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The Episode Where You Skip Ahead · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largen or Drawn Collider podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the peky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always
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Speaker 1: is the amazing and spooky Jonathan Streak. Hi, Ariel, you're back.
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Speaker 1: I am back, and you're back, and my back is back.
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Speaker 1: That's that was. That was the back that I was
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Speaker 1: really referencing it. You're back. Uh, let Ariel, why don't
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Speaker 1: you explain what happened to you? This is this obviously
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Speaker 1: where we skipped a week. We did not intend to
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Speaker 1: skip a week. We originally were hoping to record last
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Speaker 1: week and then we were kind of hoping to get
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Speaker 1: earlier this week. But there were extenuating circumstances this time,
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Speaker 1: not even technical that set us back. I mean technically
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Speaker 1: it's technical. Cole. I I threw out my back. Um.
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Speaker 1: I basically ended up having like a giant Charlie horse
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Speaker 1: across my back for a week. Um. Yeah, you have
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Speaker 1: to understand that Aerial in her spare time, wrestles bulls,
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Speaker 1: and while she was wrestling a bull, she twisted her
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Speaker 1: back in a in a weird way as she was
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Speaker 1: lifting her arms in triumph, she had already beaten the
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Speaker 1: bull and she's lifting up her arms and that's when
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Speaker 1: you know it Just it's a crazy, freaking nature thing.
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Speaker 1: One stopped telling people about my secret superhero life and
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Speaker 1: to actually now, I wouldn't as a superhero. I don't
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Speaker 1: think i'd wrestle bulls unless someone was in danger. But too,
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Speaker 1: that's way better than what actually happened. So can we
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Speaker 1: just say that that's the truth. Sure, as far as
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Speaker 1: I am concerned from this point forward, and with my
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Speaker 1: memory being what it is, that is the true story. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm better now, um it. And uh, I'm
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Speaker 1: sad though, because there was so much ridiculous news the
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Speaker 1: past cup all the weeks that we wanted to chat about.
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Speaker 1: Um yeah, and there was some stuff that you know,
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Speaker 1: it was kind of a bummer that we felt like
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Speaker 1: we should chat about, but wasn't fun like things like
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Speaker 1: G four TV. Uh, you know, it came back and
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Speaker 1: then it died again. It was it was kind of
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Speaker 1: unceremoniously shut down. And then there's this ongoing issue over
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Speaker 1: at Rooster Teeth Productions. And I'm a big fan of
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Speaker 1: a lot of the folks over at Rooster Teeth, So
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Speaker 1: that stuff has been really distressing, so we weren't really
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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. But there were other things that
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Speaker 1: we were going to chat about, like there was a
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Speaker 1: new trailer from Matilda, there was a story stuff about
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Speaker 1: the Christmas Story sequel, like, but some of that news
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Speaker 1: definitely feel stale. So we're gonna we're gonna focus on
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Speaker 1: arguably slightly less stale news this week and until we
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Speaker 1: get to the end of the episode, because there's just
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Speaker 1: a couple of things we just have to talk about.
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Speaker 1: But the first thing we're going to talk about is
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Speaker 1: pretty new, and that is that we got to see
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Speaker 1: Jody Whittaker regenerate out of her role as Doctor Who.
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Speaker 1: And spoiler alert if you have not seen the special,
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Speaker 1: because we're gonna talk about who is gonna be next,
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Speaker 1: So if you don't want to hear, skip ahead. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think we've given you enough time to skip ahead.
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Speaker 1: So she regenerated into David Tennants. So for anybody who
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Speaker 1: doesn't know, David Tennant was also the tenth Doctor Um
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Speaker 1: and I don't know, a bunch of people found this
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Speaker 1: really surprising. I don't think that I did simply because
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Speaker 1: we knew that he was showing up already, like it
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Speaker 1: was old news that David Tennant was going to be
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Speaker 1: in a Doctor Who's Special coming up, along with Donna
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Speaker 1: Noble and a bunch of other people. So, um, well,
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Speaker 1: that that's kind of thing happens occasionally. Because of the
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Speaker 1: time timey ymy nature of Doctor Who, you occasionally have
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Speaker 1: these stories where former incarnations of the doctor encounter one another,
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Speaker 1: or a doctor encounters the companion of a former doctor,
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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and so that's not unusual. What
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Speaker 1: is unusual is for the first time we have a
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Speaker 1: doctor having a second go like like literally being an
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Speaker 1: extra incarnation of the doctor. So the four Doctor being
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Speaker 1: the tenth Doctor is odd. And I have some theories
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Speaker 1: on why this is, and they none of them have
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Speaker 1: to do with in world fiction. It all has to
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Speaker 1: do with meta reason, and I ask those theories sure.
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Speaker 1: So my theory is that that the last couple of
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Speaker 1: seasons with Jody Whittaker, through no fault of her own,
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Speaker 1: I think she did a great job. But the last
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Speaker 1: couple of seasons I feel alienated some Doctor Who fans,
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Speaker 1: and I feel like this was one an acknowledgement that
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Speaker 1: Doctor Who had sort of lost a little bit of traction,
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Speaker 1: and two that one way to get people to come
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Speaker 1: back in droves is to bring back a former show
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Speaker 1: runner and a very very popular former doctor two act
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Speaker 1: in between. Two other choices for Doctor Who, you might argue,
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Speaker 1: are at the very least non traditional and possibly polarizing
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Speaker 1: depending upon your audience. And I think that's unfortunate. I
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Speaker 1: think I think there was a subsection of Doctor Who
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Speaker 1: fans who just found it very difficult to accept any
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Speaker 1: woman as the doctor, and I think there are other
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Speaker 1: there's another unfortunate or perhaps there's a large overlap of
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Speaker 1: Doctor Who fans who find it difficult to accept a
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Speaker 1: person of color playing the doctor, and to go straight
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Speaker 1: from woman to person of color. I think they figured
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Speaker 1: that was too big a risk, so they went with
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Speaker 1: the safe choice of bringing back one of the most
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Speaker 1: popular actors in the in the series history to kind
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Speaker 1: of act as a bookend between those two and try
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Speaker 1: and and re establish a strong base to build on.
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Speaker 1: That's my suspicion. I would hate to know that I
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Speaker 1: was right, because it means that people are terrible. Let's
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Speaker 1: hope that you aren't right. Because Doctor Who always does
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Speaker 1: stuff to make the long die hard fans happy and
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Speaker 1: call back to the to their fond remembrances. Right, Um, I,
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Speaker 1: I will say I have. I am actually very far
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Speaker 1: behind on Doctor Who. I haven't watched the latest season
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Speaker 1: at all. I don't know if I finished the first
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Speaker 1: season with Jodie Whateer. She is a phenomenal actress and
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Speaker 1: I love her portrayal of the Doctor. But in the
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Speaker 1: first season they lost me just because she and I've
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Speaker 1: talked about this before. It's so old had I'm such
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Speaker 1: a broken record, but at least for the first season,
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Speaker 1: she wasn't flawed it in any way, and like it
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Speaker 1: made it a little bit. I've been trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out why that there's me because all the other previous
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Speaker 1: doctors have big flaws, and I think that's what helps
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Speaker 1: them keeps them for being like a d O s
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Speaker 1: X Makina, you know, Um and I just maybe it
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Speaker 1: it makes it a little harder to relate to a
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Speaker 1: character who is so perfect. Um, Ariel you say that,
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Speaker 1: but you yourself are like towards perfection, So let's get
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Speaker 1: off your eye. You're so kind, um, I will say.
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Speaker 1: After after that happened, we did get a little teeny
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Speaker 1: tiny little teaser trailer for upcoming Doctor Who where we
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Speaker 1: get to see both. Uh. I know you looked up
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Speaker 1: how to pronounce his name Jonathan at one point, but
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Speaker 1: is it in Coudigatwa. It's close. Yeah. So the new
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Speaker 1: actor playing Doctor Who, which I know when they first
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Speaker 1: announced him, I was worried because I'm always a little
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Speaker 1: hesitant about super young doctors. He's only thirty, even though
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Speaker 1: Jennie Whittaker is close to my age and that's not
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Speaker 1: old either. But um, in this teaser trailer we get
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Speaker 1: to see a brief moment of him, and like I
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Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, so in UM we also get
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Speaker 1: to see Neil Patrick Harris in the teaser trailer, which
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Speaker 1: I think we knew he was he was in it,
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Speaker 1: but I completely forgot. And I'm so excited because he
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Speaker 1: kind of looks like, is it Drew from Clockwork Orange?
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Speaker 1: Is that with the oh Drew? Yeah, the drugs are
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Speaker 1: Drew just means friend, but yeah, it's just the gang,
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Speaker 1: the Gang and Clockwork Orange, like it was Alex and
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Speaker 1: his three drugs, Pete, Georgie and Dim Dim being really dim.
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Speaker 1: See that makes me want to watch Clockwork Orange. But
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Speaker 1: I know that I shouldn't know you. You Ariel, do
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Speaker 1: not watch Clockwork Orange. I was in a stage production
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Speaker 1: of Clockwork Orange. It is not the story for you,
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Speaker 1: I figured. Um. But anyhow, Doctor Who is I am?
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Speaker 1: It is on my shortlist to catch up this holiday
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Speaker 1: season and um be prepared for the new awesomeness that's
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Speaker 1: coming our way. But uh, it looks like outside of
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Speaker 1: the UK and Ireland, h if you were watching it
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Speaker 1: on HBO Max, you might have to change your streaming system. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's coming to Disney Plus, which is
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Speaker 1: an odd pairing. I would say, like, I don't. It
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Speaker 1: took me by surprise because I don't think of Disney
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Speaker 1: Plus as a video platform meant to host stuff that
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Speaker 1: comes from non Disney sources. Really, I think of Disney
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Speaker 1: Plus is being kind of an owned and operated video source.
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Speaker 1: So to hear that they're bringing over Doctor Who to
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Speaker 1: Disney Plus, that that really surprised me. Yeah. I'm not
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Speaker 1: against it though, because I feel like the kind of
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Speaker 1: storing that story telling that happens in Dr Who fits
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Speaker 1: right in with a lot of Disney stuff. Also, Disney
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Speaker 1: Plus has a lot of stuff that's like built for Hulu,
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Speaker 1: which is technically Disney, but it's not what you would
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Speaker 1: like immediately associate with Disney, you know. UM or or
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Speaker 1: they also I think we talked about recently started like
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Speaker 1: an anime division or took over an anime division, or
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Speaker 1: included anime in some way on their platform. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the details of that. Um but I'm
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Speaker 1: not against it. If this means that doctor who can
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Speaker 1: be in the World Showcase UM at Epcot, if it
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Speaker 1: isn't already, I don't know, doesn't Does this mean that
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Speaker 1: Jody would occur is now a Disney princess? I mean
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Speaker 1: maybe I feel like she belongs more in like the
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Speaker 1: tinker Bell Tinkerbell Never Never Land world than um yeah.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe standing you know, shoulder to shoulder with Merlin
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Speaker 1: from the Sword and the stuff. Yeah yeah, Wizard Wizard
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Speaker 1: is the correct choice, I think, um yeah, But you know,
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Speaker 1: I wonder I also wonder if this is like preemptive too,
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Speaker 1: since Zaslav cutting so much of um HBO Max and
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Speaker 1: yeah that if if this is preemptive to keep from
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Speaker 1: being cut from HBO Max so that they already have
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Speaker 1: a home. I don't know. That that's it. Could it
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Speaker 1: could be it could be that the licensing deal was
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Speaker 1: coming up and that as a result of cuts. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it was that, you know, Warner Brothers Discovery was willing
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Speaker 1: to let it go if it meant they didn't have
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Speaker 1: to pay licensing fees. I don't know the insides of
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Speaker 1: that deal, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was
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Speaker 1: part of it. And of course Disney has I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you know this areal. Disney has some deep pockets,
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Speaker 1: do they? I thought, like I thought they were a
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Speaker 1: little shoe string, little little fill mouse boot bootstrapped grassroots. Yeah. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean from my pocket, from my wallet alone. They've
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Speaker 1: got deep pockets from like I gotta stop going to
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Speaker 1: Disney World. Okay, oh yeah, it's it's pricey. Um. Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: But now I want a dull whip. I want a
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Speaker 1: whip to actually at my my uncle in laws ice
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Speaker 1: cream shop in Cannonsburgh, Pennsylvania, you can get dull whips
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Speaker 1: of multiple yes and their soft serve if you're in
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Speaker 1: that area. Like, they're probably not open right now because
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Speaker 1: it's fall in Pennsylvania, which is colder than where we
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Speaker 1: are in Georgia. Um. But they do open up throughout
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Speaker 1: the year and they're open all summer. Um. They have
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Speaker 1: really good soft served there's a higher like fat content
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Speaker 1: in it, and they sometimes serve ice cream cake by
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13:08
Speaker 1: geek and does a lot of geeks fear stuff. And
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we mentioned him on previous episodes anyway,
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Speaker 1: certainly certainly, um, including the one that maybe didn't get released. Anyhow,
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Speaker 1: The next thing we have to talk about is this
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Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special that's happening. That is
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Speaker 1: so much more than I anticipated it being when they
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Speaker 1: first announced it at D twenty three or or Comic
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Speaker 1: connor wherever they initially announced it. I honestly don't know
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Speaker 1: what I expected. Because you hear Guardians of the Galaxy
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Speaker 1: Holiday Special and you're thinking why because the characters don't
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Speaker 1: come across as as touchy feely, feel warmth in your heart,
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Speaker 1: except for Mantis, who is too pure for this world.
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Speaker 1: Is but but everybody else is kind of a kind
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Speaker 1: of a jerk, which is I mean, they make jokes
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Speaker 1: about that in the other movies. I won't use some
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Speaker 1: of the language that they used to describe them, but
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Speaker 1: they're not they're not great people, uh and aliens. So
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Speaker 1: seeing this where like the general premise being that they're
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Speaker 1: trying to cheer up star Lord because his heart's broken
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Speaker 1: because Gomora doesn't remember him anymore and ran off. Um,
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Speaker 1: so they're trying to recreate a Christmas thing to make
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Speaker 1: him feel better. Uh. That that alone is cute, But
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Speaker 1: then it looks like it's going to turn into a
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Speaker 1: heist movie where the thing they're going after is the
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Speaker 1: most brilliant mcguffin in all of heist movies I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: It really is. I don't even know if we should
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Speaker 1: mention it, if we should just say that you have
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Speaker 1: to go watch this trailer. Um, I mean no, we okay,
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Speaker 1: skip ahead if you haven't the Guardians of the Galaxy
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Speaker 1: skip ahead. Um, yeah, that's maybe I will call it
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Speaker 1: um that because I haven't titled it yet. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: skip ahead if you don't want. The Guardians of the
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Speaker 1: Galaxy holiday special teas are spoiled for you if you
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. But yeah, it turns out that
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Speaker 1: Drax and Mantis are on a mission to uh, let's
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Speaker 1: say invite that's the that's the polite way of putting it,
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Speaker 1: invite Kevin Bacon to their little Christmas celebration. Uh. And
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Speaker 1: the most brilliant thing I think about this teaser, and
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Speaker 1: this is tough because there are a lot of brilliant
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Speaker 1: things in it, but the most brilliant part for me
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Speaker 1: is when they do the little roll call of characters
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Speaker 1: at the end. At the very end of it, it it
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Speaker 1: says and introducing Kevin Bacon, and that made me laugh
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Speaker 1: so hard. Yeah, yeah, it's it's fantastic. Um it's it's
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Speaker 1: just so it's such a brilliant choice. I have resolutely
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Speaker 1: love it. But you know, I know you said that.
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Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit interesting because the characters are
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Speaker 1: all kind of jerky to each other, but that's not
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Speaker 1: uncommon in like Christmas movies. If you look at National
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Speaker 1: Lampoon or Christmas Story or Scrooged or even Christmas Carol.
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Speaker 1: Um there, I mean, jerky people happened at Christmas. I guess,
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Speaker 1: I just I guess just being that it's hard to
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Speaker 1: think of them, it's hard to think of them being
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Speaker 1: in a sentimental setting, you know, like, um, uh, it's
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Speaker 1: it's just it's it kind of is a stretch, But
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Speaker 1: I am willing to go there. I am sure it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be riotously entertaining. We've got James Gunn at the
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Speaker 1: helm and he has created two amazing Guardians of the
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Speaker 1: Galaxy movie so far. We've got a third one coming
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Speaker 1: up next year. Uh so yeah, I'm really looking forward
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Speaker 1: to that. Yes, and you better because that's the last
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Speaker 1: you're going to get of James Gunn, Marvel Jonathan probably
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Speaker 1: like ever. Yeah, this was a heck of a shock.
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Speaker 1: So the same day that the Guardians of the Galaxy
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Speaker 1: holiday teaser came out, we got news that Warner Brothers
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Speaker 1: Discovery has tapped James Gunn to be co CEO of
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Speaker 1: DC's Live Action Television Animation division. So James Gunn, who
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, he's directed a couple of things for DC,
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Speaker 1: already he did the Suicide Squad sequel and he did
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Speaker 1: the Peacemaker series. So were you about to say Peacekeeper? No?
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Speaker 1: So anyway, so yeah, he's he's no, he's no stranger
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Speaker 1: to d C. But yeah, now he's gonna be co
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Speaker 1: CEO along with Peter Saffron, And that is interesting. Like
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Speaker 1: I been really curious slash skeptical of how Warner Brothers
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Speaker 1: Discovery was going to get d C kind of on track.
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Speaker 1: And with James Gunn at the helm um or co Helm,
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Speaker 1: I think that is a really wise choice. I think
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Speaker 1: it means two things. One there's going to be a
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Speaker 1: more coherent approach and two it is not going to
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Speaker 1: be exactly like Marvel, because I don't think James Gunn
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Speaker 1: is interested in doing that. No. No. Um Zaslov is
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Speaker 1: very excited about this. He says that James Gunn and
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Speaker 1: Peter Zaffren Saffron have singular and complimentary talents. That's a quote, um,
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Speaker 1: And it is interesting to me because they do. They've
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Speaker 1: both done a lot of like horror type stuff, James
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Speaker 1: Gunn through like Trauma and and Slither and some others,
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Speaker 1: and then Umu Saffern through like the Nun and Annabelle
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Speaker 1: and things like that, and then, uh, they've both worked
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Speaker 1: on cheeky superhero movies. So Peter Saffren had a hand
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Speaker 1: in Aquaman and Shazam, which I would say are actually
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Speaker 1: some of the more popular things that d C has
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Speaker 1: come out with, um, just because they're more I put
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Speaker 1: them both behind The First Wonder Woman. But yeah, the
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Speaker 1: first two thirds of The First Wonder Woman, that last
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Speaker 1: thing that's that's that's definitely yes, yes, last third was
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Speaker 1: a stinker man. Um And and that's to say like
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Speaker 1: Sasam was to me, okay, like it was fun, but
19:34
Speaker 1: it was totally it was all over the place. Um
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Speaker 1: and Aquaman was fun, but it was way too long. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But maybe they'll they'll they'll pull each other each other together.
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Speaker 1: It is interesting because I'm not familiar if they've done
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Speaker 1: anything that's been like family from friendly or more heartfelt,
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Speaker 1: like maybe Guardians of Calexycret Holiday Special is the most
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Speaker 1: heartfelt thing I've seen from James Gunn. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's done other stuff. I'm just not familiar
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Speaker 1: with it. I mean, Slither Slither to me is just
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Speaker 1: a big old hug wrapped in a movie about alien
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Speaker 1: slugs that devour you from within, and like I enjoyed
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Speaker 1: The Suicide Squad the new one with James Gunn, and
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed peace Maker, Um, but they both were very
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Speaker 1: irreverent and as fun as it was. Like, if that's
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Speaker 1: the general and I'm sure I'm sure it won't be,
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Speaker 1: But if that's the general milieu for d C, like
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Speaker 1: like Snyder's d C was colorless and James Gunns DC
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Speaker 1: is going to be irreverent, but like I need a
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Speaker 1: breather from that. I'm sure they will do some nice
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Speaker 1: heartfelt stuff. But oh yeah, I don't think. I don't
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna see um it go all like wacky
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Speaker 1: James Gunn ish from this point forward. I don't think
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Speaker 1: we're gonna see a Batman film that feels like James
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Speaker 1: Gunn directed it. I don't think we're going to get that.
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Speaker 1: I think it's more about defining the vision and direction
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Speaker 1: for d C. I think that's really what we're looking
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Speaker 1: at here. UM And I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: make an audible call here Ariel, We're gonna keep all
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Speaker 1: this in the podcast. I'm making an audible call and
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Speaker 1: that I think we should piggyback onto this the Henry Cavill. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I think I think that's very wise. Um. I do also, Okay,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Henry Cavill and then I've got one
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Speaker 1: last lot before we move on. Um, which is great
21:34
Speaker 1: because my computer is deciding to freeze up and not
21:36
Speaker 1: let me look at our lineup again. Uh, which is
21:39
Speaker 1: not the end of the world at the worst. Jonathan's
21:41
Speaker 1: just gonna tell saything. Okay, so yes, so end of
21:44
Speaker 1: Black Adam, which is not getting great reviews on spoiler
21:47
Speaker 1: alert for Black Adam, don't want me here. You were
21:54
Speaker 1: launching into it before I could say anything. Uh, well,
21:58
Speaker 1: it's not a spoiler alert that Black Adam has only
22:01
Speaker 1: got like two out of it's not very high on
22:04
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes. Um, oh no, it's it's I've seen a
22:08
Speaker 1: lot of I wouldn't say that it's been trashed by critics,
22:11
Speaker 1: but I think that people said it was just kind
22:15
Speaker 1: of mediocre. I think I don't think people were saying
22:18
Speaker 1: it was terrible, but rather just like it feels like
22:21
Speaker 1: more of the same and not even the rock can
22:23
Speaker 1: really elevate it. Yeah, Like I've got I've got people
22:26
Speaker 1: I know who watched it who enjoyed it quite a lot.
22:28
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've heard a lot of like it suffered
22:30
Speaker 1: from much like a lot of previous DC needing some
22:34
Speaker 1: judicial editing. It was way too long, um at the least. Um.
22:39
Speaker 1: But there is something at the end of Black Adam. Um.
22:43
Speaker 1: Now I can see how maybe it was already a
22:45
Speaker 1: spoiler before we said skip ahead. But oh well, yeah,
22:48
Speaker 1: well forgive me. You'll never guess who showed up as Superman.
22:55
Speaker 1: James Gon showed up as Superman. Now that would be
22:59
Speaker 1: a shot. Henry Cavill, Henry Cavill. Henry Cavill returned as Superman. Um.
23:05
Speaker 1: He actually got to choose which Superman outfit he was
23:08
Speaker 1: gonna wear, so he chose the one that he wore
23:10
Speaker 1: in in uh super the first time he played Superman.
23:15
Speaker 1: He chose that particular suit, which is a suit that
23:18
Speaker 1: I absolutely hate. But hey, whatever, you know, he's got
23:21
Speaker 1: nostalgic value for him and um, uh yeah, he's He's
23:26
Speaker 1: gone on in interviews saying yeah, he's he's booked to
23:29
Speaker 1: come back and play Superman in some future DC stuff
23:34
Speaker 1: and that this was the thing that I really hooked onto.
23:38
Speaker 1: He says he looks forward to playing a joyful Superman,
23:42
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my gosh, could we get a
23:46
Speaker 1: joyful Superman movie again? That would be amazing. You know what.
23:50
Speaker 1: It almost makes me like, it almost makes me cry.
23:52
Speaker 1: This is so dumb because Superman is the most boring
23:55
Speaker 1: of all superheroes. Um, yeah, it does. It takes a
24:00
Speaker 1: special personality in a special story to bring Superman into
24:04
Speaker 1: an interesting story. And I would say, like, say, like
24:07
Speaker 1: the nineteen what was the nineteen seventy eight Superman film
24:11
Speaker 1: with Christopher Reeve, Like Christopher Reeve made that made him
24:16
Speaker 1: shine on screen, Like both his Clark Kent and his
24:19
Speaker 1: Superman were so fun to watch that it was okay
24:24
Speaker 1: that the story made no damn sense whatsoever. Gene Hackman
24:28
Speaker 1: was really fun miscast as Lex Luthor, but a lot
24:32
Speaker 1: of fun as Lex Luthor. Um, So like, like, I
24:35
Speaker 1: still love that movie, even though I recognize, like from
24:38
Speaker 1: a story perspective, it's it's real dumb. But then again,
24:43
Speaker 1: this was also the nineteen seventies and there were some
24:45
Speaker 1: real dumb stories going on in comics at the time.
24:48
Speaker 1: So um, but to see like to kind of get
24:51
Speaker 1: like maybe a hint of that same sort of spirit
24:54
Speaker 1: from those movies. I don't expect anything to be nearly
24:57
Speaker 1: as corny or sincere, although I love both those things
25:01
Speaker 1: about the Christopher Reeve Superman movie, but at least not
25:06
Speaker 1: dour and like apparently reluctant to be a hero. Yeah. Yeah,
25:12
Speaker 1: I mean so I liked I liked the very first.
25:17
Speaker 1: I liked Man of Steel. I know you didn't. Um.
25:19
Speaker 1: Not necessarily as a Superman movie, it was not a
25:22
Speaker 1: great origin story because it goes against a lot of
25:25
Speaker 1: we've talked about this and nausea, um, a lot of
25:27
Speaker 1: stuff that Superman stands for. But like as a general movie,
25:31
Speaker 1: I found it entertaining. Um, But the moments that we
25:34
Speaker 1: have seen Henry Cavill be joyful in Superman, UM, both
25:38
Speaker 1: in Justice League and in in Man of Steel, like
25:42
Speaker 1: that has been delightful. And I find myself when I
25:47
Speaker 1: found myself when I watched it going, I want more
25:50
Speaker 1: of that. So the fact that he's going to be
25:52
Speaker 1: able to do that, UM, I have full faith that
25:55
Speaker 1: he'll be able to be truly endearing as the character. Yeah.
26:01
Speaker 1: I look forward to that. And UM, I think there
26:06
Speaker 1: is a balance to be made between being kind of
26:09
Speaker 1: grim and gritty and dark and a balance to be
26:13
Speaker 1: made and being joyful, maybe even a little silly and uh.
26:19
Speaker 1: And I think once DC hits that maybe the next
26:24
Speaker 1: era of great superhero movies will be DC films, not
26:29
Speaker 1: Marvel films. Um. There are a lot of people who
26:31
Speaker 1: are kind of complaining in the direction that Marvel has
26:35
Speaker 1: been going because the most recent films and TV series
26:41
Speaker 1: in the Phase four of Marvel, a lot of them
26:45
Speaker 1: got some negative reaction, not all of them, and I
26:48
Speaker 1: mean I love some of them, but like Doctor Strange too,
26:51
Speaker 1: I was not a big fan of the Eternals. Was
26:55
Speaker 1: not for me. Um, But yeah, like we've got a
26:59
Speaker 1: couple of also could have had judicial editing. Um, yeah,
27:03
Speaker 1: the Eternal I would have completely changed the chronology of
27:07
Speaker 1: the editing of Eternals because to me, it uh, it
27:12
Speaker 1: really messed with the tension. And yeah, I have huge
27:16
Speaker 1: problems with it. But at the same time, like Marvel
27:18
Speaker 1: TV has been killing it for me, Miss Marvel, she
27:21
Speaker 1: Hulk Wan Division, Hawkeye loved it all. Um. They're definitely
27:26
Speaker 1: Marvel things I'm looking forward to. But yeah, well, what's
27:30
Speaker 1: funny is that Hawkeye is something that I saw the
27:32
Speaker 1: first time and it was like, this is okay, I
27:35
Speaker 1: much and I enjoy it way more upon reviewing it
27:38
Speaker 1: than I did when I watched it the first time.
27:40
Speaker 1: And it's largely because of uh Florence Pew, who is
27:45
Speaker 1: so good as Ash Yellow Enough. She and David Harbor
27:49
Speaker 1: are the only reasons I'm excited about. Is it Thunderbolts? Yeah,
27:54
Speaker 1: but I mean there are things about Marvel I'm excited about.
27:57
Speaker 1: I even liked with Moon Night how they balance the
28:00
Speaker 1: action in the dark with some fun, lightheartedness, so it's
28:04
Speaker 1: not to say that Marvel has completely jumped the shark. Also,
28:08
Speaker 1: the final thought I had, and if you have more thoughts,
28:10
Speaker 1: we can talk about. But this is the final thought
28:12
Speaker 1: I had. I just want to say it before I forget,
28:13
Speaker 1: which is I know I said, we're never going to
28:15
Speaker 1: get James Gunn and Marvel again, but it's not impossible.
28:18
Speaker 1: In the comics, there are Marvel d C crossovers. Thank you,
28:21
Speaker 1: I'm actually for reminding me of that great series. Um
28:27
Speaker 1: actually a game show. If you're not familiar with it,
28:29
Speaker 1: go on YouTube and search. Um. Actually, yes, I do
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Speaker 1: by Dropout TV. Friend of the show, Brennan Lee Mulligan
28:45
Speaker 1: called me up and said, Hey, Jonathan, do me a solid.
28:47
Speaker 1: Can you tell your four listeners about drop Out TV?
28:50
Speaker 1: And I said, yes, sir, readily, Well again I can.
28:53
Speaker 1: We have more than four listeners, and each and every
28:55
Speaker 1: one of you, I love you. Some of them have
28:57
Speaker 1: been reaching out lately. That has been awesome with like
29:00
Speaker 1: family news or cool stuff going on with them. I
29:03
Speaker 1: love hearing from you. You guys rock, all of you.
29:07
Speaker 1: But I'm just in a goofy move. Yes, okay, but
29:09
Speaker 1: we do have more Marvel news now that we've totally
29:11
Speaker 1: dunked on them. Yeah, you know what. And I don't
29:15
Speaker 1: mean to dunk on them because it's not like like
29:17
Speaker 1: I don't fully buy into Phase four being a misstep,
29:22
Speaker 1: like I think. I think, for one thing, they have
29:25
Speaker 1: to re establish a ground level in order to build
29:28
Speaker 1: back up again, because you can't just build on Infinity War, right,
29:33
Speaker 1: You can't have half the universe die and then come
29:37
Speaker 1: back and then say all right, we're gonna build on
29:39
Speaker 1: that and make it even bigger because you've it's like improv,
29:43
Speaker 1: right if you make the biggest choice right out of
29:46
Speaker 1: the gate, you have nowhere to go in your scene,
29:49
Speaker 1: so you have to re establish and I think they've
29:51
Speaker 1: been doing a decent job of that. But one film
29:55
Speaker 1: that both Ariel and I have been anticipating for a
29:59
Speaker 1: wild now premiered this week, that being Black Panther Wakonda Forever.
30:05
Speaker 1: And let me preface this by saying, when you get
30:10
Speaker 1: people's reactions after a world premiere, they tend to be elevated.
30:15
Speaker 1: But the reactions so far have been really um heartfelt
30:21
Speaker 1: and positive from the folks who saw the premiere. Yeah, yeah,
30:25
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Like people have tweeted about the premiere,
30:29
Speaker 1: I don't think like actual reviews are allowed to come
30:31
Speaker 1: out yet, right, I haven't seen any yet, but I've
30:36
Speaker 1: seen like the tweets and stuff that have come out
30:39
Speaker 1: where they're like, you know, a full review will follow.
30:42
Speaker 1: But here's my initial thoughts. The general consensus I get
30:46
Speaker 1: is it is very much a comic book movie, which
30:50
Speaker 1: is good. Like if it weren't a book movie, you'd
30:53
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, well that seems like a mistake. Um,
30:56
Speaker 1: But that it's very sincere and it's a fit tribute
31:00
Speaker 1: to Chadwick Boseman, who obviously you know, he passed away
31:03
Speaker 1: from colon cancer and uh, which means that the character
31:08
Speaker 1: to Challa has been retired. They decided that recasting that
31:12
Speaker 1: character would have been a mistake, which I think was
31:14
Speaker 1: the right choice. And um yeah, and that the movie
31:19
Speaker 1: is fantastic And I saw multiple multiple people say that
31:24
Speaker 1: the mid credits scene is perhaps the best one Marvel
31:30
Speaker 1: has ever done. Listen, I am so excited for this.
31:34
Speaker 1: I think Black Panther might be one of my favorite
31:36
Speaker 1: Marvel movies. Um, it is one of my favorite Marvel movies. Um.
31:42
Speaker 1: And I expected this one to be fantastic as well. Um,
31:46
Speaker 1: especially once they said Neymore was going to be in it.
31:49
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you get the original Marvel super villain nay More,
31:54
Speaker 1: who really becomes more of an anti hero sometimes villains
31:58
Speaker 1: sometimes anti hero character. But he was in the first
32:01
Speaker 1: Fantastic Four, like he was the first bad guy in
32:05
Speaker 1: the Marvel Universe's I mean, he's a jerky jerk character,
32:08
Speaker 1: but they've made him look super intriguing in the trailer.
32:11
Speaker 1: So I'm I am so excited, um to hear all
32:15
Speaker 1: of this positive review. Um yeah, I'm just I'm very
32:20
Speaker 1: excited for it. I can't wait. I feel like I'm
32:24
Speaker 1: going to have to take a box of Kleenex into
32:26
Speaker 1: the theater where the movie's gonna start. They're gonna do
32:30
Speaker 1: the little Marvel logo. They're going to have some tribute
32:32
Speaker 1: to to Chadwick Boseman in that Marvel logo, and I'm
32:34
Speaker 1: gonna cry through the entire two hours or whatever. Yeah,
32:38
Speaker 1: if they do the thing where every single character in
32:41
Speaker 1: the Marvel logo is Black Panther or t Challa, I
32:46
Speaker 1: will lose it. Yep, yep. But then you can go
32:50
Speaker 1: watch aunt Man and the Wasp Quantum Mania and um
32:54
Speaker 1: M feel better. Well, I mean, certainly Paul Rudd will
32:59
Speaker 1: be funny in it. So yeah, we got we got
33:02
Speaker 1: the trailer for ant Man and the Wasp Quantum Mania,
33:05
Speaker 1: which reintroduces the character of Kang. And if you watch
33:10
Speaker 1: the Loki miniseries, you've already been introduced to Kang, or
33:15
Speaker 1: at least one Kang, as it turns out there are
33:19
Speaker 1: multiple Kangs. Custom Yeah, so this this, this is the
33:25
Speaker 1: very teeny tiny King because he's in the Quantum realm
33:29
Speaker 1: with teeny tiny King. Can I don't I don't know
33:34
Speaker 1: anyhow what do you think of the trailer? I go ahead, No,
33:39
Speaker 1: you go ahead. Oh you're gonna say I want to hear.
33:42
Speaker 1: I was going to say, but then I realized that
33:44
Speaker 1: I have to think of think about it a bit more. Well,
33:47
Speaker 1: I I dug it. I think that going to the
33:51
Speaker 1: quantum realm, to this unusual like alien landscape is really interesting.
33:56
Speaker 1: It's kind of similar to how I felt about the
33:59
Speaker 1: idea of Doctor Strange, that these are characters and realms
34:04
Speaker 1: that are meant to be very different from our own,
34:08
Speaker 1: and that, to me is interesting to explore that kind
34:11
Speaker 1: of possibility. Um. Also, any quantum realm that has Bill
34:18
Speaker 1: Murray in it has got my attention. Yeah. Yeah, we
34:22
Speaker 1: knew that he was going to be in this, and
34:23
Speaker 1: then I completely forgotten until the trailer. So it was
34:26
Speaker 1: a happy little for me, like just a happy little reminder. Yeah.
34:30
Speaker 1: I can't even remember the character name that he's playing,
34:34
Speaker 1: but I remember I looked it up because I was like,
34:36
Speaker 1: I don't know who this is, and it turns out
34:38
Speaker 1: nobody does. Because he appeared in like three panels of
34:42
Speaker 1: a I want to say, it was a Hulk comic
34:45
Speaker 1: book and that was it. So he's like, there's not
34:48
Speaker 1: really anything about him, which is kind of a good thing.
34:51
Speaker 1: It's a blank slate and it's just whatever Bill Murray
34:54
Speaker 1: makes him into. I I know, like as we run
34:58
Speaker 1: into these eccentric trs in various Marvel films, I want
35:03
Speaker 1: to I want to have a film that has none
35:05
Speaker 1: of the heroes in it, but has people like Jeff
35:08
Speaker 1: gold Bloom, Benicio del Toro, Bill Murray. How it should
35:15
Speaker 1: have ended sort of villains lair hay bar, but with
35:20
Speaker 1: I don't even know if if I don't even know
35:22
Speaker 1: if villain Yeah, exactly, just weirdos that doesn't necessarily have
35:25
Speaker 1: to be the bad guys, but just like some of
35:27
Speaker 1: the weird because yeah, so Jeff Goldblum was playing an
35:31
Speaker 1: antagonist certainly, but he just comes across as just as
35:34
Speaker 1: eccentric as his brother, the Collector. So um yeah, I
35:39
Speaker 1: would love to see maybe like maybe a Marvel short.
35:43
Speaker 1: You remember the ones that they used to do back
35:45
Speaker 1: around the Winter Soldier time where they would do these shorts.
35:48
Speaker 1: I would love to see one of those. I would
35:50
Speaker 1: love to see that as well. Maybe maybe they could
35:53
Speaker 1: bring in agnes is unwilling husband from one division into it.
35:57
Speaker 1: Um uh, we get Quicksilver or whatever that actor's name
36:04
Speaker 1: is in the show. Imoust say it's a boner, but
36:06
Speaker 1: that's probably not correct. It was something like that. It
36:10
Speaker 1: was some really ridiculous name. Yeah, I also so. I
36:15
Speaker 1: saw the link for the trailer, and then I had
36:17
Speaker 1: a bunch of friends responding on UM on discord because
36:21
Speaker 1: I'm on a bunch of geeky discords with a bunch
36:23
Speaker 1: of people um that they're like another all c g
36:27
Speaker 1: I background movie. And I get like being tired of
36:31
Speaker 1: c g I backgrounds after all of the Star Wars
36:33
Speaker 1: and Thor and all that. But because it's the Quantum Realm,
36:37
Speaker 1: I'm it's easier for me to accept. And I think
36:42
Speaker 1: it looks pretty good, and I think it looks fun
36:44
Speaker 1: and exciting. I'm excited to see aunt Man's daughter Um
36:50
Speaker 1: step into the spotlight a little bit um and uh, yeah,
36:55
Speaker 1: it looks fun to me. I feel like, way back
36:59
Speaker 1: in the day, we've maybe the Black Night was going
37:02
Speaker 1: to show up in the Quantum Verse, but he was
37:03
Speaker 1: in Eternals, so I don't even know if that would
37:05
Speaker 1: be possible. I don't know the timeline there. I don't
37:07
Speaker 1: even want to figure it out too much. Well, he's
37:09
Speaker 1: he's also well, yeah, first of all, you can't figure
37:12
Speaker 1: out time with the quantum realm. We learned that because
37:15
Speaker 1: of Infinity War. Um. But I think the other thing
37:19
Speaker 1: to keep in mind is that that that the Night
37:25
Speaker 1: is currently apparently entangled with Blade based upon the very
37:30
Speaker 1: end of the Eternals, which I never would have gotten
37:33
Speaker 1: unless I except that I had closed captions on and
37:35
Speaker 1: it told me who was talking? Interesting? Yeah, I I
37:39
Speaker 1: looked it up. Um, I'm just gonna say I didn't
37:42
Speaker 1: recognize I didn't recognize it from the one half line
37:46
Speaker 1: that was said that I looked it up and I
37:49
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it makes me wonder, like how many
37:52
Speaker 1: people in theaters actually picked up on what character was
37:57
Speaker 1: speaking off camera because there was there wasn't even an
38:02
Speaker 1: indication there that this would be something Blade would be
38:06
Speaker 1: you know, into, or interested in or involved with. And
38:09
Speaker 1: so that was one of those moments where I said, oh,
38:12
Speaker 1: it's interesting that that was Blade. Wait. If I had
38:15
Speaker 1: just seen this in the theater instead of watching it
38:17
Speaker 1: at home, I would have left going I don't know
38:20
Speaker 1: what that was about. Yeah, yeah, quick aside, I know
38:23
Speaker 1: that we're running out of time and we have some
38:25
Speaker 1: more some more things to talk about. Uh, did you
38:27
Speaker 1: watch Werewolf by Night? I haven't seen it yet. I
38:31
Speaker 1: was going to save that for Halloween. That's what I'm
38:33
Speaker 1: doing too, But I've heard great things about it, and
38:36
Speaker 1: kind of if it is as good as I have heard,
38:38
Speaker 1: then I hope that Blade is also being also kind
38:41
Speaker 1: of a spooky character. Yeah, yeah, it's it'll be really
38:49
Speaker 1: interesting to see how Marvel treats Blade, particularly in a
38:54
Speaker 1: post morbious world. Yeah morbious. Yeah, just like because like
39:00
Speaker 1: they've already done a Marvel vampire movie, although that was
39:03
Speaker 1: Sony not mc U, and it was received so poorly
39:08
Speaker 1: that I think, even though there's no actual creative connective
39:12
Speaker 1: tissue between the two studios, that that's going to be
39:16
Speaker 1: a bit of a hurdle for them to get over.
39:18
Speaker 1: Technically they are in the same semi verse, so um. Yeah, Well,
39:24
Speaker 1: this is kind of like when you go to a
39:25
Speaker 1: family reunion and you realize the person you're talking to
39:29
Speaker 1: was married to someone else who was married to someone
39:31
Speaker 1: who was distantly related to you, and really there's no connection. Yeah,
39:35
Speaker 1: I have not. I will need a lot of help
39:41
Speaker 1: from friends if I'm going to watch more bus I
39:43
Speaker 1: haven't even tried yet. Um, but I got I'm gonna
39:48
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a lot of your pain medication if
39:50
Speaker 1: I try and watch more Bus. Look, I got through
39:52
Speaker 1: the like the way I'm Brothers D and D movie again.
39:56
Speaker 1: I say Brothers, there was one way in and I
39:58
Speaker 1: think with my with a little help from my friends,
40:03
Speaker 1: so I can maybe do Morbous two. I'm far more
40:05
Speaker 1: looking forward to Renfield with Nicholas Cage Nicholas. It was
40:09
Speaker 1: hold than I am ever watching More Vious. Yeah, I
40:15
Speaker 1: I felt like I saw everything I needed to see
40:17
Speaker 1: justin the trailer. And then I did watch several geeky
40:22
Speaker 1: reviews where they kind of tore it apart, like it
40:26
Speaker 1: became kind of a spectator sport sort of thing, and
40:31
Speaker 1: I could tell right away it wasn't gonna be my
40:33
Speaker 1: cup of tea, and I just never I never looked
40:36
Speaker 1: any further into it, just like I haven't actually watched
40:40
Speaker 1: any House of the Dragon. Neither have I. Uh, yeah,
40:47
Speaker 1: I have friends who like it. I also hear it's
40:50
Speaker 1: it's pretty gruesome at times, and which you know Game
40:55
Speaker 1: of Thrones, it kind of follows the House of the
40:57
Speaker 1: Dragon would have all the things you loved about Game
41:00
Speaker 1: of Thrones, you know, the incest and the constant murdering
41:05
Speaker 1: uh and dragons setting people on fire, the last one
41:08
Speaker 1: I do like, I do like dragons. Yeah, but you're
41:12
Speaker 1: more of, you know, a trod door bernating the peasants
41:17
Speaker 1: kind of go. That is true, do do do? But yeah.
41:22
Speaker 1: So the reason why we're mentioning House of the Dragon
41:25
Speaker 1: is that the series has the first season has concluded,
41:30
Speaker 1: and the showrunners are are preparing us for the grim
41:36
Speaker 1: reality that we're not likely to get season two before four.
41:44
Speaker 1: Has this season too been confirmed? It was confirmed before
41:49
Speaker 1: episode one. That's right. It's kind of like The Rings
41:53
Speaker 1: of Power. Those both got got greenlit for an extra
41:57
Speaker 1: season very early as they battled to become whichever the
42:01
Speaker 1: streaming series would be the most expensive ever. Yeah, which
42:06
Speaker 1: maybe it's going to still be last of us. Uh Uh.
42:10
Speaker 1: I haven't watched House of Dragon. If if there, I'm
42:15
Speaker 1: fine with it taking a year off Game of Thrones.
42:19
Speaker 1: Fans are used to waiting, so yeah, and I mean, like,
42:24
Speaker 1: to me, it's fascinating because this is a story that's
42:27
Speaker 1: set before all the events of Game of Thrones, like
42:31
Speaker 1: like generations before the Game of Thrones story happens. So
42:36
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to me that there's as big a following
42:41
Speaker 1: behind it, because you could argue, well, you you kind
42:44
Speaker 1: of know where this story ends up, because you know
42:47
Speaker 1: that the Targarians aren't in power by the time you
42:50
Speaker 1: get to the events of Game of Thrones, and you
42:53
Speaker 1: know why they're no longer in power. I mean, that's
42:55
Speaker 1: a big part of the plot at least, or a
42:58
Speaker 1: big part of the the re and why characters are
43:01
Speaker 1: in the situations there in at the beginning of the story.
43:04
Speaker 1: And so I actually think it's really neat that they
43:08
Speaker 1: were able to pull this feed off of having a
43:10
Speaker 1: prequel series that got this kind of attention, particularly as
43:15
Speaker 1: I remember seeing reviews for the first episode and they
43:17
Speaker 1: seemed lukewarm at best, but apparently things really picked up.
43:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure I will get bored at some point and
43:25
Speaker 1: watch it um, even though there's like you have season
43:28
Speaker 1: and a half of Game of Thrones I still haven't seen.
43:32
Speaker 1: You'll have to tell me because I refused. Yeah, I
43:35
Speaker 1: fell off Game of Thrones super hard because I had
43:39
Speaker 1: a fundamental disagreement with the philosophy of the story and
43:43
Speaker 1: could not reconcile that, So I don't think I'm going
43:46
Speaker 1: to be going back. I get it. I didn't expect
43:49
Speaker 1: to go back to Game of Thrones, but I did
43:51
Speaker 1: largely again because friends. But I'll tell you about that
43:54
Speaker 1: if it ever happens, if you tell me about Knock
43:57
Speaker 1: at the Cabin. Yes this, Uh, we got a trailer
44:02
Speaker 1: for a film called Knock at the Cabin, which is
44:04
Speaker 1: m Night, Shia Milan's next film. Shia Milan, of course,
44:07
Speaker 1: has had a really up and down reputation. He's mostly
44:12
Speaker 1: known for creating stories that incorporate some sort of massive
44:16
Speaker 1: twist in them, to the point where it became almost
44:19
Speaker 1: like a well, I mean not almost, it became a punchline.
44:22
Speaker 1: I mean like I think Robot Chicken used to have
44:26
Speaker 1: scenes and where they have a little figure that was
44:29
Speaker 1: supposed to be m Knight come in and say what
44:31
Speaker 1: a twist at the end of every sequence. So it
44:35
Speaker 1: definitely became a punchline. But yeah, Knock at the Cabin
44:40
Speaker 1: looks like it's a take on your classic cabin based
44:44
Speaker 1: horror story. So think of things like evil Dead. Uh,
44:49
Speaker 1: you can think of things like some of the thirteenth stuff,
44:52
Speaker 1: and the thing it makes me think of the most
44:55
Speaker 1: is Cabin in the Woods, which was kind of a
44:57
Speaker 1: deconstruction of those lines of Hard in the Woods, like
45:01
Speaker 1: a typical cabin movie. No no, but it was. Cabin
45:06
Speaker 1: in the Woods was like a deconstruction for cabin based
45:08
Speaker 1: horror movies, the same way that Scream was a deconstruction
45:12
Speaker 1: of slasher movies. Right, Like, the whole purpose is to
45:16
Speaker 1: kind of pull apart these styles of stories and examine
45:23
Speaker 1: what makes those stories work or not work in some cases,
45:27
Speaker 1: well not at the cabin reminds me a lot of
45:30
Speaker 1: Cabin in the Woods, but not from like that level.
45:33
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it's examining anything. It doesn't feel
45:36
Speaker 1: like it's picking anything apart based on the trailer. But
45:39
Speaker 1: your story is that you've got a family, mom, dad,
45:42
Speaker 1: and kid going to a cabin for a little family
45:46
Speaker 1: get family get away. Um, a stranger appears in the woods,
45:50
Speaker 1: and the strangers played by Dave Badista, So he's about
45:53
Speaker 1: the size of the trees that are around him, and
45:56
Speaker 1: he tromps up to the kid and you're you're sitting
46:00
Speaker 1: there thinking like, is this gonna be a Frankenstein's Monster
46:03
Speaker 1: moment where this little kid is just going to get
46:05
Speaker 1: absolutely murderized by Dave Battista hell power bomber through a
46:10
Speaker 1: tree or something. But no, Dave Battista's is accompanied by
46:16
Speaker 1: three other people who invade this cabin, tie up the family,
46:22
Speaker 1: and then revealed that the family is going to have
46:24
Speaker 1: to make a very terrible choice. Uh. And that's kind
46:29
Speaker 1: of what the trailer leads up to. So it's at
46:31
Speaker 1: least implying that there's going to be some kind of
46:35
Speaker 1: sacrifice here and that the whole purpose of this is
46:38
Speaker 1: to prevent the apocalypse, which if you've seen Cabin in
46:42
Speaker 1: the Woods, that's why you would see how I'm connecting
46:46
Speaker 1: it to that film. It's very similar to a premise
46:49
Speaker 1: of Cabin in the Woods. And the thing is, I
46:53
Speaker 1: don't feel like im Knight is trying to ah, trying
46:59
Speaker 1: to subvert that in anyway. This feels very straightforward. I'm
47:03
Speaker 1: sure that it will be some sort of twist, but
47:06
Speaker 1: but it feels like a very straightforward take on that concept.
47:09
Speaker 1: So as I was watching it, I'm like, Oh, this
47:11
Speaker 1: is like Kevin in the Woods, except without the subversion.
47:14
Speaker 1: I think the last movie that I watched of his
47:19
Speaker 1: that wasn't the Last Airbender. Um. Wow, Jesus with Signs.
47:27
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so that was only like the second one, right,
47:30
Speaker 1: because there was the sixth sense and then there was Signs.
47:33
Speaker 1: That Unbreakable was before Signs. Maybe I'd have to I'd
47:39
Speaker 1: have to look at the filmography. I thought Unbreakable came
47:43
Speaker 1: after Signs, but I could be wrong about that. Um. Yeah,
47:47
Speaker 1: I've seen a few. But honestly, after, I want to say,
47:53
Speaker 1: Signs automatically told me that while I found Unbreakable interesting,
47:59
Speaker 1: I don't know that actually liked it. It told me
48:02
Speaker 1: that the sixth Cents might be the one and only
48:05
Speaker 1: in night Sham a lot movie that I actually like.
48:07
Speaker 1: I watched one that was set in an elevator, and
48:10
Speaker 1: I did not like that one at all. Uh. And
48:14
Speaker 1: I haven't watched Like Old or any of the other
48:16
Speaker 1: ones that came out more recently. Oh I did watch. Um,
48:21
Speaker 1: what was the one? Was it Fastbender? Who was in it? Um?
48:25
Speaker 1: It wasn't Glass, it was it? Well, you didn't know
48:30
Speaker 1: it was a sequel to Unbreakable until the end of
48:33
Speaker 1: the movie. Oh. By the way, spoiler alert skip ahead
48:36
Speaker 1: if you don't want to know enough that we're past
48:39
Speaker 1: the spoiler window. Jonathan, don't made me feel bad. I
48:43
Speaker 1: don't I don't remember it was it Splinter or something
48:46
Speaker 1: like that. Anyway, it was that one I thought was
48:49
Speaker 1: actually quite good because of the performances. Um. But yeah,
48:53
Speaker 1: that I kind of feel like the sixth Cents was
49:00
Speaker 1: sort of the early peak of stories from him for
49:04
Speaker 1: me personally. Not I'm not like objectively saying that just
49:08
Speaker 1: peek at your first movie or your first well known movie.
49:12
Speaker 1: I'm I'm certain he made stuff before then. But yeah, well,
49:16
Speaker 1: and again that's just my own personal preference. Like, I'm
49:19
Speaker 1: sure there are people out there who absolutely love the
49:22
Speaker 1: Lady in the Water, um, but I am not one
49:26
Speaker 1: of them. The one with Marky Mark and the plants,
49:31
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, the one where you the pollens
49:35
Speaker 1: out to get you. Um yeah, speaking, I can't remember
49:41
Speaker 1: the name of that one either. Man, I'm really bad
49:43
Speaker 1: at remembering him. Night Shamlan movies. Speaking of movies that
49:46
Speaker 1: we're going to get some mixed reception, let's talk about
49:49
Speaker 1: M three gown Megan. Yes, it's a Model three generative android. Um. Yeah,
49:57
Speaker 1: so we're late to talking about this. This is one
50:00
Speaker 1: of the stories we were going to talk about last week.
50:03
Speaker 1: But I kind of wanted to talk about it anyway,
50:05
Speaker 1: because that trailer boy, haudi, did you watch it? Did?
50:09
Speaker 1: I did? Um? And how about that dancing? Why why
50:13
Speaker 1: was it there, gentlemen? Why why it wasn't? Yeah, it
50:19
Speaker 1: was disturbing, That's the thing I'm like. So, it's this
50:21
Speaker 1: story about this this girl who I think loses her family.
50:25
Speaker 1: Is that the yeah? Her? So? Yeah, she she's orphaned
50:29
Speaker 1: in a car crash. Her parents are killed in a
50:31
Speaker 1: car crash, and she is kind of hoisted off to
50:35
Speaker 1: live with her aunt, her very young aunt, yeah, who
50:39
Speaker 1: then makes her a friend. She's been her aunt's been
50:41
Speaker 1: working on like these androids, and she makes her an
50:43
Speaker 1: android friend, which is like a giant doll her size,
50:46
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit bigger, and then that doll goes
50:49
Speaker 1: that android sorry, goes evil. Um, which is it's interesting
50:54
Speaker 1: because like you can tell that it's just a person
50:56
Speaker 1: in an android gosh, but also like there's just enough
51:02
Speaker 1: of the robot design in the outfit to give you
51:07
Speaker 1: that kind of uncanny Valley experience when you look at her,
51:11
Speaker 1: especially again when she's dancing. Uh, it's kind of unsettling.
51:15
Speaker 1: There are great gifts of her dancing. In fact, I
51:19
Speaker 1: think I sent you one before you had even seen
51:21
Speaker 1: the trailer, because originally, when we're going to record last week,
51:23
Speaker 1: we were going to do a mashup of a Christmas
51:25
Speaker 1: story and Megan, I'm so sorry, and also you're welcome
51:29
Speaker 1: for not that. Maybe we'll still do it closer to
51:33
Speaker 1: Christmas time. Um, but yeah, that gift. And I'm like, Okay,
51:39
Speaker 1: now I have to watch the trailer because I have
51:40
Speaker 1: to understand that she like in talent show. No, she's
51:43
Speaker 1: just weird dancing. She's on a rampage and takes a
51:48
Speaker 1: break to do it to bust some movie. Mean, don't
51:50
Speaker 1: we all do that when we're like, you gotta you
51:52
Speaker 1: gotta shake out those rampage muscles with a little bit
51:54
Speaker 1: of dancing so that you don't like crampy. I mean,
51:56
Speaker 1: look at my back. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure
51:59
Speaker 1: that The Rock did it a lot in the film Rampage.
52:03
Speaker 1: It was so fun. It was dumb, but it was
52:06
Speaker 1: really fun, even though Okay, well you like monsters, you
52:11
Speaker 1: like big monsters, so it was made for you. I
52:14
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I was just trying to make a
52:16
Speaker 1: stupid joke. Yeah. So the other storyline that goes along
52:21
Speaker 1: with this is the idea that the the aunt tells
52:24
Speaker 1: Megan that Megan's job is to protect her niece from harm,
52:28
Speaker 1: which beyond just physical harm but also like emotional harm
52:32
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. And it appears that Megan
52:35
Speaker 1: takes that directive extremely seriously, which plays into some general
52:41
Speaker 1: fears about AI. There's a classic, you know AI worst
52:47
Speaker 1: case scenario where we build this super intelligent artificial intelligence
52:52
Speaker 1: and then we ask it to bring about world peace,
52:56
Speaker 1: and the AI determines that the only way to have
52:58
Speaker 1: world peace is to eliminate all humans, and so it
53:01
Speaker 1: goes about eradicating humanity and then there's peace. Like that's
53:05
Speaker 1: that's your classic Twilight Zone. What a twist ending? Yeah yeah, well,
53:10
Speaker 1: um that movie is coming out, so if you like
53:13
Speaker 1: that's sort of scary movie, uh, maybe it'll be for you.
53:17
Speaker 1: But I I'm done. I know that it's almost Halloween
53:21
Speaker 1: and we got to talk about scary stuff, and we will.
53:23
Speaker 1: We will end on a scary, scary note. Uh, but
53:27
Speaker 1: I want to stop talking about war and talk a
53:28
Speaker 1: little bit about love for a second, a different kind
53:32
Speaker 1: of horror. Okay, I like the way you started this,
53:38
Speaker 1: but I am not taking the ball you're gonna have
53:41
Speaker 1: to run that to the end zone your side. Okay,
53:44
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, we're getting a Barbarella reboot. Um apparently
53:50
Speaker 1: even though there's no there's no writer attached, there's no
53:53
Speaker 1: director attached, there's no producer attached, there's no one behind
53:58
Speaker 1: the scenes attached to this project. But we do apparently
54:02
Speaker 1: have an actress attached to play Barbarilla. Yes, Sydney Sweeney.
54:06
Speaker 1: I'm not super familiar with her. Really, she's on Euphoria,
54:10
Speaker 1: she's on White Lotus. Yeah, she's been in she's been
54:14
Speaker 1: a lot of recent stuff. Really. The the big thing here,
54:17
Speaker 1: the reason why we're talking about it is because why
54:20
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with Barbararella. It began as a
54:24
Speaker 1: comic book and then was adapted into a film. It
54:29
Speaker 1: was Jane Fonda who played her originally, Right, am I
54:32
Speaker 1: right about that? Yeah? So um uh. But it's from
54:37
Speaker 1: an era where, along with characters like red Sonja. I
54:41
Speaker 1: was talking to Ariel about this before we started recording.
54:44
Speaker 1: It's from an era where your female heroes were typically
54:48
Speaker 1: like pinup calendar cheesecake style characters, Like they were typically
54:55
Speaker 1: very curvy and wearing very little and you know, either
55:01
Speaker 1: it was skin tight or with lots of interesting holes
55:05
Speaker 1: in the costumes, so that it was very suggestive. So
55:10
Speaker 1: they come across as very uh, juvenile, male gaze oriented
55:16
Speaker 1: fantasy in a lot of ways. And the reason I
55:20
Speaker 1: think it's interesting that there's a Barbarrella reboot is that
55:25
Speaker 1: I feel like we are not in a climate where
55:27
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff flies, which means either they're going
55:32
Speaker 1: to try and push a retro almost farcically sexy character
55:40
Speaker 1: out there, or they're going to redefine Barbarella maker more
55:46
Speaker 1: of a uh, kick ass hero who isn't necessarily relying
55:52
Speaker 1: so heavily on sex appeal, and it will be a
55:56
Speaker 1: totally different kind of story. I have no problem with that.
56:00
Speaker 1: I do think that if this is just a way
56:02
Speaker 1: of creating more like cheesecake cinema, that I feel like
56:07
Speaker 1: we've gotten past that and it feels like a step backward. Yeah, So,
56:11
Speaker 1: like there is nothing wrong with being like if you
56:18
Speaker 1: want to be like, that's the thing, Like, we've gotten pastive.
56:20
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, we're we're in
56:22
Speaker 1: a society where it's like I you you also want
56:29
Speaker 1: to encourage the freedom to express yourself. There's nothing wrong
56:32
Speaker 1: if you want to wear a skimpily clad superhero costume.
56:35
Speaker 1: To me, though, like the story wasn't strong looking at
56:39
Speaker 1: it as an adult, because when I watched as a
56:41
Speaker 1: young person and didn't understand it, you know, I didn't
56:45
Speaker 1: know um. And I feel like Barbaralla is less of
56:49
Speaker 1: a hero and more things happened to her. And that's
56:51
Speaker 1: where I feel like, like her costumes, I don't care
56:54
Speaker 1: about I. You know, when I was young and I
56:57
Speaker 1: felt I had more of a body where I was
56:59
Speaker 1: comfortab and stuff like that, I like like, I was like,
57:01
Speaker 1: I kind of want to causeplay her. Yeah, I I
57:04
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I honestly. I also think that
57:08
Speaker 1: if someone wants to dress up in a way that
57:11
Speaker 1: they think of as being really sexy, there's nothing wrong
57:13
Speaker 1: with that. The issue I have is that the movies
57:19
Speaker 1: and the stories were typically created by men, directed by men,
57:24
Speaker 1: produced by men, putting women into these roles where it
57:30
Speaker 1: feels more like, it feels more like the entire product
57:34
Speaker 1: was designed to appeal to horny teenagers essentially, right, Like,
57:40
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like, oh this is this is a
57:44
Speaker 1: woman's voice who wants to tell a story, and she
57:48
Speaker 1: is owning her own sexuality and her own sexual appeal,
57:53
Speaker 1: and that's all part of her personality. Like, if you
57:57
Speaker 1: take it from that perspective, if you create a story
58:00
Speaker 1: with that perspective, I think it could be really interesting,
58:02
Speaker 1: Like you could do a great job with it, but
58:05
Speaker 1: you can't hand it over to a bunch of dudes
58:09
Speaker 1: who ultimately are packaging it to appeal to horny teenagers.
58:15
Speaker 1: Hey there, guys, this is editor Jonathan speaking dropping in
58:20
Speaker 1: here for a second. So when we were recording this,
58:23
Speaker 1: our little recording tool we use it failed for aerial
58:28
Speaker 1: right around this point, and we lost a bit of
58:31
Speaker 1: her audio. So I thought I would jump in and
58:34
Speaker 1: kind of patch things a bit. Before we get back
58:37
Speaker 1: into the episode, we transitioned from talking about Barbarilla to
58:42
Speaker 1: talking about the Silent Hill franchise because we got several
58:47
Speaker 1: trailers for upcoming Silent Hill games during the Silent Hill
58:52
Speaker 1: Transmission event. One of those is a remake of Silent
58:56
Speaker 1: Hills Too, and one of those is a game called
59:01
Speaker 1: Silent Hills f which is set in nineteen sixties Japan,
59:05
Speaker 1: and the trailer for that has some very beautiful visuals
59:10
Speaker 1: that then kind of get undercut by the fact that
59:12
Speaker 1: a lady loses her face, like her face peels off
59:17
Speaker 1: her face, and so then we joked about the fact
59:21
Speaker 1: that I have a new fear. Now. I never worried
59:24
Speaker 1: about my face peeling off before, but after that video,
59:28
Speaker 1: you know, just added to the crumbling teeth and being
59:32
Speaker 1: late for an exam I never studied for dreams. Okay,
59:37
Speaker 1: that kind of gets us up to speed of where
59:39
Speaker 1: we are. When we pick back up, I apologize for
59:43
Speaker 1: the loss of audio. It uh, it was something that
59:47
Speaker 1: completely surprised us. Every single time we record this, we
59:50
Speaker 1: encounter different technical issues. One of these days we're gonna
59:56
Speaker 1: have a recording session where nothing goes wrong. But it
1:00:00
Speaker 1: is not this day. Let's get back to the episode
1:00:08
Speaker 1: that you know. Um also interesting full disclosure, y'all, we
1:00:13
Speaker 1: have another technical hiccup, this time on aerial side. It's
1:00:16
Speaker 1: usually me this time on aerial side. So I'm gonna
1:00:20
Speaker 1: continue the sentence I was starting, except I forgot what
1:00:23
Speaker 1: I was saying, so so I'm winging it. But no,
1:00:26
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. There are two other games that
1:00:28
Speaker 1: were also announced, Silent Hill Townfall and Silent Hill Ascension,
1:00:32
Speaker 1: with Ascension being apparently a joint effort with j. J.
1:00:37
Speaker 1: Abrams is bad Robot games development company, so that could
1:00:43
Speaker 1: be pretty interesting too. I mean J. J. Abrams is
1:00:46
Speaker 1: particularly known for like incorporating interesting secrets and stuff. Some
1:00:52
Speaker 1: of the things he's worked on have been related to
1:00:54
Speaker 1: like alternate reality games, so maybe there'll be an a
1:00:58
Speaker 1: r G element to that that would be kind of
1:01:00
Speaker 1: neat and terrifying. Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, so a lot
1:01:04
Speaker 1: of Silent Hill news. Yeah, which have you have you played?
1:01:11
Speaker 1: I have played some of one Silent Hills title, like
1:01:16
Speaker 1: the thing is, at least for the longest time. I
1:01:20
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's still the case. But
1:01:21
Speaker 1: those were like PlayStation exclusive titles, and I was not
1:01:25
Speaker 1: a PlayStation owner. I was either a PC player or
1:01:29
Speaker 1: an Xbox player, so I missed out on especially horror titles.
1:01:34
Speaker 1: There were a lot of horror titles that came out
1:01:36
Speaker 1: just for Sony because the Japanese love their horror and
1:01:41
Speaker 1: um yeah, so I think I've only ever played part
1:01:44
Speaker 1: of one of those, and I often get them mixed
1:01:47
Speaker 1: up with the Resident Evil series. Yeah. Yeah, Silent Hill
1:01:52
Speaker 1: did a lot for creating Both Silent Hill and Resident
1:01:56
Speaker 1: Evil have done a lot for the horror survival sort
1:01:59
Speaker 1: of game genre. Um, I've never played them. I'm not
1:02:04
Speaker 1: super familiar with Silent Hill other than it's pretty much
1:02:07
Speaker 1: just you're fighting the embodiment of guilt, um is my understanding. Um,
1:02:12
Speaker 1: but these new if you like the games, these new
1:02:15
Speaker 1: ones look real pretty for for certain definitions of pretty. Yeah, yeah,
1:02:21
Speaker 1: and uh, I think like it's interesting because I think
1:02:25
Speaker 1: in general, the horror genre of video games has had
1:02:30
Speaker 1: a real renaissance over the last few years. Like we've
1:02:32
Speaker 1: seen some incredible titles, especially in the independent circle in horror.
1:02:40
Speaker 1: To this day, one of the things I want to do,
1:02:43
Speaker 1: even though the game is no longer like the new
1:02:46
Speaker 1: hot thing one of the day these days, I want
1:02:49
Speaker 1: to get a bunch of friends who have decent computers
1:02:54
Speaker 1: to uh to join up and play pasma Phobia with me.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with have talked about it? I would
1:03:02
Speaker 1: say I had a decent computer, but today I'm I'm
1:03:04
Speaker 1: kind of doubting it. Yeah, well I don't. I have
1:03:09
Speaker 1: a laptop gaming rig which is barely able to play fast.
1:03:14
Speaker 1: Before it was like a cutting edge gaming rig about
1:03:16
Speaker 1: four years ago. But man, things change in four years. Um.
1:03:20
Speaker 1: But yeah, I I would love to play some of
1:03:24
Speaker 1: those Harry games, because I actually really enjoy a good
1:03:28
Speaker 1: horror game as long as the horror is not solely
1:03:33
Speaker 1: reliant on jump scares, because those just get old after
1:03:36
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah. Yeah, Eternal Darkness is still my favorite.
1:03:40
Speaker 1: You guys know that talked about it recently. Um yeah, So, uh,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a fun one to end
1:03:48
Speaker 1: on because as soon as I was like, oh, a
1:03:51
Speaker 1: new Silent Hill video game, let me make a mistake
1:03:54
Speaker 1: and watch this trailer because it'll scare me too much,
1:03:55
Speaker 1: and then a face fell off, and then I was like,
1:03:57
Speaker 1: but wait, no, there's another silent and there's another one,
1:04:00
Speaker 1: and there's another one, and I'm like, wait, wasn't silent
1:04:03
Speaker 1: So like the way that my brain like mystery boarded
1:04:07
Speaker 1: all of this together with with the fact that someone
1:04:10
Speaker 1: had bought their domain in March, just was too funny
1:04:14
Speaker 1: not to talk about. Yeah, and uh, I mean Silent Hill,
1:04:19
Speaker 1: like you said, it was one of the titles that
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Speaker 1: really established the survival horror game genre, like that genre
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Speaker 1: wouldn't exist without Silent Hill and Resident Evil. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a It's cool to see all the sort of
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Speaker 1: work going into different creative projects around that. Um. I
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Speaker 1: do find that the overall storylines for stuff like Resident
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Speaker 1: Evil and for Silent Hill often gets so convoluted and
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Speaker 1: weird from a Western perspective. You know, it could very
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Speaker 1: well be a cultural gap on my part, but they
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Speaker 1: aem so strange that it starts to become difficult for
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Speaker 1: me to connect with those stories because they definitely get
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Speaker 1: very absurd and odd in my in my opinion that, um,
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Speaker 1: maybe that's one one drawback to them for me, but
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Speaker 1: I definitely see the amazing contributions they've made to the
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Speaker 1: horror genre in general. Yeah, me too. Well, that's all
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Speaker 1: that we are choosing to talk about this week. No,
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Speaker 1: I have one more question for you, Ariel. Oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: what's you going for as Halloween? A tomato? Good answer?
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Speaker 1: So I've got I've got a red shirt that says
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Speaker 1: tomato and then green shorts, and I'm gonna put on
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Speaker 1: like a green and red hoodie and put on some
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Speaker 1: Lake Tomato makeup. They're surprisingly little inspiration for tomato themed
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Speaker 1: makeup on the internet, um, because I'm allergic and so
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Speaker 1: it's scary. So yeah, a tomato, maybe a killer tomato,
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Speaker 1: but probably just a tomato. Enough got you? Okay? Well,
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Speaker 1: that's a that's a decent answer. Yeah, what are you going?
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Speaker 1: I'm going as a as A as as Mr Crabs
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Speaker 1: and SpongeBob because I'm allergic to shellfish. That's awesome. That's
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Speaker 1: I hope that's true. It's absolutely not true, but dang it,
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything because I'm old and boring. Look.
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Speaker 1: I vaguely thought about going as the color out of
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Speaker 1: my Futship Hi dyed shirt, but they don't quite fit.
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