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The Runescape Membership Situation Is Insane · Wall Friends

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  You're gonna start by saying you're pissed, aren't you?
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  No, I'm not pissed off today. Very happy.
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  You're happy today. Very happy?
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  Yes, Because here's the thing. OK, Kev, Yeah.
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  We got rid of the pores. We did it.
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  They're not allowed in in Runescape anymore.
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  You're. Real success.
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  Yep, real success story. This is the.
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  Game I've been, I've been dreaming of for so long.
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  We finally have it no more. Ports.
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  Oh man dude, good moves all around.
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  All around, everyone's happy too, which is the crazy part.
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  I can. Tell You can tell a lot of
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  people are celebrating in the streets.
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  The atmosphere is never been better.
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  People are massing up because they want to show their support.
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  I've never seen the community come together in such a
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  wholesome way. I actually did about one year
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  ago and then about two years ago.
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  So I, I think that this is like a yearly celebration.
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  It seems every time something like this happens, people,
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  people voice their their support in it.
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  Or maybe it's another thing. It could be another thing.
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  Maybe maybe you and I have this wrong.
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  No, we've never gotten that or anything like that wrong you.
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  Don't think. No, I remember very clearly
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  you're talking about September 2024, beautiful month for this
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  community. Everyone was holding hands,
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  parading around saying nothing could be more perfect.
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  That's right it. Was a good time for everybody
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  and I'm glad we get to experience that again less than
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  two years later. Very blessed, I like it.
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  I think that much is clear. Like I I, I get that you you
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  love it at this. Point man, I can't get enough of
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  this. Yeah, I'd hate to be AJ mod
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  right now. Yeah.
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  It's so dude I think I saw a post on the old school Runescape
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  subreddit somewhere, maybe it was just or maybe it was on the
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  regular runescape 1 I don't remember, but someone was just
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  like man the radio silence of the J mods every time something
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  like this happens is really eerie.
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  Eerie. Eerie what?
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  Do you want them to say? Yeah, dude, it's like they just
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  have to. They don't like it.
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  They were basically just like placed in place of a punching
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  bag. Basically they're like, that's
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  right. The the higher ups, the people
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  that don't even enter the Jag X office, They just they place
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  them in front of everybody and say take it all for us.
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  Just absorb it, enjoy it while it.
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  Lasts the nicest thing. You're right.
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  The nicest thing about it, it's for no extra money still.
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  Like that's, that's the coolest part.
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  Yeah, yeah for dude, yeah, for free.
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  Let the community, you know, mods, let the J mods who control
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  the community hold the control who discuss with the community.
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  Let them just take every bullet possible.
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  Yeah, that's the smartest move. If they're lucky enough from
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  these membership changes, these these higher prices that will
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  inevitably cause more profit. If they're lucky enough, they
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  might just get laid off. That would be really nice for
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  them. They're really things are
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  looking up for them over there with this, this new change.
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  Let me ask you this, OK, so when when you when you heard when you
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  heard that they were getting rid of monetization in Runescape 3,
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  how quickly did your brain make the connection that this is
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  where they were going in X months?
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  I mean, I knew that they were gonna do this.
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  They've never given like a straight up number of how much
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  Runescape 3 MTX itself brings in.
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  Because I think on those like those reports, like the the
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  yearly Jag X revenue report, it always just says
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  microtransactions, but it doesn't specify which game
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  they're from and bonds and shit like that.
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  Like those are classified as microtransactions.
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  So we don't know how many bonds are being purchased by old
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  school versus like treasure hunter keys from Runescape 3.
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  So that's what a lot of people thought They're like, OK, yeah,
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  we got rid of MTX. So, you know, they had to do
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  this. They had to up the membership.
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  But MTX and Runescape 3 is still very much there.
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  It's live. It's just simply different.
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  Like it's not as it's like a lot of.
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  Cosmetics now, right? It's, it's like more so
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  cosmetics and I think they're also getting rid of like like a
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  lot of 'cause there was like cosmetic overrides and stuff
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  too. So they're like they're changing
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  fundamentally how they work over there from what I remember.
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  But you're still very much paying for it.
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  I think they still have the stars which are like the double
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  XP bonus XP or whatever. So they I think you could still
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  get those right now. So it's not, it's not like
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  they've. Had 100%.
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  Completely eliminated it. Yeah, it's not gone.
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  I think they're probably going to see how this works out for
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  them and see what the numbers look like down the road before
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  they say, OK, we can get rid of the stuff that's left or they're
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  going to. Say run that shit back.
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  Run that shit back real quick. We actually really like that.
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  We actually made a lot from the increase in memberships.
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  We're going to go ahead and also add in MTX and have a hell of a
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  good year. Yeah, dude, it's crazy right
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  now. I was at, I was at the riots.
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  There's plenty of those. They might still be happening.
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  I don't know. I didn't check today.
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  They probably. Are they're?
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  Probably there. Yeah.
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  That was fun. It's all Riots are always fun.
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  Yeah, but. They always work, which is the
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  nicest part about them. They always work.
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  You know what's funny is the the one that I actually did see work
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  really well, surprisingly well, was the the 117 HD, if you
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  remember that when when they were threatening to close that
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  project and completely make it not a thing.
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  Yeah, people rioted and then, I mean, it was obviously more than
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  just a riot. Talking about specifically in
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  game because out of game it obviously like works like
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  voicing your opinion is a good thing out of game.
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  I'm talking about Falador like in game.
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  So so you you feel as though Falador in game was the specific
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  driver. No, I think it was just one of.
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  The you would think it was that happened.
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  It was. Yeah, because it was a big riot.
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  That was like a huge riot for 117.
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  It was, I think I saw more people for the 117 riot than I
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  did for this one. In people's heads.
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  They're like, I'm not going to go to a members worlds to
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  protest membership. So that's why this for this
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  specific reason, the riot probably wasn't as big as 117,
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  but it was still pretty large and people were saying some
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  pretty awesome stuff per usual. Yeah, a lot of nice, not a lot
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  of nice things, but yeah, I guess we you want to just go
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  through it, you want to start going through this, this.
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  Craziness I would I would love to see because I I saw a little
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  bit of it I had two thoughts my first thought was are you
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  fucking kidding me? But.
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  I could put this at the beginning, I could cut this part
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  out even though we've already been recording for.
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  I don't even. How long is it?
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  A long time. Yeah, I'm going to put this at
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  the like towards the beginning. I'm just this part.
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  If I cut it out, I'm going to say like the video that way
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  before people leave, if they, you know, are messed up in the
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  head and would do something like that to us where they would just
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  leave before we're done talking, you're that they would do that
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  not done, then we're going to say like the video now here.
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  They take that cup off the wall because this is not a podcast
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  and you're listening through your wall to us speak.
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  Yeah, it's also that, yeah. Yeah, also.
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  That. Stop being weird about it
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  people. And my second thought is why the
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  fuck am I still paying for five accounts?
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  I only use two. So, so I, I now only have
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  membership on my one account and I am just going to use bonds for
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  the rest of it, which I don't know if that's like a, you know,
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  you're, you're still part of the problem.
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  I guess technically speaking, I, I might be, but like, I don't
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  know if you've ever, you know, just been having a subscription,
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  just kind of go out of your account every month and then you
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  look, you're like, holy shit, I've paid that fucking much.
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  This basically made me go and look and be like oh this is
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  stupid of me to be paying for this many accounts as is.
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  Dude, how many? People, this could be going to
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  diapers. How many people just fucking
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  smashed the right arrow key thinking we're about to segue
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  into a rocket Money ad? Oh my God, yeah, maybe.
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  But no, we're not He's. Like dude people have heard this
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  exact sentence I. Bet like so many times.
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  You're right, you're right. Like I'm more than happy to say
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  this is stupid. Like this is a dumb thing that
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  they've done. We're going to, I've crunched
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  the numbers and we're going to look at all of them.
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  I've gotten down all the percentages, all the history.
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  I've looked at other subscription services to see how
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  much they've gone up in the last four years to kind of compare.
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  I'm ready to. Fucking your homework for this?
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  I did some homework and we're going to go through it, but.
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  I, I, I just went as far as to cancel my own subscription.
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  DD you were like, I'm going to look at every subscription I've
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  ever seen. Yeah, I was looking.
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  I'll give. You credit.
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  The thing is, I haven't paid for my own Routescape subscription
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  in a very long time. Well, there you go.
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  I I don't deal with it because Jag X allows me to not deal with
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  it because I have that privilege.
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  Because I'm awesome, because you're awesome.
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  I've done a lot of shit. I've probably paid them a
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  hundredfold back in getting people subscriptions over the
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  years. Look, all I'm saying this would
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  be the time if they were, you know, did this and then added
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  like a creator code or something and then discounted it back to
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  the old price. I mean, that would that would be
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  the time to be like, well, OK, look, it's not great, but at
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  least they're giving us a discount.
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  It's. Not great.
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  I think I have like 4 members of my main, you know, you know,
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  same situation as you were saying that is like paid for
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  everything else is not getting paid for anymore other than, you
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  know, like one account basically.
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  Yeah, but like I also just, I'm just going to be using bonds
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  cause I'm not, I'm not paying money.
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  Yeah, $15.00 a month or whatever the fuck.
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  No, it's not happening. I can't I.
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  I'm a cheap ass that way I guess.
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  Even on any account that I need to put membership on, even when
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  like walnut and spud and even flooding when they're playing
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  with me for the the group Iron Man or something.
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  I just use my main accounts money to just get them bonds and
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  pay for it. Like I could not tell you the
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  last time that I actually went in and put.
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  Signed up with. Info and like pay for a
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  Runescape membership, like I couldn't tell you.
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  We'll go through it and we'll see what's going on.
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  This is actually really funny. The very first thing we see is
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  active monthly grandfather rate subscribers unaffected by
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  membership price changes. And I'm just going to go over
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  here to this link. The top loaded just subreddit
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  Jag X quietly changed me to a 12 month recurring killing my grand
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  grand grandfather rate despite no membership lapse for 20 plus
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  years. Oh my.
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  God, that's got 7 and a half thousand up votes on Reddit
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  right now. Wow.
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  Yeah, things are not looking great for for the grandfathered
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  accounts. I've seen hundreds of these
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  posts on Twitter and on Reddit. Yeah.
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  So that's a really bold statement to lead in with, but
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  thank you, valued. Runescape member, you gotta
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  yeah, thanks for being a valued Runescape member and here's why
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  I hate you, dude. You gotta feel bad for the guy
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  that that had to write all this 'cause you know, it's not like
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  it's not the higher ups that are writing this, right?
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  Like they reviewed it, I'm sure. But you gotta feel bad 'cause
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  he's like, you know, he's like, so you're sure that like the
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  active monthly grandfather rates are going to be unaffected,
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  right? Yeah.
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  And they're like, yeah, don't worry, just put it down first
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  line. That's how confident we are. 7
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  1/2 thousand up votes later, that might not be true.
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  I. Don't want you to stress that I
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  don't like, I don't want you to worry about it, about that
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  persons well-being because ChatGPT doesn't feel a thing.
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  OK, so really you think it's? I think no one wrote that.
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  This this soulless paragraph was clearly not written by a human.
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  Maybe it was. Maybe.
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  Maybe you got to force yourself to be a little bit robotic if
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  you're forced to put something like this out.
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  Yeah. I mean, they've, they've written
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  this like this for years though on on topics like this.
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  Yeah, it's so I'm willing to, I'm willing to lean either way.
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  Yeah, they've got on on who own structure here.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they.
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  Oh my God, that's the M dash right there.
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  What M dash? Is that not the M dash?
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  M dash right here. Yeah, you, you might be right.
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  You might be right. Oh my.
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  God, Oh my God. OK.
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  All right, well. Yeah, I got a side, I guess I.
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  Don't think I have one of those on my keyboard personally, but
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  it's no. Wow.
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  All right, little discovery. We'll give them the benefit of
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  doubt, don't worry about it gassing themselves up a little
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  bit to start. You kind of have to hear about
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  what they've done and they got they got the new skill sailing,
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  they got this Continent, Varlamore Leagues and Yama.
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  Do you remember Yama? You remember Yama, right?
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  Do you remember them? We did that.
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  I. I would argue like doom is like
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  probably just as important as Yama, like in terms of like what
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  it drops like it drops best in the slot.
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  Like I love Yama. I think Yama's a phenomenal
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  update for, you know, for what it's worth.
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  But why? Like, well, I guess they're
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  saying leagues in Yama because like, like, you know, it's going
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  to the new league is going to be Yama.
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  But like, I don't know, it, it, it feels a little a little like,
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  fuck, just throw Yama in there too.
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  Like leagues Yama. You remember that one?
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  I was like, oh fuck, what else have we done, Yama?
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  We did him this year, right? Yama?
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  This. Year so like 4 examples is
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  plenty. Let's move on.
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  Yeah, as well as significant improvements to player sport and
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  anti cheat. This is a bold move.
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  Anti cheat is a bold thing to throw in there considering.
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  I just. Recorded a Gary video and the
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  biggest bot farm I'd have ever seen in my life.
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  Just casually hoarding onions at Farmer Fred's farm like.
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  You found a bot farm that's that's.
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  They just pick. Onions.
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  They just pick onions. Hundreds of them are just
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  picking onions. I don't I don't know what
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  they've they've figured out that I don't know about but it's
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  that's shows just how prevalent they are literally everywhere.
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  Anti cheat not boastable yet. I know their numbers are
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  probably impressive. I know that they ban 10s of
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  thousands probably every week, but.
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  To them, I'm sure they feel good about it.
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  Yeah, I'm. I'm sitting here being like, I
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  don't know about all that, like like players support dude.
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  I remember seeing that they have like some chat bot now or
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  something and like I, I know very little about it.
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  Basically one of the only things I know about it is it
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  effectively tells you to fuck off.
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  Chat bots do not fucking help at all.
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  Yeah, they're not great. They're not so player support.
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  I'm going to go ahead and say I don't believe you on that, but
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  you know, maybe you believe me and I'm glad that you believe.
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  It. I don't believe it.
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  Yeah, moving on, moving on. We don't believe you.
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  Really don't. So we got Rd.
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  They've they're talking about a road map, which I'm guessing
• 16:26
  it's just yeah, this this one. Yeah, this guy.
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  Right. So if we really look at it, a
• 16:34
  lot of people, you know, they didn't necessarily love dead man
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  mode. I think it was the more popular
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  one. I think it was the most popular
• 16:41
  one. Yeah.
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  So I don't know if I would say that is, I don't know if like
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  that's that's technically a thing you can put up there.
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  I played it right. I'm not sitting there going like
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  I'm not sitting there pointing to it on the road map and being
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  and being like, no, I'm not doing any of that leagues.
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  I'm not, I'm not looking at most of I think leagues.
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  I'm excited for summer sweep up. I'm not like yes, charge me more
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  feature, yes take more of my money.
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  First of all, leagues, I'm sure it's going to be fun.
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  I'm not sitting here and doubting any of the quality of
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  the work that they do. I love the devs, no problems
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  with them, but I'm not sitting here, you know, based on this,
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  you know, based on what is being said, they're saying an exciting
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  new road map right there, right? And if you go back to it, I'm
• 17:35
  going cool. Leagues will be fun.
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  Blood and moon rises, that will be fun.
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  I'm not sitting there going, well, yeah, they're going to
• 17:42
  charge me more a month, but at least I have the bingo community
• 17:44
  feature to look forward to. Three out of the six of these
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  things, even though you can obviously tell based on how they
• 17:51
  sized it, are like exciting. The other three I like.
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  I'm glad. They should have made them
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  smaller. They should have made them
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  physically smaller based on my interest in relation to them
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  raising membership prices for this very specific tangent.
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  Otherwise, I'm glad they're doing shit in general.
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  Just like as the the development team.
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  Great. I have no problems with the road
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  map, but the moment you put it alongside the I'm paying more
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  money for this thing. Yeah, that's you just made it
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  more of a product in my mind and it was always a product.
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  I know, but like you're, you're making, you're taking me out of
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  the fucking world of Gillenor, dude.
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  I'm not sitting here thinking like, oh boy, new new quests and
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  new everything. I'm going, Oh boy, I got to work
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  more now to fucking pay for it a little bit.
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  Got to work more. You're changing the fucking the
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  structure to charge $15.00 a month.
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  There hasn't been a fucking actual real PvP update for
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  fucking years dude. For years.
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  Off to a poor start in terms of wording.
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  Let's look and see what they've done.
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  Let's see this disaster that they've put upon us here that's
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  caused outrage like I really have never seen before.
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  This is probably the most rage I've seen from the community in
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  really I dude, I I don't know, I don't know.
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  I feel like it's. Always like this.
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  I feel like it's always like this this.
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  Feels more intense for some reason.
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  I feel like I'm seeing a lot more this time around.
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  Is that you think it's just recency bias though?
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  Or it. Could be, it could absolutely.
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  Because I remember this and then I guess, yeah, probably the last
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  time it was really intense as well.
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  It just something feels different about this time.
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  But maybe you're right. Maybe it is recency bias.
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  Yeah, here's what they they got to Click to expand it.
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  They, they, they want to they. Knew they had to hide that.
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  They're like mentally, mentally prepare for this when you open
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  it, like take a deep breath. So now one month is $15 if
• 19:46
  you're just paying monthly. If you're getting the year, it's
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  going to be 11 a month, 132 per year.
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  Yup, bonds are 10 each. I They were definitely not ten
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  before, so that's got to be new as well.
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  I remember that being like 6 or 7.
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  These are the new prices. I I don't know you know how true
• 20:07
  these exchange to be equivalent to USD, but I'm assuming they're
• 20:11
  pretty similar. So yeah, I'm, I'm assuming this
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  is an International Crisis, not just UK.
• 20:19
  That's an. American.
• 20:20
  One, yeah, it's probably more. Some of these are probably, it's
• 20:23
  probably a more of an increase than what we're dealing with.
• 20:25
  So that sucks for them. Not me though.
• 20:28
  Here's why people are pissed. OK, let's get into that.
• 20:32
  These are my numbers that I've crunched.
• 20:34
  I've worked very hard for 45 minutes to get this some
• 20:37
  information. Love it.
• 20:38
  A whole 45 minutes. Goodness me.
• 20:42
  So let's let's see here back in May 2022 cost $80 for the 12
• 20:48
  month, I think that they called it Premier back then, which came
• 20:51
  out to be 667 per month, less than $7.00 a month for a
• 20:56
  Runescape subscription. That's like that's so valid.
• 20:59
  That number, Yeah, that is so valid.
• 21:01
  That's. Almost what it used to be back
• 21:02
  in the day. Yeah, exactly.
• 21:04
  Like I'm, I'm cool with that. That's why I used to pay for so
• 21:07
  many memberships, because I was cool with that number.
• 21:09
  That is fine, $80.00 a month or a month?
• 21:13
  No, I'm going to replace what I said.
• 21:15
  I'm going to go $80 a year. Yeah, I don't think I pay $8 a
• 21:18
  month, just. Yet for a month, not yet.
• 21:19
  Give it another three years like another 3.
• 21:22
  Years. We'll come back about this in
• 21:23
  three years. But this is actually really
• 21:26
  funny. What made me think of this?
• 21:27
  So my World of Warcraft video like the Mega 1 I first did I
• 21:30
  start that video out with a joke about getting.
• 21:36
  Yes. I remember Warcraft
• 21:37
  subscription. Yeah.
• 21:39
  And I go, oh, my membership ran out, you know, let me let me go
• 21:43
  see. And I just got done talking
• 21:45
  about how it's $5. It was $5 a month for the first
• 21:47
  time I ever got membership. And I look over and it's it's
• 21:50
  1249 a month. I'm like, it ain't $5 anymore.
• 21:53
  And I'm and then I switched to Wow and see that it's still $15
• 21:56
  after all these years and. Is is it still the same price?
• 22:00
  Wow. Yeah, wow is still 15 a month
• 22:02
  and they do have an annual like. And they give you 65 fucking
• 22:05
  characters, by the way, 65. I'll get into it.
• 22:09
  I know, I know there's a lot we're going to be able to say
• 22:12
  about this. I really understand that where
• 22:15
  this conversation is leading, but I have to jump the gun there
• 22:19
  a little bit. Like I can't not the.
• 22:21
  Reason I thought of that so much is because I used to get so many
• 22:23
  comments saying dude it basically almost is $5 a month
• 22:27
  you just have to pay annually. It's like 667 and that ain't the
• 22:30
  case anymore. So with this if you paid for the
• 22:33
  annual discount rather than paying monthly for 12 months
• 22:37
  then you would save 40. It's a 46% discount for a year
• 22:42
  which is awesome. That's amazing.
• 22:44
  Everyone should have been doing that if you plan on playing for
• 22:47
  a year or more like that should have been what you did.
• 22:50
  Like if you are a long time player.
• 22:52
  That is a really good discount, Yeah, why should I say was?
• 22:56
  Was a good discount. So then September 2024, so a
• 23:02
  little over 2 years later, the annual goes up a 24% increase to
• 23:11
  nearly $100 a year, which comes around 829 a month.
• 23:16
  Then monthly goes up, monthly goes up about a dollar and a
• 23:20
  half, 14 a month not. Great.
• 23:22
  Not great. People were very upset.
• 23:24
  I remember this. I covered it on on the channel.
• 23:27
  I can't remember the channel. It's still 40% annual discount.
• 23:33
  Very worth doing, I think. You know, yeah, the prices went
• 23:38
  up, but relative to if you just kind of sat there with 12 months
• 23:43
  of membership, like you're paying monthly, 12 months, you
• 23:45
  forget about it. You should have done the annual
• 23:48
  and saved yourself. Yep, $68 or whatever.
• 23:52
  Look, 40% discount. All in all, at least not
• 23:58
  terrible. Yeah, it's still it's still 829
• 24:02
  a month. Not fucking great.
• 24:04
  Not great, but you know what? Not as bad as this next fucking
• 24:08
  number. Nowhere near.
• 24:10
  Wait till you hear what? I'm about to say annual is now
• 24:14
  $132.00 a year. You give them credit, it's 100
• 24:20
  and 3188. No, I'm rounding up.
• 24:22
  They taught me to do that. They taught me to do that in
• 24:24
  school. They said roundup.
• 24:25
  If it's over 5, yeah, it's a roundup.
• 24:28
  If it's over 5. Yeah, if the five that's.
• 24:31
  A good rule. That's basically what I'd do.
• 24:33
  Yeah, they. They were trying to teach you to
• 24:36
  not fall for marketing. 1999 right?
• 24:40
  Sounds a lot better than 20. Oh yeah.
• 24:42
  But miles better. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:45
  It's. Functionally.
• 24:47
  Fractionally slightly cheaper than.
• 24:51
  Let's go on. Let's move on, all right?
• 24:55
  100 and 3188 for the year, which is a 32% increase from the 8:29.
• 25:03
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the last one, that's a
• 25:05
  that's a 32% increase from what it was in September 2024.
• 25:09
  Yep. So now since the monthly has
• 25:12
  gone up to 15 a month. That is vomit inducing.
• 25:16
  You're only saving 27%, So what used to save you 46% on a year
• 25:23
  of playing is now only saving you 26.
• 25:26
  So that sucks. That's so much more fucking
• 25:30
  valid to get mad Yeah at that shit like that's the.
• 25:35
  Biggest reason? To be more valid.
• 25:36
  Yeah, because if you were 11. Dollars a month.
• 25:40
  Is that Is fugly all right? There's no other way to describe
• 25:44
  that. Fugly.
• 25:45
  Yeah. Disgusting.
• 25:49
  Disgusting. Terrible.
• 25:51
  So 12 month membership, the price itself, the 65% increase
• 25:59
  in four years. Now if you were paying monthly,
• 26:03
  like you have somehow just continued paying month by month
• 26:08
  for the last four years what you are paying every year with your
• 26:12
  monthly payments in May 2022, it's only gone up 20% of an
• 26:19
  increase. Which this is what I saw on the
• 26:21
  Runescape three Reddit because Runescape three guys OK, they've
• 26:24
  been manhandled by Jag X. They've been tossed against a
• 26:28
  wall, bullied, fucking shaking their lunch money out.
• 26:30
  They've been punched and spit on like they are so used to abuse
• 26:34
  at this point that they're like. Saying thank you for this, thank
• 26:37
  you for that bad. I play all the time I'm.
• 26:40
  Still going to be rocked over there.
• 26:43
  Yeah, dude, the Runescape. Over there like it's another
• 26:45
  fucking country, by the way. Yeah, this is the Runescape
• 26:51
  Reddit. Anyone here not quitting?
• 26:53
  Anyone. You're not quitting.
• 26:55
  Anyone still going to play? Lol yeah Oh here it is.
• 26:59
  That's the one I saw. Yeah.
• 27:00
  Having all the J mods go radio silent is always weird.
• 27:02
  Always weird, yeah? Yeah, yeah.
• 27:05
  So I mean, it's a very different vibe over here because they're
• 27:08
  not, they're used to this. Yeah.
• 27:11
  I feel like they, they've been here so many times in different
• 27:15
  scenarios. It's not new to them.
• 27:19
  So yeah, people are still mildly upset, but they're not like OSRS
• 27:26
  upset right now. Like old school community is
• 27:28
  like fucked up currently. Oh, there he is, classic.
• 27:34
  Let's bring him back. Yeah, a lot of people calling
• 27:41
  out mod N Yeah, OK. Oh dude.
• 27:45
  Look at them, they're crying because that guy cancelled his
• 27:47
  membership. Crying.
• 27:48
  Crying. What?
• 27:50
  That guy is on the left. He's like, are you kidding me?
• 27:52
  He quit. Yeah.
• 27:54
  It's OK. It's OK.
• 27:56
  Yeah, Come back. I bet he'll.
• 27:58
  Be back soon. Don't worry, you can't.
• 27:59
  Yeah, why? The man is in denial.
• 28:01
  We're used to this kind of stuff.
• 28:02
  We don't like it, but. That is the perfect image dude.
• 28:05
  That's that's exactly what this is like.
• 28:07
  Fucking dude that that's like the equivalent of like, like,
• 28:10
  like they they've all been run over by like at least one car
• 28:15
  and like, like now they're getting like run over by like a
• 28:18
  fucking bike in their mind, right?
• 28:20
  They're like, look, this isn't that bad.
• 28:22
  Like you guys don't mind? By a bike.
• 28:24
  You see that giant fucking car? That shit hit me.
• 28:26
  I'm alive. Yeah, I'm fine.
• 28:28
  So get over it. That's just a bike.
• 28:30
  They're all limping along in crutches.
• 28:32
  Like dude, I've I could take this, it's fine.
• 28:35
  I could take this. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:39
  And this is sort of oldest meme in the book.
• 28:43
  Just yeah. There's 1.5 K votes, they got
• 28:47
  nothing to talk about over here. Yeah, they this is not a big
• 28:50
  deal to them when this is getting the top of the page a
• 28:52
  day ago, like the day when the most outrage is happening and
• 28:56
  they're just making the same meme they're.
• 28:58
  They're lasting there like 15. Years.
• 29:00
  They're like, you guys remember 15 years ago when we all got
• 29:03
  hacked because we wanted a dragon scimitar?
• 29:06
  Yeah. Cool.
• 29:07
  Yeah. Cool, but then you go over to
• 29:12
  the old school runescape subreddit and it's a little
• 29:14
  different now the first thing here's this is interesting Tor
• 29:18
  Vista fire shots everyone congratulate my friend who just
• 29:20
  got 99 thieving and it's Jag X with a thieving Cape.
• 29:23
  It's been a little weird seeing like I get it.
• 29:25
  I get why the creators are, you know, speaking up about it,
• 29:28
  which they should you know we will too.
• 29:30
  But. We already have.
• 29:31
  What do you mean? Yeah, that's what I'm saying
• 29:33
  like. Unless, unless people just skip
• 29:35
  to this and just pretend like we haven't talked about it yet.
• 29:38
  Yeah, you, but you know what I mean.
• 29:39
  I'm like. Yeah, yeah, I, I get what you're
• 29:41
  saying it it's a weird position for a content creator to say
• 29:45
  anything because it's like, obviously we're treated a little
• 29:49
  bit better than, you know, than than the general audience.
• 29:53
  And they do sometimes give out membership to us, which is,
• 29:56
  again, it's a nice thing. I don't.
• 29:58
  I hope that never goes away, obviously.
• 30:00
  Yeah. But it's still a good thing to
• 30:02
  call it out. I feel for anyone still.
• 30:04
  Stick up for the boys, you know what I mean?
• 30:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. The more people losing their
• 30:08
  renewal date or whatever like they're.
• 30:10
  Just I that's the one I did. I saw that one.
• 30:13
  None of this has surprised me so far, very obviously.
• 30:16
  This guy's doing some crazy stuff.
• 30:18
  Dude, I opened a formal complaint against Jagax with my
• 30:20
  local consumer protection agency for breach of contract.
• 30:23
  It was quick, easy, and I encourage others to do the same.
• 30:26
  Oh, probably because like, like the grandfathering thing.
• 30:29
  I guess so. Yeah, yeah, whenever you see
• 30:31
  like that shit pulled out, you see like a new like web page
• 30:35
  pulled up, you know, like something like that.
• 30:37
  You're like, damn, I would hate to be Jacks right now.
• 30:39
  Like that shit sucks, bro. You can't even blame them again,
• 30:43
  you can't blame them because this at the end of the day,
• 30:45
  you're being reminded that this is a product, right?
• 30:48
  Like no one, no one wants to be reminded that it's a product,
• 30:52
  right? Like, we all obviously love this
• 30:54
  game. That's why we're all passionate
• 30:55
  and pissed off about this shit. But it's like the more you
• 30:58
  remind people that you are paying for a product, the more I
• 31:01
  feel it takes you out of the world.
• 31:03
  Yeah, you know what I mean? You wanna be so in the world
• 31:07
  that you're not even noticing that fucking 1299 a month
• 31:12
  wherever, wherever it was previously or no, no it wasn't.
• 31:14
  It wasn't even that, it was fucking 1240. 9.
• 31:17
  Yeah 1249 a month. You only want to notice that
• 31:19
  shit leaving your account because you like I had so much
• 31:21
  fun in this game today and I'm going to do it again tomorrow.
• 31:24
  You can only abuse, you know, your, your player base so much.
• 31:29
  I can at least get behind one increase within like 5-10 years.
• 31:34
  But like if you're going to do this this often where it's, as
• 31:38
  you said, it was like a 64% increase from 2022 to 2026.
• 31:43
  Yeah, it's crazy. Eventually, people are gonna
• 31:45
  actually just be done. Yeah, a lot of people missing
• 31:49
  these old days of 20/17/2018 for 949.
• 31:53
  Dude, do you remember the $11.00 crab meme?
• 31:56
  Like do you remember when that happened?
• 31:58
  Because. Yes, yes.
• 31:59
  That was crazy. Like that's why the crab exists,
• 32:01
  like $11.00 like crab like that's why that's where that
• 32:04
  came from. And it's so funny saying like,
• 32:06
  Oh my God, it's so. Far it's been 15-15 dollars.
• 32:11
  It's crazy. Dude, there's no way no one's no
• 32:13
  one's pulling out the crab anymore.
• 32:15
  Like the crab was like that was like, oh man, we have to pay 11
• 32:18
  like that sucks. Get him crab everyone,
• 32:21
  everyone's like I'm going to fucking kill you guys as you do
• 32:24
  this. No, it's not cute anymore.
• 32:27
  It's not cute now. The.
• 32:28
  Crab's in a cave crying right now.
• 32:30
  Dude. The cat or the crab does not
• 32:31
  want to dance. He's sad as hell.
• 32:34
  Yeah. Two raised an inferno for 949 a
• 32:37
  month though. It's crazy.
• 32:38
  Just fell to my knees and old escaped.
• 32:42
  That is really. Fun.
• 32:42
  Oh yeah, look at the crab. Oh, no.
• 32:44
  All right, right, the crabs are back.
• 32:46
  The. Crabs are back.
• 32:47
  Crabs are back. We were celebrating.
• 32:49
  Yeah, yeah, I didn't say any of that before.
• 32:52
  Crabs are here to stay. Back to like the, the percentage
• 32:55
  of 64, you know, 65% increase. I did.
• 33:00
  I did a little looking around just just to see what other
• 33:04
  companies, what big companies out there have done for, you
• 33:07
  know, their increase for annual subscription discounts if they
• 33:11
  had them. For the record, none of those
• 33:13
  surprised me. No, the one actually Apple TV.
• 33:19
  Apple TV surprised me from the figure, but like, they started
• 33:23
  off really cheap so yeah. They did.
• 33:25
  It was really cheap, like surprisingly.
• 33:27
  Cheap. So the like that, I think that
• 33:29
  figure is a little more alarming because what is it now?
• 33:31
  Is it like $15 or? I think so, yeah.
• 33:34
  Yeah. I remember just crunching all
• 33:35
  the percentages with them, but I didn't like write the original
• 33:39
  ones anywhere. Maybe there is for them to be
• 33:41
  annoyed with Apple TV. I'm sure.
• 33:43
  Like I'm not going to defend fucking Apple.
• 33:45
  It's. 1299 a month annual cost 100.
• 33:48
  Wait, right now, yeah, not to sit here and defend Apple, but
• 33:51
  the 100 and 7% that that figure would be a little misleading
• 33:55
  alongside something like Disney Plus, because Disney Plus,
• 33:58
  that's just fucked. Oh dude yeah that one's a real
• 34:01
  1. Disney Plus is is crazy.
• 34:04
  That's a 72% annual discount increase cost.
• 34:07
  So that's from their annual plan.
• 34:10
  Let me see discounts or whatever.
• 34:11
  Plan is starting at 1199 for the ad supported basic plan while
• 34:15
  the ad free premium is at 19 dollars.
• 34:19
  Yeah and or 190 a year. No discount by the way.
• 34:23
  You are a douche if you think that you're going to get a
• 34:26
  discount. Yeah, fuck you.
• 34:28
  Yeah. And then there's like all these
• 34:31
  bundles too, with like, Hulu. Yeah.
• 34:33
  It's like, it's like, I think it's like $32 a month for like
• 34:36
  Hulu and Disney Plus together. It's like, I really wanted to
• 34:39
  cancel my subscription because I was like, I don't watch Hulu.
• 34:43
  Like, I don't watch fucking, you know, anything on Disney Plus.
• 34:47
  Then I have a kid and it's like, well, and I, you can't now you
• 34:52
  got to have that Disney magic and they know that.
• 34:54
  Dude, I'm fucked. They do.
• 34:56
  They know that. I'm going to be paying $96.00 a
• 34:59
  month, so I could fucking stream Frozen Three, Yeah, and I'm
• 35:02
  going to have to be OK with that.
• 35:03
  You're going to have to love doing that.
• 35:05
  Yeah, it's very important. It's an an essential part of
• 35:08
  being a parent right now is giving Disney a lot of your
• 35:11
  money in ways that you don't even expect.
• 35:13
  I think Xbox Game Pass realized that they they were giving it to
• 35:16
  people a little too good, I think because they it was really
• 35:19
  like it was. It was cheap.
• 35:21
  Right. It was cheap and it gave you
• 35:23
  like every game to ever exist just whenever you wanted.
• 35:28
  And I think people, especially in the age of streaming, were
• 35:30
  like all aboard that. So yeah, I think they were like,
• 35:33
  yeah, we got to start charging more here because we realized
• 35:35
  that all of you can't live without this and we want more
• 35:38
  money. So I think that's what that.
• 35:40
  I'm glad I have not touched my Xbox in years but like I do not
• 35:43
  like Microsoft bro they're not good.
• 35:45
  No, they're not, dude. They're not.
• 35:47
  No, not not a lot of these big companies, these billion dollar
• 35:50
  companies are great if you ask me.
• 35:53
  But that's maybe that's my crazy mind you.
• 35:56
  Can't say that dude. Leave.
• 35:58
  Leave the billion dollar company alone dude.
• 36:00
  Well, if they if they pay me money to say that they're nice,
• 36:02
  I'll say it. Don't worry about.
• 36:03
  It to be fair. Look, if Microsoft wants to give
• 36:07
  me, they want to buy my house for me and you know, yeah.
• 36:13
  And then say here you go just to say you guys need the Xbox Game
• 36:17
  Pass. Oh, yeah.
• 36:18
  I think everyone in this position would be like I love
• 36:21
  the Xbox Game Pass for $98 a month.
• 36:24
  Jag X has kind of joined these guys in in this in this average
• 36:29
  here. They're definitely I think on
• 36:31
  the on the higher end. I obviously this this is just a
• 36:34
  little the little little chunk we'll pick here, but pretty
• 36:40
  crazy dude, it's pretty crazy. And then they.
• 36:43
  I like how you you summarize it too in that document.
• 36:46
  You're like the result? People are pissed.
• 36:49
  Everyone's pissed off, dude. Everyone's pissed, Yeah.
• 36:52
  I think everyone, I think anyone could draw that conclusion from
• 36:55
  those numbers. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:57
  That it's the only reasonable response, I think.
• 37:00
  Yeah, oh FAQ Dude, people love these.
• 37:03
  Oh yeah. Oh, I know.
• 37:05
  It's so funny here yes, check this out.
• 37:09
  Why are prices changing and they talk about most major Mmos rely
• 37:13
  on expansions, bypass or Christian aggressive
• 37:14
  monetization and then at the bottom how does the support for
• 37:20
  the future of the game? Most Mmos rely on expansions,
• 37:22
  but I'll pass another. Methods.
• 37:24
  Yeah, nice little copy and paste action through this FAQ.
• 37:27
  I would get pissed if I had to sit there, read through all of
• 37:31
  the grandfathered stuff. I'm like, OK, well at least I'm
• 37:35
  not affected. And then you just go and check
• 37:37
  and you actually are very much affected.
• 37:39
  Yeah, this seems to. Be very happy.
• 37:41
  Everybody. This is affecting so many people
• 37:45
  and half of the frequently asked questions are about
• 37:48
  grandfathered. The three month and the six
• 37:50
  months. So it's now either one month or
• 37:52
  a year, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 37:54
  It's ridiculously moronic, by the way, Like of taking away.
• 37:58
  So yeah, why? Yeah, I'm curious about that.
• 38:02
  It must have been a case of like there's just not enough people
• 38:05
  choosing these. That's my guess is there's just
• 38:08
  not enough people to justify like keeping it because the disc
• 38:11
  they're they already are trying to avoid people realizing the
• 38:14
  discount percentage going super down and these ones already
• 38:18
  didn't offer a great percentage compared to the annual.
• 38:21
  So they're probably like, let's let's just scrap them And if
• 38:25
  people want to look at that, maybe get.
• 38:27
  Rid of the three month but why the six month?
• 38:29
  Yeah, that's confusing. That doesn't make sense.
• 38:32
  What if I, I want to commit to playing this game for half a
• 38:35
  year? You should be thanking me for
• 38:38
  saying I want to play this game for the next 6 months.
• 38:41
  Yeah, I might, I might. I don't know.
• 38:44
  I don't know. Not happy about that and I've
• 38:46
  never bought it so maybe there's a point to it, but I'm.
• 38:49
  I think taking away options is stupid in my opinion.
• 38:52
  I think so too. This is where we're going to
• 38:55
  talk about the the fun stuff. This is going to be talked about
• 38:59
  a lot. I think it's already being
• 39:00
  talked about a lot because they they brought this upon
• 39:06
  themselves because of these bullet points.
• 39:10
  You know why is 12 month membership changing?
• 39:14
  Continues to be our best value option.
• 39:16
  They bullet it. Yeah, renew at the updated 12
• 39:20
  month price. Continue to offer one of the
• 39:23
  largest discounts versus 12 monthly payments in the MMO
• 39:26
  category. Provide 12 months of membership
• 39:29
  for the price of nine on average.
• 39:30
  That's not as good as it used to be, but this is the bullet point
• 39:33
  that is going to bite them in the ass.
• 39:36
  This is going to get people talking because they're already
• 39:38
  talking about it of the Runescape membership price
• 39:42
  compared to other Mmos. And comparing Runescape to other
• 39:45
  Mmos historically is tough because of how different
• 39:50
  Runescape is as a game. Yeah.
• 39:52
  I, I don't, I don't think it's a valid thing to, because there's
• 39:55
  a lot of different aspects of old school Runescape that you,
• 39:59
  you, you cannot compare. It's always apples to oranges.
• 40:02
  As you're saying, this is an MMO, but it's such, it's such a
• 40:06
  wildly different MMO that you can't just sit there and pretend
• 40:09
  that it's like, oh, this is, you know, look at Wow, look at like.
• 40:15
  You know, Club Penguin, Yeah, I don't know.
• 40:17
  I don't know that many Mmos off the top of my head.
• 40:20
  Yeah, it's like Final Fantasy, like a lot of the class based
• 40:22
  stuff, you know, the Final Fantasy and, and Guild Wars 2
• 40:26
  and. World of Warcraft?
• 40:28
  Not the same thing. So the biggest thing that people
• 40:30
  bring up, I know you haven't played much of like the class
• 40:34
  based Mmos, but I, yeah, went through a binge of playing like
• 40:38
  Star Wars, The Old Republic and Wow and just kind of
• 40:41
  experiencing this, this whole thing.
• 40:44
  It's called an altaholic is what they call it because it's
• 40:47
  essentially altaholic. And it's essentially when you
• 40:50
  are so giddy about the early game of these, you know, class
• 40:57
  based character Mmos that you start a new character, you pick
• 41:03
  a warrior, you pick a mage, and you start trying out the class,
• 41:06
  you Start learning the things and you start feeling that early
• 41:09
  game dopamine. You're going, you're going, you,
• 41:13
  you are really having fun. But then you think to yourself
• 41:16
  in the middle of a of a fight and you go, man, I wonder what
• 41:19
  those other classes spells are like.
• 41:22
  And then you exit to the screen, the, the character screen and
• 41:26
  you make a new one. And you do the exact same thing
• 41:28
  with that. And that's for a casual player,
• 41:33
  that's probably one of the biggest, you know, catches of
• 41:37
  having the ability to make, you know, 60 plus characters,
• 41:40
  whatever they offer. But when it comes down to it,
• 41:44
  these MMORP GS that allow you to make these 60 plus characters,
• 41:49
  they're designed with the expectation that you're going to
• 41:52
  make 678 characters minimum because not only are you
• 41:57
  confined to the server. So if you logged into World 362
• 42:03
  right now into a character, that's your server that you have
• 42:07
  to either pay them money to get your character transferred or
• 42:12
  you suck it up and you stay there.
• 42:14
  That's how characters are in those games.
• 42:17
  It's it's not the freedom that people are making it out to be.
• 42:21
  So it's a little different there and you're stuck to your class.
• 42:25
  That's an unchangeable thing. When you make a character, you
• 42:27
  pick a class that's your class, like you are.
• 42:30
  Maybe there's some Mmos like I don't remember if Final Fantasy
• 42:32
  lets you do that, but I'd imagine they just want you to
• 42:34
  make a new guy too. But I could be wrong.
• 42:37
  I haven't played it in depth. But that's typically what it is,
• 42:41
  is is they want you to get to the end game.
• 42:43
  They start your, your, your raiding loop to get your best in
• 42:48
  slot gear and things like, you know, World of Warcraft, they
• 42:51
  limit how many raids you can do each week.
• 42:54
  You could do 11 of each raid a week.
• 42:57
  You can't, you can't just keep doing it like you do in
• 42:59
  Runescape, like, you know, OK, let's go do TOB for six hours
• 43:03
  and then you do TOB, run back in, do it again, run back in, do
• 43:07
  it again over and over until you get what you need or you get
• 43:09
  your achievements done or you make money.
• 43:12
  You can't do that. And World of Warcraft, at least,
• 43:14
  I again don't know about Guild Wars 2 or Final Fantasy or the
• 43:17
  other big ones, but there's a lot of things in those games
• 43:22
  that have no parallel in Old School Runescape.
• 43:27
  Because in Old School Runescape, your character, there's a reason
• 43:31
  that it's called an account, because your account is a much
• 43:36
  larger time investment and expectation.
• 43:39
  It's it's a lot different than what a character would mean in
• 43:41
  another MMO. But in 2026, it's not this rare
• 43:46
  thing for people to have different accounts.
• 43:48
  All of us have different accounts that we play.
• 43:50
  We have Iron Man group Iron Man people do ultimate Iron Man.
• 43:54
  They do self restriction, chunk locks, whatever.
• 43:57
  They have their main account. That different builds type of
• 44:00
  thing, yeah. You pure as if those still
• 44:02
  exist. Yeah, well, they do, but no one,
• 44:05
  no one cares about him as much anymore.
• 44:07
  There's only one guy that does pure spam and I think that's it
• 44:11
  actually, I think. I think it's just him.
• 44:14
  Oh my God, is that what his name means?
• 44:17
  Yeah, pure spam, yeah. He just clicked after all these
• 44:21
  years that that's what his name means.
• 44:22
  He keeps making more peers. Yeah, it's because he likes.
• 44:28
  I've never thought more than just the letters of his name.
• 44:30
  Like I've never, I've just always said.
• 44:32
  Fundamentally disagree. Peers are not fun, by the way.
• 44:35
  They're just not. I like wearing armor and going
• 44:38
  look how cool. I like guys.
• 44:39
  There definitely needs to be some sort of compromise here
• 44:44
  with allowing membership to apply to multiple accounts.
• 44:49
  They I feel like that is an absolute must in some way.
• 44:53
  Any amount of accounts that's more than one would help Jag X
• 44:56
  in this situation. Yeah, I think people would
• 44:58
  welcome it at that point. They'd be like, you know what,
• 45:00
  like you got to do the give and take.
• 45:02
  People wouldn't necessarily be happy, but they're like, you
• 45:04
  know what, we're getting extra functionality out of the
• 45:06
  increased membership like that, that that's that's great.
• 45:10
  Continuing to offer one of the largest discounts versus 12
• 45:13
  month payments in the MMO category.
• 45:16
  That's not an impressive sentence.
• 45:19
  Like if you understand anything about they're trying to say a
• 45:23
  sentence and be like, look, take our word for it.
• 45:28
  We're doing better than the other Mmos.
• 45:31
  But don't look in police, do not look in what we're saying.
• 45:34
  Just take our word for it. Because like, the fact that
• 45:37
  World of Warcraft hasn't gone up even once and it's just
• 45:42
  consistently been $15.00, you can get 65 accounts, dude. 65
• 45:48
  fucking accounts. This little point right here
• 45:51
  continues off for one of the largest.
• 45:54
  Why did you bring that up? Yeah.
• 45:56
  Yeah. There's a moronic thing to say
• 46:00
  when other Mmos offer you multiple characters under one
• 46:05
  account. It's it's just such a weak point
• 46:08
  and I feel as though, again, you don't need to have three bullet
• 46:11
  points just cause of the three bullet points or more.
• 46:13
  It looks cool. I mean, it's, you know,
• 46:16
  necessary the. Last time this happened in
• 46:18
  September 2024, that was when all of those surveys and the
• 46:23
  whole kind of gauging the community thing was happening
• 46:25
  with Runescape 3 MTX, of them asking our opinions on MTX and
• 46:31
  what we think of certain scenarios of removing this,
• 46:34
  adding this, or, you know, all the things they were trying to
• 46:37
  gauge just to see what the community was thinking about it.
• 46:41
  And in that video when I talked about the survey and went
• 46:44
  through it all, I said, I don't understand why they can't just
• 46:51
  say, hey, we're going to remove microtransactions.
• 46:55
  This is how much microtransactions brings us in.
• 47:00
  We need to make up for that. And with our current
• 47:03
  subscribers, this is what we would need to charge everybody
• 47:06
  so that we could completely eliminate microtransactions and
• 47:11
  everyone's happy. If this is the solution that
• 47:12
  you, if you guys want MTX gone, if this is ruining the
• 47:15
  integrity, if this is ruining the game, if it's killing the
• 47:17
  game, here's the number that this brings in.
• 47:20
  It's an important number, it's a big number.
• 47:22
  And if we want to make up for that, this is what we have to
• 47:25
  do. This is our solution.
• 47:26
  This is what we needed to do. And I thought in my head like,
• 47:29
  that's, that would literally solve everything, but society
• 47:34
  won't let it happen. Like there's, there's so many
• 47:36
  formalities in place, There's so many things about disclosures
• 47:39
  and like, it's not a perfect world.
• 47:41
  So obviously they're not going to be able to do that.
• 47:43
  But I was just thinking to myself, like how dumb that is
• 47:45
  that they can't just be transparent about.
• 47:47
  Stuff, Yeah, the transparency, I think realistically that's maybe
• 47:52
  it's a bunch of board meetings for them or whatever.
• 47:54
  And maybe it's a bunch of like we need to clear this on every
• 47:57
  level. And if we can't clear on every
• 47:59
  level, we can at least come up with like a reasonable thing to
• 48:03
  say of like, look, we can't dive into the specifics.
• 48:07
  But again, we're changing the membership price to this
• 48:10
  because, you know, that is the calculation that we had to do.
• 48:14
  Outside of this issue. Jag X is a pretty good company.
• 48:19
  You know, All in all, I would say for for different aspects,
• 48:23
  like like the community is the strongest part.
• 48:26
  The J mods are, you know, a wonderful aspect to this game,
• 48:31
  right? They're they're very like, you
• 48:34
  don't have this in other communities.
• 48:38
  It's not even close. Yeah, it's not even close.
• 48:40
  The J mods do communicate with us a lot and it's like if they
• 48:43
  get stuff wrong, you know, like, you know what, we got this
• 48:46
  update wrong, we got this integrity change wrong, we got
• 48:48
  whatever wrong, we're going to fix it.
• 48:50
  They're very receptive to that and in that regard, they treat
• 48:53
  us like adults. But when it comes to something
• 48:56
  like this, for some reason, it it just switches again.
• 48:59
  Like they're talking to us like we're little baby kids, right?
• 49:03
  Like, yeah, why can't you just sit there and communicate to us
• 49:08
  in a much more succinct, you know, non corporate doublespeak
• 49:12
  way? Like, why do I have to sit here
• 49:15
  and read all of it? I don't need to read all this to
• 49:16
  know you're saying I kind of don't like you give me more
• 49:19
  money. I.
• 49:20
  Kind of don't like you. I don't need to see all this.
• 49:24
  Yeah, I get it. I I got it from the first four
• 49:28
  sentences. I get it.
• 49:30
  Is it? Would you say that it is safe to
• 49:32
  say like 100% but they have to do this because of the
• 49:36
  adjustments they're making to Runescape 3?
• 49:38
  Would you say that that's safe just to assume my?
• 49:40
  Feelings aside of, you know, the fact that they already make a
• 49:46
  metric ass ton of money from this game as is again, it's a
• 49:50
  very likely justification as to why they would raise the prices
• 49:55
  again after two years. But here's the thing.
• 49:58
  Realistically, I don't know if I can, you know, confidently say
• 50:03
  that them raising the prices, you know, is affected by MTX
• 50:10
  only because two years ago it wasn't and they raised it.
• 50:15
  So who was to say that this was not in the pipeline anyway and
• 50:19
  they maybe had to make adjustments like instead of it
• 50:22
  being like, what? Because it was used to be 130 a
• 50:28
  year or no, no, it's 130 a year now.
• 50:30
  It used to be like like a hundred a year.
• 50:32
  Who's to say it wasn't going to go to like 115 a year or
• 50:36
  something like that, right? It more than likely was, you
• 50:40
  know, a, a, a strong contributing factor, But I can't
• 50:43
  even say with confidence that they would have just done this
• 50:46
  anyway on some level at some point within like the, the near
• 50:49
  future. So it's, it's a tough, tough
• 50:53
  call to make, I would say. Yeah, 'cause I'm, I'm just
• 50:56
  thinking, I feel like if they had mentioned just the brief
• 51:00
  mention of like, did they mention MTX in here at all from
• 51:05
  Runescape 3 at all or no. So they didn't mention it.
• 51:08
  I feel like if they did, it would have helped their case
• 51:11
  just a little bit. If they if they had mentioned it
• 51:14
  and been kind of straightforward, even if it
• 51:16
  wasn't the reason, even if it was just a thing they had to
• 51:20
  pull out of their ass of why they did this, that would have
• 51:24
  been so much better. That is the.
• 51:26
  Time because they definitely built up like AAI would say,
• 51:29
  like some goodwill from that, right?
• 51:31
  Yeah, they were fucking Runescape three people for years
• 51:35
  with MTX. So the fact that they are like,
• 51:37
  OK, we're moving basically all of it, but eventually we're
• 51:42
  going to have to do some other stuff.
• 51:44
  Like if it's like a calculated move, then how come you can't
• 51:48
  add that into the equation? You think people won't figure
• 51:50
  that out? You think people wouldn't be
• 51:52
  able to make the the the leap of we removed MTX and then blank
• 51:56
  months later that we raised the membership?
• 51:59
  Like people are not dumb. That's probably one of the first
• 52:01
  things most people thought in this circumstance.
• 52:05
  Yeah, I think I. Literally use the goodwill of
• 52:07
  it. Yeah, they should.
• 52:09
  They absolutely should. They they were on track to be,
• 52:13
  you know, appreciated more for that sort of being more
• 52:16
  transparent, being straight up about things.
• 52:18
  I feel like that's yeah, you know, like you were saying, it
• 52:21
  kind of makes us feel like we're being treated like kids.
• 52:23
  And that is not that is not the demographic of this game.
• 52:25
  We are fucking. We are adults, dude.
• 52:27
  This is an adult ass game. And I feel like.
• 52:31
  We can. We can handle you trying to be
• 52:33
  truthful with us. If there was, if this didn't
• 52:36
  read like anything other than corporate doublespeak, I think
• 52:39
  it would have left a better taste in people's mouths
• 52:43
  overall. You're again, you're reminding
• 52:45
  me that this game is a product and that I'm a consumer of this
• 52:49
  product as opposed to I am a member of, you know, a game that
• 52:54
  I have played and loved for blank years.
• 52:56
  I'm like, I'm a valued member. You can't just say thank you
• 52:59
  valued member. Yeah, because that that's,
• 53:02
  that's an e-mail template. Yeah, right there.
• 53:05
  Give me at least some of the justifications other than we
• 53:08
  have to appease the the shareholders because that is a
• 53:12
  baked in conclusion that most people are going to come up
• 53:16
  with. And again, we're adults.
• 53:19
  I think we can handle the fact that, you know, there needs to
• 53:23
  be some changes at some point, you know, to especially for a
• 53:27
  company that is getting bought over and over.
• 53:29
  But just try a little bit of like talking to us as like a
• 53:34
  hey, yeah, yeah, we, we have to, we have to do this type of
• 53:37
  thing. I understand it sucks, you know
• 53:41
  from your perspective or whatever.
• 53:42
  I mean, obviously they would never you can never talk about
• 53:45
  the negatives of it. You can never imply a negative,
• 53:48
  but to you could have just said directly and there's no
• 53:51
  negatives attached to it. Doing this is integral for our
• 53:55
  business for XYZ reasons. We'll see if this makes the cut,
• 53:59
  who knows? Yeah, yeah.
• 54:01
  Imagine. Look, this is if we had a
• 54:03
  Patreon. This is the sort of thing.
• 54:04
  Oh. Yeah, this is a that's a Patreon
• 54:05
  moment. That's.
• 54:06
  The thing that would go on there?
• 54:07
  Yeah, I'll, I'll keep this in. We just talked about some crazy
• 54:11
  stuff that would have been. On.
• 54:13
  Episode We just this what we just said.
• 54:17
  There is no way that we are letting anyone who doesn't give
• 54:20
  us money here what we just said. So maybe we'll look into that
• 54:22
  soon, maybe a couple conversations from now.
• 54:24
  We'll look into something like that.
• 54:25
  You know, if you want to we'll see, we'll see some seekers say
• 54:32
  you got to you got to pay for things like that.
• 54:33
  That's that's for sure. Do you think that J mods are
• 54:36
  tired of this dude, this damage control portion?
• 54:38
  Like, do you think that they're just?
• 54:39
  Like they're they're not talking.
• 54:41
  You think it's a pretty silent workplace right now.
• 54:43
  You think it's eerie in there? Well, no, it's not like they're
• 54:46
  just sitting there silent. I'm sure they don't love it.
• 54:50
  I'm sure, you know, like, because again, the the thing
• 54:53
  that a lot of a lot of what Jags attracts, like they attract
• 54:57
  really like extraordinary talent because everyone loves this
• 55:03
  game, but they don't pay, you know, like they're, you know,
• 55:06
  getting extraordinary talent. They don't not paying the people
• 55:09
  what they should. So I think this has been said a
• 55:12
  lot if if this was used as a way to justify raising the cost,
• 55:19
  even if it was like a little bit of a bump of everyone across the
• 55:23
  company, like like all these different J mods employees and
• 55:25
  everything, if it was used for that, I think it's a much easier
• 55:29
  pill to swallow. Yeah, right.
• 55:32
  But yeah, like again, the reality is that unless there's
• 55:36
  something we don't know, the reality is it's not that.
• 55:40
  Yeah. So.
• 55:40
  They're not getting raises, yeah, which really sucks.
• 55:43
  I can't imagine, I can't imagine they're walking into the office
• 55:47
  happier than they were the previous day.
• 55:49
  No, no. But they've also probably known
• 55:51
  about this for, you know, a while that's been real good
• 55:54
  they've. Probably had a couple weeks to
• 55:55
  prepare. If they've had great days for
• 55:58
  the past three weeks, I'm so happy for them.
• 56:00
  But it's kind of like, again, that looming thing over their
• 56:03
  shoulder of like, we know this is coming or like, I had a good
• 56:07
  day in spite of the fact that bad thing is coming.
• 56:11
  Though I don't think this is a great move for anyone other than
• 56:17
  the shareholders. That's all I got to say about
• 56:19
  that. They let the devs ride the high
• 56:22
  of the cow boss and how much positive reception that got this
• 56:25
  whole time. Oh.
• 56:27
  Yeah, yeah. No, it's another $20 a year at
• 56:31
  the very least, maybe 30. I haven't decided.
• 56:33
  Yet, yeah, there's like, you guys enjoy this, we're going to
• 56:37
  give this to you as a gift. You can publish it, you can put
• 56:39
  that cow out, but just know. Cow out.
• 56:42
  It's a calm before the storm. They just, they, they gave it to
• 56:46
  him straight on. Put on your little cow suits.
• 56:49
  Yeah, have a fun time. You're going to hate your life
• 56:54
  in three weeks. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:58
  What'd you think of that update? What do you think of the cow?
• 57:01
  I like it. Did you beat the hard mode or
• 57:03
  whatever? I, I, I've tried it maybe 2
• 57:07
  times. Like like I, I think I've
• 57:09
  literally spent 30 minutes on it and I almost, there's two phases
• 57:12
  to it. I almost got to the second phase
• 57:15
  and I was like, I got videos to fucking make, man.
• 57:17
  Like, yeah, look, if, if people would have watched me, like if
• 57:22
  it would have been worth the time to put it in, I would have
• 57:24
  definitely like made the video because I like doing hard stuff
• 57:28
  in this game. But I've not, I've not had the
• 57:31
  time to sit down and do it. And I will do it.
• 57:33
  But like I I had too much editing to do so I just I've
• 57:37
  done it. But All in all, I think it's
• 57:38
  like, again, the all the these updates are great.
• 57:42
  Like they do a phenomenal job. The Jack mods do a phenomenal
• 57:47
  job at developing the content. So cow boss love it.
• 57:52
  Again, filling any areas where that that could use progression
• 57:58
  to teach early game mechanics like that to kind of go, Hey,
• 58:02
  eventually movement, you know, movement is important.
• 58:05
  Eventually you're going to realize that with all these
• 58:08
  other things in the game, I love it whenever they have a chance
• 58:11
  to fill different gaps of where people drop off.
• 58:15
  Yeah, and just enrich the game. I think it's a great thing.
• 58:19
  I also got the boss pet too. Yeah, I was trying to go for it
• 58:23
  a little bit, but after like 200 KC I was like, I I miss mining
• 58:27
  stars. I'm going to go do that.
• 58:29
  So would you believe me if I told you I lost 1.6 mil to the
• 58:33
  the normal boss, the Cowboys? How?
• 58:37
  So, so this is exactly how imagine right, I'm I'm playing
• 58:42
  right now. OK, I do this.
• 58:44
  I auto retaliate on right for 20 minutes at a time, 20 minutes at
• 59:00
  a time. And then I would peek back in
• 59:02
  and be like, oh, I died. I don't know why you die.
• 59:08
  Why? Because you'll never die if
• 59:11
  you're constantly auto retaliating after 15 minutes.
• 59:15
  It's the same thing with splashing after 15 minutes.
• 59:18
  If you have not interacted with your client in any way, it's not
• 59:23
  matter if auto retaliate's on you.
• 59:25
  Just do not fight. So I died 3 times and it was
• 59:30
  like, yeah, I was like God damn it, I died again.
• 59:36
  Were you like tending to the kid or something or what?
• 59:39
  Were you doing? Dude, I was downstairs making
• 59:41
  dinner. I was downstairs making dinner.
• 59:43
  Then I was eating dinner. And then I was hanging out with
• 59:47
  my wife and kid and I would just come up and I was like, oh, so
• 59:50
  sorry, honey. I got to go check the, you know,
• 59:53
  I got to go check something. She's like, oh, the cow.
• 59:54
  Yeah, I got to go look at the cow.
• 59:56
  I'll be right back. Yeah, that sucks.
• 1:00:00
  I didn't die to it at all. Actually, I did.
• 1:00:04
  Look, if you want to look at the scoreboard, that would mean that
• 1:00:06
  you're a way better player than I, and I'll just take that.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah, I died of the Galbos 3 times.
• 1:00:11
  You died no times. Yeah, did you get the 1.2 second
• 1:00:14
  kill? Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  All right, cool. We're tied for first, then died.
• 1:00:20
  For first US and another 60,000 people.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah, Yeah, we did good. It's real nice.
• 1:00:27
  I I'm glad that free to play got a, got a little something to do.
• 1:00:30
  Yeah, they, they kind of, they don't get much.
• 1:00:33
  They're just a, they're a money sink for Jag X.
• 1:00:34
  That's all they are. So it's nice to see them get
• 1:00:36
  stuff sometimes. Do you remember when free to
• 1:00:40
  play first came of the game and mod Matt K was like we got to
• 1:00:44
  charge them still? For that.
• 1:00:48
  When free to play first came into the game, you had to pay
• 1:00:52
  membership the access free to play.
• 1:00:54
  Really. Yep, that is a real thing.
• 1:00:58
  What? Yep.
• 1:01:01
  When free to play for. I'm sure it's on the wiki free
• 1:01:05
  to play. Was it a different?
• 1:01:07
  Price than regular membership. I'm going to go to the Cliff
• 1:01:12
  assignment there. So it was the same membership
• 1:01:15
  price. It's when it first came out.
• 1:01:18
  Look, someone else in the comments back me up on this
• 1:01:21
  please if you've made it thus far.
• 1:01:24
  Back me up if you remember this because it was not free to play.
• 1:01:28
  Worlds that people could play to like, restrict themselves
• 1:01:31
  essentially to free to play. There was there were free to
• 1:01:34
  play worlds that they added and but you still had to pay and
• 1:01:41
  that's. Crazy, I didn't know that.
• 1:01:42
  And then they added free to play.
• 1:01:45
  Unless my brain is poop and I'm not remembering this right.
• 1:01:50
  But I don't think it is so. So there was free to play worlds
• 1:01:55
  that were added, but you paid them money to get into them.
• 1:01:59
  There was nobody that played in them, maybe like 9 people for
• 1:02:04
  very good reason. And then eventually they
• 1:02:10
  introduced bonds in the old School Runescape.
• 1:02:12
  That's what mod Matt K said. We have to, if we want to have
• 1:02:16
  bonds in here, we need to introduce or, or if we want to
• 1:02:21
  have free to play, we need to introduce bonds.
• 1:02:23
  And then he had a graph. I don't remember what the graph
• 1:02:27
  looked like. It was like, like it was like
• 1:02:28
  one of these got a single fucking number on it right
• 1:02:32
  there. There was no numbers.
• 1:02:34
  And he said we need it. And then years later.
• 1:02:37
  Like just a line going up on a on a thing behind you.
• 1:02:41
  It was something like that. It was like like is this?
• 1:02:43
  Like AQ and A or something like. AI don't remember the stream.
• 1:02:46
  Thing where did this happen? I don't remember but I know
• 1:02:49
  people will know what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:51
  Like you think so? Free to play was in the game,
• 1:02:54
  but it cost money to go in there.
• 1:02:56
  In order for free to play to come into the game permanently,
• 1:02:59
  bonds needed to be introduced. Otherwise they just would not be
• 1:03:02
  able to afford blah blah blah whatever.
• 1:03:04
  That's what the justification was.
• 1:03:07
  Interesting, that's how it. That's how it worked out.
• 1:03:10
  That's why bonds are a thing. An old School Runescape.
• 1:03:14
  Yeah, and people are. The bonds are not what they used
• 1:03:18
  to. Be someone please confirm that I
• 1:03:20
  am not crazy and that is the timeline of events.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, some not. Someone needs to confirm that
• 1:03:25
  'cause I'm really concerned. Confirm that and be like, dude,
• 1:03:29
  I got you framed. Yeah, you're right.
• 1:03:32
  And here's a like on the video. I think the solution that I
• 1:03:36
  would start with maybe what they could do.
• 1:03:38
  I don't even know if this is a solution to literally anything
• 1:03:41
  but have it so that your Jag X account can have one main
• 1:03:46
  account and then the next account you need it needs to be
• 1:03:50
  either iron hardcore or UIM and then you can have one of each
• 1:03:55
  like you. You only get 1 Iron Man,
• 1:03:58
  Ultimate Iron Man, hardcore Iron Man.
• 1:04:00
  I like that like you get access. To all those like.
• 1:04:02
  You're buying. You're buying like like a
• 1:04:05
  package deal. So it's like $15 and you get 2
• 1:04:09
  accounts. You get membership for two
• 1:04:11
  accounts, but it can't be two of the same thing.
• 1:04:14
  Right, Yeah. You can't play 2 irons, you
• 1:04:17
  can't play 2 mains. You have to.
• 1:04:20
  All your accounts have to be different like that.
• 1:04:22
  I don't know if that solves any problem that they're worried
• 1:04:24
  about with people having multiple.
• 1:04:26
  Accounts, but that creates a problem for them actually.
• 1:04:30
  Like no doesn't we lose money? Fuck you.
• 1:04:32
  Well, yeah, that creates a problem, but they've got a big
• 1:04:34
  problem on their hands already, so I think that they might have
• 1:04:36
  to I. Think they think that it's going
• 1:04:38
  to go away and I am afraid that they could be right on that.
• 1:04:41
  I think they could be right as well.
• 1:04:43
  That's that's always a thing is that.
• 1:04:46
  Reality. I think that was probably.
• 1:04:48
  I guarantee you. But they were in a meeting, a
• 1:04:51
  Jagic staff, they, they gathered in that auditorium that we sat
• 1:04:54
  in and somebody sat up there and said, listen, it's about to get
• 1:04:58
  crazy. Just give it a month and it'll
• 1:05:01
  be like nothing ever happened. I guarantee they got something
• 1:05:04
  along those lines. And that's kind of where they're
• 1:05:07
  at right now. Why?
• 1:05:08
  Don't they should have done by the way, why don't they should
• 1:05:10
  have done to end this news post? You see at the bottom, you see
• 1:05:14
  the how it signed the Jag X team.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah, they should have taken one person they really want to fire,
• 1:05:21
  but they can't. They should have just put their
• 1:05:23
  name, put it all in one guy. That's a crazy idea.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, but you know, it's not the Jack.
• 1:05:34
  This is not the Jack X team. The Jack X team did not sit
• 1:05:38
  there and say, guys, I want, I really want the price to go up.
• 1:05:43
  There's no one on the team, dude.
• 1:05:44
  Maybe like one or two people that are like, I love this
• 1:05:47
  company, let's do it. Yeah, you know what they should
• 1:05:50
  have. Done one of their names.
• 1:05:51
  You know what they should have done?
• 1:05:52
  They should have signed it with none other than Maud South.
• 1:05:56
  Maud South. Dude Maud N's evil little
• 1:06:00
  brother who's behind all of this.
• 1:06:03
  Maud N had no idea. He has no idea this even
• 1:06:06
  happened. His hands are tied, he's shaking
• 1:06:10
  right now knowing that his brother's back in town and is
• 1:06:14
  causing an absolute ruckus right now and he has no way of
• 1:06:17
  controlling him. Maude S is running a rampage
• 1:06:21
  right now in the Jag X office and I'm very concerned for all
• 1:06:24
  of them and he's to blame it seems.
• 1:06:27
  So I hope they get him. I hope they get him under
• 1:06:29
  control because Maude S, you don't want to be on his bad
• 1:06:32
  side. You really don't.
• 1:06:34
  I just care for them. He will fuck you up so bad Maude
• 1:06:37
  S dude Maude NI actually heard they got into a fistfight and
• 1:06:42
  Maude N thought he won like he thought like he thought Maude S
• 1:06:46
  was down for the count is like just get him out of here send
• 1:06:49
  send him to send him somewhere in Asia.
• 1:06:52
  I never. Want to see the guy again and he
• 1:06:53
  shit them off? Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Yeah, send him to North Korea. Why not?
• 1:06:56
  And he came back. He came back.
• 1:06:58
  He just never. Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  So if if this was, you know, a movie, if this is a movie
• 1:07:05
  series, this is that. This is the second movie he
• 1:07:07
  returned. He returned.
• 1:07:09
  He's back. You thought you thought he was
• 1:07:10
  gone in the first movie? No first movie did so well they
• 1:07:13
  brought him back for the second one.
• 1:07:15
  Mod South. This was all him.
• 1:07:18
  That would be crazy if it was just signed Mod S be like Oh no
• 1:07:22
  dude he's gone. We would all know immediately.
• 1:07:25
  I mean, Americans would resonate with that a lot because we know
• 1:07:29
  mod N good guy, mod South bad guy.
• 1:07:33
  We've seen the history books. We already know.
• 1:07:34
  Oh. God, yeah, how that works.
• 1:07:38
  You know what I mean? I don't know how they didn't see
• 1:07:39
  that coming, but I get it. Because, you know, they we
• 1:07:42
  already got rid of the British. That over there.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, we got rid of the British and then we dealt with that and
• 1:07:47
  maybe they. Did I knows Not in my history
• 1:07:49
  books. No, they don't tell us about
• 1:07:50
  that. No, they.
• 1:07:51
  Told me about when we hated England.
• 1:07:55
  We're fine now, I guess. No it dude.
• 1:07:56
  It's funny because in history clash, like I guess what we
• 1:08:00
  learn, it's like the US Revolutionary War.
• 1:08:05
  That's our thing with with Britain.
• 1:08:08
  And then suddenly they disappear for 200 years.
• 1:08:12
  And the next time we hear of them, they're like, Oh yeah, we
• 1:08:14
  went to over there to help them beat the Germans.
• 1:08:16
  That's the next time that they made an appearance in the. 200
• 1:08:19
  years, I don't think it was 200 years, but.
• 1:08:23
  Is IT150150? All right, I don't know if we
• 1:08:26
  could put this in. People are going to be shocked
• 1:08:29
  that we don't have the the date right away.
• 1:08:31
  A. 168 I'm not that crazy. You're right.
• 1:08:34
  Yeah. OK, and I.
• 1:08:36
  Just kind of took our Independence Day and then took
• 1:08:38
  1944 when we went to Normandy. And yeah, it's kind of where I
• 1:08:43
  was thinking there, but it's. World War One, even.
• 1:08:46
  No. Oh yeah.
• 1:08:48
  We were. Evolved to we were evolved to
• 1:08:50
  World War One. Yeah, we were.
• 1:08:52
  Yeah, it wasn't as cool though, Suggested no.
• 1:08:56
  Yeah, you. You, you play the, you play the
• 1:08:58
  Call of Duty with the World War One.
• 1:08:59
  You're like, this is a little boring, guys.
• 1:09:02
  Yeah, we got to skip. We got to skip that.
• 1:09:05
  Skip together. That one's more exciting.
• 1:09:07
  That was more exciting. Simulate the lives of our great
• 1:09:10
  grandfathers. That one's got COD zombies in
• 1:09:12
  it, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah. Anyway, on on that note.
• 1:09:19
  So anyway, Mont S's not a good guy.
• 1:09:21
  We that's why we gathered from that.
• 1:09:24
  Believe it or not, we were meant to talk many weeks ago, right?
• 1:09:28
  You and I, we were meant to have this because this is supposed to
• 1:09:31
  be a weekly thing. But sometimes one of us gets
• 1:09:35
  busy. But look, we're going to get to
• 1:09:38
  a point where that's not the case and we're going to just be
• 1:09:42
  talking once a week. But look, if if we made a
• 1:09:45
  channel, would you guys subscribe to that or what?
• 1:09:47
  What do you? It's not a it's not it.
• 1:09:49
  So you look, it's not a would you?
• 1:09:50
  It's the they will. OK.
• 1:09:52
  This is this is what we got. I know, I know.
• 1:09:55
  But, you know, we want to give them a little sense of freedom.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah. That's why I am.
• 1:10:03
  I'm asking them. I'm asking them real nice.
• 1:10:05
  Yeah, ask them in a nice way, an offer they can't refuse sort of
• 1:10:08
  thing an. Offer they can't refuse.
• 1:10:10
  There you go. So maybe, maybe if we once we
• 1:10:14
  have a a weekly time set. Then we'll fucking start.
• 1:10:17
  Send them. Upload into something else.
• 1:10:20
  Something else? Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Something else? Yeah, it's kind of weird to put
• 1:10:23
  a label on the name of our conversations, our normal
• 1:10:26
  conversations, but I feel like we kind of have to do that for a
• 1:10:29
  branding thing. Eventually, we might.
• 1:10:32
  We might have to. Fill that out.
• 1:10:33
  I've been I've been mod Northwest.
• 1:10:39
  Actually, no, we can't. I've been mod.
• 1:10:42
  What would your J mod name be? Oh my J mod name I.
• 1:10:46
  Don't think I'd go with any direction now.
• 1:10:48
  South and N are. Taken dude.
• 1:10:50
  Stay away from the compass with with.
• 1:10:52
  I think Maud E has even been a thing.
• 1:10:54
  I think Maud East, Oh my God. And then Maud W, they've,
• 1:10:57
  they're all taken. Except for Maud S because he's
• 1:11:01
  been gone for so long that people forgot about him.
• 1:11:04
  But he's. Yeah, yeah, no, that name's been
• 1:11:07
  taken for years, and anyone that knows deep lore of Jagax would
• 1:11:11
  know that. Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Evolution of combat. His idea?
• 1:11:16
  Dude, yeah, Wilder's gone. Wilder's ditch his idea.
• 1:11:21
  Yeah, Free trade mod S that was him.
• 1:11:26
  All him and, and and the controversy surrounding it where
• 1:11:29
  everyone was getting scammed with their credit cards.
• 1:11:31
  It was just him. It was just him.
• 1:11:33
  He was, he was just taking the payment information every time.
• 1:11:37
  You know what? It's crazy.
• 1:11:38
  Yeah, All those Mod Jed documents.
• 1:11:41
  Oh man. Every little footnote mentioned
• 1:11:45
  a mod South. This mysterious Mod South and
• 1:11:49
  how they can't find them, but he had every he was he was there
• 1:11:54
  for every step of it. What else are we doing?
• 1:11:56
  We do anything else? You got anything going on?
• 1:11:59
  It's not. It's be mad where he's going to
• 1:12:02
  be mad. Leave it out.
• 1:12:03
  Should we tell everyone to be mad still or is this going to
• 1:12:05
  lighten the mood for everyone? Is everyone going to feel not as
• 1:12:08
  bad about membership? There's only one thing that we
• 1:12:10
  can do. We got to like this video.
• 1:12:13
  Got to like this video if you haven't.
• 1:12:14
  That's weird. This.
• 1:12:15
  Video gets 5000 likes. Well, I would eat a sock.
• 1:12:19
  What? No, I won't eat a sock.
• 1:12:21
  You won't eat a sock. I know you won't eat a sock.
• 1:12:24
  I don't want eating a sock. 5000 likes Anyway, it's not but.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah, and they won't prove you wrong.
• 1:12:29
  Maybe they make they make edible panties.
• 1:12:31
  Certainly, Certainly they make edible socks.
• 1:12:33
  Yeah, they probably do. There's probably some.
• 1:12:34
  Edible socks, They probably do look.
• 1:12:36
  I'll do that. I will look into it if there's
• 1:12:37
  5000 likes in this. It's not happening though, so
• 1:12:40
  don't worry about it. Yeah, you're not.
• 1:12:41
  You're not going to eat an edible sock.
• 1:12:43
  That's. Not going to eat an edible sock,
• 1:12:44
  What's the point? It's a crazy nightmare that
• 1:12:47
  you'd be a part. Of the point, yeah.
• 1:12:49
  Anyway, I'll see you guys later. Let's see you guys later, we
• 1:12:53
  said.