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Special Episode: New Artists/New Crimes Revealed · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. Wait any way,
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Speaker 1: what's happening here? What happened to the melotron? What are
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Speaker 1: we doing? Why is this sounding different? Well, listen, your
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Speaker 1: ears are not playing games with you. We are doing
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Speaker 1: things a little different today. We're bringing you a special
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Speaker 1: episode a Disgraceland, a sneak peek behind the scenes, a
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Speaker 1: preview of our upcoming season of episodes for you guys,
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Speaker 1: the faithful Disgraceland listener, the disco, and a primer on
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Speaker 1: all things Disgraceland. What this show is, what exactly a
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Speaker 1: melotron is? For our new listeners, which eight years into
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Speaker 1: this we are grateful to still be welcoming. So, as
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Speaker 1: you know this show, Disgraceland, it may have true crime
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Speaker 1: at its core, but it's also about great music, unlike
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Speaker 1: that music I've played for you at the top of
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Speaker 1: the show. That wasn't great music that way, A preset
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Speaker 1: loop from my melotron called Jerry Lee's Dead Wife MK two.
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Speaker 1: I played you that loop because I can't afford the
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Speaker 1: rights to God's Plan by Drake. And why would I
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Speaker 1: play you that specific slice of North of the Border cheese?
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Speaker 1: Could I afford it because that was the number one
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Speaker 1: song in America on February thirteenth, twenty eighteen, and that
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Speaker 1: was the day that we released the very first episode
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Speaker 1: of this podcast, the disgrace Land Podcast, an event that
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Speaker 1: introduced a new concept to the podcasting game, The Chocolate
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Speaker 1: and the Peanut Butter, the Fire and the Rain, Snoop
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Speaker 1: and Martha Martin and Lewis Lewis and Clark Kent, State
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Speaker 1: and state of the Art, State of Mind, State of Grace, Disgrace,
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Speaker 1: Disgrace Land. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking about the
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Speaker 1: now unfuck withable combo of music and true crime. Because
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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Brennan, and this, if you haven't been able
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Speaker 1: to tell, is a special episode of Disgraceland. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: as inspired as I've ever been creatively, guys. And it's
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Speaker 1: because of the new episodes that we have coming up
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Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, actually throughout the year, but
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Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, especially just because I love
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Speaker 1: the musicians we're covering, these iconic, mythical, legendary artists. That's
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Speaker 1: not the only reason. It's also because these are some
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Speaker 1: of the more true crime stories that we've uncracked. The
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Speaker 1: first two. Specifically, I'm talking about new Disgraceland episodes on
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Speaker 1: Patti Smith and Grace Jones, and then also a couple
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Speaker 1: more episodes. One that delves into the insane ascent into superstardom,
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Speaker 1: followed by an acute descent into addiction with depeche Mode,
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Speaker 1: followed up by a dive into what really happened the
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Speaker 1: night Taylor Hawkins died and a look into who Dave
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Speaker 1: Groll really is. Dudes had a pretty shit couple of years,
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Speaker 1: that whole baby Mama thing on top of the loss
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Speaker 1: of Taylor. We get into that story in our Foo
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Speaker 1: Fighters episode that'll be here soon as well. So to
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Speaker 1: the discos. You know there will be revealing facts in
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Speaker 1: these stories, revelatory tidbits unearthed from our research, presented with
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Speaker 1: edge of your seat storytelling that you just can't get
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Speaker 1: anywhere else, and all wrapped up in our award winning
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Speaker 1: sound design and scoring per usual for the new listeners.
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Speaker 1: If any of this sounds over the top, I assure
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Speaker 1: you that it's not until it is. Disgrace slams music
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Speaker 1: and true crime brand of storytelling isn't sensational, but it
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Speaker 1: is dramatic. Af Everything is based on deep research and
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Speaker 1: is properly sourced, often from first hand accounts detailed in
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Speaker 1: the autobiographies of these artists, but that only accounts for
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Speaker 1: part of the drama. The drama mostly comes from the
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Speaker 1: true crime aspect of these stories. I've been saying this
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Speaker 1: for years. Most musicians, most rock stars, hip hop stars,
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Speaker 1: country artists, so old jazz hads, whatever, punk rock dudes.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what genre or from what scene they come
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Speaker 1: or came. Most musicians they're more like feral, narcissistic animals
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Speaker 1: than they are functioning members of society. And this is
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Speaker 1: exactly what makes them so damn interesting. I know, because
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Speaker 1: it used to be one of them, But I'm not anymore.
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Speaker 1: I'm just a middle aged dad who reads a ton
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Speaker 1: and hangs out with his wife and kids. But back
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Speaker 1: to my point, musicians they're not like us. They've seen
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Speaker 1: and done things we never will, and they've had things
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Speaker 1: happen to them that, thankfully will never happen to us.
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Speaker 1: What things you ask crimes true crime? When we look
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Speaker 1: at the biographies of these rock stars through the lens
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Speaker 1: of true crime, which is all we do here, through
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Speaker 1: the lens of both the crimes they've committed and the
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Speaker 1: crime that have happened to them. Then we get a
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Speaker 1: peek into just how dramatic and bad shit crazy these
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Speaker 1: artists their lives are, and it makes for wild storytelling,
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Speaker 1: storytelling about rock stars with crimes involving not just murder,
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Speaker 1: but cannibalism, the occult drug trafficking and everything else you
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Speaker 1: can imagine. But back to the research. Deep research has
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Speaker 1: always been at the core of disgrace Land, and the
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Speaker 1: result is often not just bananas stories like the story
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Speaker 1: of big Lyrich, the hip hop star who ate his roommate,
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Speaker 1: or revealing facts like the UK crime wave that the
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Speaker 1: Beastie Boys inadvertently inspired. But a lot of times the
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Speaker 1: result is truths, hidden truths that are uncovered, Truths that
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Speaker 1: disrupt the popular narratives about our favorite artists that we've
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Speaker 1: been forced to accept, but that have been wrong all along.
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Speaker 1: Michael Hutchins from Inexcess did not die from auto erotic
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Speaker 1: asphyxiation like we were told. Charles Manson didn't kill because
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Speaker 1: he was obsessed with the Beatles. In fact, the entire
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Speaker 1: Helter Skelter true crime saga is mostly BS and Mama
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Speaker 1: Cass Elliot didn't die from choking on a ham sandwich.
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Speaker 1: Let's chill on the historical fact shaming. Okay, this age
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Speaker 1: we're in, this age of artificial intelligence, this torrent of information,
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Speaker 1: this information war that's going on right now. Part of
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Speaker 1: what we do here is we try to get to
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Speaker 1: the truth of the story, or at least to the
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Speaker 1: most interesting version of the story. And I love it.
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Speaker 1: I've loved it since the beginning. I've been doing this
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Speaker 1: for eight years now, and these next stories we got
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Speaker 1: coming up have me as excited as anything that we've
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Speaker 1: done today. These stories aren't just true crime there of course,
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Speaker 1: Like I just said, they're filled with amazing facts that
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland has come to be known for. Discoes know these facts,
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Speaker 1: the ones I mentioned earlier about Michael Hutchins and Charles
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Speaker 1: Manson and Cass Elliott and a bunch of others, and
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Speaker 1: new listeners every day are learning these facts as well,
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Speaker 1: because this is the podcast for the musically obsessed and
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Speaker 1: the true crime heads, the outsiders, the independent thinkers, the
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Speaker 1: ones who know that the best history is the history
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Speaker 1: they try to bury, the stories they didn't want told,
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Speaker 1: and the kind that you're gonna end up telling someone else.
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Speaker 1: All Right, listen, I'm gonna take a quick break and
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Speaker 1: i'll be back in a flash with more on our
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Speaker 1: upcoming Patti Smith episode, a reveal of some of the
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Speaker 1: other artists that we're going to be covering in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six, and I'll look back into some of the
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Speaker 1: best stories from our archive of over two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty episodes on different musicians, as well as a little
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Speaker 1: bit of history from Disgraceland, how we got our start,
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Speaker 1: how we all came together, and where we're taking this
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Speaker 1: in the future. I'll be back in a flash. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So sometime back around twenty seventeen, I was working on
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Speaker 1: an ad agent. See if you can believe that. As
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Speaker 1: a music supervisor, basically you know the music that you
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Speaker 1: hear in commercials, Well, there are people who source and
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Speaker 1: arrange for that music to be in those commercials. And
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Speaker 1: I was one of those dudes for a minute sort of.
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Speaker 1: I say sort of because I was really bad at
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Speaker 1: my job and I knew that I was going to
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Speaker 1: get fired and I was thinking about what I was
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Speaker 1: going to do for work to support my family. This
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Speaker 1: is a time when I had gotten, like a lot
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Speaker 1: of people super into podcasts. I was really into what
8:29
Speaker 1: was sort of the first generation of elevated storytelling in podcasting,
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Speaker 1: shows like Crimetown and serial s Town, my favorite Murder.
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Speaker 1: These shows had just launched and I was obsessed. So
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Speaker 1: I thought I'd make a podcast, and by doing so,
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Speaker 1: I'd demonstrate that I could work with audio, I could
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Speaker 1: work in audio, and then maybe someone would hire me
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Speaker 1: in some capacity to work for them, like maybe I
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Speaker 1: get a gig making podcasts for some cool company or something.
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Speaker 1: This thinking happened because at the time I am, when
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Speaker 1: I knew that I was going to get fired and
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Speaker 1: I was about to need a job. I asked my
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Speaker 1: wife and I asked my friend Adam the same question.
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Speaker 1: If you could hire me to do one job for you,
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Speaker 1: what would it be, And they both gave me the
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Speaker 1: same answer. They both said a different version of I'd
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Speaker 1: pay you to tell me stories. Now, this came as
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Speaker 1: a surprise because after years of being in bands and
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Speaker 1: driving around the country in shitty vans with my bandmates
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Speaker 1: who were telling me the opposite, telling me that I
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Speaker 1: needed to go get myself kidnapped so that I'd have
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Speaker 1: some new stories to tell. You know, I was. I
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Speaker 1: was kind of pumped to learn that there were actually
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Speaker 1: people interested in what I had to say, even if
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Speaker 1: it was just my wife and one of my best friends.
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Speaker 1: And the point is, I got this validation, this sort
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Speaker 1: of vote of confidence, right as I was becoming a
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Speaker 1: podcast listener. So naturally I decided to start my own podcast,
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Speaker 1: and I wanted to start a podcast that I wanted
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Speaker 1: to listen to, a music podcast. I'd just become a
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Speaker 1: dad couple of years before this, and I was reading
10:02
Speaker 1: Leg's McNeil in Gillian McCain's excellent book Please Kill Me,
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Speaker 1: which is an oral history about the origins of punk rock.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't read it, you have to read it.
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Speaker 1: It's great. It's got allways great stories about lou read Aypop,
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Speaker 1: the Ramones, and I remember thinking, again, this is right
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Speaker 1: after becoming a dad. You become a dad, become a parent.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like from moms, but for me,
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Speaker 1: just a lot of shit changes, prospective shifts. I remember thinking, Wow,
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Speaker 1: I love the music these people make and I always
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Speaker 1: have and I always will. But I wouldn't let these
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Speaker 1: dudes in the same room with my children. That was
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Speaker 1: an actual thought that I had. I may have been
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Speaker 1: sleep deprived at the time, but I did have it.
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Speaker 1: And then I thought about all the music history that
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Speaker 1: I'd read throughout my life and the stories that I
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Speaker 1: like to retell, that I like to recount, and they
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Speaker 1: were always the stories that were most revealing, sure, but
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Speaker 1: they were the stories that involved crimes that these rock
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Speaker 1: stars either comemitted or got caught up in. And this
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Speaker 1: is because as a kid, I was absolutely captivated, owned
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Speaker 1: actually by the book Helter Skelter, and then about a
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Speaker 1: year later, I read Truman Capote's In Cold Blood, which,
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Speaker 1: aside from the Old Testament, is like the first true
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Speaker 1: crime book. And more on the Old Testament comment in
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Speaker 1: the Patti Smith episode, You'll know what I'm talking about,
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Speaker 1: but I digress. True crime books owned me in high school,
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Speaker 1: and then later as a young adult the historical fiction
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Speaker 1: of James Elroy that got its claws into me as well.
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Speaker 1: So I thought, well, I want to make a music
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Speaker 1: podcast that I want to listen to. I want to
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Speaker 1: hear the stories from music history that aren't surface level,
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Speaker 1: that aren't on the rock stars Wikipedia pages, the stories
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Speaker 1: that oftentimes aren't part of the musician's chosen narrative, the
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Speaker 1: stories that didn't make it into the cheesy biopics. And
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Speaker 1: I want these stories told to me like my favorite
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Speaker 1: directors tell stories with their own point of view and
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Speaker 1: with dramatic edge of your seat, in your face action
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Speaker 1: and gripping theater of the mind. All these ideas came
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Speaker 1: to me and gave me my building blocks for what
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Speaker 1: this show would become and what it has become. And
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Speaker 1: I knew that the first story I had to tell
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Speaker 1: was the story about Jerry Lee Lewis, the story of
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Speaker 1: the rock and roll pioneer, the one they literally nicknamed
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Speaker 1: the killer, and how he allegedly got away with murdering
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Speaker 1: his wife. Now, Jerry le Lewis lived about half an
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Speaker 1: hour from Elvis Presley's Graceland, But what did they call
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Speaker 1: Jerry Lee's home? Disgraceland. My first podcast episode gave me
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Speaker 1: the title of this show. Here's a clip. The first
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Speaker 1: thing they noticed was the absence of mister Lewis. The
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Speaker 1: second thing they noticed was how the body of missus
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Speaker 1: Lewis was situated or placed neatly on a fully made
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Speaker 1: bed in a guest room, not in her bedroom with
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Speaker 1: her newlywed husband in a guest room. The EMTs checked
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Speaker 1: for vitals while Lottie Jackson, Jerry Lee's caretaker of more
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Speaker 1: than ten years, knocked on his bedroom. Within seconds the
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Speaker 1: killer emerged. The EMTs quickly noticed the bright red scratches
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Speaker 1: on the back of jerry Lee's hand, you know, the
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Speaker 1: kind the kind of looked like scratches your cat would make,
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Speaker 1: except Jerry Lee didn't own a cat. Blood was also
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Speaker 1: visible on Jerry Lee's robe and on his slippers. There
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Speaker 1: was a pile of bloody clothes in the bathroom, a
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Speaker 1: rivulet of blood on a door, more blood on the carpet.
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Speaker 1: Broken glass was scattered across the floor Throughout the house.
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Speaker 1: There was blood on Sean's dead hand, in her hair,
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Speaker 1: on her clothes and on a bra that was in
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Speaker 1: another room, Dirt all over her body, bruises on her arms,
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Speaker 1: on her hip, her fingernails were broken with something that
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Speaker 1: looked a lot like blood underneath them. All of this
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Speaker 1: physical evidence on and around a woman lying dead on
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Speaker 1: top of a neat and made bed that wasn't hers,
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Speaker 1: in a guest room in her own home, down the
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Speaker 1: hall from where her newlywed husband slept alone. Stranger than that,
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Speaker 1: the evidence wouldn't even be reported until after the grand
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Speaker 1: jury convened. Is it any wonder that they found no
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Speaker 1: indication of foul play? All right, guys, if you not
14:20
Speaker 1: disgrace sand if you're one of our longtime listeners, you
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Speaker 1: know that we've come a long way from that episode
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Speaker 1: episode one, and I know many of you, most of
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Speaker 1: you have been here since episode one, and I thank you.
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Speaker 1: I am so grateful to you guys for your commitment
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Speaker 1: to this show. It means more than I can possibly express.
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Speaker 1: And I'm stoked for you to hear where we're taking this.
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Speaker 1: I'm stoked for the new listeners that are coming into
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Speaker 1: the show every week. I see you, I see your dms,
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Speaker 1: I get your emails, the comments on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts.
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Speaker 1: I want you guys to know that was episode one. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Our next episode on Patti Smith will be episode number
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy, two hundred and seventy, And the
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Speaker 1: Patty episode is not about Patti Smith murdering anyone like
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Speaker 1: that Jerry Lee Lewis episode allegedly, But it's super true
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Speaker 1: crimey more on that than the other artists that were
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Speaker 1: covering coming up in the coming months. Right here after
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Speaker 1: this break in Disgraceland. We'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 1: We're We're, We're okay. Patty Smith is about as beloved
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Speaker 1: an artists as you can find, mainly because well, her
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Speaker 1: music is incredible and she's just a great all around artist,
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Speaker 1: a multi hyphen artist. She's a writer, a musician, obviously
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Speaker 1: a poet. She's also a survivor. Now, unlike so many
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Speaker 1: of the artists that Patti Smith admired, some of them,
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Speaker 1: like William S Burrows, themselves criminals. Unlike those artists she admired,
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Speaker 1: and unlike many of the artists that she came up with,
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Speaker 1: Patti Smith survived, and I argue in this new episode
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Speaker 1: on Patty that True Crime is the reason that Patti
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Speaker 1: Smith survived. More specifically, what Pattie Smith learned from True Crime.
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Speaker 1: It taught her how to avoid being a victim of
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Speaker 1: a crime, how to avoid being a rock and roll casualty.
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Speaker 1: Everything from the crime and crime and death that she
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Speaker 1: was exposed to when she was living at the Chelsea
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Speaker 1: Hotel with Robert Maplethorpe, to her time in New York
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Speaker 1: in the late seventies during the forty four Caliber Son
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Speaker 1: of Sam killings, to her mother's fascination with the first
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Speaker 1: true crime of the century, the kidnapping and the Limburg Baby.
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Speaker 1: All that plus Patty getting up close and personal with
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Speaker 1: seventies New York street hustling pimps, heroin, the bloodstained apartment
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Speaker 1: walls and chalk outlined sidewalks that she was forced to
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Speaker 1: live in and around all of it. All of this
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Speaker 1: true crime taught the quote unquote godmother of punk how
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Speaker 1: to not become a victim and how to survive, and
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Speaker 1: to also develop some pretty surprising taste in television. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is the most revealing thing to me, serial crime fiction.
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Speaker 1: Patti Smith, the high Priestess of Art Binging, CSI and
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Speaker 1: Law and Order. I did not see that coming. Guys.
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Speaker 1: She's just like us, just like us, Patti Smith. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: that Patty Smith episode. I'm beyond excited for you to
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Speaker 1: hear this. It's coming next week. I promise you. You may
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Speaker 1: know the Patti Smith story, but you're not gonna you
17:24
Speaker 1: don't know this story. You're not gonna hear it like this. Okay. Now,
17:27
Speaker 1: before that Patty Smith episode, we're gonna have a bonus
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Speaker 1: after party episode that's coming up on Thursday. Per usual,
17:33
Speaker 1: typically for new listeners, Disgrace and releases new stories every Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: These are the artists centered music and true crimes, scripted
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Speaker 1: and sound designed episodes that I've been talking about, each
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Speaker 1: on a different artist and the crime or crimes that
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Speaker 1: they've been involved with. It being Tuesday when the episode
17:49
Speaker 1: that you're listening to right now is released. Normally you'd
17:53
Speaker 1: get a fully scripted, sound designed episode here on an artist,
17:57
Speaker 1: but we do trailers a couple times a year, and
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Speaker 1: rather than just dropping a trailer into the feed that
18:02
Speaker 1: was like three or four minutes long that just had
18:04
Speaker 1: clips from shows, I figured I'd put a little more
18:06
Speaker 1: meat on the bone, give a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: an explanation in here, spend some time discussing, you know,
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Speaker 1: where Disgrace line's at, where it's been. We blew by
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Speaker 1: two hundred episodes. We didn't even mention it two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty episodes as well. We're at two hundred and seventy,
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Speaker 1: so I just felt like it was time. You know,
18:22
Speaker 1: we're we're gonna wake up in a couple months, we're
18:24
Speaker 1: gonna be at three hundred episodes, So I just figured
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Speaker 1: it was time to kind of reset as we share
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Speaker 1: what's coming up with the discos who have been listening
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Speaker 1: forever and give the lay of the land to the
18:33
Speaker 1: new listeners who have come in over the past few months, weeks, days, whatever. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing here. So that's the Patti
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Speaker 1: Smith episode coming up next week. There will be a
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Speaker 1: bonus after party episode before that, released on Thursday, per usual,
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Speaker 1: So typically for new listeners here, Disgraceland releases news stories
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Speaker 1: every Tuesday. These are our artists centered music and true crimes,
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Speaker 1: scripted and sound designed episodes that I've been talking about.
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Speaker 1: Now on Thursdays we release bonus chat episodes. The bonus
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Speaker 1: after party episodes are where I take your calls and
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Speaker 1: respond to your texts and dms and emails, typically in
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Speaker 1: relation to questions and comments listeners have on that week's
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Speaker 1: full episode on the artist we cover. Historically, we've released
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Speaker 1: our archive episodes, our rewind episodes, episodes from our archive
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Speaker 1: of over two hundred and sixty stories from different artists
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Speaker 1: from every genre, Musicians you love, musicians you've never heard
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Speaker 1: of but are going to love their stories. These archive episodes,
19:39
Speaker 1: historically we're released on Fridays. They are now going to
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Speaker 1: be released on Sundays. The reason we release archive episodes
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Speaker 1: once a week, like think of it like a rerun
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Speaker 1: on television, is because we get new listeners coming in
19:53
Speaker 1: all the time, and emails and dms requesting artists, frankly artists,
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Speaker 1: and in some cases we covered years ago, so we
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Speaker 1: figured research these artists made sense to give new fans exposure,
20:03
Speaker 1: you know. Plus, Disgraceland is its evergreen content. You can
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Speaker 1: re listen to these stories over and over again like
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Speaker 1: you can rewatch a movie or rebinge a TV series,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. Okay, now, on all those episodes, those two
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy episodes, it's hard for me to pick
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Speaker 1: out a favorite. But if you're looking for some highlights
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Speaker 1: from the archive, some of the stories that disco's regularly
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Speaker 1: talk to me about are the recent Lady Gaga two
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Speaker 1: part episode that got a lot of heat in the
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Speaker 1: murder mystery that's at the origin of Gaga's story. The
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Speaker 1: Grateful Dead unwittingly turning American youth onto LSD after being
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Speaker 1: manipulated by the CIA that's always gotten a lot of action,
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Speaker 1: The story about the Norwegian black metal scene and the
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Speaker 1: church burnings, the murder the cannibalism. There's Sid and Nancy,
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Speaker 1: Kurt and Courtney, the Stones, the Beatles, Amy Winehouse, that's
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Speaker 1: another one that gets always gets a lot of a
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Speaker 1: lot of mentions, a lot of action. And I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have my guy Matt here, who's producing this episode. Lay
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Speaker 1: a clip from the Amy whine House episode in right here.
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Speaker 1: The cameras there flash the intrusive shouts from members of
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Speaker 1: the paparazzi and their commands, do this, don't do that?
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Speaker 1: How's red? When was the last time he saw Blake?
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Speaker 1: When are we getting new music? To Amy, it was
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Speaker 1: white noise. As disruptive as it was, she could no
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Speaker 1: longer register it. She'd walk down the street and affect
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Speaker 1: her one thousand yard junkie stare. It wasn't difficult. She'd
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Speaker 1: done her time in the shooting gallery. Even if she
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Speaker 1: was off smack, and even if she was drunk, she
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Speaker 1: knew how to project the gaze. Amy would trick herself
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Speaker 1: into thinking about something else. Music, always music. She'd watch
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Speaker 1: her voice as if the sound of it was a
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Speaker 1: physical thing that could be tracked visually. Amy would take
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Speaker 1: a melody, sometimes one of her own. Something she was
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Speaker 1: working on. These days. It was usually a classic from
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Speaker 1: the Torch song Book, from one of the jazz grades
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Speaker 1: she admired and studied, Saravaon or Tony Bennett, and Amy
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Speaker 1: would imagine that melody passing over her lips and rising
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Speaker 1: up into the sky, floating freely without the limitations of
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Speaker 1: this cruel world. It would move with ease around the
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Speaker 1: clouds from left to right, slinking and sliding over the
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Speaker 1: imagined bars of some cosmic scale, a sonic manifestation of
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Speaker 1: the emotion welling up inside of a heavily mascarret vision board,
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Speaker 1: like one of those transparent acetate sheets the music school
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Speaker 1: teachers who place on old viewfoil projectors, layered over the
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Speaker 1: reality of the unwonted fame that complicated her world, the
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Speaker 1: same world she tottered through alternately on four inch heels
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Speaker 1: and in bloody ballerina shoes. All right, that's Amy Winehouse.
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Speaker 1: I should also probably mention that I was in Texas
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Speaker 1: a little bit ago, and I ran into a fan
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Speaker 1: and a musician actually, who brought up our ditty episodes,
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Speaker 1: which I love, Our Shawn Home episodes. We have two.
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Speaker 1: We have part one and a part two. But if
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Speaker 1: we're talking about disgrace slanmed hip hop episodes. The jay
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Speaker 1: Z episode is my favorite. December one, nineteen ninety nine, Midtown, Manhattan,
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Speaker 1: the Kitcat Club, the release party for the heavily anticipated
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Speaker 1: solo debut by q Tip from a tribe called Quest Sean,
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Speaker 1: Puffy Comb's Little Kim, Busted Rhymes, and the Little Cease
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Speaker 1: all on the scene. Jay Z rolled up late and
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Speaker 1: deep with his entourage behind him. At the bar Lance
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Speaker 1: on Rivera Jay spied him confronted him with a bootlegging allegation.
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Speaker 1: Fuck that, fuck you, I didn't bootleg shit. Who do
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Speaker 1: you think you even talked to? Fuck out of my face.
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Speaker 1: Young Jay headed back to the bar, blinders on rage,
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Speaker 1: pulsing darkness, closing in that feeling of being fucked with,
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Speaker 1: losing control, being disrespected, dissed into, dismissed, unacceptable in Jay's
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Speaker 1: previous occupation, when you were disrespected, and especially if someone
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Speaker 1: took money out of your pocket, you not only stood
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Speaker 1: your ground, you let that motherfucker know you were not
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Speaker 1: to be fucked with by any means necessary. It was survival,
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Speaker 1: and here, right now in the Kit Kat Club, that
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Speaker 1: familiar survival instinct kicked in and took over. Jay turned around,
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Speaker 1: beat the line straight back to a bottle in one hand,
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Speaker 1: knife in the other. He got up on him quick.
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Speaker 1: Witnesses say Jay spoke direct a la Michael Corleoni, defredo Lance,
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Speaker 1: you broke my heart, and then smashed the bottle over
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Speaker 1: UN's brother's head a quick distraction before plunging the five
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Speaker 1: inch blade into unsgut. Fuck you, bootleg boy. Let that
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Speaker 1: be a lesson. All right, that's Jay Z in Disgraceland,
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Speaker 1: and I'll be back right after this. I know, I know,
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Speaker 1: I've been saying I'm gonna do this for the last
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Speaker 1: two breaks, but I'll be back right after this with
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Speaker 1: a reveal of which new artists we are covering in
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Speaker 1: the coming months here in Disgraceland. All right, thanks for
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Speaker 1: hanging out with me today in this special episode of Disgraceland.
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Speaker 1: Hope you dug the peak behind the curtain, a little
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland history. But now to the matter at hand, our
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Speaker 1: new episodes, our new stories next week, our brand new
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Speaker 1: episode on Patti Smith, which you can tell by now
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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about. And then after that our new
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Speaker 1: episode on Grace Jones, who I was surprised to learn
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Speaker 1: that the iconic eighty Star was basically a walking true crime. Then,
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, Depeche Mode Foo Fighters, and after that,
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Speaker 1: finally our long requested episode on a real dirtbag, Ian
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Speaker 1: Watkins from Lost Prophets. The musicians are unspeakable, and if
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Speaker 1: I'm being honest, guys, I'm not really sure how I'm
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Speaker 1: even going to tell this story, but I'm up for
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Speaker 1: the challenge. Then we get into our episode on Stevie
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Speaker 1: ray Vaughan, followed by a story on Christina Grimy, the
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Speaker 1: singer from the Voice who became super famous, super quick
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Speaker 1: and was tragically murdered. After that, we've got episodes check
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Speaker 1: this out on the following Weezer Adele Blur, Slash Elastica,
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Speaker 1: George Jones, Fiona Apple, Wendy o' williams. Yes, this goes.
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Speaker 1: I listened to all the voicemails, read all the texts,
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Speaker 1: and the emails suggesting Wendy o williams it's coming later
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Speaker 1: this year. Episodes on t Rex, Alanis Morrissette, Nick Cave,
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Speaker 1: Maybe still haven't decided on Nick Cave, Slip Knott, Nico
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Speaker 1: from The Velvet Underground, Slayer, The Alman Brothers, and I
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Speaker 1: am working my way up and into assuming I can
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Speaker 1: conjure the appropriate amount of constitutional fortitude to cover Courtney
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Speaker 1: Love to kick off the fall stringth of Disgraceland episodes.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of stories. Okay. I hope it was
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Speaker 1: worth your hang here, but as always, we need more stories. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even get into the twenty twenty six Fall
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Speaker 1: in Winter episodes aside from mentioning Courtney, So discoes, keep
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, thanks for hanging out with me in
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Speaker 1: another episode, this one a special episode of Disgraceland. Can't
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Speaker 1: wait to talk to you all again in the after
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Speaker 1: party coming up next. And man, I'm so looking forward
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Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say about this Patti
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Speaker 1: Smith episode. All Right, it's been real, but now I
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Speaker 1: get to get out of here and go do some research.
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Speaker 1: Rock a little, He's an Land