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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Will Jim Knowles Scheme Up The Buckeye Defense Vs. Michigan? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Thursday, November twenty eighth,
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  Speaker 1: them your host Tom Moore. The game against Michigan is
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  Speaker 1: in two days. There's a lot to be thankful for today.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I'm most thankful for is that
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, there was a lot to be thankful
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  Speaker 1: for for Ohio State fans last weekend when the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: took care of Indiana and a top five matchup. That
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  Speaker 1: defense has been looking pretty good the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to be talking about what the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: did against Indiana and how much it will or won't
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  Speaker 1: apply to this weekend's game against Michigan. Going to bring
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  Speaker 1: Ross back in Ross I guess let's start with what
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  Speaker 1: Ohouse date was trying to take away from Indiana this
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  Speaker 1: first play. We're going to be talking about an RPO,
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  Speaker 1: but they are really focused on the P. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like this weekend, if there are if Michigan's running RPOs,
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  Speaker 1: you can be more focused on the r there. So
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  Speaker 1: what was it. What was Ohio State trying to take
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  Speaker 1: away from Indiana last weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean this, there's limited applicability, I would say
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  Speaker 3: from Indiana to Michigan. Michigan is not a heavy RPO team.
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  Speaker 3: I mean this, This is a game that has a
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  Speaker 3: much more application to Oregon if they are fortunate enough
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  Speaker 3: to beat Michigan and make it to the Big Ten
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  Speaker 3: Championship game. This was to me the best game plan
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  Speaker 3: that I've seen from Gym Knowles in his time at
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State. You know, they had clearly a theory of
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  Speaker 3: the case and then they worked through just a lot
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  Speaker 3: of variety to get there.
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  Speaker 2: You saw lots of Cover one, but like not just
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  Speaker 2: even cover one.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like we talked about in the past, the
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  Speaker 3: problems of their limits and doing it. You saw variations
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  Speaker 3: this week and how they played Cover one and they
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  Speaker 3: would trade off crossers, cover two to cover three different
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  Speaker 3: types of Cover four that we'll get into, you know,
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  Speaker 3: trips responses to Cover four coach, along with all of
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  Speaker 3: the blitzeing and stunting they were doing up front. But
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  Speaker 3: like as you hinted that the the what they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to do, we came into the game saying that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what makes Indiana's offense go is their run pass options
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  Speaker 3: and how they use that to stay ahead of schedule
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  Speaker 3: and how good Curtis Rourke is at hitting those pass
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  Speaker 3: plays off of it. And what Ohio State wanted to
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  Speaker 3: do was take away, as you said, the p of that, right,
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  Speaker 3: So they wanted to take away the pass and those
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  Speaker 3: easy access throws on early downs and force Indiana to
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  Speaker 3: run the football and get them into passing situations. And
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  Speaker 3: so they had a couple of concepts to do that,
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to run through them. The first one
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  Speaker 3: that saw a lot of that you know I have
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  Speaker 3: seen in limited instances from Gym Knowles at Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: but not nearly to this extent and not in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of the field, is they're playing a Cover four
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  Speaker 3: bracket here, and so what that means, like tuber four obviously,
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  Speaker 3: like you have four deep defenders, right, but like we've
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  Speaker 3: talked in the past about how it gives you a
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  Speaker 3: lot of versatility and really what they're doing with it though,
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  Speaker 3: is there like you can see the three the two
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  Speaker 3: corners and the nickel are all manned up on there
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  Speaker 3: on the wide receivers, and then the safeties are bracketing.
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  Speaker 3: You can tell, like at the beginning of the snap,
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  Speaker 3: how they both sort of turn their shoulders to the
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  Speaker 3: wide receivers and so to the to the short side
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  Speaker 3: of the field, you have Latham rants in the boundary
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  Speaker 3: safety plant bracketing in that single wide receiver or you
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  Speaker 3: know it's sometimes called a cone to the single wide
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  Speaker 3: receiver side. They did that a lot, particularly if Sarah
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  Speaker 3: was the singled up wide receiver. And then to the field,
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Down's playing a bracket on the insider number two receiver.
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  Speaker 3: And you know basically what this does is it just
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  Speaker 3: it takes away any options, right, Like Indiana's trying to
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  Speaker 3: throw up a kind of like a all curl pattern here.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these guys are doubled.
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  Speaker 3: They only singled up wide receivers way to the wide
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  Speaker 3: side of the field. Obviously, that's a low percentage throw,
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  Speaker 3: like we talked about in college football with the hash marks,
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  Speaker 3: and basically a couple of times, all this left Curtis
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  Speaker 3: Rourke with was trying to throw to the running back
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  Speaker 3: against sunny styles and coverage and Styles did a great
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  Speaker 3: job on that running back, and so you know, they
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  Speaker 3: were just he is basically left with these sort of
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  Speaker 3: low percentage throws trying to thread it over Styles, his
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  Speaker 3: head incomplete. But you just saw this concept a lot,
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  Speaker 3: and again it took a page somewhat. We talked the
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  Speaker 3: previous week about how Michigan in the second half against
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  Speaker 3: Indiana mixed up these Cover one and you know Cover
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  Speaker 3: four matching you know, by matching and just mean covering
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  Speaker 3: receivers within this split safety structure principles.
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  Speaker 2: And it was really that on steroids.
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  Speaker 3: And so you just saw a lot of this that
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  Speaker 3: again just took away those RPO throws, made Rourke uncomfortable
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  Speaker 3: and you know, forced Indiana to play left handed.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So next one is an RPO play where
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  Speaker 1: they defended this one really well. The last one Indiana
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  Speaker 1: had some success on the ground, this one not so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, so as I just hinted that you know,
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  Speaker 3: I would say the two concepts that are high State
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  Speaker 3: relied on more than anything else, or that Cover four
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  Speaker 3: bracketing and then Cover one, but like a specific type
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  Speaker 3: of Cover one. You know, you could maybe call it
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  Speaker 3: Cover one alley. Basically, it's Cover one with Caleb Downs
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  Speaker 3: as the extra defender in the box, playing to the
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  Speaker 3: white side of the field outside the tight end. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting we talked about like this really shows kind
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  Speaker 3: of like getting into the minutia of it, like how
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  Speaker 3: things have changed since Oregon. I think, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of clips against Orgon where like Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Hancock and Nicol got stuck in the fit and then
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  Speaker 3: he also had like man covered responsibilities and we talked
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  Speaker 3: about the.
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  Speaker 2: Problems with that.
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  Speaker 3: So now they're really rotating the safeties instead, so that
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  Speaker 3: like in this situation, you can see the guy the
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  Speaker 3: Indiana receiver going motion from the wide side to the
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  Speaker 3: field short and how Jordan Hancock then goes back as
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  Speaker 3: the deep safety and it said it's Caleb Downs down
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  Speaker 3: in the box. Obviously Downs a bigger I mean, Hancock
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  Speaker 3: does a nice job as a run defender, but obviously,
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  Speaker 3: like Caleb Downs is pretty special at itu.
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  Speaker 2: And so then you know you've got eight defenders.
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  Speaker 3: Again we've talked about like cover one at least in
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  Speaker 3: theory is great against our pos because you've got every
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  Speaker 3: everyone accounted for.
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  Speaker 2: No one else is in conflict.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Downs has the tight end here they were
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  Speaker 3: on sort of a slant shoot or you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: called a dragon or uh, you know, you had a
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  Speaker 3: slant round and then to the flat you know Roark
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  Speaker 3: here like this again, as I said before the game,
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  Speaker 3: like he likes to pull these sometimes, whether he really
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  Speaker 3: should or not. Like this is not like really a
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  Speaker 3: pole read here. I guess he thinks he has single
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  Speaker 3: coverage and he's gonna take his chance against Abian Noosen.
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  Speaker 2: This is not one where Ignosen gets a PI.
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  Speaker 3: It's a nice play and so you know it really
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  Speaker 3: wasn't there and there was stopped. And again, like as
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  Speaker 3: I said, the goal was first of all taking away
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  Speaker 3: the RPO and cancel everything out.
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  Speaker 2: Then you have Downs. It's the extra defender in the box,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: And then this next one, this is another example. It's
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  Speaker 1: another three high look, but it's another example of the
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  Speaker 1: just the different varieties of coverages they're throwing. And this
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  Speaker 1: is one where Klea Downs was also in the box.
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  Speaker 1: Really good example of his impact in the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, exactly. And so you know, we've been talking
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  Speaker 3: this since the Organ game about how, you know, increasing
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  Speaker 3: the amount of disguise. Right, we're not just like lining
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  Speaker 3: up in single high and everyone knows it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be Cover one and that's that. So here, like pre snap,
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  Speaker 3: it looks like it's cover one right with Downs is
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  Speaker 3: the deep safety and they're going to play another cover
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  Speaker 3: one rep. But instead of like at the snap, the
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  Speaker 3: two other the nickel and the safety fall back and
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  Speaker 3: Downs becomes that tample pole runner like we've talked about
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  Speaker 3: the three high nolars concept where the middle safety is
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  Speaker 3: essentially acts as like a mic linebacker from depth right
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  Speaker 3: and you see here Phil the sea gap like Cody
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  Speaker 3: Simon bumps outside, he plays the edge Downs Phills on
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  Speaker 3: the running back. You can see it from behind the
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  Speaker 3: offense as well, like how he you know, and obviously
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  Speaker 3: like taking this is again and then taking advantage of players,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, and I think Days sort of alluded
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  Speaker 3: to this that, you know, following Organ, it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of like how do we activate Caleb Downs more like
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  Speaker 3: let's figure out a way to not to take advantage
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  Speaker 3: of what he does so well. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's just really effective, whether it's in like that
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  Speaker 3: cover one alley I was showing, or like here, you know,
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  Speaker 3: filling this the basically the sea gap outside of the
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  Speaker 3: offensive tackle coming downhill, and it's just you know, putting
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  Speaker 3: your your best players in positions to make plays. But
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  Speaker 3: again it's just you know, keeping the defense off balance
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  Speaker 3: or offensive balance, showing one look doing another, mixing concepts
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  Speaker 3: as we talked about, like you know, they use this
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  Speaker 3: three high Tampa in different ways. There were times where
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  Speaker 3: they like show the three high and play cover one
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  Speaker 3: from it, and so it's just again disguise making things
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  Speaker 3: more difficult on the offense. I know it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: may not seem night and day, but it's such a
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  Speaker 3: shift from pre organ to to now.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Next up, this is I like to try
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  Speaker 1: and tell you which play we're doing it for the
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  Speaker 1: people who are just listening on the podcast, And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times it's like, well, Indian ran the ball
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  Speaker 1: for six yards, You're not going to know which one
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So this one, this is an easy one.
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  Speaker 1: This is the one where Cody Simon comes off the
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  Speaker 1: edge and forces the fumble HiT's blindside Curtis Rourke and
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  Speaker 1: knocks the ball up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this this was obviously a big play, but this
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  Speaker 3: was like just sort of an epitome of like where
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  Speaker 3: the defenses come right Coach Faskuld follow on Ax and
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  Speaker 3: Blue Scott he you know, he is, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Jim Knowles is running the heck out of these wide dogs,
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  Speaker 3: which is like sort of a Gary Patterson TCU concept
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  Speaker 3: during this game, and like all that means is like
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  Speaker 3: he brings he brings field pressure from both the mike
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  Speaker 3: linebacker and the nickel here, like you can see, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Cody Simon comes out out side, Jordan Hancock attacks the
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  Speaker 3: sea gap between the offensive tackle guard.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Disguise again, right, Like we talked about the need to
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  Speaker 3: increase like the use of sim pressures and creepers, so
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  Speaker 3: you know, showing they're basically showing here in some ways,
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  Speaker 3: like Caleb downs is jumping around showing pressure from one side.
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  Speaker 3: Then they basically bring you know, they have three guys
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  Speaker 3: coming from one side. The nose sort of becomes the
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  Speaker 3: contained player to the boundary Jack Sawyer chops out and
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  Speaker 3: so at the end of the day, you're just like
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  Speaker 3: running a cover three with you You've got your three
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  Speaker 3: deep defenders, you're four under, so it's a pretty safe coverage.
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  Speaker 2: But you're overloading, you know, you.
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  Speaker 3: But the offense only has two blockers to the white
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  Speaker 3: side of the field for three rushers, which lets Cody
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  Speaker 3: Simon become free. And then obviously, like Simon has really
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  Speaker 3: proved himself to be a really effective blitzer, Like we
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  Speaker 3: saw that again and again on Saturday, and they use
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  Speaker 3: that a lot. We'll get to another example here, both
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  Speaker 3: against the run and the pass.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, again, the final thing I.
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  Speaker 3: Know is like we've talked about since Oregon is like
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  Speaker 3: carrying routes right again, a little thing that like doesn't
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  Speaker 3: really show up, but it takes away the options for
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback. Here you have Caleb Downs like that you
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  Speaker 3: see the crosser the deep over from the third inside
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  Speaker 3: receiver to the trip side like coming across the field.
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  Speaker 2: Downs picks that up and carries it.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, whereas earlier in the season that might
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  Speaker 3: have been open and the quarterback might have got the
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  Speaker 3: ball off before the rush could get there. Like now
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  Speaker 3: they're taking away those easy read throws and just making
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback hold the football.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Next up, we got two more coming. This
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  Speaker 1: next one is I believe the long run of the
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  Speaker 1: day for Indiana, and this is a stretch play. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: the last two players we're doing today are both stretch plays.
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  Speaker 1: Is that something that Michigan has as a feature in
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  Speaker 1: its run schemes? That's Is this one of these things
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  Speaker 1: that we might be able to see more directly applicable
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  Speaker 1: this weekend?
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  Speaker 3: No, for multiple reasons. Number one, like for those who
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  Speaker 3: read and Go Blog, which obviously great Michigan site by
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  Speaker 3: Brian Cook, Michigan has never been a good stretch team,
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  Speaker 3: and when they try to run it, they don't do
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  Speaker 3: it well. It's an extense like it's an expensive install
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  Speaker 3: in the sense like you have to wrap it a lot.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about that with Ohio State when they were
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  Speaker 3: super stretch heavy under Kevin Wilson. But you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: they try to copy it to some extent, but they've
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  Speaker 3: just never that's just never been there, bread and butter.
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  Speaker 3: But the bigger issue here is, like you know, for
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  Speaker 3: any disquiet about the run game, obviously, like Indiana is
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  Speaker 3: a good offense, right, You're not going to take away everything,
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  Speaker 3: and as we discuss, like the goal was to take
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  Speaker 3: away the passing game, and so that did leave some opportunities,
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  Speaker 3: particularly like this is like in the second half of State,
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  Speaker 3: it's on multiple scores, right, Like what the one thing
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  Speaker 3: that gets Indiana back in the game is like a
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  Speaker 3: long pass play. And so Ohio State here again is
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  Speaker 3: running that cover four bracket concept, right. So like Indiana
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  Speaker 3: is in this like trips tray where the tight end
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  Speaker 3: to the field and you know you've got the nickel
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  Speaker 3: on the second receiver, the corner on the outside receiver,
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  Speaker 3: they're all manned up, right. Then Downs is helping bracket
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  Speaker 3: Branson's is bracketing the single receiver to the up to
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  Speaker 3: the boundary and it basically just leaves you down a body, right,
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  Speaker 3: like because Idiana has this wing with the tight end
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  Speaker 3: and you can just see like there's no edge defender
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  Speaker 3: outside of the tight end, and you know, especially like
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  Speaker 3: it's one thing you know to do that with Jack
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  Speaker 3: Soy or JT. Tumloa like for all the probably I
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  Speaker 3: think unfair grief the two of them have received throughout
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  Speaker 3: their Ohio State careers, Like You've noticed the difference immediately
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  Speaker 3: against the run when they're not in the game, like
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  Speaker 3: they're they're great run defenders. In addition to you know,
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  Speaker 3: their sack numbers by the end of the year are
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  Speaker 3: going to look pretty good. Actually, but they are they
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  Speaker 3: because they're just really they they give you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: beyond sort of the x's and o's, like the ability
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  Speaker 3: to control the edge. But so they're not in the
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  Speaker 3: game here, and then it's just but that's that would
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  Speaker 3: be a tough place for any defensive end because you're
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  Speaker 3: you're getting double and there's no one outside of you
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  Speaker 3: to help. And then obviously, like Indiana uses this crack technique,
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  Speaker 3: so you know they have good coaches too. They saw
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  Speaker 3: High State running a lot of this bracket. They know
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to get They're getting man coverage on
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  Speaker 3: their wide receivers and so the slot receiver kind of
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  Speaker 3: gets a two for one here because Jordan Hancock's following
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  Speaker 3: him in manned and downs is helping with that. And
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  Speaker 3: then you know, Hancock realizes that he does fall off,
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  Speaker 3: but it's just like a hair too late. So again,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't think Ohio State against Michigan is probably
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  Speaker 3: not going to play this cover for bracket concept, right,
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  Speaker 3: like this is this is designed to take away what
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  Speaker 3: Indiana does well, and Ohio State was willing to live
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  Speaker 3: with like Indiana trying to you know, move the ball.
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  Speaker 3: This is like probably the one explosive run, right, Like, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they had some other runs off of stretch from this,
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  Speaker 3: look at you know, six yards eight yards, but like
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  Speaker 3: obviously when you look up at the total yards and
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  Speaker 3: the scoreboard, like Indiana was not able to consistently move
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  Speaker 3: the foot ball running it like that, and so you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously it was taking away what they do well, which
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  Speaker 3: is which is the goal of any defense.
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  Speaker 1: All right, next up, one more stretch play we got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, and this was one where Sunny Styles
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  Speaker 1: picked up a TfL. Really nice, nice aggressive play from
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  Speaker 1: him as well. It feels like he and Cody Simon
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  Speaker 1: both you mentioned Simon earlier how effective he's been. Sonny
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  Speaker 1: Styles feels like he's come a long way just in
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  Speaker 1: the last month or two as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say Styles went from you know,
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  Speaker 3: I remember like post Michigan State game, feeling like he
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  Speaker 3: was sort of the liability of the defense and kind
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  Speaker 3: of the mark that the opposing offenses were attacking to
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  Speaker 3: like he is. He's really effective now, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: his versatility, guys we talked about with you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: he's not like your traditional you know, Chris Fielman type,
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  Speaker 3: you know, feeling plugging holes. But like obviously his athleticism
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  Speaker 3: allows them to do things like play that brat trust
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: him and man coverage on a back and he's able
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: to handle that for them. But like again, so just
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: like this sort of I'm trying to prove my point,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: you know, to believe me, just see the tape that
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: the stretch issues were not It was not like something
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: that Indiana was just like overwhelming Ohio State's rush defense.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: So this is the same drive right after that long run,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: and you know, so different concept better against stretch. Right, Like, look,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: this is the same trips look from Indiana with the
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: tight end, but now Ohio State runs that cover one alley.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Caleb Downs now becomes the edge defender, so now you
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: do have an alley player. He sort of he takes
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: the outside shoulder and the tight end forces the football
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: back inside right to styles. The last thing, like the
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: other thing I want to note is like I've talked
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: a lot about the coverages they used. Another thing that
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Knowles is doing a lot more of that we saw
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: quite a bit in twenty twenty two and less sense
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: in is these like inside linebacker run blitzes and run
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: defence concepts.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Right, So.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: You know Mike Pettick has for the site, has talked
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: about these a lot, but like here you basically use
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: you the noseguard is going to go from the place
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: the field a gap to the opposite a gap, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: then Cody Simon is going to blitz into the playside
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: a gap, right, and so like he's you know, you're
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: sort of you're what you're doing is you're taking away
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: double teams from the offense, particularly on these zone runs, right,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: because it's it's like in theory, now you've created like
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: a bear front without having lined up that way because
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: now you have three in you know, you have the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: two defensive tackles and Simon right like on the inside
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: offensive line and and some that just frees Simon then
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: he can he can loop around.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: So it's sort of like an X DOC concept like
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you know, first.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Linebacker goes and then the other one loops around, but
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: it also frees him up right, and so like we're
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: talking about him playing well, but they're using a lot
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of these concepts too that you know, use Simon as
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the principal blitzer or they'll do like a red blitz
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: and then that free styles up to loop around as
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the will linebacker. And so again you're just like a
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: lot more movement up front as well as in the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: back end. You know, like the Jack Sawyer sack. We've
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: seen that concept a few times where they blitz the
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: outside and let Sawyer loop around into the a gap
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: after the garden tackle have picked up the linebackers blitzeing.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: So a lot more stunting up front, a lot more
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: of these like sort of run blitz concepts. Again, just
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: a pretty big c change, I guess back to what
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: you would associate with Jim Knowles prior to some of
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: his tenure at Ohio State, or even at the beginning
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: of his Ohio State time.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: All Right, so we've talked a couple of times about
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the fact that a lot from last weekend is not
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: going to carry over to this weekend. I feel like
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the audience would be very angry with me, Ross if
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I did not ask you what you're expecting to see
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: from Ohio State this weekend against what is obviously a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Michigan offense that will present some very different challenges from
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the Indiana offense.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Michigan has obviously has been a poor
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: offense this year, right, Like if you look at sp plus,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Michigan is a poor man's version of Iowa in the
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: sense that like good defense, not quite as good as Iowa's,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: poor offense worse than Iowa's. I will say though that
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I think that in the last two games, even the
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Indiana game and then obviously Northwestern, like they've gone from
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: bad offense to at least like somewhat competent. You know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I think that they hit against against Northwestern, it was
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of very short passes into the flats. You know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Colo Mullins is a good running back. The run game
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: looked more like what Michigan did under Jim Harvell. In
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: yours pass you saw some counter So, you know, I
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: do think that they are they are playing their best
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: relative to what they've been this year. Right With Davis Warren,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: the key is, I think we will see lots of pressure.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: His tendency when pressure is to drift back, like he
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: will just start backpedaling further and further back.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So I think you'll see a lot of pressure.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, Michigan is apt to play
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: twelve personnel or even twenty one, like they use Brettist
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in the like he's a you know, traditional fullback right
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: like he is a very effectively brought locker. So I
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: think you're going to see probably lots of four to
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: three I think Arville recently at six naps us Indiana,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: it'll probably be in the thirties versus Michigan. Oh, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: lots of cover one like Ohio State's going through load up.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It'll be like the Iowa game plan essentially, like it's
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: going to be a you know, load up for the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: rock fight Michigan, I'm sure will you know, they're the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: only team I think in the country without a four
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: year pass completion. Like I you know, you say empty
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the playbook, but like in a lot of ways, they've
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: like emptied the playbook this year because they haven't had
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: much choice. Like you know, against the Oregon on third
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and five or whatever, they did a double trick reverse
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: pass to try to score with Alex Orgy in the game.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: They run a flea flicker pretty much every game, so
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you can expect at least one of those. You can
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: probably expect Donovan Edwards to throw pass. They've liked to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: do that. You know, I'm sure they'll take their chances. Obviously,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: David Niguanosen right now has sort of a reputation that
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: refs are aware of and probably try to get themselves
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: some pass interferences. Colson Lovelin, obviously, if he plays, matters
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: a great deal for Michigan. I mean, he's like, they're
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: by far their number one option in the passing game.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: So I think, like similar to Penn State, you will
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: see a lot of Caleb downs on Colson Lovelin if
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: he is playing.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: If he doesn't play, Michigan is pretty berift to options.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I think. Again, see lots of dunking and dunking.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: But I think that del ferrost date again, like lots
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: of Cover one, but obviously it'll be incumbent upon them
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: to make set up enough so that you know, Michigan
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: can't just like run pick plays and stuff like that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Probably mixed in some Cover two with it, but again,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: lots of lots of loading up the box.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we will see how that plays out
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: for the Buckeyes on Saturday. Buckeye's favored by a little
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: over three touchdowns as of right now, so we'll see,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: we have seen, we have seen shocking upsets in this
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: series before. We'll see if it happens again on Saturday.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, even with Michigan feeling better, you know
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you mentioned Davis Born drifting back, I've seen Davis Warren
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: sale a lot of balls high over the middle late
• 22:31
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• 22:34
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• 22:35
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• 22:39
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