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Episode 443 w/ Vybz Kartel · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: He is drink chests, motherfucking podcast make si. He's a
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  Speaker 1: legends every queen's rapper. He ain't segregate as your boy
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  Speaker 1: d is new year CE. That's it's time for drink champions.
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  Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would it good? Be hoping swinter
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  Speaker 1: stere be it's your boy in O R E. What up?
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  Speaker 1: It is DJ E f N and this midle tim
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  Speaker 1: crazy ward ye make.
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  Speaker 2: When we started this show, we started it saying we
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  Speaker 2: wanted to pay respect to icons, to legends, to people.
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  Speaker 2: Are the man's of the people. When I tell you,
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  Speaker 2: when we started this show, from the beginning, they said,
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  Speaker 2: get this man. This man is like Jesus. He is
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  Speaker 2: dominated the world of dance hall. Then took a hiatus
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  Speaker 2: for thirteen years. They came back and went even in
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  Speaker 2: the thirteen years, he remained his spots.
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  Speaker 1: Did he come home?
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  Speaker 2: He sell out Madison Square, going in towns too, every
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  Speaker 2: man come to every man Bob.
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  Speaker 1: They call him the world boss.
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  Speaker 2: God son, and right now we are here to salute
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  Speaker 2: and to pay respect.
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  Speaker 1: Give him his flowers while he's here. The one the.
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  Speaker 2: Only you guys will once a part of a group.
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  Speaker 2: It was a group called Vib's Cartel. Correct, yes, or
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  Speaker 2: three of us. But I was the best one.
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  Speaker 1: To one.
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  Speaker 2: Because who got you in the music? I heard it
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  Speaker 2: was your uncles who got you in the music?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you still watch them, d J, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. They were like up and coming artists. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I was the best one, so you'll never
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  Speaker 1: hear of them. Oh even your uncles. Yeah, better than them.
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  Speaker 1: But they inspired me, like seriously though, Like they got
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  Speaker 1: me interested in the art form, you know. I mean
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  Speaker 1: those watching people flowing on beats. That was crazy for
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  Speaker 1: me as a kid like Bombo, you know, And that's
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  Speaker 1: when I got interested.
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  Speaker 2: We got that jay Z clip I want to I
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  Speaker 2: want to yeah, yeah, the cypher sounds.
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  Speaker 1: I want to show you. I want to show you
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  Speaker 1: this si f from yeah yeah yeah yeah. Just didn't
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  Speaker 1: have it, just didn't pop off like that.
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  Speaker 3: I almost had Vibes Cartel Rocket forget it in the
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  Speaker 3: fucking round by him.
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  Speaker 1: No, truly listening to Rtel. Of course I almost had
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  Speaker 1: him moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he tried three different uh cooks really yeah? Oh
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  Speaker 3: what's song somewhere? Uh I need to forget? Yeah I
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  Speaker 3: know yeah yeah cool ass.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. He couldn't come in he sent him.
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  Speaker 4: No, he was there, he came.
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  Speaker 1: Vibes Cartel, Yes, I think he's talking about jay Z
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  Speaker 1: talking about Movado. Nah, he said you but what which
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  Speaker 1: what year was that because remember that took my visa
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  Speaker 1: years ago like oh five.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he might be, but they were mentioning that you
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  Speaker 5: could can come. That's what they were saying.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I side for acing twice. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, Man'm sorry for that's my bread. I've known
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  Speaker 1: him for years. Nigga called me one day, Cartel, how
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  Speaker 1: come you've been speaking for two years and I've never
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  Speaker 1: meant you? Are you a me? That's crazy, man? But
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  Speaker 1: you know Cipher's defense.
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  Speaker 2: Since I've heard of you, it's like a myth that
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  Speaker 2: comes with you, like it's it's like, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you. I'm the other day hanging out with
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  Speaker 2: one of my Jewish friends, and my Jewish friends told me.
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  Speaker 2: He said, it's in Jamaica. This is when he said
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  Speaker 2: that his friends. He said, it's Jesus, Bob and KFC.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you realize how many,
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  Speaker 1: how many people who.
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  Speaker 2: Love you, like every artist that I've ever interviewed? Right,
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  Speaker 2: I go to Twitter and I say, I got this
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  Speaker 2: artist to call it and the cover.
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  Speaker 1: So you got questions with you? I'm not even playing.
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  Speaker 2: With the fans because because they'll be all in my commage.
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  Speaker 1: Do you realize how how popular you are? Yeah? Man,
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  Speaker 1: of course? Right? But like I said, I put in
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  Speaker 1: the work, you know what I mean, and I keep
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  Speaker 1: its real right true, like night Julie. So I just
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  Speaker 1: sing my truth and people that's like that about me.
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  Speaker 1: How was the Grammys? It's amazing. I've never been there before,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I just got out
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  Speaker 1: of christ six months after crazy. I know I'm walking
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  Speaker 1: in the red conta know I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: I know we talked about vibes can tell the name,
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  Speaker 6: But before that, you were Adi Banshan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still Adi is my favorite Dan Soul artists. He
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  Speaker 1: inspired me. Yeah, Ninja my two favorites.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I got that written down there was a car
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  Speaker 2: sert one time when you was young vibes yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Bojo grabbed a mic for you. Yeah, what happened there?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing happened. That's Butcherbanton man. I mean, I was angry
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  Speaker 1: and happy.
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  Speaker 4: And funny enough.
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  Speaker 1: He gave me one of the most profound how would
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  Speaker 1: I put it in advice in the industry, because back then,
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  Speaker 1: when I just came out, I used to flow very hard,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: it went over people's heads, especially with all the fans
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  Speaker 1: because I was just coming out, and Butcherbanton was like,
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  Speaker 1: own boy, your.
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  Speaker 4: Bud, what don't those need you to slow it down?
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  Speaker 1: I said, that makes sense, And that's when I think
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  Speaker 1: I found that that balance between the art and commerce,
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  Speaker 1: because you still need our ship to be sold, right,
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  Speaker 1: still need people to Yeah, so big for that. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm still.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I've seen a guy
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  Speaker 2: on the internet have this liquor yeah and say this
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  Speaker 2: should be illegal.
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  Speaker 1: That's so let's let's let's subscribe to people. Which one
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  Speaker 1: is this? Oh? This is the rampin shot. That's the
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  Speaker 1: record you got with you, spie, because we named each
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  Speaker 1: flavor one of my hit songs. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: This is my This is the Electric This is dangerous
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  Speaker 1: as well. But my favorite one is the Fever. Uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: But it's smooth.
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  Speaker 2: It's like vodka you say, sixty two percent?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It takes her off your chest. This
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  Speaker 1: is crazy, man, this fever. Which one is that one?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: This is unstoppable okay, and you can't let any of
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  Speaker 1: its fill because it's unmoppable. That's that's how dangerous this
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  Speaker 1: one is. So he still fire this one. This one
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  Speaker 1: is mostly for the ladies. Ladies and anyone can have that,
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  Speaker 1: but trust me, I recommend the Fever and the unstoppable something.
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  Speaker 6: See how you just said unstoppable and unmarkable. Since when
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  Speaker 6: you start being a DJ, like that in your mind
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  Speaker 6: and you always play with.
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  Speaker 1: You, always play with words, always play you know this? Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What age? Since I was
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  Speaker 1: born man? Like that's it's also a Jamaican thing. We
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  Speaker 1: love the rhyme. It's like every kid on a street
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  Speaker 1: corner in New York wants to be a rapper. It's
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as Jamaica. You don't want to run
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  Speaker 1: from the cops as well. Oh you want to do music,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So those are not the
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  Speaker 1: only thing, but you do get your style right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And the Garrison.
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  Speaker 2: Was the summertime in the port More Yeah that song, yes.
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  Speaker 1: But but can you just gribe port More for me?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just outside Kingston, so it's not in Kingston. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we got across the bridge, so it's like Jersey, don't
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  Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, because we are still very much intertwined
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  Speaker 1: culturally and everything. Most people in Port Moore at the
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  Speaker 1: time went to school in Kingston. He worked in Kingston,
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  Speaker 1: so we're basically a twin city. And how was the life?
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  Speaker 1: So I grew up?
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  Speaker 6: How was life and water Ford? Could you describe that
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  Speaker 6: in anything?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up like six of us, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, six kids, six kids my parents.
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  Speaker 1: We had six of us in one room at one point,
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  Speaker 1: on one bed. You know, get your lifestyle. But for me,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't change how I was raised because it made
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  Speaker 1: me a tough, determined, unwilling to go back there, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, I'm on big for
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  Speaker 1: Fort More Empire.
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  Speaker 5: Can you say your uncles were inspiring you to do
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  Speaker 5: mutic Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They were from Kingston. So they used to come to
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  Speaker 1: my mom's house like on Sundays where my dad had
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  Speaker 1: this thing set up turn table you know those of
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  Speaker 1: course with the needle. Yeah, so and they used to
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  Speaker 1: string the mic up and DJ. They lived in Kingston Waterhouse. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's where I was born, so big as well.
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  Speaker 2: So let me just go straight up for action. Who's
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  Speaker 2: the King of the dance Hall?
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  Speaker 1: Vibes Garter. Don't get it twisted because you have to
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  Speaker 1: remember Bean is a legend. I mean, was king the
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  Speaker 1: same way George was was king. Now we have Charles,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. These things come and go
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  Speaker 1: just like life right here now a few years from now,
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  Speaker 1: we're gone. So currently speaking, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: That's set by billboard, that's set by the fans, rolling stones,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Vibes Garten, the king numbers
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  Speaker 1: is there to prove it as it relates to dance hall,
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  Speaker 1: the love is there, impact is there, influences there all right,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, what's more left to be said?
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  Speaker 6: One game and one thing I commend you for is
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  Speaker 6: you never I haven't heard you talk bad on meaniever.
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  Speaker 6: You always pay me up against es Guard. You just
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  Speaker 6: hit them, just hit the Grammys, and you still pay
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  Speaker 6: them respect on.
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  Speaker 1: That's my top five. I told you Bounty being in
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  Speaker 1: vibes Guard. That's it. But I've read a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of the comments, and a lot of comments were
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  Speaker 2: saying that that's the reason why you already king is
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  Speaker 2: because of your humbleness, Like you could use the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: and said something wrong or said something bad about No.
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  Speaker 1: No, God is the great test Man. God is the
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  Speaker 1: great old You wouldn't have been like that. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: all right, but you know what I mean. You learn,
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  Speaker 1: you want some feal, you want some fever. You're offering,
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  Speaker 1: but I need a ice please? So is this something
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: white clanberry white? Right? Okay, okay, yeah, that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little hated and I've never heard of white
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: caroen Verby?
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  Speaker 1: Now is that a Jamaican drink? Or is that universe? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: You're taking it? Keep keep you see where? Yeah, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: make it over head, that's right. I reflect that.
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  Speaker 2: So when you were locked up, what was the most
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  Speaker 2: thing that you missed more? Because I was about to
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  Speaker 2: say recording or performing, but you got to record in jail, boy,
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  Speaker 2: did you miss performing? I didn't get to record. I
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: can't figure out how to record. Yeah, because I ain't
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  Speaker 2: gonna lie. Whatever iPhone you got.
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  Speaker 1: Fives, I'm gonna record it. It's good for recording. How
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  Speaker 1: many albums do you recorded in jail? A lot? I
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  Speaker 1: mean we did. We did Iking, which is now re released.
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  Speaker 1: We did King on the Dance Al which Feverson soul goal.
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  Speaker 1: I did the Tuanisha, the album that's nominated for a Grammy,
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  Speaker 1: that in prison as well.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So, but you don't sound like you in prison.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to like we were listening to this city today,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, how the fuck did you do that?
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  Speaker 1: Let's figure it out. Remember, everything is the technique once
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  Speaker 1: you crack the colde in. So I started using my mattress,
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  Speaker 1: like you know that sponge they gave you to sleep
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  Speaker 1: on to imitate the cushions sound in the studio. Micah.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's what I figured out.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited to take you to figure that part out a.
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  Speaker 1: Few years because I started recording, like in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and by twenty thirteen I figured it.
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  Speaker 2: OUTA you had a phone in there immediately, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I had an iPad the small one, a rectangular one.
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  Speaker 1: Remember those early ones from back in the day. I
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  Speaker 1: used to use that, Yeah, until I figured it out,
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  Speaker 1: like twenty thirteen. Then I started doing more better quality
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  Speaker 1: songs in terms of the sound.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Now, what's your favorite place to perform? I see
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  Speaker 2: you just booked Cologne, Germany?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I mean yeah, what's your favorite place.
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  Speaker 2: To perform outside of Let me let me rephrase the question.
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  Speaker 2: What's the place that you performed that? Then you was like,
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  Speaker 2: dam why am I here like a weird place?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like I embraced everywhere. Let me
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  Speaker 1: let me think Japan two thousand and one. That was crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy because like at the time most of these
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  Speaker 1: the Internet wasn't around. That's big. So it was crazy
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  Speaker 1: for me to go to Japan and was like, these
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  Speaker 1: people know my songs, you know what I mean? So
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  Speaker 1: that was crazy. But since then, you know, we got
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  Speaker 1: used to it. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, when you went to when you went to trial,
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  Speaker 2: A friend of mine's different. I believe you went had
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  Speaker 2: twelve days a trial.
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  Speaker 1: I believe he went to.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven days, and I believe if I hear this right,
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  Speaker 2: on the twelfth day, they didn't let him in because.
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  Speaker 1: They knew he was going to be guilty. I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about Buster Ribs. Yes, yes, yes, that's my G. I
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  Speaker 1: was with him in La La. I just did him
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  Speaker 1: in the studio. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, how's your relationship with bus Describe your relationship.
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  Speaker 1: That's my g. The first time I met him was
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  Speaker 1: after I did Best at the Best because remember I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a visa, so I was the first artist
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  Speaker 1: to do Best at the Best from Jamaica by your satellite,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Live. So he was in
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  Speaker 1: the crowd in Miami watching on stage and was like, Yo,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? I need to know this person.
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  Speaker 1: So we came to Jamaica. Oh so he do music first? Okay, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so he came to Well, we loved Buster Ryan right
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  Speaker 1: right because you know, growing up we think we found
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: out he was Jamaica and the DJ very well, he
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  Speaker 1: raps very well, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the Fever, the fever. You don't know the song.
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  Speaker 2: Fever? Okay, hell y, hell ya, salu yo. Man, let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you something, world boss man, we are son.
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  Speaker 1: This is fever. Let's do that looking Fever they're looking fever. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So now if I'm a tourist, I've never been to Jamaica.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big Bobscartel fan. Where where do you recommend
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  Speaker 2: that I go in Jamaica for what?
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  Speaker 1: For? I don't know? To be safe, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Good man, you can't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you love Dan soul and you want
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to be in that culture where Cartel is from, Bounty
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  Speaker 1: beating Fada, come to Kingston. Come to Kingston with party
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  Speaker 1: every single night. So them mon they choose Wednesday thirty Friday.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: You want like a resort, vibe, white sand beaches, the
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: girls with the little thing. You go to Montego to
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  Speaker 1: be feared. To Montego Bay. They also have a very
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  Speaker 1: powerful inner city culture. They got Gunman in Montigo Bay.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen one. Okay, cool, but I will say
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  Speaker 1: this though, they have a very strong culture as well.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're the second city. So so Mantigo Bay would
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  Speaker 1: be if Kingston were in New York, Montego Bay would
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  Speaker 1: be Los Angeles. Okay, they go and they pushed. They
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  Speaker 1: have big artists from Montego Bay as well. Culture, the energy,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean dancers, Yeah, Tommy Lee. Yeah, I
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: brought out Tommy Lee and I mean I have squash.
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  Speaker 1: He lives in Miami. Now's the artist man, Jamal the duntsman.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, More Bay's a nice cultural place too.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I've been to Montego Bay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you've been there? Yeah, resort part.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know nobody, so.
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  Speaker 1: I know we're all over the place.
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  Speaker 6: But I want to talk about Alliance and you and
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  Speaker 6: your introduction to Bounty Killer and that that part of
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  Speaker 6: your life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was crazy, man. Like I was in pot
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  Speaker 1: More at the time. So a dude that saw me
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  Speaker 1: on a show, a stage show, amateur night and he
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  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I know Bounty Killer and I can
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  Speaker 1: make the introduction. But them times, as a youth from
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the ghetto, we was like, where do you know Bounty Killer? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Like how you know it? Who are you? Yeah? Exactly
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  Speaker 1: because at the time he was driving a Nissan. I'm like, nigga,
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  Speaker 1: how you.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So it took us months because I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: come pick me up today, five o'clock, five o'clock. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: never showed you know what I mean. And then one
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: day me and my friends was there chilling and we
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: was like you know what, he's determined, give him my chat,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. See how determination is a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: good thing too. So I said, okay, let's go. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he actually knew Bounty. So when he took me to Bounty, Killer,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Bounty was there. I think he was playing cards or dominos,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: but some gambling was going on and he didn't even
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: look up. Like Butler was like, oh, this is the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: dude that I wanted to introduce it to. And Killer
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, man, make him do the demo, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: let him do the money double six. And because he's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: playing his domino. Anyway, we went to do the demo.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: When I went to the studio to do the demo,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I saw a man. A man came in and the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: engineer was arguing with him and something he pulled the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: gun shot the dude killed him and spot we had
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to leave the like I would have blood cut. It's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: all kind of classes. Listen, I'm alive. Anyway, we went
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to another studio where I met a famous Jamaican DJ
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: called Ricky Schoper. In Jamaica, we wouldn't call him DJ
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: or we'd call him a selector. He spins the turntable
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and that was the start of an amazing relationship as well. Anyway,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: did the demo, went back to Bounty Killer the next day,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: gave him the demo, left, came back next day, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: then he was like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's when Bone
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Killer became my mentor you know what I mean, legend. Yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: he made me famous. Big up. Bon Tekula should do that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Brought you to him because oh yeah, but he lives
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in la right now. As a matter of fact, me
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and him not that close. But he's a little bro.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: He's one of my road managers. I don't leave him
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: everywhere in the world I am. He's there. About the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: first time he met Buju Bo, Like I said, the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: first time I actually met him apart from the incident,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: was in Manhattan. Sometimes I had visa way back in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the day, like two thousand and four. Yeah, and let
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: me ask.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You a little political questions not so political, but why
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: did Jamaicas need visas to come here? But Americans don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: need visas to go to Jamaica.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: In America is America. If you guys need visas to
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: will maybe Russia. London.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: They kick me out of London. I have a visa,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: they kick me out. They didn't even let me get
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: out of the airport.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: We need visas for some beer. They kicked me right
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: out London. Yeah, I mean you know you loved it, motherfucker.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I mean we could you know, let me tell us
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: on that I'm not going to get to because they're
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: going to end up in race. And how does it
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: feel to get your visa back?
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: And what does that mean for an artist coming from
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: Jamaica and overseas.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it feels good, man. And I think I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: deserve it too, right, I mean, so shout out to it. Yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: not not. I don't say that to sound cocky or anything.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I just say that because apart from me putting in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the work, I think I'm changed as a person and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I'm more user friendly so to speak. So yeah, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: think I deserve And you got all the charges. We
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: got to quit it of all the all the charges charge.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Because one of the things that that was said to
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: me was this whole time he was he was, he
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: was caught, but there was no gun and there was
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: nobody that they ever found.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: No. Yeah, so it was almost like that's that's like.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I went through the childs and tribulations and God,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: God brought me through successfully, you know, so made it through,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: made it God is the greatest, goddamn yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Man, So he was some of the things you was
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: watching in jail, everything everything you had Internet, you had
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: world Star.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: World Stars know that jail man, I had fucking porn Hub.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: You walked the Red Carpet and the Grammys, and I
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: need to point out every every little website like you knew.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: It was like he had to be and it can. Yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it's up to the time, man. I mean they've taken
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: so much, so many phones from in prison. I've lost
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: count man, because it's not like it's legal, right, but
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: it's a cell and I'm in a cell. Yeah, so
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you know you know how that goes. It's crazy though
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: whatever I mean, I wasn't. I wasn't given the worst treatment.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I wasn't singled out. You know, sometimes people have to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: single you out, but when I was in Jamaican version,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I wasn't like singled out in a bad way, right right,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: only in good ways, you know, because you know, the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: culture is big and like I said, I'm a chill person,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: And you're the world on the fucking balls. Yes, yes,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: show it's about giving people their flowers when they could
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: smell them, their thoughts where they.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Could think them, and they drinks while they could drink them.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yo, man, welcome home, Yo, stay home, stay on top.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Of the game. We want to give you your flowers
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: face to face. Yeah it's yeah. Yeah, that's a camera. Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg said it's better than the Grammy because it
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: comes from his people.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Tell them where you're from. He's from. Yeah, all around. Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: thank you man. It means a lot.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, you got your nickname is the war Angel as well?
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, And what's the war Angel?
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Was the War Angel? Yes, So I want to go
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: back a little bit because we're in the magnificence of
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Vibes Cartel right now, but we have to talk about
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: how you got there and the things that made you
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: that you know, and you said some of your inspiration
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: was Bounty Bugey and Ninja Man. Yes, you had an
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: instance from Ninja Man one time on stage.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: I'm just wondering, how the hell do you have an
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: instance like that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: With one of your inspiration. It was an unfortunate incident,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Funny enough, Like I said,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Ninja Man is the first artist that I really listened
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to and was like, I want to do this. It's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: my job.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: It's going to be my job.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So I guess we were bound to meet at some time.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They say worked the idol becomes a rival's Yeah, yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: so it happened. Yeah, so I mean, I guess that's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: what brought me and his journey right there in that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: time and space together. But yeah, we cool. We met
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: after that. We were actually in prison together, like two prisons. Yeah,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: so we were in Spanish down prison and we were
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: in Towers Street in Kingston. I left in there as
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, So big up Ninja Man. But yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that was a crazy point in my career. You know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I was hungry. I could tell you I was hungry man,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and I wanted it any means necessary. Yeah, well, big
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of Ninja. We're good like that.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: And what about the Times of Bounty? Who all was
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: in the Alliance?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had the lyrical field at the Alliance
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: as well when I left, Because you but how long
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: were you with them? I was with Alliance some two thousand,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: about two thousand and five, two thousand and six, Yes,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: funny enough. You know what started that field with me
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: an Alliance. When I went to Beanie Man's wedding, Oh yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he was was he grow Beanie was at it at
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the time because remember Bounty being in Man married at
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the time, socience was high. It was loving hip hop
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and Jamake exactly. Angel that's being a man's wife. I've
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: known her for years, so I basically went to angel wedding.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: But you were supporting her, yes, right, and trust me
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Man that that was great. Yes, that caused it many
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: But did you do you did a record as well?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: What he did a record? Yeah? What she was being
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: birth to a life? You know what's it was a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: big it was a big song. Yeah, but that's what
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: started and we went and that's what Bert like the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: emerging and so God's a gully because then stepped up
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that gully.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Is that's who you guys win against, right, Yes, yes, okay,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: but we're both from Alliance.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so when you have that problem, he stepped up
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: for Alliance.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, he stepped up for Alliance because I was shooting everyone.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: He was like the young brave one that at the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: time the way I do. And that's when it started.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: So it's over. It's over now. Yeahahn, because matter.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Went down for a while.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, matter of fact, his son was
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in the same person I was in two yeah yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: so yeah, show the guard. Yeah he's in town.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Do you ever do you ever look back at those times?
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: And and I don't want to say regret. I never
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: regret anything, but maybe you want to do something different.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I know, I want to live in this universe, man,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and this universe brought me to where I am.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Well, right, it's a fire happening, right, and you got
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: one bottle of fever.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: You could save one person, I understandle no no, I.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Say one person, yes, booju or bounty killing, save one
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the fire moreal. I just want to let you know
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: he can save. He's gonna drink the fever himself.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I thought I could have sat. I saw that on
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: your program that when the person doesn't want to answer,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you drink.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: That's I'm gonna take a drink.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: It's a quick you're ready for hold on, hold on,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I want to go ahead. Hold on, my bad, you're
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: gonna you gotta step your ship up there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: That's what they make up these questions. But let's let's
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: talk about one of your friends.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Sean Storm that's my brother man friends. Yeah, real bro man.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Everything is great, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: His mom used to sell at the primary school that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I went to. He went to there to but I'm
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: older than him, so I was there before. So yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: we grew up in the same community, right, yeah, Okay,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that's my bro man. Okay, talk to him every day. Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Why did you ask that though, even though it's you,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want to make sure I'm
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: one point.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I want point. I have
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: to call every Let me tell you something. Everybody wants
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: to be a part of this interview. Everybody man, because
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you're so important to the people, you know what I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: and and like you know what I mean. I just
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: wanted to I just wanted to give your flowers, man,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: because you know what I mean, Like, your story is
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: impeccable flowers received.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Right, Well, I want to ask you what influenced, if
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: any did you have a hip hop artist from over
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: here in the States.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Growing up, are used to listening to like KRS one, BDP,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Love the Browns, and I mean Slick Creck, a little
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: bit of Big that we loved, click crick in Jamaica.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Back in the day, we heard, yeah man the ruler,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the teacher. Yeah, come on, big up, slickman recruited big
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: chin and you know, back in the days, Jamaicans used
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: to love to wear those big, heavy gold chains, you
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: know what I mean them times the diamond and the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: bling wasn't such a thing. But yeah, I'm on, you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: call yourself the teacher too, right, Yeah? But yeah, well
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't call myself the teacher. The people gave me that.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: People gave me World Boss. I only gave myself the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: name Vibecartel and war Angel. Remember Bounty Killers, the warl Right,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: so he needs the little war angels around. Yeah, yeah
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: did you. Yes, that's how we actually hooked up. I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: met in terms of like I used to write, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: then he gave me the opportunity to do a song
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: with him called Galla Clad. Wait wait, you said used
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to write. Yeah, I wrote like back in the day,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like the whole song. Yes, yes, yes, really, yeah that's cool. Yes,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that's Bounty Killer. We're gonna say that's uncool. No, No,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying because had the team up right tests
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: around him, good writers too, Wow, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: very good, right, test Man.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: So you guys have more output. I feel like then
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: artists over here. Yeah right, you're right on every rhythm
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: that comes out, just.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Throwing it out. Did Neo ever get mad at you?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I've never met him. Your niggas match up his song? Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: I know you're in the club thinking they're gonna hear.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You clear. That mean if I got okay.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Clear it right away, which we want for me to
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: not clear it, even if I was thinking about not
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: clearing it, which by the way, I was never thinking
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: about not clearing.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: That's but he didn't clear it. He didn't know, That's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: You was presented to me like this is that dude?
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: Oh and by the way, he did this with your song?
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: It was presented to me like that. So I'm like,
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: so what are we talking about right now? Of course
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: it's fine. What Why would I have a problem with this?
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: To this day, I can't, like you know, I can't
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: be over there and before misindependent without showing without giving props.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: To what then he did? You know what I'm saying,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like you made Yeah? Yeah, man, Like ye say, he
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: broke the record back five and that's awful. The ship
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that I was shrunting. I got to give you love
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: for that. Okay. In its defense as well, the publishing
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was owned by some European guys, so they were holding
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: like we don't isn't isn't that so dope? The power
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of the people they.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Make with the hits whatever, den't clear it or not,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's your record. Yeah, man, it's the biggest.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: It's one of my biggest songs, man, trust me. It's
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: one of spices. Like anywhere she goes, she's like, yo,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I got the big hit with Cartel. This is my
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: first big song, she says that. And she's also from
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Portmore by the way, Spice, we grew up together. Yeah
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: yeah man, so big up and the rumping shop, that's it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: That's that's the yes, yes, rough yeah, yeah yeah ump
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: you guys maybe we call it like a motel or
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: oh it's always like that, yes, yeah, sex shop, but
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: we said ramping shop. We rap broth. Yeah. So that's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: where the concept came from, you know what I mean,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that's where we used to hang out in the name
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: me Popcorn family. You know, the girls used to come through. Yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: so that's how we gave it the name the ramping
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: shop and it's a real place.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know I'm supposed to say it like this,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But and you bus popcorn right yeah?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going you said it properly saying
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: let's say.
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: It's just saying yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Brought in the fame. Man. Very talented, you know what
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, big popcorn.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Did you did you think he exceeded your expectations or
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: did he meets your expect No?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: He met it. And I mean he has way more
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: potential in him. Remember he hasn't even touched you as
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: soil there. Think about that. He's one of the biggest
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: artists out of Jamaica. Been all over the world. He
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: rolls with Drake. Oh, I'm seeing him in Canada. I'm
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: thinking that exactly. He's got that. Damn I didn't keep that. Yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and he goes to you cells like gold in Uka
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: on a regular Yeah. Man, he's doing this thing. He's big.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: If you if you if you get the headline Eastern
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Parkway Parade, which you bring popcorn with you.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Unless he's walking through the border. Like I said, he.
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: Doesn't have a visa, but definitely like me, and we
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: travel all over the world.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: We've been traveling. Like I said, I gave him his fame,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so of course if he gets his visa, start telling
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: it's on. Yeah yeah, but yeah. But now as it stands,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that's two well man ship. So why they won't give
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: him his visa. I never went to the embassy when
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: that was being you got your visa? No, because God
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: is the greatest. I told you. I've made like people
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: expected me to come out guns blazing, fucking up the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: place literally and musically. But like I said, I'm just calm, chill,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like I feel blessed. I feel good, you know. I mean,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just showing love to everyone, whether you like me
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: or not. And that's where my blessing comes from. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: mean a lot of people surprised that I got the visa,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. As a matter of fact,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I went to the German embassy first and got the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: European one, the shn Yang. Then I went to the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: US embassy got the US visa. In addition to that,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: like I said, the Grammy nomination keeping Freedom Street the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: biggest dance all show a blessing because we're just like yo,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: God on your time right now, you know, I mean yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're gonna make Freedom Street a festival.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're for two days, every two.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Days everywhere, so we will be the next place you
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: want to do that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Uh well, we wanted to do it in England, but
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: we got an offer already wireless festival. Yes, so being
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: wireless and you know that summer, so I don't want
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: to fuck that up. So yeah in London okay, well yeah,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Live Nation okay, yeah. Yeah, so we're doing We're just
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: keeping it every year in Jamaica. That's that's one thing
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for sure. It's going to be an annual event. All right.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Do you realize that you stopped you only the planes
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: traffic in Jamaica that night of the concert.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was planes that was backed up, there was traffic.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It was it was like one of the craziest nights
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: in Jamaica.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Do you know that? Yeah? Man, he'sn in Kingston. You
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't get a hotel room. All the rooms are booked,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And what a lot of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the hotels did on that night. So say the room
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: is for like two fifty US. So for those two
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: nights you got to have a thought in the night. Wow,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: they cut you in on that. No, the hotel that
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I stay funny, you know, because actually stay at the hotel.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I've been there so long. Even my manager was like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: just by the hotel man, But they give me a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: good rd. So I stayed there because my house is
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: in the hills, but it's too far. So if I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: want to hide away from people and then I go there.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But I like to stay in New Kingston because that's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: like being in Manhattan. You said, New Kingston part of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: New Kingston banks and the hotels and the nice restaurants
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and places.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: You would like.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, damn.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Let me ask a question since I were talking about
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: Freedom Street. You know, Freedom Street get reaches reaches here
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: and then you emerge out the stage and you just
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: sit there for me, yes, for maybe for one two minutes,
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: it seemed like five minutes.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, What did that feeling feel like for you?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I did it on purpose because remember I like to
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: prove them wrong. So if you if you want me
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to jump this table, just say you can't jump. You
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you to the table. So
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: when I was coming out the pea, usually I would
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: start making my signature slang from from black stage so
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: they'd be like yo, yo, all say you know you
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: know the thing? Yeahine like that would get the c
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So I was like, nah, I'm coming out like Michael
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Jackson style silence and let them do that. Yeah. So
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I gave them like a good think about a minute. Yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it seems like five.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: Streaming on six before they canceled it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And then I said yeah yo and Pandemonium yeah man,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and then we started It's crazy this is Mine. Yes,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I like Dreamstown. The drinks just appear out of nowise.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, do you think you should have
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: on the Grammy? Yeah, yeah, of course why not?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It was me like you know, reading in the comments,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of people agree with you. They think that
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you should have won the graph of course.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I mean that's Bob Marley. How many Grammys do you need?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Like you're the number one artists in the Jamaica verse, right,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: number one. It's that sit some iTunes number and every
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: day looking at us like this literally, I mean, if
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you look at this album that hardly moves some number one.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Let me, yeah, I moved a couple of times, goes
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: back up. Another artist, come move it, it goes back up.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: That's Bob. How many Grammys you need, man, And if
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you think about it, my story is an amazing story.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Thirteen years out of prism getting nominated for the album
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: that I did in prison, I mean, now getting a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: us VSA walk in the red carpet, that's a real story.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And you know the Grammars is also political as well.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful story. It's a success story.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: And got a carpet that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Was exactly that would have been an icing on the cake?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Am I bitter? No? No, that's Bob Marley and first,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and I think he was the only person who could
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: have beaten you know what I mean.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: So the last time you're going to be no, exactly,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: that's nothing.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: But you asked a question like that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: But here's the here's the question that for me. For me,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I love this movie. But every time I ask somebody
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: from the island of Jamaica, they tell me they didn't
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: even see the movie.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: No legend Bob Marley movie. Like ever you're talking.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I asked somebody, did you see the Bob Marley movie,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: like a person from the yard. They will be like yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: they were like, no, I didn't see it.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I've seen clippings of it though like a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: lot of clips. I need to understand this cause you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: playing this to me.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Why are people and I think you you you explained
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: it to me a little bit. You said, I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: people from Jamaica knows Bo's story so much they didn't want.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: It to be any iconic. But for for us, like if.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: A biggie movie just come out, right, I'm from Queen's
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not from Brooklyn, but I'm gonna go see a
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: biggie movie.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Why isn't the things he feels they need to tell
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: me where he's from.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Why don't people from the yard go watch Ball's movie?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I mean it's personal, man, because
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, we know about we know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: we grew up hearing his life story. Even a lot
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: of people in Jamaica who did watch the movie, they
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: were like, oh, why did why didn't Cindy breakspeare? Which
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is which is Julia Gonsman? Why didn't she get more
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: time in the film? Oh it is because Richard did
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the film. So yeah, so it's that serious. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, there's no people have their favorites, man,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: because Bobby is that big.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Right now, what is the difference between reggae and dance hall.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, the beats, you know what
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, Dan Saul. As a matter of fact, Dan
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Saul came about on reggae beats until he found it
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: on nats. Some would say, with in in eighty six
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: we changed the beat itself. But yeah, yeah, but reggae
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: is more political, more social, you know what I mean,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: more against the system, more rebellious. Well, Dan Saul is
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: just like sex, drugs, you know what I mean, like violence.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's deeper than that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: That's many layers obviously, yeah, obviously, because you know what
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I mean. But yeah, I think Dan Saul is Reggae's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: like unruly cousin, you know, the one from the Projects. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that's Dan Saull. Younger cousins, Yeah, the younger, very young reggae,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the older big brother like, yeah, he smokes pipes, yes, yes,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the younger dance That roller dance is of O G
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: now too, Yeah, of course it is. I's been around
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: since the seventy what's my man name?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I told you to sh the picture of and I
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: called him doctor.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: But he's not a.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Doctor, multa multi right. I've seen to you ever you
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: think you ever do his show?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not afraid to do more show what
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: is iconic in Jamaica as well, you know, especially among
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the Rastafi the reggae community.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: So he was saying, like, how how much of reggae is.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: The o G?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: But I guess we kind of like like stepped on
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: that already, right few that Yeah, we can't know.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You can't dispel that. That's plus it's coming from it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: coming from a legend too. Yeah, but he's right, reggae
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: is the og man. Right. Yeah. Well, I think and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: this is the topic that's been discussed, it's been going
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: on for years. Should Dancehall have its own category? And
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I think yes, because Sean Paul is a reggae, we
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: need more classify him as dance yes, and he's international, right,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we have the we
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: have the criteria. We have big International Dance All Stars
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: as opposed to what Junior Gong who's reggae, as opposed
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to a Bob Marley who was reggae, you know what
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, So I think we could have our
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: own catch and you Bounty Dancehall Dance Sall Butcher was
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: danceaull as well.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Liked and the artists could go back and forth.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do because I have reggae track well,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's a thin line,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, it's there.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: Nonetheless, when you said was dancehall, would you ever do
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: an album like a til Shallow album but on your own?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: You know I mean when I say it was, maybe
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that's a strong choice at first, but what I mean
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: he was only dance, you know what I mean?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: And then he was like, didn't shine?
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to un stuffing, you know what
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I mean. So he made the transition and he was
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: super successful as a sold artists and super successful reggae artists.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Not many people do that, right, you know what I mean?
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, would you make an album like that
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: until Shallow album or I mean, I'm if I'm.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Dance so forever, man, I doubt that, but I do
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: reggae songs because you are not love, but I'm dance
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: sold forever, you know what I mean. That's not gonna change.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think you do a tour with Beanie Man?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, if the money is right, I'll do a
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: tour with anyone. You know what I mean it is.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I would not say anyone. I mean any Jamaican up.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, any hip hop artists, R and B artist
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean saw black music, afrobeats like come
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: on you bus tour would be cool, that's my g Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: He actually told me like, yo, we need to sing
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: some dates together, like let me know, I'm flying.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm flying out front seat like.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Like no, I gotta watch it, na. Man h. That
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: was one of the guys. That's a good point you
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: made too, because when you said, now I'm gonna watch it,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you see. So you can't just be an artist. You
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: got to be a fan of the music. God, damn
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: make some noise for I like what you said. Yes,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, man. I would.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I would if you and Bust the Pomps to do
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: a show together, that's God. I probably wouldn't even call
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: him because.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: He was like, you're coming from form and I'm like, no,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I'll be roll like this on like yeah, yeah, so
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: the fans don't see you because this space yeah yeah. Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna keep it on hunting with you. How
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: many babies you think you made of?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: For vibes? Just your music I'm talking about.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I was listening to your ship and all you too,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: is talking about fucking you like this, yes, sir, like
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the that's.
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: Not for that.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah man, like I said, like in Jamaica,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you have artists that do songs for the girls, and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: then you have artists like me that go hardcore sex.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I have songs for the girls. Yeah, but
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of my songs is like sex. You Knowabarans. Yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like Sabarans then, like he was like the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: man every other song pussy pussy, But I mean artistically done,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, it's not like you're reading from a
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: book like it's music. So you gotta flow. It got
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to sound poetic, got to be on the beach. You
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: got the cadence, articulation, all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: It was funny and ship because we were all working
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: out to your music.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: My white days, like yeah, yeah, I had my my
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: when I was in America back in the day, I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: had security, right, you know, these giant looking guys. So
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: some of them were Hispanish. So the dude came to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: me one day and he was like, yo, cartel man.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I figured out your song. But your songs are the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: ones that say pussy, pussy every two lines. I'm nothing.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. You
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: got the cold boy, yeah, man, So, like I said,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: dancehall is like that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: It's hardcore. How many babies you think you made just
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: over your music? Like people just just people do something
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the place?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? Yeah? What population nineteen twenty percent? The hell? Yeah,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: it's bigger than Jamaica. When people say that, even in
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the comment section, people would be like, say, I post
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: the old song, say ramping shop it, oh cartail, I
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: made my son for that song. Yeah. Literally in the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: comment section, I mean Virginity. That's a big song in
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Jamaica that I did as well. Ladies comment, oh I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: lost my virginity to this song such and such I
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: got fragmented this song. So yeah, they'd be in the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: comments section.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I can't think of that.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Experience. And that's why people call you the world boss.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, they say that you can make you
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: know love music, you can make us you know dog music,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: and you can you can make cop music anything.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Then, like I said, I do a few reggae joints
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and yeah, we do everything man like it's music. It's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: like I say, I sing my truth and my experiences.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be first hand all the time and
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: be a second you know. I mean, me and you
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: in the streets, are something happened in the community, sing
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: about that, but do it in a way because remember
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it's universal. I mean, it's like hitting your elbow on
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: the wall and feeling that shock. We all go through
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: the same stuff. Yeah, funny, Well, so it's like once
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: you have been through it, chances are a few other
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: people I've gone through that. It's relatable. But yeah, so
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: that's how I attacked music from that more personal kind
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of and that's why people love my songs danceau because
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I tap into that personal part. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: Speaking of that, let's talk about your debut album, Up
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: to the Time album, you know Green, Do you want
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: to just drop no?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: No, no, that's the way out two thousand and three.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: I think, how do you do you remember creating that
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: album and what was going on and your mind stage?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said in them times, Oh, because
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: when I came out back then a lot of people
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: didn't understand my style exactly because dan So was changing
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and I was one of the kids at the time
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: that was changing the flow. So I got a lot
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: of pushback from the industry, from the gatekeepers. So when
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: that album came out, the kids just ate it up.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And that's how Vice character became like a young g
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: back in the day because the flow was different, you know,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: because you know, in like say nineties dance, so the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: typical template it would be like no no no no
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: no no. Vibescarter was like, can I know? And I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: a close fitting Clarks Michos the chief like chicken pas.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: They call me Valentine and summer shots. Most you know
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: bot't share to the hearts, fend the glass cars eighty
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Dutch marks. We think them my pre when me and
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: passed what I tell you them me and not them
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: tags Barbara Blue down them color arks, who is vibes
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: cartel and then make it recommend this and a remarks
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: so I'm semi ugly like Barbara Sparks some sembody. Best
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: then come across illegal firearm a fiberglass so on a
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: rush me with no knife, iras dis plus me equally
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: a life alas you know, crazy rhyme like I opposed
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to like this is early two thousand me talking. So yeah,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: so that album when it came out, the kids ate
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: it up and I became like instantly a household named
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: just On for that because like I said, we grew up.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: The generation before me wasn't into hip hop like that.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: My generation of the nineties we grew up to like
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I said, the Carris one Big is Smaller and it
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: came out Tupac.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Jay Z nots and the changing of the flows, changing.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Up the flow, so we kind of have had the
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: ear to like, oh, whoa you can say so you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: can express yourself like that, you can say that, you.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: Can jump out of the pocket, come back into the
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: part exactly.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: So that's where a cartel came from, like as a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: product of dance, salt and hip hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I can see why Sife was
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: trying to compare him to Eminem, the Eminem Jamaica, and
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: that's that's all car exactly.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: And that's like twenty five years ago, twenty you know
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, it's crazy. I don't like
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: that comparison, by the way, but.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: The fact that he can do anything, you know what
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: Like we always we always said Lil Wayne, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: that's who we always is.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Fired though, like how does he is? How does he
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: come up with that ship? Which is what people say
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to me and dance stalls when I listed the way
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and I want to see him to asking that same question.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Crazy man, But yeah, who's your favorite hip hop artist
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: right now? Of all time? Tupac all time Tac. That's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: why this is. I got this from park because back
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: in the day, yeah yeah, yeah, and and funny enough
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: why we used it to because I'm from port More,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: which is not really Kingston, so we're like outsiders, especially
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: back then. We're like yeah, so yeah, so we had
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the Gosha that's crazy.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: What would what would Bob Catel Tupac crazy?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: That would be crazy. Hold hold on, hold on, hold on,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: And I got the worst.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Uh so that's it called volume in the world.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Cypher sounds in the building, you see funny. Yeah, I'm here, man,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: You're go I'm fine, man, I'm doing drinks Champs, so
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you know that though I'm telling you, it's a pleasure
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: to be here. Sif trust me, thank you you started it.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: You ew and Rosenberg. Remember the interviews as I came out.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: They did the very first one. Yeah. Yeah. So now
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I'm at Drinks Jams Live, so I'm drinking your excite
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: where you are question.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I just want you to know I'm the king of
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: the dance hall.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: They come and they come see me. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: my friend. That's my friend. Now I was asking you
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: about the Brooklyn Parkway Parade.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Now in New York, this is like the biggest, biggest.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: This is like for the for the Jamaica's is like
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: their summer jam.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Right. Is it a West Indies day in today? You know? Okay? Yeah?
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: By them times. Like I said, I was a young artist,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: elephant man, and the guys was running the place from that.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: In the dance all.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: First, yeah, yeah, what do you feel about reggae?
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Don? I love reggae. Don. I don't understand ship they're saying.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: But the flow is similar to the flow is similar
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: to dance all and the ridding the beat is dance.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I love it, man. I don't know problem with I love.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Have you collaborated yet with anybody? No, not yet, not yet,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: But I love it. You know what I mean? The
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: vibe energy, Yeah, it comes on in the club. I mean,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: we don't stop like what the folk man? Can you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: name a reggae don recon that you like? I don't know, okay,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: but I know that the Yankee doog, he was the
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: original pioneer, wanted the pioneers. Okay, yeah, so we knew
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: about that Yankee and as Jamaicans back in to day,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: that made us feel patriotic and all that. All these
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: guys are patterning our ship. So daddy, that's that's a
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: reggae name. Remember that, even Yeah, daddy, Yankee, think about
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: it because Jamaicans called America African Americans. Yeah, yeah, and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: then you put the daddy on it. How did even
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: be down this for three years? What is wrong with me?
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Holy ship?
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay? How about apple Beats? I love afro beats.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite apple Beat record out right? Now? This?
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I should sing it. She she's
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: saying she wants him to make her sweat water. Oh yeah,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: that's yeah, Tyler. Yeah. And I love the girl called
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Tame Stuw. I think she won Grammys for she won
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the Grammys the other day. Yeah, I was there. Yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I love afro beat. I got songs with Whisked. You
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: know what. I mean burn up not. I don't think
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I have a song with him, but he's Big two
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: in Jamaica and shot from Ghana, came to Freedom Street,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Fun Love. Yeah man, that's my bro man. So yeah, yeah,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: because I mean it's it's it's African music, all of it,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: dance song, reggaeton. It's literally called reggae. All of that
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: ship come on, jazz whatever, rock and roll is black music.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That's Africa.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Because we have Buju bontan on Buju. It was like
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: that he don't feel like that. Sometimes reggaeton or Applebeasts
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: give dancehall and reggae is props.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: So that's something that you don't agree with you. No,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: it's not that I don't agree, but think about it. Reggaeton,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: it's called reggaeton. The homage is easing in the name
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: reggae reggae ton, you know what I mean, So that
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the homage is there, I mean, I think what and
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: this goes to show the power of Jamaican music.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: US.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: It's a numbers game in Jamaica is small, you know
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Nigeria has worked over two hundred million people. Yeah,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get their own slot on MTV Africa. The continent.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: It's a frea continent, right, tell me they're gonna get
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: their own area has two hundred more than two hundred million, man, Yeah,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: someone a huge over. I'm gonna go ahead and say
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: it has like maybe two thirty million. So of course
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: MTV is gonna recognize. All them niggas are scamming niggas.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: All them niggas are Sha twenty four. I'm off like six.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: You're teaching me, man, that's trying over the teacher. Yeah,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: but seriously, it's a numbers game, so they beg so
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get the MTV Special or MTV Africa. But
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Jamaica is like two points something a minion. It's not feasible.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: But but we still influence Nigerian, right, we still influence Ghana.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: So that just goes to show the power of the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: music that comes out that that's small.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Deep, No, it's very deep, because I'm gonna tell you
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: right now, I've been all on hopping and every where
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: I went, they was pigging me up for for my
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: my dad's.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Hall interview everywhere exactly.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to tell you is as small
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: as Jamaica is like how you just said.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: It still runs.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, like it runs that whole thing,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: like everywhere that was that and I was just I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: was feeling like everywhere I was going with it and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: they start crushing up, you know.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no grind allergic the grind so so yeah, man,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 11: but Jamaica is very you want.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: To play quick, Thomas Laws do it. You don't have
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: to take shots if you don't want to.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: You can pick. You could drink, you can drink some
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: egos ship Now we got fever migos.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Two choices. If you pick one, nobody drinks. But if
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: you don't want to answer, or you want to say
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: both of the people.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Or everyone drinks. Yeah, I know, I know, he goes man.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Yeah again, thank you very much. A
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: right you ready ready? I want this one go ahead.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like you already did this already, Bounty
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Killer Jabonta.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Already Fever he was good. Okay, you can see your
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: next one, Terry Gunzi or Grindsman, grinds man. Yeah, he
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: originally did. Ben Spanani I paid homage to and used
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to hope and he's from Baltimore, where I'm from definitely
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: big Up.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Terry said, oh yeah, Tupac or DMX tupac rest in
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: piece of both.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, Peter both.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want to ask this one Bob Marley or
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Peter tosh Oh Ship, I like this shot got to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: get and you got the next one? Su sayd mm hmm,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Beanie Man or Ninja Man, Ninja Man, Goad.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Black Ryan or popcorn mm hmm. You know, the more
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: you drink this, the more you I'm ready here, let
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: me do this one. Rush on or not nice? You
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: you got turning into an alcoholic man. That's the fever
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I want you. I want to think you. You guys
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: are right man tiny show ye Ship Yeah, jay Z
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: or not jay Z? He mixed one right, No, no,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: he did that one.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: No he did that was popcorn was the last one
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: he did he did that?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah, Raster definitely jay Z.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: This one is a no brainer. Teachers pet reality show,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: a thug life movie.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Don't don't don't only the witness just speed reality show.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: You're talking about my doug. Last movie before I became famous,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: back in the day when everyone was broke, I did
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the worst fucking movie. Yeah, but that's crazy. Yeah, Doug Life,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I got shot. That was in bed laughing. That was
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: your acting skills. I have terrible laughting skills, bro, trust me.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: And you were paying mister Parker, right, Doug. Yeah yeah,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Doug Life, Like I said, Yeah, I even have it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: tattooed somewhere.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: I talk about teachers talking about teachers, how was how
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: was that experience teachers felt?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Was crazy? Man? Like, I mean it was. It could
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: have looking back, it could have been way better. But
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, I was the first person to do it,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: so we didn't have a template. It was like the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: flavor of love basically, but yeah, we should have. Yeah,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: so I did it. Even to this day, people like,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: when are you doing it? Though? For you you just
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: come out of prison. You should be doing it, not
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: getting married. So yeah, people love that was a big
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: back in the day, especially with the songs. Yeah goes
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: hand in hand, man, I got one Kendrick Lamar or
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Drake all the way down. I see you say Drake
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: before to man.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he said, every block do you go through,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: you can hear a Drake record.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: You get me. You may not, and he's not talented,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: but you know, Drake has that commercial flavor, and he's like,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: he's like the hip hop Michael Jackson, you know what
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, yeah, so yeah juicy. He did a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: lot for popcorn, and he reps the culture. He raps
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Jamaica culture to the point where people started calling him
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: culture culture. But like, we don't feel that way. It's
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: not Jamaica not influence as well, yeah, because Jamaicans are
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: all over exactly, So it is this next. I got
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: this one, go ahead.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I got this because I was looking at my closet.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: For my clocks. Yeah, I couldn't find him. I got
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: a brand new clocks.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: And then I said, I might have been going too far. Yes,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: but clarks or no, that's not that's not okay, my bad.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: My is wanted to shoot? How used to it? Back
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: to the how do you know that? Come on? All
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: the nigga says, come on, come on over here?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: Right about the addies though, because what inspired you to
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: have your own shoes?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, just like I said, I love money, but
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: it's deeper than that. Like I said, we grew up
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: on hip hop as well, and we always admired how
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: these guys come from poverty just like us. Now they
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: are rappers, they have their own shoes, They have their
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: own you know what I mean. You were seeing that
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: first in the hip hop yeah in the nineties. Yeah yeah,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: and that inspired me of course. I mean, like I said,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: my generation is the first generation to have cable TV.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: M so that influences. Yes. So when the cable came
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: out in Jamaica, we were like fourteen years old, being
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: the first generation to be able to watch B E
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: T and yeah A J and Free Yeah yeah example.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were in rap City City and all
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: You hear how loud you got one of these got
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: It changed American landscape and it added to the culture
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean. So like I said, yeah,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: before us, there was just one TV station in Jamaica.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: So the Jennifer, so my older sisters, they grew up
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: on one TV station that signed off at midnight, crazy.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: Right and Clarks, I know their sales had to go
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: up after Yeah.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: One of thember Clark's were a British colony, so Clarks
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: has been embedded in the culture. I just brought it
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: back exactly because like I said, when the cable TV came,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: this game or Jordan's came, Sneakers came Jersey Scane, so
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of it was lost to the kids who
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: came out in the in the late nineties. They came
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: out we're in Jordan's and so so when I did Clarks,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: it brought back that old school style. Yeah, and that's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: why it's still so big to this day because it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: has always been in the closure, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: let's yeah, Dre scores super hype, dre scung, but soup
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: hype is my regends. Dres called ma name did Kingston
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: story album that was crazy? M m hm, Sizzler or
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Capleton two legends? Man tell you yeah, did you drink?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I'm watching you because he's right, He's right, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: bigs long a time, man, you can't talk? Those are
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: those are giants? Yes, man? And intro music mine me,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: no one no is that responsibly.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you how much we can get right
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: back to the quick time of Slim. But let me
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: tell you how much your fans are your fans?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I posted like with multiple stuff, yes, And all I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: did was post a little bit of this right here.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: What they heard that you got your visa was d
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: m Yeah.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: But before we get back to the Quirk Thomas Slim.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I just want you to know. You know, I've been
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: doing this for eight years, so I've been studying years
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: nine years.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Excuse me.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I've been studying people's fan base. I study people's drinks,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I study people whatever. And I tell you your fan.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Base that's crazy crazy. Imagine beehive on weed. That's my finding,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Marbie on fucking.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: Exactly exactly right, Ship.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's why.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 13: Not respect like when you win episode recording that, Yeah,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 13: that's crazy.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: And you know you know that because when I was
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: playing that to a little Wayne, little Wayne couldn't actually understand.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I had like almost tell him his fan base. But
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: you know your fan base, you know why.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: They was writing you in jail and yeah, okay, that
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: is my fan base is crazy, bro like me back then,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: that's the cart was talking. That's my fan base. They
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: haven't evolved with me, with me, they're still dark as fun.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I like it like that. You can pull a Trump
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: You can tell people you go go motherfucking the.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Court right now and don't say that time and at Yeah,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell that drink water Ship, Can
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I get a straw? Why? Why Damien Mary Damien Marty
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: and Stephen Marley. Damien, that's Junior Gong. He's lop Steven still,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: but Junia Gown like the younger kids. A lot of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: young kids in Jamaica even say Junior Gong is better
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: than Bob Marley because he not only sings, he dj
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: he raps, right because he grew up different, right, right,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I mean you grew up in between Miami and New York.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Like he's a Yeah, he's a world citizen. Mm hmm.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Shava or super Cat super Man super Cat. Yeah, but
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: like I said, remember, Shaba is more my like for
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: the ladies, right, So super catches are real. I mean
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a hybrid because coming up I was
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: naturally gangster, but I do a lot of songs for
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: the ladies.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: So and it feels like super was one of the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: first artists to really get into the hip hop.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And yeah, of course because even Heavy D was
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: friends Heavy Heavy and biggest first track is on that too.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, sometimes, yeah that is a legend as well. Yeah,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: that's something Ninja Man super Cats era when I was
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen coming up in the eighties. Uh yeah,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Extensive Royalty or eminem which song? Which song? Because royalty
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: is a song? Which song? White trash, white trash party,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: white chash. Yeah, this is all you from here on out, brother, yeah, White.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Why do you write a long ass like that? Because
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: it's can tell? Man, these individuals each other? JA right,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? Get it now? I get it. It
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: don't make sense. I Shaana, I Shaana, but a legendary
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: young artist. As a matter of fact, you break since
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: you know I didn't break her. A producer that I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: recorded a song for called Loudie. You basically stole the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: song and gave it to Shenzia to sing. But this
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: is when gods are fans. My fans really had a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: problem with Shenzia when she came out and said she
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: wrote the song is if she wrote for you? No,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: as if she wrote the entire song? Okay, okay, so
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: you wrote her verse two? No, it was my song.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: So I recorded the song for you. You give it
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: to a girl. So all she did was change the verses.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: So if I say me, she said her right, yes,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: So she just changed like the pronouns okay, you know
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? And then someone someone leaked the
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: original song when when she was saying, oh, Cartail didn't
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: write my part. I wrote my part and she released it.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Someone's leaked the original song where I wrote everything. Yeah,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: that's why Gods and Sons had a problem with her initially. Well, yeah,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: she cool man like I've done met her in person,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: though you remember I was in prison them times. Yeah,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I told you it's a prison membo. I didn't.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't because you recorded that feature for I recorded
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: that song in prison.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and Elvis, who was a producer, gave it
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: to Shancia, so they left my hook and she just
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: sang my verses. Right, how did that? Did you? What
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: did that vexin? No? I wasn't vexed, and I wasn't happy.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: It was just like, yo, I need my money. I
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: need Yeah, So I wasn't angry or sad. I was unpaid. Yeah,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: so that's all I needed. But yeah, big up and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: she reps anyway she goes. She shout South Cartel too.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah to be in her defense, she does. But Spice
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: is the number one big up Spices, Queen of Dansad. Yes,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: she's been on the show. I need her. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: definitely reggaear dance hall dance for ever, go ahead.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: You should take a shot for accident. Yeah, a shot.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: We knew this dance song. Mm hmm, what this one
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: is fire? If you don't say Trump for a Biden. No,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: we don't want no political ship neither.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Do you keep your visa? Yes, sir, the shots
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: are here.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: Preface this by saying we have some foul friends, right, Yes,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: I'm the only vegan I te here.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Right, Oh you're vegan? I tell yes. A little bit.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Time to eat shrimp legend allegedly allegedly Jamaican born in Jamaica. No,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: I was born in New York. My parents from Jamaica.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Here Yankee man, here, you're a Yankee basically Yankee. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: that's a vegan. Do you eat pussy? I'm just second man.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: Because because it is me, so you can't be your feet.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I said, why No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, okay,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: So what happened when you was going to the head, Yeah,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: you was asking leading that up because the reason why
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I was give some questions. Yeah, they gave me this question, bro,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: that's the question. Jerk chicken, the curry chicken. What the hell?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: That's why they gave you no that's a deep question, man,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: can't be a shot? You take a shot? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: crazy with that. But they gave it to me though,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: that's the foure part. He gave it. They wanted us
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: to drink what Jamaica? And how are you going to
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: decide between coury chicken and jerk Chicken. I can't do it, mind,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I can't do it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Then I went to a store in Kingston and I
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: seen the Chinese.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Man. Ye, blood class, you will be a blood. Chinese
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: are the toughest Jamaica.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, okay, the locks or dip set?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: The locks is Jada kiss right? You got to say Jada,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: but you I don't know Jada. I love Jada. Why
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: does Jada sound like Italian fucking mafia with that voice
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: and that cadence, which is one of the reasons why
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: he is artist soul. Yeah, it's very true. With his lyrics, yes, man,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: and the sound of his voice. It's crazy man, Yeah,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: rasip be sound. That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 15: Yeah, man, you take the next one, said cares one
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 15: to slick Rick. I respect that you want to take
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 15: two for the culture. Ye, that's that fever, man, know
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 15: that I like it to that he took one for
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 15: karas one.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: And yeah, man, legends. I'm like, I'm not that young,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: so you know I grew up on those guys.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Now they're absolute legends, all right, Jordan or Lebron Jordan's
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: that was easy, l A or Miami, New York.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: I respect, I love it.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: I'm America, New York, Brooklyn, flat bash.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: You gonna take a shot for shot. You don't have
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: to take a shot. I'm gonna take a shot for
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: your shot. Hold on, okay, okay, but that's what I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: got to take a shot. That's what I got a shot.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: That's why I got to take It's got to be
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: smart over there. Yeah, y'all not smart with it. He's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: like one plus one three yes, salo, Yeah, cheers you guys.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Man love New York game man. M m, you got
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: the nice one. You know. The gods version of salute
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: is actually tables. That's what we're saying. So I say tables, yeah,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: because we don't do chairs.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, tables, get it, chairs, tables.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: I like it. I didn't make that up on the spot.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going, like some of your previous guests.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Analog or digital, and you're talking about the sound to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: say studio together exactly, that that's fintured sound. It's it's warmer.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you grew up on digital, you're not
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: going to know the difference, right, But if you grew
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: up old school, you're going to know that the analog
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: has that warmer sound. So what they used to do
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: in Jamaica when the digital sound came out, they used
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: to still running back on the twenty four track after
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: they mixed it, and then they mastered on the twenty.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Four chick and they still press it on the plates exactly.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: We still do that. Ship Yeah great, Oh no, this
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: is yours? Is the last one? Okay, that's the last one.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: How many questions are though? Yeah? Is seventy one? Yeah?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Fifty ship? Yeah, let me let me add one. Okay,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead man before they twenty two? Yeah,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: my pinker, it's not think it's future. Thank you for salmon. No,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: not Simon, that's Jamaican. It went over your head. No no, no, no,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: don't worry about.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 16: Its empty noo.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's asking about one is my brother? One
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: is my son? That's three shots. Give us a mad
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: story though, MATSSS is crazy, man, like I raised him.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: So when he came up from the country, he was
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: like nine ten years old. Oh wow, So we came
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: to Port Moore, so coming from does imagine you're coming
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: from fucking somewhere in the country and you end up
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn in nineteen eighty fucking six, right, wow exactly.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: So he came up and now I mean he held
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: his own he grew up rough just that the rest
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: of us. We actually went to prison together, and he
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: lost his mother while we were in prison. Yeah. Man,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I cried man like and like I said, I cried
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: twice in prison when my baby mother's mom died. And
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: when matchs mom died, that ship hit us like hard. Bro.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Even my grandmother died when I was in prison, and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel it because she was an old lady,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: was like nineties. She had lived her life, she lived
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: her life right right right, Yeah, But when MaTx was
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: mom died and Charlotte's mom, that ship hurt. Yeah.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: The is it true that he created the laughter the Yeah.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I just remember we're a group, you know, and he did.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: He invented the world boss O World Boss Yeah. So yeah,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: like I said, I raised those kids. So yeah, when
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: he came out you know, I got in a fat
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: bends and you know what I mean, gave him an
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: apartment because my life is dope. And I said that, right, Yeah,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I think. Dave Chelle, Yeah, I
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: was watching it, yeah, person, yeah, and I heard Dave
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Chapelle say it, and I'm like, oh, ship, that's that's
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that's dope. Yeah, so big up Kanye. I like Kanye too,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: so this is the last one. Yeah, I like Kanye.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: It was you and Kanye and then production wise like
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: that would be yeah. Yeah, he's also Yeah, I saw
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: ones play two pianos at once, like some black moz
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: are fucking crazy, Big up, big up Kanye.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: And now he's back up being there, he's on some
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: he's back to being right. You saw about the garments.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: And his wife said, you look, I'm I'm joking. I'm joking.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: I mean I think he might even appreciate that to
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: a degree.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if he does, I'm not joking. I'm just
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: it's real. Conye is crazy, man, But I guess that's
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: part of being a great artist, right. Yeah, you gotta
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: gotta you gotta be fucked up. I mean, not byby
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: all fucked up, but you weren't ready, I wasn't okay, Yeah,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: expect your right. It's crazy.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: The last question, last question for Quick Times Love, did
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: we get back into the interview, Yes, sir.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Loyalty or respect? Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty. I believe in loyalty
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: because you can respect me. But if you're loyal to me,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I know I'm Safeernie. Respect that you're not going to
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: cause some dude he's here Connor robb him and shoot
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: him like they didn't right by day. I mean yeah,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know they they don't want us to win
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: exactly to now. Well, Yeah, loyalty, man, Yeah, of course, loyalty.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: I believe in that, and that's why that's why it
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: was stranger And you asked me that question about Sean's storm.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: That's one of the most loyal people I've ever met.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I mean, but Gaza is loyalty though.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: That's how we roll, you know what I mean. Let's
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: make some noise for that, true, did you? Yeah?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: It reminds me of Norway saying left rack Iraq.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: First of all, in Jamaica, kid can tell you Jamaican's
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of us, especially back in the day We're
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: well read and we watch everything that's happening in the world.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: So you on a street corner in Jamaica can be
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: called televisions, Mmmm, televis like Israel. Israel in Jamaica have
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: street corners called Mexico, little New amongst yourselves, that Bush. Yeah,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that's just the street corner amongst ourselves, not like the
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: official government. So where I come from in the Waterford,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: you have Boston, you have Flatbush, you have Mexico, and
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: then you have Gaza, you know what I mean. So
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: we got the name literally from the Middle East.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: Is it given because of a reason?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because of that struggle man, something that emanated something.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these street corners in Jamaica
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: have those names, nicknames, you know what I mean. So
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: you have Red Square, that's where Sprague Benz is from.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: You know, Red Square is Russian. You got little London
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: down there, you got Mexico, you got Vietnam. In Seaview,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: we're bounty killers from Seaview. Mountain View, Yeah, mountain View.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: That No, those are real names. But on a street
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: corner in Seaview you would see because we graffiti the place,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: so you would see Vietnam. Yeah, yeah, who lives in
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: tel Aviv. Spragar Bens No, stel Aviv is South Spargo
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Bens lives in Red Square, which which is, like I said,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: the unofficial name for the corner, yeah, which is a
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Russian Yes, Spragar Bends, you know, big big entertaining in
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Jamaica to see View, mountain View. I've been to see Field,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: that's your Bountikulus, and I've been you've been to Tiffany.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I watched you saying you you went to Tiffany Gardens
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: with none of us. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I watched that ship. Bro. Your podcast is beginning. Prison
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: in the streets in Jamaica. Oh, come on, let's listen
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: to what you that's a wrapper as well.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I ain't gonna lie on man nor Yes,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: they told me, they said, man.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Because what what what? Yeah? Had to be going crazy.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't know, so I didn't know, like Jamaican love, I.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Gotta be rowdy. Yes, that's it, that's what. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: that's why I said. When you said Miami or l A,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I said New York right right, goddamn god damn yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: but I love Miami because it has the Jamaican climate, yes,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: and the palm trees. And we're very Caribbean here. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: it's very Caribbean. Can I say very Demian mirror?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 17: I don't know this, so it sounds very mindful. Yeah,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 17: moving on, Okay.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: So what is what is it?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Garnesses Garness, Garness, Garners Garner, like one of the most
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: dangerous hoods.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Garrison, Garrison, garrison, you know what garrison is. That's like
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: a forder. It's just a real word from Roman military,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: from the military military. Yeah, Garth, you was locked up.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: You went to the one of the toughest garrisons though,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I was telling you, pick me up, That's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: that's but but you were locked up.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: There and then that night when he when he came
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: to see you bust around, shot a video there that night.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: This nigga buster, the man came to the fucking prison
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: which is in another garrison called south Side. Okay that's
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: what I was trying to Yeah, okay, and he shot
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: the video outside the prison. I'm in the prison talking
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: to the g on my phone on my cell in
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: my cell like yeah, man, stand up there. So I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: gonna send two men called link her. So I'm telling him,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna send two dogs to come link and make
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: sure he's safe. And yeah, it was crazy man, Yo Buster,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Yo Buster, that's my brother, Big Buster. He's never scared man.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: He represents for Cartel, he represents for Dan Saw. Yeah,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: so big up, Buster. I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Not only there, but I remember when you first coming out,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: and I remember a Buster going on how to deceive
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: and literally tell people vibes, cattail, this is the next
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: man you please, you know, vibe.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I remember this ship from the beginning. He believes in
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: that man. He trust me, like not only believes in you,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: he like he loves you or something. Yeah. Right. Family
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: and family yeah yeah yeah man. And we spoke about
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: how you met, right yeah yeah yeah yeah. But once
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: he came to Jamaica, we was like instant because the respect.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: And you remember he's he's American, so it's both his
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: parents Jamaica. But he was born in Brooklyn, so he's
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: basically you can't tell him he's basically you're born in Brooklyn, Jamaica,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: even if your parents are from sucking Dubai, Brooklyn, you Jamaican.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: I'm in Miami. I couldn't get a craving agg. All
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: they had was this Brooklyn craving air sol on in
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: every gas. This is guineas, Yeah, Guineas. That's Jamaica, like
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: our stout dragon stuff, dragon beer. Redistricked. That's not from Irish. Yeah,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: but it's well, remember Jamaica is a British colony. It's
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: a British colony.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: A cigarette spoke a cigarette, thank you, sir, the.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Shout cigarette. You you If it's not the producer, you
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: can't say ship which is fucked up, No, which is
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: fucked up because it's not Jamaica. So I don't know
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: it's not Jamaican. No, that's what I said. If I
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: was in Brooklyn, I could have gotten the Jamaican cigarette,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: which is the craving, A craving air. You smooth the
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: craven agg. Even a comedian said that you have craving
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Even a comedian said it. The other day. The man
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, they are more Jamaicans in Brooklyn than Jamaica.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: And he's not lying.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a lot of white people that go
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: to Jamaica. Right now, they're saying that they might be
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans in a little while
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: for real, Yeah, Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans. So that's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: because they kicking on the perto Ricans out because of.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: The justification justification and.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Tax purposes because if you live there for yeah, so
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: if you lived there for more than six months or
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: seven months.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: You don't have to pay no US tax. That's crazy
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: because in Jamaica, I think they work out a deal
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: with the Chinese that you don't pay taxes on your
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: business for like five years. So say you're a Chinese guy, right,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: highly unlikely because you're a dark skick, but just say
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: you're a Chinese guy the Chinese.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: Let me, why do I keep using John?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Anyway you pay, you come to Jamaica, you open
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: a business, Say you get five years what do you
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: call it? Great speriod not to pay taxes. In the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: fourth year, you you send for your cousin from fucking
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Beijing the replacement and put him as the CEO of
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: the company. And the company so the company is not
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: paying tax for another five years, and they bring the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: next one after and then the next after, and.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: That's when you have the craziest Chinese Jamaica's Because.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Exactly I'm gonna be honest with you. I see I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: was white. You know this is just a fake bumba
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: clad that's not how we say.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: That was a construction site in Jamaica and then they
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: had nothing but Chinese workers coming out, and Jamaican guy
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, man, look they won't hire us.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: And so my thing is this, Okay, I have no
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: problem with Chinese nationalism. The problem I have is with
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: the lack of black people's nationalism. But we're not going
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: to go that the string champs. Yeah, we're not going
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: back to me that. Yes, they can do better, better,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: they can do better. We already spoke. He's just said
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: the government can do better. You don't want me to
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: go back to Jamaica government, No, but me and the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: government good. They dreating good. Like like I said, I
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: came out. I changed up my whole thing and I'm good.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm here now in Americas. The change that's man.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: And we know you're about to get married, but before that,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: let's talk about short boss. Yeah sh shot yeah two.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my baby mom. I've been to there since
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: before I got famous and rich. But I mean, like
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I said, you see, prison is dangerous because you know,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: when you go to prison, ship gets weird. And I'm like,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: I said, she held it for years and then she
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: couldn't hold it anymore. You're talking about your baby mom. Yeah, obviously,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: well we're talking about him. She she got caught slacking then. Yeah,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: but I still respect her still because I understand human beings.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Think about human nature. Okay, think about it. Your woman
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: is in prison, one year goes by. You know, let's
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: not use you. You look like you what a woman?
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: This woman is like this should look like by the house.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's true.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Think about it.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: People that love me like she I'm sure she loved
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: me because she wrote it me. Even when she was slacking,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: I could still jump on my phone in prison. Surely
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: go to the bank, shorty, make sure the lawyer gets
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: that pay this bill, give this person money. And she
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: was there right through. But come on, I mean, prison
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: for fucking thirty years. What do you expect her to do?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Like save the pussy. It's not a hedge funt, you know.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but I forgave her immediately because I understand.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: But I just had to move on, right, that's what
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: That's right, that makes sense. I'm big up to them.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: She's actually hire. No, she's in Lauderdale because I left
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: her in lawd of that. Okay, yeah, that's sort of
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: mature of you too. She gave me three sons, Come on,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: big up shot. I love she made me cry.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, man, And that's what people love about me
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: because I just speak my truth and when I'm living
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: music that I only live once. Man. So how you
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: found my other baby mother? My life is crazy? Seriously,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: My other baby mother told me you're fucking hyping up shorty.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: She fucking some guy like literally, no, I didn't you know?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Matter are idiots? Cloud. I'm like, you know, that's what
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, yeah, yeah, she gave me my sons.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: They do music to live the music. And the other
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: baby mom that told me the snitch, but she gave
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: me a nice stot. But yeah, I mean, well, I'm
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: just living, man, and I take the good, the bad,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: the ugly. Yeah. Man, it's what everybody who was on
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: watch right, Like, you know, from the outside looking in,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: it looks like you never cracked. It looked like you
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: never know. While I was in prison, No, like I said,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I cried twice honestly when Shorty her mom died because
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Shorty's short boss when her mom died, because she was
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: at every every court, every time I was in court,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: she was there, even when I told her, don't come
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: still show still there, bro Bro. I cried like a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: bitch man when she died. And also when Match's mom died,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: because those women are like, she's in the community. You
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: know you know what I meantriarch. Yeah, yeah, the matriarchs
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: even even daper slices mom. Jamaica runs even those days
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: when we was not behaving ourselves and when the cops
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: came like that was mom was naked. Like you're like,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: they're in a sense, fuck like leave the community. Like
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: Jamaica is another beast man. Yeah, it's crazy. So and
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: the women they represent for us, all right, yeah so
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: the black women. Yeah, man is what it is. No
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: one smokes. I've never seen someone. No, I think, well,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: it's a different beast man. Well he's my favorite comedian.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah we were.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: You were in a fucking Yeah. I watched that he
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: was star Yeah and that that's both death. Yeah, your
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: most he's like a sizzler, a bunch of bank How
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: he raps he's like like he's deep, very without trying,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: without trying, like it's very not. That was a good
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: interview though, with with most death Dave Chappelle and Talib.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you know he didn't like Kanye was breaking
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: about his hat.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Oh Talib, Yeah yeah, he seems like he's a funked
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: up guy. Well this music is amazing, yeah man, yea.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Even Dave said it, like this thing is fucking yeah
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: about He's like Jordan. I was watching an interview with
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Chamellionaire the first time he met Jordan's and Jordan he
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: was like, Jordan, can I take a picture? And Jordan's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: that nigga you got money or some ship? Yeah. The
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: stories about Jordan's he you know the funny story about
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: about him. I think it was Jada Kiss was saying
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: he was everyone and was like, yo is this like
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: he picked up, like is this dude with you? And
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Jada was like, nah, you know he has that resk Like.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: Nah, I know that nigga.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: He said, you went back to the I was like,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: you reworking, bro. I never know.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 18: That's crazy man, you he's an ja Yeah man, yeah, yeah,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 18: that's crazy man. Yeah, So shout out Nor, shout outa.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: He spoke to him, Jaya, Yes, while I was in
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: the National Stadium in Jamaica. Why someone put him on
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: FaceTime Wow and we was talking.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I'm just being honest.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: When you say you're the world boss, it means it, man,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: it means it. I mean, like you said earlier, you
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: said the people who named you that.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Yes. I like.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: The thing about it is, you know everyone in here,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: it's every nationality and this goddamnit, yes man, because everybody
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: wanted to be here to make sure we give you your
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: flowers because you deserve this.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: You are the world Boss. Yeah.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: I like that, and we're so happy, Like you know,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: it's so inspiration for a person, you know, from the
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: hood that can maybe make it wrong turn, take that
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: turn and then come home and then re established. Like
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear you complain, No, no, I didn't hear you.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: No bitterness. I hate you home, went straight back. And
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: it's amazing.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: It's amazing, like to see what you're doing, to see
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: how people are following you.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: And it's real. It's like you don't even have to
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: you don't have to claim your thrown no no, no no, no,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: people claim it for you.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Thank you sir.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: And that's that's what's crazy about it, you know what
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: But there's anything you will I know you say you
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: don't have no regrets, but there's anything you thought you
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: could do better.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: What was one of those things? Watch short Boss Pussy Moore.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I should have put the dudes on her, like driving eyes,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: like undercover fucking agent to watch the pussys. That's time
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest. When I met see them,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: that's my current fiance. It was twenty fifteen, twenty fifth Yeah,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: I met while us in jail, Yeah, in Oka. And
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: at that time, me and Shurety was going through a
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: lot because remember I'm in prison, I'm fighting graves disease.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Even now I have it. That's why I wear my
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: shades because sometimes like even now we're smoking, my eyes
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: will irritate me. My eyes will get swollen. Yeah, straight up,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: because we're human, you know what I mean. And Shorty
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Sidem was there for me, and like I said, I
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: understand Shorty's perspective. Think about this, you're in prison. Two years,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hold it. And she did three years,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: four years, five years, six seven Roh eight Nigga nine
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Dog ten come on, man, So that's for me, Like,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: I'm a realist. And what was you originally sentenced to?
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: How many years? Thirty fucking five? Man? It was like, yeah,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: thirty five before parole. So I would have if things
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: went out they want, I would still be in prison. So,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: like I said, and Sidem was there for me. She
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: was We spoke on the whole night of the night,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: days on days she was there. And in Jamaica, when
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: someone represents for you while you're in prison, you don't
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: forget that you're going to hell. So but my thing
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: is this, I understand people, which is one of the
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: things that has made me be a great artist. I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: understand people, human nature. So I could never be angry
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: with my baby mom. I love her, still respect her
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: because she raised my kids and based on the person
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: that I was, a lot of people would expect my
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: children to be gangsters in the streets, shooting guns whatever whatever.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: She held them down. None of my sons. Like I said,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I was in prison with Mavada's son, who is my
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: son's best friend. A lot of people don't know that.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: So even when me and Mavada was at it fighting,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: the whole Jamaica was divided like his son and my
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: son were crazy. I'm telling you, bro. Even when I
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: was in prison, Madams like, yo, say hi to Jahim
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. So yeah, big old, big old Movada's son.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: Enough respect, enough love to the Gully God. Yeah man,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: it's yeah free. I want to talk about that.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: I want to talk about that period because I feel
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: like we just breathed period.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: That's a monthly thing for time. I want to talk
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: about that time. We just breezed over it. So that time.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that, yeah, Gaza versus Gully. You know,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: it got so serious where the government had to The
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: government stepped in. They weren't giving us permise to do concerts.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: They shut that ship down.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: They were like, bro, but funny enough, when Mavado and
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: I were at the the King's House, which is where
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: the government is. So we were there and they were like, yo,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: you need to shut this down. Let the kids know,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: because the kids took it very serious. Like he is
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: small Tupac two point zero in Jamaica. I'm not even joking.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I remember you know that he knows that. And the
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: government was like, bro, we will shut you guys down.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Stop talking about But them times when they took a
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: break in the meeting and me and my father was
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: in the government building and we were like, yo, look
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: where music brought us. And that's when we had a
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: moment and it was like, yo, we need to fix this.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: And we did it. For a few months. The war
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: started again. Why black people and we have ego and
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: we come from blocking and now we're rich, so you know,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: you know what black man and his ego. Of course
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: we have something to prove. Well, yeah, man, And we
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: did the fighting again round two. The government came in.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: They did us, I mean they shut down everything. And
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: then does us tiffany y Yeah, he was like, yo,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: let me speak to you guys. And we did the
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: meeting and it was like yo, for real, man, we
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: need to chill. When does us come soon? Right? Yeah?
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: He got arrested in twenty ten, become there. It was
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: a big thing in Jamaica. A lot of people died
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: and oh yeah yeah, yeah, a lot of people coming
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: home soon. Right, Yes, he should be. I don't know when,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I thought they had It's crazy man,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: that Dan Saul is. The people in Jamaica, they love them,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: so they take music serious. Yeah, which is good because
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: That's why if you're a star in Jamaica, you're a
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: star forever. You have no expiration date. That's how much
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: you look. You revered right right, Yes, you're revered like
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: this worship like next to Jesus. You know what I mean,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: what was it like?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: If you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star all
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: over the world. That's because I just being honest, as
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: your cousin, I see the influence that Jamaica has around
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: the world, around the world, not just as entertainers.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Remember Mark, Marcus Gary, he told the entire Latin America
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: that's why we begin Panama, we begin Latin America. Costa
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: Rica Venezuela is from Jamaica. He's Jamaican. He's not from Jamaica,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: but yeah, but yeah, he has this Jamaican heritage because remember,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: like I said, funny enough, Marcus Garvey, you know who
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: was his right hand man, Elijah Muhammad. You used to
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: run the Detroit office of the U n I A
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: for Marcus. Really, no joke, I kid you not. That's crazy.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Jamaican have always had that influence in
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: America with our customs to African America. You've always had
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: that influence, you know what I mean. So, and like
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: I said, uh, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad was Marcus Larv's
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: point man in Detroit.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: And for people that don't know, that's the founder of
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: the Nation of Islam exactly.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Xu's father was Marcus darvis right hand man. You know,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: they tied into a train track and let the training. Yes,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: it's crazy man, Yeah, how can you remember you weren't there? Yeah?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Malcolm Mexican Autobiography, yeh, that's where I read.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Look, Yes, look At, look At. You can tell that
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: there's influenced by Yeah, it's literally by Look malcome xt
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: the Pose, which is the album Bob Marley did Disposed
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: as well. So I'm sure he was into because Bob
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Marley sang a lot of Marcus Larvae philosophies, put it
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: to music, and he puts high the speech that he
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: made at this philosophy the United Nations sometimes it wasn't
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: called the United Nations, it was called I don't remember
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: United Nas, United Niggas. So Bob Marley. That's that's why
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: Bob Marley so powerful, because you know he's mixed. Is
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: that is why why it's glad we had to navigate
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: through that racial tension back in the day when in
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the seventies, in Jamaica sixties, if you were light skinned,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: you were kind of frowned upon. Yeah, so man, we
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: love Bob though like our generation respect Bob. He represented
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: for Marcus Larvey, he represented for Selassie. I highly Selassie. Yeah,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: even when I was in La like ef the Opians,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: they came to the hotel contact we love you.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me ask you access to Chris Brown.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Oh represent big up Chris Brown. He won fucking yeah.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: My favorite song on the album is Residual. So who
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: said yes I knew? Yes, yeah, big up Chris Brown. Man. Yeah,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: so ask Chris Brown, why do I not have a drink?
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: And come on, come on, you slacking?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: You know brownie light skin girls in Jamaica we call
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: them brown and famous. When he did Brownie Broom, the
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: whole Jamaica wanted to fucking there was like and then
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: he did black Women, a song called black Woman, remember
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: you know stop Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, so that's it.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: It's crazy bro dying. Saw you set the trend? Yes,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: and we we we navigate the culture. Yes, so big
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: big up legend them, okay.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Before I get into this, right yeah. Now the second festival, yes,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: Freedom Street, Yeah, oh ship you said London, right, Okay,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: let's forward to the third to the third one. Yes,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: let's say it's in Miami. Yeah, who would you put
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: book on that?
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Freedom caught up black?
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: And he's Caribbean as well.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Locations in Jamaica and Haitians have always been because Caribbean
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: the most powerful countries in the Caribbean. Jamaica, HEDI Trinidad,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: remember Haitian Black Yeah, New York Okay, So yeah, Jack,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: it's sorry, it's the Fuckingian Jack right, yes, sir. Yeah.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: And the culture is really in the Caribbean man, and
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: we share the love. Yes, I was in Trinidad the
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: other day. I was launching the Straight Vibes. So we
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: launched in Trinidad, Guyana, Barbados, Saint Lucia and I'm doing
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: the same kids music festival, so we launching it there.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: If you heard that's when you when you came home
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: at first we heard you was in Saint Kits.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, St. Vincent Us. I want to visit the
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister. He sent from his private chess everything right now, yeah, yeah,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: I am. I am I'm starting Jackie because he does
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: his own stunts, right. Because so, yeah, we went to
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: Saint Vincent, met the Prime minister. He calls himself world Boss,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: the the Prime Minister of Saint Vincent. Fucking fun fact,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: I got a call from the Prime Minister of Guyana.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: He was like cartel me and you is the world
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: bar not that guy. Yeah, because that's how that's that's
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: what that's what I'm saying. It's like the unity among
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: among the Caribbean islands. It's like Japan, you know, they
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: have like a million islands, but they're still Japanese. Like
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: okay now when I was okay, now a supporter, you
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's how the Caribbean is.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: We have that unity, you know, the calypso the danceau
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: at least some of the English speaking couray Man bring
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Cuban in there, bro we need That's why I said.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: You notice, that's why I said English. The Cubans and
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: Jamaicans are still.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: There's a part of Cuba that there's a lot of Jamaicans.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Nine out of ten doctors in Jamaica Cuba. Yeah, because
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: you know they do good medicine, right, Yeah, because they
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: get it from the Soviets. Well not Soviet now, because
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: that ship is all US Russian, remember us SR Right, yeah,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Reagan fuck that ship up. Do you eat doubles? Doubles?
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: I love doubles. Doubles is like fucking no, seriously, doubles
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: in Trinidad. It's like jerk chicken in Jamaica. That's why
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: when you said jerk chicken or coury chicken, I had
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: to take the shot. Right. Oh, I like that girl?
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: Is she? Oh no, we lime in. She knows you real,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: pretty gal. That's my best triming impression ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: we lime in dread. I know, dream chimps. You fuck
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: with doubles? What's your favorite version of doubles? My favorite
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: version of doubles is the one that that dude don't like.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: But seriously though, well yeah, like when I've been to Barbados,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: I had shark, yeah, bacon shark. Yeah. In Jamaica we
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: have crocodiles. You can eat the crocodile tail. Never had that.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: This is Florida. I'm sure you guys you don't eat
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: I tell you, yeah, how the crocodile. That's racist, that's
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: that's preggator. That's here you. Yeah, but yeah, that's how
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: we do it. Yeah, I mean s yeah, yeah, I know, yeah,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: So can you explain to people that listen to this,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: listen to the reggae music and listen to the dancehold
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: music and listen to the culture. You can love reggae,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: you can love dancehol You don't have to.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Be a ra no no, okay, oh no. Even Morgan
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: heritage they had a big song in Jamaica. You don't
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: have to dread be rasta because remember this is the dreads.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is fucking fake, but it's it's human here.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: I got this from my brothers in Africa. I don't
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: know who died and oh my god, yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: But reggae music is a for Jamaica's so is dansall
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: because remember, like I said, Dan Saull came out in
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: the seventies, seventy four, seventy five, seventy six. I was
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: born in seventy six, so I'm a product of Dan
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Saul And also the Cold War because remember the US
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: A sorry say, they had that thing and that's what
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: honestly brought that level of violence to Jamaica and changed
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: the culture and then when the violence came, you needed
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: an art for him to express it. And that's how
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: the Dan Shaul was burned. Who were those first early
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: dance artists in the seventies, King Stitch, Bigyud which big
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: youth son is the lawyer that got me free?
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, he's one.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: Of the first DJs. Wow, and his son freed the
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: number one DJ or isat Mechanic right. Think about that,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. The appeal and when he was in law school,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: he was telling his friends that I'm gonna free fives
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: cartel and he actually did, actually did. What what is it?
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: The l what is it? The T j P, j
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: l P and the P and P and the j
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: l P is the political.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: Which the Labor Party. They were conservative minigans.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were conservatives.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 19: They were recon at the time.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 5: So you have you have basically like Russia's camp and
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: pn P.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: Basically that's why P and P even to this day
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: we called they called themselves socialists.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 5: Right, that's why you're saying started Yeah from the.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: Cold War, remember just like the Nicarago with the contrast
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: the Sandinist underneath us Sandonist. So it was that proxy
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: were all over the place happened in Congo to with
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: with Lomba happened in Kenya with So it's that they
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: like you know what I mean?
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: You know the teacher man, I am, you know teaching.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my program. I saw the people love me because
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: they they know they believe in me because I'm not
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: going to bullshit them. I keep it real and I
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: seen my truth since I grew up in Jamaica. My
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: truth is Jamaica's truth. It is what it is. So
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: let me actually write for Jamaica. I'll give it right
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: back to you.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: Ros right, So let me ask you when when when
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: Esketball was locked up? Right, they said that like one
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: night every two or three months, he would come out,
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: he would do something.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, within your thirteen years, I've got lots of oh damn.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 4: There, right, question.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: If you had like how Essketball did he came out
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: one night every two months? If you ever had one
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: night about yeah problem, I'm sorry.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to ask you what I As
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, remember you said Vibe Cartell was
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: the group where you think you got the cartel. Yeah, yes,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: from escob Cali Calie Cartel. Yes. Yeah. So if you
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: like with every two months.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: If you can come out and do one thing, but
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: in your thirteen year bid, what was that one thing
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: you would do?
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: My kids? Man, damn, that's the thanks to my kid
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: post wasn't the problem. I don't know if I can
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: say this now you can say you can Yeah that
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: sound free? Yeah right, double jeopardy. You can't take you back.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, pushy wasn't a problem. Pushy was Oh god, no,
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: not all the time, but yeah, yeah, ver y, yeah exactly.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that's the only thing because remember in
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: Jamaican prisoners, if it's not family Day, you're u and
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: can't come and see you Oh wow, because if you
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: if you're not eighteen years old, you can't come to
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: visit me on a regular day. They have things that
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: they keep on family Day, which is like in Christmas,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you need to see your
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: kids Easter. Yeah, so we got like to twice a year.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: I got to sell my see my kids. Wow. Yeah,
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: so that's crazy. But like women whatever, that's but that
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't on the top of my to do list. My
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: to do list was to raise my fucking kids, even
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: from behind even from behind bars. And that's why I
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: say to you. My baby mom, like shorty, I give
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: her her props. She did made sure even though I
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: was who I was, my kids didn't emulate my lifestyle.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. My daughter like she wants
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: to be a dog because she's Yeah, she's doing well
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: in school and so on. So that's what I respect
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: about my baby mother's. They weren't just they put in
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: the world respect. Yeah, I got it. How many kids
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: total that I got, like seven? Seven? I have to
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, you know, in flat Bush. That's what I'm saying.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: That's why when you said Miami or I said New York,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: I got My children are in Flatbush. I've got two
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: sons in flat Bush right now.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, blood.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: Forever. You know, Brooklyn is Little's Jamaica. Even though you're
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: a queen's nigga block you fifty Nikki Love. Come on,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: come on, that's it. That's it man. Yeah, I know.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: You say you don't regret nine, and I can't because
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: I'm still alive at for nine years old. What the
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: fuck is there to regret? Come on, man, I came
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: out a person Freedom Street. I kept Freedom Street with
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: this white guy from Jamaica is called Joe Bogdanovich. He's
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: not from Jenaicas, so obviously it's from California, which is Scatter,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: my other road manager. He's a yeah, so we were yeah,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: but we planned Freedom Street from behind bars. That's how
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: confident I was that I was coming out my fiance
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: see them. I sent for her in twenty twenty two.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm living in Jamaica. She's from English.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: She was like, oh my god, I don't know girl.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: Richie fuck Richards fuck. So she came. I got her apartment,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: got her arrange over, gave her some money, opened her
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: bank account, and she came because, like I said, I've
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: known her since twenty fifteen. So she came to Jamaica. Yeah. Yeah,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: and she's been here ever since. She's with me. Now
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: she's in Lauderdale, right, Yeah, yeah, she was there and
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: this is all I know. She was real. Even when
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: I came out and I started posting her more often.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: Her friends from England was like, Yo, the high school
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: see them would be proud of you because since she
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: was in high school, she was like, oh god, I'm
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: gonna marry Vibe Cartel. Oh bro, I'm serious. He's like
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: a fucking a Netfeix fucking series. Right, have a girl again? Yeah?
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well one burner in Jamaica. One burner.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: It's kind of derogatory because that means you only have
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: one woman, and in Jamaica that's fucking frowned upon. Yeah,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: like what the fuck you're doing? Yeah, so big up
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: seem She was like, well looked hard for me. Yes,
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: when you left.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: Your kids was in single digits.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I left prison, they was children. When I
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: came out, they gave me grandchildren. You're writing my interview, Yes, crazy,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: congratulations grandchildren? Yeah, set my daughter because you know I
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: would slapped the ship out of her. I'm joking. It's alcohol.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 5: He's like, funny, not funny, not funny.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's a genius though she like she's an
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: A grade student. She's like a head girl of prefect whatever.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: She wants to be a doctor, So I told her
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: she needs to invent something better than viagra.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 4: Right, I wasn't. So how did the chepherd smile it?
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: How does it feel to be your grandfather? How liquory?
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 4: How feel?
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: Because they were single digits and they got double dish
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: and they gave you, How did it feel when they told.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: You you're gonna be your grandfather. It was amazing. I
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't in prison at the time, so I've never seen
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: my grandson. So when they kept the family day, which
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: is when you can bring your family there, So they
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: came and my grandson he met me, he was like, yeah,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know you nigga. You know what I mean, crying,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: and Ship gave him a piece of chicken. He took
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: the chicken. Yeah, I still don't know your nigga. Well,
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: it was crange. So when I came out, he like,
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: that's when he started embracing me because he saw how
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: his dad, his mom and everybody that he knew embraced me.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: So it was like, oh, fucking man, Yeah, this nigga
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: is fucking gray beards and yeah. Yeah. So and then
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: my son gave me a granddaughter. Oh, then my other
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: son gave me another granddaughter. Yeah, you three grand I
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: got three grand children from my two sons. I got one. Oh,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: but you're America, don't don't you know? He's America's different.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: Just it's crazy. So yeah, I got to big them up.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 9: Goddamn Yeah, crazy little bro. I like drinks, shamp not
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 9: just for the drinks. Ship, Yeah, Drink Drink.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: Champ is everything I thought it would because, like I said,
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: I was in prison watching everything. I watched the Neil
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: in the Bush if you did the Bean Mane, I
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: watched all of that like that and not just me
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: at the entire prison. Yes, you watched Black No, I
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: respect him. You call the black is like I said,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: he's Asian. He's fucking crazy. That's the Caribbean breeze. I
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: think something is in the wind makes us fucking crazy. Bro,
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: Cardi B. You write Cardi B to your wedding? Yes, yes,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: I would love her to be who else you wanted
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: to perform at your wedding? But abant and I told
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: you that he is my number one.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: Artists and spoken and since you've been out, yeah, but
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: but we haven't met up really, No, I'm serious.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: I met bond te Killer when he was at fucking
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: Freedom Street. That's the first time I saw him since
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: I came up. Remember this guy made me. Yeah that's
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: that's what Killer said. Here's the kid down. Yeah yeah, yes, yeah,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: But like that Bounty, I'm the king of dan Saw,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: but Bounty is the king of artists. Think about it.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: This man met so many people. If you know the Bible.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: He's like Abraham because remember Abraham created the beginning Islam.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: Andrews that's what they call Yeah, think about it. That's yeah,
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: Bountikill his father Abraham.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, bro, Yo, you know what.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 4: Give me the class for question? Bounty, I'm telling.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: You so being the man, bigger, theself beloved, your catmember,
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: Like I can't lie, I'd rather not say ship. So,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: like I said, Bounty, being a bog Ninjaman cartel. That's
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: the top five for me. I love, that's the top
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: for me and me. Why would I least be out
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: Big up my manager TJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Scat
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: that's my road manager. But with TJ, we call him
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: the grnch. And this is why. No, he steals happiness,
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: which is good because remember you know, we're artists. If
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: you leave us unattended, we funck ourselves up. So that's
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: why he's the balance, you know what I mean? So
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: big up t J. He's the grinch, Like, yeah, yeah,
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: we got to give him props. He keeps me grounded,
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: he keeps me focused, and he keeps me in check.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: The eye on the prize, yeah, the eye on the prize.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: But he's not sit there. Fuck you.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 4: Nigga's my bro.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: That's why we finished this interview.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: I want to play your record because I need on
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: the record.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: Gotta take another shot if you don't have to take
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: it one.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: No, I just want to take some more this fever.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: I want to take some more of this fever has
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: to fucking what this hey look look on supported by
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: a feminist. Yes, yes, yes, but let me just send
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: you something.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 4: I've cheered you like five times.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: The Champagne is at the same height, keeps feeling that's
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: so much dreams Champage. That's what she's very fucking I
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: like her. She's she's the official. Yeah yeah, yeah, you.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 4: Know you're huge in Jamaica.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Jamaica.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 4: You need to come to Jamaica.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: I'm coming. I was not not not Montego Bay should
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: do this this with you. I know, I know, I
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: know you think so that we was going to see you,
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: and then the next twenty minutes they said, but we
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: were all our way to see you was in Montgo Bay.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: But it's a tourist part. We have the streets. We
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: was ready to love, you know. But that's what I'm
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: saying Kingston and Montego Bay is one and the same.
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: It's just like New York l A, No, you're ready
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: to go. It's like Brooklyn. We was Compton. The hood
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: is everywhere before the fucking TJ. Yeah when the white
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: gentrification t J. Can you sit over there, because he've
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: been looking for you for ye yeah, yeah. Right in Jamaica.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: The number one meme in Jamaica is ats TJ. Because
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: everything I say, I'm like, that's the number one memes
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: Jamaica right now. But he's my manager, yes, yeah, and
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: this is why I see. My first manager was the
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: guy that introduced me to Bounty Killer. Remember I was
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: telling you so that drove you to them? Yeah? Ok,
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: and he was your manager then after Yeah, he's old
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: fucking n Nissan Okay, and I do the American pronunciation.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: Nissan was Nissan your blood. So I partied wasted him
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, two thousand and four, and I've been
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: my own manager since. So everything I've done and then
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: all the greatness, all the dyanceaung greatness, I did it
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: by myself. When I came out, I made him my
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: manager because I've known him since he was in high school.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, in Jamaica, you have the ghetto
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: at a hardcore fire and then you have the up.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: We call it uptown. Uptown in Jamaica means you grew
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: up privileged. That my children, Okay, I grew up privilege
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: because I started making money. Well, I'm from the ghetto.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: He grew up privilege. So his father is from the ghetto,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: made sure his children grew up good, right right fire. Yeah,
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: So when I met him, he was just out of
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: high school and he kept he had a big annual
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: event called orientation. So you know that's about school orientation, right.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: It's a school party dance where you dressed up in
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: your school uniform if you went to fucking whatever yet.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: So my nickname was the Teacher and that's how I
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: met him. So and he was like, yo, I'm keeping
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: a party. I want the teacher to pass through because
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: it's called Orientation. Then he started producing. I gave him
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: his first record. He got Idonia, which is also a
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: big artist in Jamaica, and then he became a famous producer. Yeah, exactly, Skata,
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: which is my road manager. He's actually here as well.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: He introduced me to Idoni. So and then we get,
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: We showed the love, give the respect, because Bro Bounty
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: Killer made me fucking rich, so I don't have a
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: problem to pay forward, right, BUNTI Killer made me be
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: able to take care of my family, move them out
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: the ghetto, put them in some fucking mansions, So then
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: we pay forward. So Scatter brought me to Idonia. I
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: brought Idonia to Bounty Killer, and the rest is history,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when's the last time you spoke to America?
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: Blood? I haven't you rolled this? Should I smoke you
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: down if you fucked me up? American embassy in Jamaica. No,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: but you're American, so my ship is legal to make
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: him get Boris boris is. So basically, you're telling me
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: that this is only tobacco. Okay, thank you, it's only
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: tobaccos tonight. It's only tobacco. Yes, and you know how
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: slavery was tobacco is king. Yes. Disclaimer. If you're not black,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: you can't say nigger your vibes. I want to exclaimer.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: I want to, you know, commend you because I see
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: when you first came home, when you're battling graves disease. Yeah,
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: and now you did the show and you're looking amazing,
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: You're feeling great. Yeah, who could you contribute that to? No.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: First of all, that's an amazing question because in the
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: black community, speaking on illness is like taboo, right, because
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: we had we had to be strong, especially mental illness, right.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: And I spoke on that the other day. But that's
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: a good question. While I was in prison, I was
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with Graves disease in twenty fourteen. Can you explain
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: what it is for people? Graves disease is the autoimmune disease.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: It affects your particular pituary glands. And I said, surely
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: because I'm drunk. But I would say this though, Jamaicans,
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: you know this statement time drunk? What time? The fool?
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: So Grave disease. It's an autoimmune FIRAID disease that affects
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: your it. It makes you sweat a lot, it makes
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: you your heart palp delicate, it makes your eyes swollen.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: That's why I keep wearing my shape. Well, I used
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: to wear my shades because I learned from boundary kills.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: But it's very dangerous. Remember I was in prison, I
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: was battling Graves disease. I was I had to balance
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: my career. I had to keep my family in check,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: I had to keep my relationship in check. I had
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: to be producing music. So anyone that has Graves disease,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: I think Missy Elliott's had it too, Okay, oh yeah, yeah,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: we're human, bro, And a lot of people think because
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: you are artists, wo are superhuman, which we are, but
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: we still get affected. So I just want people to
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: know that whatever illness you have, but it's Graves disease,
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: or it's cancer with it's HIV, whatever, don't be afraid
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: to embrace it and live your life because you only
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: have one. I think Earth gott Et passed away Earth before.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: That's young bro. Yeah, and this is sort of the millennials,
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: the gen Z. When I was like fourteen fifteen, back
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: in the day, I thought that fifty years old was old,
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: right Bro, I'm forty nine. I feel as young at
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: forty nine years Well, I feel as young as ever, right. Yeah.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: All you need to do is take care of yourself,
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: eat properly, drink plenty water, have sex a lot, then
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: you'll be I it is what it is. But yeah,
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: but like I said, man having an illness shouldn't be taboo.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: Those were humans we live, we die. So if you're sick,
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: whether it's a mental problem, talk to someone, right. If
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: I did a video the other day about mental health,
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: that's huge, man, Yeah, because a lot of us, especially
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: the ones that joy to people, are the ones that's
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: suffering the most. Because I'm looking at Norriy. You bring
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: joy to me because I grew up listening to you.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 1: Even though you're not older than me, but you get
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: you play an important role in a specific part of
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 4: You understand does not.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but we're still human, right, vulnerable and if
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: you if you're vulnerable, don't be afraid to speak to
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: people because that's a lot. That's one of the problems
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: with the African American and the Africa Caribbean community because
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: it's the move. Yeah, we feel like we've got to
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: be shot all the time. No, you can be vulnerable.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: You can talk to your mother, you can talk to
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: your girlfriend. But then then why do you love her? Bro?
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: Why do you love her and spend money on her
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: and put her in your fucking house? But you're afraid
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: to talk to your woman?
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 20: Bro?
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: It's real, you know what I mean? Taking a shot
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: to that, Yeah, bro, ship listens.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 19: But yeah.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: Oh oh the shot empresses here. Yes, that's your new nickname. Brohut,
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: that's real. Like I said, I sing my truth. That's
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: why I mentioned even graves disease in my song because,
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: like I said, bid it inflames your body. That's why
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: when I came out, you don't have that inflammation in
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: my face, my stomach. But Bro, we're human beings. I
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: have no shame in my game. Man, Like I speak
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: my truth, it is what it is. Black people and
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: black people take fucking certain illnesses as taboo. We're afraid
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about it because we were raised to be talking.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: Oh you're a strong black woman. Why can't you be
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: a femine in black women and talk to your man?
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: M hmm, talk to your friend? Why you have to
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: be a g like all the time, I can't talk
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: to FN, a black FN. My dick isn't working properly.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, no, this is serious,
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: this is serious. I'm not twenty nine, I'm forty nine.
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: Why can't I come to you, feel my Brison? Why
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: trying I come to you? Like, Bro, I'm having problems
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: with my wife because we have issues surrounding sex. I
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: can only pop off once per night. Why can't I
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: talk to your ownership? And and you made me feel
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: comfortable talking about it's just what AAA is. Triple A
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: is right, Hi, I'm vibe scar Tel, I'm an alcoholic
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: or I'm vibe scar Tell, I'm a whatever. Once black
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: people get expec us as black people based on our
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: historical trauma, we're supposed to be able to speak to
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: one another. Bro, Come on, man, it's we only leave once. Bro.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: Everybody is dead. Yeah, yeah, that's a piece of he's
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: not broke, he's rich, but he's dead. Michael Jackson is dead.
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 1: You can't take the weakness yet. We we as black people,
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: we need to be able to speak to each other,
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: if you're right, And I learned this while in prison,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: because anyone in Jamaica can tell you. Before in prison,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: I was a fucking devil. But growth matulready taught me
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of things. We need each other. That's why
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: they make these groups and these a A and group
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: therapy is good because you're going through something that I'm
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: going through. So you have questions and I have questions.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe you have the answer for some questions. Oh why
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: did she cheat on me? I did everything right, you
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: can maybe impart some knowledge onto why because you've been
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: there before me, right, so you figured it out before.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: It's bro, we living man one hundred years some now
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: we're gone, you know what I mean. That's that's the
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: mindset I have now. No ready, hold woman before you
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: get to that. Yeah, man, that's drink oh ship, that's
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: the mindset I have now.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 15: Bro respects Yeah, man, yeah, it's not that.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: What's look I hooked them up. Man. What what was
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: the feeling when they said you live in the jail, man,
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 1: how was that feeling getting? I'm from the ghetto, so
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: you can't hide me up. So when the lawyer said
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: to me you're free, I was in prison. I was
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: in my cell talking on myself. And when no, seriously
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: and when Alexandra labich Is, I said, right hand, she
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: said to me, I'm free, but I've been in prison
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: thirteen years. I didn't want to hear from you, with
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: all due respect, I wanted to hear from eye sights. Yeah,
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: because he's the one that I'm paying, right. And when
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: he called me and said I was free, bro, man,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: not on the front tears, Bro, I fucking cried, Oh
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: fuck you if you think that's bitch. I'm gonna answer what, bro, No,
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: you can't show I'm tough enough. Man, That's right.
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 4: Anyone that knows me and Jamaica knows that I'm not
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 4: no fool.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm in because you know, look, you know,
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: I tried to play it off so cute, yo, lory.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: I tried to play it off, but hes man, because
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: think about it. I couldn't cry while I was in prison.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: I had to take care of my family, by parents,
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: my children, a lot of people around me, plus the
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: guys that I was charged with, So I had no
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: time to be weak because all of them was coming
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: to me. Oh Jesus Chris, when are you coming out? Yeah?
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: What I mean? So I had to be shown for everyone.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: There is even a meme in Jamaica where I say
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: as TJ because when he used to call me like, well,
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: think about this, I'm in prison, yeah, sending money to
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: my back, to Western Union, to people in America, to
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 1: people in England. Look, that's my responsibility and I had
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: to do it. People were dying around me. We were
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: fucking in prison, losing money money, but yeah, man, like
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: I have, I was fighting for my freedom, for my life,
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: for my health, right to keep my family, to keep
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: my woman from giving away the pussy. That's a serious no, bro,
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: that's serious man. She's actually moved on. No, I don't know. Yeah,
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: I moved on. Take care of her, Okay, I say,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: take care of all my baby I'm a Jamaican. You're
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: either a fucking asshole or you're a good person. There's
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: no in the middle. Listen, you're either a fucking pussy
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: or you're a real one. That's what Jamaica vibes vibes
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: on some New York ship. How how does Sadam feel
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: about you taking care of all the baby moms? Well,
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: initially she was not cool, but when I explained it
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: to her and she saw the predicament my family was
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: because remember, you know, I'm the breadwinner. I made the million.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: We're talking about us now, I made the millions. Why
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: would I want to see my baby mam suffer? Even
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: though when I was in prison going through the worst
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: time of my life, she let me do. But it's
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: human nature. If you don't believe in forgiveness, you're a
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: fucking bro. You shouldn't need to be alive. Bro. Wow,
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: we made mistakes, Bro, Okay, you all right, you believe
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: in forgiveness, So why why you didn't just stay with
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: her then? Because I'm a man first, and I told
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: her I was there with you. I'm like, I'm coming out,
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: coming out. I lost my trial. She was there, I'm
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 1: coming out. I lost my Jamaican appeal. She was there.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm coming out. But before the British appeal could happen,
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: she just gave it. And I can't blame her for that.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: If she was in prison, I would be fucking which
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: is the first day she had arrested, right, So how
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: can I hate her? Think about this? Man, Think about it,
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: bro Think about this. She had got arrested on the
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: first of January after I brought her fucking things to
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: the first So we got to keep it real. And
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: that's what the problem with a lot of us as
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: black people are. Egos are high, and I get it.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: We've been through a lot, so we need to prove.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: You know this, Frank, fucking Tom don't need to prove shape,
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: but Jai Kwan and fucking Omar, I need to prove shit,
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 1: right because that's how we were raised. We need to prove.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't need to prove nothing. She gave me three
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: sons bro, so I couldn't violate her. But what Sitdem
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: brought to me was peace right. She made me calm.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: She made me not feel the need the fucking oh
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She made me That's the
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 1: best thing I met her. Twenty fifteen, July twenty fifth,
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. And that time I'm saying before that,
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: me and my baby mama was going through a lot.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: I did an album for short It's literally called to
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 1: Tunisia because her government is Tannisia. The album is to Tunisia,
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest albums in the Caribbean. Any person
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: from the Caribbean can tell you about that album. Just
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: fucking going there for right now. The cart album calls
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: to Tunisia. Yeah. In lover she nearly madam. I love
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: even now. But Sidem was there. That's why when you
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: asked me the question about loyalty was easy to answer.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that Shorty was disloyal. She was just human, right,
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: she was just human. Ten years, eleven years, he's not
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 1: coming out, but I'm going to be there for her
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: because she always represented I could call her any hours,
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: three am in the morning, shorty, wake up, take this
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: money here, and she would go, come on, man, Bro,
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: At what point we're going to be man, and be like, Bro,
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: you fucked up? Because she didn't send me to prison.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: That was me. She didn't send me to prison. Bro.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 1: She was calling me come home. We need to fuck her.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So she didn't send me.
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 1: She never called nobody or allies is meeting me? Fuck him? No,
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: I went on my own. So what am I gonna do?
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: Broh And and this is the thing too in Jamaica,
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of times, like a lot of men in prison,
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: the woman is she don on them. They just send
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: someone to kill her. Oh, and to kill the man. Yeah,
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: it's just it's a really in Jamaica. I'm not even
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: making that up because Jamaica rough. Why would I want
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: to hurt my my children's mother. She made me know
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: that my dick was working because she gave him my
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: first children. Yeah, and even a lot of times even
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: see them, it's like, I think you still love her.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, I love her, but I adore you different,
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 1: different I do you can have that's real. She made
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: me know that I was a man and I could
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: have get. So I love her and I understand what
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: she went through. Bro. Even people that loved me gave
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: up about in prison thirteen years. Bro, that's your family.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: You got kidds, but you got thirty three years. Yes,
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: she's like that's life. That's like thirty three years. That's
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: life to everyone else. And maybe you don't get out if.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: Something goes wrong in prison, you might not get that's
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: my problem.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 19: And she needs the doggy style thing. Human nature, human nature.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: That's human nature. So I can I could not be angry.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: I understand. I'm grown. I'm grown. I got a rested
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: when I was thirty five, so over the and I
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: learned to appreciate God more and be more spiritual. That's
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: all you see on my forehead. I have loved God. Wow.
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 1: If you look here, I don't know if you can
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 1: see it. You see devil Devil that was me back
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: in the day. That's what that's my that was my nickname.
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 1: Look you see did you feel that you really embodied that? Bro?
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: I was crazy. That's why I got so much trouble.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: I was fucking wilding out two three a million point zero.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: So you know, Jamaica is no joke. You don't. You
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: can't come on and say on the track you're a
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 1: gangster and you're not. You gotta be back in those days,
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I like that girl who
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: is you knows what's up. But that's what I'm saying. Like,
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: that's why I never stopped saying God is the greatest.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: God saved me. No one could save me. I was
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: in prison GP and Jamaica tower Ship. That's a number.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: In prison. You see guys hang themselves. You see guys
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: you know, steal like that steel thing. You see guys
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: sharp that steel and just push it to the niggas
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: you're dead. Damn that does That doesn't news. That's all
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: Jamaican prisons are. Because I know Americans say they have
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: the toughest prisons. Nigga, you don't, We have the toughest prisons.
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: People die every day. Well, God said bro, because I
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: take care of a lot of people. Because I learned
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: from Bounty Killer, so I pay forward and I prayed.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: I was like at one point I didn't even pray
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: for TJ. You couldn't tell me nothing about God. I
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: was God. That's how Big Guy was in Germany. I
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: was God. God los like nigga, you're not won't sit
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: down in this fucking dungeon. Wow. Then he gave me
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: that epiphany. Bro Chill, I gave you the blessing given them.
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: There's that I was helping a lot of people like Popcorn, comingly, gods,
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: a slim, etcetera, my parents, Russian, not nice, Jordan, fucking birch, everybody,
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: and God was like, Bro, you need to slow down.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: If I didn't, that's why I told him no regrets,
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: because if I didn't go to prison, I know I
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: would have been dead. You know what I mean. I
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: got a second chance. I got the second chance, and
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: I won't fuck I'm not How the fuck do I
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 1: fuck up? Turkey years in prison? Come out? Get my
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: US visa, got my European visa, get my British visa,
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: making these millions us motherfuckert bro and even then, and
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: why why I think I got a second chance, Because
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: even when I was crazy, I still had that love
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: and that respectful people. Because if you good, be good.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: If you're a gangster, we're not good because maybe you
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: want to hurt me and I'm not going to give
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: you that right, you know what I mean? Yes, So
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: that's why mindset since day one. So I have no
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: problem giving you your props because you can stop me,
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to stop you. Get it.
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: You can stop me, and I don't want to stop you.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: Because we can both be rich. We can both have
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of money for every yeah, yeah exactly, we
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: can both drive the rolls roys, and we can both
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: have a million women without even touching one of yours.
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: So that's my mindset since day one, bro, like every
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: man has, Like Bob Marley said, every man, I've all
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 1: right we decide there. Oh yes, I mean you have
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: your right to decide your destiny. Bro, I can't fuck
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: with yours and you can't fuck with mine. If if
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: it comes a time when that's gonna happen, you go
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: your ways and I go mine, and we're good. You
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 1: You rish over South Miami, a merchant North Miami. That's it.
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: That's how it goes, man. So I don't. I don't
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: harbor any bad feelings for no human none. I've been
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: through it, man, We've been through the wars, the gangster ship,
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: everything that's forty nine years old. Now, what the fuck
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 1: you're gonna What can you prove to me? You can't
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 1: prove nothing to me. I'm from Jamaica, broth Exactly, I'm
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 1: from Jamaica, and my mind from Jamaican too. Huh. In
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: my mind, I'm from Jamaican too. I'm from you, Tuck
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: get me aut man, I'm telling you, man, big up queens.
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 6: Getting back to the music a little bit. Yes, what
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 6: songs of yours do you think change the trajectory of
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 6: your career?
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: The first song was question New Millennium two thousand and two,
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: which changed Danceaul because the song was saying, decided a
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: new millennium, different things are going meaning this is the
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: new millennium, different things going on. That's what it says.
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 1: So that's one. Tech Body show Me on Me, which
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 1: is my first song on Billboard in New York. Okay,
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: Then tech Body Girl second song, Yeah wait wait wait
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: wait wait, let me and the Acon and the Shava
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: Rans and the Sis No no if you're this but
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 1: mag money exactly you know what's something? Then Rumping Shop,
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: then Clark like oh what more man? And then Fever
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen while I was in the While I was
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: in prison, that song was on rotation in ninety seven
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: on fucking par one o five. How did I mean
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: deal Yu in jail, Bro, I'm on the fucking app
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: watching everything. I popping Champagne in prison. I had a
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: fucking bust down roles. I had a fucking damn cham
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: for crazy, Bro. I had my roles in prison, Ship
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: and Pendan anything more. I loves the stream shambling anything. Yeah,
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 1: but it's still prison, right, Still prison, write no doubt
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: that can't leave when I want. Yeah, of course, still
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 1: PRIs Here's what it is. But those songs. When I
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 1: saw Golden Prison, I had my fucking plaque in my
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 1: cell like roaches crawling on it, and ship roaches was
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: crawling on my fucking bolt black Bro, that's crazy, I'm
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 1: telling you scene. Yeah, roaches was crawling on my block
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: and I was like your blood clot areo listen, listen,
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 1: you need to put your movies together. And that's what
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. What is the Netflix general, That's what I'm saying.
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 1: Grammy fucked up this year. No disrespect to them, but
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 1: the story. Come on, I'm coming from prison thirteen years,
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 1: get my feast. I'm engaged. I'm behaving myself. I saw
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 1: gold The album that I did was nominated What's Done
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: in Prison should Ha took.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 4: It's an amazing story.
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 1: Norm It's beautiful. I love it. And what that means said,
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 1: I want to piss. Yeah, we got one and we
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 1: got one over there. Yeah, like I'm in that trajectory.
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but just that you, that's you. You need
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 1: to like give ours the like Sean pa give me
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 1: the sem Jamaica for sure, right now, Sean Palm. Yeah yeah, yeah, man,
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 1: said Sean Paulish from up town. That means for the
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 1: privileged part privilege because in Jamaica we don't have racism classes.
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 1: But that's for another interview. Passionate about that because I'm
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 1: from the ghetto and I live uptown and my kids
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: are born and raised uptown, went to the best schools everything,
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 1: you know how that yes, yeah, so that's a serious
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 1: topic in Jamaica to classes, colorism, right, skin bleaching all day.
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say that because I remember
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: when you was rehearsing for your show, because I follow you.
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: So you was talking about we're going to do the
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 1: the car down and the bats cards, yes, where you
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: use the fucking burn up, the fucking melanim Yes, and
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: like you're trying to kill God? Do you I told
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 1: I regret nothing, okay, because if you win, you either
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 1: win or learn when you lose this when you die,
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: and we still don't know where you go when you die,
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 1: even though I'm.
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 5: And what those lessons are from, you know, from life,
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 5: from your negatives, you know what I mean.
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 1: So I never believe in losses, so I couldn't have regrets.
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 1: And I've lost people that I love, but I can't regret.
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 6: The reason why I asked that because cooda black and
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 6: he had he had a songs in super Grim and
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 6: he said, you know, I know the perk was fake,
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 6: but I still ate it. But because I was a
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 6: gremlin perkose in. Yeah, I know you know what I'm saying.
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 6: So see how deep that it was. And he regretted
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 6: that to a degree. The influence of that. No, but
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 6: I understand that. But think about this, I already drank
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 6: like four bottles of fucking How can I regret it?
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 6: I can't change it, right, you can't go back. You
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 6: can't go back. But the only thing I can do
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 6: from that is like, don't drink from beautiful women.
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 1: I'm giving her props. Come on, Yeah, okay, So if
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 1: I know. I mean, if I went outside, it was
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 1: like that, don't drink from beautiful l. That was the l.
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 1: It's not the loss lesson because once you're alive, it's
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 1: not a loss. It's a lesson. And if it's a lesson,
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 1: it's a blessing. If it's a lesson, Bro, I was
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 1: last year. Some times I was in fucking prison. What
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 1: the fuck are you talking about? I mean for America and.
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 4: I'm rich, that's right, sure, sure, exactly.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 1: Just shout to that ship, no, bro, like I said.
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 1: Even Massacre said it the other day when I was
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 1: in prison, and I was so much in my positive
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 1: energy that I've understood it. You know what Massacre said,
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 1: I'm bigger Massacre. Its aid interviewing too. He's a big
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 1: artist in Jamaica. He said, nobody can spoil my day.
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 1: Why would I give you that energy. I just came
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 1: out of prison, bro, thirteen years. I watched my children.
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 1: They come from voice to men and not the groups
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 1: from sucking the group big them up. Yeah you salute
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: in Boston from boss. Yeah, I'm losing Boston. Where's my
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 1: shot there for Philly? Yeah? I think hello to being wrong?
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 1: Then that's why your coffee is much empty. I know
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 1: we're taking shot. Yeah, we're taking shot. Oh he just
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 1: a shouting there. I know he's a shot that rose. Yeah,
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: but you can't. You can't. You can't. You know history.
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe have a bad day, you know your history. That's
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 1: why I'm so big in music. I'm a shooting. I'm
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 1: a student of the music. You're a student first, before them,
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: before this guy. Not a student, my little brother right,
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 1: always say you're I'm a student of hip hop. That's
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 1: what yester. Listen, Yeah enough, I respect you. Yeah, man,
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 1: you got it. Don't count you gotta when Yeah, big up,
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 1: big up. It's the Americans.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 4: Let's suit it again.
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, one of the T shirts. And because he wants
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 1: a student, cligg up. So I want to ask another question.
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: You brought up massacre. You know, so.
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 6: As far as dance all right now, who would you
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 6: think is like the top contenders and also like the
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 6: defending champions of dance all right now?
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 1: Well, massacre is one popcorn. And I'm not just saying
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: that because he's my protesting, but I'm also saying that
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 1: because he's my protest So I learned from the best guy.
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 1: You went to Harvard nigga, you fucking qualified. So gonsation
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 1: is the Harvard Dance all so popcorn from then, I
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 1: like like the younger kids after popcun like Shama and
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that in a minute. So
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 1: you have the Gamer, the Pablo wait g the Chronicler,
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 1: Skilly Bang, the jump Jeacque Laani, you know what I mean,
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 1: the four fifty and you know a lot of people
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: are gonna come at me, especially the guards are fans.
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 1: But he represents for the culture, the alkaline, right, yeah,
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 1: the squash, squash, squash, not time, you know what I mean.
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 1: So for me, the kids, I have to respect them
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 1: because when I was coming up, I got a lot
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 1: of flat like, oh it does song like dancer like
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 1: they're trying to say I'm not dancing. I'm sure I'm
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 1: something else, right, So we always have to represent for
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 1: the general because I stand on the on the shoulders
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 1: of giants, right, I stand on Bounty Killer's shoulder, Busha
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 1: banter being a man, regardless of what you want to
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 1: say about it. I'm a student, a fucking dance, A
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 1: dance all is forever, right. We have a rep for
• 2:51:15
  Speaker 1: the culture. I'm gonna rep for the vulture for the culture.
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 1: So big Up being a big up Bonty killer who
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: made me rich, Big Up Buscher Banton, biggest inspiration, Ninjaman
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 1: my first inspiration, super Cat Jeorg the Wheel, big Eyewod
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 1: Michigan are smiling. Danny English, he passed away the other day,
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, gives him the first Please,
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 1: he's the first person who told my mom that I'm
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 1: going to be rich. Then she gave me the key
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 1: because they used to lock me all that night. So
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 1: when I went to the stage show at night, I
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 1: could have go in because my mama he ain't bloodclads,
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 1: you know, and my dad is like your blood clod,
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 1: which means also. And then my mom when Danny English
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 1: said to my mom because he got they have a
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 1: meme with me and him on the internet with everything
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 1: I want to confirm, I say at teach me at
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 1: the party, he was the first person to tell my
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 1: mother that your son is going to be famous and
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 1: that that made that brought tears in mother's eyes. So
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 1: and he died the other day, so please give him around.
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 4: That's the peace.
• 2:52:43
  Speaker 1: As well, because they rolled together and big up eeg
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 1: now so bro Dan soul for me is everything, nor
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 1: that I believe in it. It made a lot of
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 1: us famous, the more and rich Mova cartail bonte be
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 1: in a bush like Terry James. Even all the guys
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: you asked me questions about why do you think I
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 1: had to take the drag spraga because I'm not going
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 1: to pick because all of them older than me influenced me,
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 1: and the ones that I gave fame, they inspired me.
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 1: So I could never teaz. Yeah, Scata, that's Scata and
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be I don't know if you guys understand.
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 1: In Jamaica, we did the Freedom Street Concert the thirty
• 2:53:33
  Speaker 1: one of December, so that went into the first of January,
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 1: which is the first day of the year. Him get
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 1: the first sok yamada for the year, and Jamaica, no
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: hold on Jamaica.
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 4: A sk ya moda is not saying your mother is
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 4: a war.
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 1: Go suck your mother and look how deep this is.
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: Sketch my, it's my big bra because Sketta was famous
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 1: when I was fucking hungry, you know how that was.
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 1: So he's my big bro. Popcorn is my son. Popcorn
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 1: gave him the first sock mother for the here so
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm conflicted, right, But I spoke to Scata.
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 1: He was very mature about it. Popcorn was very remorseful
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, and everything.
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 4: But but that's when he became a meme.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 6: Was what was in your mind because people haven't this
• 2:54:31
  Speaker 6: is the first time you're talking about it after that,
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 6: What was in your mind when he was holding the mic?
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 1: Well, you saw my face. I was shocked because I
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 1: never expected Popcorn to say that. It's like, you invite
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 1: me to a party.
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 4: Why would say you invite me to a party.
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 1: But before you invited me to the party, me and
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: bust Rhyme had beef.
• 2:54:54
  Speaker 4: Right, this is re just creating a scenario.
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 1: Why would I come to your party and say, bostam
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 1: sokya mada. This is the biggest this in Jamaica. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 1: that means I don't respect you. But this is here's
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 1: the flip side. You watch that movie with al Pacino
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 1: and Robert de Niro, Here's the flip side to that coin.
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 1: Popcorn felt violent because he was coming to represent for
• 2:55:27
  Speaker 1: the man that made him rich, really rich, because you know,
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 1: Puppy is in like ve spar tell my father level
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 1: Like really when we say millions, you mean us, and
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 1: then we had to be at the gate for two hours.
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 1: But then I had to explain to him after the show,
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 1: like Puppy, yeah, I understand. This is Jamaica, the excitement,
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 1: and everyone wants to prove. So if you're a security
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 1: guard and f N and and and components coming through,
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 1: maybe you have a puppy. I'm fucking okay, But what's
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 1: what's that was? I did that on progress and if
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't do it, hold on, hold on. This is
• 2:56:34
  Speaker 1: serious now. So I'm speaking to Puppy and he's like
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 1: General because you know they all call me General the
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 1: same way I call the guys before General. That's right, bro,
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 1: Respect is everything, you know Jamaicans. Of course she it
• 2:56:50
  Speaker 1: was like General Mefield, vex and Mayfield violated, mister popcorn,
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 1: you can't come to my show with two hundred people
• 2:56:58
  Speaker 1: like literally and then be angry when one of the
• 2:57:04
  Speaker 1: promoters go skata Joe Bangdanovic and Carla big up, Carla.
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 4: They organized it. I didn't do shit.
• 2:57:13
  Speaker 1: All they did was call me, Carl, tell you have
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 1: an interview with Billboards four thirty. Okay, I'll be there.
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 1: I'm there by four thirty just like when I came
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 1: to your show, I didn't disrespect I was on time, right,
• 2:57:24
  Speaker 1: hell yeah, because that's how we do. Thank you for
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 1: your patience, you know what I mean. Thank you for
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 1: your patience, sir, because you understand entertainment. Yes, so yeah,
• 2:57:44
  Speaker 1: So that's why you see me and Scata, me and
• 2:57:47
  Speaker 1: him all over the place together because he's one of
• 2:57:49
  Speaker 1: my road managers. Well, TJ is the manager Scatter and
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 1: Mooney Yeah man, TJ yeah man. So it's TJ, Skata
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 1: and Mooney here the manager, two world managers. Because I'm
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 1: though my life is dough and I do those. Yeah.
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 1: I love what you say.
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  Speaker 4: What's my eye?
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 1: No, my nose? I'm because in Jamaica, when with the
• 2:58:22
  Speaker 1: mode you said you love you some mode meaning you
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  Speaker 1: love to fucking talk or you love to like show out.
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 1: So but in America the slang is like I'm out.
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 1: So I merged them together. So what's this under my nose?
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 1: I'm out? It was in Jamaica number one on YouTube
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 1: for like three weeks. It's a slang that I turned
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 1: into a song. So it's crazy here. So you.
• 2:58:51
  Speaker 9: Know what more.
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 1: He knows, like I said, is out of the long
• 2:59:02
  Speaker 1: hand of the New York. It's not Brooklyn, but were
• 2:59:05
  Speaker 1: tough as fun right like why damn? Yeah, we was talking.
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 1: Come check we we got Gotti over here. They're gonna
• 2:59:12
  Speaker 1: stap it. Yeah exactly, we got Gotti. Yeah, so that's
• 2:59:17
  Speaker 1: what time shot form port more. Yeah, let's go, let's go.
• 2:59:20
  Speaker 1: Where's my shot?
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 4: Shot shot shots always live up.
• 2:59:25
  Speaker 1: Light skin girl in Jamaine. We call her brown and
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 1: brinin Where was she? Hold on there beat? Yeah, you
• 2:59:48
  Speaker 1: gotta do jay Z boom ba clop Biggie. Yeah, so
• 2:59:57
  Speaker 1: this is the jay Z Biggie and a little bee
• 3:00:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit your prodigy. Yes, hold on, give me
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 1: a moment to think. Mob d Spragua Bens talking about
• 3:00:23
  Speaker 1: you know my favorite New York rapper female? It's Cardi
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 1: card She has to come to your wedding. You know
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 1: who's I invited her? You know who's my second? And
• 3:00:40
  Speaker 1: this is going to be crazy if you're not if
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 1: you don't understand the generation I grew up there, you
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 1: know it's my favorite female rapper. I know who you're saying. Okay,
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 1: and yeah look which massive, Yes, I remember I'm not
• 3:00:58
  Speaker 1: a Biggi fan and as I am a two Pac
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 1: fun because I remember I said two bars all time rapper,
• 3:01:05
  Speaker 1: but Lco, Kim and Biggie back Jesus the not torri Us.
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 1: Just please us with little Fiss, We're just chilling. So
• 3:01:14
  Speaker 1: so in your wedding you would like Cardi b and
• 3:01:18
  Speaker 1: Little Kim to come out. No, if Little Kim comes,
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 1: that's the ice, bro, that's I okay. So Lies, look,
• 3:01:25
  Speaker 1: you got to recept I know you can do it.
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 1: What your wedding, you can't get ready to make it happen. Yeah,
• 3:01:34
  Speaker 1: your legendary. And they say again, Yo, listen, I'm gonna
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I never want to say it because
• 3:01:43
  Speaker 1: the girls in Jamaica that are fourteen, fifteen and sixteen
• 3:01:46
  Speaker 1: they love me. But you're gonna make me say it. Okay, Bro,
• 3:01:50
  Speaker 1: I'm forty nine years old. Yeah, your fucking legend. Okay
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 1: my eyes? Yes, God, so you can't you I know
• 3:01:58
  Speaker 1: you can cooking, but I'm sees yeah okay, So yeah,
• 3:02:13
  Speaker 1: you know I think you know you have turned into
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 1: an alcoholic A number. I'm no culting it. I'm joking.
• 3:02:27
  Speaker 1: This is the engagement ring. I'm joking, this is yeah,
• 3:02:32
  Speaker 1: this is a sim I'm George, you don't know fucking
• 3:02:39
  Speaker 1: you know, moving on. Yeah, the fucking weasy and not
• 3:02:47
  Speaker 1: the way the other. Yeah, we can also a little wing.
• 3:02:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you how I know your official gangster.
• 3:02:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how to laugh. You gotta smile, you
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 1: know how to have fun. Of course when I see
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 1: people who don't want to smile quite But you hain't
• 3:03:13
  Speaker 1: been to nothing nothing. Listen, tell me one thing that
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 1: you learn being locked up? Being locked up? How to
• 3:03:23
  Speaker 1: set your hands in your jerkey off? I'm sure I
• 3:03:30
  Speaker 1: sho okay on how d man or am I leg ship?
• 3:03:45
  Speaker 1: Allegations again? Allegations ship? Yeah, but ask the question again,
• 3:03:55
  Speaker 1: you know asking I'm going to see his answer. What
• 3:04:01
  Speaker 1: have you learned? Yeah, since you've been home from jail,
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 1: been home from jail. Yeah yeah, don't take time for granted,
• 3:04:15
  Speaker 1: and don't take it the people you love, don't take
• 3:04:18
  Speaker 1: them for granted. You can't. And I'll tell you some
• 3:04:22
  Speaker 1: fn because Jamaica prison is strange. It's like the gangster
• 3:04:29
  Speaker 1: seen in Jamaica. Five people will die here in Kingston,
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 1: but when you watch the news, you only hear about
• 3:04:39
  Speaker 1: the one person that died in Montego Bay or in Osheria.
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 1: So you got to take life seriously. The people you
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 1: love got to spend it with them. You know what
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 1: my biggest shraget is and my first son. I had
• 3:04:57
  Speaker 1: him to the studio. You know when you get that song.
• 3:05:01
  Speaker 1: Your first child is a son. So I'm with him
• 3:05:03
  Speaker 1: in the studio. I'm changing is changing his diapers. I'm
• 3:05:07
  Speaker 1: doing all of that. But what I regret the most
• 3:05:11
  Speaker 1: is not spending more time with him. Who's oldest little vibes? No, yeah,
• 3:05:16
  Speaker 1: lia vibes, all right, But this is the good thing
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 1: about it. The liquor vibes gave me two grandchildren. So
• 3:05:23
  Speaker 1: now I have the opportunity giving me another chance. Yes,
• 3:05:27
  Speaker 1: second chances. Man, God is the greatest. Bro.
• 3:05:32
  Speaker 4: I believe in God.
• 3:05:35
  Speaker 1: Bro when I was even if you watch a lot
• 3:05:37
  Speaker 1: of my old interoys, that's the Wilford I know because
• 3:05:40
  Speaker 1: you watch America. I'm like, yeah, so he knows what
• 3:05:50
  Speaker 1: soup is. I used to say, bro whatever x x X.
• 3:05:55
  Speaker 1: Now I believe in Like my son, I didn't get
• 3:06:00
  Speaker 1: to raise him. He gave me two grandchildren. Yes, so no,
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 1: I can raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm
• 3:06:10
  Speaker 1: like that's yeah, yeah, I'm not to my grandson. Make
• 3:06:14
  Speaker 1: sure you get a lot of pussy. I'm gonna have
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 1: to my granddaughter if you ever two point zero. But seriously, though,
• 3:06:26
  Speaker 1: it's like he gave me a new lease on life
• 3:06:30
  Speaker 1: to be able to because and this is I'm going
• 3:06:35
  Speaker 1: to tell you, I'm going to be honest. Before I
• 3:06:41
  Speaker 1: got arrested, I never believe in God as a concept.
• 3:06:46
  Speaker 1: So being in prison, and like I said, I put
• 3:06:52
  Speaker 1: the two thirty head on my Where is it two
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 1: thirty eight? Where is the tattoo? I don't even know?
• 3:06:58
  Speaker 1: Look where is it? Yeah, let's start right, gee right there, right,
• 3:07:05
  Speaker 1: don't study Norman che hold on these nuts.
• 3:07:21
  Speaker 18: Right.
• 3:07:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 3:07:27
  Speaker 1: When I said this, no, no disrespect. When I'm gonna
• 3:07:34
  Speaker 1: say this, I knew that I was going to come out.
• 3:07:38
  Speaker 1: But at the time I needed that extra energy because
• 3:07:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were depending on me, not just
• 3:07:48
  Speaker 1: the guys that I was arrested with, but my mother
• 3:07:51
  Speaker 1: and my father, my children, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember,
• 3:07:56
  Speaker 1: this is Jamaica. This is not fucking Wall Street ship.
• 3:08:00
  Speaker 1: This is Jamaica. So I had to put my faith
• 3:08:05
  Speaker 1: in something other than us. And that's when I got
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 1: more spiritual, more religious, and started focusing. And that's when
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 1: I tattooed the thing on my face love God. I
• 3:08:21
  Speaker 1: don't know if you can see it. What's your man?
• 3:08:45
  Speaker 1: That's when I became more spiritual because I used to
• 3:08:48
  Speaker 1: order church like most Jamaicans, because Jamaicans have the most
• 3:08:52
  Speaker 1: churches per square capital. Really, you know what, you know
• 3:08:57
  Speaker 1: what beats it the most bars. And I'm not even joking,
• 3:09:01
  Speaker 1: like literally bars beats no, not beats bar like where
• 3:09:06
  Speaker 1: you go to have drink, drink, rum, shamp whatever. The
• 3:09:10
  Speaker 1: most bars, yes, but but just by a slight because
• 3:09:15
  Speaker 1: think about this, we have the most churches per capita
• 3:09:18
  Speaker 1: in the world.
• 3:09:19
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 1: The only thing that beats that, Wow, it's bars. That's
• 3:09:25
  Speaker 1: why you see the the the places of nature of Jamaica. Yeah, discurpacs.
• 3:09:33
  Speaker 1: So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying, you're in
• 3:09:35
  Speaker 1: a tourist country and you're enjoying yourself and nobody fucking knew.
• 3:09:39
  Speaker 1: And on the other side, fifty three people die in
• 3:09:44
  Speaker 1: two days murder, so crazy. It is three people die
• 3:09:52
  Speaker 1: between Monday and between Friday and Sunday. But when you
• 3:09:57
  Speaker 1: are in Montego Bay, not and not that the real
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 1: month ago, you're in the resort, the resort, right, the safety.
• 3:10:06
  Speaker 1: You're good, right, But when you go back to America
• 3:10:09
  Speaker 1: and you go on Google, you see that fifty three
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 1: people died between Friday and Sunday by murder. It's crazy, man.
• 3:10:18
  Speaker 6: So tell me something. Since you've been out, what have
• 3:10:21
  Speaker 6: you seen change the climate of Jamaica?
• 3:10:25
  Speaker 1: Nothing? Just the love for me. But my thing is this,
• 3:10:32
  Speaker 1: why are you shooting people because you have no other option.
• 3:10:38
  Speaker 1: You were in school and you were you could paint
• 3:10:40
  Speaker 1: very well, you could draw jay Z and it looked
• 3:10:44
  Speaker 1: like jay Z. But because no one cared about that,
• 3:10:48
  Speaker 1: and you lived in fucking flat boards, no opportunities, no opportunities,
• 3:10:52
  Speaker 1: so you just started to shoot. Yeah, gun man, no
• 3:10:57
  Speaker 1: your batman. And it feels good. You know, life feels
• 3:11:00
  Speaker 1: good because they're a man and man need purpose, get respect,
• 3:11:04
  Speaker 1: man need respect, and we need purpose. So you found
• 3:11:08
  Speaker 1: your purpose because you do it very well. Run upon
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 1: niggas and shooting them, is it right?
• 3:11:17
  Speaker 7: No?
• 3:11:19
  Speaker 1: But all you had left was purpose. Found it with
• 3:11:23
  Speaker 1: your gun the same way we found it after the gun,
• 3:11:28
  Speaker 1: with the microphone, music with the microphone. Jordan's founded with
• 3:11:31
  Speaker 1: the basketball. But you don't punk. You want a picture
• 3:11:34
  Speaker 1: with Jordan's nigga. Fuck, nigga, pay me. That's why I
• 3:11:38
  Speaker 1: have no problem with Jordan's because I understand his mindset.
• 3:11:43
  Speaker 1: Is it wrong or right, that's for people to decide.
• 3:11:47
  Speaker 1: But I understand the mindset of the man because well,
• 3:11:51
  Speaker 1: I grew up in the ghetto. I understand how it works.
• 3:11:55
  Speaker 1: And if you don't understand that, man, you naive as fuck.
• 3:11:58
  Speaker 1: You need to live in color you know what I mean.
• 3:12:02
  Speaker 1: Let's go skiing in the fucking window or some trick
• 3:12:07
  Speaker 1: and ship, you know what I mean. I love Colorado, Weed, Colorado,
• 3:12:11
  Speaker 1: let us know, Yeah, and Oregon. Yeah, I love we
• 3:12:15
  Speaker 1: got it in Yeah, that's yeah. When you smoke that
• 3:12:19
  Speaker 1: smoke Champs Weed, I haven't. I'm taking it home. I
• 3:12:22
  Speaker 1: love that ship. I'm taking it home. Listen, when you
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 1: smoke it, you have to make a blog about it
• 3:12:28
  Speaker 1: and say, yo, I will. I'm as well, Jackson, where
• 3:12:31
  Speaker 1: was it? This is my little monkey? What's the monkey's name? Pablo?
• 3:12:38
  Speaker 1: This is my bubbles hoping I smoke it. I see doubles.
• 3:12:47
  Speaker 2: Let me just say something in it, be in it
• 3:12:49
  Speaker 2: with this yeah vibes, man, I'm being honest with you.
• 3:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Me being a New Yorker it's just a little
• 3:12:56
  Speaker 1: Jamaica for us.
• 3:12:57
  Speaker 2: It's little Jamaica, New York directly. Yes, related. Yes, I
• 3:13:03
  Speaker 2: always wanted to meet you. I always wanted to, you know,
• 3:13:06
  Speaker 2: come into the same you know room with you, just
• 3:13:10
  Speaker 2: vie with you. And then I realized one of my friends,
• 3:13:14
  Speaker 2: one of my best friends in the world, name is
• 3:13:16
  Speaker 2: Busta rhymes damn.
• 3:13:19
  Speaker 1: And he stepped to me and he.
• 3:13:22
  Speaker 2: Told me who you actually are, because I was not
• 3:13:26
  Speaker 2: just the persona.
• 3:13:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 3:13:29
  Speaker 2: So and when I tell you that man woke up
• 3:13:33
  Speaker 2: four o'clock in the morning, you want to.
• 3:13:35
  Speaker 1: Get a shot?
• 3:13:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, hold on, hold on, because I said, okay, all right,
• 3:13:42
  Speaker 2: I do that too.
• 3:13:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fucus definitely out, all right,
• 3:13:47
  Speaker 1: pour it in this let's go pour this ship in
• 3:13:50
  Speaker 1: this ship. But my brother bust around not a lot.
• 3:13:55
  Speaker 1: She what's her name, Jamie Jamie? Yeah, don't play me,
• 3:14:11
  Speaker 1: but bob. Yeah.
• 3:14:12
  Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, man, when we started this
• 3:14:16
  Speaker 2: and we wanted, we wanted to pay respect to the
• 3:14:19
  Speaker 2: dance hall, respected the reggae wonder and our fans went
• 3:14:25
  Speaker 2: so crazy. Let's say your show won't be your show
• 3:14:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be official. Yes, like a referee with a whistle.
• 3:14:33
  Speaker 20: Yeah right, unless it's so important, unless you have like
• 3:14:41
  Speaker 20: a Russian missile, but unless you have.
• 3:14:43
  Speaker 2: Bout the kingdom. Yes, and me personally, I think you
• 3:14:49
  Speaker 2: and being the are both kings.
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 1: Bro, my respect, I love being the mine he was
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 1: before me. How the fuck you not in respect a
• 3:14:56
  Speaker 1: nigga who made made this before you from the ghetto.
• 3:15:00
  Speaker 1: Open the doors, you bitch and winna do bitch business.
• 3:15:03
  Speaker 1: I think you're real bunty killer, big up, your big
• 3:15:09
  Speaker 1: up ninja man. After that. Me know, me and my
• 3:15:14
  Speaker 1: father in the same league, you understand, So yeah, big Godi.
• 3:15:19
  Speaker 1: God listen, any y'all know I'm touring it me my father, bunty,
• 3:15:28
  Speaker 1: won't you.
• 3:15:28
  Speaker 21: That's right, that's the sort. That's that's the only tour.
• 3:15:39
  Speaker 21: No the empty everybody, all right right?
• 3:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the fever, give me the fever. You
• 3:15:49
  Speaker 1: want the bottle? Yea, give me the fever.
• 3:15:52
  Speaker 4: Let's get the fever.
• 3:15:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, you know why I'm blessed? Yes, because my
• 3:16:05
  Speaker 1: managers don't drink. Yeah. No, no, no, no, you know
• 3:16:15
  Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I said, hold on. I saved
• 3:16:19
  Speaker 1: the day because it's not under your eye, on your nose.
• 3:16:24
  Speaker 1: Get it. I'm out a mouth. I keep sucking it up.
• 3:16:31
  Speaker 1: I'm smoked down. No, you can't fuck it up. You
• 3:16:33
  Speaker 1: can't suck up your drink Champs. Hold on, hold on on, yeah, no, no, no, okay, gee,
• 3:16:47
  Speaker 1: then do you know do you recognize your hip hop legend?
• 3:16:53
  Speaker 1: Not a fucking podcast legend? Essen is a podcast legend. Yes,
• 3:17:02
  Speaker 1: you're hip hop lashion and the podcastle when I said
• 3:17:06
  Speaker 1: F is a podcast lesson that comes love him, yes,
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 1: and love you, but they also love you because you
• 3:17:14
  Speaker 1: was a rapper. I'm gonna get you on my rap
• 3:17:16
  Speaker 1: album right now.
• 3:17:19
  Speaker 4: Bro, bro bro, Yeah, because you was before everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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