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- 0:01Welcome to Talking FACS, what you need to know about family,
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- 0:24Hello and welcome to the Talking FACS Podcast, where we share the news you
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- 0:33I am your host, Mindy McCulley, Extension Specialist for Instructional Support
- 0:38with Family and Consumer Sciences Extension at the University of Kentucky.
- 0:43We are housed in the Martin-Gatton College of Agriculture, Food, and Environment.
- 0:48Bullying can happen at any age, but the middle school years can be the worst time. My guest, Dr.
- 0:54Kerri Ashurst, Senior Extension Specialist for Family and Relationship Development,
- 0:59is here to share with us how middle school can be a time of transition from
- 1:05childhood to adolescence, which makes this an especially ripe time for bullying. Welcome, Kerri.
- 1:13Hello. Thank you. So what is it that is so special about those middle school
- 1:19years that makes them so vulnerable to bullies and bullying?
- 1:27Right. Changes, changes, changes.
- 1:30That's exactly right. Yes. That time of middle school, the most changes are
- 1:35happening in their bodies and in their brains and emotions.
- 1:38Emotions and children experience all kinds of new social dynamics with their
- 1:44peers during those middle school years.
- 1:47And so, there's just so much happening all at once. Emotions are up and down.
- 1:53And, you know, old friends that they might have had in the elementary school
- 1:56years might change. They may make new ones as they come into middle school.
- 2:01And they might change their social circles as they enter or exit new things,
- 2:06such as a new sport or a new group that they might be a part of through school or outside of school.
- 2:12And they might feel like they don't quite fit into any groups or alliances that are being formed.
- 2:17Or even if they do, those alliances and those groups can change very quickly as well.
- 2:22So that idea of social hierarchy, I think, is a really big piece of middle school.
- 2:28And that idea that your opinions of your peers just take on so much importance during those years.
- 2:34Yeah. And not only does it peak during those years, but there are also these
- 2:40different ways that middle schoolers can be bullied.
- 2:43So what are the types of bullying that we see happening during the middle school years?
- 2:49Yeah, I think one of the biggest ones we think of immediately is just the idea
- 2:53of physical, the more outward, you know, being pushed or shoved,
- 2:56punched or tripped or even being spit on or being made to do something you don't want to do.
- 3:02You know, we see a lot of that in movies and shows even and different things.
- 3:06So that one's, I think, the most obvious and the first one we sometimes think about.
- 3:10And then verbal, which can be things like being the subject of a rumor or somebody
- 3:16taunting you or calling you names, being threatened by someone or receiving
- 3:21offensive notes or gestures from someone.
- 3:24And then another one I think we've heard a lot about in more recent years is
- 3:28cyberbullying, that idea of sending or sharing private or negative or harmful
- 3:35content about someone else,
- 3:37or posting derogatory comments or embarrassing images out there in the public
- 3:43sphere to peers and online,
- 3:45or even posting threatening or cruel commentary or videos on social media about someone. one.
- 3:53And then, you know, some of the ones we may not think about it as much can be
- 3:57things like damage, somebody damaging or vandalizing your property on purpose,
- 4:02like destroying your clothing or destroying your belongings like a textbook
- 4:07at school or dropping your phone on purpose and breaking your phone or destroying
- 4:13jewelry or other things like that.
- 4:15Damage can be another way that someone can bully.
- 4:19And then finally, relational, you know, that idea of being excluded from activities
- 4:24on purpose or isolating someone from their peers, ignoring them on purpose or
- 4:30intentionally harming their reputation.
- 4:32And unfortunately, bullying is just one way that's very common during all of
- 4:38those social years and puberty years with middle school that adolescents exclude
- 4:42peers from their groups or activities.
- 4:45Well, and as you talked through all of these different types,
- 4:50I have memories in my mind of when my children were young and when I was young,
- 4:56the thread that I kept feeling was, you know, we didn't have this cyberbullying
- 5:02to deal with that kids have to deal with today because we didn't have that online presence so much.
- 5:09We didn't have phones attached to our bodies every moment of the day that kids have today.
- 5:16So everything that we might have had to deal with is exacerbated. Very true.
- 5:23And that's sad and scary, both for parents, I'm sure. Yes, yes. Yes.
- 5:30So sometimes bullying might start slowly and then it just blossoms and blooms and grows overnight.
- 5:37So what are some of the warning signs that a middle school child might be getting
- 5:42bullied that parents need to watch out for?
- 5:45Yeah, I get this question a lot. And I also get asked the question of how many
- 5:49kids out there are being bullied.
- 5:51And in some ways, the answer at the end of the day is we just don't really know,
- 5:55right? Probably all of them in some way, right? Right?
- 5:58There's a lot of resources out there on bullying. There's a lot of things that self-report.
- 6:02And so it's people like you and me who are now older talking about,
- 6:07well, I remember when dot, dot, dot, you know, remember this happening to me.
- 6:10And even the warning signs, it's important to remember that there may be no
- 6:15warning signs at all for one child, but then there may be some very obvious
- 6:20and outward things for another child that can look differently.
- 6:23And we just don't quite always know. But some of the warning signs that can
- 6:27be more obvious are things like unexplainable injuries, destroyed clothing or electronics,
- 6:32or some things like illness symptoms, like frequent headaches or stomach aches,
- 6:37or a child frequently stating they feel sick, or even faking an illness.
- 6:41And some can have to do with changes from what's normal for that child.
- 6:46So we're not talking about norms as a middle school group overall. all.
- 6:50We're just talking about what is normal for that particular child,
- 6:53like changes in an eating habit, suddenly skipping meals or binge eating,
- 6:58difficulty sleeping, more frequent nightmares, declining grades.
- 7:02All of those can be some examples of things that are a change from what that child's norm might be.
- 7:07And then some might even be a marked change in interest, like a loss in interest
- 7:12in schoolwork with someone who had loved school before or somebody who absolutely
- 7:18loves a particular sport or hobby and suddenly wanting to quit it.
- 7:22Or even a sudden shift in friendship circles.
- 7:25And then, you know, some final warning signs I can think of,
- 7:28Mindy, might be some really worrisome ones like a child not wanting to even
- 7:32go to school at all or refusing to go to school,
- 7:35avoidance of all social situations, or a feeling of really decreased self-esteem or helplessness,
- 7:43or even some self-destructive thoughts or behaviors like like wanting to run
- 7:47away or wanting to harm themselves or talking about suicide.
- 7:51So what can adults do to help?
- 7:54I think the biggest thing that comes to mind immediately for me is just encouraging
- 7:59children to talk openly about these things, asking the questions and letting
- 8:03them take it where they want, right?
- 8:05Not being afraid to ask, because I think as adults, sometimes our own discomfort
- 8:09rubs off on our children.
- 8:11When we're uncomfortable with a topic, then we make it uncomfortable for them.
- 8:14But just encouraging them to talk very openly.
- 8:17It can be such a relief sometimes to admit out loud that something is happening and to feel supported.
- 8:23And I know one thing that I struggle
- 8:26with sometimes as a mom of a middle schooler myself is I
- 8:29want to fix and sometimes I have to remember to just
- 8:32listen and nothing more and learn what's going on and focus on them and then
- 8:39offer to help where I can but also remember that I'm not trying to fix it here
- 8:45as parents sometimes it can be frustrating when our own children won't talk to us.
- 8:52But notice I said, what can adults do to help?
- 8:55Because it is important for children to have trusted adults to talk to.
- 9:01And it might be that it's not their parent that they're talking to,
- 9:04but as long as they have an adult that they are confiding in and that parent
- 9:09is open and communicating with that other adult,
- 9:14then that is a great resource, right?
- 9:17Oh, that is such a good point because any adult can ask what can be done to
- 9:22make a child feel safe when they express that they're being bullied.
- 9:26And so that is so important. It doesn't have to be a parent. It can be any adult.
- 9:30And any adult can assure them that bullying is not their fault and not blame them for being bullied.
- 9:37And I think one thing that's important there is sometimes we might see something
- 9:41that almost looks like a child is provoking the bullying.
- 9:45It's important to remember that no one deserves to be bullied.
- 9:48Sometimes what might look like provoking can be a learned response to something
- 9:52they're already going through in their lives, or it can be an attempt to defend
- 9:56oneself or a way to get ahead of it.
- 9:59If I go ahead and provoke this person that's been bullying me into doing something,
- 10:04then I get it done and over with instead of waiting for hours or days,
- 10:08kind of walking on eggshells and wondering when it's going to happen next,
- 10:11right? worrying about how bad it's going to be.
- 10:14Exactly. And so, yeah, I think the important thing that you brought up that
- 10:18I love is that idea that anybody as an adult can do things to help.
- 10:23That can sometimes be very simple, just simply listening and being present in
- 10:27the moment, being that trusted person and not singling them out.
- 10:31I think that's important too, that sometimes we want to have them share something
- 10:36and then maybe go to another child and confront them about what's happening.
- 10:40But you don't want to single out a kid that's going through any of these experiences.
- 10:44And you also don't really want to label. You know, that's hard to not do sometimes,
- 10:49but not labeling a child as the bully or the victim.
- 10:54And it's oftentimes the bully needs that trusted adult to talk to just as much
- 10:59as the child who is being bullied.
- 11:01Because it could be that they're experiencing something that they really need
- 11:06to talk about as well. Right.
- 11:08As adults, we can help a middle school child who is being bullied develop a plan.
- 11:15What should be included in this plan?
- 11:17Sure. And I think that's kind of where we do get to the, you know,
- 11:21helping a child and listening to them non-judgmentally.
- 11:25But if they're wanting to try to come up with some strategies,
- 11:28we can help them with that personal plan that fits them.
- 11:31And it's not a cookie cutter thing there. You know, what might work for one
- 11:35child might not work for another child.
- 11:37But some ideas can include things like avoiding unsafe places,
- 11:42walking away before a bullying encounter might occur, her, making sure that
- 11:48they're with others whenever they're going to encounter someone who has bullied them.
- 11:53Even things like have them practicing remaining calm as possible,
- 11:57especially on the outside when bullying occurs, because showing emotions can
- 12:02sometimes embolden that person who is bullying them.
- 12:06And just reminding them that it's okay to ask for help.
- 12:09Helping them think through who they can go to, who are those other trusted adults
- 12:13at school or at a sport or church group or wherever they might be that they
- 12:19can find who those people are and identify them.
- 12:22And it doesn't have to be an adult sometimes either. It can be a friend or a
- 12:25classmate that they know that they can go to that they can trust and thinking through some of that.
- 12:31And then even talking with the school to discuss steps that are taken when someone
- 12:35is being bullied and what are
- 12:37some of the limitations because I think there's a lot of blame sometimes
- 12:39for schools, but a lot of times there are very strong limitations as to what
- 12:44can or cannot be done based on policies and laws out there.
- 12:47So really talking with the school and having good communication about some of that.
- 12:52And then finally, I think about documenting when things can get really bad,
- 12:56especially when you think about cyberbullying and some of the things you said
- 12:59that it's ever present these days for our youth,
- 13:02that keeping a record of what is happening and where can be important,
- 13:06including screenshots or harmful posts or content whenever possible,
- 13:11because most laws and policies note that bullying is a repeated behavior.
- 13:15And so record keeping can help to document some of it.
- 13:18And you know when something is extreme we
- 13:22might need to go and report it to the police if there's a
- 13:24potential crime or illegal behavior that has occurred and so
- 13:28helping kids to understand that it's okay to ask for help it's okay to think
- 13:33through some of this and who those trusted people are and when those unsafe
- 13:37places and situations are and
- 13:40then just blocking and getting off some of those devices sometimes too.
- 13:46Blocking or reporting, using those things that are in place with an app or a
- 13:50game, contacting a social media platform and talking to them about that.
- 13:54But learning when to unplug can be really important too.
- 13:59I love that you mentioned that because Dr. Weisenhorn, our child development
- 14:04specialist, and I have actually talked about unplugging on a previous podcast.
- 14:09So that might be something that we'll link in the show notes.
- 14:13I know that bullying can be a difficult thing to experience because,
- 14:17as we mentioned, I've lived through it with my children.
- 14:20So thank you for sharing ideas about why middle school can be an especially
- 14:25vulnerable time for our children and also for our parents.
- 14:29Because it does make us feel just a little bit weak in the knees when we think
- 14:34about what our children are going through and how we as parents have to deal with those things.
- 14:39So, these things to watch for and then also arming us with ideas for positive
- 14:47and proactive approaches, definitely going to be a great thing to put in our toolbox.
- 14:52Thank you very much for having me on this topic.
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