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The Decline of Socialism in Israel | Avi Lipkin · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Gary Steerman and I have a marvelous guest
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  Speaker 2: today and I want him to share some of his
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  Speaker 2: great knowledge about the nation Israel. He's Azvi Lipkin, not
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  Speaker 2: from Israel, and I consider you an insider, Avi, and
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  Speaker 2: it's really good to have you here today.
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  Speaker 1: Great to be there. And indeed, fifty four years insider,
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  Speaker 1: fifty four years.
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  Speaker 2: In county and always sort of in the middle of things,
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  Speaker 2: in the center of the action. Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that the people who are listening to
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  Speaker 2: today want to know something. They want to know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes in Israel. What's the real
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  Speaker 2: Israel today?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would like to say to people listening or
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  Speaker 1: watching that if they would go, oh, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who's the eager beaver here, But if they would go
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  Speaker 1: to the computer and type in the word Kanesset Knesset,
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  Speaker 1: they will arrive at a website which will show the
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  Speaker 1: results of twenty five of Israel's elections, the last twenty
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  Speaker 1: five elections from day one. And it's very simple really
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  Speaker 1: that the socialist and communists and pseudo communist parties in
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  Speaker 1: Israel were the majority in nineteen forty eight forty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union was one of the
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  Speaker 1: first recognized state of Israel because he was sure that
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  Speaker 1: Israel would join the Soviet Bloc. But Ben Gurion, our
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  Speaker 1: first prime minister, had other ideas. He did not want
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  Speaker 1: to write off the Jews of America or the Jews
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  Speaker 1: of the Daspraa, and he did not want to take
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  Speaker 1: sides in the Cold War between the Soviet Union and
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  Speaker 1: the United States. So he made a coalition with Religious
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  Speaker 1: Party and also with a liberal party, but not liberal
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  Speaker 1: like in today's sense, the liberal and the sense of
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  Speaker 1: laissez faire capitalist party, which actually became part of the
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  Speaker 1: li Could one of the days later sixty six, they
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  Speaker 1: became part of the Liculd. It was called the General
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  Speaker 1: Zionis anyway, So the General Zionists and the Religious Party
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  Speaker 1: and been very informed a coalition and what we see
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  Speaker 1: from nineteen twenty two total socialist Soviet domination of life
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  Speaker 1: in Israel. Nineteen forty nine, like I said, the creation
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  Speaker 1: of the State of Israel, we had our first election,
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  Speaker 1: and if you look at the twenty five elections coming
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  Speaker 1: all the way down until first of November twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: You see a steady down hill for the socialist parties,
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  Speaker 1: and what you see rowing is the Nationalist party and
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  Speaker 1: the religious parties. There are many religious parties and together
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  Speaker 1: the nationalists and the religious make up sixty four out
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  Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty members of Kannesse.
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  Speaker 2: Back to the very beginning, Kanesse. Now you mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: as a log on on your computers is a Kanesse
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  Speaker 2: dot com. I know Kanesse means parliament, right, It's the
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  Speaker 2: Israeli parliament, right, So is it Kanesse dot com? No?
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  Speaker 1: No, My personal website is Biblical Alliance dot com. And
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  Speaker 1: the political party, the Bible Block Party, has also a website.
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  Speaker 1: The Kanesset website belongs to the government. But the important
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  Speaker 1: thing is look at the numbers, look at the statistics,
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  Speaker 1: and you see a steady downhill. People are getting disenchanted
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  Speaker 1: with communism and socialism and the majority of these ralies
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  Speaker 1: today are right wing and religious. So the problem now
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  Speaker 1: is that the vested interests of the last one hundred
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  Speaker 1: years are being challenged by the up and coming religious
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  Speaker 1: and nationalist population.
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  Speaker 2: I think most of us wouldn't have expected that, and
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  Speaker 2: we see the world going the other way. But if
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  Speaker 2: Israel is sort of having a spiritual awakening of sorts,
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  Speaker 2: that's fascinating to me.
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  Speaker 1: It must also be added that the army, for example,
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  Speaker 1: which has always been dominated by the Socialists, today fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent of the thirty five percent of the officers today
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  Speaker 1: in the Israel the army are with the Kipap, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the religious Jews. Fifty percent of the kids in school
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  Speaker 1: are Orthodox. In other words, we are going in the
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  Speaker 1: direction of a demographic shift going over to religious and nationalists.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's surprising in a world that is increasingly secular.
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  Speaker 2: It really is surprising to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's really very simple. The Socialists are used to
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  Speaker 1: having one child per family, maybe two. The religious and
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  Speaker 1: the Conservatives have three, four kids per family, or in
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  Speaker 1: the case of the ultra Orthodox, ten kids per family.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is simply the population growth on the
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  Speaker 1: right hand of the spectrum is causing the Jews, who
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  Speaker 1: are more traditional, to increase in numbers, and the Socialists
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  Speaker 1: are less and less and less. And also another thing,
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  Speaker 1: the Socialists are not really very Zionist. I'm not talking
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  Speaker 1: about religion. I'm talking about loyalty to the State of Israel,
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  Speaker 1: and so many of them get a job with high
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  Speaker 1: tech or something, and if they say, well, you've got
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  Speaker 1: to go over to Ireland or you've got to go
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  Speaker 1: over to the US or some other country, then they
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  Speaker 1: just go and they're happy and they stay there because
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  Speaker 1: they don't have any ideological commitment to the State of Israel,
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  Speaker 1: whereas the nationalists and the ultra Orthodox and modern and
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  Speaker 1: the nationalist Orthodox Israel is the apple of Ori.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's wonderful. I mean, it's good news.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a problem also, But we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, go ahead, there is a darker side.
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  Speaker 1: There's a darker side, you know. Benjamin Atanya, who is
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  Speaker 1: married to a very sweet, wonderful woman by name was
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Ataniao. Sarah Ataniao has a brother, and he went
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  Speaker 1: on record last week saying, you want democracy, leave Israel
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  Speaker 1: and go to America where they have democracy. Democracy is
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  Speaker 1: not a Biblical value. I was completely shocked, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not the first time I heard something like that. In
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  Speaker 1: other words, my whole life has been dedicated to studying
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  Speaker 1: and supporting the idea of Judeo Christian Western civilization and democracy.
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  Speaker 1: And when I look at history, I look at what
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  Speaker 1: the Greeks contributed, and with the Romans contributed, and the
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  Speaker 1: Middle Ages and the Renaissance, and all these things that
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  Speaker 1: happened throughout history. The Magna Carta eighteen twelve fifteen, for example,
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  Speaker 1: limiting the absolute powers of the government. And then you
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  Speaker 1: had the American Revolution, which in itself was also a
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  Speaker 1: remarkable feat. The American Revolution changed the world, the abolishing
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  Speaker 1: of slavery, giving women suffrage, you know, voting rights. This
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  Speaker 1: is two thousand years of the progress of the human race.
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  Speaker 1: And so to come and say, if you don't like
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  Speaker 1: the markeraty, go to America. We're going to stay with
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  Speaker 1: the Bible. That guy was basically this is the brother
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  Speaker 1: of Sara Nataniel. He wants to go back to two
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  Speaker 1: thousand years ago. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy in the light of what's happening in
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  Speaker 2: the world today. I would say, yeah. But to hear
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  Speaker 2: that is very encouraging. We all those of us who
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  Speaker 2: are Bible believing Christians really highly guard Israel, both in
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  Speaker 2: history and in prophecy, because God is absolutely going to
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  Speaker 2: do a great work in israeli as he has done
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  Speaker 2: in the past, and for that reason, we watch Israel
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  Speaker 2: very very closely because it is God's hallowed ground, and
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  Speaker 2: not that the United States is not. But there's a difference,
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  Speaker 2: a big difference.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to say something. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: time we have left. I see very little time left,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe we can cover it in the next podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll start by saying that when I was a
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  Speaker 1: young kid growing up in New York, I was taught
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  Speaker 1: or shall I say, mistaught, and he was school that
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  Speaker 1: all Christians were bad and there was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a holocaust in America. A few years ago, my granddaughters
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  Speaker 1: came home from school and they're religious teachers. The rabbis
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  Speaker 1: were saying to them, all Christians are bad and you know,
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  Speaker 1: bad things about Christians, and my son Aaron and I
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  Speaker 1: had to sit down very seriously and straighten them out.
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  Speaker 1: And we straightened them out and they began to understand
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  Speaker 1: that many times rabbis are misteaching because they themselves were mistaught.
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  Speaker 1: And so one of the important things we have to
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  Speaker 1: do is to reach out to the rabbis, reach out
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  Speaker 1: to the religious teachers, to explain to them that the
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  Speaker 1: development of Western Christianity, which has been Zionist in essence,
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  Speaker 1: is something that developed only because of Western civilization and democracy.
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  Speaker 1: So we cannot mock Western civilization and democracy because then
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  Speaker 1: we go back to a very evil time in which
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  Speaker 1: we were slaughtered and we had no friends, and.
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  Speaker 2: The work of God goes on. You know, things happen,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't just happen. There's a divine direction, and
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  Speaker 2: I know you're aware of that, and I know I
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  Speaker 2: think Israelis in general would be aware of that fact
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  Speaker 2: and have us under the skin. There is that constant
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  Speaker 2: awareness that there is a God and he is working
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  Speaker 2: and he does he does favor and bless certain people.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, may the Lord bless you Abby
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  Speaker 1: A man, and you and prophecy watchers and America thank
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  Speaker 1: you