: for my life. Absolutely, But the other side of it
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  Speaker 4: is like, did that really happen?
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  Speaker 1: So? But yeah, how did the Internet change your life?
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  Speaker 4: Shoot, honey in every way? You know, I was, I
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  Speaker 4: still am an actress, but for a long time, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was pursuing acting and nobody really knew me from
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  Speaker 4: you know, acting, And I started doing content doing you know, videos,
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  Speaker 4: not because I wanted to, but I had a dream
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  Speaker 4: and God spoke to me and told me started doing videos.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, no, I don't want to do that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, But I was also trying to live a
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  Speaker 4: life of obedience. And I started and nobody was watching
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, well, God, you told me to
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  Speaker 4: do this, and ain't nobody. Ain't nobody showing up on
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  Speaker 4: these videos to watch? Why do you have me doing this?
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  Speaker 4: And I started in August of twenty seventeen doing videos
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  Speaker 4: and by December thirtieth, one of my videos went viral.
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  Speaker 3: Which one it was?
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  Speaker 4: It was a TTLA. I was eating a sandwich in
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  Speaker 4: my car because I was driving Uber and because I
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  Speaker 4: was on disability for over you because I was so sick.
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  Speaker 4: And when I started feeling better after going vegan, I
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  Speaker 4: started driving Uber and I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I had had a job before. I didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: get stuck back in the nine to five. So I
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  Speaker 4: told my husband, I was like, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna go drive Uber. We live in LA. I'm probably
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  Speaker 4: get discovered in my car. In my mind, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna, you know, pick up a producer or director
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  Speaker 4: or something. And I stopped by Whole Foods because I
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  Speaker 4: dropped somebody off and I was like, I'm go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and get me a little breakfast and because I'm still
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  Speaker 4: a new vegan at that time, and I got a
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  Speaker 4: sandwich and did a review on it because I was
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  Speaker 4: my videos. When I first started, I was just telling
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  Speaker 4: people I'm going vegan. When I find new vegan options,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna share it. And by the time I
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  Speaker 4: got home in the video had like fifty some thousand views,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, wait a minute, who watching.
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  Speaker 1: This video was before.
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  Speaker 4: Listen? I love that's my nephew. But the next morning
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  Speaker 4: had like over one hundred thousand views, and I was like.
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  Speaker 4: I told my husband, I said, I think I'm going
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  Speaker 4: viral was and I was like and he was like,
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  Speaker 4: what that means. I was like, I don't know. And
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  Speaker 4: four days later, Whole Foods reached out. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: we saw your video because I got the you know,
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  Speaker 4: sandwich from there, and they wanted to partner with me.
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  Speaker 4: I became their brand ambassador and wow, you want to
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  Speaker 4: do so many campaigns and it ain't It's been on
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  Speaker 4: ever since then.
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  Speaker 3: Now, why have you switched to vegan for people? I
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  Speaker 3: don't know?
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  Speaker 4: So I got sick. So January of twenty sixteen, I
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  Speaker 4: woke up one morning and I had this headache in
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  Speaker 4: the back of my head. And I had a car
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  Speaker 4: accident in high school, so I'm used to like waking
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  Speaker 4: up sometime in the back of my neck is tied
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  Speaker 4: and sometime it goes into my head. So I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was one of those episodes. But this headache rested
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  Speaker 4: in the back of my head for a year and
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  Speaker 4: seven months wow, and it started to, you know, affect
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  Speaker 4: my body, and so I started to fall when I
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  Speaker 4: will walk as a woman. Everything was all out of whack.
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  Speaker 4: I just did not feel well. So every time I
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  Speaker 4: went to the doctor, they were doing so many tests.
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  Speaker 4: They was in myris trying to figure out what is wrong.
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  Speaker 4: So they told me. They was like, we know it's
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  Speaker 4: something autoimmune that's attacking your body. We just can't figure
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  Speaker 4: it out. I lost my vision for a day. It
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  Speaker 4: was a really bad time for me, and I took
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  Speaker 4: every drug the doctor offered me. I was like a
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  Speaker 4: guinea pig because you are desperate to feel better, and
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  Speaker 4: if anything, it probably made me worse. Nothing was working,
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  Speaker 4: and so my daughter came home from school one day
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  Speaker 4: and she was like, Mommy, we saw this documentary at
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  Speaker 4: school today. I think you should watch it. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you know teenagers, honey, but it ain't
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  Speaker 4: every day they come home and tell you to watch
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  Speaker 4: the documentary. And so it was what they helped on Netflix,
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  Speaker 4: and so I was like, you know what, let's watch
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  Speaker 4: it together as a family. So I watched it. When
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  Speaker 4: they started talking about not all diseases or hereditary sometime
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  Speaker 4: you can eat the same thing in your family that
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  Speaker 4: will cause the same disease in your bloodline. And so
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  Speaker 4: that was kind of like a light bulb moment for me.
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  Speaker 4: My mama died at fifty one of a rare disease.
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  Speaker 4: My daddy is now seventy two, but he's the oldest
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  Speaker 4: man that ever lived in my family.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: People get sick at young ages in my family, and
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  Speaker 4: they died at young ages in my family. And the
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  Speaker 4: only thing I could think of that we had in
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  Speaker 4: common was how we ate. Now, I wasn't a bad
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  Speaker 4: eater because I was in LA but I wasn't eating
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  Speaker 4: to feel well. I was eating to look a certain way,
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  Speaker 4: which is is also a sickness and.
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  Speaker 3: So a certain way.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not exactly. I wasn't eating to like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm me put this in my body so I can
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  Speaker 4: be well. I was like, oh, let me put this
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  Speaker 4: in my body so I don't gain weight, you understand.
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  Speaker 4: So so but I said it wasn't you know, a
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  Speaker 4: terrible you know, I haven't eaten red metal pork since
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  Speaker 4: I was fifteen, and I was like, okay, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: allergic to the every like most people. But I also
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  Speaker 4: was like, it's the only thing I haven't tried. So
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  Speaker 4: I told my husband, let's do like a thirty day
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  Speaker 4: began challenge. So for thirty days and so on, like
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  Speaker 4: day ten, the headache I had every day for a
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  Speaker 4: year and seven months disappeared. Wow, and I was like, wait, min,
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  Speaker 4: I'm onto something. And after that, every day started geting
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  Speaker 4: energy again because I had chronic the tea and I
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  Speaker 4: had chronic panic attacks because when you sick and you
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  Speaker 4: know something is wrong but the doctor said, well we
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  Speaker 4: can't figure it out, it makes you have anxiety and depression.
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  Speaker 4: And so I started getting energy again because I would
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  Speaker 4: sleep all day all night, like I would just be
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  Speaker 4: exhausted all the time, and so energy start coming back.
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  Speaker 4: My head, you know, was feeling better. I was starting
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  Speaker 4: to feel like myself again. And so that day when
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  Speaker 4: day thirty came, I told my husband, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: this is gonna be my life. You know, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: go vegan. He was like, well, tomorrow we need a
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  Speaker 4: piece of chicken tab like.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 4: But I always tell people that part because sometimes the
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  Speaker 4: journey that may change your life or save your life,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta be willing to go on and a loan.
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  Speaker 4: And so I was like, all right, and so I
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  Speaker 4: ain't never looked back.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I got so many questions. Number one, you
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  Speaker 5: said something earlier about God spoke to you. What does
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  Speaker 5: God sound.
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  Speaker 4: Like for me? Yeah, so I always tell people I
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  Speaker 4: get to asked that a lot. Now I am gives
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  Speaker 4: it in a different way than most people. So for me,
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  Speaker 4: I can hear like your voice, I can hear sometimes
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  Speaker 4: it sounds like a flutter, like a hummingbird would be
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  Speaker 4: close to my ears. So it's like a wind and
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  Speaker 4: it's a flutter, but you can hear sound in it.
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  Speaker 4: I can see it, I can dream it. I'm a seer,
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  Speaker 4: but in my dreams, like my dreams can speak to
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  Speaker 4: me and things come to pass. So that's what it
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  Speaker 4: sounds like for me. For most people who are always
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  Speaker 4: trying to figure out is this God speaking to me?
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  Speaker 4: Is this just my thoughts? I will tell you that
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  Speaker 4: when you think of something, you'll think of it and
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  Speaker 4: you may lose the thought later right may not even
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  Speaker 4: come back to you. But when God is speaking to you,
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  Speaker 4: when he's putting something inside of you, it won't let
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  Speaker 4: you rest. It'll keep coming back. And so that's how
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  Speaker 4: you can kind of decipher. And then sometimes he will
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  Speaker 4: use a voice that's familiar to you, like for me,
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  Speaker 4: when my mama was sick, she lost her voice because
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  Speaker 4: she had ls or at the end she could either
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  Speaker 4: whisper or we'd have to read her lips. So I
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  Speaker 4: would be at her house on the other side of
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  Speaker 4: the house, in her office, and she would be in
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  Speaker 4: her bedroom in the hospital bed, and just as clear
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  Speaker 4: as I can hear, you know, us having this conversation,
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  Speaker 4: I would hear her call me like tab and I'll
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  Speaker 4: go in there and be like, momy, you called me.
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  Speaker 4: And she looked at me like, nah, I call you, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like I can't. She can't. But that's how God will
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  Speaker 4: get your attention sometimes, not to scare you. Now, I've
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  Speaker 4: only heard this one time, and this is when I
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  Speaker 4: was living in Greensboro, North Carolina, when I had kind
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  Speaker 4: of given up on my dreams and thought I couldn't
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  Speaker 4: have them anymore. I woke up one morning it felt
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  Speaker 4: like an earthquake had happened in Greensboro. Like my bed
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  Speaker 4: shook me awake, and I heard a voice that sounded
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  Speaker 4: like thunder, and the boy said, this is not the
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  Speaker 4: life I plan for you. And I got on knees
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  Speaker 4: of us started praying. I was like, now, God, if
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  Speaker 4: this is you speaking to me, I need you to
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  Speaker 4: show me a sign.
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  Speaker 1: Just shook the house.
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  Speaker 4: But listen, I woke up like this. I had never
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  Speaker 4: heard that before and it was scary, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: either you got to show me today that this is you.
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  Speaker 4: Ioran to time my husband take me to the hospital
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  Speaker 4: because I thought I was losing it. And when you gifted,
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  Speaker 4: sometime they do feel like you're crazy and other people
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  Speaker 4: think that it's well. But now of course I know like,
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  Speaker 4: oh no, this is just my gift and I don't
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  Speaker 4: hide it anymore. I don't straight away from it. I
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  Speaker 4: wrote it buy it in my first book because I
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  Speaker 4: wanted people to know, like, this is me. If you
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  Speaker 4: want to rock with tail, honey, this is who I
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  Speaker 4: really am. I don't hide that part of me anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So what was the other sign that God shows you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? So later that day, because I had kind of
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  Speaker 4: given up on my acting dreams because I had a baby,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, me and my husband's working jobs. We
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  Speaker 4: was living in North Carolina, So you have a baby
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  Speaker 4: early in a small town, you pretty much are like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you go get this regular job and y'all going to
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  Speaker 4: get a house and cars and that's gonna be it.
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  Speaker 4: And so in Greensboro, North Carolina, where no acting or
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  Speaker 4: TV shows and nothing was happening. Later today, we was
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  Speaker 4: on our way tomorrow and on the radio, Bustin Brown
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  Speaker 4: was the DJ, and he came on and was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: I just got a new TV show on the WB
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  Speaker 4: network and I'm looking for a female co host. I'm
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  Speaker 4: holding out And I was like, that's my sign that
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  Speaker 4: I gotta go to this audition. And I want to
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  Speaker 4: say that audition I booked. The job was the first
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  Speaker 4: audition I ever had for a time.
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  Speaker 1: God.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've been pursuing it ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: When you say you have gifts, so are you clairvoyant?
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  Speaker 1: Are you like a medium? No?
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  Speaker 4: I call it I'm a seeer. Right, It's just you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's a gift that God gave me. I was born
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  Speaker 4: with it in that way. Yeah, my whole life, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like we all have discernment, we just don't all
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  Speaker 4: lean into it, right. But for me, I, as a
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  Speaker 4: little girl would dream about people I've never met before
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  Speaker 4: and wake up and tell my mom and dad. They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I such and such, and they'd be like, that person
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  Speaker 4: been dead twenty years. Like you would never know that person, right.
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  Speaker 4: I can remember being in my grandfather's funeral, but they're like,
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  Speaker 4: you were ten months old. It's no way for you
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  Speaker 4: to remember that. It's just I don't know, and I
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  Speaker 4: can't control it. That's the thing. It just happens. Like
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  Speaker 4: I can be talking to you and something can just appear.
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  Speaker 4: I can see and it may be for you, or
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  Speaker 4: it may be to protect me. It just depends. But
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  Speaker 4: I have no control over that.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely my Now, I'll tell you later.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, so you know North Carolina?
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  Speaker 4: Uh huh?
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  Speaker 2: So now you pick up your family and you move
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  Speaker 2: to La Yes, I was that conversation with your husband
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  Speaker 2: and your child and let's.
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  Speaker 3: Just go to l A, a place we don't know. You
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  Speaker 3: gotta find a new job and.
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  Speaker 1: It's good Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because at first my husband's like,
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  Speaker 4: so in ninety eight, I moved to California in pursuit
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  Speaker 4: of acting. But I wasn't in LA and I was
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  Speaker 4: like in Orange County, and I didn't tell my husband.
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  Speaker 4: He was my boyfriend at the time, Like how bad
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  Speaker 4: it was. I ain't telling nobody. I was renting the room
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  Speaker 4: from somebody who was like taking all my money. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm like young, like nineteen, I really want
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  Speaker 4: to get this dream out of me and I want
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  Speaker 4: to do something. And so our plan was for him
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  Speaker 4: to move out a couple months later, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: then we would get our own place. But when he
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: moved out and saw how I was living, he was like, no,
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  Speaker 4: this is crazy. He's like, you're working two jobs and survive.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't nowhere near LA. You're not pursuing acting. He
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  Speaker 4: was like, we need to move back to North Carolina
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  Speaker 4: so that you can. We can say, but money, because
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  Speaker 4: it's cheaper. He was like, we can stay for one year,
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  Speaker 4: then move back to LA so you can really pursue
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  Speaker 4: your dreams. That one year turned into five years and
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  Speaker 4: a forgotten dream right until I had that experience that morning.
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  Speaker 4: So when I told my husband after I worked that
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  Speaker 4: job for like a year, I was like, now, it's
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  Speaker 4: time for us to move back to LA. He was like, nah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm working there. He was like, we got this baby,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he had I also had a step daughter
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  Speaker 4: who was older. And he was like, we got we
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  Speaker 4: got you know, responsibilities now, Like we can't just get
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  Speaker 4: up and go to LA. And he had just built
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  Speaker 4: like a music studio in the house. So he was like, no,
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  Speaker 4: we were good. We had good jobs for Greensborough. No,
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  Speaker 4: but he just loved like making music. And so I
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  Speaker 4: was like, well, listen, I can I can go out there,
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  Speaker 4: but like I can feel it calling me and I
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  Speaker 4: can come back and forth. He was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 4: we're not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine those arguments you're go with.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what money I thought I had to
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  Speaker 4: I can be by coastal okay and go back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I was thinking, but we saved
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  Speaker 4: up like eight thousand dollars. Took us some months and
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  Speaker 4: we moved to LA And we first got there, we
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  Speaker 4: was living in Barwen Hills and my husband, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we're both from the same hometown. You know, we're from Eden.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bear small town in North Carolina. And our apartment.
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  Speaker 4: I had flew out there to find our apartment because
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  Speaker 4: back then my husband used to be afraid to fly,
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  Speaker 4: you know, people from the country. They'd be like, I
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  Speaker 4: ain't getting on no plane, you know. So I had went
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  Speaker 4: back and forth to find us a place and I
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  Speaker 4: had found a cute this this spot was cute to me, right.
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  Speaker 4: But it did have the bars on the window, because
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  Speaker 4: most of them do in La right. So, but we
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  Speaker 4: weren't used to that. But I didn't tell him because
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: in my mind I thought it was nice and it was.
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: It did turn out to be nice.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Was he able to bring his gun with him? He did?
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: Actually, okay, you know what he did.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: He did Carolina Garden.
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: No, he did. But when we got that he was hot.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: He was like you what we was like right off Crenshaw.
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: She was yeah. He was like, what the hey we
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: got a door to I was like, babe, I didn't
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: scoped it out. This is a good area, I promise you.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: And because there was you know, that was when the
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: reality show balw When Hills was out. Remember that, I said,
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: we live in Balwen Hills. It's just that we don't
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: live in View Park. But where we parked, we could
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: see the view like I was trying to sell it right,
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: But he got used to it over time. But you know,
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: in the beginning, we was a little we was at
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: odds for a while, but you know, we saved there
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: for five years and we loved it.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: So that's I see now I hear the story. I
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: get a glimpse of why I retire and your husband
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: was important to you.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean we came out there and
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: after what the first like year or so, that's when
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: he was like, I think I'm I'm gonna join LAPD.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: And I was like, because where we from, you're not
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: no police officer, Like we don't even trust police officers
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: right even in La too. But he was like, I
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: met some like cool black officers that looked like me.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: They won't judge me. It was like cool, like they
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: was like real people. And he felt like he could
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: do wouldn't make a difference. But then also he thought, Okay,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: this is a good career. I'll have a good salary
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: and benefits and you can pursue your dream. And that's
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: that's what he did.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: Well, one of the moments that we all saw that
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: went viral was when you retired your husband, and you know,
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: Wendy Williams had made some statements about you and the
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: way you responded.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: You responded with such grace and such love. It was
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: almost like, I hope you heal absolutely moment. Do you
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: respond like that always in.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: This season in my life? Yes? Yeah. I mean the
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: old tab probably would have had that get back spirit, right,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: But she didn't even know me, and I don't know
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: her other than knowing her from you know her her career.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: But you can also tell when somebody is hurt. And
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: we've all been through things that caused us to project
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: and feel a certain way. But I'm not going to
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: exhaust energy and give anybody control over me to anger me.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: So, but also I just love people despite what anybody
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: have to say about me. There's so many people now
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: that that hate me, that don't know me, but I
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: love them. It also makes me want to love harder
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: in the world because people are hurting. Right. You know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of people think that I'm fake because I'm
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: nice and I'm like, I'm a kind, I'm compassionate. I
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: held my mama's hand while she died, like I've seen
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: death so many times, Like I have also almost lost
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: my life. Why would I not be happy and joyful?
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I'm still here, right, So it hurts my heart for
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: other people when I know that they're just hurting and
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: they don't mean any harm in a way that they
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: it's really they're trying to make themselves feel better projecting, right,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: they're projecting, and so the harm is really they're doing
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: it to themselves because they're not instead of projecting, you
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: should be trying to heal yourself and get what you
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: need to feel better. But I don't know.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Because you get a lot of flak for it, because
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: you know what it took me during that time. As
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: people don't understand love. Yeah, right, you love your husband.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: You were financially fine, and you can make sure that
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: he's okay, you know, And it doesn't matter if he's
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a man, he's a woman or what he is. You
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: love me and you had the opportunity to retire man
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and men do it for women all the time. So
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it. So did you get a lot
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: of flat for it?
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean a lot of people had something
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: to say about it, but that's their opinion. I don't
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I don't care. That ain't my business. But I also
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: realized that a lot of people don't understand partnership. Right,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I've been my husband twenty six years, amazing, more than
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: half my life. Right, most people don't even understand that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: How did he feel?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Felt?
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: He felt amazing. But after what people don't know is
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I had been trying to retire my husband for like
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: two years. We had enough money, and he was like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: that money came too quit, bab, I don't want to
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: do that to.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: You now, just in case.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like, nah, I know one plus one
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: equal two. We don't know. Because he also has watched
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: me in Hollywood over twenty years not get jobs for
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: six months or two years or whatever. He was like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: we can't. We can't count on this new money, right.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And so I was like, Babe, I promise you I
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: got the amount of money that we have always said
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: that we have this amount of money in the bank,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: tax has been paid. We don't owe nobody that you
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: will retire. And he was like, all right, let me
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: think about it. He took a leave first. He just
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: was like I don't want that on your back, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: even though he has a nonprofit, but it wasn't gonna
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: make the you know, coming straight down, he won't gonna
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: make the kind of money he was making before. And
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I was like, but now you can build it. Now,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: you can do all the things you wanted to do. Right.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: So it took him a while, but afterwards. Now listen,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: right now, what time is that they might be on
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the golf course? Okay, listen, he worked with his kids
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: three four days a week, but he'd be on that
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: golf course. He is, he is feeling it now. He's
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: always heard about it, absolutely well.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: The trustee has for you, you know, because as a man,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: you know, they always tell us our job as the
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: protect Yeah, and to provide.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that we forget that. We're a unit.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You've been together twenty six years. Me and my wife
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: been together twenty six years.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Ohner, South Carolina from Yeah kids, you know.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So it's like I understand that. And it don't matter
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: who make.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: It, if one of us make it, we in it together.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: We in it together.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I mean he carried me. I used to have odd
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and end jobs. You know, I would go work in maces.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I'll go working you know, calls and I would go
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and I did CNA work. I would do all kinds
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: of jobs to make sure because we are partners. So
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I would pay like utilities and stuff. I'm like, oh,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: let me take the kids school shop and let me
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: do this because you're gonna handle the big bills. That's partnership, right,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: And so he did that for fifteen years.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Man, when I was getting fired from radio and it
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: was too proud to go collect unemployment checks, my wife
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: was the one working, yeah, paying the bills.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: We was getting a victed.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: She was the one going in front of the judge
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: and tell them why we shouldn't get a victed.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: So I overstand absolutely.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what partners do. But so people who had,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: you know, problems with it, they ain't never had real partnership.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: That's right. So let's talk about this book.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I did a new thing, your new book, Yes, all
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: thirty days, the Living Free.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: What is living free?
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: To Tabitha Brown, Well, you know freedom over coad switch
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: and right, we talked about that. But living free is
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: like taking the opportunity to do something even if it
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: scares you, right, just doing something new. Right. I started
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: doing this challenge in twenty fourteen. I was really just
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: in search of, like getting to know myself better because
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I still was not free, and I would do something new,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: whether it be with my kids or by myself, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: just to see how it would open my mind and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: how it would make me feel. And so I did
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: that over the years, and I would always, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: learn something new about myself. Like I discovered my love
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: for hiking, and I was like, oh shoot, I never
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: would have thought that I would love hiking. And then
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: now it's something I have continued to do over the years.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: And so I was like, if I do this again,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I think I want to write a book. So last
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: year I did it for thirty days and I journaled
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: it and made it into a book. And my hope
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: was that other people want to, you know, live free
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and try new things and the other thing about freedom.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: In order to like really go out and do something new,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: that's the only way you're gonna know if you love
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: something or you don't like it, right, you have to
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: be willing to be like, I don't care, I just
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: want to find out. Let me just see, right. So
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: it also could be something as simple as I'm gonna
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: word my hair different right now, I'm doing a you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: my hair name is Donna. So I'm doing while I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: on tour. I'm making a new hair style every day.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: He says. His name is Donna.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, her name Donna like Donna. Oh, it's just Donna. Well,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I named after Don.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: King put together don King today.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: But she got her name because when I was I
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: did the big chopping when she was growing back. One
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: night I was cooking live and it was like straight
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: up in the top. I was like, why's that piece
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: of hair, you know, sticking straight up looking like Don King.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm about to call her Donna, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: it's stuff.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It's stuck.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I love that you dedicated your new book to you.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Why was that important to do?
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Cause I'm the one who made the decision to choose myself,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: sure right, And I made the decision to stop being
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: afraid and to live my life my way and to
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: try new things. And the biggest thing I ever did
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: for thirty days was go vegan and it saved my life.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: And I was like, girl, this for youtab. I prayed
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: that I forever and always do new things every day.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I want to do that for the rest of my life,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: cooking like I want to.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to I did a new thing,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: but you keep bringing up the vegan thing. Cooking with spirit,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: what does that mean? Because I've heard cooking with love spirit.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Cooking from the spirit, it means you you cook from
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: the spirit. I don't do measurements, so I cooked. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: just throw it together. That's how most people cook.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: That's why so money it wasn't healthy now.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: But that's the thing. I'm also sought free most of
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the time, you know, because I know my family dynamic, right,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: so all my seasonings are sought free. But yeah, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: we cooked from the spirit, you know a little bit
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: of that. And when your spirits say, oh that's enough.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: But also you you know what you like and you
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: know what you don't like, Well, don't put the thing
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: you don't like in there. Cook from your spirit.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, you know so many people listening, right,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and how did you know not to give up? Right?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Because I'm sure there's somebody listening right now that's been
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: trying music for ten years and it didn't work. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: somebody that's trying acting it didn't work. Somebody's trying to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: be in a chef, somebody's trying to be an author,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: somebody is trying to do something online and creating videos
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and nobody's watching, and they probably said I felt I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: got a sign. Yeah, when did you tell them to say,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: maybe that's not the sign and maybe the change or
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: you know, how do you tell somebody to continue to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: keep doing what they're doing because you could have give
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: up so many times?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would never really tell anybody to give up,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: right if you think God has given you a sign.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Didn't trust the signs. For me, it was always signs,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: and that's confirmation if it won't let you rest, if
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you try to give up and it won't let you.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I tried to give up in Greensborough. I was like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just have to live this, you know, a lot.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I'm working ups, go to this call center, you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: and and we got a nice little house, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: got cars like that's that's We're going to church on Sundays,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: like it's gonna be our regular life. God wouldn't let
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: me stop. He woke me up and it shifted me.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I would see people. I worked at a staffing agency
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: for a while in Greensboro, and I never forget we talking.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Two thousand and three and I had went to I
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: was in the drive through on my lunch break, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: when I got to the window, the little guy was
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: like he's a little white guy. He was like, oh
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: my God. I was like, oh my God, like what
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: we like, what are we doing? He was like, aren't
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you the lady on the on the kids show? I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: was like, now, I work as collective staffing. He was
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: like okay. I said, oh okay. He was like, no,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: you're not. Yes, you're the lady that has a kid.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I ain't got no kids show. I have a kids
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: show now, absolutely. But it was like God was just
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: telling me he sees your destiny. Wow, he sees what's
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: com But I had no like it would happen to
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: me all the time, Me and my husbandhen we first
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: moved to la but this would happen even when we
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: lived in North Carolina. We would go to the mall
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: with our little girls. People would stop us all the
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: time and be like, y'all look like y'all are y'all famous?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: And we're like, we live in Greensburg, we work at ups,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Like what are y'all talking about? But people would just
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: stop and stare and we never understood why. But God
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: would always say, they see your destiny. So it would
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: be signs like that. Then also I would dream and
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I would see these things, and I would tell my husband,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna happen. We're gonna have this house,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: the house I live in now. I describe to a
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: t to my husband to the point we were in
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: escrow on another house and this house just popped up
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: and we was like, let's just go see it. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: had a phone call, so I couldn't walk in the house.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: When he did, he walked in the house, he came
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: back out. He was like, this is our house. This
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: this the house you described we're gonna we're gonna get
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: this house. You might as well call the people and
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: tell me close the ass grown other and like we're
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: gonna follo out as grown that this is our house.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: I walked in. I was like, dang, this is the house.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Of course, that's the house we live in now. But
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: those are the signs that we have to not ignore.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: But also we have to kind of ignore the noise
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: of people who tell you can't. But also we have
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: to be honest with ourselves. If you are not really
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: doing the work for the dream that you have, is
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it really your dream? Right? Because sometimes it might be
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: a goal. And the difference between a goal and a
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: dream is a goal is something that you create. A
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: dream is deposited inside of you. God does that. You
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: don't make up a dream, It lives inside of you.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: So be honest with yourself. Do you want it because
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you see somebody else with it? It would look cool
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: to you? Do you just want to make money? Or
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: is it something that won't let you rest.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I have a chapter in my first book called fuck
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: your dreams if it's not because a lot of times
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: we see things working for other people.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That's why we think that's our dream.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Like, no, that's not your dream, that's something that God
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: had for somebody else.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: But what do you find your dream?
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Absolutely never never compare your life and absolutely don't try
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: to get it because somebody else got it. You could
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: be inspired by anybody, but you got to set your
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: own path. But your dream that has to live inside
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: of you, because then it won't ever feel like You'll
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: have moments because I definitely have moments of like, Lord,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: when it's going to happen or you feel stuck, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: it still won't make you give up on it. You'll
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: still be like I gotta figure it out, like, well,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: what are you calling me to do?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Lord?
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: But also for me, I only wanted to be an
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: actor for so long. That was my goal, and God
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: had to really like sit me down and say, listen,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: you can be an actor. You can you can be
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: a series regular, you could be in films. You can
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: do that tall, but let me show you what I
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: can do. And that's when the overflow came. I still
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: am a actress, but I'm also a CEO of my
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: own business, multiple businesses, right, I have multiple partnerships. I
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: have two New York Times bestsellers. Right, it's so many
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: different things that I do now that I was keeping
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: myself in a box because I only had one thing.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Then when I was like this thing that lives inside
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: of me, the dreams I've had. I didn't just get
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: that from being an actor. I got it from doing
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: whatever God called me to do. So when I gave
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: him my life, that meant I'm going to live my
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: life however you tell me God, And that opened the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: door for me to allow him to bless me in
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: the way he has.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: How important is being of service?
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: It's so important.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I live a life of obedience, but I feel like
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be for people. I feel like that's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: what I was called to do, to love people, to
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: be compassionate, to bring joy, help people laugh, also help
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: people cry who need that. I understand that's a superpower
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: to have that everybody doesn't have to control somebody's emotions
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: and to help them, And that's my assignment. I believe that,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: and God has set me on a path and I
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: will forever do that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You got to tell me your morning routine, Tabitha.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I need to know mentally, spiritually, emotionally, what do you
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: do in the morning to get grounded?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Drink water, a glass of water in the Holy water.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: What is it out the line?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: It's a regular old filter water, but that is a
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: part of it. I drink. I drink water in the morning.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I pray in the morning. Of course when I work out,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: most times I work out in silence because that's when
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I hear a lot and so I allow God to,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you know, just pour into me whatever I need in
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: that moment for that day, maybe even for that hour.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you'll see me do videos of them in the gym.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: It's because He just gave it to me. But yeah,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: but I spend my my quiet time in the mornings.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I do self checking throughout my day, and I always
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: in my night with myself and make sure I'm not
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: taking nothing into my sleep like hearing it, you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: from the day, like something I might be holding onto,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: because I don't want to be heavy in my mind
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: in my sleep.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: How do you do that and navigate social media? Because
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: social media can be one of the most toxic places
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: on the planet. So how do you spend time on
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: social media but still be able to disconnect, to reconnect
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: with yourself?
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I think because the things that I look at, a
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: lot of positive stuff show up on mind. But I
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: also if it's if it's toxic or if it's negative,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: it ain't my business. I don't want I don't want
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: no part of it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I look for joy. I'm intentional with that. I'm intentional
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: with spreading that. You know, when people come to my
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: my page, whichever one it is, it's gonna be joy,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be laughter, it's gonna be inspiration. It's enough
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: negative in the world. I don't want to be part
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: of it. So I'm just intentional with it, and so
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: it don't bother me.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Can we talk about some of these chapters. Yeah, do
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: something new with check your triggers.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Do something new and check your triggers. Absolutely. So I
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: had my first mammogram when I was doing my thirty days,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: and my first one was supposed to be during the pandemic,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: but you know how everybody counseled their appointments, so I
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: never did it. I was like, oh, I put it
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: off for so long. I was like, let me go
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: ahead and do me a mammogram since I'm doing a
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: new thing now. When I go to the doctor, I'm
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: always triggered, just because I was sick for so long,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: so just a regular checkup to me is triggering. But
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I always be like, all right, girl, you all right.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: You know that's a you gotta check yourself. So when
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I went in from a mammogram, it was a normal thing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: They called me a couple of days later and said, hey,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: we want to take a closer look. We saw something
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: in the image, and I was like, okay, but they
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: did say, you know, don't be alarm, this is this
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: is a normal kind of routine thing. So I go
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: back in. So they did a closer look, and before
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: they did it, the nurse told me she was like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: if they see something and their concern, they'll ask for
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: ultrasound after and I was like okay. So they did
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: the image and they came back in and it was
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: like multiple doctors. They was like, we saw something, we
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: would like to take an ultrasound. So now I'm like, well,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: she said if they was concerned, they want to do it,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you know, ultrasound. So I was like okay, and my
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: husband was in the lobby. I was like, have my
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: husband come back here so he knows why it's taking
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: so long. And so I told him and I could
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: see he kind of got like a little you know
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: trigger as well. So they did the ultrasound and then
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: they you know, took us in the office and they
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: was like, there's there's definitely a mask that we see
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna need to do a biopsy. And they
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: couldn't do the biopsy. It was like a couple of weeks,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: like maybe two weeks. And this was during the first
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: time I was nominated for Emmy last year, so I
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: don't I had to go through you know, press and
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: go to the Emmys knowing that I had to go
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: get this spot the day after the Emmys, and so
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: the old Tab would have got online and researched everything
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: about you know, mass and breast cancer, and I would
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: have told myself it's cancer. I would have went into
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: straight on panic attack everything. But the moment that I
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: started thinking about it, I was like, no, Tab, we
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: gotta check this trigger. You can't just diagnose yourself. You
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: can't start thinking the worst. You can't go back to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: your old habits. Right. They said it could be something
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: or it could be nothing. Let's wait to find out
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: what it is before you have any kind of reaction.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: And in that moment, I realized I really been doing
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the work on myself.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: It made me proud. I was like, I'm really on
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: the healing journey. I've come a long way. Because it's
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: rough when you've been sick, and it's a real trigger, right,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: So you check your triggers, but you can still do
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: something new. So that's where that came from. And when
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I went ahead to biopsy it was nothing.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Is it better to just stay in that gray area
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: when things like that happen, When somebody says it could
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: be something or it can be nothing, of course you'd
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: be like, well, I'm hoping there's nothing, yeah, right, or
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: you might be like, well, it's probably something, isn't it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Just to stay in Yeah, I mean in my mind,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't gonna claim nothing, so of
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: course I'm gonna say, oh it ain't. You know, the
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: name of Jesus ain't gonna be nothing. Right, But in
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: being in reality you wanna. For me, I was like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay in this. I'm gonna listen to what
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: they said. It could be something, could be nothing. I'm
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: gonna claim nothing. But for most people, if they're not
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: there yet in their faith, then stay in that middle
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: ground until you have evidence of what.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It is that's right.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Now another chapter, do something that breaks the rules but
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: not the law.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Oh so I tell people that all the time, Like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: you know, some rules are said by us, you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: by people as well as laws.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Right, But your kids come back with you all the time,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Mommy said, break the rules.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: It's not exactly exactly, but I talk about this in
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: the book that you know. I had got invited to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: a party, you know, and it was a strict dress
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: code where they wanted you to wear black. I don't
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: like wearing black, and this is about as black as
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: a get for me. I love color it makes me
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: happy when I wear like all black, it makes me
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: feel weird. Yeah, I don't know, like even at funerals,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: like in my family we wear a lot of colors
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: or we were white, but it just makes me feel
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: a little I don't know, maybe sad. And I realize
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that if I do wear I gotta have like a
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: proper color my lips or something. I don't know, but
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to wear black to
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: this thing. I gotta figure something out. So I found
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: like I had this it was like a blazer, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: it was the background was black, but they had a
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: bunch of colors and patters on it, and I wore
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: like some black bill a bottomed pants. Got there and
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a lot of other people had more black, and so
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I was like, this is why we can break the
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: rules sometime. You know. I could said okay, I'm we're
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: all black and being uncomfortable all night and then got
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: there and being mad, like look at other people. They
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: ain't wear what they said. We're supposed to wear it, right,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: So that's what I mean by that, sometime we can
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: break the rules. Just don't break the law.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: So you ain't never gonna follow in a dress code.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: If it's an all white party and nothing.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: You can ye, but yeah, I mean I would wear it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: But it's gonna have to have a little something that
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: make me feel like tap, you know, because I also
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: want to go in and be myself, you know, So
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: do something.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: That requires you to face your losses. That's a powerful one.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: So when I you know, I had a restaurant, right
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: and when I had my restaurant, it was a partnership,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: and we had a lot of problems with the building.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: And so because the kill my Name is the restaurant
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: in Chicago that I fell in love with. So when
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: he came to l A, I was like, Oh, I
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: partnered with you in an open a restaurant. I didn't
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: know the restaurant business, but this building gave us a
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: lot of issues, and so we ultimately had to to close.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: And so I was like, oh man, it felt like
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: a loss to me because I had had, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: so much happening. People would come in. I would people
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: come from all over to just meet me at the restaurant.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: And I wasn't there every day, but on the weekends
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: or whenever I could, I would go and just be
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: there all day to make sure, I got to see
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: people when they came, and so we ended up having
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: to shut it down, and I was like really kind
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: of hurt about, you know, for a while, and I
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: really couldn't talk about it because were having legal problems
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: with the you know, the building on it, because it
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: was the whole thing. And so when it was time
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: to do my taxes, I've been carrying this, like, man,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I feel so bad about it. I realized that the
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: loss had really blessed me. I wasn't win, right, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: so I was like, sometimes we got to look at
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: the loss for what it is. Maybe it ain't a loss,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: you know, but also it opened up doors to me
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: and now I have you know, my food and stuff
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: at Target. So I was like, it won't necessary a loss,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: you know, we can't always look at them, you know,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: things like that. So it actually blessed me because I
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: ain't have to pay as.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Much's a little bit. Let's run some of this stuff
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: done now. So you got deals with Target?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Who else? Come on?
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Don't need to be humble in this moment like a
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: rapper right now? You know, you got the tap time
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: booming on YouTube. I got deals with Target? You got
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: book deals?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: What else.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I have my own seasoning with McCormick Spice. I have
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: six of.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Those Fridays with tab and I do have.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Frides having Chance. I do very good Mondays where I
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: blessed small businesses every Monday. Of course, I have my
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: own merch that feel weird to just name everything, but
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I don't even you know, I still do my active thing,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: you know. I launched a production company in a partnership
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: with Stephen Love with may Love Media.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know when I thought about you, uh,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: And I mean I knew you was coming in, but
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: when I heard Eastern Ray talk about how she's just
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: basically tired of dealing with the Hollywood ringham Mo roll
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: and she just wants to do things independent, You're one
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: of the first people that I.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Think about it. Because it took a while for me to.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Even realize you weren't on Nickelodeon or something, because I
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: just would always see you on my TV and then
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: that I was.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Like to turn time time on. I'm like, what channels
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: have on you? She's like, it's YouTube or like YouTube.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't really I didn't even realize.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the YouTube had YouTube originals for a while
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: and they don't have it anymore, but the show is
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: still there while we're searching for a new home for it,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: but we still own it. Right, nobody owns the YouTube
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: didn't own it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: Nickelodeon, Netflix, all the people not beating your door down, well, you.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Know some of them are okay.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: But it has to be right.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I won't say yes to just anything. It's got to
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: be right. There's no people have to understand. You can't
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: own me, right, there's a price that we can partner,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: but you can't. You can't own tab.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And you have all the leverage.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we got all the you know, the
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: data is there, the numbers don't lie, and so like
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: country wa ain't saying. I mean you got to tell
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: me why I need you? So yeah with love.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: No, that's a great thing to say. You can't own me.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: But there is a price department.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: You can always there's always a price department because I'm priceless, Like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: there's no amount of money that you can can say,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: oh this is no out take that, but that ain't
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: what I'm worthy.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: There's a value amount exactly.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: There'sn't there's an amount absolutely, what.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Does it mean?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: To have a free soul, I think, I mean, my
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: life is a kind of example of that. And you,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: you know, you kind of don't let the world in.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Don't worry about what but other folks think about you.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Live your life for you and do it in a
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: way that is graceful, and just let God guide you.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: But don't worry about what somebody think about you. And
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: you know what the world tells you you should be
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: because I know what it's like not to be free,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and being free is the best gift you can give
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: to yourself. That's how we were born to be.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're walking in the purpose that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: God has to you?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, do something that reveals your purpose? Chapter thirty, day thirty.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Do something I don't even know which one that is.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Since day thirty, do something that reveals your purpose in
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the chapter.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Titles, I mean, because I talk about it throughout the book,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember which one that is that reveals
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: your purpose. But I mean, I'm sure we've talked about it,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: like with dreams and being vocal about it. For me,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: it's always that, you know, don't shy away from your gifts,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: be honest, be open about it, even if you think
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: people are gonna think you crazy. People love to call
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: me like a witch or crazy. Like there's a certain
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: amount of people I guess, like on TikTok and stuff,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: they'd be like, oh, that you a witch, you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm not a witch. Right. I know
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: what my purpose is and I know that I have
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: a gift, and I give God all the credit for
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: everything that I am. And so my purpose is to
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: love people, to uplift people, but also help people heal.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: But also if God gives me a word, I'm going
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: to share it. You know, when I was on Club
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: with Shannon, I gave him a word in you know, confidence,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: like off camera. It was his choice to share that.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: And after that people even more was like I told
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: y'all that girl, I told you. And I'm like, that's
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: not being a witsh that is being you know, God's
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: servant and being a vessel. And that's part of my purpose.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: So it is amazing to me that we give everybody
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: credit except for God.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: We will put labels on all types of stuff, always
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: say it's got to be something evil. No, God gives
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you clear vision, give.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: It to all of us. And he also gives all
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: of us the good right, you know that gut feeling.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I always tell people that's called the gift under the tummy.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: That's the good.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Brown. I can be there talking to you forever.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: New book.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: I did a new thing.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you for joining us stage.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Should I end it? How I end my video? Okay,
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Well listen. First of all, thank y'all for having me.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. This is my camera. Yes, honey, Oh
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: you've been there the whole time. Well, lord, well listen,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: thank y'all. Y'all going bout y'all business. All right, have
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: the most amazing day. But even if you can't have
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: a good one, don't you they'll go messing up. Nobody
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: else is here. God, bless y'all. Love y'all.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: It'sakfast, good morning.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.