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Jaguars Happy Hour | Will Joe Flacco or Anthony Richardson Start for Indy? · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October third. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: And now a guy who just finished boarding school so
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  Speaker 1: he can learn.
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  Speaker 2: How to get on an airplane. Shay Pee Jack and
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  Speaker 2: welcome in a Jaguars Happy Hour Thursday, October third, Week
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  Speaker 2: five of the National Football League, and we've got a
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  Speaker 2: busy two hours ahead. First hour is happy Hour, of course,
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  Speaker 2: second hour the Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock on
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network. The Jaguars course searching for that
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  Speaker 2: first win of the season in is throwback week. Surprise
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  Speaker 2: Logs isn't wearing his old jersey tonight. Kauflin into the
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  Speaker 2: pride of the Jaguars at halftime this Sunday, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: have the head coaching Studio. We'll hear from Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 2: coming up at five o'clock. We're on ten TOXL ninety
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  Speaker 2: two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, and
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  Speaker 2: the Colt Jaguars Game is presented by Baptist Tell Changing
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  Speaker 2: Healthcare for Good JP. Shadwick with Jeff Logaban, Good afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, JP. We haven't coached Kauflin on tonight? Is
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  Speaker 2: that what you're saying he's being inducted into the Pride
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  Speaker 2: of the Jaguars. I don't know if you've heard. I
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  Speaker 2: did hear that? Okay, I'm actually looking forward to seeing
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  Speaker 2: him Saturday night. I think we're gonna have a dinner.
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  Speaker 2: Oh cool with all the legends, I guess is what
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  Speaker 2: they're calling us, of course, right, that'll be great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's you know, there's legends and then there's
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  Speaker 2: X players. I don't know if we all fall into
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  Speaker 2: the category of legends, which one you asked? Maybe in
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  Speaker 2: our own minds. No, that'll be great. Man. It's always
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  Speaker 2: a fun I'm sure a fun event, right, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's good and the team, the team takes very good
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  Speaker 2: care of us as far as some of the events
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  Speaker 2: and the dinner and how they get treated on game day.
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  Speaker 2: The guys that are all come in. It's cool. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's very cool. Excited to see everybody because you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of hard sometimes when it's early in the
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  Speaker 2: season to get everybody back because a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: guys who are affiliated with football in some way, shape
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  Speaker 2: or form, either coaching or whatever, coaching or you know,
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  Speaker 2: whether it be high school or college or pro and
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously, if it's pro it's very difficult unless
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  Speaker 2: all of sudden, somebody's bye week absolutely coincides with this week,
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  Speaker 2: like the Detroit lines of Mark Burnell. Maybe we'll see Brune.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I hope so maybe so, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I hope. So that'll be fun. Yeah, I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to it. And you know, there's i mean, typically about
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  Speaker 2: about thirty guys that usually come back, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of guys aren't going far. You know, they're
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  Speaker 2: already here in town. You know, it's just all a
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  Speaker 2: sudden they come out of the woodwork for this. It'll
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  Speaker 2: be good to see coach Goff when I got a
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  Speaker 2: chance to be around him a little bit earlier this
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  Speaker 2: week at the Wolfson Children's Hospital. Visit that Cam Little
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  Speaker 2: the kicker and Russ Manisk the long snapper attended, and
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  Speaker 2: he's excited. You can tell that. Okay, the days they
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  Speaker 2: did some media stuff recently, he's like, all right, all right,
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  Speaker 2: we're past all the media stuff and now it's starting
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  Speaker 2: to hit him. I think, well, I'm excited for him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, he deserves to be up there. He's
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  Speaker 2: the one who essentially built this franchise. From the ground up,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, obviously, Wayne Weaver is a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was very instrumental in all of that, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the founding partners and the people that work
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  Speaker 2: diligently to get the franchise here in Jacksonville. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everybody deserves a lot of credit. But Coughlin was the
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  Speaker 2: face of the franchise for very I mean, how mavery
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  Speaker 2: many years it was, I mean a long time and
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  Speaker 2: very successful, successful, went on to win Super Bowls. You know,
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  Speaker 2: great man. What he's done in our community and continues
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  Speaker 2: to do in our community is amazing. Love them ninety
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  Speaker 2: five through two. There you have it. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 2: of course two Super Bowls with the Giants a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later. We've got plenty of time for that. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get back to that a little bit later. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: that's at halftime coming up. But can we get to
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  Speaker 2: halftime with a lead? Can we get can we at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the game with the lead? Can we
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  Speaker 2: keep talking about Tom Coughlin we come back to that.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta get to football. And the Jags are rowing
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  Speaker 2: four and looking for traction, I guess is a nice
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  Speaker 2: way to say what's going on right now? And head
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  Speaker 2: coach Doug Peterson Wednesday was asked about reports from the
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  Speaker 2: outside that he had apparently lost the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: I talk to these guys every day, I see them
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  Speaker 3: every day, and no, I have not lost the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: I think these guys have done everything I've asked. They
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  Speaker 3: continue to play and practice hard and battle and and
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good group. It's a good group.
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  Speaker 3: The right leaders in there, and that they know, they
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  Speaker 3: know what we need to do.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're not making excuses for it, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to make excuses and we just kinda go do.
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  Speaker 2: It, all right. That's the head coach full press conference
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  Speaker 2: available at Jaguars dot com Jaguars YouTube. But you're buying
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  Speaker 2: into this lost locker room stuff, And how do you
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  Speaker 2: know when that might have happened. Do you ever have
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  Speaker 2: that as a player that you guys, oh gosh, we're
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  Speaker 2: done with this guy. Yeah. I mean there was an
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  Speaker 2: instance early in my career that our locker room was
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  Speaker 2: not a big fan of a coach, and you could
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  Speaker 2: say that the locker room kind of was done with
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  Speaker 2: the coach, you know, so to speak. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: see that Doug has lost this locker room. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: I think if you see effort that is dwindling or
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  Speaker 2: is not there, then I think you could make a
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  Speaker 2: case for that. You know, on top of that, the
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  Speaker 2: story that was written was written from a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: not even on the beat. He's on the X tier
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  Speaker 2: kind of looking in. So I don't really understand why
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  Speaker 2: that story came about. But you know, the reality is
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  Speaker 2: that you just got to win football games, because when
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  Speaker 2: you don't win football games, that kind of talk exists.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the reality of professional sports. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you win and then everything is better, Everything is rosier,
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  Speaker 2: and everything is cheerier and funnier, and they're not that
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  Speaker 2: far away. At least last week they were on the
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  Speaker 2: doorstep of a win again. Yeah, I say that right.
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  Speaker 2: The scores for the four weeks. There's two ways to
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  Speaker 2: at it, and look, hey, look you've been in three
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  Speaker 2: out of four games. Well, or you could look at
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  Speaker 2: it and with maybe not deeal colored glasses and from
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  Speaker 2: a pessimist viewpoint, you could say, you know, look, when
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  Speaker 2: the team had some adversity in Miami, they didn't weren't
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  Speaker 2: able to handle it right. And then in Week two
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  Speaker 2: against Cleveland. You let a bad Cleveland team score on
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  Speaker 2: three consecutive drives, and you didn't have any fire at
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  Speaker 2: a home opener, and in week three you got hammered
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  Speaker 2: on primetime. Yeah, you know, but this past game you
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  Speaker 2: were in it. But then again, you didn't make the
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  Speaker 2: place to win it. So I mean, there's kind of
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  Speaker 2: two ways to look at it. But the reality is
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  Speaker 2: is that if this team wants to be where it
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  Speaker 2: expected to be, you better start digging out of this hole. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you wait another week and when we had
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  Speaker 2: the conversation last week going into Houston, look, you win
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  Speaker 2: this game, and then you're one game out of first
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  Speaker 2: place in THEFC South and you're right there in the
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  Speaker 2: hunt for what your first goal is every year, win
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  Speaker 2: the division you lose. Now you're three games back and
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out a way to survive. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you're in that boat now, Okay, three games back to
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  Speaker 2: try to find a way to survive. Well, the only
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  Speaker 2: way you survive is that you win your division games.
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  Speaker 2: And here you go. You got the Colts coming in
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  Speaker 2: essentially kind of like a homecoming game, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you've been very successful against the Colts for a long
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  Speaker 2: period of time here in Jacksonville, and it's a weekend
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  Speaker 2: that was selected to have the throwback uniforms. Coughlin goes
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  Speaker 2: into the Pride of the Jaguars. All these things are
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  Speaker 2: set up because you've had great success against the Colts.
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  Speaker 2: You better win this one because if you think it's loud, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and conversations about well, is the coach lost the locker
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  Speaker 2: room and is Trevor worth a two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: five million dollar extension. If you think it's loud, now
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  Speaker 2: wait until you lose it home against the Colts. If
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  Speaker 2: that happens, it's going to get really loud then yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then we take the show on the road to
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  Speaker 2: the UK for two weeks, which you know, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: the season's not always about London, but that's a big deal. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, people are you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to have an attraction in London, I mean, give
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  Speaker 2: him something cheer about it, that's right, you know. But
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  Speaker 2: it's the same thing here. I mean, if the fans
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  Speaker 2: here want to have something to cheer about. I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: for this weekend with all the former guys coming in
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  Speaker 2: and coach going in and I hope it goes great.
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  Speaker 2: There has been, by the way, one team in NFL
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  Speaker 2: history that has started oh and four since nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 2: Who's that that that has made the playoffs. It's the
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  Speaker 2: ninety two San Diego Chargers. Bobby Bethard he was the
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  Speaker 2: g was the GM and Bobby Ross was a coach correct. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And Stan Humphreys was the quarterback. Yeah, and he was
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  Speaker 2: He wore sixteen I believe, and Leslie O'Neil had seventeen
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  Speaker 2: sacks that year ninety one absolute Junior Seau was aligned
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  Speaker 2: by fifty five. They started oh and four. He was
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  Speaker 2: a baller and Stan Humphreys had thrown like eight picks
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  Speaker 2: in four weeks and then settled down. They had some
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  Speaker 2: eight defensive play obviously, and went off and win eleven
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  Speaker 2: and one the rest of the way. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: team in history to do it at oh and fourth.
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  Speaker 2: They had some other good players on that defense. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't just Junior Sale and Leslie. Trying to remember some
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  Speaker 2: of the other guys, but maybe you to research it. However,
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  Speaker 2: Stanton Uprees attended Northeast Louisiana nineteen eighty seven to one
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  Speaker 2: Double A National champions on that roster freshman quarterback Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Just a small connect. Yeah, it doesn't anything but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but then Doug Peterson was on a team that in
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City. He was the offensive coordinator, I believe, of
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  Speaker 2: a team that was one and five and then rally
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  Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs. Right, I mean it's twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: It can be done. I mean, there's no it can
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  Speaker 2: be done. I'd rather not have to go through that.
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  Speaker 2: I think the hard part is is that you know,
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  Speaker 2: how do you how do you? Where do you begin?
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you're a team and that and that's
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  Speaker 2: hard to do. I mean that's why I mean right
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  Speaker 2: now if you talk about, you know, you got to
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  Speaker 2: find a way to have strong leadership with the team
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  Speaker 2: that's owned four. And that's not easy to do. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's got to be coming from the coaches, it's got
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  Speaker 2: to be coming from the players. You got to have
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  Speaker 2: a commitment to a work ethic to continue to find
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  Speaker 2: a way to dig yourself out of the hole. But
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a meal, JP. I look, you
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  Speaker 2: know you I love meals. We do, we both do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And you know you sit there and if you look
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  Speaker 2: at a whole table full of food, and you go, god, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well one time, one by the time, one bye at
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  Speaker 2: a time, and you know, for this football team, it's
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  Speaker 2: one play at a time, one moment at a time,
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  Speaker 2: and and then go from there. Stanley Richard ring a
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  Speaker 2: bell safety, Yeah, pretty good player, chargers, Chris Mims defensive end,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, who else? Give me some he had ten
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  Speaker 2: sacks that year. Looking at Gary Plummer, Plumber was a
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  Speaker 2: good player inside linebacker, kind of a journeyman, bounced around
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different teams. Shawn van Horse that those
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  Speaker 2: are kind of the big stats guys on defense anyway.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, moving ahead here on the Jaguars side
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  Speaker 2: of things now at Owen And I'm disappointed in that game,
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  Speaker 2: JP because they're well in the Houston game, I mean
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  Speaker 2: last week. I mean focusing on the last game, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you just had you had opportunities at the game to
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  Speaker 2: make it a two possession game. Yeah, and you just
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  Speaker 2: you didn't do it, you know, I mean, And I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be honest, quarterback, better start playing better. I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna get to that. There were some misthrows in that
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  Speaker 2: game that we've heard about all week long, and different
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  Speaker 2: programming and shows and things, and so that's the first
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  Speaker 2: time that's happened this year. By the way, well, no,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you go to Buffalo game, he overthrows
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas with a I mean a clean pocket, a
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  Speaker 2: wide open window, and it's it's a routine throw, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like right there, and he overthrows it, and mar Hamlin, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow Hamlin's first career pick. Tomorrow, Hamlin shouldn't have a
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  Speaker 2: first career pick. I mean that should be a routine
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  Speaker 2: throw in a routine catch, and you move the sticks
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  Speaker 2: and you go down and maybe put something together and
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  Speaker 2: make it drive. And then in this game you meet
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  Speaker 2: yet Brian Thomas Junior has first. Okay, let me start
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  Speaker 2: in chronological order. Early in the game, you got Christian
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  Speaker 2: Kirk who's running like an opposite field, deep over and
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  Speaker 2: wide open. I mean it's got seven eight yards on
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  Speaker 2: a defender. I mean it put on the money. It's touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: If not a touchdown, it's it definitely points. It's definitely
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  Speaker 2: inside the twenty yard line somewhere in there, but more
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  Speaker 2: than likely it's a touchdown. Then you got a I
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  Speaker 2: mean a beautiful, beautiful double move by Brian Thomas junior.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful got great separation and I never would have thought
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  Speaker 2: you could overthrow Brian Thomas junior, but you did. And
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  Speaker 2: so two lost opportunities there. He had Gabe gave Davis
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  Speaker 2: on the boundary and just you know, airmails it over
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  Speaker 2: the top of him. It's like, wait a minute, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on here? So he's got to dial it in
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  Speaker 2: if because you know, the reality is is that Doug
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  Speaker 2: Peterson Press Taylor offenses quarterback driven. I mean, all offenses are,
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  Speaker 2: to some extent, some of them just a little less
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  Speaker 2: relied on a quarterback. But this is a this is
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback centric offense. And so if you can't function
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  Speaker 2: at the quarterback position or be accurate, you miss throws
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  Speaker 2: like that, you're not gonna win a game. You're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna win the game. I mean, you run it. And
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  Speaker 2: here's the other part. You were running it so good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they I mean there were moments where they ran the
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  Speaker 2: ball round. I mean, what was tank average in like
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  Speaker 2: ten yards of carry or something like that, That big long one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean offensive line probably their best game yet, not
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  Speaker 2: that they're perfect, but they probably had their best game yet.
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  Speaker 2: Did a great job on those two outside guys, which
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  Speaker 2: you know that was kind of the strength of their defense.
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  Speaker 2: Then they neutralize those guys real quick. On the matchup
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  Speaker 2: this week with Gus Bradley's defense for the Colts, what
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  Speaker 2: will be the biggest challenge for Trevor in the past game? Patience? Patience.
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  Speaker 2: Gus Bradley defense gonna keep everything in front. They're gonna
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  Speaker 2: be simplified, They're not gonna make any mistakes. They are
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  Speaker 2: not gonna, you know, blow it allow you to get
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  Speaker 2: the explosive plays in the passing game. They're gonna keep
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  Speaker 2: everything up front. So the challenge for Trevor is to
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  Speaker 2: have that patience and to literally take what's there instead
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  Speaker 2: of forcing the ball into the intermediate or to the
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  Speaker 2: deep zone, because a lot of times with Gus Bradley defense,
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  Speaker 2: they're not giving you that. So can you put together
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  Speaker 2: nine eleven twelve play drives to march down the field?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have enough patience to do that? If you're
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback and Trevor has shown that he can be
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  Speaker 2: patient against me, Yeah, can you execute enough where you
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  Speaker 2: aren't penalized two or three times either in that longe? Well,
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  Speaker 2: that makes it harder some of that you know, when
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  Speaker 2: if you have a penalty or if you have you know,
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  Speaker 2: a sack or negative play, then it's hard to recover.
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  Speaker 2: If you can stay on schedule not make mistakes, then
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  Speaker 2: you have a chance against Indianapolis. I mean, the reality
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  Speaker 2: is is that their defense is not playing at a
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  Speaker 2: high level right now with some guys that are out
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  Speaker 2: and still trying to find our groove. I mean, thirty
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  Speaker 2: second ranked defense in the National Football League in yards,
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  Speaker 2: but at the same token or about middle of road
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  Speaker 2: and points allow. So let's not say, oh, they should
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  Speaker 2: score fifty on the Colts because they're the worst defense
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  Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Well, they're not giving up
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  Speaker 2: the worst amount of points in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: day's work. It's time to take it back to the nineties.
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  Speaker 2: Be at the bank. This Sunday is the Jags debut
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  Speaker 2: the Prowler throwback jerseys against the Colts, and head coach
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  Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin will be inducted into the Pride of the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars at halftime. Walk in your seats now go to
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  Speaker 2: ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube
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  Speaker 2: coming up at five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show. The
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  Speaker 2: head coach will be in studio with us and this
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  Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour. M m m m.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's an area that we can continue to improve, right,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think we're close. When you were again
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  Speaker 3: when you really put on the on the film and look,
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  Speaker 3: we're we're When I say we're close, we're inches away
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  Speaker 3: from hitting the quarterback, hitting his arm, knocking the ball loose.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've we've played some mobile guys here too
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: in these first first few weeks, you know, and and
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: so that that comes into play. But you know it's
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: not for for lack of effort. We've got to continue
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: to push pockets. You know, this is another another week
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: depending on who plays, you know, the past rush could
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: be a little bit different, you know, but but we're close.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: We we know internally that that we can improve and
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: it needs to improve, and we got to just continue
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: to work.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Ted coach Doug Peterson earlier this week on the Jaguars
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Pass Rush Getting close and welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: JP Shaddick with Jeff Logman with a the Hyundai Studios
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  Speaker 2: Baptists Hell Changing Healthcare for Good. I'm gonna disagree with Doug.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think they're that close there
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: on pass rush. I don't. You don't know why not.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I don't. I just think that they've got a lot
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: of work, a lot of work to do. They're they're
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: not They're not getting the push or the pressure that
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they need to get. The reality is that Josh Allen
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: right now is the only guy that's consistently or is
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: winning at a unacceptable rate as a pass rusher. Trayvon
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Walker is not. And he's in the protocol by the way,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Josh heines down this week, and that's a problem, yeh.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker is not winning at the rate that he
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: needs to be winning at. Eric Armstead is not winning
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: at the rate that he needs to be, and I
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: want to see him play defensive tackle more. I mean,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: he's not an edge player. I mean they played him
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: at end. I just think he's more effective when he's
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: in the inside and he can use his length. Now
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the Mason Smith, the rookie, put him out there. Let
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: him rush the passer. Just tell him say go go,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: go get him. You know, he was probably the most
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: effective pass rusher in the interior in training camp. But
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: that's because Eric Armstead wasn't in training camp. And the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: rest of the defensive tackles are just eh at best.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I mean they're just not doing much, you know. I
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: know Ledbetter got a sack, okay, but consistently it's not
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: happening enough, and it's not close. They're farther than close.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You know, if you know, if on a scale of
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: one to ten, let's say you're a tens where you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: want to be, if you're close, that would kind of
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: give the impression like, okay, you're rushing the passer at
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: like a seven or eight. Right. Sure, I don't think
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: it's that close. I think they're not even above five. Now, Okay, now,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: this this week against the Colts offensive line, it's a
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: good offensive line, and the different style challenges you have
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to prepare for both styles of quarterbacks with Flacco the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: near statue at what forty something year, the thirty seventy
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: five years, I'll make him older than he is. He
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: carved this team up last year. And then Anthony Richardson,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: who can move around and throw the ball seventy yards
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: and all these things in what zip code? He doesn't know?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Two different styles and as a pass rusher, which you were,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I mean that that can be. That's two different Well,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, if I if I was a defender,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have Anthony Richardson. You would oh yeah all day.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Why is that? Well, he's His completion percentage is worse,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the worst in the National Football League. His interceptions are
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the most in the National Football League. He'll give you
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: a couple. He's he's struggling. I mean, he's exactly what
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: everybody thought he was gonna be when he was coming
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: out raw and a superior athlete that hasn't learned all
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the details of playing the quarterback position. That's exactly what
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: he is. There are certain throws that he makes that
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: are just like, holy cow, did you just see that?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You know, forty yards down the field and he puts
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: it on the money and it's a rope. And then
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: are other throws that he makes that are just like
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: routine throws and he airmails them and he doesn't know
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: where they're going. And so I think, if you're Jaguars defenders,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, give me the young guy. At the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: same token, if I'm pass rushing, I want Joe Flacco
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: anywhere anywhere you right there, and he's not gonna move
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a whole lot. And so I kind of know exactly
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: where my point is going to be with Anthony richards
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: that I'm a little hard or hesitant to commit because
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: if I go here, he might take off and go there,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you know. So you know, it's kind of a catch
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: twenty two. Each guy's got their their strengths. But man,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I again, overall performance wise, if I'm I want to
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: see Anthony Richardson, I just don't think he can handle
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the offense. He doesn't read defenses as well as Flacco will.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, the injury that Anthony Richardson had in this
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: past game against Pittsburgh Steelers in Indianapolis look to be
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: significant in that hip area. They're calling it oblique. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: saw Anthony Richardson. I don't know about you. I saw
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: him grabbing for his hip, his right hip. Yeah, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: would technically, how far does the oblique go down?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Ah?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I don't have an answer.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: He's grabbing on the hip, so I mean wear a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: hip and oblique change. I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You don't remember too, just the way that And this
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: happened at Florida with him too, with Richardson that, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: mean he had a bunch of soft tissue ham strings
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: like all kinds. And he only started with thirteen games there. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: he contributed a bunch the first year, is like off
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the bench guy. And then he had him and Henry
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Jones back and forth. But then you know, he was
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: deemed up a lot. Yeah, I don't know. I wish
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: he was the way the way they play him with
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: a quarterback run game here. I mean, he's an aggressive guy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: He's six five, two fifty like he's a big guy.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And here's the other reason why I would like to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: see Anthony Richardson is, uh, they're running back to little
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: beat up okay, and and Taylor is arguably one of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the best running backs in the league. Jonathan Taylor, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: mean just stud He had a high ankle or an
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: ankle injury towards the end of that game in Pittsburgh
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: this past weekend, and I think it's a big, really
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: big question mark whether he's gonna play or not. Well,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: if Anthony Richardson plays with him, the running game is
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: more dangerous if Jonathan Taylor were to be healthy because
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of the threat of Anthony Richardson running. But if Jonathan
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Taylor is not gonna play, which maybe that's going to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: be the case this week, And if you're the Colts,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: would you want to have the guy that can read
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the defense a little bit better and throw it problem
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: will Flakos? Sure. So we'll get to the injury report
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: coming up in just a little bit. Don't want to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: spoil it now, but it's out there. We'll get it
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: to you here in just a little bit. But the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: one thing that is consistent no matter who plays quarterback,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts offensive lines a pretty good group. Pretty
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: good group. Now TJ. Watt had him spinning a little
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: bit this past game. I watch he does film exactly,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: he does it a lot with with everybody. But now
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: they did not have their starting center Ryan Kelly. In
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: this pass game with the neck, they played a fourth
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: round pick rookie Bordolini as opposed to RIGATONI. Okay, all right,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: how do you do? He's okay, he's he's a little soft,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: a little undersized, needs some years to get some strength.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But I mean he's he moves well and he gets
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: where he needs to be. Sometimes he just doesn't have
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: that that anchor. But I mean that's a good group.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at offensive lines around the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: National Football League, this might be the right on par
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: with the Buffalo Bills offensive line. This is a good
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: offensive line. Praise. That's challenge, I mean, it's the challenge
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: is challenge. And then the questions for the Jaguars at
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: linebackers too. If in trem Miller has been playing, Chad
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: movement played last week, Devin Lloyd was out. We'll see
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: if if he can get back on the field this week.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, Voye's out for at least a couple
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: more weeks. So and then the secondary has had some
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: injuries as well. Obviously, Yeah, what's what's Savage? What's his
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: status going to be for this question? Question? We missed
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: him and then I think Tyson Cable has one more
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: week on IR and then he can start his window
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to come back. Well yeah, I mean, and here's the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: thing with that. I mean, he was on he missed
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of time last year, and then when he
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: got back, he wasn't back one hundred percent, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: so you want to make sure he's right. But you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: look the Indianapolis Colts. It's amazing the first three games
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: with Anthony richards And I was looking at the numbers
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in the first three games from Michael Pittman junior, who
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: they give it they give a big truckload of money
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to in the off season. In the first three games
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the year, he had eleven catches for eighty eight yards
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and not a touchdown. Still doesn't have a touchdown, by
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the way, But in one game with Joe Flacco, for
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the most part, he had a couple. He had one
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: big pass play from Anthony Richardson early in the ball game,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: but the rest of it was Joe and he had
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: six catches for one hundred and thirteen yards. He surpassed
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the first three game toll in one game essentially with
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. So well, again, who do you want Okay,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: let's go to Josh Downs. There are other I'm slot scatter,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: wide receiver kind of their Christian Kirk. In the first
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: three games he had three catches for twenty two yards.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: In this past game with Joe, he had eight catches
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: for eighty two yards in a touchdown. So ask me
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that question again, JP, who do you want to see
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: a quarterback? Yeah, if you're a receiver for the Colts,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you want to see Joe. I have an idea who
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: they want. Yeah, you want to see Joe if you're
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Michael Pittman or Josh Downs. You know. But I don't know.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: This team needs to win though. I mean they're and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say they're closed. I mean they've
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: they've got to start making plays in different areas if
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: they're going to expect to compete and expect to win.
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  Speaker 3: You know, obviously you're gonna you're gonna go through some setbacks,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: you know, in this league, and and there's gonna be
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: some some times where.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: You know you're gonna you're gonna you're.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Gonna come out some hard times. I mean, that's just
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: that's just part of this game. I've been there before,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I've done that before, and we've always you know, battled back.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, even you know, even when we
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: were three and seven, you know, twenty two, we've found
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: a way to win a game and win win multiple games,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: and and that's all it takes, you know, And I
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: think I think too when you look at it, and
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: if you really look at these games, you know, like
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: with a call Mai and study the tape and see,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I mean it's there's mistakes, Yeah, there's mistakes. Are they
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: critical at times?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're critical at times, But there's a lot of
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: good as we talked about the other day, and you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: that's what we have to lean on, and we just.
• 28:18
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• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Hi, Hello, gentlemen.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: How are we? Oh? We are well? I am well, Jeff,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you're well. No, I'm not well. Oh, I'm well. He's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: not You're very well. Hi, the Jaguars are not well.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: There would say they are so unwell right now? How
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: do they get well?
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: When? Would help? Right? I think what I have been
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: trying to look at it, if we're going to be
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: positive about it, is if I looked at just the
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Texas game Texans game without looking at some of the
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: other things we saw this season, I wouldn't feel as
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: bad about things as I do right now. So that's
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: what I'm trying to do, is we always talk about
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: it week to week, right so if I'm looking specifically
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: at what they did last week. I think there are
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: good things there that can be built off of, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: then if we can eliminate which it's always been my problem,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: the silly mistakes and the small things which add up
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: to big things at the end of the day, just
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: focusing on that is huge. Plus you're facing off of
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: again's a very delete depleted Colts team, so I know
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: that's there's nothing guarantee with this team right now in
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars, but you need to take advantage of that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Those matchups as well as didn't.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Matter against the Browns, did it and when they had
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: backup tackles team tackle right? Yeah, so that was another game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But no, I appreciate your positive approach. I mean, cheer
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: me up a little bit there, because you're right. If
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you focused it on just the Houston game, you would say, hey,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: competitive team, that just fell a little short at the end,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But that gummet. I mean, you had a lot of
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: chances there at the end. It wasn't like you just
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: had one chance that you felled on. There was multiple
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: at the end that you had a chance to make
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that a two score game as an offense. And then
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: at the end of the game, you had a chance
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to shut the door and slam it closed as a defense.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just frustrating. And you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the frustrating thing of all for me from that past
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: game was that you had a huge run by Tank
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Bigsby first and goal at the four, didn't get a point.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: You ain't get a point. That's not good. And quarterback
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: drawing worth down.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Which I'm sure you could see from up in the
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: press box, that's what was gonna happen.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I mean to go empty. I mean kind of a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: ding ding bells go off. I set it in the air,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: quarterback draw, Here we go.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Could he have if Trevor saw you think he could
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: have scored if he went to the be gap instead
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: of well yeah, or do you think that's.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Not The Texans defensive tackles were zero Russians here. They're
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: essentially power rushing the guards and sheriff got pushed back
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and his guy comes off. It's Trevor. Could Trevor have
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: been better? Sure he could have been better, but I mean,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: just it just drives you nuts. I mean, you got
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: first and goal at the four and you don't get
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: in and we're in a two point stance on the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: first play. Two pen in Sheriff is a two point stance,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and another plays like you only needed a yard, Let's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: go three point and run it. You know, at the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: end of the day, football is still a physical for it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It's and I know it's a passing league now, but
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: there are still moments that it has to be physical.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And to me, that should have been a physical moment.
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• 32:39
  Speaker 2: A lot of backup players getting time on defense these days,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: all the injuries and you know what, hey, Monteric Brown,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Ventre Miller, Ventre Miller, both guys kind of stepping up
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and playing in a big spot, and it seems like
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: they're going to have to do that at least for
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: another week or two.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I love Jeff's perspective. If Josh can't play this week
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: because he's in Josh Heindell concussion protocol, what's the plan there?
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: What do you think the plan will be? Because also,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, as we discussed when they were doing final
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: roster cuts, there's a lot of defensive lineman not a
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: ton of edge in general, so there's not a lot
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: of depth. What do you think they might do there?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Well, they list Eric Armstead as an edge defender.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: But sure, but then you only I mean, he's.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Been a defensive tackle for the majority of his career
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and I think that's where he should be. I mean,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: he's not an edge, true edge player in my mind.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So if Josh couldn't go, I would expect Eric Armstead
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to be one side and then Trayvon Walker on the
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: other side, and who rotates in Roy Robinson Harris for
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: one of the other defensive tackles. But again, these are
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: guys that don't threaten the edge with speed. I mean
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Eric Armstead does not threaten the edge with speed. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: mean that's the whole reason why they call those players
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: edge defenders. That means they threaten the edge. Well, if
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you're three hundred and twenty pounds and you run a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: five flat, you can't threaten the edge. So did Miles
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Cole do that? There? Is he too ross? He's raw?
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: You know he's he's raw. He's a procut of guys
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: on the roster here. There's really no other edge defender
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: on this active roster. There's not. I mean, in my book,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: that's a lot of tackles.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: So if you don't have the personnel, obviously I know
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: you're not Ryan Nielsen, but how do you try to
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: do stunts? Do you blitz? What do you do?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: They can They've done some stuff with you Cyra Abdullah
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: on the outside, and he's done a pretty good job
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: when he's been given the opportunity to bring pressure on
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the outside. They do like a what what's what's called
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: like a spinner package is three down and then he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: kind of moving all over the place. But hopefully you
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: know the Josh can play. But if he did limit,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: he totally understandable.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: He did practice today limited, So that's better than what
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: we saw earlier.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Did it's a stickpe.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: You got to take the steps though well, and.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Tray Von's got up. He's got steps game up. When
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I say step his game up, Trayvon does an excellent
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: job against the run, and that's great, but you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: reality is is that you didn't draft a guy first
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: overall to be just good against the run. He had
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: ten sacks last year. He had two in the first week.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: One of them was kind of a gimmy, the other
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: one was a really good rush. But since then he's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: been quiet. And this is not the time to be quiet. Okay.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: When you have four consecutive losses or three consecutive losses
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: or two consecutive losses, your A players, which get the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: amount of money you're making, and then also your draft status,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: it kind of has to implicate how much production you're getting.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And right now you're not getting a lot from Trayvon.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, good against the run, but I can
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: find a lot of guys that can be good against
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the run. What the guys that are difference makers are
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: good against the pass, and that's where Trayvon needs to
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: have his impact felt and and and felt. Now, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's it's time. The time is now Week
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: five zero to four record is a showtime guy for
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: a for boxing is uh, I'm not Michael buff Buff
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Brother it Brother Ye, Bruce, Bruce Buffer Ding Ding Ding
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Drillda got it tonight, Jaguars All Access Strings Sports Brewery
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: in Springfield. Who you got? Guy?
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Christian Kirk back with us tonight. He's always a great
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: guest to have, and he's stepped up, I think recently,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: so I'm sure I have a lot to say.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: It's always how did Trevor miss him on that pass
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: in that game? You can ask him at night. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, just yeah, put it right there,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and it's everybody's hands are up, you know, we all know.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, Christian is a guy who goes about his
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: business the right way all the time. I don't think
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: there's any doubt about the way his process goes. It
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: might have been a little bit of a scuffle early
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: in the season, but hopefully the last week or so
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: has been a step in the right direction for him.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I think so. And just obviously that consistency when he's better,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Trevor is better because of him and their relationships, So
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: hoping that means more development on the offensive side of
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: the football. And hopefully we see some scoring on Sunday.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: They got to find a rhythm, though, I mean, they
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: got to start finding a rhythm as an offense. I mean,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: they've got too much talent for them to be as
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: productive as they are right now. Got to be better,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and it starts with the quarterback. Got to be better.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Sixteen's got to be better. If sixteen is not better,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: this team won't win. He's got to be patient this
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: week now, and sometimes when you're pressing, it's hard to
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: be patient. This is going to be a real test
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of a game, just from a maturity standpoint, And that's
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: not really a category that I worry about with Trevor,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: because I think he's a pretty mature person, a mature player.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: But look, everybody's human, you know, And sometimes when you're
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: not playing well and you're not doing well, you kind
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: of want to swing for the fences a little bit.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And this is not a week to swing for the
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: fence with this defense that you're facing. You've got to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: be happy. Dnkin and Duncan okay, Dinking and Duncan okay,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and then hopefully something pops. They're not going to give
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you stuff over the top. I can see the concern
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: in your face. Lot. Look, man, it's Legends weekend.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, do we have time for do
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: we have time for a quick Tom Coughlin story, because
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: we were talking a ton about Tom Coughlin this morning
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: on Jagsam and Brian was telling me how when you
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: were the players rep, you always had to go and
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: fight with Tom about certain things.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: A few times.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: How that go?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It was always fun. It was always fun, but a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of respect for him. And what
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: was the biggest fight, the biggest way.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: The fight like he's mostly my way or the highway?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, here, did you ever give in on anything?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Here's one story? Yeah, okay, you want one person or
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: one that was a team story? It's a team real quick.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Then won't be long. So in nineteen ninety five we
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: had a Chamber of Commerce dinner, okay, you know, which
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: is great. You know, it's a great opportunity to meet
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: people in the community. The whole team was gonna go.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Coughlin made it mandatory. I had to go. Yeah, well,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you know, and as a player it was scheduled on
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: a mandatory day off. Okay, So there, in fact lies
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a violation. You can't make something
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: mandatory on a required players twenty four hour period. Off
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: all the players would come to me okay as vice
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: president of the union and also the union rep and
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: said hey, you know, and I'm like, look, let's just go.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I said, because it's the first year of the team.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It's a great opportunity for us to show unity, to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: get out in the community and to make contacts with
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: people in our call. Okay, let's all good. Okay. So
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I got everybody to go, okay, which I didn't have
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to do. That got everybody to go. And you know
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: what Tom did? Did he find multiple guys for dress
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: code violations.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: At the event?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yes? What was the code? He play his usual dress code.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: So I go like, did he like take notes, Like,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: did you see something? He's like, he's not wearing a polo,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have a tie on.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You had to wear socks, you had to wear certain
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: kind of shoes, you had to wear tie.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: He's like looking under the table.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: So I got I got guys coming to me like
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the next day and they're like, hey man, we we
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: went and then look at look here, and you know
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: they're showing me their fine letters. You'll find that dress
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: code violation. I went down Tom, knocked on his door
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: and walked right in. I said, what in the world
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: are you doing? He said, what do you mean? I said,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you had a Chamber of Commerce dinner on a player's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: day off. And I said, and I got everybody to go.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And I said, I could have told everyone of them
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: stay home. It's on our one of our scheduled days off.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: He said, now you're going to find guys and throw
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that in my face. No, he rescinded the fines. Oh,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: you were sending the five.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Good work.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Here's one time. And I actually had a dress code
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: violation myself.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, on a road trip road break.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: And I, you know, you had to have, you know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the shoes, and I had all that on and I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: wore a Texas tie, a bolo.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Did you have the hat?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: No? No, no, just a bolo. Okay, it's pork coat,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: dress shirt, bolo. And it was my great grandfather's polo, so,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you know, little part of me just go by it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: And my great grandfather was a ambassador to different countries.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It's like, spoke like six different languages. Very educated, you know.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm wearing a bowlo and all that kind of stuff.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I get a fine for it. I went in this
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: office and what the hell is this? He said? What
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: do you mean? He goes, you didn't have a tie on?
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I said, do you not know what a Texas tie is? Tom?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you would be wearing a cloth tie?
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I said, cloth tied? Not that. I said, that's a
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: classy tie. Okay, So anyway, So the funny part is
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the next year when his rule book came out, been
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: written in it said you must wear a cloth tie.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: He changed the language to read cloth tie the following year,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six, because of my Texas tie? Have
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you worn a Bolo tie since? Yeah? Okay, I'm just
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: making sure decorating thing. You know, Kai, we got a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: good story or two out a log study. We got
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: more but what Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: You've got a couple more blocks of the show.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: You very Saturday night. I think there will be some
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: stories told about Tom Koff's Yeah, Kai, well have Uh
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: what am I trying to say? We'll see you later,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: have a great show.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Thanks so much.
• 42:43
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• 42:44
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• 43:02
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• 43:05
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• 43:15
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• 43:30
  Speaker 2: and get his thoughts. On Week five and an zero
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to four start for the Jaguars. Time out for the
• 43:36
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• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Good and we'll start with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Why not
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: A bunch of names on the list this week this
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: year of DULA with the next issue limited both days
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday. Linebacker of course, running back Tank Bigsby's
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: shoulder issue limited both days. Wide receiver Gabe Davis shoulder
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: issue limited both days. Tight end Evan Ingram him string
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: issue limited both days. We'll see if he can make
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a jump on Friday. And let's get Jeff's microphone on
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the Travis Et and Jr. Shoulder injury limited both days,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Jari and Jones cornerback, shoulder limited both days, Darnell's Savage
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: safety quadriceps limited both days. And then Josh Haines, Allen
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: and the concussion protocols did not practice Wednesday limited today.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: That's a step in the right direction. That's I think
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: if he's full tomorrow, I think he could be cleared
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and ready to go. And then Devin Lloyd with a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: knee issue didn't practice Wednesday limited today. I talked to
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: him in the locker room today. He's confident he'll be
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: able to play on Sunday. But today's Thursday.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: A couple couple of things. You could tell that Jarion
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Jones was a little cautious about entering the fray, so
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: to speak, this past game with that shoulder. I mean,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and look, if you're hurt, you're hurt. I mean, sometimes
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta protect yourself. Gabe Davis didn't really
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: notice anything about him. It was at the end of
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the Buffalo game, right, wasn't it. Yeah? And uh he
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: he didn't have a whole lot of involvement involvement this
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: past game. I mean Trevor had had missed him a
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: couple of times. But uh, but yeah, I mean the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in the injuries, I mean the interesting one there you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: see Abdullah with a neck. I mean you're you're a
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: little light at that position. Yeah, right, you know, I mean,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: what do you have five on the active roster linebackers
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: because of Foyer going to I r uh so if
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you see Abdullah, I mean maybe a practice squad elevation
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: maybe in the offing. Uh And I don't know that,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: but you has done a pretty good job. Kudos to
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Ventro Miller firs first career start. I thought he played
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: pretty well. It wasn't perfect. Some of the zone drops
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: he got he got burnt on, Like there's two of
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: them that I can think of that that weren't great
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: by him. But I love the way that he can
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: play downhill. I'm talking, I mean down is that the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: sound he makes when he runs, it's amazing. Wow, we'll
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: hear that again. That's fast. He had a play it
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: was the tackle for a loss, and it was a
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: play to the opposite side of the field to where
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: he had to fight through traffic. And how many linebackers
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: that you know of can make a tackle for a
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: loss on the other side of the field. There ain't many.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: There's not many. And I was very impressed with the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: way he played. A good start for somebody's first career
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: pro start. And Devin Lloyd, I hope is available this week.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I know he had what was it a knee to knee, yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: kept him out of the game, and I saw him
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: out there pregame warming up. Wasn't sure if he was
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: going to be able to go, and then we were
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: notified that he wasn't going to be able to go.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: So hopefully he's fine this week. And you know, the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: other thing, too, is darniell Savage. Man, gosh, he's he's
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: so good in coverage. He's a he's a difference maker
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in coverage. And I hope he's available. And I'll make
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: this prediction this week will be the first week that
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars defense gets its first takeaway of the season.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Takeaway all right, not special teams, defense, defense, Joe Flacco,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: who I expect to play. Joe will throw you a
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: couple I'm serious, He'll throw you a couple interceptions. You
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: just got to catch them. Let's get to the Colt side.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: The injury report. Speaking of that, Anthony Richardson with what
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: they're calling an oblique injury. Hip areas what was reported
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: during the game at least last week. Limited both days
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday. Say you're Franklin the linebacker has an illness.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Didn't practice Wednesday, full today. Yeah. Ryan Kelly the center
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: with a neck issue, hasn't practiced yet. Kenny Moore, cornerback
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: hip injury, hasn't practiced yet. Quitty Paid defensive end Quadra
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: said injury. Hasn't practiced either day. Tackle Brayden Smith was
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: out Wednesday with a knee issue, full today. Grant Studard,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: the linebacker a heel injury. Didn't practice Wednesday, full today.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor has not practiced either day, Wednesday or Thursday,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the running back for the Colts with an ankle issue.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: That's huge, that's big. Yeah, he's a good player. He
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: he he had oh gosh, he was wearing out the
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers and then late in the ball game he
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: ends up getting kind of twisted up in the backfield
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: with a linebacker coming in and from that point he
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: was out. But he he's a you know, there's not
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: many running backs in the National Football League that I
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: think are worthy of getting a lot of pay. He's
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: right there. I think at the top. All the running backs,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: they're gonna love you. I mean, they get mad. I mean,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: but the reality is I mean, look at the pay.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at what they're getting paid around the league.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I mean it's uh, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. But he's one of the
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: one of the best ones. There's one in Philly, there's
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: one in Indy, there's one in San Francisco when he's healthy.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think is there another one that you can
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: think of. I mean, there's there's few and far between. Yeah,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I mean that's that's kind of the three main guys, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I can't think of Jon Robinson Atlanta. John's really good. Yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: he's really the credentials. Yet he's still pretty young. Yeah
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: he's he's got there yet, but he's got the ability,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: but he's not there yet. Uh. We got about a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: minute and Doug Peterson's coming in here into this room
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: for the Doug Peterson Show, and hey, they're owing four.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: At some point, they've got to not be oh and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: whatever anymore. They've got to get a winning result here well.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: And I think part of the discussion that we're going
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: to have with him is also going to be not
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: just about how do you finally get a win, but
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: how do you go about of handling the psyche of
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: a team that's oz and four, Because I think that's
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the biggest challenge is coaching an zero and four football team.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: And I know that there's reports out there about he's
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: lost the team, but I think those are hogwash. All Right,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: we'll hear from the head coach when we come back
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: The Doug Peterson Show next to the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the Jaguars Happy Hour.