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#158 - Frank LeoGrande of LeoGrande Racing · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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Top of the morning, everybody. Welcome back to another episode
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of the After Hours podcast. On today's episode, we have a
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good friend of mine, Frank Leo Grande.
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He's been, I think we've been friends for 15 years now, which
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is kind of insane and also kind of depressing because that means
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I'm getting old. But I've known him pretty much
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since I started drifting. And as you'll see, as we go
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through the beginning of this episode, we start talking about
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the old drift zombie events that happened in Queens, NY, which is
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kind of where we, at least me and a bunch of my friends kind
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of started drifting. So yeah, we go into that and
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you'll see it. It was it was definitely a a
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fun, memorable time. I'm glad, I'm really glad we got
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to go through that stuff because I never thought I would really
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talk about that again. But I forgot that Frank was
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there that whole time. And turns out he was actually
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one of the first people that was drifting at that lot.
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And that's even where he started to learn how to drift.
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So very interesting story here. Frank's been involved with RSD
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in Pennsylvania, all those events for, I mean, pretty much
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since they started. And he also has his own company
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called Leo Grande Racing. So check those guys out on
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guest. This guest, I feel like we've
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paused Pat so many times, but I never really like had a chance
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to have a conversation with you fully.
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So I'm pretty excited. But we have Frank Leo Grand of
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RSD and. There's so many things I don't
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even know. Yeah.
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How do I? Yeah.
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Can we jump into that? It's.
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Leo Grand, right? Leo Grandy.
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It's it's Leo Grandy. Sorry, Facebook group.
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That's all I saw. I need to like go here before.
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We jump into anything. Yeah, I have a complaint.
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Oh shit. Whoever put my picture, it was
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Malcolm. They they.
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That was the only picture I could find.
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That was the first picture you could find.
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Is it? It wasn't even a picture, it was
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a video. I'm looking at it right now,
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yeah. I had to take a screenshot of a
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video. I was like, I can't find his
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face anywhere. All right, let me we we had a
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busy day and Eddie decided today was the best day to take off.
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So Eddie wasn't here, so Malcolm had a jumpy.
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Stick, He's sick. Yeah, so he was.
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I guess that's all you could find.
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God forbid a guy needed a ton of.
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Crunch. That was that was the first
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thing he could find. All right.
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Well, sorry about that. I think you look good, though.
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That doesn't look good. We.
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Won't use that for the actual the cover.
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The cover of it, We'll find it. Oh gosh, have you seen it?
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No, that's not. How bad is it, dude, Mel?
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Hey, it was a busy day bro. It looked, I mean Frank.
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'S like, OK, we're done. I got here a little late too.
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Frank was already here and then I walked in the shop.
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And yet it looks like they had a pretty fucking busy day.
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Is that on your story? Why does that look so obscene?
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There's like, fucking way too many.
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So we ordered, we got a we got our origin lab container today
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and there's too much shit here. So I.
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Don't it it it that don't look right.
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We we won't be ordering that much stuff again.
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So I'm on Frank's Instagram right now and there's 123-4567
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things that are under your name. Are these sponsors or are these
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things that you're involved in? Mostly some of them, like I
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would say sponsors, but a lot of them are just friends.
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OK, there's. Like most of like stuff like
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that has been just for the past like 10 years of knowing just
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there's like probably. Look at this.
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You you got need a quick little. No, because you know, when,
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like, you get someone on a podcast, you're like, let me see
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what he's been into. And like I've been, I've known
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him for literally 15 years maybe.
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Yeah, you did. That so I I came in here and I
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wanted to have the same exact. Like as everyone else.
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Like not not not like. I guess impression, I guess
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Frank, to me, you're the guy who always always on the group be
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answering the questions, even if it's the dumbest fucking
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question, bro. And like, I don't know, to me,
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that's somebody who like grew the community.
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Like I knew I saw your name. Like when I first started
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drifting. We were talking about that
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outside like 2017, like answering questions.
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Like he's, I mean, you've been involved in drifting since
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probably. 2010 since basically since since RSD started and it
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was this like RSD and who else was that lime rock there?
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Was another one at Lime Rock? That was it, Lock.
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City lock city, yes. Yeah, yeah, OK.
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Really, they were the first ones there and then Rs and then they
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left. I don't know there's that's.
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Like there's like a weird thing I.
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Don't know. I don't know who was first, but.
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Fuck, sorry Mike. And Mike is such a good guy.
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We got we got to go up there and see him too.
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I would love to have him on the. Podcast No, Mike Lynch.
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We had him on the podcast. That Mike dummy.
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I thought you meant the like. There's two mics.
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Oh fuck. With the with the crazy last
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name, I can never. Yeah, it's, it's Polish.
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It's like a. It's a long one.
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It's like. Starts with L.
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Lukashevitz. Something like that, yeah.
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I was pretty. I was pretty legit.
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I believe you on that. I.
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Would like to have him on the podcast too.
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One for sure, but he's kind of been out of it right now, right?
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Like, he's not really like. He's like RSD is like he's kind
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of trying to pass the torch so he could, yeah.
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Do other things, yeah. He's been doing it for a long
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time. He's been doing it.
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Forever, man. Yeah.
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Like 15 years, yeah. Or more I feel like.
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Yeah, he's been, he's been not drifting for a while, which kind
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of sucks, but he was doing it for a long time.
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And then I even when I was when he when they first started, I
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was driving, then I was helping out.
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I was driving, I was helping out.
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And then my car that took it apart like I don't know how many
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years ago. And, and I just kept coming to
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events just to like I literally would only go there to to help
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RSD and do like tech and yeah, run grid and.
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And always wear a jumpsuit. Yes, you're a jumpsuit guy.
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Yeah, I know. I dude, I'm telling you, I just
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knew Frank from so far away. I just feel like you were the
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higher authority of that place that I feel like I'm like, yeah,
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I don't want to piss Frank off, dude.
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That would suck it. It didn't like I I was, I didn't
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really get pissed off. There was like some just stupid
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shit where people are like like the biggest thing on South
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course was like don't drift the last turn if you're not in a
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group, because we don't pay like a group.
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We pay attention to the last turn where because you're facing
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people on grid at that point and like B&C were like, don't
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bother. You're not like it's one turn,
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don't do it. Yeah, cuz then we have to wait
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for you to clear to send the next driver and that takes
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longer for B and CA group. We could just send it and just
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time it correctly and guys would like drift the last turn and
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it'd be like don't do that. And they do it again and I'm
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like, OK, that's. Fucking annoying.
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Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, I think is South course.
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Yeah, I'm like trying to picture I'm.
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Trying to picture the one because I, I know, I know what I
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did on the 1st event, but I don't remember what event or
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what layout that was, but OK, here's here's what I remember.
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You're, you're gridded on like the left and you go over a hill
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of some sort and then it's a right.
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Yeah. Into like a oh OK.
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Yeah, dude, that's what I signed because I signed up for this
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Saturday because all my friends bullied me to do it.
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And guess what, Frankie? Guess what?
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What? Ethan's car fucking broke and
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now we can't fix it. So now.
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Oh, you were going to do? Oh yeah, I'm drifting this
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weekend. Oh, you are.
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I didn't even know that. Oh.
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Yeah, well, yeah, neither did I, I did not.
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I did not plan for this and now I have to work.
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I thought you, I thought you only did competition.
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No, bro, my car is registered and everything.
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I drive that shit all the time. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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But no, I'm. I was hoping it was that one.
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Obviously I don't know what north is.
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It's North. The one where you're like,
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flying? Yeah.
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So it's double South this weekend.
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I think it was changed. I think it was like East and
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then S, but now I think it's just S both days.
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Is east the one with the with the little straightaway that you
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could like east of Knob on it pretty hard.
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With like the long straightaway. Yeah.
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That's East. How come can you try to find
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Pocono Raceway and we'll just. Would that be on the Would that
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be on? Would they have that that be?
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I think we just. Find it.
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Pretty helpful. We've done E, we've done every
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course there. South is the one with the hill,
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E is the long straight, N is where you start on the 2.5 on
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the bank and then go into the infield.
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It's it's like the infield of that.
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So yeah, it might work. Yeah, there you go.
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So this right here is a yeah, this fucking mic thing.
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This right here is South. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then back.
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I definitely never did that. East is.
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That middle thing. This coming down.
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Yeah, I would. Fuck.
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Oh, I definitely did that. That's the one you did, I think
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that you were. Talking about and then N is up
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up top. So E is kind of the one with
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more turns, right? Aren't.
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You no S has the most turns. E kind of sucks.
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Yeah, aside from the straight. I feel like the straight is
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freaking awesome. You could haul ass.
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Bless you. Thank you.
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Yeah, but it's but it's awkward, right, Because I remember it
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being like the turns are kind of far and then.
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East is awkward and then that like coming off the straight,
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you could turn this into one turn basically, yeah, if you hit
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it right. That back section was so weird.
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Yeah, you just have this super long straight into a 90° turn
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when when we did it. And then S sometimes they use
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the little this little thing here, a little kink, but I I
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don't like it. You you missed a hill.
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Hey, at least they let you drift there, and that's all that
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fucking matters. That little hill was awesome
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dude, I had a single Cam KA and just like they didn't know what
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the that that hill simulated like a feeling like let's say
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you your first event. Imagine yeah, they like put you
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on a racetrack. Never we had a drivers meeting
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in and then they put the shit in the the paddocks are like the
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NASCAR paddocks. Yeah yeah, that was my first
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event. That's cool.
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I was like what the fuck? I had nobody there.
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Chris was maybe showed up later on in the day.
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Maybe yeah. Then I like I just made some
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other friends. There was fucking sick dude.
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That was a good day and it was hot as fuck.
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Yeah, it was definitely. I think it's.
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Really nice facility. It's nice.
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Pocono is like one of those things where it's either like a
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nice day or it's either like really hot or really cold.
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Or how about when you get there and it's and it's really hot and
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you're like, damn, it's so hot. I you know, this is a really hot
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summer day. And then the second the sun goes
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down, it's freezing and you're like, I remember I had, that was
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the event where I had to like find a garbage bag to keep
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myself warm. Wow.
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Damn. Dude it was so bad like full.
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Survival mode. Oh dude, you told me you went
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around and started to ask you looking for garbage.
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Dude, I was in survival mode like you were probably there.
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I don't know what event this was, it was a long time ago.
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I. Probably was.
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Yeah, it was like 2000, like 1314, maybe 13.
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I was probably there. It was I some days are just
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freezing like I don't I don't bought like I've realized like
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anything after like October, I'm just no.
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Yeah, it's just weird that it was like you were in the desert
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almost all of a sudden. It was like, I guess because
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you're in the Pocono Mountains, but yeah, it's fucking.
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Crazy is RSD the really like the primary place that you would
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drift? Did you go anywhere else
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regularly? Not regularly.
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I did like I went to E town, I went to club booths when I like
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first started. I was terrible.
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My car looked decent. So they like they're like, oh, B
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OK, I've never driven on a course before, but B group
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sounds fine and I was terrible, but I wasn't bad enough that
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they like noticed they were just like, oh, he's.
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Just working out some kinks. Yeah, it.
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Gets from point A to point B fairly quickly, so I'm not going
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to look at him. So that was probably back like
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2010 is she thought or is it before that?
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I wanna, I don't. Wanna see?
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Yeah. I don't know.
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I just like to know these things.
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I feel like. You are a big year guy.
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Well, Frank was here the other day in alignment and I was like,
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yo, when's the first time we met?
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And we were both drifting at the drift zombies thing in in
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Queens. The whole New York operation,
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you were there as well. So this was so.
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I'm pre. Drift Zombies.
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Yes. OK, so he's probably been
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drifting before me now. Don't take this with any
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offense. In fact, take it with like as a
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compliment. But like how old are you?
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36 OK, so we're like. Almost, yeah.
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You guys, you guys are like in the same band.
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Yeah, what the hell is? That that's the Rotary.
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It's a fucking tornado. It sounds like a tornado, dude.
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You know, driving here, I experienced this wind that
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literally I had to like towners to your dude.
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It was crazy. It was crazy.
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Yeah. Did you guys not feel that here?
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No. Nope.
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Yep. New Jersey is not a real place.
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What's been going on lately? I don't know the weather by my
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house and the weather by your house are completely.
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Different. Yeah, it's.
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Crazy, that's. The tornado at fucking E town
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that day was crazy. No, that was fucking insane too.
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That dude, I'm glad. I think everybody was OK, right?
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Like person wise, not car wise, not car wise but injury wise
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everybody. When we were there, they were
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like they were like talking about it and it was way worse
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than what we saw on Instagram because the fucking Toyota like
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whole booth thing collapsed on the cars like the new cars that
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they brought. I'm like fuck that sucks.
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Toyota, we'll fix it. Yeah, Toyota's got.
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It what you got over there, Frankie, dude, he is I'm.
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Wiping this reason I see all the pictures of myself though that
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could have been used. Malcolm eat a Dick dude.
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Fuck fucked. Up.
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That's just a questionnaire, man.
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All right, you know what? You send us some photos for the
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cover show the. Cover photos.
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I'm trying to get there. Well, well, Drew Zombies was.
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Dude, yeah, you're gonna be scrolling for a while.
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Don't you? Well, you said you've been
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drifting before Drifting. So Flushing Meadows used to just
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be like 5-6 of us. We would literally it was all
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car guys. I don't think I talked to any of
19:24
them anymore. I had, I still have a 73 Dodge
19:29
Charger and we would just hang out there and play hacky sack.
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That's all we did. We would go to flashing Meadows
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park and play hacky sack and just chill and eat and do
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nothing. And then all of a sudden.
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And then like drifting started happening.
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I forgot who I forget who had like an it was like an S13.
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They started like drifting. And then another guy who
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unfortunately passed away, Darian Grassman, he had like the
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IT was like the only one I've ever seen at that time.
19:59
It was like a, was it S 14.5? It was like A S14.
20:03
What an S15 front or something like that.
20:05
What color was it? Black dude, I think I remember
20:09
him. Dude, wait a minute, wait a
20:10
minute, wait a minute. This You're telling me this
20:15
isn't dazed and confused? No.
20:17
It's not you're you're telling me you was hanging out in a
20:20
park, You were hanging out in a parking lot.
20:22
They literally went in the hacky sack, didn't play hacky sack,
20:25
they played hacky sack. That was it.
20:26
It was just chill. For the 'cause there's this is a
20:29
wild concept, but there, there were no phones like that.
20:33
Yeah, yeah, you probably had like a razor.
20:35
Or some shit. Exactly.
20:36
Instagram didn't start yet, so yeah, no.
20:38
No, you had years before Instagram was about to start. 12
20:42
or 11 or something. But then you're so Frank's there
20:46
doing hitting one of these, you know what I mean?
20:47
Get on the back of your neck or whatever and then I'm.
20:51
Just trying to find. This guy and then a 13 comes
20:54
drifting in. This is a movie.
20:57
Yeah, no, it wasn't every night there was a movie.
20:59
Yeah, like 100%. It was a so it's, it's like, you
21:05
know how like people, I was telling this to Frank the other
21:07
day, like you have like this view of like fast and Furious.
21:12
Like you go to the thing and there's all these cars and all
21:15
these people and it's like a party.
21:16
And that never that's not really a thing.
21:18
But during that time, like at one point, it was that.
21:24
Dude, as you're saying that like I'm.
21:27
So. Frankie, look at Frankie's face.
21:29
He's so you. You're CNN.
21:31
Because he was, he was saying that and I don't fucking know.
21:35
I need to see his car. So I can find that.
21:37
But as he's saying that like, oh, you don't see like that Fast
21:39
and Furious shit. When did you start going to
21:42
Edgewater here? Like 2014 or.
21:45
OK, that was right. Literally right after.
21:47
It was like fucking crazy. Yeah, and it was like the the
21:50
whole sensation for me back, not sensation.
21:53
A lot of people there though. Not sensation, but like the
21:55
whole thing that like was crazy about it was seeing that many
21:59
people and then you would have to scatter and then that makes
22:01
you feel like a criminal and you're like fuck.
22:04
You So it was like that, but even crazier like like we had
22:08
that. So we had Edgewater and it was
22:09
nuts. It was like Fast and Furious
22:11
every time you went and then yeah, dude, I remember him.
22:15
Yeah. And then and then you had drift
22:17
zombies in Queens or we call it drift zombies, but I know you
22:20
guys were there before that, but you had the queen shit and it
22:24
was like Fast and Furious there and we were like what is going
22:26
on? Man, Derek would know so much
22:28
about this shit at Derek on the bicycle.
22:30
In case you didn't know who that was a famous.
22:32
You know Derek and Bicon? You heard of him?
22:34
I can't say I have. That's all right.
22:36
That's all right, we'll go over that now, but that's the
22:40
craziest shit I've ever heard. I feel like that is going to be
22:45
a movie in the future, or at least it's going to have a.
22:47
Camera. It could be mainly.
22:48
Because of how many times we've talked about it and if the fact
22:51
that there was a level of organization that happened.
22:54
Yeah, that that happened like. That was the problem though.
22:57
So like you're, so it was like 2012.
23:00
I just was looking. It was like 2012.
23:02
We were there and then what's going on here?
23:05
What the fuck are you doing? This thing's pissing me off.
23:11
I'm just gonna have like a mid pod there.
23:14
You're tech reset. OK, you're.
23:15
Good. Wow.
23:17
So. Sorry, I had to fix it.
23:18
Mics. What the fuck is this?
23:21
That shit was. Pissing me off just.
23:22
Started a story. No, please continue the story
23:24
because I really want to hear this I.
23:25
Don't even know what you fixed, but it looked interesting.
23:27
Yeah, I just could see that thing getting caught.
23:30
So this is like 2012. So we started just hanging out
23:33
there and this literally we didn't do anything but hang out.
23:36
And then my friends got into like drifting because like kind
23:41
of the the new people kind of showed up and some of the people
23:44
that were just there like had like quote UN quote drift cars.
23:47
I had a 73 Dodge Charger with. That that checks out, by the
23:49
way. With an open diff.
23:50
You probably looked so cool coming out of that shit.
23:53
I'm not even going to hold you. I.
23:54
Don't think I look cool, but I remember like the first like
23:58
drift experience I got. I was like Derek.
24:01
I let I let Darren drive my car. Darren.
24:05
Darren. Why am I forgetting his name
24:06
already? I think you said Darien.
24:08
Yeah, I let him drive the IT was like wet out and I was like,
24:12
he's like, can I take the charger?
24:13
And I was like, I trust you. And he like drifted with me and
24:16
the charger with like an open diff because that it was like
24:18
working enough. Yeah, like, oh, this is so much
24:21
fun. Oh no, that was.
24:23
It and then I fucked around with the car for a bit and I was
24:25
like, well, maybe I want to make the charger a drift car.
24:28
And then I didn't. I ended up I forget when I got
24:32
the E30. It was probably I have to look,
24:34
it was what are we 2000? Probably like 2015 is when I got
24:38
the 2014. Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I
24:41
think it's earlier. I think everything's earlier.
24:43
Dude, OK, so I'm we're just not, I'm not done with the charger
24:47
topic yet because that shit is just sick.
24:50
I'm like what the fuck dude? I just like that that was your
24:54
car of of choice. Was that your first?
24:57
Car that was so that was the first car that like I that was
25:01
like mine, like the other. I had like a 67 Thunderbird that
25:05
literally was like I never got to drive it.
25:07
It was just a project that I never finished.
25:09
And then that was like the that was like the first car that was
25:12
like mine and I drove it literally it was like my daily
25:17
driver. I drove it probably like 30,000
25:20
miles in a year. Like I literally just drove it
25:22
everywhere. I drove it throughout like
25:24
basically anywhere in the northeast.
25:26
I've driven this car too to like pick up parts or to just like
25:29
the Charger. Yeah, that is.
25:30
I drove it everywhere. I, I want, I don't know what it
25:34
is in me right now, but anything big body like that, fucking love
25:39
it right now. I just love that that's the
25:42
that's his intro to drifting right there.
25:44
Dude, you get that thing to slide out, you're telling me
25:47
you're not letting out like a yeah, this is like a big ass,
25:53
those big ass hips of that, but. Dude, a lot of people learned
25:56
what drifting was in that parking lot.
25:58
Yeah, so it was like, so it started there and before it was
26:02
big, like the cops would show up and 9 out of 10 times they would
26:06
just be like, OK, have a good night.
26:09
And like, that was it. That was all They were like, oh,
26:11
you guys aren't like drinking and doing drugs.
26:13
You're just fucking around in the parking lot, the five of
26:15
you. Nobody else is there.
26:17
Literally it's an empty parking lot.
26:18
They're like, all right, well, have a good night.
26:21
And like, at the most they'd be like, OK, you guys got to leave.
26:23
And then we would get on the highway, drive to Wendy's, have
26:26
Wendy's I. Remember that too.
26:28
And then go back to the like 30 minutes later, go back there.
26:32
And then what happened was they like it.
26:35
It's it sounded cool at the time, but like, what was it?
26:40
I think Doug. Yes.
26:42
Doug and some of the other guys like after, you know, I forget
26:47
there's so many people, I'm forgetting their names, but they
26:49
were like wanted to make it into a thing like.
26:52
This guy Mike, I remember this guy Mike.
26:53
Yes, I think he had a Mustang. I don't know what he had been a
26:56
Mustang. I'm thinking about Mike with an
26:58
S14 or S13. OK, but I don't remember his
27:00
last name. He's he's working FD now with
27:02
some team, so I have I. Have video, I pull up video.
27:04
I still have video from from those days, but it was literally
27:08
like they tried to turn it into like an event like an actual
27:11
like like a sanctioned event, like they had like a flyer with
27:15
like. I see you were talking about the
27:16
this. Shit is insane dude.
27:18
They had a flyer with like, you know, like your start and
27:21
finishes, like your, your, your zones and everything.
27:24
Like it was a legit thing. And then what happened was that
27:28
got so big, it like you could have brought like a camera crew
27:33
and people would have been like, oh, this is the Fast.
27:35
They're filming Fast and Furious over here.
27:36
Like that's how it was. Wish someone did that.
27:39
I know people. There's videos.
27:41
There's videos but not anything big.
27:43
There's no way somebody didn't fucking have like, someone's
27:46
camcorder. There's, there's some stuff like
27:48
there's some shit on YouTube. I've seen it before.
27:50
Yeah, I have some. I'll see if I can find it.
27:52
It's like I'm just sitting here like, like, no, that's fine.
27:54
We're still having like a great conversation.
27:56
Your story's great. Whatever makes you comfortable.
27:58
Man, the craziest part is like, I don't want to be the one to
28:02
say this, but I think I'm being truthful.
28:04
This is this that that was probably one of the biggest
28:08
drifting things going on in New York City.
28:10
Yeah. Ever.
28:11
Yes. And it might still have been.
28:12
Like in terms of like, like illegal but like unsanctioned,
28:19
Yeah, yeah, I would say it's it probably.
28:21
And the earliest because it was around 2010 to 2012.
28:24
That's. What Need for Speed really was
28:26
about? It was it was there 2000 like it
28:28
was 2012 was when that like. It's it really started getting
28:32
crazy. Yeah.
28:34
Or like or like a bro I'm picturing.
28:36
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Early 2012, 'cause I had my S14
28:39
still and then the end of 2012 was when Hurricane Sandy hit, I
28:42
think. And then you lost your then I
28:44
lost my S14 and yeah, God damn. And I think I only went one time
28:47
with my S13. I have like this is I was Chris
28:51
as one of the other guys that was there.
28:52
Malcolm, you think? Nah, you probably can't get this
28:55
shit anyway it. Was I don't like.
28:57
Just show Carl. I know, I know about this.
29:01
I'm going to. Describe it in grave detail.
29:04
Because I'm picturing like a fucking.
29:07
Hold on sorry if I could I'm just going to see if I can find
29:09
something that like I have videos of myself but like here
29:13
it. Goes yeah, but even if he's like
29:14
a lot. I feel like I've seen a lot
29:16
because you guys describe it. There's there's like an
29:18
overpass. Yeah, and that's when like, no
29:22
one's there, right? Yeah, nobody.
29:23
This is like just a quiet like night.
29:26
So were you guys mad as fuck when like everyone started doing
29:28
like it, you know? It got annoying, like it
29:32
granted, it was gonna like it was gonna turn into this anyway
29:34
because of like just the world, but yeah, dude.
29:38
OK, so it's a big parking lot There's and.
29:40
But here's the thing that makes it cool.
29:41
There's shit to hit. Yeah, every time there's shit to
29:44
hit, you're it's a good time. Turn the audio down.
29:47
I'm just taking the fucking listeners.
29:49
Dude it's a good time as long as you have stuff to hit.
29:52
Yeah, dude, there was the remember the wooden fences
29:55
around? I hit the wooden, you hit the
29:56
wooden fence. No, just destroyed the wooden
29:58
fence. I hit the wooden.
29:59
Fence. Yeah, I have to try to bring
30:01
that. Somewhere.
30:02
Malcolm, bring up Flushing Meadow Park and go to the
30:06
parking lot and we'll show you where it is.
30:08
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Google Maps is that is that No,
30:11
it's fucking they. You can't do this anymore.
30:13
You. Can't they put these big like
30:17
concrete? More so I just want to show you
30:19
the situation, OK, It's definitely that big ass parking
30:24
lot so. It's yeah, right there actually.
30:28
No, no, zoom out. Where there?
30:31
You go? Yeah.
30:36
So. It was the whole thing.
30:37
So yeah, so all these like. Oh my God, There's still like
30:40
kind of marks of the layout kind, so.
30:43
They put all these like barriers.
30:45
Can you put like a? Is there a way to like go back
30:47
in time for like? Oh wait, what if, what if you go
30:49
on that overpass? Can you look over that bitch?
30:51
Yes, people were on that. No.
30:52
No, no, like, like I'm talking like in on like on the maps guy,
30:59
No like place yourself on the overpass or whatever.
31:02
I swear to God I've seen an episode of Neutral Drop right
31:05
here. I.
31:06
Swear. Yes.
31:07
Dude. Can we go 2013?
31:10
Can you? Holy crap.
31:12
Whoa, that's crazy. That's so sad.
31:15
Technology. Go over to the left, Malcolm,
31:17
Just drag. Yeah, OK.
31:18
That's where. You can see like most of it was
31:20
like you'd come around here, you'd come through like this
31:23
area around this pole. See that fence down there in the
31:25
back by the grass? That wooden little fence?
31:27
Yeah, Justin went fucking flying into that thing in the back of
31:30
his car. Did it break it?
31:31
It broke the exhaust off. And then the cops came and we're
31:34
like trying to hang the exhaust up with fucking like those
31:36
hangers and. Shit, don't know.
31:38
I don't know what. That was the right down there.
31:40
That's the unloading spot, so we bring the trailers in.
31:42
Like people had trailers and shit.
31:44
It was. It was a great time.
31:46
The fact that bro, Yeah. That's somebody.
31:51
Watching 100% wait, look at the marks all the way down there.
31:55
Bro, dude, this is where all the people would be with the
31:56
fucking, you know, remember that shit, Frank the fucking, the SU
31:59
VS with the fucking speakers and.
32:01
Stuff. I figure what they're called.
32:02
But our people? Would just literally just hang
32:04
out on the pole I have. I have a video here somewhere
32:07
you can get a better idea. On the look, you see that
32:09
Malcolm in the back, Those towers?
32:11
That's from fucking Men in Black right now.
32:14
The fucking Oh, you've probably never seen the movie, but that's
32:17
Flushing Meadow Park. Where the fuck is this?
32:20
I can't believe that we were able to go back in time like
32:23
that. That's pretty dope.
32:25
Like you, that's actually the visual.
32:27
Yo this is so crazy to see. Look.
32:30
Yeah, that was all us. I'm so.
32:31
Glad you said to do that. Damn, I would.
32:34
Never thought so. Yeah.
32:35
So we'd be down here right and then.
32:37
So that's in the future. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
32:40
Now look to the right, to the right up there.
32:42
So all the trucks would be there, all the all the people
32:45
would be up there playing music and shit and be watching from
32:47
the overpass while you're just drifting down here and you'd be
32:51
setting up somewhere over here on the left is.
32:52
That a 240 down there? Oh Oh no it's not, I didn't.
32:58
That would have. There's AE46M3 right there
33:00
though. That looks real nice.
33:02
That is. Yeah, dude, this brings back
33:05
some. Good.
33:05
Oh, gosh, not the Oh no, it's a oh, leave him alone that's back.
33:09
Malcolm in like fucking 30 years.
33:11
That's your dad. Actually.
33:12
Like, literally. Literally right now.
33:14
But yeah, man, that's cool. Yeah, that's actually insane
33:17
every time. We talk.
33:18
I got something. Yeah, I finally found him.
33:20
Every time we talk about this shit I'm like damn, that was
33:22
probably so fun. It's crazy, yeah.
33:25
Like, this is before I knew how to, before I knew how to drive.
33:28
I mean, I still don't know how to drive, but this is well
33:30
before that. Oh my God, we're having an
33:34
earthquake again. Yeah, sorry, there's a car. 30
33:36
already though. So like, yeah, this was 2. 1000
33:39
ever since you started, you've been in the E30.
33:41
Yeah. I've been in that car realm.
33:43
Yeah, that. Car.
33:44
Specifically, yeah. Dude so.
33:46
That's why. So Frank, you, you grew up in
33:48
Brooklyn. Yeah.
33:49
So he was from New York, right? So we'd be over here and we'd be
33:53
like setting our cars up, like we're going to a fucking event,
33:55
you know, like we have to drive through New York City and get
33:58
there and you guys are just going there.
33:59
That's like your normal shit. Yeah.
34:00
We. Would just that was like we'd
34:02
show up and yeah, whatever happens happens, we'd be.
34:05
Prepping like we're going to fucking what do you call it?
34:07
Night moves like it was just. Crazy.
34:10
It was a whole thing. Like people took it super
34:12
seriously. The Jersey guys.
34:14
There was, we had also like there was a whole Long Island
34:16
crew that would come in. Yeah.
34:18
And then there was there was spots in Long Island too that
34:21
were good. There was.
34:22
I don't know where they are, that airport.
34:24
I know how to get there. I don't know like where there
34:26
is, but it's like there was one by like a train station ending
34:30
in like I forget what exit that was.
34:34
And then there was just like a road in Long Island somewhere.
34:37
It was just like an S, It was a little S curve and that's like
34:40
that's all it was. But it was awesome.
34:41
It was just everyone would go there and just drift and then
34:44
leave. Yeah.
34:46
That's just so crazy dude. My God, now when I think about
34:49
doing anything St. Related, I'm like all right, one
34:52
try. Yeah, yeah, that's how it was
34:55
over here too though, like when we would do any St. stuff.
34:58
Dude, I'm going to do something soon.
34:59
I'm going to. I'm going to have I have a list.
35:01
Of all the spots of. All the things that I want to do
35:04
and I'm going to just do them all in a.
35:05
Row. Hey, as long as you're safe.
35:06
It is what it is, that South. Jersey one dude.
35:09
South Jersey extravaganza. I got a lot of drift spots in
35:13
South Jersey. I feel like, I feel like as long
35:15
as it's safe, like whatever, like as long as no one's on the
35:19
road. Yeah, that's The thing is like,
35:21
don't. But back then it wasn't even
35:23
like like now it's like they're going to try to like hit you
35:26
over the head for everything. Back then, it was literally, I
35:29
don't think anyone even got tickets, you know, it was just
35:31
like, but. What do you what would you get a
35:32
ticket for? Like trespassing I guess, or
35:34
disturbing the. They wanted to give you.
35:36
They wanted to give you like they thought you were drag
35:40
racing. Every single time you get
35:41
stopped, they were like. Well, that was what was.
35:43
That was like the takeover equivalent of like now you know
35:46
what I mean. Like.
35:47
Me and Justin got pulled over way after we did like an on ramp
35:51
and I don't even know if you saw it, but he saw the Marks and he
35:54
saw smoke and he found us and he's like.
35:56
I saw you hit the whole shot back.
35:58
There or something. We're like what?
36:00
Yo that's sick. We're like what the fuck are
36:02
calling it that? Yeah, and we're like, we don't
36:04
we. No, we didn't.
36:06
Getting lead driver, you're getting the whole shot.
36:08
Yeah, it was so weird. I was like, what?
36:10
But yeah, I don't know. They didn't know.
36:12
They didn't know What the fuck is going on.
36:14
And then they're they were. I remember being there.
36:16
I got a flat, like my tire like exploded.
36:20
I didn't have a spare. Yeah, I like literally left my
36:23
car there. The cop was there like, oh,
36:24
could I, when you come back, could I get a ride?
36:26
I'm like sure. Bro that shit happened to me,
36:29
like not there but yeah same shit dude it was.
36:31
So you just got in the back? When I ended up going, he wasn't
36:34
there when we got back. But like they would like the
36:36
cops were just like they, we weren't doing anything.
36:39
We were, we were in a parking lot most of the time by
36:42
ourselves. And they were just like, all
36:43
right, well, what else are they going to fucking do?
36:45
This is the level of understanding that people wish
36:48
still existed, but unfortunately, people.
36:51
We all know the way. Where now we can't go back.
36:54
It's like the cops ain't never going to be more lenient.
36:57
Like they know that there's places now to do this.
37:01
Yeah, takeover has ruined everything.
37:02
Maybe back then they were like, well where the fuck else are
37:05
they going to do this shit? And dude, even the cops that
37:07
were here in the open house, they were like the first thing
37:09
they said. They were like, well, we see all
37:10
these people doing like, burnouts in like parking lots
37:12
and like in intersections and shit.
37:14
And I'm like, yeah, we don't do that.
37:15
And we don't do that. Not the same.
37:17
Thing I have to explain to him. There's no like, the problem is
37:19
there's no like in their eyes, there's no difference.
37:22
Yeah, You know, it's like, oh, it's a car that's lowered with
37:24
wheels doing, you know, it looks like it could be doing that.
37:27
And it's like, but back then it was, it was I don't, that's what
37:31
I don't that's the problem is they don't like the people
37:33
today. I don't say the kids today, but
37:35
then I just sound old. But like they don't get how
37:38
things were. Like it wasn't we, we didn't do
37:40
this in the middle of the street.
37:41
We did this like in the middle of nowhere in like a industrial
37:45
area or in a parking lot that nobody was there.
37:47
And we didn't do it to put it on Instagram or to put it on
37:49
Facebook. But we did it because we enjoyed
37:51
it. And we took like, we took videos
37:53
and shit, but like we weren't there like, oh, it's like, you
37:56
know, with the whole like film crew, like trying to like get
37:59
all these angles and shit. We're just like, oh, this is
38:00
fun. Not to mention how wack what
38:02
they're doing is. Yeah.
38:03
They're just doing Donuts. Like we had a you guys had a
38:05
whole fucking layout. There was a track in the fucking
38:08
parking lot. I.
38:08
Was going to say, like, nowadays it's hard for me to not film.
38:13
Actually, it's pretty easy for me to not film things.
38:15
I'll forget it 'cause I'm having so much fun.
38:18
But. But Instagram is such a big
38:19
thing I have. To film things now.
38:21
So then it fucking makes you feel weird 'cause you're like, I
38:25
don't want to be weird and film this.
38:26
And when I want to just enjoy this, which all happens actually
38:30
a lot more than people think. So the the drift zombies
38:34
Facebook is still does still exist.
38:35
So there are posts from 2012 and and stuff like can you show?
38:39
Yourself, Malcolm, Is this a thing?
38:42
Dude, I forgot. It is still there you.
38:46
Want another beer mouth? I'm so glad you're here right
38:52
now and we could talk about this shit.
38:53
I appreciate. It it's like somebody of your
38:55
same age, not dude. I saw him the other day and I
38:58
was like, why the fuck haven't we had Frank on you?
39:00
This guy is. That sick.
39:01
What the fuck bro look. At that photo.
39:05
Look. At that photo, that's one of the
39:08
island side cars, so that's the original island side.
39:11
That was fucking. What's his face?
39:12
Was it Dougal? Dougal.
39:14
Yeah, that's Dougal, right it. Was Dougal and I forgot?
39:18
Ticket, Ticket. Photo I did my.
39:21
Bash bar I forgot his name. They did great work too.
39:23
Which and like Google. I know you're talking about
39:26
yeah. Fuck, I forgot that he was on
39:28
that. Yo, I don't mean to interrupt
39:30
but you know how the like people enjoying them, enjoying
39:33
themselves, not one phone insight.
39:34
Look at not one phone insight, Not one phone insight.
39:37
I see one camera maybe in the back corner on the left.
39:41
Malcolm, you would have been fucking loving this shit.
39:43
Dude it's the fact that one it look cold as hell right now.
39:50
Yeah. Look at everybody, yeah.
39:51
It looks like a nice. But it looks like everybody's
39:53
pretty behaved, like no one is up against that fucking wooden
39:59
thing. Yeah, everyone's.
40:00
Behind it ands out jumping out in front of it.
40:02
Like if that car hit that wooden barrier you would be OK.
40:06
This is the closest you're going to get to a Japanese fucking St.
40:09
event happening in in in the US. Dude, what else we.
40:12
Got go to the comments. Oh yeah, what?
40:14
What? What was on there?
40:16
Oh, sweet guesses. So Dustin, he's now, he was.
40:19
In, oh, Dustin Delva, Yeah. He was in.
40:21
I think he's back. He was in Florida.
40:22
Is he back here? Now he's.
40:24
Up north in Boston. He isn't Wait.
40:26
Dusty yes, that's the one. That's.
40:27
In my house I met him bro. Yeah, Dustin Delva.
40:30
Dustin Delva the one who like has a 996 LLS.
40:34
Yeah, dust thing. Remember back.
40:36
Now with that. Thing what the?
40:38
Fuck did he have back then, bro? He was always on the struggle
40:41
bus and he fucking met. Yeah, what he's doing now.
40:44
Does he is such a good guy man, I miss Dustin.
40:47
That was that that was that's I had no idea who he was bro we
40:50
were hanging out at my house just like doing stuff I was
40:53
painting my first car. He was just hanging out there,
40:55
just fucking crazy. What the?
40:57
Fuck, dude. I can't wait to get him on here,
40:58
man. That's going to be fun.
41:00
But that's where we met. Like that's where everyone met
41:02
each other right here. This is where, this is where.
41:04
If it wasn't Club loose, it was this event where Long Island,
41:07
New York City and all the Jersey people all met each other.
41:10
What else we got? Hit a scroll on this, hit the.
41:13
That's. All there's no little.
41:16
What if you click next? What happens on the next?
41:18
Picture, not the that's. My friend Alex, right?
41:20
There. Oh hey, Oh shit.
41:24
Damn dude that he was always at club Lewis these.
41:27
Guys, little Hatch guy with a big wing on it.
41:31
Oh gosh. That was that was I, I was
41:34
forgetting his name. Oh, Anthony Fallon.
41:36
Anthony. Yes.
41:37
Yo, Malcolm, that's Anthony Fallon.
41:40
Whenever you met him. A Mustang, Where did I meet him?
41:43
Ariana Grande. This is the bodyguard that.
41:46
Guard, let's not, let's not be too quiet.
41:48
Yeah, don't be too loud about that.
41:49
My fault. Yeah, you're the one.
41:51
Who's I? Wouldn't I?
41:52
Wouldn't have gone that far, but yeah.
41:55
What else? So he had run a podcast.
41:56
Why wouldn't I talk about that? He had a Mustang, he had a
41:58
Mustang and that was it. He just drove that Mustang
42:02
everywhere club loose like, and then he showed up because he
42:05
lived in New York. Yeah, Yeah.
42:07
So. Dude this looks fucking awesome.
42:11
This is so funny. What the heck?
42:13
What else we got? Oh, it's frozen.
42:18
Oh, is that Jeff? Is that Jeff's car?
42:20
Yeah, it is Jeff Marlowe. It is Jeff Marlowe.
42:23
I remember that fucking piece of shit car.
42:25
Has that car still? No, I don't know.
42:28
Sometimes he posts pictures of his cars recently and I'm like,
42:31
you still have a. Car that was probably that car
42:34
right there is probably the first car I ever went drifting
42:36
in. Whoa wait, was this the white
42:38
one? It turned into the white one
42:41
'cause then he have a white coupe as well.
42:42
This my was pretty. Fucked.
42:43
I don't know if he kept this thing.
42:45
Where am I bugging? This was his.
42:46
First drift car ever. Sylvia Front.
42:48
Like dude, that that. He painted, I remember he
42:51
painted it blue. It wasn't always blue.
42:52
It was a mixed match when I was when I saw it for the first
42:55
time. But then you painted it all one
42:57
color. He fucking rolled that shit on,
42:59
I think, and the he had the tubs inside.
43:01
I was like, you destroyed this. Dude this looks so sick.
43:07
Chris Barbone. Yeah, Shit, dude.
43:10
That's so cool the. Fact that you both know these
43:12
people are like, are you know, if you could talk about this,
43:15
it's fucking crazy to me. This is awesome.
43:18
Look at this. Oh man, like real Frankie.
43:21
Commented. On this picture, yes.
43:23
Commented this awesome picture that's.
43:25
Insane. That is an awesome photo.
43:27
That is a sick photo dude. You should save that.
43:30
That's that looks that looks like definitely.
43:33
Like we have to save all because there's going to be a time where
43:35
these are going to be. Gone where the shit gets wiped
43:36
off people. Oh gosh, that was a brand new
43:38
car. People aren't going to like,
43:40
we're going to be talking about this and people are going to be
43:42
like, yeah, he's just old. Just yeah, yeah.
43:44
That never happened. No, people probably think that
43:45
now. Yeah.
43:48
Keep going, Malc, what else we got in?
43:50
Here. Oh yeah.
43:51
Wait a minute dude, that wheel is about to.
43:53
Fall. Oh my God, look at the rear
43:54
wheel. That shit is about to fall.
43:57
The hell. I thought that was me for a
43:58
minute, but that is not me. Well, I.
43:59
Don't even know who that is. That wheel is fucked up.
44:04
There's fucking Josh that's not jumping in.
44:08
Bro this is dope. Look at look at this your ass
44:10
kid. I love that style, dude.
44:12
I love that flared out. Dude that car looks really good.
44:14
Whatever who that car that is looks this is a good photo.
44:18
Hopefully they they they find this the.
44:20
Bandana. Dude, the gloves.
44:23
You see the gloves. You know who, actually?
44:24
Drives a gloves like that. Daryl.
44:26
Daryl, right? Daryl drives gloves like that.
44:28
Dude the island slide guys were fucking gnarly.
44:30
They're teaching that motherfucker.
44:31
Yeah, they did. Loose, like most, like a lot of
44:34
the island guys that were there were, were drifting and loose at
44:37
that time, yeah. They were, they were always at
44:40
club. Louis for sure.
44:41
Is that Dougal? Yeah, definitely.
44:43
That was Dougal's car. Because then he like he had to,
44:46
I don't know if that was, I'm trying to think of this.
44:49
He he like cut the whole front end off that car.
44:51
I think at one point or like one of the frame rails was replaced.
44:54
That's literally Ryan Cooper from fucking need for speed Pro
44:57
Street I swear to God. Same car.
45:00
They made it about him. Let's keep going now, see if we
45:03
see any more people. I remember that car.
45:05
I don't know who that is. This is so.
45:09
That's. Crazy.
45:09
No way it was a vert the car from earlier.
45:12
I don't remember. I don't remember it but.
45:14
It wasn't. That's crazy.
45:15
It's actually that's like a that's that's.
45:18
Pretty new 2011 that thing. 'S fresh off the lot.
45:21
Yeah, who's? Is that Frankie Echovich?
45:24
No, it's not. Look at this idiot is the
45:28
there's Anthony. Fallon fucking flag on.
45:30
Sick photo. He was the only one drifting
45:32
like a brand new Mustang at the time.
45:34
Like oh, 'cause these were. Also, it was pretty new.
45:36
Right now, yeah, you're. Pointing out the G, but.
45:38
Yeah, it was pretty new that. Was a brand new cartoon.
45:40
Ohh wait, they got a whole helmet on right?
45:45
Now bro, I'm not kidding bro, you know when it.
45:47
Was it was an event? Yes, and that's that's a race
45:53
quip helmet, look at that. Yeah, that's a fucking bro,
45:56
people. Really.
45:57
I'm telling you, this was. As close as, like, I won't say
46:02
anywhere in the United States, but this was as close as New
46:04
York City or New York State maybe was to Japanese.
46:09
Like, yeah. I hope somebody can combat that
46:11
and you guys just don't know about it.
46:12
It's like. Dude, I hope so.
46:14
Well, up here in Oneonta. Or like California somewhere
46:17
like like I wish, I wish someone.
46:18
Yeah, I'm sure there were like mountain dudes and stuff like,
46:21
but in, especially in New York City, there's Chris again,
46:24
especially in New York City, nothing like this.
46:26
Didn't I can't. This did not happen anywhere.
46:28
Else so cool. Dude, what the fuck?
46:30
Yeah, dude, like. Yeah, I need it.
46:35
I I actually need it. I didn't even know that that.
46:38
Exist, Malcolm. No, that exists.
46:40
Fucking G37. 30 more on here, there probably are a lot more.
46:45
No way there's tons of other posts.
46:48
Oh. It was a friend I remember.
46:52
OK, I remember this. There, there was like a like,
46:56
there was Flyers. It was the whole thing 11.
46:58
It was really 2011 two. 1011 2012 if you just click see all.
47:02
Photos OK thirteen yeah, that was that's.
47:04
What we had videos look. At.
47:07
This bro who the hell with damn nothing?
47:11
But if you go back and just. Just Scroll down.
47:14
Yeah, just. Scroll.
47:15
Oh, because we just typed drift. Stuff, Yo, there's this.
47:17
Guy Yep, look at. This shit.
47:21
There's anything you found that's a Night Moves event?
47:23
Oh, so that's the car? Yo BSKFS.
47:27
Yeah, it's kind of cool. Kind of looks.
47:28
Like BSKFS? Who was that in the Gray one?
47:32
Go that? Who is that?
47:35
Fuck God I. Don't know, that looks familiar.
47:37
That might have been. It was that Doug.
47:39
Yeah, yeah. That's a Doug.
47:40
That's a Chris O'Neill photo I've gotten that's like probably
47:43
one of the people who took a photo.
47:45
Of my car. Can you click first the
47:46
comments? Ever.
47:49
Doug's. Phone.
47:50
Shot on Doug's car. Yeah, it was Doug.
47:52
And those do. Those wheels were the MB.
47:54
What do you call them? Not the battles.
47:56
Weapon. I had a weapon.
47:58
I know. Yes they are MB Weapon.
48:00
I had a set of those, a tech finals.
48:02
I like those ones. Do you?
48:04
Yeah, well, back then I liked them.
48:05
I told Qantas face that I didn't like them and he.
48:09
Has. No, they're good spare wheels
48:11
though, like. I felt like such a fucking
48:13
asshole. I don't hate those wheels for
48:14
sure, but. I had them and like they were
48:17
definitely. Jeff's second car.
48:18
No, it's not. That's the guy I'm talking
48:19
about. Click two others up top.
48:22
That's Mike, I think. Yeah, Mike.
48:25
Marie yeah. Mike, yeah, he does like FD
48:28
stuff now. Yeah.
48:29
I don't know what team it is, but.
48:31
I need to get him on here too. That would be good.
48:32
Seeing you guys stroll down memory lane right now is.
48:35
No way. That is, we got a NYPD car on
48:41
here right now. He's.
48:41
About to send it. He looks like he's.
48:43
About to send it send the shit out of that.
48:46
Thing he probably wrote through the course.
48:47
Oh shit, look. Look, facts.
48:49
What is this? What the hell is this?
48:50
Oh, we sold a rocket Bunny kit to someone.
48:52
Oh my God, I thought this was going to be like a Oh my God
48:55
there's my S14. No, no it's not.
48:57
Oh my God, that would have been wild.
48:59
Look at this. 40% chance of raining at 1:00 AM.
49:01
No big deal, but we'll be like, what?
49:03
Oh, there it is again. That's Justin's car.
49:05
Before we went to Drift Zombies one night, that was at Nissan.
49:08
We were getting it ready. It's funny, bro.
49:12
No fucking way. So like, no, fuck, what the hell
49:16
is going on in? This you just hear the fast
49:18
furious music in the back. Yeah, yeah.
49:21
Fucking zombies event. Event.
49:25
Yeah, yeah, they're calling it the event.
49:27
There's like way too many cars. The best was when like they do
49:31
single laps and stuff and then you'd get like the A group.
49:33
Like people would go outside to me, yeah.
49:35
Then the whole e-mail just came. Damn dude, look at look at how
49:42
drift cars look back then. I know I was just about to say
49:45
green one for people who are like listening and maybe
49:48
hopefully watching and you will see these things when you're
49:51
watching, dude. Like it was a wild the wild.
49:57
West Oh yeah. In terms of style, I feel like.
50:00
Yeah, Yeah. Well, yeah, 100%.
50:02
You would run into somebody who drifts.
50:04
Well, that's you don't know what what the fuck they were about
50:06
to. Put on, but that's because
50:07
Instagram didn't exist and no one really cared as much as they
50:10
did. Well, like then you see somebody
50:11
who who like was into the magazines and shit and then
50:14
because that was the only way that you were going to get that
50:16
information or maybe somebody told you or you saw it or
50:18
whatever. Yeah, you're right.
50:20
Well, on and Sylvia and all that.
50:21
Kind of crazy, dude. What the fuck?
50:23
Yeah, you could, if you had a computer that you would fucking.
50:26
Yeah, like we'd go on Sylvia and see all the cool cars like
50:29
fucking Matt Powers car. Damn.
50:30
Oh, is that is that? A holy crap is this a video?
50:33
Yes, video I made with my iPhone 2012.
50:35
That's iPhone 1. Holy shit.
50:39
That looks like a takeover right there.
50:40
That does look like, but nobody, I don't see anybody in the
50:42
middle of that. There you go.
50:44
That looks sick. And how many people hit those
50:47
poles do you remember? I don't remember too many.
50:48
Not too many. This person's killing it.
50:52
Like. That's a that's a great ass.
50:54
Car for, for what we were doing, like I don't maybe like two or
50:59
three people over the years. Yeah, it wasn't a lot that like,
51:01
I don't remember anyone really that like had to get towed out
51:04
of there. This lot is perfect.
51:06
Dude, there's a lot of Sylvia Coupes.
51:09
Yeah, like Sylvia Front. End.
51:10
Oh yeah. Coupes.
51:11
Yeah, this. Was every coup it?
51:14
Was all two 40s like that? Was it?
51:17
It was just two. 40 Are you trying to hear that?
51:19
No, I'm just trying to. It's like squeezing my fucking
51:21
head. Feel free to take them off, you
51:22
got him. You can like, yeah.
51:23
Is there like an adjustment on there?
51:25
No, we just I have some people are getting hurt by these things
51:27
lately. I think we got a fucking.
51:28
I'm telling you, it's the ear pads.
51:30
They just kind of squeeze my Dome.
51:32
I feel like my brain's coming out of my ears.
51:34
It's just like, look at this. It was.
51:35
Everybody's look, look, nobody's in the middle.
51:37
That whole this, like that whole back is just people, I would
51:40
say. That's me, but I was not good,
51:42
so there's no way that was me. Look at.
51:45
This shit there was like an A group though.
51:46
It was like you'd have like the singles and then it would be
51:48
like all the all the like Club Blues guys basically would go
51:51
out there and like look really great.
51:53
Yeah, dude, I just wrote. This is sick.
51:58
Just always there's so many two 40s like 2.
52:01
Every single every single S 1413 had to have been in this.
52:04
All it was. Dude, there's a line, Yeah.
52:07
It was. It was.
52:08
The green 1 is. Sick like that is dead ass Nick.
52:11
We will never get this again which is it sucks but it was
52:15
cool to like be there bro. Yeah.
52:18
This green one's ripping. I need that.
52:20
And that was like a nice entry and it like looked cool.
52:23
What the hell is going on here, man?
52:31
Some people go out and not know like the line.
52:33
Yeah, usually it was like, it was like around that pole.
52:36
Yeah, like. He didn't really do it right.
52:37
Yeah, you do. Like go in.
52:38
Oh God. That's I mean, it's a nice hatch
52:44
dude, this is. That was back in the day when
52:46
like. I missed.
52:47
That there was a lot of cars on Craigslist.
52:49
I missed that era by just that much dude, and I would have
52:53
loved it too. Because like I would.
52:56
Have motivated me in ways. I remember when my S14 got
52:58
fucked, I was like all right, I got to get S13.
53:00
Like we'd go on Craigslist, we'd just pick like fucking 5 ads and
53:04
be like all right, we'll hit up all these guys and see see
53:06
what's up and you'd just go and drive to all.
53:07
Dude, I got tons of cars off Craigslist.
53:10
But now it's like, you know, you go on Craigslist, you're like,
53:13
OK, this one's fucked, fucked, fucked, fucked, fucked, fucked.
53:16
This might be OK, but I highly doubt it.
53:18
Fucked, fucked, fucked, fucked. You know what I mean?
53:19
Like you're you're going to find maybe 10 and then they're
53:21
overpriced. Yeah.
53:22
So it's like it that it's just way different.
53:26
But. Dude this is so sick I cannot
53:29
stop watching. I know like I want to.
53:30
I want to move the conversation but I'm like because.
53:32
Nowadays, because nowadays you can't help but go.
53:37
I can literally do that. I need to find out who is green
53:41
card that is. But now it's like.
53:43
I'm sure some like, I'll send this to a few friends, like I'm
53:46
like Danny or my buddy. Yeah.
53:47
Mark. Mark Mistowski.
53:50
Yeah, that need. A red.
53:52
OK, he's the one I'm thinking about. 14.
53:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that card.
53:56
They're not. It was like a it would it was
53:58
always just like stock looking ish and you had because then all
54:01
the other dudes down there were the what is it drift unhinged?
54:06
No, what am I thinking about? Am I fucking forgetting it was
54:11
like Kenny Turtle? OK, Kenny, I remember that name.
54:15
Oh, it's fucking. What's his face?
54:19
Don't. Don't look at me bro.
54:21
Drift. Something drift drift.
54:23
Why did you say it was like it starts with AUI want to say it's
54:27
something like that? I'm not sure, it might be
54:30
totally. But I'm totally wrong.
54:31
What I, what I was going to say is that like they're not doring
54:34
each other or anything like that, but something about
54:37
watching the video and just thinking about like how it's, it
54:40
was like a new thing. That shit gets me going.
54:43
I'm like, damn, that was probably so sick.
54:45
And it's I'm looking at the time stamps too.
54:47
And I'm like, if I was just a little more irresponsible when I
54:50
was in high school, I would have ended up over there.
54:52
Like I could have been over there if I was just like not
54:55
paying attention in school and like actually doing the things I
54:58
wanted to do, which was like go fuck off and jerk.
55:00
Paulo. Hello, Lynn.
55:02
Yeah. What?
55:03
What was his crew called? Drift.
55:04
Drift. Limit drift limit.
55:06
That was what you're talking. About because that's what I was
55:07
thinking about it was it was like Kenny and and turtle and
55:10
all of them. I want to say it's like.
55:12
Oh, I remember what you're talking about.
55:14
Yeah, I think it was unhinged it.
55:16
Was unhinged, right? Something like that, yeah.
55:17
Drift unhinged or. Something the answer it was
55:19
yeah, he had like, I think he's I think he's done with it like I
55:23
think he finished it, but he had like a like a Sylvia like like
55:27
it was in his garage. He's like, he couldn't like.
55:29
I think I remember. Yeah, he couldn't drive it or
55:31
something because it like wasn't, wasn't legal or
55:33
something like that. I don't remember.
55:34
I remember like a big project or something.
55:36
Yeah, I seen him like in the last five.
55:38
Years, he's still like he doesn't drift, but he does.
55:40
He still has a Sylvia. Yeah, Turtle sometimes shows up.
55:45
He's got like that red and white S14.
55:49
He'll just like, show up in an event randomly and you're like,
55:51
oh, turtle's here. Dude I remember like Bondish.
55:53
Turtle. We gotta find.
55:55
What is his name? Nelson.
55:56
Nelson Yeah, OK. I remember him.
55:58
Yeah. So I remember like when we would
56:00
sell shit and buy shit or whatever, every time I'd go to
56:02
New York and and buy something from these guys or or selling
56:05
something, I'd be like, yo, the struggle is fucking real, dude.
56:08
Like we grew, we grew up in the soccer.
56:10
Driving, that's yeah. Like he'll show up to events
56:13
like randomly at this point. Dude, they'd be working on their
56:15
cars like in the smallest crammed driveway on the side of
56:19
their house like. This is like, right by like,
56:22
what area? It's like Jamaica, basically,
56:23
yeah. So New York, Yeah.
56:25
Yeah, Queens, Yeah. Queens.
56:27
Yeah, we got people here who don't know where.
56:29
They would be like they just have like this like one car,
56:32
little ass like garage, like right off of like what park is
56:35
that? Forest Park.
56:36
And they'd be taking the whole thing apart, like making doing
56:40
full drift builds like. And they're sick, too.
56:42
The car. Pretty.
56:43
And you got to remember, too, a no Milwaukee impact at that
56:47
time, a no Milwaukee. We did have, we did have
56:50
impacts, but we had, I remember I had a snap on it, but a.
56:53
Plug in one. I didn't.
56:54
I didn't have any or like an. Air 1.
56:56
I had like a really shitty harbor freight one at one point.
56:59
The electric one up there is my first impact.
57:01
I had this bro really has it on. It's on a shelf 15 feet into in
57:08
the air. OK, so I went into.
57:10
AI went to the Snap On truck. I was like, yo, I got something
57:14
to trade you for this. He's like what I go, if I bring
57:16
him that gun, he's like, all right, dude, I'll give you like
57:19
whatever, like fucking 20 bucks and then I'm looking at it and
57:23
he's like, what's wrong? I'm like, I got sentimental
57:25
value with that gun. He's like, just take it back.
57:27
I'm going to throw it out anyway.
57:28
I was like, no, don't throw it out, no.
57:30
Shit, what is he? What is he going to do with?
57:32
Yeah. So he's like, just put it on a
57:33
shelf. I'm like, all right.
57:34
But dude, the Harbor Freight impact that I'm talking about, I
57:37
don't know if it's the same one that you're talking about, but
57:38
it would plug in the wall, right?
57:40
I thought this damn, I thought this thing was the problem
57:43
solver. Dude.
57:44
I would use it for every axle that I ever did and I had an
57:47
Integra. I went to a lot of axles like
57:50
that shit. I mean, it was the worst.
57:52
Terrible. It was like 300 foot pounds.
57:56
It plugged into the wall. You would get so hot.
57:59
Dude Oh my God I never used this thing.
58:01
I had like I had had the had a battery one of that and it was
58:04
just as terrible. It was like it was bad.
58:06
It didn't. It was I don't know why I bought
58:08
it. It was useless.
58:09
It was completely you'd have to still use a breaker bar and like
58:12
loosen everything. Anybody.
58:14
Yeah, cool, Cool, cool, cool. I don't even.
58:17
That would kind of help. But you know, Harbor Freight
58:19
back then was not what it used to be as well.
58:23
But you could get like, could you get like a DeWalt 1 back
58:25
then or no you like Milwaukee impact on I.
58:27
Just didn't like, I didn't want to spend the money on it.
58:30
OK. I think it was like very
58:31
expensive. Yeah, they were like super
58:32
expensive. I feel like the battery ones are
58:34
like really expensive. Now.
58:35
You can get them for like 150 bucks.
58:37
I was working on Nissan so I was like Yep, throw it on the, throw
58:39
it on the account. Dude, when?
58:42
When Chris plus his soul started doing school and all that shit
58:47
and like going to dealer or like working at the dealer and doing
58:50
this and doing that, then he started having power tools and
58:54
like whenever Chris would be around.
58:55
I'm not saying that this is just it's just a bonus because having
58:59
Chris around is a blessing, but the power more tools that Chris
59:03
would pull out of the back of the Sylvia.
59:05
Would just be so nice. He loves.
59:07
His Milwaukee, he has every single thing and it's always in
59:10
a nice bags, got to put him back in the bags and then it's always
59:15
charged and just like you know. Just yeah, I, I didn't, Chris.
59:20
Was that guy for us when we were kids?
59:21
Not kids, but. I never thought about like, I
59:25
mean, you just said you plugged an impact gun into the wall.
59:27
Like that's crazy. Like I, I didn't realize how
59:30
crazy tools were getting right then.
59:32
You know what? I mean, I, I remember like, I
59:34
think everyone had that, like they're like the drill that
59:36
their father had that was like, yes, it plugged into the wall.
59:39
The one with an actual. I have it still in my toolbox.
59:42
It has like 2 like really flimsy like prongs at the end of it and
59:46
it would just sound terrible, yeah.
59:48
Dude and then it would electrocute you if you know
59:50
sparks flying. There.
59:52
I don't know why I also have one of.
59:54
Those dude, everyone. Has that I'm going to take a
59:55
picture of it when I go home and send it to.
59:57
You I can't get rid of it, dude. I I don't want to get rid of.
59:59
It in one and The thing is. Is like mine too.
1:00:01
Oh wait no, mine's in Milwaukee. Crazy.
1:00:03
Damn. That.
1:00:04
Mine is a Craftsman 1 and you got to.
1:00:05
I'm telling you the only reason why I can't use it right now is
1:00:08
because I don't have the Chuck tool.
1:00:09
I could go get a tool for the Chuck.
1:00:11
Yeah, but like, but those are fucking good though.
1:00:13
Usually. But nowadays I.
1:00:15
Don't know bro, I don't think it wouldn't reverse.
1:00:17
It only went forward. You're probably right.
1:00:20
You probably press it and you're like, like fucking.
1:00:22
Shit. Oh yeah, that yeah, I remember
1:00:24
that shit had a lot of torque. But I don't know, dude, there's,
1:00:28
I have no idea how I was able to 2:40 with the things that I had.
1:00:33
OK. That's why.
1:00:34
Because you had 240. That's the only reason.
1:00:36
Was the things that I had. I'm like Ryobi saw.
1:00:40
OK this saw's all. I had cut so many things on my
1:00:44
S13. Shittiest saw I've ever had.
1:00:47
Ryobi's pretty bad. No, but it's this because you
1:00:50
know how Ryobi's green? I think their color is green.
1:00:52
Now. I'm not a Ryobi person.
1:00:54
Diego is pussy. That's weird.
1:00:58
I don't know anyone that's a real I know.
1:00:59
He's going to hear that they were like.
1:01:00
Dark. They were like a dark green at
1:01:02
1:00. Point It was like a dark The
1:01:03
thing the one that I have is. Blue.
1:01:05
Yeah, yes, yes, it was blue. And the logo's red.
1:01:08
Yeah, looks like looks like that one thing from Dragon Ball ZI
1:01:11
don't know if anybody's. Going to get that.
1:01:13
But blue and red. She was so crooked when I first
1:01:18
met Johnny he was cutting my pig nose bumper for the intercooler
1:01:21
because we did ASR swap and literally almost slices like
1:01:24
with it. I still have it.
1:01:25
It's probably the same blade too.
1:01:26
Yeah, like I almost drilled in my, I almost drilled in my leg
1:01:29
with that Milwaukee drill. But now we have, dude, that's
1:01:32
one thing that people got taken for.
1:01:34
Grant got our tape. Our tools for.
1:01:36
Granted, right now is tools. Literally this conversation just
1:01:38
reminded me about it because I was unaware because I was
1:01:40
working at Nissan and I was just getting into like tools and a
1:01:43
snap on truck would come and be like whoa, an impact gun.
1:01:45
This is crazy. It's just. $19 million, how much
1:01:48
is it do you remember? If I had to take a guess, it was
1:01:50
probably around the same price that it is right now, which is
1:01:53
still between 5:00 to $700.00. So.
1:01:57
But I was just like, this is crazy because usually you need
1:02:01
air. Yeah.
1:02:02
Yeah. So I'm like, wait, you.
1:02:03
I was like we could bring this to the track.
1:02:05
Like this is that thing was rated to like.
1:02:07
It was pretty good. It was it.
1:02:08
Was pretty good. That's a first rendition.
1:02:10
No, 100% it was, it was good. Like when we had that we were
1:02:13
like, OK, we're good. Like we can take wheels off and
1:02:15
shit, you know what I mean? Now you got a three eights
1:02:16
Milwaukee that could do yes, twice as.
1:02:18
Much. Yeah, yeah, that.
1:02:20
Oh, that thing's heavy as fuck. Yeah, for sure.
1:02:22
Sometimes. Sometimes I'll still have to
1:02:25
bust out the T bar because like. You just you just want to look
1:02:27
that. Way I would just like forget
1:02:30
that because that was my method of choice because I didn't.
1:02:33
Have that was never AT Bar Guy. Dude, what were you using the
1:02:36
Milwaukee right? Now a breaker bar breaker bar
1:02:39
breaker. Bar had one.
1:02:40
And then literally a ratchet on a fucking yeah.
1:02:42
The T bar probably wasn't even sick.
1:02:44
That here's probably the reason why The T bar probably wasn't
1:02:47
even mine. I wasn't buying my own tools.
1:02:48
Like I didn't buy one of. Those I was just like what did
1:02:51
my dad have in the basement? I got to go grab this shit yes T
1:02:53
bar going like this and just just hit in the illest like.
1:02:58
I just put the. Jack handle on the end of the T
1:03:00
bar. Oh, unstoppable.
1:03:02
I fucking lost so many of my dad's tools and I feel so bad
1:03:04
about it, like I don't know where they are.
1:03:06
Oh, dude, yeah, no, they're all fucked up.
1:03:08
They're all gone. All the Allen keys, bro.
1:03:11
Yeah, they're. Just in a drawer, they're just.
1:03:13
Throwing it's it's the little drawer in this in the, the the
1:03:16
like two level. Sometimes I just buy him tools.
1:03:19
When I see something that I think he'll like, I'm like, let
1:03:21
me just, I just feel bad. If my dad still works on cars, I
1:03:24
would. I would do that too.
1:03:25
Yeah, but you don't. Yeah, mine doesn't either, but
1:03:27
I'm just like here. Why don't you buy more like
1:03:30
useful things like sunglass? Bro, your dad would love a pair
1:03:32
of sunglasses. What did I get him last night
1:03:34
from the snap on truck mount? Something a.
1:03:37
Screwdriver set or something? No.
1:03:39
And then then I get him. I almost got him the pizza
1:03:41
roller. It was like a snap on pizza
1:03:43
roller. I was like he'll actually use
1:03:45
this tool. That's what I'm saying, dude.
1:03:46
I look at your dad. You know what?
1:03:47
I would buy your dad as a gift. I would buy him the sunglasses
1:03:51
where you don't have to. They're the best sunglasses that
1:03:56
would provide you the best vision.
1:03:57
Yeah, he would want that. Yeah, and the thingy for the
1:04:00
back. My dad used to have the
1:04:01
sunglasses where it had the little Shields on the side
1:04:03
those. Were safety glasses.
1:04:05
No, no, they were fly fishing shit.
1:04:07
What? Was that Was that glasses
1:04:09
company that popular? Davidson No.
1:04:12
I don't know shit about glasses so.
1:04:14
Do I but I they're like they're like almost like safety looking
1:04:18
glasses, but they're glasses and the sides have this like leather
1:04:22
like. It was like that leather,
1:04:23
leather. Shield on the.
1:04:24
Side it looked crazy. I need these.
1:04:26
It didn't. Look crazy.
1:04:27
Honestly, it looked kind of normal to me because I guess I
1:04:29
saw them all the time, but they weren't like big.
1:04:31
They were they were kind of normal.
1:04:33
They just had this like shield so that when you looked in
1:04:35
binoculars and shit it would be everything would be shaded.
1:04:39
OK, I was about to say what was the purpose, but so now that
1:04:42
that's answered. But he was a boat.
1:04:44
Guy there is, aside from wind debris, all that shit.
1:04:47
People who were chopping would wear them shits all the time.
1:04:49
That makes sense, but. The glasses, back then, you
1:04:52
mentioned that they were smaller.
1:04:53
You didn't have to say that they were smaller.
1:04:55
Do you remember every time we go to a museum, the sunglasses that
1:04:58
they got in there or the glasses that the bifocal lenses, they're
1:05:02
just small. They're just tiny.
1:05:04
This shit. Yeah.
1:05:04
No one thought to make like oh shit maybe if I make them
1:05:07
bigger. I can look around.
1:05:09
I can like, look like this, like whoa.
1:05:11
It's kind of weird, I never thought.
1:05:12
About you ever think about? The older you go, the creepier
1:05:14
and smaller they get. I don't.
1:05:17
Like my glass, Like I wear contacts with my glasses when I
1:05:20
do wear them, like I've I got like not obscenely big, but
1:05:23
they're big cuz I don't like, I don't want to have to like look
1:05:25
around to see. Yeah, like, hold on, let me.
1:05:27
Yeah. Dude I didn't I didn't like
1:05:29
seeing the the frame so like. For a little bit, dude, I
1:05:32
probably. Looked like such a pussy dude
1:05:34
that had like the frameless ones that were like kind of just like
1:05:37
an Oval. I would love to see that little.
1:05:39
Fruitcake looking kid dude like but they they and they were and
1:05:43
they were the ones that turned in sunglasses bro like.
1:05:46
You just go like. I was about to do bad stuff in
1:05:49
that school. Or they flip they no, they would
1:05:50
like they would, they would like, you know, go light to dark
1:05:53
or whatever. I didn't.
1:05:54
I didn't have the thing, the transition.
1:05:56
He goes out. He goes outside.
1:05:57
Hold up, hold up. I gotta I gotta transition.
1:06:00
OK, We're. Good sometimes when I come in
1:06:02
from reset. Recess.
1:06:04
Recess. Whoa.
1:06:06
What the fuck? Whoa, that was weird.
1:06:08
You had a. Break midday to fuck around.
1:06:11
What? Sometimes I come in from recess.
1:06:14
You like, put the sunglasses in the pocket so then you don't
1:06:16
look like a weirdo, so you turn. Back to normal.
1:06:18
Oh OK, so you just be. You'd have the fucking shades
1:06:22
on. Yeah, guys.
1:06:23
All right, tell us some shit you've been doing, because
1:06:25
you've been doing a lot of shit. I don't.
1:06:26
I don't know, you said. Those are some people.
1:06:27
Those are just your. Friends a lot of like besides
1:06:29
like Phoenix industries that they do like like and fittings
1:06:32
and stuff like all of those people and they're like they're
1:06:35
like all friends. They have Condor and.
1:06:38
But you're but but you're involved with Phoenix like stuff
1:06:41
the AN stuff. Yeah, I, I, I like, so I got
1:06:45
like, I guess like a partial sponsorship for them like a few
1:06:47
years ago. They're really cool over there.
1:06:48
Like they're really nice guys. And then like I created like a,
1:06:52
a business like to like purchase and sell and stuff like that.
1:06:55
OK. I kind of like, I kind of fell
1:06:57
off with doing since I started my own business, I kind of
1:07:00
haven't been doing AN fitting stuff.
1:07:02
Yeah, plus there's so many, there's so many AN fitting
1:07:04
companies now. It's like there are, it's
1:07:06
there's a lot. Yeah.
1:07:08
But they're good. They're just good people.
1:07:09
I just like them. And I was like really nice and.
1:07:12
What are you doing with your own business?
1:07:13
Yeah, what you have your own business is that.
1:07:15
Leo Grandy Racing So I like, was it 2020?
1:07:21
So right when COVID hit I was like.
1:07:23
Right before or right after? Yeah.
1:07:24
Right. Literally, like it was like the
1:07:26
start of 2020. It was like, oh, I'm going to
1:07:28
start my own business. Damn.
1:07:30
And three months in, yeah. Yeah, OK.
1:07:33
That doesn't make me feel so bad.
1:07:34
I might get some dirt in my paint right now.
1:07:36
That's that's OK. So yeah, we, I was like, I just
1:07:40
being a friend of mine who he has nothing to do with cars.
1:07:43
He's like a motorcycle guy, but he is like a good like
1:07:47
fabricator and like he knows like I, I could do stuff like in
1:07:52
like Fusion and SolidWorks, but I'm not like, like I can make
1:07:56
like, I could like have an idea and like, hey, I want to make
1:07:58
this. And he'll be like, oh, we could.
1:08:00
He'll make it into like a thing. Yeah.
1:08:02
So I was the one thing on E 30s that always break are like the
1:08:06
door interior door handles. I was like, let's make some door
1:08:10
handles. And then we made it.
1:08:12
And there was like some people were like, oh, it's too
1:08:14
expensive. No one's gonna buy it.
1:08:16
And I'm like, yeah. Drifters, of course.
1:08:18
And then I literally sold like 200 sets of door handles.
1:08:23
That's. Crazy.
1:08:24
What the? Fuck, I was like OK and.
1:08:27
Anytime I see E30 now I'm going to like look right at the door
1:08:29
handle. And not to mention bro COVID was
1:08:33
good for that shit like this. It was because like, so in the
1:08:36
start of COVID, when everyone, like is everyone wasn't really
1:08:40
going to work, but they were still getting paid and the
1:08:42
government was giving away money.
1:08:43
They just want to buy everything.
1:08:44
And they were just, they were sitting at home doing nothing
1:08:46
all day. So everyone was like, oh, let's
1:08:47
work on the car. And so it actually was good.
1:08:51
I mean, it's still not, it's not bad, it's still good.
1:08:53
But it was like the like one of the best was like 2020 was like
1:08:55
the best year. So I started with that and then
1:08:59
just kind of I branched into a few other E30 things, dual
1:09:02
caliper brackets, E34 stuff, just nothing like major.
1:09:07
And then it's like, to be honest, I don't, I don't like
1:09:10
doesn't really make like money. Like it makes money, but like.
1:09:14
Like making the actual parts. I feel like they never will
1:09:18
really unless you it. I don't it it it more than pays
1:09:22
for itself, which is nice, but at the same time it's like I
1:09:25
would like to. I don't think I want to do it
1:09:27
like permanently, but it'd be nice to like not have to work a
1:09:30
nine to five and just like be able to just do car shit.
1:09:34
So I did that like the door handles.
1:09:36
Honestly, that was like the the start and I didn't branch off
1:09:41
too much after that. Like we did interior door
1:09:43
handles, exterior door handles, some dual caliper bracket stuff.
1:09:47
I did some like clutch pivot pins like just like I was like
1:09:51
there's a lot in the E30 like market that's already been done
1:09:55
like bushings, mounts. Well, you mentioned Condor,
1:09:59
isn't that like a bushing? Yeah, a Condor.
1:10:01
Speech I'm not a I'm not a BMW person.
1:10:04
Yeah, they but I've been slowly liking them because of my dumb
1:10:06
ass friends. That's it.
1:10:08
Malcolm, I sent you the Instagram if you want to try to
1:10:10
bring it up. It's like his his shop really.
1:10:15
Please, because I want you. To see these like it's literally
1:10:17
just, it's like 90% of pictures are just door handles.
1:10:20
Yeah, but they're, but they're fucking nice looking.
1:10:21
Are they like metal? Yeah, they're pretty cool.
1:10:24
Oh yeah, I would love that. So that like that was our like
1:10:27
first iteration of them and then we did like that's on my car,
1:10:33
did some like black ones and stuff like that.
1:10:35
Actually Kevin Kielbasa, he has a set of the black door handles
1:10:40
it it made his I. Fucking like those.
1:10:42
It made his car faster. He actually got better when he
1:10:44
installed these. Just letting.
1:10:45
Him know? Oh, I would believe.
1:10:46
I would believe that. So mostly door handles is mostly
1:10:50
like the thing. Yeah, like that.
1:10:51
And I was like wait like distributed delete plates and
1:10:53
like. Wait, this car is yours this
1:10:55
red? The red car is a friend of mine,
1:10:58
Marissa. I've I've met this person
1:11:01
before. She was here for the open house
1:11:04
and there's another matching car.
1:11:07
Not a matching car. There's, there's actually it's
1:11:09
like I would say three of them. That's it's her car.
1:11:12
Then her husband has Garrett. He has a white.
1:11:15
I don't think he did he drive it that day.
1:11:17
No, he didn't, but I've seen the car.
1:11:18
Before a Whitey 30 with like a blue houndstooth interior.
1:11:22
With with something of the same sort.
1:11:24
They got the toy car for it and like everything, they're very
1:11:27
detailed oriented car, like the luggages.
1:11:29
Yeah, like that shit is so. Cool.
1:11:31
So I've like a lot of like stuff that I make.
1:11:35
I'm like, oh, let's put it on Marissa's car and you know, cuz
1:11:37
her car looks nice. Right, right.
1:11:39
Right now that car is actually with Matt Hayes.
1:11:43
Oh really? We're doing, we're doing, I say
1:11:46
wear, but I'm kind of just like helping in the sidelines doing
1:11:48
an 8HP swap on that car, which 8 HP is like the, it's like a
1:11:52
newer 6 BMW. Trans That's like DC, not.
1:11:56
It's like DCT kind of DCT, but not yeah and like I just like, I
1:12:01
guess I just made little shit like I got we like wanted to do
1:12:04
like desk organizer, so I just made it.
1:12:06
That's cool. A billet fucking desk organizer.
1:12:09
You know, like for like your posted notes and that's cool.
1:12:13
What the fuck? Dude, it was it weighs like I
1:12:15
think it weighs like 8 lbs. Yeah, it's fine.
1:12:17
It's. Which is actually kind of nice
1:12:18
because it won't move. Yeah, now it won't move in the
1:12:20
drawer. That's all I could.
1:12:21
Think I have I have extras. I'll see if I could send me your
1:12:23
logo. Dude, you gotta make a you gotta
1:12:24
make a 181 and put the rear tail lights.
1:12:27
On this is not a 180 guy you cannot bad idea yeah, that would
1:12:30
honestly sell a lot, but OK. And the skyline.
1:12:33
Yeah, but like the fact that it's AE 30, I feel like haters
1:12:37
to that. Yeah, Yeah, you know what I'm
1:12:39
saying? Like there's this YouTube,
1:12:41
there's this niche of YouTube where I could see this product
1:12:44
literally being. You know those BMW guys and.
1:12:47
Yeah, dude, look at my fucking hands, bro.
1:12:49
You think you think these are BMW hands?
1:12:52
That's crazy. These are gulag hands bro, I was
1:12:55
playing in the mud. Wait, so you guys make all this
1:12:58
shit? Yeah too?
1:12:59
Like in house? In house.
1:13:00
What the fuck? In how long have you been in
1:13:03
business? Since 2020.
1:13:05
Or well, sorry, yeah, but like prior to that, like, were you
1:13:08
working on this shit? Prior to this, I would There's
1:13:10
nothing that like, I had ideas, but there's nothing that I
1:13:13
actually made, you know? Can we do a shop tour video on
1:13:18
this? I, I, there's the shop is, is.
1:13:20
Like too small a new. One like so the shop where we do
1:13:23
like the CNC is like there's nothing there that's
1:13:26
interesting. My personal shop you're like we
1:13:28
could I'll let you know when I'm putting in my engine.
1:13:30
You're more than welcome to come by.
1:13:31
I think it's like we're going to do like a little kind of like
1:13:34
hang out, put my engine back in my.
1:13:35
Where is that? Where are you?
1:13:37
All right, we'll talk. Is this also all in?
1:13:38
There. Yeah, it's in Brooklyn.
1:13:40
If you, if you go to my personal page, I think there's a picture
1:13:43
of the shop on there, some of this like the thermostat
1:13:46
housing, like, yeah, what is that?
1:13:48
So the E30 has this stupid complex thermostat housing.
1:13:52
It is like so on the head outlet, there's three ports.
1:13:55
There's the one that goes to the engine, the one that goes to the
1:13:58
radiator. And then there's like, what is
1:14:01
it? And there's, it's a complicated
1:14:04
fucking thing. Sounds tough.
1:14:06
I was like most of the stuff I was like, I need it for my car,
1:14:09
so I'm going to make it. It's not like I think I've, I
1:14:12
did not make any money on these. I lost money but I was like I
1:14:14
need this so I'm going to make it for myself and if anyone else
1:14:17
needs it, great. Are these engines?
1:14:19
But the people use these engines a lot, right?
1:14:21
They. Do but they?
1:14:22
What is an M? 20 So an M20 is the engine that
1:14:25
came in the E 30s. OK.
1:14:28
The problem is they use them, but they don't go like there's
1:14:31
like very few that go to like that level, OK.
1:14:35
And then most of the time if they're gonna do that, they're
1:14:37
just gonna put like a 24 valve, like a S50S52M50 and 52
1:14:41
something like that. Because it's just, I don't blame
1:14:42
them. It's easier.
1:14:43
You could just throw it. They're like 5-6 hundred bucks
1:14:46
and a turbo and you're making 400 horsepower.
1:14:48
Now have you? Have you maybe like contacted, I
1:14:52
don't know the German fucking retail shops like and giving
1:14:56
them idea to sell these or? Something yes and no.
1:14:58
No one else. Did it?
1:15:01
No, like no one like the the like.
1:15:04
So what happened was I needed to I needed this for myself.
1:15:06
So he took like a stock thermoset housing and like
1:15:09
chopped it up and welded it with AN fittings and it looked
1:15:11
terrible and I'm like, I don't want to put this on my car.
1:15:15
So I was like, I just needed like the problem is I was like,
1:15:17
I don't need a thermostat in my car because we're doing like an
1:15:19
electric water pump. I'm like electric fans.
1:15:21
Either of those could could do the the duty of a thermostat.
1:15:24
It's just like I want to maintain temperature.
1:15:27
I don't need it like a thermostat to do that.
1:15:29
I just need a clean outlet instead of this complicated
1:15:32
like. I see.
1:15:33
OK. So that's where that came out.
1:15:36
Yeah. So it is pretty specific.
1:15:38
Yeah, there's you're getting rid of the thermostat.
1:15:40
Yeah, like I've sold a few of them and Stim Tech who's
1:15:44
they're, they're so Joe over at Stim Tech in Canada, like my
1:15:49
build is like it's cool, like what they do out there and his
1:15:53
machine work and it it is incredible.
1:15:55
So he like did like a, a, a water pump, like outlet or water
1:16:02
pump inlet because I wanted to get rid of like again, I chopped
1:16:06
the water pump up to put an and fitting on it.
1:16:07
It looks terrible. And he's like, oh, I'm going to
1:16:09
do 1 for my car. And so he did.
1:16:10
He did that and same thing like him, like a lot of the stuff
1:16:13
that he does is like it's like the car stuff specifically, he
1:16:18
does it because he loves it. He like there's there's very
1:16:21
little money that's made on the automotive side of of a, of a
1:16:24
machining business, unless you're like, who is it like PRP
1:16:28
where they just do like freaking everything and they do it
1:16:31
amazingly well. But a lot of like in the CNC
1:16:34
world that in the machine world is just like you do the stuff
1:16:37
you want to do, but then like the stuff that makes money is
1:16:39
like businesses that need parts made for their from them.
1:16:44
So. Yeah, like if if you did that
1:16:46
and had a thermostat still in it, I bet that one would be
1:16:48
like, if you needed to do that for some reason, right.
1:16:50
You know, then I bet that one would sell better.
1:16:52
Yeah. Once you get into a little,
1:16:54
like, intricate things like, oh, you, you know, I'm just leaving
1:16:56
the thermostat. It's like, OK, well, how many
1:16:57
people need that for this Exactly.
1:16:59
Yeah. But it's nice.
1:17:01
Thank you. Like that shit looks great.
1:17:03
It looks great. It just I knew it was I was
1:17:05
like, it does not going to I'm not going to make money on this
1:17:07
thing. I think I still have a a pile of
1:17:09
them sitting in the drawer somewhere.
1:17:11
I actually. Can't believe you have this, all
1:17:12
this equipment to do this. I I'm just looking at this and
1:17:15
like this. The photos themselves.
1:17:19
Yeah dude. Cuz the way you would do one
1:17:21
thing is the way you do all of them, dude.
1:17:24
So I would buy this if I I don't know what the fuck this is like
1:17:29
I'm I'm buying it. I'm buying it right now.
1:17:31
So like, you know, you actually, you might know Chris, Chris like
1:17:34
he's like a photographer. He does.
1:17:35
Oh yeah. So he we would like, well, he
1:17:39
was, he kind of, I guess I don't want to say started, but he like
1:17:41
I met him at Pocono and we would, he would like rent the
1:17:47
room from us because we would do like a one bedroom and he'd like
1:17:49
lay on sleep on the couch. So it would like worked out for
1:17:52
both of us. And like these pictures were
1:17:53
taken like in a hotel room. No way.
1:17:57
Like Chris literally just, he set up a little like like a
1:18:00
blanket on like a light and yeah.
1:18:03
I see the blanket. I see the little.
1:18:04
He set up a blanket on like on like a night stand and took
1:18:07
these photos from me. Damn dude, we need him here.
1:18:11
I know I'm trying to like, I'm trying to think like, how do I,
1:18:13
how do I market my stuff? Oh, I'm just walking around and
1:18:16
going like this. Like, like, but that's just.
1:18:21
Well, painting cars is. Different.
1:18:22
That's me, but like. Product shots, though, is like,
1:18:24
really? Dude that I'm telling you.
1:18:26
No idea what that is, but I would buy it.
1:18:28
Yeah, no, definitely good on that.
1:18:30
What? What else you got, Malcolm?
1:18:31
Come on, come back. Come to see we go because I saw
1:18:35
you got these covers. So yeah, like this like that's
1:18:37
STEM tech. Like I, I also sell like, oh,
1:18:39
OK, start selling STEM tech stuff like the, the, the
1:18:42
distributed delete covers. That's we did that.
1:18:45
OK. I'm assuming a lot of people
1:18:47
delete the distributor on these. Yeah cuz they'll do like wasted
1:18:49
spark or Clover plug dogs. That's STEM techs rear
1:18:55
reinforcements. Of typical BMW stuff, Yep.
1:18:58
I did those. I was like, I need again.
1:19:00
I was like, I need angled like tie downs so I'm just going to
1:19:04
do a run of them, why not? Where are these?
1:19:06
Where are these mounted? They mount to the bottom of the,
1:19:09
So on the rear of the E30, there's the shock mount.
1:19:11
They mount to the. Yeah, there you go.
1:19:12
OK, Yeah. Oh yeah.
1:19:14
Yeah, that's a good idea. What the heck is that?
1:19:16
Just drop the car down. Just drop the car down.
1:19:18
Yeah. Dude that's sick as fucks.
1:19:23
There you go. So the problem, the problem was
1:19:25
like all the ones on the market were like thin or they weren't
1:19:30
angled and like on I granted you want a straight strap most of
1:19:34
the time, but when I borrow my buddies trailer, I there's not
1:19:37
enough room to run the strap straight so I have to cross it.
1:19:39
And every time I would crank down on the ones that I had
1:19:41
there it would just they were just bent.
1:19:44
I'm like I need I need ones that are pre bent.
1:19:46
Sounds like no one makes it. Fuck it.
1:19:48
And it's something you can just leave on there too, so.
1:19:50
It's not a big thing. All I'm thinking about is that
1:19:51
the car would look so nice because now the straps are all
1:19:55
like, really hidden. Yeah, that thing probably looks
1:19:57
like it's got no straps on it when it's on the trailer.
1:19:59
Yep, no, this is all nice. Stuff that's that's a nice
1:20:02
product. Oh my gosh.
1:20:03
Obviously the door handles are your bread and butter with this
1:20:06
company. I mean that those things look
1:20:07
great. Thank you.
1:20:09
They it was again, like the external ones were just like a
1:20:12
they, they weren't needed, but it was like, I don't want to run
1:20:15
the other option, which don't get me wrong, I love Condor and
1:20:18
what they sell, they like sell like the ones that just have
1:20:20
like the speed holes in it. And I was like, yeah, I don't
1:20:23
like, I had them on my car and they're cool, but I'm like, I
1:20:25
want something a little bit different.
1:20:27
And you could always go back and make another one too if you
1:20:29
wanted to. I like we did.
1:20:31
I just did a run of them and. What was it like starting out
1:20:34
with this like business? Because that's such a niche.
1:20:38
They you were just like, all right, fuck it.
1:20:40
It was a lot like initially and like I tell this to other people
1:20:45
who just start like there are there were so many.
1:20:49
I posted it on the Rev Limited, which is like the E So Rev
1:20:53
limited forum is like the equivalent of like your guys.
1:20:56
Was it Sylvia? Yeah, that's limited.
1:20:58
Yeah, that's the equivalent. So there's a Facebook page and I
1:21:01
posted it on there and then there was like a lot of interest
1:21:04
there. Some people that were like the
1:21:06
plastic ones are fine. I'm like, okay, well I've gone
1:21:08
through like 10 of them and I'm tired of changing them.
1:21:11
And then I posted them for sale and there was a lot of people
1:21:14
that were like not a lot. There were some people that
1:21:16
like, this is too expensive and there were guys that like, you
1:21:19
know, fuck it, let me, let me buy it.
1:21:21
And then there was so many like, cuz you're gonna get so many
1:21:24
people that are like, oh, this is too much.
1:21:25
You're never gonna sell them, blah, blah, blah.
1:21:27
Yeah. But like, you just gotta ignore
1:21:28
those. People, yeah, you just, and I
1:21:29
tell this, I actually said this to a buddy of mine who does
1:21:32
transmissions that like, just just don't worry, just ignore
1:21:34
them because they're they're if if it if the market, like the
1:21:38
market is what sets the price. Yeah, like not the people, the
1:21:40
people that are complaining about the price, we're never
1:21:42
gonna buy it anyway. It doesn't matter.
1:21:43
And I, I already, I know you so like you're not gonna be, you
1:21:46
know, you're not going to be overcharging.
1:21:49
You know what? I.
1:21:50
Mean yeah, it's literally like what was going on?
1:21:54
Myself message from Princess come up and I'm like, are we
1:21:56
locked in here? Like what are we doing?
1:21:59
She's so yeah. I'm like, I'm listen, it does.
1:22:02
It helps pay for like a bit of my stuff.
1:22:05
But most of we had this conversation last time I was
1:22:08
here. Like the business is still in
1:22:10
the hole, but I do this because I love it and it went from
1:22:14
granted like they were. I think when I first started, I
1:22:16
started selling them at like 195 for a pair.
1:22:19
I think now I'm at 295 a pair, which it definitely that helps,
1:22:24
but it's not like I'm not a millionaire.
1:22:28
I wish I was, but we did. I'm not either, just let you
1:22:31
know so. Judging by how many over
1:22:34
offended guys, he's lying. There's so many.
1:22:37
Or like a million? Dollars worth of origin.
1:22:39
I just wanted you to know that like just to make you feel like,
1:22:43
you know, you're not alone in this because we're in the hole
1:22:45
too right now. Like it's, it never ends.
1:22:48
It's just, you know, getting to a point where you can do what
1:22:51
you want to do and live. That's the goal.
1:22:53
Right. So I know get to get to there,
1:22:56
it's just it's a struggle to get to there.
1:22:58
Well, I mean, I don't know if that's your main goal right now,
1:23:00
but I think you're on your way. I mean, this stuff looks
1:23:02
awesome. So dude, this stuff looks
1:23:03
fucking crazy now I feel like a bomba clad bro.
1:23:07
My business is gonna not do this.
1:23:09
Whatever, dude. This is not.
1:23:11
And what's that we were we talking about the middle one?
1:23:13
That's what you're talking about with that.
1:23:15
That's just a that's a STEM tech mount.
1:23:17
Yeah, it's STEM tech and. Then what's that?
1:23:19
Go back, knock that one on the bottom right.
1:23:21
It's just a it's just a oil sensor delete cap.
1:23:25
It was again one of those things like the the stock one went NLI.
1:23:29
Don't know if you guys use the term NLA in the NLA.
1:23:31
No longer available. Yeah, OK.
1:23:34
That's like a big, like, BMW thing, like, yeah, yeah.
1:23:37
German. Thing.
1:23:37
Thank you. I'm going to use that now when
1:23:39
I'm talking to my friends who have BMW, Yeah.
1:23:41
So they're going to go what? The fuck the the the original
1:23:44
cap was NLA and no one made a another one.
1:23:47
So I was like, oh, let's make a cap.
1:23:49
And again, it's like one of those things, the stock, like
1:23:51
the guys who have the stock E 30s, they don't, they're not
1:23:54
going to remove their oil level sensor, but the oil level sensor
1:23:57
is connected to like a specific check panel in the stock car.
1:24:00
So once you start like like once you have like a caged like race
1:24:04
car, you're not going to have that panel anymore and you're
1:24:06
just going to have this oil sensor just sitting in your oil
1:24:09
pan for no reason. What's the process like?
1:24:11
Like the turn around like you've mentioned a lot of OK, I needed
1:24:16
it real quick. What?
1:24:19
What's real quick? It was, it was like.
1:24:22
You. Can't just be like, yeah, I'll
1:24:23
just go in the garage real quick.
1:24:25
There are there are some things where it is like that where it's
1:24:28
like I need something like the next few days I would just do
1:24:32
like one of those things. OK.
1:24:34
Most of the time it was like a few week or even like a couple
1:24:38
month process. Two production.
1:24:39
Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, two production.
1:24:41
Still like short? It was like, like, figure out
1:24:45
what I need, print it, test it, make sure like it physically
1:24:51
fits like I, I, I don't think I have a picture here, but like
1:24:54
this thermostat housing, it would, that was like 12
1:24:56
iterations into making this thing because every time we
1:24:58
would do it, it would be like, oh, that, that doesn't, that
1:25:01
hits there. Oh, that hits there.
1:25:02
That's not going to work there. Now it's going to, OK, it works,
1:25:04
but now it's too hard to machine.
1:25:06
So it was like, there's a lot of iterations for stuff like that.
1:25:09
And there is some things where like the the little, so the
1:25:12
little stainless pivot again one of those things the stock E30
1:25:18
pivot pin is plastic. And is this for the clutch just?
1:25:21
For the clutch, so it's like on the other side of the clutch
1:25:23
fork, That's what the clutch fork pivots on.
1:25:25
And for don't get me wrong, for like 90% of people, it's like
1:25:30
the stock, I don't know what they make this plastic out of.
1:25:32
It will last the for like, like you'll have a car from like the
1:25:36
80s that still has the stock plastic pin in there.
1:25:39
It's worn to shit at this point, but it was like, it's still
1:25:42
working. Yeah, but no one made a
1:25:45
stainless one. They made a stain like BMW did
1:25:47
make a stainless with the one on the left, which is like the E36
1:25:50
style. They did make that one for like
1:25:52
the eight series, but they never made a stainless one for the
1:25:55
E30. And I'm like, I need I have a
1:25:56
heavy clutch. I need like, you need the the
1:25:59
the stainless pin. The only other option was like a
1:26:01
brass, which they wear down super quick.
1:26:04
So I was like all right, well how could we like do this but
1:26:07
also make it better, which is well I want to have it like I
1:26:11
can now grease it externally like I was.
1:26:13
Going to say there's a zerk fitting.
1:26:14
There's a zerk fitting at the back of it and a small little
1:26:17
like I figure what size drill, but like a small little hole
1:26:22
hole that runs through it to the zerk.
1:26:24
So you could like grease it from outside of the car.
1:26:27
You could literally just go in there, hook it up to the back.
1:26:29
It's like right at the back on the bell housing of the trans.
1:26:31
Dude, my buddy Diego has AE30. He needs this product.
1:26:34
I, I'm going to call him after this and tell him, yo, you need
1:26:37
this product that we talked about on the podcast I have.
1:26:40
To I have to make more, I'm out. I'm actually, I think I'm out of
1:26:42
both of them and it's one of those things like I want to make
1:26:44
more, but right now, like the business, I don't have the money
1:26:47
in the business to like start another production run to like
1:26:50
but people, and I'm sure like what happens with your overfind
1:26:54
their like library you have back there.
1:26:56
You buy all this stuff, but you don't like like you're not going
1:27:00
to see any of that money back for like another six months or
1:27:03
even a year sometimes like sound about right.
1:27:05
You know, it's, it's, I don't want to like I need to make
1:27:08
more, but it's like, I don't want to put money in and then
1:27:10
wait to get that back. Cuz then, and also when you get
1:27:13
it back, it's like you've gotten it back so little, so little and
1:27:16
so slow. Like you don't even feel like
1:27:18
you've gotten any money. Back.
1:27:19
It's a slow burn. Yeah, fuck that.
1:27:21
Yeah, yeah. So are you putting this only on
1:27:23
your website or do you have it on eBay?
1:27:25
Cuz I think this shit on eBay would do.
1:27:27
Good, it's just on the website. Shoot this on eBay you should
1:27:31
think about. That I'll check it out.
1:27:32
A lot of a lot of it is like like within the within the E30,
1:27:38
like Rev limited Facebook, like all these 30 Facebook pages.
1:27:42
Like when you said you wanted me on here, I was like, no one
1:27:44
fucking knows me unless they're into BMWs.
1:27:45
I don't know what you're wasting.
1:27:46
A lot of people, a lot of people listen to this podcast that are
1:27:49
just you'd be surprised, Like they, they're like, yo.
1:27:52
We just have whoever though on here, it doesn't really matter.
1:27:54
Like I was down to have a conversation.
1:27:56
None. Like I guarantee BMW people
1:27:58
listen to us too. That too, but like, nonetheless,
1:28:00
we would have had a conversation.
1:28:02
It would have been fun. And Oh yeah, we would have had
1:28:03
you on, dude. That conversation we had about
1:28:04
Flushing Meadows, bro, that shit was fucking sick.
1:28:06
Yeah, I'm still on that, but like this looks insane.
1:28:10
Thank you. The level of quality, like the
1:28:12
build quality, just I feel it through the photo.
1:28:16
So like. I feel it.
1:28:19
I feel like like telling you to put this on eBay.
1:28:21
I feel like someone's probably telling me to put my shit on
1:28:23
eBay but. Is your shit not on eBay?
1:28:24
No, you should definitely put it on eBay.
1:28:26
How are you about to tell Frank to put it on eBay When Frankie
1:28:28
got. It on eBay you know what I mean
1:28:30
like there's there's only so many people in those groups yeah
1:28:32
you know what I mean so I feel like I don't know I feel like
1:28:35
you might find a whole nother market on on eBay or.
1:28:38
EBay has been a reliable source for me lately.
1:28:41
Yeah, because like, I don't want to go, dude, I think I'm
1:28:46
definitely getting kind of old because.
1:28:48
Like dude, you've been on this shit for like on Facebook
1:28:50
Marketplace. Thing you've.
1:28:51
Been like on Facebook marketplace thing.
1:28:53
Bro do I want to go meet up with this guy to get this fucking why
1:28:57
do I want to? Go do that.
1:28:58
I think you're just. Finally tired of the book?
1:29:00
Save up a couple more dollars and then buy a new one, yes.
1:29:04
I think you're just over the bullshit.
1:29:06
And then so then, but now it's like when I need something
1:29:09
specific, I go right to eBay, like that spindle that I had
1:29:13
right to eBay. Somebody who needs a thermostat
1:29:16
housing is going to go right to eBay or you're.
1:29:19
Doing exactly. What I would do if I needed used
1:29:21
parts for my car, I go right on eBay now.
1:29:23
I don't even fuck around. I'm like, oh, I need a used
1:29:25
part. I'm not going on fucking
1:29:26
Facebook. Dude, I was about to go to a
1:29:28
junkyard with tits. I mean, that's different.
1:29:30
I mean, that's fine. We.
1:29:31
We I was like fucking yeah, quit my job, fucking just started
1:29:35
this steering the spindle just snaps, ball joints snaps.
1:29:39
Fucking no money fuck like. EBay.
1:29:45
It's it's easy. It's just easy.
1:29:46
You're going to pay more money, but it's easy.
1:29:47
That's what it is. eBay is like, so all the stuff that I want to
1:29:51
sell that I want to sell for a dumb price.
1:29:54
Like I I have like a bunch of used like I have a stupid
1:29:57
collection of used crap and like.
1:30:00
It's probably the most valuable stuff too.
1:30:02
Some of it is just calling. It crap.
1:30:04
Some of it is, but like I'll throw on eBay for like a dumb
1:30:07
price. Like no one's gonna like no one
1:30:10
on the Facebook pages or on Facebook would pay this price.
1:30:13
But somebody on eBay probably will.
1:30:15
And I might sit on it for like a year, but it will eventually
1:30:18
sell. And that's what that's what I
1:30:19
use eBay for. I use it for literally all the
1:30:21
stuff the. Weird, weird shit like the Chop
1:30:25
Bro. eBay. Yeah, a lot.
1:30:28
And you know where else? Amazon.
1:30:31
That's a little risky, but. But for like little shit, but
1:30:34
no, the the weird things that I buy all on eBay yeah 'cause like
1:30:37
somebody just has these fucking new old stock like there's.
1:30:40
People out there that take apart that motorcycle and just put
1:30:43
them all apart. I.
1:30:44
Mean yeah, but those people suck sometimes.
1:30:46
They fucking hike the price of 1 foot peg $30.00.
1:30:50
I could buy the whole motorcycle for 200.
1:30:53
But The thing is, it's convenient.
1:30:54
I don't. That's how it gets you.
1:30:59
That's what, yeah, that is why. Like if you if a customer brings
1:31:02
a car here and like they didn't plan out something, or let's
1:31:05
just say something broke and you can't get it new, I'm going
1:31:08
right on eBay. Yeah, I'm adding a percentage.
1:31:10
I'm going this is how much yes or no?
1:31:12
And they go, yes, OK, done. You know, I'm not we're not
1:31:15
going on Facebook. We're not searching for shit.
1:31:17
No, that's not happening. Because on eBay they have
1:31:20
there's buyers protection on eBay because this like for
1:31:24
example, that spindle that I bought if I didn't check eBay
1:31:28
first of all, do do check eBay after you buy something which
1:31:32
I'd have a bad habit of not doing.
1:31:34
And this person asked for my VIN to make sure that the product
1:31:36
that I bought I guess would work.
1:31:38
If I didn't answer, they probably wouldn't have shipped
1:31:40
it and I probably wouldn't have had the thing.
1:31:43
So do. That, and that's nice that they
1:31:44
would. Do very, very good because they
1:31:46
know that they can get fucked over super hard because of.
1:31:49
The buyer's protection. That actually, like I sold AI
1:31:53
had a film camera I sold on eBay for to be fair, was I don't know
1:31:58
why this person paid this much. It was like it was.
1:31:59
I listed it as broken, like I'm like it's broken.
1:32:03
It doesn't work. It listed it as parts and he
1:32:08
paid more than a working 1 was and then like he got it and was
1:32:12
like, Oh, it's broken. I'm like, yes, I told you it was
1:32:17
like he's like, Oh, but it has I forgot what he said like
1:32:19
something wasn't working correctly.
1:32:21
I was like, I don't know if anything in it is working
1:32:24
correctly. I I'm like I I sold it.
1:32:26
I was like the shutter fires and like the like that.
1:32:32
I think I wrote like the shutter fires and the light meter like
1:32:34
appears to work. I don't know if anything
1:32:36
actually works and like I had to and I ended up giving him money
1:32:40
back just because I know like if I didn't like make him happy he
1:32:43
would have just like did a eBay thing they would have.
1:32:45
Been a whole process with PayPal put you with a bad review or
1:32:49
whatever feedback. So I was like, I can't believe
1:32:51
I'm giving this guy money back, but.
1:32:53
You probably said, like, I think this works and that was the one
1:32:55
thing he was banking on. That was yeah, yeah, definitely.
1:32:59
What's that one on the bottom right?
1:33:01
Actually for a motorcycle, it was the guy who a friend of mine
1:33:04
who I went through this whole process with, he was like I want
1:33:08
to make a clutch for a holy shit.
1:33:10
No, it literally just. It's for a Harley.
1:33:12
Just a. Yeah, just like the pressure
1:33:14
plate. Is that a?
1:33:16
Harley. It's for a.
1:33:17
It's for like AI forgot what it's for.
1:33:20
It's for a. Dude cuz look, it's specific.
1:33:22
It's a open, primary looking thing.
1:33:26
Yeah, it's for a Harley. It's for a specific brand
1:33:28
clutch. I forget what it is.
1:33:29
Their stock one kind of looks stupid open.
1:33:32
Primary. Is yeah, it's definitely a
1:33:34
chopper. Cool as hell, cool as hell.
1:33:38
That's awesome. Though Malcolm, what you know
1:33:39
about? That but like that I think
1:33:42
nobody bought that. It was just not not a single
1:33:45
person bought that cause the problem.
1:33:46
The problem is it looks great. It looks it would look great on
1:33:50
like a Ducati guys who have Harleys.
1:33:53
I was thinking that when I saw that I was like, doesn't.
1:33:55
Really look like a Harley. They don't like they, they're
1:33:56
just like, you know, you don't even see that side half the time
1:33:59
anyway. You know what would make them
1:34:00
want this fucking if you just brass or gold hardware or
1:34:06
something to make it like make it his less useful.
1:34:10
Yeah, his parts are too nice looking.
1:34:12
You got to target like the Harley-Davidson Dinah community.
1:34:14
Exactly. This is a performance product.
1:34:17
Yeah, this is the shopper. People do not.
1:34:18
They don't. Yeah, they don't.
1:34:20
It was. It was dumb.
1:34:21
But like the brass and all that shit that I'm talking about is
1:34:23
literally just so that while it's spinning, you look cooler.
1:34:26
Like that's the only reason. Yeah, Chopper people just want
1:34:29
shit to. Look, but like on on Frankie and
1:34:31
Malcolm's bike, that would probably be beneficial as hell.
1:34:34
You can make so much shit for those bikes, like I feel like,
1:34:36
but that's the thing, like unless you're in the community,
1:34:39
yeah, you don't know. You don't fucking know.
1:34:41
So what are you gonna? That also caught me off guard
1:34:43
cuz I was like you make Harley stuff.
1:34:45
Yeah, it was just one thing that.
1:34:47
But like, how much time did that take to fucking?
1:34:50
So to be fair I had no like Oscar did all that cuz he's the
1:34:57
one. That's programming he.
1:34:58
Programmed it and he he actually ran that part and I'm just like
1:35:02
OK, yeah I have no idea how much time he spent on that I know
1:35:05
like time spent on the door handles and chick cuz yeah I
1:35:08
helped with that and I ran that and.
1:35:10
But those you at least. Sell pretty often.
1:35:12
So that's like I'm literally just sitting there in the shop,
1:35:15
like in the heat for like 14 hours.
1:35:18
I was literally just like click a button, lay on the floor and.
1:35:21
Just make. Sure, like like you have to like
1:35:24
listen also because you tell like.
1:35:25
Cuts wrong and then you're like, Oh yeah, exactly.
1:35:27
You'll hear like something and you'll like spring up and like
1:35:30
hit the stop and like what fucking broke now when will the?
1:35:32
Robots be good enough that we don't need to like.
1:35:35
They're there like they're like, they're like if you, you could
1:35:38
have a fully automated shop, like a fully automated machine
1:35:41
shop with robots. It's just that there's so many
1:35:43
like fail safes that you have to have.
1:35:45
That's that's where like the robots are expensive.
1:35:48
The program is expensive. And then like having all the
1:35:50
fail safes for like when something breaks, because you
1:35:53
will break a tool, no matter even if it's perfect, you'll
1:35:55
eventually break something. So you have to constantly like
1:35:57
check for where on every tool. So it's it's already there, but
1:36:02
not in my, not in my. We have a couple of friends that
1:36:04
work. We have a couple of friends that
1:36:06
worked in like a expensive operating machinery operating
1:36:10
fucking thing. They did like kneecaps and shit
1:36:12
for hospitals or whatever you call it, medical stuff.
1:36:17
Like wags and. Stuff.
1:36:18
Yeah, dude, that's where they all work.
1:36:19
Like that shit is crazy because they're doing everything you're
1:36:21
saying. Like they're checking everything
1:36:24
and like waiting and watching and sitting there.
1:36:26
And sometimes they just sit there for fucking hours.
1:36:29
Yeah, the, the medical stuff is like the guys who do our
1:36:32
anodizing, they're like, which they're fucking awesome.
1:36:35
Because I remember like I went into the shop in Connecticut,
1:36:38
Connecticut anodizing. They, they do anodizing like
1:36:42
like on a crazy, like they do medical.
1:36:45
They do like for all these like awesome, like knife companies
1:36:49
and stuff like that. Like they do so much anodizing
1:36:52
there. And I like walk in with like a
1:36:54
bucket of door handles and they're, I'm like, and they were
1:36:57
like, yeah, no problem, we'll do it.
1:36:58
And then I get all my anodizing down there and I'm like, I, I
1:37:02
told him like, why, why? He's like, whoa, you know, my
1:37:05
father always said like, you know, money's money doesn't
1:37:07
matter. I'm like, you don't like my, I
1:37:10
think it's like my $1500 is not going to change anything.
1:37:14
But they just, there's such good people and they're like, no,
1:37:17
we'll just like you need it done.
1:37:19
We'll do it. And I'm like, that's awesome.
1:37:21
And it's just this crazy big operation.
1:37:23
They do like he's like gave me a tour one time and it's like he
1:37:26
has this like whole like this sheet of like all the medical
1:37:29
stuff that they've done and like out of the like 20,000 parts
1:37:33
there was like 1 reject and I'm like oh wow that's fucking
1:37:36
crazy. Yeah.
1:37:38
And that's, that's just anodizing.
1:37:40
Yeah, all they do is anodizing. That's all they.
1:37:42
Do and their medical stuff too. So the medical so people
1:37:44
manufacturing that stuff send them out to them and then they
1:37:46
probably got to get them back and then inspect everything
1:37:49
again. Yep, because it's medical.
1:37:50
Like you can't just let that shit go.
1:37:52
That's crazy. It's a whole like, and they're
1:37:55
so cool. It's like, hey, can I get this
1:37:56
like in purple? And they're like, yeah, next
1:37:58
time we do like purple, we'll throw it in there like, awesome.
1:38:00
Thank you. And where are they located?
1:38:02
They're in. It's called Connecticut.
1:38:04
Yeah, they're they're in. Oh yeah.
1:38:07
They're in Connecticut. They're in Connecticut, they're
1:38:09
in Bridgeport, CT. OK, so.
1:38:12
So you got to travel a little. Bit yeah, it's like a like it's
1:38:14
like an hour and a half. I'll drive out there sometimes
1:38:17
if it's small stuff, I'll just have them ship it.
1:38:19
But they're like having them there was like that.
1:38:23
The biggest thing was figuring out the anodizing on the door
1:38:25
handles, because if we just anodize them like your normal
1:38:27
like this stuff, you see, like, you know, 90% of the time where
1:38:31
it's just like this shiny, like black, it would look terrible
1:38:36
because you'd have like this shiny black anodized piece
1:38:39
against the door panel that, you know, in a race car would be
1:38:42
fine, but in like a like an actual like nice car would just
1:38:45
be ugly. So like it took a, it took a
1:38:48
while to figure out like how to like where do I need to go to
1:38:51
get this style of anodizing done?
1:38:54
Are you talking about the inside or the?
1:38:55
Outside of the inner hand in. Either one of them, honestly.
1:38:58
So like if you see like if you click the holy.
1:39:00
Crap. Yeah.
1:39:01
There's a lot if. You go back, go back.
1:39:04
That's a lot of E 30s dude. The middle.
1:39:06
One on the bottom if you. Click the middle one on the
1:39:07
bottom like that's just like your straight like the middle
1:39:10
one on the left is clear on the right is I is sorry about that.
1:39:16
That was fine on the right is raw and the middle is just like
1:39:19
black like so that's like your net your normal like black
1:39:21
anodizing yeah and if you go to like any of the door handle
1:39:24
pictures some. Of the clothes, I can already
1:39:27
tell. Like.
1:39:29
It's even the picture on the I can keep going that's just a
1:39:32
render like the one on the left right there like that's that's
1:39:36
it's like a nice matte anodizing.
1:39:38
That looks nice, have you learned anything about
1:39:40
anodizing? I don't know shit about it.
1:39:41
All I know is it always looks better than like powder coat I
1:39:43
feel like. It's, I feel like it's electric,
1:39:46
like boogie woogie, woogie piggie fucking send this shit.
1:39:49
And then it's, it's not a pigment that you're like putting
1:39:54
on it, right? It's it's something else that
1:39:56
charges it that way. So the way it works with the
1:39:58
aluminum, it like, so you know how aluminum oxidizes?
1:40:01
Yeah, it literally that you're, when you're anodizing it, you're
1:40:04
building up that layer of oxide and you're just pigmenting it.
1:40:07
Whoa. I mean, I, I think that that
1:40:10
sounds right. That's why.
1:40:11
That sounds legit. I I know, I know like that's I,
1:40:14
I'm like 99%. That's how it works.
1:40:17
It's like you build up like the, the, the layer of oxide and have
1:40:22
it pigmented. But like these we have to so
1:40:24
they have to run these through like these have to get like
1:40:28
blasted first, then anodized and then they do something called
1:40:31
brightening, which I don't know what brightening is, but it
1:40:34
makes it like have this like almost like a slight Sheen like
1:40:37
it's matte, but it's not matte if you.
1:40:39
It's like when a new car, like it's not like Armor Alley.
1:40:42
Yeah, it's like, if you go, can you go back again?
1:40:46
Probably turns it to like more. Of a semi go up woo.
1:40:50
I think I have a picture in the sun somewhere.
1:40:54
I just try to take a picture every time I go there.
1:40:56
There you go. So it's like a, it's like a
1:40:59
really nice. Yeah, OEM looking OEM.
1:41:03
That looks legit as hell. But the fucked up thing is it's
1:41:05
way better than OEM because it's not fucking plastic.
1:41:08
Correct, but it looks plastic like you nailed the colour.
1:41:11
Yeah, it was. It was like once, once they
1:41:14
showed me Nick over there, one of the sons that run it once he
1:41:16
like showed it to me. I was like, oh, like that's
1:41:18
that's what I want. Yes, that that you nailed the
1:41:21
colour for sure that that's a very like OEM look.
1:41:24
So. It's awesome and these things
1:41:25
break all the time, you said. Yeah, some guys, it's like one
1:41:28
of those things, either no, either the person has no idea
1:41:31
that this is like a problem, or people like me that have gone
1:41:35
through like 20 of them. Yeah.
1:41:37
And they they always break in the same spot.
1:41:39
Pulling the door handle like rather aggressive.
1:41:42
Not. Drifting.
1:41:42
They just, oh, I just. Pulling everything?
1:41:44
No. No no no, because OK IS3
1:41:46
hundreds and Koias have the same exact problem.
1:41:49
They break and then it's right at the the part that spins
1:41:52
right. You can't even grab.
1:41:55
Yeah, it breaks at the pivot every time.
1:41:57
You can't grab it, but me personally knock on wood on all
1:42:02
of them when I open the door. I'm really just opening it like
1:42:06
this anyway. Who would have thought you'd?
1:42:07
Be so gentle with it. I am, but just like, I don't
1:42:13
know I'm not. Yanking it like I could.
1:42:15
Break it though, I feel like you know who I feel like would break
1:42:18
a door handle. Nick, that's.
1:42:20
Fucked up that we both thought that.
1:42:22
That's crazy. Wow.
1:42:26
Big Nick would break a door handle for.
1:42:28
For sure. This is cool, man.
1:42:31
I didn't. I'm glad.
1:42:32
I'm glad we got to have you on and learn about all this because
1:42:34
I didn't know here. Did we get quite we?
1:42:35
Yeah, we definitely did. OK.
1:42:36
Yeah, I just didn't like, I, I saw all that shit on your page.
1:42:40
I was like, Yo, does he have eight companies or?
1:42:41
Something. No.
1:42:42
Well, yeah, no, I just. I like the process that you go
1:42:45
through for all your stuff. It looks like you'd really think
1:42:47
through your stuff and it's inspiring and I appreciate it
1:42:51
home and make sure that I'm like, what the fuck?
1:42:53
Why? Why the fuck Frank doing all
1:42:55
this shit not too? Much.
1:42:56
It's too much thinking. Like if you oh shit.
1:42:59
Malcolm that myself, that photo of him is is pretty.
1:43:02
Bad. It's yeah, yeah, I already, I
1:43:05
knew it was a problem for the second.
1:43:08
I like, did you, like, I hope you like, stubbed your toe or
1:43:11
like, slipped off a wrench today.
1:43:13
I don't want you to get injured, but I want you to know, yeah,
1:43:16
that was terrible. At least it's only up there for.
1:43:20
24 hours. Look how cool.
1:43:21
Look how cool Frank looks in person, too.
1:43:23
Yeah, like everybody who's clicking through this story is
1:43:26
like. I'm not watching that, but.
1:43:28
In my head, I took that screenshot and I'm just like,
1:43:30
Yikes. But it's gonna have to do it.
1:43:34
That's crazy. You could, Frankie.
1:43:36
You're gonna look what happens meeting with Malcolm Wayne.
1:43:38
Look. What happens when Eddie's gone?
1:43:40
For one day, the world just ends.
1:43:42
I knew what happened because I went through my own Instagram
1:43:44
and I was like, I guess I don't really have a lot of pictures of
1:43:46
myself. And I I know he like you
1:43:48
scrolled and you found you, like probably passed that point when
1:43:52
you're like, I can't find anything, fuck this.
1:43:53
I'm going back up and using this.
1:43:55
Yeah, exactly what happened, Yeah.
1:43:57
Analyzed. He analyzed the whole fucking.
1:43:59
Go. You're like, I'm not going to
1:44:03
bother going on Facebook or just clicking, clicking like the the
1:44:06
pictures he's tagged in. I'm just going to put this
1:44:08
thing. Damn not it wasn't roasted.
1:44:10
Yeah, I fucked up. It wasn't even it was like clip
1:44:15
art from like 1999 from do Microsoft Word clip art.
1:44:19
Used to be the shit man, that little.
1:44:23
No, I love that shit. Clippy, Clippy, yo.
1:44:25
Oh. My God.
1:44:27
I never understood his. There was no fucking early AI
1:44:30
bro. No because it was.
1:44:34
It had no purpose if it didn't know the answer.
1:44:37
Literally it. Just I would ask that fucking
1:44:38
dumb thing so many questions and it would not help me out.
1:44:41
I didn't know what it did as a kid.
1:44:43
It's like you need help. I thought it was a paper clip.
1:44:46
And then I had to ask it or something, I think, I don't
1:44:48
know, I could be lying about. What it was for he's there
1:44:50
though. Clippy.
1:44:52
These questions, so we just put this on Instagram and then
1:44:54
people just send them. There's no way for me to vet
1:44:58
this stuff because I don't know shit about BMWs.
1:45:00
So I'm just going to ask you and the first one says what happened
1:45:04
to the horse head? Does anyone know what that?
1:45:07
Means there is a who, who, who asked that question.
1:45:10
Boost me up, buttercup. Oh, that's Danny.
1:45:12
OK, that's Danny there. There's a picture if you go.
1:45:17
His personal. No, I haven't on I think it's on
1:45:19
my Facebook. So so me and Danny go way back
1:45:21
me and like I had my E30. I started drift.
1:45:25
I actually started with like I wanted to like road race it and
1:45:29
then I was like drift like I would I would show up to
1:45:31
flushing medicine with like R1 Rs on the car.
1:45:33
I was like, I'm not drifting. I'm just Rd. racing.
1:45:36
Yeah, which I never. I did like 1 HPD and I was like
1:45:38
yeah this sucks. I'm good.
1:45:42
So Danny got an E30 not long after I got mine and then like
1:45:47
he started drifting. I started drifting, he started
1:45:50
drifting and now our E 30s are like like they're matched like
1:45:55
my my purple car matched like we we did the same paint same like
1:45:59
he has an Sr. So the only like we didn't copy
1:46:01
like body kits or engines, but we just like we wanted like a
1:46:03
cohesive like the two of us to be look cool together basically.
1:46:09
So yeah, there's a picture of him somewhere with a horse head
1:46:12
on. It's like I had one of.
1:46:13
Those like you had the horse. Mask like the rubber horse mask?
1:46:15
Yeah. Yeah, that's funny.
1:46:17
Well, what happened to it? It's still, I think I still have
1:46:20
it. You might wanna bring that back.
1:46:21
It sounds like he misses it. OK, let's hear about the crazy
1:46:25
M20. So that's on.
1:46:26
So that's on my, if you go on my Instagram that I, I went into
1:46:31
the real deep end of building this engine.
1:46:34
Yeah, I've seen some. Photos the other day.
1:46:36
So if you go, yeah. That one, right?
1:46:37
Yeah, I'm still there's still more of that.
1:46:40
Bruh shit, it's. Crazy.
1:46:43
That shit is a real engine. Yes, that looks like a fake.
1:46:47
Engine, you did that weird heat rap.
1:46:49
Shit on the headers yes, I did that from does everyone it works
1:46:52
great, but but in the US, like I think it's like I forget the
1:46:56
company that does it. There's a German company that
1:46:58
does it and like has it like colour.
1:47:00
I don't know how long this colour is going to last for, but
1:47:02
it looks cool now that shit looks sick and it wasn't much
1:47:05
more expensive than if I had it done here.
1:47:06
So it's like whatever. And that's wrapped around each
1:47:09
individual header. Yeah.
1:47:10
So they wrap it and then it's like like like tack welded with
1:47:13
some sort of like little welding.
1:47:15
Thing what in the actual? It's just like, it's just like
1:47:17
another heat wrap, but it's like really nice.
1:47:20
No, it's just like another thing that yeah, just went out of his
1:47:24
way to. Do, yeah, obviously you're
1:47:26
trying to go overboard on this, yeah.
1:47:28
It was crazy. So this, I actually, I had this
1:47:31
kind of almost done. So we did, I designed the intake
1:47:36
manifold I, which if you go back, it was keep me like, like
1:47:42
you're going to have to go like a bit further.
1:47:46
Where is it? This thing's going to be ITB and
1:47:48
Turbo. Am I but not not not ITB.
1:47:50
It looks like ITB but it's not, so I don't.
1:47:54
Have you seen any like Group B rally stuff back in the day?
1:47:58
Not you know, I see like the little videos of it, but not.
1:48:01
Audi had like what it's called like a a dual plenum intake.
1:48:04
So it's like an intake. If you go to the can you go to
1:48:07
the next picture? It's got a throttle body.
1:48:10
So it's actually there's a throttle body, everything goes
1:48:13
into this cone. This cone has a slot in it that
1:48:16
feeds the second plenum. So it basically like forces all
1:48:19
your air into the cone, then the cone, then within that slot goes
1:48:24
to the secondary plenum. So now like all your cylinders
1:48:27
are seeing the exact same amount of air.
1:48:30
That's where Nissan fucked up. Like a canal, Like a canal
1:48:33
system in the water. Yeah, so Audi did this in there
1:48:39
like Group B rally days. And I was like, oh, there's
1:48:41
Danny's car. And I was like, oh, like, like I
1:48:44
want to do some like, I wanted to do IT.
1:48:46
BS. The only company that makes IT
1:48:49
BS OK. The only reason why I did this
1:48:51
intake was because I was angry. Clear you got to be mad at
1:48:55
something like this. Shit looks crazy.
1:48:58
Dude, I wanted to just do I wanted to just do ITB turbo,
1:49:01
which was cool and I bought these IT BS, which is the only
1:49:05
company that makes them now and I was like, all right, let me
1:49:08
just pressure test it to see like make sure they like hold
1:49:11
like boost and there's a slot that runs through it.
1:49:14
There's a bearing on each side which is not sealed.
1:49:17
And I like like tested it. Like I tested one of like one
1:49:21
pair and it literally was just like as quickly as air went in,
1:49:24
it came out of the bearing and the dude was like, Oh no, it's
1:49:29
fine. Like your turbo will make up for
1:49:30
it, which he's not wrong. Like it was like in the grand
1:49:33
scheme of things, like having the amount of air that was
1:49:37
leaking it, it was still a boost leak, but it wasn't like
1:49:41
something that that was insane. But I was like, no, I don't want
1:49:44
any. I don't want any leaks there.
1:49:46
So I was like, look. At the engine.
1:49:47
Yeah, at at the time I was also like, I was like, I was going to
1:49:51
do I had meth injection. So I was like, if I'm spraying
1:49:54
meth like after my intercooler, I'm now going to just have
1:49:58
methanol just spraying into my engine Bay.
1:50:01
And he's like, no, it's fine. I'm like no, it's not fine.
1:50:04
So I returned them and then I was like, well, I just want to
1:50:06
make something cool. So granted, I had a lot of help
1:50:10
with this. I, the idea was definitely mine,
1:50:14
but I did like, I, there's no way I was, I'm able to like
1:50:18
physically figure out all this stuff that went into doing this.
1:50:21
So I really it looks. Insane.
1:50:23
You're telling me you built this intake manifold?
1:50:25
Bro he's told he just told that whole story was about him going.
1:50:29
Through so so the the problem the problem we had that was
1:50:32
crazy, which we didn't say we didn't account for the we tested
1:50:38
the carbon fiber like part of it under under booth like under
1:50:41
pressure yeah and it holds fine The problem we had though is
1:50:45
like under vacuum it's like it sucks.
1:50:47
What's the thing that blew up that imploded?
1:50:50
The the the. Summary.
1:50:52
The Helium. Immersible.
1:50:53
The ocean gate. So yeah, so under under vacuum,
1:50:57
it's like wants to implode on. Itself.
1:50:59
What the fuck? So what happened was I basically
1:51:04
have to remake the the carbon fiber thing is going to be cool
1:51:06
like on a wall, but we're like Joe over at STEM tech is
1:51:09
actually I worked with him to redesign it in like a, a CNC
1:51:13
able like aluminum setup. So we're not going to have the
1:51:15
carbon fiber, but it's going to still be the same, same.
1:51:18
So we was like going in like this kind of.
1:51:21
Like opposite of what you think would happen?
1:51:22
Yeah, I like it. And that was like pre preg, like
1:51:26
carbon, like it was like, it wasn't just like, you know, like
1:51:29
some bullshit thing. Like we literally had a we made
1:51:31
a mold to make this. This does not look like a
1:51:34
bullshit thing, Frank. This, I appreciate it.
1:51:36
The fact that it is, the fact that it's real is.
1:51:42
Look at the thermostat house. That was that was a printed one,
1:51:45
but. Oh yeah, now I get a really good
1:51:48
idea of how valuable that thing is, the thermostat housing.
1:51:51
But yeah, the fact that it's real and none of these pictures
1:51:54
are fake, I'm still. Thinking about the little valley
1:51:57
in the intake manifold. The thing's so sick.
1:51:59
Like the Valley? And the the the.
1:52:01
Like so that. Yeah, so.
1:52:02
That it so. It all goes down to this.
1:52:04
It's like 2. It's like 2.
1:52:06
Plenums almost correct it if you you just go on the Internet and
1:52:11
just search, search see if I can pull it up.
1:52:15
I think we search like Audi dual intake, dual plenum intake
1:52:19
manifold. Now does that, does that valley
1:52:25
in there that like transfers the air, does that taper off in any
1:52:28
sort of? Way no, it's just a it's a
1:52:29
consistent slot. So if you go, if you look at can
1:52:34
you go back again? Just go to the scroll, click
1:52:39
that first one, there you go. So if you you can go through all
1:52:43
these pictures but like this is what they did.
1:52:45
Bro, this website, yeah. What?
1:52:50
The. Fuck.
1:52:52
This is. So I love this.
1:52:55
By the way, this has got to be very useful information.
1:52:57
It like if you go down you'll see.
1:52:59
I think there's like a cross section on one of these
1:53:01
pictures. I'm hoping let's see any cross
1:53:06
section here bro. What the fuck?
1:53:13
Maybe there? There's there you go.
1:53:15
So you can see like that's how the inside basically looks.
1:53:17
So you have the cone, everything gets forced in, the cone goes
1:53:21
through the slot, and now everything in that secondary
1:53:23
plenum is exact. All the air is.
1:53:26
Should be in theory, yeah. In.
1:53:28
Theory. In theory, all the air that can
1:53:31
be evenly distributed is now evenly distributed.
1:53:33
Yeah. So you're at the mercy of how
1:53:37
even and level that slot is. I guess basically it's a
1:53:41
pressure thing, like you're sending all the air in there
1:53:43
first and hoping that the air transfers over more equal.
1:53:47
It it like I have I think I have pictures somewhere, but I did we
1:53:50
did like some CFD analysis and it was like it like works.
1:53:54
I mean, in theory works really well.
1:53:55
Like this intake could be like, I want to say, I don't want to
1:53:58
say this intake could not work. Like I literally, yeah, studied
1:54:02
everything Group B Rally did and Audi did.
1:54:04
And I was like, well, if it works for them, there's no
1:54:07
reason why it won't work for us. And the only thing I couldn't
1:54:09
figure out was like how to calculate the slot area, which
1:54:13
thankfully what's his name Michael McCoy from like I forget
1:54:18
what the company. Works for.
1:54:19
I had a boss named Mike McCoy once.
1:54:21
He, he was like, oh, I know how to calculate slot area.
1:54:23
I was like, can you please help me calculate the slot area here
1:54:27
because I have no idea what it needs to be.
1:54:29
And he's like, it needs to be, you know, like 500 millimeters.
1:54:32
And I was like, OK, cool. How do you get that?
1:54:33
Though I don't I didn't ask like I was like.
1:54:35
Measure of the vacuum and whatever and whatever.
1:54:37
He's one of the, I think TRM Motorsports.
1:54:39
I think it's what it is. And he's one of the tuners over
1:54:41
there and he's like he, I don't know how he knows or but.
1:54:46
And all of this is just to give equal amounts of air to each
1:54:49
cylinder so that they burn more efficiently, correct?
1:54:52
And it was, it was literally because I was upset.
1:54:54
I was like, I can't run ITV, So what can I do now?
1:54:57
Yeah. And so unfortunately that like
1:54:58
pushed like that's another thing, kids, if you have a drift
1:55:03
car and it works, don't take it apart.
1:55:07
Because then you end up here. Yeah.
1:55:08
So this engine is for your drift car or?
1:55:10
Yeah. No, this is this is for the
1:55:11
drift car. It'd be cool to put like
1:55:14
different inserts in there so that you could switch that.
1:55:17
Would there be a benefit to that?
1:55:19
I mean, you could because that's like you changing like jetting
1:55:21
on a carb or something on a bike.
1:55:23
In a way, there's like different slot areas for different like
1:55:26
horsepower levels. So I think like it definitely
1:55:28
would change things. I am not.
1:55:30
I'll be honest, I'm not smart enough to know like how it would
1:55:32
change. Things.
1:55:33
I don't know why, I don't think it would.
1:55:34
Be beneficial. I think it would be restrictive
1:55:37
though, like you could do it how they would do it, but they could
1:55:39
restrict it, but I don't think it would be like.
1:55:43
You could probably change like the.
1:55:45
You could probably change the curve slightly with it if you
1:55:47
needed. To that would be cool.
1:55:48
OK. But like to the left?
1:55:50
No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, it was so I like this
1:55:53
car had so many setbacks. So it was like it was, as you
1:55:56
could see it was together. It needed to just be painted and
1:56:00
wired. And I like, I know wiring, but I
1:56:04
don't I don't have the tools to do it correctly.
1:56:07
I don't have the tools to do it right and I don't want to get
1:56:12
too much into it, but basically there was some setbacks in the
1:56:16
wiring situation which caused me to have to literally take the
1:56:20
engine out and rebuild it. I will say the guy who I'm not
1:56:27
going to mention names, he as much as it sucked about what
1:56:31
happened, happened. He did like he took care of
1:56:33
everything. Like he's like, whatever it is,
1:56:35
I'll pay for it, I'll fix it right.
1:56:38
And so like, I like it sucks, but he did force me to kind of
1:56:41
do other things correctly. So I kind of wasn't in the
1:56:45
hindsight it was good, but he he was, he was like he he basically
1:56:50
everything that was fucked up, he paid for.
1:56:52
His wiring is fucking amazing. It's just a mistake.
1:56:55
It's just he the car. Long story short, the car was
1:56:58
left out. It shouldn't have been left out
1:57:00
because I had no like and injectors in it or anything like
1:57:05
that. Like engine filled.
1:57:06
Like I literally opened the oil pan and there was like gallons
1:57:10
of water coming out of my oil pan.
1:57:11
So it wasn't even a wiring thing, it was just the neglect.
1:57:13
Type thing. Yeah, it was that, but like I
1:57:16
said, I'm not going to mention names, but I he he I'm still
1:57:19
having him finish like he has still finished the wiring.
1:57:21
I'm still having him finish it because it sucks, but not like a
1:57:25
super stand up dude. Like he knows he's like, I
1:57:27
fucked up. I'm going to make it right and
1:57:29
he made it right. He everything.
1:57:31
I was like, hey, this costs us much.
1:57:32
This costs us much. I mean, you never hear that.
1:57:34
You never hear those stories where like he usually goes bad.
1:57:37
Yeah, I know. He's like, whatever, just send
1:57:38
me a bill and I'll pay it. Yeah.
1:57:40
And he did. And but that forced me to in a
1:57:43
good way, because it was like the engine Bay was never going
1:57:46
to be painted body color because the engine was already in it.
1:57:49
So now you can. It was.
1:57:50
Now everything is painted and everything's one color.
1:57:52
Now, you were drifting last year in this car, right?
1:57:54
No, I have a have a so. Oh, OK.
1:57:57
So you think that was the one I was?
1:57:59
Confused. I'm like, I'm like, this is the
1:58:00
drift car. So the, the white car that that
1:58:03
I brought here, that was, that's just like the like a few years
1:58:06
ago, my buddies got tired like Danny in particular, he's like,
1:58:11
he got tired of me not driving. And he's like, you need to get a
1:58:14
car. And I'm like, I don't need to
1:58:14
get a car. I'm going to just, I want to
1:58:16
focus on the, the purple car. And yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:58:18
It got to a point where it's like, I really, I'm like
1:58:20
spending like years, not like I'll go to an event, borrow a
1:58:23
car for like a few laps and then like not drift.
1:58:27
And it was like. Sounds like me.
1:58:28
It was years of that and then this white car popped up in
1:58:31
Jersey for cheap. It was like a caged driving car.
1:58:35
I think it was like 3500 bucks and it didn't drove it did need
1:58:41
work but he basically all the parts he threw in paid for the
1:58:46
work on like paid for the cost of the car cuz I just sold all
1:58:48
the parts I didn't need and I've been driving it for like 3
1:58:51
years. Well it's a stock.
1:58:53
It's just a stock M20 and. You're probably having a blast
1:58:54
in that, no? It's great.
1:58:55
It's funny. Is there a weak point for the
1:58:57
M20? Aside from that thermostat
1:58:58
housing obviously, but. They're not even a weak point.
1:59:00
The only weak point is like the rocker arms.
1:59:02
They, they, and I won't say it's a weak point.
1:59:04
They're only weak because they were like 30 years old.
1:59:06
What about like a drive just to drive?
1:59:09
I like the E30, he's thinking. About.
1:59:11
Buying No, I'm not. I just like talking to people
1:59:13
about like all their cars and A and a guy and you're not.
1:59:16
Dude, so you thinking about you thinking.
1:59:19
About No, I'm not. I don't like BMW.
1:59:20
They don't have any rear adjustability on the stock setup
1:59:25
which isn't terrible but it's not great.
1:59:28
The actual like front geometry in stock form is not great.
1:59:38
It's not bad overall though. Like you throw.
1:59:42
So I I drifted that car for like 3 years with no angle mods
1:59:45
nothing. Last time I was here was like
1:59:47
that's when I went with like ASLR budget kit.
1:59:52
It drives so much better now. I was like, I should have done
1:59:54
this three years ago, but it's there's like you could, it's a
1:59:58
fun car. It's like I've heard it's.
2:00:00
Go Kart like. It's very like, yeah, I would
2:00:03
say it's very go Kart like. It's very fun to drive.
2:00:07
And I heard it also doesn't do this, so you're just pretty
2:00:10
much. Like this.
2:00:11
So you can do that, but you have to.
2:00:13
The only way to do that is to like physically space the column
2:00:16
down. Frankie, so you're literally.
2:00:19
I see what you're saying. Yeah.
2:00:20
You're sitting there like this. Yeah.
2:00:22
I'm constantly made fun of cuz I like I like AT Rex.
2:00:25
When I drive, I kind of like drive like I bet.
2:00:27
Like it would be so. Odd.
2:00:29
Yeah, I have to sit and want to see what the.
2:00:31
Fucks you're talking. About They drive real well, they
2:00:33
looks. Like they drive very well.
2:00:35
Awesome. In three years, the only thing
2:00:37
I've done with the white car, let's ignore the fact that I
2:00:41
blew up two engines, which was going to happen, and it the
2:00:44
first engine was like what? So the first engine rocker arms.
2:00:48
Where was the? Where was the other two?
2:00:52
So the, the the first engine was my fault.
2:00:55
I was at like we were in Rockingham Speedway in North
2:00:57
Carolina and there's like the bank on that track is like is
2:01:00
like this. And I didn't like think, oh,
2:01:02
maybe I should check my oil. Like I like went on the bank
2:01:06
just to like drive and then went back off it and it was just
2:01:08
knocking. And I was like, alright, I'm
2:01:09
just gonna and I mind you, I got the whole day out of it before
2:01:12
it blew the piston out of the block.
2:01:14
But it it lasted an entire like I drifted it like there's a
2:01:19
video somewhere. We'll have him put it.
2:01:21
All you hear is knocking bad. And it drifted drifting whole
2:01:25
day like that. Actually, it drifted a day and a
2:01:27
half and then it blew up on the second day and no oil even came
2:01:29
out. It blew up the like a piece of
2:01:31
the block came off like no oil came out of it.
2:01:34
That's there. Was no more.
2:01:35
There was oil in it. It was just fucking just sitting
2:01:40
in the. Bottom Well, one of the next
2:01:42
questions is about why did you stick with M 20s in your E 30s
2:01:46
and not swap to an M52. Oh yes.
2:01:48
Is there a big benefit? To that, so the, the when I
2:01:54
started doing like when I started drifting, this was like
2:01:56
in 2012, like was it 13 years ago at this point the the M20
2:02:02
community was like everyone was just putting 24 valve motors in
2:02:05
their car and that was it. And I don't blame them.
2:02:07
They like you could buy them for super. 24 valves so like like
2:02:11
the newer? Yeah, like E36E46 motor, like
2:02:15
M50M52M54-S50 S 52, all those motors and the like the the the
2:02:21
non M motors and they're still pretty cheap, but the non M
2:02:23
motors at that time were really cheap.
2:02:25
So guys, just you'd make like, you know, I think an M52 makes
2:02:30
like 200 something horsepower or like close to 200.
2:02:33
I forget what it is, but you could like for a few for for
2:02:36
pennies, you could swap out, get rid of the M20 have a better
2:02:39
motor that just drives better and works better.
2:02:42
And I was like, I don't want to do that.
2:02:43
I want to just the M20 works, works fine.
2:02:45
There's no reason to change. It now how much power does that
2:02:47
make from the factory? 160 something OK, but that's
2:02:53
when I like that's when I turbo the M20.
2:02:57
This was back in actually probably 2015 or so.
2:03:01
I was like I had the I had the same car turbo 125 hundred wheel
2:03:06
horsepower and no like that was 500 wheel horsepower on it was
2:03:12
AI think it was. We did like what did we do with
2:03:16
that one was that No, it was 3 something on stock everything
2:03:20
drove that for a while, built up the next one at 500, which
2:03:23
wasn't even. It was like Forge Pistons, cheap
2:03:26
HP rods, an S52 crank and I made 500 horse to the wheels and I
2:03:31
drifted that for two or three years.
2:03:33
I think more than triple the power.
2:03:34
Yeah, and nothing like that. Nothing broke on that engine,
2:03:38
ever. Hell yeah.
2:03:40
Yeah, so I was like, why? Why it works?
2:03:43
Is it a single Cam? Single Cam like it's like it's
2:03:45
it's it's if if AKA had an extra 2 cylinders that's I.
2:03:49
Was about to say that. Like I feel like they're.
2:03:50
We like, we like single cams here.
2:03:52
Yeah, I don't know why, but we do.
2:03:54
Yeah, I don't know why I had a single Cam in a dual Cam in the
2:03:57
stock form. Yeah, the single Cam for some
2:03:59
reason, it probably because it was a square.
2:04:02
Yeah, it was strong. Like a bowl.
2:04:05
Like a. If.
2:04:07
I had to blow that thing up purposefully, and I swear to
2:04:10
you, if it didn't run out of oil, honestly, if I poured more
2:04:14
oil into it after that burnout I did, it would have been fine.
2:04:18
So it. Was knocking very minimally.
2:04:21
At the end of the day, it was you didn't want to, Yeah.
2:04:22
It was like, I just, I didn't want to do an engine swap and I
2:04:24
was like, like, why I didn't not that like, yeah, everyone, you
2:04:28
know, in this community, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of
2:04:30
times, like you kind of want to be different in a way because
2:04:33
you don't want to do the same thing as everyone else is doing.
2:04:36
And that sounds kind of like cliche, but you don't like you,
2:04:38
you know, And if everyone else is 24 valve swapping, like why?
2:04:41
Why bother? I'm just going to keep the M20.
2:04:43
It works and it worked well. Now you're talking.
2:04:46
Shout out to Rev OGI. Guess Rev 3 right?
2:04:49
Yeah, R3V is Rev limited. Yeah, I've been on the forum for
2:04:52
a long time. That's.
2:04:53
How we do the beamer people in here I.
2:04:55
Don't know. Yeah, I don't.
2:04:56
I didn't know that either. The fact that Diego knows who
2:04:59
Frank was and. I he's been around for a minute.
2:05:03
Crazy he lives in Georgia. What's a la Diego?
2:05:07
What? Cordino probably.
2:05:11
Everyone's asking about this M20 bill but that.
2:05:13
Was. We already talked.
2:05:14
I don't. Know about his Instagram's like
2:05:16
Emperor? OK, Yeah.
2:05:18
Emperor Uno. Can we know why it's that
2:05:21
actually? Malcolm, can you go back to that
2:05:23
engine? I just want to see that engine
2:05:24
one more time. Just.
2:05:25
Dude, that I just like to look at it.
2:05:26
The heat, the heat wrapping you did on that, there it is again.
2:05:31
That is probably what makes it look this looks like a model.
2:05:35
Do you know what I'm talking about?
2:05:36
Like those little scale models? That's exactly.
2:05:38
What that looks like? So what do you?
2:05:41
Think you're going to run power wise on this?
2:05:43
So it's not going to be like, I don't want to say it's not going
2:05:46
to be crazy. I'm not.
2:05:47
I'm literally like 600 at the wheels and I'm probably going to
2:05:50
just tune back down to five and just stay.
2:05:52
There you just wanted to build. I just.
2:05:53
Want to build a really nice engine.
2:05:55
It was like I I have. This is like a piece of jewelry,
2:05:58
dude. Yeah, I know.
2:05:59
Looking at it, it's like, what am I looking at?
2:06:05
Like why is? There AI want to.
2:06:07
See it on the front with the plenum on it.
2:06:10
Yeah, we're gonna. Sprock it there, Frank.
2:06:12
Oh yeah. The front.
2:06:13
That's it. I guess that's for the.
2:06:15
That's the crank angle. Yeah.
2:06:16
So yeah, so this there's, I don't have the sensor mounted,
2:06:20
but there's a crank sensor that goes there.
2:06:22
It just looks crazy and raw and it looks cool as fuck.
2:06:26
Thank you. And I didn't want to like the
2:06:28
only other thing I was contemplating like on the excuse
2:06:34
me on the like DTM E30, like race cars, they would like run
2:06:41
the alternator off of a belt off of the rear axle in the trunk.
2:06:47
That's so so I was like, I would love to have an engine with
2:06:50
imagine having an engine with no accessories.
2:06:52
The only Oh shit, I'm fucking your shit up.
2:06:54
I just. I just don't want you to run
2:06:56
over it. Hold.
2:06:56
On hold on get unplugged. Don't have a technical?
2:07:00
Difficulty that would actually look fucking.
2:07:03
That would be fucking crazy. Because you could mount the
2:07:06
power steering on the back. Yeah, you could.
2:07:09
Electric power steering and the trunk.
2:07:10
Volvo little reservoir guy. That's what I have.
2:07:13
Electric power steering, an electric water pump.
2:07:16
This. Is like, this is the closest
2:07:17
you're gonna get to a chopper or a car.
2:07:18
Bro yeah 'cause you would have no water.
2:07:20
Pump you would so the only thing on that engine right now is just
2:07:23
the alternator and if I if I was like.
2:07:26
You'd. See, I was you would literally
2:07:26
have nothing. You would just have just like
2:07:28
there's literally nothing down there be.
2:07:31
Kind of cool though, that. Would be cool.
2:07:32
Dude Frank, you're what? What's another fucking?
2:07:34
Yeah, what's another year? Yeah, yeah.
2:07:36
I'm like, no. You said a few months like you
2:07:39
know what I mean? Like.
2:07:40
The radiator's already in the trunk and I was like, I don't
2:07:42
want to have the redesign, all this other shit.
2:07:44
That's a future project. I think, I think one day, yeah,
2:07:47
I might think about it. But right now I I, I need to
2:07:50
finish this fucking car. It would look absolutely insane,
2:07:54
but the fact that the alternator's there and and you
2:07:56
know it works is. Good enough, Yeah.
2:07:59
Like someone said, Mopar or no car, am I right?
2:08:02
Yeah, I have a like Frank Mopar when I start having yeah, it's
2:08:06
it's that that's like, that's another, that's like a 10 year
2:08:09
project. It's literally been a part for
2:08:10
10 years. Are you like secretly Dom
2:08:12
Toretto like with this charger like?
2:08:14
No, no. OK.
2:08:15
I was just wondering. Yeah.
2:08:16
What color was the charger? It's black.
2:08:18
Oh damn. Hell yeah.
2:08:19
They're all checking out. You probably look cool as fuck
2:08:22
at it. I think I thought I looked cool,
2:08:25
but I don't think I did. No, no, I grew it checks out
2:08:29
when you said charger I was like, no, that checks out that
2:08:31
that's that seems right. When's the Dodge Charger going
2:08:34
to be done? Someone asked Yep, who's that
2:08:37
Heffrey? Oh, that's fucking that's
2:08:40
that's. That's what we'll call it.
2:08:43
Hayes, Jeff. OK.
2:08:45
Is that Hayes, Jeff? Yeah, probably is.
2:08:47
I think he's a Mopar guy too. Yeah, yeah, Shadow Jeff.
2:08:52
Jeff's funny. He's fucking.
2:08:53
Yeah. Jeff is funny and I feel like he
2:08:55
doesn't get enough recognition. No, he's great, Shout.
2:08:57
Out, Jeff. He's fucking great.
2:08:59
He's like, I, I forgot, was it, No, it wasn't Jeff, but it was
2:09:02
just like he's oh, Jeff's just like quiet.
2:09:04
Yeah, but what he's, whatever he does to talk, it's hilarious you
2:09:09
said that. Too On the podcast he we were
2:09:12
like laughing and shit and he's like, yo, whenever Jeff says
2:09:14
something it's just fucking monumental, like.
2:09:17
Even when I talk to Jeff, I, you know, you see him in A at a
2:09:20
drift event or something, whatever he says is going to be
2:09:23
hilarious. I feel like Jeff is in my, like
2:09:26
my vision of Jeff is, oh, he's always wearing a hoodie.
2:09:29
Yeah. And a hat that's backwards.
2:09:32
It's mostly just a hoodie. He's always just like like even
2:09:35
if I'm sure he I know he doesn't know he wears like not in the
2:09:38
summer but I always just picture him in a hoodie.
2:09:41
Me too, I got a couple couple more questions.
2:09:45
What's the bare minimum you need to drift an E30?
2:09:47
I feel like that's a good question.
2:09:50
So having recently finally put angle on my white car, I would
2:09:54
say if you're just getting into it like you just started, you
2:09:59
don't need welded DIF or like now just welded DIF because
2:10:04
you're not going to, you're not going to spend money on a, on a
2:10:05
like a proper LSD in the stock LSD at this point or they're all
2:10:08
clapped. So welded DIF, decent
2:10:11
suspension. You don't need coilovers.
2:10:13
You could do like H&R and like Coney's or H&R and Billstein,
2:10:16
something like that. Tie rod spacers if you want like
2:10:22
a little bit of angle and just like maintenance mounts bushings
2:10:27
like do like do all the mounts do all the bushings like the
2:10:29
normal, normal maintenance stuff.
2:10:31
Valve adjustment on the M20. The shifter situation, the
2:10:35
shifter situation, I feel like every BMW when I go in it.
2:10:38
You ever see the shifter on a BMW?
2:10:39
No, I don't know this. Because it's like mounted to the
2:10:42
car and so all you get is this little circle.
2:10:45
So it's got the same. In that so the the guys who so
2:10:48
there's there's guys who do like chassis mounted shifters and a
2:10:51
lot of their BMWs which I don't do it.
2:10:53
Like do it, but don't do it. Is it?
2:10:55
Oh, so it's bad? It's fuck so on the on on my
2:10:59
purple car. I have like a chassis mounted
2:11:01
shifter, but it's it's a company AAF and it's like, it's like the
2:11:05
correct way to do a chassis mounted shifter.
2:11:08
Most of the ones that like you'll see are just like these
2:11:11
like shifters that are just sandwiched like on the trans
2:11:14
tunnel. And they they I've I ran, I've
2:11:17
ran them all and they suck. Like they're like super.
2:11:20
I don't want a Nachi like shifter.
2:11:22
Yeah, that's what I don't want because I feel like it's going
2:11:24
to be even harder for me to just like.
2:11:25
That's a. That's a drifting thing man, a
2:11:27
lot of people don't want shit like that.
2:11:29
Yeah, so on like the on the white car I have, I have a stock
2:11:32
shifter. Everything is stock on it.
2:11:34
It's like it's like a stock shift.
2:11:35
I think it just has like a upgraded like like I have like
2:11:38
upgraded like the bushings on it.
2:11:39
So it's like a little bit tighter because the stock rubber
2:11:42
is just very like loose. But the chassis amount of stuff
2:11:45
sucks unless you get like the the the problem is like the good
2:11:49
one is fucking expensive, but that you could literally just
2:11:53
first second when you're going third, you don't have to like
2:11:56
think about where third is. It's self-centered.
2:11:58
So you can just smash it into third.
2:11:59
It'll go there like there's no like, am I like the Nachi ones
2:12:04
where you're just like. Yeah, that shit sucks.
2:12:06
Yeah, this thing you just you just like throw it into third
2:12:08
and it since it self centers it automatically goes into the
2:12:10
third gear. All right, cool.
2:12:12
So look out for that. But that look though is sick.
2:12:16
I wish there was. I wish there was something that
2:12:18
looked like that. Do they use linkage or
2:12:20
something? Yeah, there's a okay on the
2:12:23
stock set up, there's a there's two parts of the linkage.
2:12:25
There's a shift carrier which holds which that's mounted to
2:12:28
the trans and to the chassis and that holds the like the shift
2:12:31
ball and the shifter arm. And then underneath the shifter
2:12:35
arm, underneath the shifter ball is like the actual rod that
2:12:38
connects to that, to the transmission.
2:12:40
OK. So it's not like directly on the
2:12:42
trans. So it has enough play in it
2:12:44
where the shifter being attached directly to the.
2:12:47
Car wouldn't hurt it or. You have to do like solid.
2:12:51
You have to do like stiff Poly or solid mounts to do like the
2:12:55
chassis mount the correct way. But OK, so you don't really need
2:12:58
that much shit to. No, you could you could I I will
2:13:01
say like driving E30 now, which I literally just got the budget
2:13:05
kit like it wasn't like I don't like I don't I don't want to cut
2:13:07
the fenders. I I just want I just need better
2:13:09
geometry and more angle. That definitely made things way
2:13:15
better. But to just get if you're just
2:13:17
getting started, just just Weld the DIF, get decent suspension,
2:13:20
do maintenance and. Kind of like a 240.
2:13:22
Yeah, exactly. Last question, some highlights
2:13:26
from visiting your from visiting Japan, I know you were in Japan.
2:13:29
I saw those photos. Yes, I go like I've, I've gone,
2:13:32
I think every year for like the past, I don't know, eight years
2:13:35
or something like that. What?
2:13:36
The fuck eight years you're a resident it it's.
2:13:40
I've gone a lot. I've got one year I went like
2:13:42
twice. So people like, think there's
2:13:44
one point going to Japan was cheap.
2:13:46
Yeah, like people like went to like we went to Japan and people
2:13:49
were like, you know, you got money.
2:13:51
I'm like, no, I have nothing. But like, it's more expensive
2:13:54
now. But there was one point I
2:13:55
remember, I think it was the first year I went the round
2:14:00
flight ticket to there. It was 600 bucks.
2:14:04
What the fuck? It was that cheap.
2:14:07
And then I went, I was like, well fuck it, I'll just go again
2:14:10
in like October. And again, it was like.
2:14:12
Was everything there cheap too, like it is right now?
2:14:14
So at that. Point, everything was the same,
2:14:16
like it was like it was almost. It was like maybe a little bit.
2:14:19
So it was like you were going to California or something.
2:14:21
Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a big deal.
2:14:22
It was like again, I went in like the same year in October
2:14:26
and it was again, 607 hundred bucks round round trip.
2:14:29
And then like, I stayed in a shitty Airbnb for like, I don't
2:14:33
know, $30 a day or something like that.
2:14:37
And then I just kept going back. I was like, this, There's so
2:14:40
much to do out there. And I know like a lot of the
2:14:42
drift guys, like they hold Japan, like, oh, it's like, you
2:14:45
know, and I agree to an extent. Like it is awesome, but there's
2:14:50
more than just like. I was about to ask, like, is it?
2:14:53
I'm sure by now eight years of going there, it's not just cars
2:14:57
that you're. Going there for no, like I went
2:14:59
there initially was like just to see Japan and experience it.
2:15:04
And like, the first time I went, I made friends that I'm still
2:15:08
friends with today. And the things like, you would
2:15:11
never do it here. But the, the first like, car
2:15:13
thing I went to out there was there was a guy just driving an
2:15:17
86 down like the street in Akihabara.
2:15:19
And I was like, waved him down. I was like, oh, your car's
2:15:22
awesome. You know, he spoke like this
2:15:24
broken English. And he's like, do you want to
2:15:25
come to like a car meet? And I'm like, now he's like,
2:15:28
yeah, get in. I'm like OK, like, like you
2:15:32
literally boom. Yeah, Oregon's harvesting.
2:15:35
Yeah, gone. He like, like you said, you
2:15:37
wouldn't do it here, but in Japan you feel so safe for some
2:15:40
reason, like so. Literally just got in this
2:15:41
dude's car and went to this. Like it was in, it was in
2:15:44
Akihabara in like this little underground garage.
2:15:46
I forget what it's fucking called.
2:15:48
They don't do them too much there anymore, but it was just
2:15:51
like awesome, like underground car meet that.
2:15:55
That was probably. That's sick, though.
2:15:58
Fucking sick ass experience like.
2:16:00
You're like. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna get in
2:16:02
this car. Why not?
2:16:03
And then I just made friends from that.
2:16:05
And then for a while I'd go out there and everyone goes to like
2:16:10
a beast to like drift. And I'm like, I'm gonna go there
2:16:12
one day. But if I'm gonna go there, like
2:16:14
I wanna like spend like a week there, like a days there and I
2:16:19
didn't want to like the trip I would always take.
2:16:21
It would be like 2 weeks. I didn't, I didn't want to
2:16:23
waste, not waste, but I didn't want to spend so much time like
2:16:26
drifting, like I could drift here and that it's fun drifting
2:16:29
there. So I would just do like single
2:16:31
drift days on like all the other tracks around Tokyo.
2:16:34
So I went to like, what is it Fuji where they have like the
2:16:40
Fuji sports lines, like that little like parking lot area.
2:16:45
I forget I think it's called Fuji Sportsland.
2:16:47
It's like it's where Fuji is, but it's.
2:16:50
Where the JZX's go, it's the one with the straight.
2:16:53
It's like, it's like it's a big parking lot.
2:16:55
Yeah, yeah. And then I went to where else
2:16:59
did I go? That was the first one.
2:17:03
The second one was Mahon. I did go to Mahon, which was a
2:17:08
disaster. Don't go to if you're if you've
2:17:11
unless you've driven even for a long time, unless you've driven
2:17:14
right hand drive. Oh, I knew that was.
2:17:15
Don't go to Mahon. What else was it?
2:17:20
Mobara was another one. I like Mobara, Cirque, the
2:17:24
twins. Yeah, Mobara.
2:17:26
It's crazy. What are you driving when you go
2:17:27
When you go to? This so there's a, a company out
2:17:32
there International Drift Rental and he just usually has like a
2:17:39
S13 or like a chaser or something like that.
2:17:43
So it it's listen, it's fun and it like for a day, it's fun, but
2:17:47
it for me personally, like getting used to going from a
2:17:50
BMW, like going into a right hand drive, not BMW is is like
2:17:57
you're, you're kind of fucked for a while.
2:17:58
Like some people like acclimate a little bit better.
2:18:00
Like I'm not, I'm personally I'm not good at acclimating to like
2:18:03
another car that quickly. But it's also, you know,
2:18:08
Japanese cars are different than.
2:18:09
Yeah, they're, they're different, but I went to Mahon
2:18:14
like it was 2, two years ago, three years ago.
2:18:17
I like I did OK and then crashed so.
2:18:20
I think everyone crashes at Mehan when they go.
2:18:22
Granted, the crash was like, as gentle as a crash could be, but
2:18:27
it happened to, like, Pierce the gas tank.
2:18:29
And I was like, well, I'm done for the day.
2:18:31
Yeah, so I got like a dozen laps at Mehan and then that was it.
2:18:35
But. You pretty much.
2:18:36
You pretty much fell in love with Japan it seems like.
2:18:38
Yeah, no, there's, there's so much to do out there.
2:18:40
There's so much to see. There's like my, like I love
2:18:43
drifting, but I love eating. Yes.
2:18:45
And there's so much good food out there.
2:18:48
Yeah, you don't have to go like like I hate to like I don't want
2:18:53
to put down over here, but our food sucks.
2:18:56
It's like the problem here is like you have to pay so much to
2:19:00
get like a hot, not a good meal, but like a more elevated meal.
2:19:05
Like you're paying out the ass for it over here.
2:19:07
Over there you could go to the most basic like place, spend as
2:19:13
little as possible and still get like a a meal that would cost
2:19:16
you like 4 times as much over here.
2:19:18
Yeah, I feel like that's a lot of other.
2:19:20
That's like a lot of other places though, like.
2:19:22
Yeah. Anywhere but here, yeah.
2:19:26
I feel like it's like the the food, the meal, the the word
2:19:30
meal means something like else, like everywhere else.
2:19:33
It's like a meal, yeah. It's like you get utensils for
2:19:37
it sometimes here you get a meal and it's like use your hands
2:19:41
real quick, which I don't mind or like eating with your hands
2:19:44
at other, you know, other cultures.
2:19:45
You mean something else too. But I mean like, it's like a
2:19:48
quick thing. It's definitely, it's definitely
2:19:50
a culture. Thing a meal in other cultures
2:19:52
is like you sit down and enjoy it and just a meal.
2:19:54
I think they take pride too. Like other cultures, they take
2:19:56
pride in what they're doing and they want to be the best.
2:19:58
They don't care how much money they're making, often
2:20:00
necessarily. They just want it to be the
2:20:02
best. Here you don't really see that.
2:20:05
No, no, they're there. Like out there you could, you
2:20:08
could go like you can go just about anywhere and get whatever
2:20:13
version of food you want. It's probably like even if it's
2:20:16
the most basic place. Like dude, 711 over there is
2:20:19
fucking amazing. No, you could, you could, you
2:20:20
could go there have a whole meal.
2:20:22
You could have a whole dinner at 7-11 and be and be satisfied
2:20:25
with with your with your food. Here, it's like, it's not like
2:20:28
it's literally, it's like if someone here thinks they have,
2:20:30
they're making something good, they're going to charge a lot of
2:20:33
money for it, correct? That's how it is.
2:20:34
That's the difference like but yeah dude I love Japan too.
2:20:37
I only went once but I can't wait to go again.
2:20:39
It's it's right now is like a good, like it's a little bit
2:20:43
more expensive now to go to get there, but yeah, to get there.
2:20:46
But at the same time, every everything is so much less money
2:20:49
there. It kind of evens out.
2:20:51
Like I went back in March and the tickets are like, it was
2:20:56
like 1000 bucks for, for a round trip direct flight, which isn't
2:21:00
bad. No, that's not bad, but I need
2:21:02
to see where you're getting these fucking tickets from.
2:21:04
It's it's like it is weeks and like my my girl was like she's
2:21:09
she's like on our phone, like both of us are on our phone like
2:21:12
hours a day, just like looking and looking and looking.
2:21:15
And it's like, all right, this is as good as it's going to get.
2:21:17
Let's let's book it. But then like once you go out
2:21:20
there, because the it's gotten a little bit less right now, but
2:21:24
because the conversion is so good, you're saving money out
2:21:28
there like you'll go there with like 100 bucks.
2:21:31
Is it I want to is the equivalent of like 150 bucks.
2:21:33
So if you went there with like $1000 cash, you really have
2:21:36
$1500 cash. Yeah.
2:21:38
And that's and that's just I'm just talking about like
2:21:40
conversion wise like not even like if, if you actually.
2:21:45
Like the food, the food is is like the the amount of money for
2:21:49
the food is like like where it would cost us like 15 bucks at
2:21:53
McDonald's to get a meal. It would their equivalent of 15
2:21:57
bucks would not be 15 bucks. It'd be like 8 bucks for their
2:22:00
equivalent. Yeah.
2:22:01
And then like we have our money that would like convert to that.
2:22:04
I don't know. Yeah, weird illustration for
2:22:06
that, but that's like what I pictured.
2:22:08
I remember getting a water bottle.
2:22:09
It was like $0.50. Yeah, like what?
2:22:11
The I was so. I'm like.
2:22:14
Hell yeah. Say in America they.
2:22:16
They, they have these, they have these vending machines out
2:22:19
there. They're like, they're these
2:22:20
orange. It's literally just orange
2:22:21
juice. It's fresh squeezed orange juice
2:22:23
vending machine. That's crazy.
2:22:25
And you went there? I know I didn't see that.
2:22:27
There there that. That's awesome.
2:22:28
I don't really like drinking water but I love drinking fresh
2:22:31
squeezed orange juice and machine.
2:22:33
That just makes it for you. So they're like there you can
2:22:36
find like some of the, if you get out of like the busier
2:22:38
areas, like the busy areas, there's like ¥500.
2:22:40
The less busy areas is like ¥350 so you could literally get a cup
2:22:44
of fresh squeezed orange juice for ¥350 which is like a dollar.
2:22:48
Something like what you get any fresh squeezed orange juice from
2:22:52
anywhere in. In America, we they make the
2:22:54
kids go out in the side and the dust as close to you're going to
2:22:56
and you're going to work for it and it's like, and that's it
2:22:59
like like. You can go to like a place over
2:23:01
here. You'll you'll spend like 6 or 7
2:23:02
dollars, $8 on just a like a cup of orange juice.
2:23:05
It's a dollar or something out there like that.
2:23:08
That's how it is though with a lot of stuff and everything is
2:23:11
it's, it's you get more money for your money when you convert
2:23:14
it and then everything is that much less.
2:23:16
Here's the thing too, it's like, cuz me and my friends talk about
2:23:19
this and I'm like, if I go to Japan, I'm going to go to
2:23:22
Philippines instead because I, I don't know anything about Japan,
2:23:27
like having to survive out there for like 3 weeks.
2:23:29
But if I go to the Philippines for three weeks, I'm having a
2:23:32
pretty good time. Yeah.
2:23:33
And you should go to both. It's, it's just Japan just looks
2:23:38
like it's cleaner. Like it has, it has super clean.
2:23:42
It has the characteristics of like a Asian country, like
2:23:45
corner stores and like the old ladies that walk around in flip
2:23:47
flops and shit. And like the food that people
2:23:49
just sell randomly on the street.
2:23:51
Like, street food's my favorite thing.
2:23:53
But. In somewhere like the
2:23:56
Philippines, pedestrian food's probably dirty.
2:23:58
The lady's fucking going like this.
2:23:59
This fucking LPG buses just blowing by, all this pollution.
2:24:04
And then this lady's like making barbecue on the side of the
2:24:06
road. I'm eating it.
2:24:07
Yeah, but like in Japan, maybe that wouldn't happen.
2:24:10
Or like that orange juice, like somebody might be on the side of
2:24:12
the road in a little restaurant fucking squeezing orange juice
2:24:16
and shit. And it's a fresh squeezed orange
2:24:18
juice that might be lukewarm now.
2:24:19
It's cool to see every different.
2:24:20
But it's different. And like that one is clean,
2:24:23
probably because it's in a vending machine and it squeezes
2:24:24
the fucking orange juice. And then over in the
2:24:27
Philippines, it's probably like 15 pesos, which is the
2:24:30
equivalent of like $0.10 or something like that.
2:24:33
But it's still the same thing. It's just, it's like, that's
2:24:36
probably why I'd want to go to Japan.
2:24:37
Like I could experience those. Yeah, you just see it clean,
2:24:40
dude. It's a culture shock when.
2:24:41
I yeah, it's probably so different.
2:24:43
I I don't know. That's that's where I can.
2:24:44
Run. When did you go?
2:24:46
When? Yeah.
2:24:47
The last March. April.
2:24:49
Yeah, It's about the nothing. Not much has changed.
2:24:51
Shit was so cheap, dude, it was crazy.
2:24:53
It's cheap. I was like, what the fuck?
2:24:55
It was like, it was like you were playing a video game.
2:24:57
You just got transported and you had fake money and you're just
2:24:59
like, oh. OK, everything's free.
2:25:01
Their money is fucking weird. Is it paper?
2:25:03
Plastic. It's like, is this big?
2:25:05
Oh, it's. Annoying too because you got you
2:25:07
need like a change purse because there's so much change.
2:25:10
You so if I like empty it out of my pockets right now I probably
2:25:13
have like a dollar and change yeah if you empty out your
2:25:15
pockets after a day injured and you have like 20 bucks yeah
2:25:19
it's. All coins.
2:25:21
I felt like a pirate. I was like, why do I fucking
2:25:23
have all this fucking change? It is all coins.
2:25:26
It's terrible. It's cool though.
2:25:28
The ¥1 so it feels like. Like dude, but they go up like
2:25:34
that. What's the biggest coin?
2:25:36
¥500. Yeah see dude, like why do they
2:25:39
do that? Cuz the Philippines has that.
2:25:41
It's not. It's not really efficient.
2:25:43
I'm sure a lot of other Asian countries also have coin, yeah.
2:25:46
As like the thing, yeah. It's kind of cool, but it's not.
2:25:49
It doesn't. It made it.
2:25:49
Really easy to take as a kid dude.
2:25:51
Like my grandma used to have this little box of coins.
2:25:53
Bro there was. Probably like 1000 fucking.
2:25:55
Dollars in this box that I think about it, yeah, I'd fucking grab
2:25:59
a little coin real quick, get some lunch.
2:26:00
Carl, someone's saying something to you in here, they said.
2:26:02
I've been, I've been re watching the pod at work and it's been
2:26:05
sick to see Carl's growth in painting.
2:26:08
So you got some, you got some fans out.
2:26:10
Here probably actually nuts. My whole life the past couple
2:26:13
years on this podcast has changed so much.
2:26:16
Yeah, I know. It's crazy.
2:26:17
So. Fucked.
2:26:18
That's it for questions, but thank you for coming man.
2:26:21
Where? Did you come from well, well,
2:26:23
Brooklyn, bro, Like were were you there also today?
2:26:26
Yeah. So I probably took you like 4
2:26:27
years. To I, I, I, I started work early
2:26:31
today. I left.
2:26:32
I think I usually I do like 11 to 7.
2:26:34
I worked like a nine to five. OK, really.
2:26:37
I cut out at like 4:30 and I was like, we got to go.
2:26:39
Yeah, an hour. It's it's it was, I looked at
2:26:41
the thing. It was like an hour and which
2:26:43
wasn't bad. It was an hour and 20 some odd
2:26:46
minutes. So crazy to go 17 miles.
2:26:49
I know. It's like insane. 11 to 7 is a
2:26:52
sick shift. It's a good shift.
2:26:53
What the fuck? It's a good shift.
2:26:54
Then you go home right at dinner.
2:26:56
Shit, it's. A good shift.
2:26:59
Did a 10 to 4:30 and then I looked at how what time it was
2:27:05
going to get here as an hour and a half, but I came from
2:27:07
Pennsylvania. Yeah, I went 17 miles,
2:27:10
literally. 17 miles you were. Right.
2:27:13
In PA that would be 17 minutes dude.
2:27:16
Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, I hate seeing.
2:27:19
That. But you like Brooklyn, right?
2:27:21
I do, it's like I was going to say like that's like my shop.
2:27:25
If you, I'll let you guys know when I do like the the we're
2:27:28
going to have like a little get together when we put the engine
2:27:30
back in the car, we kind of like have like a little BBQ.
2:27:33
Yeah, have some friends over and that'd be cool.
2:27:35
Kind of like drop it in. That's that's the only place
2:27:37
that's worth like my actual garage is the only place that's
2:27:40
worth like looking at. Is that the one?
2:27:42
Wait, no I don't know. But I don't know if I'm thinking
2:27:45
about this wrong, but I picture a garage.
2:27:48
It's like all houses, but then one of them is a garage.
2:27:51
That's yeah, it's literally what it is.
2:27:52
It's all houses and it's a garage.
2:27:53
I have like there's AI have a lift in there and it's yeah,
2:27:57
it's like people look at it and they're like, man, that's really
2:28:00
nice. I'm like, yeah, I appreciate it.
2:28:02
But I also miss when it was just like there was nothing.
2:28:06
It was like cardboard on the floor and just, you know, me
2:28:09
wrenching on my car and like shitty old tool boxes and stuff
2:28:12
like that. You missed that.
2:28:13
I kind of miss it. Like it's, it's nice having it,
2:28:16
but it's also like it's it, it was, it was a different time
2:28:20
when I didn't have it. It was like now like looking at
2:28:23
it, I was like, why did I do that?
2:28:24
Like how did I do that? And I'm like, I got all this and
2:28:27
it's nice, but man, I just want to like I'll do a trans swap.
2:28:31
I did one recently. I just, I have the lift.
2:28:33
I did it on the floor. You just want to go.
2:28:35
You just want to feel like. Sometimes you do a trans swap on
2:28:38
the lift, I'm scared that shit's going to fall on the ground like
2:28:41
from that high unless you got the.
2:28:43
You missed the struggle. I did it, Yeah.
2:28:44
I did it on the floor. I'm like, I'm, I'm just going to
2:28:47
do it on the floor, I feel like. You need to humble yourself
2:28:50
sometimes in the simulator. Like.
2:28:51
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I still.
2:28:53
Got it, I stuff. You lay on the floor and you
2:28:54
like, like you finish something like you crossed your legs just
2:28:58
like laying. Oh yeah, I know that feeling.
2:28:59
Yeah, this is perfect. So we got you and Danny on here
2:29:03
one time too maybe? Yeah, Danny, I told him I was
2:29:05
coming here. He's like, oh, thanks for the
2:29:07
invite. We always like to do like we we
2:29:10
like, unless it's like a drift team or something, we'll do
2:29:12
that. But we like to do like
2:29:13
individual people too. Yeah.
2:29:14
No, we, we, we. I want to say we're like we're
2:29:17
A-Team. We're actually Team Bavarian
2:29:18
Cream is our actual. That's fine.
2:29:21
Fire I fuck with that and I recently.
2:29:24
Found out that like I'm like a, a friend of mine, Garrett, he
2:29:28
likes Bavarian cream doughnuts. And I was like, you know what?
2:29:30
We're team Bavarian cream. I'm like, I don't think I've
2:29:32
ever even had a Bavarian cream doughnut.
2:29:34
I don't even. I don't like Boston cream
2:29:36
doughnuts. I'm sure I wouldn't like that
2:29:37
one either. I don't.
2:29:38
I'll try it. Yeah, actually.
2:29:41
We'll bring them when you might. Like them now, I might kind of
2:29:43
want to try one right now. Like I'm kind of.
2:29:45
That's because we're starving. Yeah, I would.
2:29:47
I would eat this table. This, this is the first what we
2:29:50
we did talk about food a little bit with Japan.
2:29:52
We actually did not talk about we.
2:29:54
Didn't really talk about food that much, but I was.
2:29:56
About to in the beginning, because I said one of the first
2:29:58
things we're going to talk about is pizza.
2:30:00
They didn't talk about pizza. Because we every time it's
2:30:02
called after hours, but it's literally like right when we're
2:30:04
supposed to eat, you know? So we're all thinking.
2:30:06
Man, I wish we would. But yeah, Frankie's right, it
2:30:08
would pick up on the mics like it was just going like.
2:30:10
Yeah, I know. Sometimes one day, one day,
2:30:13
you'll break me. It would be like, it'd be like,
2:30:14
Oh yeah, let's just have some food and then it would work,
2:30:16
right? That could just be.
2:30:17
It could be like an ASMR or like Yep.
2:30:19
That could be like the Patreon portion, like dinner time or
2:30:22
something and. Just hear like a bunch of.
2:30:24
Just just ordering Panda Express like religiously every Thursday.
2:30:28
You got you got anything going on?
2:30:29
You're doing any events. I think I'm gonna this weekend
2:30:32
is ready set drift. Oh, yeah, Which I originally we
2:30:37
were gonna just go to E Town and do like a private day, but then
2:30:41
I think the track I rented out for the weekend, so we're like,
2:30:44
not that I like, listen, I love RSD, but I'm like E Town is 15
2:30:49
minutes from where I parked my car.
2:30:50
Yeah. So Poconos, two hours.
2:30:53
Bro say I I would. Definitely just yeah, but but
2:30:57
now like since that got cancelled, I was like, all
2:30:59
right, let's let's I'll probably do like Sunday, yeah, probably
2:31:02
go out there and. It should be a good time.
2:31:05
If you guys are listening to this and you want to meet Frank,
2:31:07
go say what's up. Nobody.
2:31:09
If you're in that area and you're bored, I'm going to be
2:31:11
there on Saturday. Nobody wants to meet me.
2:31:14
I don't know. I will see.
2:31:15
Dude, I'm I'm annoyed that it took me this long to like meet
2:31:18
you I. I, I mean, yeah, it's, it's
2:31:20
taken us this long to have a fucking real.
2:31:22
Conversation this is like the longest every time that this
2:31:25
happens these are the this is a conversation that we we're not
2:31:28
just going to fucking oh hey, I want to have like an hour long
2:31:30
conversation with you real quick.
2:31:31
Can you sit down like that? Doesn't.
2:31:33
Yeah, it doesn't happen anymore. So it squeezes it in pretty
2:31:36
fast. I haven't, I besides, literally
2:31:39
I just, I need, I'm like, I need an alignment for my white car
2:31:41
and I'm like, I'm just going to go to faction.
2:31:42
I was like, yeah, that's the first time I think I've seen
2:31:44
Frankie in person. Yeah.
2:31:46
And like. Dude, when I saw you here for
2:31:47
the open house I was like yo. What the fuck, dude?
2:31:50
So many people were here. That was so cool man.
2:31:52
It was a good time. I feel so thankful that
2:31:54
everyone. Set for Front St.
2:31:55
Yeah, they were not here. Not a single part of the fuck
2:31:57
were they Chris? They were at a bachelor party
2:31:59
for Joe. First of all, Alex had a BBQ the
2:32:02
other day. You were not there.
2:32:04
I know I heard you were waiting for me every time I'm a
2:32:06
Harley-Davidson drove by. I would look over.
2:32:09
I'm like, that's a twin Cam. I have an M8.
2:32:13
I don't know what that is. This is the next one after that.
2:32:15
Whatever, they sound similar, I'll turn around.
2:32:17
I don't know, that's a bolt size for me.
2:32:19
Yeah. Most by 1.5 or whatever the
2:32:22
heck, but I've turned around. That's got to be him.
2:32:25
I appreciate you looking for me, Carl.
2:32:27
Bro we were all having a blast. I I saw and Jonna drove off into
2:32:31
a fucking ravine. I don't we.
2:32:34
Didn't have to talk about that. Oh OK, never mind, but thank.
2:32:36
You Frank for? Coming on.
2:32:38
Yeah, let's get out of here. I need to eat.
2:32:40
Yeah, this has been another episode.
2:32:42
Thanks for again. Yeah, thanks for coming.
2:32:43
Coming on those 17 miles. Brutal as fuck, yeah.
2:32:47
Let's do that chop tour because I feel like I've seen a picture
2:32:49
of your shop and I think it's the one that I'm thinking of.
2:32:52
I'll show you. I have it on.
2:32:53
I'll show my Instagram. I'll show you.
2:32:54
We'll peep it, but thank you guys.
2:32:56
All right, Peace. Thank you.
2:32:58
Bye. Are we good about them?
2:33:01
You're doing that. I just, I'm dude, I'm smelling
2:33:03
myself right now and I'm like, I need to go take a shower.
2:33:05
No, not him. Is it you?
2:33:08
No, I think it's me, dude. I'm.
2:33:10
Just sweating in these pants. Wow, good podcast, good old
2:33:43
Frank. Yeah, Frank, Frank.
2:33:46
The Frank and Frank show. We should start our own podcast.
2:33:51
Yeah, that guy's really cool, really intelligent guy, huh?
2:33:53
Yeah. A lot of stuff going on.
2:33:55
A lot. Of shit going on and to be
2:33:58
honest I thought it was a lot more.
2:34:00
Turns out all the things in his bio are just all the companies
2:34:04
he supports, so that's also cool.
2:34:06
Yeah. I thought he was like part of
2:34:08
every one of those. I was founded every single one
2:34:10
of those. I'm like, Jesus Christ, this
2:34:12
guy's got a lot of shit going on.
2:34:13
Yeah, but. And then the and then the one he
2:34:16
doesn't have in there is his own company.
2:34:18
Yeah. And I'm like, come on, I.
2:34:20
Was like, wait what? Frank, you got to put your own
2:34:22
company in there. But yeah, awesome stuff.
2:34:25
He makes awesome parts. A lot of custom stuff.
2:34:28
He does custom stuff for himself, which is crazy.
2:34:32
Did that intake manifold? You know what I realized?
2:34:34
Too, When we were on the podcast I was like, oh make sure you say
2:34:36
hi to Frank this weekend. And then we didn't even release
2:34:39
it till after the event. Whoops.
2:34:43
Yeah, so the the holiday weekend got to us.
2:34:47
Yeah, so RSD the event already happened, but it'd.
2:34:49
Like a fun event. I'm sure if it I'm sure if
2:34:51
there's any other RSD events, he'll be there.
2:34:53
So look out for him and his BMW. All right, so.
2:34:59
What do we got going on, Frank? We got a lot of shit going on
2:35:01
right now. First of all, we have a a new
2:35:04
raffle going on this month for July.
2:35:07
Do you know about it yet? Yeah, you told me.
2:35:09
OK, Friday or Thursday? I wanted, I wanted to make sure
2:35:13
you were on point with that, yeah.
2:35:17
So let the people. Know.
2:35:18
Yeah. You want me to let them know?
2:35:19
Yeah, let the people know. So we're going to be giving away
2:35:21
a set of front and rear fenders for any car of your choosing.
2:35:26
Hot Dog, Forge and Labo fenders that is.
2:35:29
So any style front and rear fenders will be will be given to
2:35:36
you for absolutely nothing. Yeah, even shipped to you.
2:35:41
Now you're getting a little crazy, but this is probably
2:35:44
something we should have talked about before we went live.
2:35:49
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
2:35:50
That's how it works, right? Yeah.
2:35:52
I mean, yeah. I mean, no one else has had to
2:35:54
pay for anything yet. So I mean we did it for the seat
2:35:56
too. Shift the seat out charge.
2:36:00
If you want to get entered into this raffle, you have to buy
2:36:02
stuff on our website. That's the only that's the only
2:36:04
option. You just buy shit on the
2:36:06
website. Yeah, pretty simple.
2:36:07
Just buy something. We got a new shirt available.
2:36:09
We got 2 new shirts available. Just buy that.
2:36:12
And I think we got stickers too, which probably aren't on the
2:36:15
website yet, but they're going to be on there today.
2:36:18
Yes, Sir. And yeah, if you buy Faction
2:36:22
Motorsports merch or products, you get double entries, so that
2:36:26
would be the best way if you're just trying to win the raffle.
2:36:29
But if you need parts for your car as well, now would be a good
2:36:33
time to order them because you could end up just finishing the
2:36:35
whole exterior exterior of your car by accident.
2:36:38
Yeah, and it's a great time for this raffle as well, because we
2:36:42
just got our origin container in.
2:36:44
We're sorting through it right now.
2:36:45
Yeah, we got way too much stuff, guys.
2:36:47
There's so much stuff, we want to give it away.
2:36:49
Yeah, we just want to sorry, giving it away.
2:36:51
So you get a kit, you get a kit, you get a Fender.
2:36:54
OK, none of that, but yeah, so I did it again.
2:37:00
There, there it was. Yep.
2:37:01
Yeah, Frankie does his little thing before he starts talking
2:37:03
and he goes. He got a little twang in his.
2:37:07
Yeah, Malcolm really, really likes to listen to me talk.
2:37:11
Yeah. So I don't know what else we got
2:37:12
going. On I'm just thinking about the
2:37:16
arrow, man. We got too much arrow, man.
2:37:18
Come, if you call us and ask if we have it in stock, we're just
2:37:23
going to tell you, yeah, 'cause we got it in stock, baby.
2:37:25
Yeah, that's been happening a lot lately.
2:37:26
Somebody called me today and said, hey, do you have?
2:37:29
You said yeah. Said this is what he said.
2:37:31
You have origin label in stock. I said yeah, he said like real
2:37:35
origin label. I said as as real as it gets.
2:37:40
Yeah, straight from. The fucking he's like, does it
2:37:42
bend? I said no, it's fiberglass.
2:37:44
It cracks. No it.
2:37:47
Cracks, buddy. It shatters.
2:37:50
Yeah, yeah. Then I told him everything we
2:37:51
have in stock and he's like, Oh my God, so tempting.
2:37:55
And then he didn't show up. That's how it goes guys.
2:37:57
So if you need anything, let us know and we'll get it for you.
2:38:02
Yeah, if you want it now, but you don't have the money, tell
2:38:04
him what we got. Frank Oh, we got a firm.
2:38:06
Oh my God. Yeah, you could place an order
2:38:08
on the website, be entered to win in the raffle and not even
2:38:10
spend a dime. Yeah, until that first payment
2:38:13
hits. Till that first payment hits,
2:38:14
then you better make sure that you got your your, your.
2:38:16
Money in in line, Yeah. You got your unemployment check
2:38:21
already cashed everything you know you got to have that shit
2:38:23
ready to go. So.
2:38:24
But yeah, a firm gets you the parts you need now and you can
2:38:28
pay later. Love it I.
2:38:30
Should work for them honestly. Yeah, yeah.
2:38:33
I I'd be making some good ads for them I feel like.
2:38:37
They probably make you work now and pay you later.
2:38:43
Yeah, never mind, Fuck that company.
2:38:45
But yeah, no, we got a firm in case you guys need it.
2:38:49
Merch updates. I mean you pretty much covered
2:38:52
that shit. Yeah, if you go go on the home
2:38:55
page of the website, you'll see the newest shirt there.
2:38:58
Actually, Eddie, let's make a banner for the website for the
2:39:00
new shirts. Just a heads up too.
2:39:03
Yeah, just a heads up, Patreon listeners, we did not forget
2:39:09
about you. Your merch bundle is coming and
2:39:14
also Patreon listeners, you will be getting a heads up on all the
2:39:18
parts we have that just came in, so you'll be getting first dibs
2:39:21
on those Origin wise. Yes, Origin Labo parts that just
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came in. Our Patreon listeners will be
2:39:26
getting the list of parts, so they're going to be getting
2:39:28
first dibs. If you guys want in on our
2:39:30
Patreon we got three different tiers, $5 tier, $10 tier, $15
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tier, $15 tier. Gets you a care package every
2:39:35
time we release new merch. Yeah, yeah.
2:39:37
Sorry for the delay $15 members. We just did so well at FD and
2:39:42
Pro Bro down that weekend and we we have to re up on stuff.
2:39:44
So we didn't calculate for the the sales.
2:39:50
Guys, the shop's packed with work.
2:39:51
If you need stuff done and you need it fast, you better start
2:39:54
booking the appointments now so we can get a we probably get you
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in here like in one to two weeks.
2:40:00
Don't forget we do vapor honing, we do zinc plating, we do
2:40:02
alignments, we do suspension modifications, fabrication, we
2:40:06
do everything here so. Yes, and thank you to our
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sponsors who sponsor this podcast and make this possible.
2:40:12
Limitless Auto Fabs, Limitless Auto Fab, East Coast Drift
2:40:17
School and Chase Base. We appreciate you guys very
2:40:19
much. Also Smile Death challenge going
2:40:21
on October 3rd to 5th. Oh yes.
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At Lake Erie Speedway. Yes.
2:40:27
And if you if you tend to skip the intros, I mean the ads in
2:40:31
the beginning, go listen to the Smile Death event ad at the
2:40:34
beginning of this podcast. Yeah, that's all the all the
2:40:37
info is in there. It sounds like it's gonna be a
2:40:39
crazy, crazy event, so make sure you check that out.
2:40:43
Thanks for listening and we'll see you on the next one.
2:40:45
See ya, God Bless America.