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Football at Four: Where do the Eagles Stand Against Other NFC Teams? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ninety seven to three. ESPN presents the Sports Bash with
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  Speaker 1: Mike Gil. It's time for Football at four powered by
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  Speaker 2: Just hungry to bring back another Lombardi to Philly.
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  Speaker 1: Ocean Casino Resort in Atlantic City. I'm Mike Gil. Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Boscher's here now. Earlier today we tried to kind of
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  Speaker 1: rank the NFC teams. Where are Philadelphia? Where is Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: in the hierarchy of the NFC? For Jeff Mosher, there's
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  Speaker 1: three weeks left right now, Jeff. The betting odds have
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles with the third shortest odds to win the NFC.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams are the favorite, followed by Seattle. Where would
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  Speaker 1: you put Philadelphia in the NFC hierarchy right now? If
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  Speaker 1: you are doing just the NFC teams.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm doing just the NFC teams, I think you
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  Speaker 3: have to have the Rams the Seahawks above there. Now listen,
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  Speaker 3: the Bears beat the Eagles one on one.
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  Speaker 2: Fair and square. Their record is better.
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  Speaker 3: They play in a very tough division as well, So
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure a lot of people feel like
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles are better than the Bears and it was
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  Speaker 3: just a bad game by the defense, but you have
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  Speaker 3: to give the Bears credit. And ordinarily I think even
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  Speaker 3: though the Eagles beat the Packers, I think those two
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  Speaker 3: teams are very close. But obviously the loss of Micah Parsons,
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  Speaker 3: if you're projecting and asking now, if they were to
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  Speaker 3: play now, how would it go. I still think the
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  Speaker 3: Packers are very good, but we'll see you could put
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  Speaker 3: them on even so I would put those three teams,
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, the Rams, and the Bears fairly ahead because
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  Speaker 3: they beat the Eagles and they've played a tough schedule too,
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  Speaker 3: and then the Eagles right under it right after that.
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  Speaker 3: So if someone wanted to argue that Packers over the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, okay, so Philadelphia played green Bay, but you
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  Speaker 1: would you say if they played again, you like green
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  Speaker 1: Bay better? Or at this point, no Micah Parsons, where
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  Speaker 1: Philly had now they played it, you know, not too
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  Speaker 1: long ago in Week number ten, Philly was ten to seven,
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  Speaker 1: not a clean game by either. But do you like
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  Speaker 1: green Bay at this stage of the season then better
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  Speaker 1: than Philly.
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  Speaker 3: I like green Bay now more than I did when
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  Speaker 3: they played Philly, because, well, Christian Watson, I know he
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  Speaker 3: got hurt last game, but as long as he's you know,
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  Speaker 3: able to play her healthy, he's He's brought a lot
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  Speaker 3: to the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Plus they got Jaden Reid back.
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  Speaker 3: And if you look ever since that game against the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: they've played some pretty good teams. They've scored a decent
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  Speaker 3: amount of points. Even in losing to the Broncos. Their
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  Speaker 3: offense I think scored twenty seven points if I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 3: So I think that they are. I think they're just
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  Speaker 3: better equipped right now to go head to head with
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles again.
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  Speaker 2: And I I guess.
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  Speaker 3: When you asked the question, Mike, I have to I
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  Speaker 3: would have to know is Lane Johnson still out?
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  Speaker 2: Is Jie and Carter's still out? You know?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying like that, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: when those guys are coming back, so it's tough. So
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  Speaker 3: if they literally had to play this weekend, I might
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  Speaker 3: favor Green Bay if they play in the playoffs. And
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  Speaker 3: you tell me Lane's back and playing well. Jille and
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  Speaker 3: Carter's back and playing well. Then that throws a different
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  Speaker 3: you know equation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no question. I mean green Bay is fine.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about this, are like, Philly has beaten
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  Speaker 1: green Bay this year, playoffs, last year, Brazil last year.
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  Speaker 1: Like you feel like at some point, green Bay is like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we're close. We've been right there, We've closed
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  Speaker 1: that gap. Say, with the Rams, it feels like you've
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  Speaker 1: beaten the Rams time after time after time, and now
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  Speaker 1: I think you had said and most people say, I
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  Speaker 1: think the Rams are better than you are, but you've
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  Speaker 1: kind of beaten them over and over. The styles make
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  Speaker 1: fights when you look at that style. Do you like
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  Speaker 1: the matchup of Philly against the Rams even though you
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  Speaker 1: think the Rams might be more of a balanced team
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? I mean, I listen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any team the Eagles would play
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  Speaker 3: where I would favor the other team.
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  Speaker 2: Seventy five, twenty five. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Eagles could beat any one of these teams.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm also not sitting here after their game against
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  Speaker 3: the Raiders and just vaulting them right back up. I
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  Speaker 3: mean they had three bad losses, and I know they
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  Speaker 3: played good teams well, at least two of them in
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  Speaker 3: the Bears and the Chargers, but the offense still isn't
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  Speaker 3: running the ball really well. And you know, they're a
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  Speaker 3: hard team to trust until they really start to feel
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  Speaker 3: like last year's team offensively with their run game and
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  Speaker 3: their offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing as we're sitting here talking right now. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know if Lane Johnson's playing. It looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: not right.
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  Speaker 3: Landon Dickerson, who did play and didn't play great, has
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  Speaker 3: been out of practice with the calf, so I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what's going on with him. Cam Jurgens just hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been Cam Jurgens. So when you start to to put
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  Speaker 3: this offensive line against playoff caliber teams and defenses, it
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  Speaker 3: gets way closer to fifty to fifty to me. Just
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  Speaker 3: like that Packers game was that was anybody's game, and
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles won it played great defense. So I would
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  Speaker 3: think can the Eagles beat the Rams, Seahawks, Packers, Bears,
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  Speaker 3: Yes they can, but I also think they can lose.
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  Speaker 1: To those And you know, I'm glad you went down
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  Speaker 1: there because it seems like regardless of where you're set up.
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  Speaker 1: It's a swergasboard at almost all seven teams. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you think about Tampa Bay. If
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  Speaker 1: they get in almost all seven teams, I think the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Carolina would be obviously the weakest of the crew.
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  Speaker 1: But the other six teams, it's gonna be a really
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  Speaker 1: tough road to get all the way through with As
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  Speaker 1: you just said, you have so many teams that are
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  Speaker 1: so comparable from one through six. Really seven with Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay gonna be squeezed in or Carolina in that four spot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think we talked about this yesterday. It's
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  Speaker 3: you're in the three seed right now for the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not the worst place to be.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, and somebody texts.
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  Speaker 3: Too, because the three seed right now matches up with
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  Speaker 3: the sixth seed, and that right now the San Francisco
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  Speaker 3: for the nine Ers team that is ten and four.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we can fairly say is somewhat of
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  Speaker 3: a paper tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Now. They have beat the Seahawks, and they have beat the.
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  Speaker 3: Rams this year. I'm not taking any credit away from
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  Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. They have went up against some
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  Speaker 3: of the best teams and beat them. That was a
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  Speaker 3: little earlier in the year, right, but they did it.
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  Speaker 3: But if you just look at them as a whole,
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  Speaker 3: you say, man, they've got tons of injuries.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like it's their year.
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  Speaker 3: And if I can face them instead of moving to
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  Speaker 3: the two seed and then having to face the seventh seed,
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  Speaker 3: which could be Green Bay, could be Chicago, could be
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  Speaker 3: the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Right if the.
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  Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks winding wind up winning the division and the
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  Speaker 3: Rams lose another game. So I mean, right now, you're
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  Speaker 3: feeling pretty good about only having a face.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the one thing would be last year you were
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  Speaker 1: the two, you got the home games, then the Lions
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  Speaker 1: lost and that got you another home game. Being the three,
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  Speaker 1: you would need a couple of upsets to get yourself
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  Speaker 1: a couple of home games. And someone texted in earlier
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles have never won an NFC Championship road game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, to have to go on the road multiple times,
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  Speaker 1: possibly that could be a big difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Worried about that as much, but I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: if you're the Eagles again, you're looking at it and
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  Speaker 3: you're like, hey, let Chicago finish with the two seed,
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  Speaker 3: have to play maybe the Packers or another or the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 3: depending on what happens as the seven watch that watch Chicago,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the pressures on Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: They've not been in this position, much.
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  Speaker 3: Like a couple of years ago after the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, when the Eagles went there for a
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  Speaker 3: playoff game and beat them behind the Trubisky.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not saying Chicago was bad.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm saying is no one expected this so quickly
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  Speaker 3: out of them, and if they lost their first round
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  Speaker 3: matchup at home, the two to seven game, nobody would
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  Speaker 3: be surprised. But then that team would go to let's
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  Speaker 3: say the seventh seed one. Then they instead would go
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  Speaker 3: play the one seed, right, because the the in the
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  Speaker 3: nflu reseed, right, And then the Eagles would play.
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  Speaker 2: A five or six at home as the three seed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, because you're counting on the five seed probably
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  Speaker 1: to win the four game.
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  Speaker 3: Probably, yes, I mean again, who knows how that shakes out,
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  Speaker 3: but it's more than I'm counting on the two seed
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  Speaker 3: to lose. So then yes, the three seed would probably
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  Speaker 3: get the four to five winner.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, you're still getting it in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you would get either Tampa or I guess right
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  Speaker 1: now it's Seattle, and Seattle would have to come across
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  Speaker 1: the country for the second week in a row. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's an interesting to bring up Seattle. Their
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  Speaker 1: offense is Sam Darnold. Do they feel very much like
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota to you from last year where Minnesota won fourteen games?
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  Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I feel like people are buying more
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  Speaker 1: into this Seattle team than they bought into Sam Arnold's
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  Speaker 1: Viking team last year.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of really good a lot of
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  Speaker 3: good similarities in that Sam having this great year. It's
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  Speaker 3: still a defensive team. You know, the Vikings defense with
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  Speaker 3: Flores was really good last year. This defense with Mike
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  Speaker 3: McDonald really good. I guess the only thing is it's
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  Speaker 3: now a year later, so Sam has now done this
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  Speaker 3: two years in a row, and it's.
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  Speaker 2: What it was.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna just choke it every single playoff? Get probably not.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it looks pretty comfortable this year as a
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  Speaker 3: as a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: They saw that, like, they don't have a great running
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  Speaker 1: game other than Smith and Jigba, they don't have a
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  Speaker 1: great array of guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's fair, It's fair. I mean, I would again, if
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  Speaker 3: you're asking me. The dream scenario for the Eagles, I
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  Speaker 3: think it is to have the three seed versus San
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  Speaker 3: Francisco in the first round and then hope that maybe
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  Speaker 3: Seattle upset Chicago in the second or the other where.
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  Speaker 3: If it's not, Seattle could be a different team, and
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  Speaker 3: then the only nightmare seed would be situation would be
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  Speaker 3: if the Rams just had a little slip up here,
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  Speaker 3: then they finished in that spot and then beat They
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  Speaker 3: beat the Bears and then came to you. Although you've
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  Speaker 3: beaten them at the link, but I mean, the Rams
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  Speaker 3: are kind of a scary team. I wouldn't let one
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  Speaker 3: lost down the stretch here make me think differently of them.
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  Speaker 1: Oddly. The one place I feel like you wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 1: going to is La because you've won in La against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams and it's not a great home field advantage
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  Speaker 1: generally out there. You know, if you went to play
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  Speaker 1: the Bears is the number two seed in Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: I go to Chicago, Man, who knows what kind of
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  Speaker 3: weather you're getting?
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  Speaker 2: The wins?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but that's it. But my point is,
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  Speaker 1: though the weather thing I don't think plays into as
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  Speaker 1: big a factor when you're playing against Philadelphia in your Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I'm just saying like, if you're going to Chicago,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, a bad weather game doesn't favor either, but
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  Speaker 3: you would kind of like your your your team, with
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  Speaker 3: all that offensive money in your offense and what your
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  Speaker 3: defense is doing, you would just kind of like to
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  Speaker 3: play in a in a good environment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because I bring this up, I say, bad weather.
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  Speaker 2: Look what bad weather.
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  Speaker 3: Did to the Rams Eagles game. I think the are
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  Speaker 3: better than the Rams last year by more than as
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  Speaker 3: more than what the final score of that game suggested,
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  Speaker 3: but the snow just messed things up for both teams.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Boscher Football A four. Now, I bring this up
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  Speaker 1: because I'm looking at your power rankings over at Phillyvoice
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  Speaker 1: dot com, and you've got one, two, three, four, five
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  Speaker 1: teams in the NFC ranked ahead of Philadelphia. You have
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia as your twelfth best team in the NFL overall,
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  Speaker 1: but you have five NFC teams ahead of them, one
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  Speaker 1: of which, by the way, San Francisco is you know
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  Speaker 1: you just said kind of paper tigersh But San fran
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  Speaker 1: you have at number ten, Chicago at number six, Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay at number five, Seattle at number three, and the
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  Speaker 1: Rams at number one. So the way that you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at it in your power rankings almost sounds like a
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  Speaker 1: short playoff run here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it could not be. I mean, the power rankings change,
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  Speaker 3: I decided. I actually weirdly had San Francisco rank pretty
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  Speaker 3: low up until like mid to like Thanksgiving, but then
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  Speaker 3: you know, they went on a three game win streak,
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  Speaker 3: They've won four in a row, and I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and that at the time it was coinciding with an
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  Speaker 3: Eagles three game losing streak.
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  Speaker 2: So I wasn't just gonna switch them.
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  Speaker 3: Because the Eagles beat the Raiders, right, I figured I
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  Speaker 3: will make them earn it over this weekend where the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles obviously have a chance to make a big move
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  Speaker 3: in beating wild well'll just continue, you know, to win
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  Speaker 3: games in beating Washington, and then I forget. I think
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  Speaker 3: San frances has to play the Colts, So even though
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  Speaker 3: the Cults are are fading fast, if they lose that
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  Speaker 3: game and the Eagles win, obviously that's going to change
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  Speaker 3: the balance of power. And of course the rams Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: have to play tomorrow night, and you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: usually knock the loser of that game too much because
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  Speaker 3: those are two elite teams going. But if it's forty
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  Speaker 3: one nothing or somebody gets you know, completely creamed, then you.
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  Speaker 2: Have to adjust sainting with the Bears Packers.
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  Speaker 3: Right, if the Bears lose again to the Packers like
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  Speaker 3: they did two weeks ago and they're on a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a slide, they're probably going to drop.
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  Speaker 1: On the flip side. Just for Jess Power rankings over
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  Speaker 1: at Philly Voice dot comy as the Rams won Denver two,
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  Speaker 1: Seattle three, New England for green Bay five, Philadelphia has
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  Speaker 1: beaten two of those teams. They did lose that game
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  Speaker 1: to Denver back in like early October. So it just
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  Speaker 1: goes to show how crowded it is. And you can
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  Speaker 1: make a case that the twelfth team could be two,
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  Speaker 1: the ninth team could be twelve. It just seems like
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  Speaker 1: it's such a wide open proposition, to which my question
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  Speaker 1: would be, what did we like from the Raider game?
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  Speaker 1: Moving forward? That could you could say, now they did
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  Speaker 1: this against the Raiders, if they can continue to and
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  Speaker 1: I think there's signs that there can they can, that
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  Speaker 1: should help them, you know, improve their standing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, obviously you like defense, and they played good defense.
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  Speaker 3: I like the fact that they didn't have they I
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  Speaker 3: think they threw one single blitz at the at the Raiders,
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  Speaker 3: so their front four got home. I do like that
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  Speaker 3: they continue to work, not as many because they didn't
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  Speaker 3: have as many dropbacks, but they worked a few of
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  Speaker 3: those past concepts that they put in against the Chargers
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  Speaker 3: into that game against the Raiders. But other than that,
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  Speaker 3: it's really hard to take anything away from it, other
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  Speaker 3: than anytime you hold the team the seventy five yards
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  Speaker 3: and I don't care if that team is owing whatever
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  Speaker 3: and has the worst roster ever assembled, that's still very impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, their offense is the one thing that showed signs
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  Speaker 1: of life. Now, let's talk a little bit last night
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  Speaker 1: during the Hard Knocks. I don't know if you saw
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  Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks. I'm going to assume you did, did not, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks guy? All right, Well, I'm not either. But
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  Speaker 1: I figured the Eagles were in it that I should
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  Speaker 1: kind of pay attention, and I so far I thought
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  Speaker 1: that all three episodes have been weak, haven't found out much.
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  Speaker 1: But last night I think was the first time you
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  Speaker 1: got a little something. And it was Saguon Barkley talking
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  Speaker 1: with Nick Sirianni and them talking about some of the
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  Speaker 1: changes that they have made in the run game and
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  Speaker 1: that Barkley's starting to see them and he thinks it's
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  Speaker 1: helping them a little bit. Are you seeing changes in
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  Speaker 1: their run game? I am.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we talked about it yesterday made out I
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  Speaker 3: don't remember. I'm sorry if I forgot to bring it up.
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  Speaker 3: But one of the things that Eagles did against the
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  Speaker 3: Raiders a little more of a lot more of was
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  Speaker 3: thirteenth personnel and that was getting Cam Lattu on the field.
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  Speaker 2: He's been sort of a fullback, sort of a tight end.
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  Speaker 3: They had four, i think four or five plays on
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  Speaker 3: their first drive alone with three tight ends, which is
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  Speaker 3: basically a statement, we're gonna put tight ends on the
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  Speaker 3: field and we're going to run the ball against you,
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  Speaker 3: which is an interesting statement for a team that's really
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  Speaker 3: struggled to run the ball.
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  Speaker 2: But you credit them for a getting Latsu on the field.
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  Speaker 2: He's a good blocker and b not just giving up,
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  Speaker 2: so that's good.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Another thing they did is more gap scheme runs as
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: opposed to zone. They are predominantly a zone running team.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Gap scheme is normally when you see alignment pulling to
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: one side and it's more hat on hat kind of
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: blocking than zone blocking, and there were including the seventeen
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: yard run that Sequan had, they were doing a little
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: more gap blocking, which is it's power football, Mike, that's
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: it's kind of old school eighties nineties. We're gonna take
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: some linemen, pull him, get him into the second level,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: and be more brutal. I guess where you're force as
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: opposed to zone blocking, where you're kind of moving guys
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: in an area at times.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So that was a nice little wrinkle as well.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: The other part of the night was there's a touchdown
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: pass from Jalen Hurts to a J. Brown to which
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: he comes over to the sideline and there's a big
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: celebration between him and Sirianni, a big embrace. They're both
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: but you who, and Sirianni says to Hurts, I like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: basically somewhere in the in the realm of hey, tell
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: like you like that play design? Right? You like that
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: play design? And it's almost like it's Jalen saying, hey,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: let's try this, let's try this, and we we did
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: what you asked and it worked out for us. Maybe
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I saw the clip of it in the entire one,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: and I almost felt it was like a big d
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: contest between one guy saying I designed that and the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: other guy saying, yeah, but I threw.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: It in the scene.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying, right, Like I couldn't figure out,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: like if that's Hurts has been saying for weeks, let
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: me try this, and then not doing it, or or
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: them adding this to the playbook and it all working
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: out and them two celebrating together because you know, there
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: has been questions in the past, I don't know about
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: as much recently about their relationship. It's the first time
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you've really seen those two kind of having a good
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: old time together. Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: That that, to me was the big takeaway, is that
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: they were having a good old time together and really
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: seemed to be enjoying it. And I hope, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: just based on some things I know and talking to people,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna make an educated us guess here that the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: design and adding these concepts are more from the coaches
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: than the quarterback.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: But the quarterback is the one who's got.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: To pull the trigger, so you give him, in my case,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: you give him more credit because that was Mike a
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: throw to Aj Brown a nice a timing throw.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: You want to bottle that up.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Where Aj Brown caught it was between the numbers, which
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: has been always a knock on Jalen, and it was
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: beautifully timed, well executed.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was a good design, but you.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Know, you got to throw it into a window there,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: and he absolutely did it. And that's two weeks in
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: a row where Jalen's thrown a pass where you just
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: want to bottle that thing up, like the DeVante passed
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: DeVante Smith in overtime against the Chargers.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You know, end result not great, but that pass beautiful.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I also like the play design in that Aj ends
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: up being open, but Goddard's also open. He runs a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: nice seam and he's open. Underneath that play, they had
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the Raiders defense very confused on who to defend where,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: so he had options and they were both options that
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he could see too. It wasn't like, hey, I got
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to check off from left, they go all the way
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to the other side of the field. There were two options,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: not in the same area, but within where I could
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: go from one down to the other. So that was
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a good play design.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So those concepts started last weekend as the chargers.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: We're talking about three level concepts or flood concepts for
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: his zone, where one not when maybe when the ball snapped,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: but ultimately all the routes converge on one side of
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: the field against his zone, making it hard to cover everybody. Now,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: last week I thought Jalen did well with it, but
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: there were a couple of times where the high low concepts.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: He took the low, which is fine, it's first down.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Take the low, it's right there. It's a checkdown somewhat
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and you move the chains. This time he went to
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the middle level concept like that Goddard I think, no No.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Aj Brown had a twenty two yarder I believe, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Goddard had also a longer gain. Where that was Jillen
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Hurts targeting the intermediary level.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Of a multi leveled route concept, which is good to see.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And the flood. And the choice is the safety has
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to choose does he want to go with the guy
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: who's flying past him or come up on the guy
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: who's underneath because.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: There's players conflict.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, So that is where the play design comes
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: back into play. Here where they make a good play.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Jalen makes a good throw and listen I mean, all
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the stuff about Jalen, this is kind of who he is.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's going to be thirty of
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: thirty five or three hundred and forty yards every single week.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: He might do that every once in a blue moon.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And it seems that he does it right when you're
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: starting to question him. Now this week he was twelve
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of fifteen, not thirty of thirty five. But it's right
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: when you start to question him, he rules out that game,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: so you know it's in there, Like every time you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: want to question him and the offense, it's right when
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you're at the precipice of bailing on them. They do
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: this right, and that's where you're at, and.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, intro all for all this offense needs, I
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: think is to get a few little a few of
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: those a game, because I don't think that we're gonna
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: get to a point where you still you're not gonna
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: get to a point where you want Jalen Hurts dropping
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: back thirty to forty times and you expect him to
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: throw it in between the numbers and the seams, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: on most.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Of his completion.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think that they're ever going to be that
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: kind of offense, and he will be that kind of quarterback.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: But if he can give you three to four to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: five more of those per game that he was giving
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: you zero. I mean, we talk about how they won
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: the NFC Championship Game, scoring all those points without him
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: throwing a single pass between the numbers, which is almost
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: hard to believe, right, And even in the Super Bowl
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: he may have only thrown one or two.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But you knew that that's not sustainable, especially if you
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: don't have a great run game to compliment it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: So but all he needs is a few more We
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: don't need to, you know, transform him completely. If that
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: ever happened, that'd be great, But I don't think you're
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: that's ever going to be the case.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: All right, Washingt did on Saturday, they win, they win
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the division, so a win seals of Division Dallas would
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: be eliminated. Then you're playing for seeding down the stretch
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: should be wild. You got Rams Seahawks tomorrow night, big
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: game in the AFC West, A lot of big games
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: over the final three weeks of the season here and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: of course we'll have it for you here on Football
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: at four on the Sports Past Live on ninety seven
• 22:19
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• 22:21
  Speaker 1: again until January.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Holidays.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You do the same. I'll catch up with you soon.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Take care, Ho ho ho, Jeff Boscher, everybody from the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds podcast, Phillyvoice dot Com. I think that's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the last time I'll be talking to Mosher. Tomorrow is
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: my last day on the air for the rest of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the year. I will be back on January the fifth,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: after tomorrow show, but we got to till five o'clock tonight.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And of course on the other side when we come back.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Kean Myers, who covers the Raiders, I want to hear
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: what he had to say about that Raider game. Was
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: he impressed with Philadelphia? Does he say, oh, it's just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the Raiders look at Philadelphia and say no, no, no,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that was an ass weapon. We'll talk to q Myers
• 23:05
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• 23:10
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