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"Hail Raiser" episode 205 · DMV Mess Hall

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Hi folks, this is Rick Doc Walker the DOC this.
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Is John Kime and you're listening to the mess hall with
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rally captain and Tailgate 10. What's going on?
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Rally? Long time no talk, man.
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How you been? Yeah, I've been good man.
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Just busy as all out. If you follow me on on Facebook,
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you know that I've been working a lot of overtime to help pay
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for these trips that are coming up.
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So that's what I've been up to, man.
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I mean, I've been working like a dog, which I'm not going to
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complain because when it's time to go, I want to be able to go.
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What about you, I? Hear you there man.
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I've been so people know they listen to show.
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I started a new job. So I got sent down to Orlando
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for a work conference. It was spring break.
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Got to catch up with the family down there.
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Went to Magic Kingdom for the first time, never been.
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Not sure if you've ever been like I'm a Star Wars guy right?
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No secret about that. I think I put a a thing on my
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Instagram about the Star Wars socks that I bought when I was
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walking around Disney Springs and I was going to not buy them
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at the store. Then I looked online and online
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they were sold out and the ones I found were going on eBay for
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four times the price. It's like I'm buying 2 pairs of
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these things right now and I'm going to sell one on eBay and
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try and help pay for some tickets that I, you know, go on
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some SB events trips, not that they're that expensive, but that
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that'll actually pay for at least a trip.
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The way these things are freaking going.
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And I went to Magic Kingdom, man, I've never been all right.
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I'm, I'm a Hollywood Studios guy because I love Star Wars.
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They got like all like the whole Star Wars land out there, this
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and that. Like I don't pay attention or
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like all the other Disney stuff. I just, you know, in my 40s,
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right? That's just not my thing.
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I had a freaking blast, man. It was a damn good time out
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there. 16 hours at the park dude.
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You stayed out there 16 hours. 16 hours.
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I mean, Mrs. Tailgate was ready to kill me at the end because we
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thought it closed at 9. It went on till 11:00 because
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there was a, it was a race weekend and we had no idea.
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It's like I, well, we still got more time.
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We haven't ridden this ride. We haven't ridden this ride.
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So now let's keep going. It was, actually.
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It was a ton of fun, man. Bonus, I ain't mad at you, man.
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No, I've never been. I've been to Orlando, but I've
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never been to Magic Kingdom, so that's one of the things that
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I'll have to do. Believe it or not, I haven't
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been to Disney World either. So Disneyland.
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Disney World. Any of the parks.
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I haven't been to any of them, you know.
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We got to go to Hollywood studios together, man.
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All this, all the stuff you would like, that stuff can you
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like? I would.
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Oh, yeah. I love it.
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I love it. Are you?
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Going to build a rally captain lightsaber there.
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We, we, we got to get on this. Look out now.
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Look out now. What team?
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Is playing, isn't their team playing in Orlando while they're
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getting something done? I think there's an NFL team
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that's going to be playing in Orlando.
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We'll have to figure that out. I don't think it's somebody that
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we play, but. I don't think it's anyone that
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we play anytime the. Closest, the closest that we're
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going to get is is possibly Jacksonville.
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That's. So that's what it is.
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The Jags are actually playing in Orlando.
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This year. No, during the 2027 season. 27,
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yeah. Yeah, during 27, because their
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stadium isn't going to be ready until 28 and I, I guess 26
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they're still staying home. But yeah, in 27 they're playing
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in Orlando. It's like, Oh yeah, we can go
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out there, try to think if they're on the calendar this
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year. Jacksonville.
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Yeah. Yeah, they are.
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OK, so. Jacksonville's on the, and, and
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that's actually the first time that, believe it or not, since
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we're talking about Jacksonville, that's the actual
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first rally that I ever threw outside of the team.
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They weren't having one simply because they said we don't know
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that we have a huge fan base in Jacksonville.
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And I said, all right, well, I'm going to throw a rally.
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And that was the first time that I'd ever put a rally together
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and it was massive. And the organization said noted.
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We know that we have a fan base that's there.
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I mean, it's just all the people that live in Florida just came
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up. So I don't know.
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I don't know why they they didn't think about that, but it
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was a great turn out. I remember was that in December?
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I want to say it was Yeah, I was in 2016.
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I remember that game because it was cold as hell and it was
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snowing. At least if that's the time.
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OK, so it was a different time. We played Jacksonville.
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I was in Tampa visiting with my in laws down there and I drove
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from Tampa to Jacksonville to go to back then the Redskins game
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and I'm wearing all my warm clothes, right because I'm
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coming from Tampa. It was so cold.
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It had snowed in Jacksonville and there is a picture of me
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that someone took a screenshot from their TV and you can see me
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just sitting like this just freezing my ass off because I'm
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in shorts in my jersey and basically a freaking T-shirt and
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sandals. Because I didn't dress
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appropriately, because I didn't bring any warm clothes, like any
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cold clothes because it's Jacksonville in December, right?
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And. Yeah, but, but, but
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Jacksonville, Jacksonville is kind of close to that.
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It's. Further north I found it.
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It was December 26th, 2010, so I'm looking here, it says it was
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temperatures in the 30s and they had snow flurries that day.
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So people were happy because it was almost like a white
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Christmas in Florida. But I literally the day after
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Christmas I drove to Jacksonville.
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I remember because I stopped at Sonic, we don't have a ton
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around here. So I'm super happy about that.
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And I got there and I had field passes.
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So I'm on the field for a little bit.
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Yeah. Living the rally captain life.
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And I didn't leave when I told you to leave.
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And then they eventually found me, and they made me move back
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up to my seats. And that's when I was just
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sitting there, like basically huddled up and frozen just in my
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seat because I'm not expecting Jacksonville to be 30°, you
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know, the day after Christmas. Like I was saying, Jacksonville
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is basically, you know what, an hour, 45 minutes from the
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Georgia Line. So this right there.
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So it's not like it's further South.
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So they get pretty chilly. Yeah, I just, you know, just not
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expecting it to be that much. But what Too bad we don't play
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them next year. Then we can go see them in
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Orlando. But maybe we we can do a little
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drive or maybe. Don't we play them this year
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though? They'll say next year 27 is what
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they're playing out there. Got you.
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Got you. OK.
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But we'll be good. Well, I had a blast out there,
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man. We we got to figure out a time
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to make a trip out there and. Check that place out dude it.
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Was a lot of fun and actually hog farmer Chris messaged me
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said oh man, I just left there because I was you know, I was
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Instagramming and sending different videos out when I was
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there. He did 4 parks in four days.
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That that is a little too much for me.
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Well, he's with his kids, if I'm not mistaken, with his daughters
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in the dance cheer competition. So it makes it a little bit
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easier to be able to do that. But I agree with you, you know,
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Plus I think he's a little younger.
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Yeah, he is. He is younger.
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And you know, it's he'll, he'll be up in Pittsburgh hanging out
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and having a good old time up there.
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So, you know, going to miss that.
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But the thing that killed me is I'm in Orlando when they
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released everything, right? So the the new uniforms drop.
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I remember that morning at 10 AM, thank goodness we had a
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break at the conference I was at, or else I was just going to
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sneak out and, you know, just, oh, man, oh, I had that bad, bad
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eggs for breakfast and just, you know, go deal with all that.
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But we had a break in between and I got to watch the video.
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I'm assuming you saw it when it came out.
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Yeah, I, I, I saw it. What did you think when you saw
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that thing, man? Hey bro, the uniforms are dope.
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They they really are I I like the team that they have putting
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the vids together because the lead up vid was was also nice.
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But to to actually see the uniforms.
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Nah man they did. They did a good job.
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Did you buy 1 yet? No, I haven't bought 1 yet.
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So season ticket holders got an e-mail to reserve their spot at
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Northwest Stadium at the team store to go get a jersey.
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So I was out of town and I had a bunch of people reach out to me.
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Hey, I've got an extra spot that I can't use if you want to go.
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So I appreciate our listeners and people that message.
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I would have taken him up on that in a heartbeat, but I just
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didn't get a chance to go. But but before we even get to
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there, I mean the video itself. I couldn't help but think that's
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what they should have shown on the Today show back on 2/2/22
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instead of freaking what's the guy's name?
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The guy. Melvin yeah, it said.
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And. Craig Melvin.
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Craig Melvin, not Harold Melvin that's got that's Harold Melvin
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that do notes. I mean, Doug Williams on there
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just saying this. We are the commanders.
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No, they should have led with that just awesome video and then
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Craig Melvin doing that, ha ha. At the end it was just, yeah, go
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back and think about it now. It's cringe worthy and it just
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drives me crazy that that was how we got reintroduced to the
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NFL into the world back on, you know, 2222.
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They just, they got all of it wrong.
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They had the mannequins on stage.
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You didn't see a single player wearing the uniform.
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It was those just horrible looking mannequins on stage in
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the stadium. You were there walking around
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waiting at the team store with your flag.
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I was out there tailgating with some of the hill BBQ crew we had
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ATVI mean. It was just such a a bad event
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because on top of that it got leaked the night before.
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The night before, yeah. What was?
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Going to happen with Chopper Brad flying over the stadium
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and. Let's see what he can see.
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They they didn't have the windows blacked out.
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Yeah, Nope. Isn't that something?
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I mean, but that's, that's great reporter.
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I mean, great reporting. You can't, you can't.
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You can't knock him. No, I'm not mad at him.
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I'm I am mad at him because he spoiled the surprise, right?
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A little bit. But he's doing his job, so I get
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it. He got a bonus wish he got trip
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to Jamaica out of it. Probably, you know, maybe a
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ticket to Disney World. Who knows?
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Yeah. But can you just imagine, let's
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just say we still would be the commanders and this ownership
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group took over and it's 2222. They would have had paratroopers
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fly in that stadium with uniforms on.
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I mean, these guys would have gone all out instead of what we
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just got stuck with from the last ownership group.
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Just like, OK, I guess we got to do this.
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We got to a choice. Here you go.
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And they just basically threw up all over themselves on national
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TV. Well, I I think it's AI think
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it's a thing, Ted, where, where you know better, you do better,
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and I really don't think those guys knew better, bro.
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I, I, I don't. I mean, you would think that you
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would think that they should, but they they were doing what
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they thought was the best thing and, and unveiling it on the
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Today show. So I mean, who has more views
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than this today show most of the time?
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So on one aspect I can't knock them, but on another aspect,
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yes, I knock them. Well, the fact that our team,
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they didn't do Today show, they didn't.
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They just released it on social media.
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That's all they did. There was a video that came out
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on social media. I think I might have gone to
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YouTube to find it and trying to see how many views that video
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has. At this point, I can't find it
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on here. I'd have to go to their Twitter
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account and look for it. But some people are torn.
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When I saw it, they got it right, right?
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They did everything they needed to to get it right.
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What were your initial reactions when you saw the first glimpses
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of the new the new outfits? I said whoa, I'm so glad I
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didn't throw any of my uniforms with my jerseys away.
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I don't think mine. So I can't use those regardless,
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but yeah. I said I'm so happy I didn't
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throw mine away, but then I said no, you know what, What the
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heck? I got to go ahead and and get me
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another one. So I did buy a black 1.
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I did buy a white one. I have not.
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So you got the the hail raiser black one?
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The black yeah, yeah, so and, and I, I will be having Rally
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Captain put on the back. The only problem is obviously
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you can only get 10 characters on the back and Rally Captain is
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a little bit more than 10. So I've got a do some finagling
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to to get that taken care of. You know, so did you buy a legit
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one from the team and then you're just going to get.
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Something stitched on the back. We don't even talk about that.
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Forget about that. So you could just.
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Have you ever thought about doing rally Capt. at the end
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instead of spelling out? Captain No, No, No.
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So that's one problem too. I can't put to get Ted on the
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back. Yeah.
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So no, you, I will never, you know.
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So actually I take that back. There was a jersey that I did
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get rally capped on it just so that I could get it out there as
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soon as possible. But then luckily, luckily one of
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the good things Mr. Jason Wright did for me is he said, Hey, that
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doesn't Mr. Jason Wright said this to me.
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That doesn't look good. I'm going to get you, give me
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give me that jersey and we're going to get rally captain put
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on the back for you. So he took it to the I guess the
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whoever their uniform guy is and they sold it on for me.
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So big shout out to Jason for for that.
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You know, yeah, he, he helped me out with mine as well.
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OK, see. Yeah.
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So it's. He was, he was being nice.
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I just, I can't wear it again or I can't use it again.
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So there are some fans that are they're pissed off.
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I did a a Fox 5 interview from Orlando and I don't have any of
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my rig with me. They messaged me, said, hey, can
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you join us? We want to talk about the new
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uniforms. And OK, not a problem.
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Typically my segments are three minutes.
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They're not long at all. So I can hold my cell phone up
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for three minutes, you know, instead of shaking.
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This was a 15 minute segment. So I'm sitting outside and I'm
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at the awards dinner and I take off my, you know, I'm, I'm
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dressed up as an adult at this point.
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I'm not wearing any commander's gear.
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So I take off my button up shirt and everything else and I leave
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it at a table and I've got burgundy and gold underneath so
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I can go walk over the side and go do my interview.
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And people came back like, who's getting naked at the party?
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Like what? This isn't that someone had.
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To Oh my gosh, say it ain't so. Say it ain't so.
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And I'm so. Indulged.
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And my hand I'm trying not to shake while I'm holding my cell
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phone up and it's like now minute 11.
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And thank goodness they cut away from because we do it by a zoom,
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you know, the secrets of TV. So they cut away from looking at
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me so I can switch hands and then grab it with my other hand
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and go from there. But then they were showing up
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tweets from. Different.
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Exactly. Yeah, just definitely.
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It's not my pickleball arm. I got to use the pickleball arm
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next time, but talking about hog farmer Chris right?
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Being at Orlando bring him up because they actually showed his
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tweet on Fox 5 and Chris put up. It's frustrating that fans
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invested 4 years into the Commander's jersey, buying in
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supporting it and spending money on merge only to have it changed
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again. It feels like a bit of
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disservice to the fans who committed to it.
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With that said, I'll always support and Chris isn't the only
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one that said this. I know a lot of people.
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I mean, I'm on record. I, I spent, you know, 4 digits
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at least during the rebrand. We got a discount to go into the
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team store to go buy a bunch of stuff, a season ticket holders.
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That was how much do you think was like 60% off or something
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like that? Yeah, they hooked us up.
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I still spent four figures on gear, right?
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It's just, it's my team. That's our team, right?
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It's what we we support and their fans are pissed off.
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And I couldn't help think of you.
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You've got your Fan of the Year jersey, but now it's a different
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jersey, right? It's not the same one.
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Well. See you you had to go there,
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brother. You had to go there.
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So now that means I I got to put some pin in the pad to see about
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it. That's old school pin the pad.
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I got to get on the on the Internet and start typing away
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and saying, hey, can I get the New Jersey with fan of the year
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on it? We'll, we'll see.
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I mean, just, I'm sure you can, man.
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I'm sure there's some places out there where you can order it
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because I'm looking at hog farmer Chris's line fan of the
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air with the old stuff, the old Crest.
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And I I understand why fans are frustrated and upset about it,
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but teams bring in New Jersey's all the time.
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I've got so many friends that are they're Bucks fans and the
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Bucks have had a ton of jerseys over the years.
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And I do know that there's a rule they can't change to let
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you know a five year mark and OK, our zapping 2222.
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So we're not at that five year mark.
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I'm just so happy when I saw the jerseys we talked about on the
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last pod but it's been 3 weeks. How the Super Bowl era jerseys
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never went on sale but all the other ones did, which led me to
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believe something's going on here.
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Why is every single jersey the team sells, even the authentic
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legit ones that are like the Field Ward ones that are fitted
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all 50% or more off except the Super Bowl eras?
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Remember, these guys are playing chess, not checkers.
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And we find out. Fast forward a couple months
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later, well, it's because they're wearing those officially
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and everyone assumed that was going to happen when the Super
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Bowl era alternate came out last year.
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So I'm happy that that's a regular one being the burgundy
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jersey. Like you, I still have my
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tailgate Tay one except it says Redskins underneath the West for
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the sorry underneath the NFL logo.
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So I don't have an old old one from back in the day and it also
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doesn't fit me. So I got to find something
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different. But when I saw the alternate I
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was so happy. Man, that hail raiser jersey.
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We finally don't look like the Steelers JV team, right?
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That jersey to me look like a a UFLXFL jersey that just had no
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design or thought put into it. And you could tell that they
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really went all out for this thing.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that.
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They, they did a good job. I I really like just the
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attention to detail. And one of the things that they
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did was they took commanders off of it and, you know, you just
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have the NFL Crest. I'm cool with that.
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You know, we're all teams don't necessarily have to have their
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name on the front of their jersey.
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You know, the NFL Crest along with your name on the back with
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your colors, a suit boot, let's rumble.
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So I I like it. I like it.
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It's gives it a more cleaner look.
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It really does. I'm trying to think of how many
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teams actually have the name of the team on their jersey and I.
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Stopped researching because I think it might have been our
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time to ride the Tron ride or something at Disney.
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But everyone knows like you, when you see a jersey, you know
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what team it's for. If it's an NFL jersey, you don't
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have to say, oh, this is the the Broncos we're playing or this is
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the Dolphins that we're playing or you know who you're going up
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against. So I think it was kind of
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pathetic, another way for them to get the rebrand out there.
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And I don't know of any of those people that are still around.
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I think the ones guy's name was Will Missilbrook.
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And he got in trouble for saying some stuff when he was partying
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on a yacht after the fact when the Jersey release came out and
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he put an Instagram tweet or thing out there that just did
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not go over too well especially. Considered.
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Yeah, I don't want to rehash it, but.
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No, no, no, I, I, But I do believe I remember that.
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I got to tell you What I'm happy about is they got rid of the
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West in the front of the helmet. The, the, I, I called it the
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Weathertech helmet is what I call it 'cause it cause the W
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looks the same. I was watching a commercial one
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day and I, and I said, I wonder who took who, who took the West
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from whom, You know, because that Weathertech commercial is
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just like that man. So with, with, AW, it's, it's
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crazy. So that's gone.
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The W with the spear. I like it.
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The color is booming. It's awesome.
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And it actually reminds me of that old black jersey that we
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had out with the spear on the actual shoulder, if you remember
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that jersey. Yeah, I think that was the 70th
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anniversary. 75th anniversary. Yeah, that's what I like.
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And so like you said, you see that the guys paid attention to
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detail and but I can tell you what's really going to piss the
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everybody off is when five years from now when we go back to the
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Redskins, I mean, that's really not good.
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So you say that, man, there's so many people that are thinking
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that, yeah. Yeah, no, before, before it goes
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any further. No, that's not going to happen.
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It was a joke, all right? That's all it was.
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Don't be like, hey, I'm the rally guy.
22:07
Just say five years to win. Arrested.
22:08
No, that. Don't.
22:10
There are people still holding out hope, man.
22:13
I mean. They are they.
22:14
Are that helmet? The black helmet is just
22:17
straight fire in my opinion, and I understand that a lot of fans
22:22
wanted that to be the helmet on all of them, but they had to do
22:26
something for the alternates. This is actually what Adam
22:28
Peters had to say about the helmet.
22:29
And really excited. I love looking at this helmet.
22:31
It's really a lot better than the last one you mentioned comes
22:36
to my kids. You guys going to have these?
22:42
He's given the old helmet to his kids.
22:45
Take. Take it.
22:46
Yeah, and I've got, you know, the now old helmet sitting here
22:50
beside me that I use as a prop when I go on Fox 5.
22:54
Now I got to get a new helmet and again, it's first world
22:56
problems, stuff I got to deal with.
22:58
But I like the fact that they went back to the old gloss on
23:03
the old, old helmet. I actually have an old Redskins
23:05
helmet that I got from Miles, one of our friends that used to
23:08
work for the team. That's like, Oh, well, I wonder
23:10
if I could just put the W on there what they're going to do.
23:13
But I was asking you before the show, did you hear about the
23:17
controversy fans had with the West and the Spear being
23:24
improperly stabbed, if you will? No, I, I hadn't heard about it.
23:30
I was said my nose is literally bent to the ground, man.
23:33
So I I've been, I've been, I've been grinding, bro.
23:37
So this is just proof that people will find a reason to
23:40
complain about anything, right? Looking at the picture here, you
23:45
see the West and then you see the spear going through.
23:50
So, and for those that can't see this, we're showing it on
23:53
YouTube. So you'll get a chance to look
23:54
at it there if you just find the show there.
23:56
But you see where the spear is stabbing through the West and
24:00
heading in. Apparently people made AW out of
24:08
paper and we're stabbing it with a pen, showing that if you were
24:13
truly stabbing that W, where you see the spear coming through, it
24:18
will be poking out different parts of that W, not where it
24:22
looks like on the helmet. So gosh.
24:27
I don't think. They're going to change.
24:29
I don't think they're going to change it because of it.
24:31
I think they're going to stick with what they got.
24:33
They're not changing it at all, but these are people that are
24:37
nitpicking because they wanted it to go back to what it was
24:41
before and this and that. And just, I mean, you can't make
24:45
everybody happy. And to me, This is why it's
24:49
never going to go back to the old name.
24:50
And the name is also not going to change from commanders
24:53
because if you go back to the old name, there's still going to
24:57
be people that are pissed off. If you change it from commanders
25:00
to Red Wolves, there's so many people that are pissed off.
25:04
So they're just going all in on commanders.
25:07
Harris has said it multiple times.
25:08
That is our name. And would you believe it?
25:12
Someone's pissed off about the spear.
25:16
Well, you know what, I take that back.
25:17
I did hear people saying that they should have put the feather
25:20
on it. I did hear some people say that,
25:22
but that's they're not going to do that either.
25:24
So just take what you got, man. It's this is, it's a much
25:29
improvement. So I'm not mad at it.
25:33
They're leaning more into, and we talked about it on a previous
25:36
pod, kind of the the Roman 300 type of spear, not the Native
25:43
American spear, right? Putting a feather on that thing
25:47
is going to just stir up a bunch of dust and dirt that they don't
25:50
want to have to deal with. The fact of the Association on
25:54
American Indian Affairs sent out a statement and this is from USA
25:58
TODAY. The Association on American
26:01
Indian Affairs is offended by the Commander's new black
26:04
alternate helmet that has a spear intertwined with the
26:07
team's W and says it's inappropriate.
26:10
The Washington Commander's decision to update their logo is
26:13
disappointing and inappropriate to say the least.
26:15
It is time to stop repeating the cycle and listen to Native
26:19
peoples who have been clear, consistent and unwavering on
26:22
this issue. We are not your mascot, the
26:25
Association on American Indian Affairs said in a statement via
26:28
USA TODAY. So I wonder had they come up
26:31
with any type of designs that they want to bounce off of
26:35
ownership to see what they like or dislike?
26:41
One of the things that I don't like is so obviously, you know,
26:47
I post stuff all the time and, and the, the I posted a pic on
26:53
the gram that had my original chain and I said, Hey, I'm so
26:58
happy to get back to these colors, whatever have you.
27:00
And then people obviously said, you know, it's the woke,
27:03
whatever have you. And so I, I told the guy, I
27:04
said, listen, stop with the woke left or whatever have you,
27:09
Because ultimately what you guys aren't doing is you, you're not
27:14
listening to Native Americans. And when Native Americans, the
27:21
ones who agree with it can talk to the ones who disagree with it
27:25
and they can get their stuff together, then we can go
27:29
forward. But until then, it's not left,
27:33
right woke. It's, it's an inter inter
27:38
nationality, if you will, that's bickering with each other.
27:41
So that's what you got to look at.
27:44
Talk, talk to those people, but stop, stop making it so
27:47
political. Now granted, yes, the sponsors
27:49
did leave because they're losing a ton of money, no doubt about
27:52
it. But ultimately, I think that if
27:56
if the the Native Americans who can come up with something that
27:59
they like along with the ones who don't like it put it
28:02
together, I think that then they may be more receptive of it
28:07
versus always going to the press about stuff.
28:11
They don't want, they don't want anything.
28:13
This group does not. They're not going to design
28:15
anything. They're just pissed off that the
28:19
team decided to put a spear in there.
28:21
And they obviously don't follow the team and all the stuff
28:24
they've been doing at the stadium with bringing the spear
28:27
out and having Washington alumni slam that thing down and kind of
28:32
use it to cheer as a prop. They just are pissed off that
28:36
it's a spear. So can, if you can imagine what
28:38
they would have been if there was any kind of feathers on that
28:42
helmet at all, they would have flipped out.
28:44
And this is just why new ownership, they're not stupid
28:47
guys. They don't want to deal with
28:50
this mess that we had to deal with for a very long time.
28:54
And I'm with you. Like I just, I am tired of
28:59
talking about our name, I'm tired of talking about uniforms,
29:05
I'm tired of talking about stuff that has nothing to do with the
29:08
actual football or the X's and O's.
29:11
I just want to be a normal football franchise for a change
29:16
and I wish we could all move on and just go with it.
29:21
And one of the shirts I was wearing when I was out at
29:23
Disney, it was a Washington Fun Bunch shirt that misses Tailgate
29:29
old school. And I'm in line and it's 11:30
29:33
at night and I'm checking out because we wanted to buy some
29:35
souvenirs to take home. And one of the guys is like,
29:39
man, we're never going to get it back, are we?
29:43
And I'm thinking, OK, I know what he's talking about.
29:46
He's looking at the shirts like, Nah, man, but you know what?
29:48
I'm good with what we've got. And then he gets mad at me
29:51
because I'm wearing that shirt. Like, I can wear that shirt.
29:53
You can wear, you know, your old gear to pay homage to what it
29:58
once was without being offensive by any means.
30:02
But I just wish the fans that can't move on because it's not
30:11
going to be the old one or just move on and go cheer for
30:14
Baltimore's new helmet or something else because it's it's
30:17
gotten old in my book. And I'm I'm over it.
30:21
I want to talk about who we picked.
30:23
By the time you listen to this, you might have heard who we
30:25
picked in the draft. I want to talk about who we
30:27
picked at 7 in the draft. I am so sick and tired of all
30:30
this other nonsense, if you will.
30:33
Well, the guys reported back to work for spring ball, so that's
30:37
a good thing. That is, it is I saw them all
30:40
showing up, coming to camp. What is it voluntary right now?
30:45
But before that, you see it was Jayden and the wide receivers
30:50
working out on their own. So see.
30:53
That video on social media, Diami Brown kind of came out and
30:57
talked about how, you know, he didn't really enjoy it talking
31:01
about Jacksonville, right being out there.
31:04
So I'm just I'm excited to see what happens, but I don't know
31:08
about you. I am so sick and tired of all
31:11
this draft talk because it has been weeks of what we can do
31:17
with 7. Who are we going to take?
31:18
Who's going to fall down? And I just, after a while, I
31:23
just wanted to tune it out. But doing what we do, we got to
31:25
pay attention to everything. Yeah, right.
31:28
Yeah, you definitely do. And and let's face it, it's a
31:31
slow time. This thing is about to be kicked
31:35
into OverDrive after tomorrow. So you know, we we don't have
31:39
very much longer to worry about it.
31:41
It's kind of like when an elections coming up and you see
31:45
every commercial is about some ad of somebody who doesn't like
31:48
you just like God damn, I can't stand it.
31:50
Hurry up and get this thing over with.
31:51
And that's where we are right now.
31:53
You know, I think that everybody could agree upon that.
31:55
Just OK, we're here is, you know, let's just do it and let's
31:59
hope that we get the best player available that fits our need and
32:05
that they make a difference because 2024 is still in the
32:12
recesses of my my brain and I need that feeling again.
32:16
That dopamine needs to hit me again in 26 like it did in 24.
32:20
So come on guys, get it together and hopefully, you know, we can
32:26
repeat and go even further. Fingers crossed.
32:31
I just, we have 6 packs and I'm not going to be in Pittsburgh.
32:36
You're not going to be up there. We are going to be, I don't want
32:39
to speak for you, but I'm going to be at Northwest Stadium on
32:42
Thursday night. You coming out?
32:43
I will. I will be there brother.
32:45
I know, I know you wouldn't miss it.
32:46
I just didn't want to speak for you.
32:47
So Thursday night, if you guys are listening to this, listen to
32:52
this on your way up to the stadium.
32:53
It starts at 7:00, so I don't know if people can be tailgating
32:59
ahead of time. I will not be.
33:00
If somebody is, let me know and I'll come join you.
33:03
Don't the last open a little bit earlier though, like 5-30,
33:06
something like that. Six.
33:08
I'm sure they will. I mean, the events free to
33:10
attend. Let's click on this and see what
33:13
it says. I mean, people are going to get
33:17
there early. So just two tickets.
33:21
You know what? I will text them and find that
33:24
out because 7 is kind of late. The draft starts at 8.
33:28
I'm curious what it's going to be like because in the past when
33:30
we had it there at the stadium, they had a big thing on the
33:33
field where family to kind of run through and do different
33:36
drills. And stuff, yeah.
33:38
So it was a good time. The team let me do a a cheek
33:41
swab event to try and help people find matches for blood
33:44
cancer. So it was good, but we've got
33:46
that event on Thursday and then you coming out on Saturday.
33:51
National Harbor. That's what my plan is, unless I
33:53
get tasked to work. But right now it it looks like
33:57
that I'll be tasked to work. That's what that's what it looks
34:00
like. Yeah, man.
34:02
I'm only curious about what the weather's going to because I
34:04
think it's supposed to be good because.
34:05
Both of these the last couple years it's rained.
34:09
Yeah, it has. So I plan on being there.
34:12
I think Missus Tailgate's actually going to come with me
34:14
to the event on Saturday. But looking at this for the
34:19
weekend, those that haven't been, it's a ton of fun.
34:22
Some of you like getting autographs.
34:25
They'll be existing players there.
34:27
They'll be Washington alumni there that you can get
34:30
autographs from. Looking at the weather report
34:33
now, I think it's supposed to be fine.
34:35
So we'll see how it goes. It is Wednesday when we're
34:38
recording this, so it could change.
34:40
But I just, I just love when we can get there and have all the
34:44
burgundy and gold together. And that was my one thing about
34:47
not going to the draft. I didn't want to miss the party
34:51
on Saturday and I was going to be forced to get a hotel for
34:55
three nights and be stuck in Pittsburgh.
34:57
And I can only eat so many sandwiches with French fries on
35:00
top of them. After a while I got to come back
35:02
and have 1/2 smoke. So I'll definitely be out at
35:05
National Harbor. And you know, make sure to say
35:07
hi if you guys see us out there. Definitely.
35:09
And one of the good things about being out at National Harbor is
35:12
whoever our pick is, they're going to fly them to the harbor
35:18
and you'll get to possibly get to meet them or see have them
35:22
here cuz say a couple words. So they always do that.
35:25
So I can remember who do we, we picked, it was Forbes.
35:31
We picked Forbes and I was talking to Janine Samuels and it
35:37
was so funny. I was talking to her and
35:39
security is trying to push everybody back and all of a
35:42
sudden I get put into the middle of right where he walks up to,
35:46
to me and, and, and, and that was the first time I said hello
35:48
to the young man. And then security realized, Hey,
35:52
you're not supposed to be here. So they, they pushed me out.
35:54
But but it was just a little story about the draft that that
35:57
day at at the harbor. I don't know how I got mixed up
36:00
into that little frenzy, but you never know who, who you might
36:04
meet. You know, they may be the nice
36:07
and allow you to to talk to him, shake a hand, but you got to be
36:11
there to see it. So if I can make it, I
36:14
definitely will be there and and we can get some pics as well.
36:18
So when you saw Forbes, did he stand sideways and you couldn't
36:22
see him anymore? I mean.
36:27
He had he had on some baggy type of clothes.
36:30
They weren't tight thin clothes. They're baggy clothes.
36:31
So you look a little bit bigger, but at the same time you.
36:34
Couldn't tell at that point. No, not at that point.
36:36
You couldn't tell. Yeah.
36:37
Because I remember seeing him at rookie mini camp thinking that's
36:41
who we took with the first pick. Yeah, yeah, I.
36:44
Mean He's like a stick figure I used to draw in kindergarten.
36:47
He was just so thin and tiny. I didn't understand what the
36:50
hell they were thinking and hindsight, you know, the guys.
36:53
I think he got cut by the Rams. I don't even think he's on team
36:56
right now. Yeah, I can't keep up with it,
37:00
so I couldn't tell you. And Fred Smooth trying to sit
37:05
there and convince us that he's the next best thing that came
37:08
out of Mississippi. Who are you trying to fool, man?
37:12
Well, you know, Fred just he's, he's got to get got to get to
37:15
the gap. So he's got to do what he's got
37:16
to do. Man, Oh, he can talk.
37:17
He can talk. But did you see the video that
37:22
so last week was Santana Moss's 89 Ways to Give fundraiser at a
37:26
charity golf tournament. So a bunch of the alumni were
37:29
out there and they were playing golf for tennis tournament.
37:35
Smoot was out there and it was Fred's birthday.
37:39
So B, Mitch and Finley were broadcasting.
37:42
It was JP and Steve Zaman and they were at the first tee.
37:47
They recorded Fred's shot and I am not a golfer by any means.
37:51
I do not play. I don't even try to play.
37:54
Fred hit that thing and shanked it wide right and they tweeted
38:00
the video out and just did him so dirty.
38:03
It went all over the Internet. This professional football
38:05
player is just this bad at golf and was on the dude's birthday
38:09
too, so I felt really bad for him that that happened.
38:13
But he can. Definitely.
38:16
Those skills don't always convey, bro.
38:17
So, you know, transfer just because you're good at one.
38:21
I mean, you're going to be good at the other.
38:23
So it doesn't work that way. No they they don't and the team
38:26
still did their whole Top Golf bit.
38:28
Remember when they brought Jaden out the Top Golf and all the
38:31
other players? People maligned the agency about
38:34
that, saying how could you put these guys at Top Golf?
38:36
And, and, and, and they were, oh, I remember the talk that
38:40
that was almost as bad as Obama wearing a tan suit, though as
38:43
bad as they talked about the players being at Top Golf.
38:47
That was, that was bad, bro. They talked about a bad and the
38:51
guys were saying they weren't, they weren't happy about it.
38:54
But then it's like, yeah, this is what we want to do.
38:56
We want to get everybody together and we want to have
38:59
them see how they they deal with each other.
39:01
Yeah, see how you interact. I when I was at my work
39:04
conference, they tell you to sit at a table of people you don't
39:08
know or get to meet the rest of people.
39:10
And I take that to heart, right? I was sitting down at different
39:15
tables of different meals trying to get to know my new coworkers.
39:18
Except 2 times I sat down they were having a conversation and
39:23
talking in a different language. I'm thinking OK they're just
39:26
talking that amongst themselves. Then they would eventually talk
39:29
to me in English. No they just didn't speak
39:30
English. So I had to just sit there for
39:34
my entire meal because I don't want to be that new guy that sat
39:37
down beside them. They got up and left at that
39:40
point, so I'm just sitting there, like smiling and nodding
39:42
the entire time. But the commanders do this so
39:45
they can see how the players interact with each other and
39:48
being in a different situation where they're not so
39:50
comfortable. And it was just Google it.
39:53
You can find articles from 2024 in April where people are
39:56
flipping out about how he didn't really interact and do this and
40:00
do that. Now he's a franchise
40:01
quarterback. And they just did it this past
40:04
April. And you don't see really a
40:05
single article about it at all. No, Yeah.
40:09
Yeah. Well, not at all.
40:12
We have what I think it's 6 picks total. 6 picks.
40:17
Over under how many do you think we end up with by the time all
40:21
three days are over 11 or more or less?
40:29
I'm going to go less than 11. Less than 11.
40:35
Less than 11, yeah. I'm thinking the same thing.
40:40
I just, I just don't think that we have enough in it to be able
40:43
to trade back to get more picks. I I don't see it.
40:46
So because of that, you know, and, and I don't want to say
40:50
that we're desperate, but we need help.
40:55
But I don't, but I don't think that they're going to be able to
40:57
find those jewels, hidden jewels.
41:01
Maybe they can. I I don't know, but but just off
41:04
the RIP, I'm going to say less than.
41:08
Yeah. We have the number seven pick
41:11
and this is actually what Adam Peters said about possibly
41:13
trading back with that pick. If you're there at 7:00 and you
41:17
have some trade offers, if you're trading back, what are
41:20
the factors you weigh, what goes into that decision possibly to
41:24
do that? What might entice you to do
41:26
that? Yeah, I think, I think with any
41:29
trade, whether it's at 7 or anywhere, it's, you know, who's
41:31
available. You know what, how far back are
41:36
you going? What are you getting for it?
41:37
Who will be, who do you think will be available wherever
41:40
you're going back to? You know, and obviously you
41:42
can't certainly can't predict that.
41:45
It's a little easier to predict at the top of the draft than it
41:47
is like in the second or third round.
41:49
You don't really know who's going to be available.
41:52
There's a lot more variance at that point.
41:54
But all those things that factor in and just, you know, there's
41:58
someone like last year, we got a lot of offers when we pick Josh
42:03
and there's a lot of offers and, and, but we said before the
42:08
draft, if Josh is there, we're going to pick him.
42:11
And, and certainly happy we did that.
42:14
And so that that's, that's a window into kind of how we look
42:18
at it. But if that wasn't the case,
42:19
then we would await all those other things that I just talked
42:21
about. Your gut telling you, are we
42:26
staying at 7:00 or you think we're going to move back?
42:34
Depends on who gives us what. How about that?
42:37
And it makes sense if, if somebody does like the RD3 type
42:43
of trade that we did kill us like 5 picks, then of course you
42:46
do that. But I I don't see it happening
42:50
unless they give us too high picks that fit into our our
42:55
scheme that we need and these players are there.
42:58
If not I I see us picking the best player available.
43:03
The Giants 2 picks in the top 10 because they traded with the
43:07
Bengals. The Cowboys pick a 12 and
43:11
there's been a lot of rumors that The Jets possibly want our
43:16
pick and we'll trade back and move back down.
43:19
And for me, I understand the team wants a second round pick.
43:24
We don't have 1 currently. Right now we have #7 overall and
43:30
we don't pick again until round 3 #71 overall.
43:34
Then round 5 #147 we got 2 and round 6187 and possibly two O 9
43:41
and then 223. So that is not a lot of players
43:45
and OK, you could probably get a starter with that round 3 #71
43:51
pick potentially maybe more like a a depth #2 at that spot.
43:58
But I just think about Terry was a round three pick so you can
44:01
find a diamond in the rough. The team just really wants a
44:05
second round pick and I just hope that they don't move too
44:11
far back and we pass up a stud that can be truly impactful just
44:17
to get a couple more guys that can help fill out a roster
44:21
because I think they did a damn good job of filling in some of
44:25
the gaps that we have during free agency.
44:30
I, I know everybody, a lot of people are talking defense.
44:34
We got to go defense. I want a wide receiver or I want
44:39
a running back if Love is there. But The thing is, if Love is
44:43
there, I think we could fleece a team for a bunch of their picks
44:48
at that point. Because he is just that kind of
44:50
running back that is so generational from what
44:53
everyone's talking about. There was a guy that was on with
44:56
one of the shows on the fan saying who is this wide receiver
45:01
lining up with the running backs?
45:03
And no, it was Love. I mean, his hands are just that
45:06
good and he's just that big a weapon.
45:09
And now Arizona is saying that they want to take him at #3 So
45:14
man, we said before, I cannot wait till this is over because
45:17
it's lying season. All anybody cares about right
45:19
now is just smoke and mirrors because they don't want to show
45:22
what they're doing. Because the team saying they're
45:24
happy to stay at 7:00 that another guy saying, I just heard
45:28
from the commanders that they really, really want to move back
45:30
and this and that. And I just can't wait until
45:34
Sunday when all this is over. Well, Thursday is going to be a
45:38
long night. That's one thing about the
45:40
draft. The draft never moves fast, so
45:44
bring your popcorn because you're going to need it.
45:47
Thursday is going to be a very, very long night.
45:51
The Pop. Farmers need to bring some
45:52
Snickers with them. Yeah, even though we pick at 7,
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it starts at pretty much 8. You know, when we were there
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last year, I never realized how much freaking time goes by in
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between the picks. You know, unless the team just
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automatically knows who they want.
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Even still, that's a long time. And you're like, I can't believe
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we've been here. It's midnight.
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I remember going back to the hotel saying God Dang, it's
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minute. Well, thank God it's the White
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Castle's around the corner because I'm.
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I'm hitting my White Castles 'cause.
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You were drove there, right? No, no, I I flew in, but I
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rented a vehicle. No, but yeah, you rented a car.
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So you drove into Detroit 'cause you weren't staying downtown?
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Yeah, I had to. I walked back to my hotel.
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Thank goodness, cause by the time we got out of there, it was
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so late. And it's estimating right now
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that we'll pick between 8:45 and 9:00 PM.
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So they moved the time from 10 minutes a pick to 8 minutes a
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pick, which helps out. So when we had the number two
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pick, we picked it at roughly 815 back in 2024.
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And then I remember the one draft party at a the Anthem down
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at the Wharf they had, that was when we took Dwayne Haskins and
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they traded back in to the first round to get Montez Sweat.
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At that point, I think the draft party had pretty much emptied
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out, so I don't. Even have their drinks there and
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if they they were falling asleep, yeah, Bismarck he
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performed. But rest in peace, Bismarck.
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He he performed. I don't know what time they're
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actually going to close the stadium down.
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If because we pick at 7:00, I, I, we don't have any draft
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capital to trade back in. So I feel once we pick at 7:00,
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then we're done for the night. I just walk around and.
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You know, so you ain't got to go home, but you got to get the
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hell out of here. Exactly.
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Oh, well, I can't wait to see you in person out there, man.
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And the rest of our listeners and everybody else.
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It's it's going to be a fun night because when's the last
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time we all got together? It's been a minute, bro, it's
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been a minute. So I was going to say for fan of
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the year Super Bowl, but no, that nobody there for that.
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So I mean, I was there obviously, but maybe the last
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game of the season, that's about it.
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And and this year we decided because we had such a dismal
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year that we weren't going to throw a party.
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Everybody asked me about that too.
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They said, Hey, you're going to have a end of the season party
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like you did last year and and I was like, don't.
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Really watch the season. No, no, but hey, if things go
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the way we plan it like they did 2425, yes, there will be that's
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just a a big forecast down the road.
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But hey, I hear the music playing in the background, which
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lets me and you guys know that we're bringing another episode
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