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#215 - Joe Rogan’s Next Controversial Guest? Why Nick Fuentes Is No Longer Off-Limits · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Shane Gillis and Joe Rogan had a conversation and the name of Nick Fuentes got
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  brought up, got brought up.
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  I'm not even all the way through that entire podcast, but then I see last night
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  that people are posting clips of them discussing Nick Fuentes because Shane
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  Gillis just throws them out there.
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  Is this, are we speaking these things into existence? Are we manifesting our reality?
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  I know a lot of people don't want this reality. I honestly do.
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  I want to see Joe Rogan have Nick Fuentes on and just, just discuss the,
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  the elephant in the room that is Nick Fuentes.
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  I don't agree with everything that he says, but he's certainly entertaining
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  and he's certainly gotten the eyes and the attention of the masses and people
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  are trying to not let him speak.
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  He, he is, he has climbed the mountain and I, I think he deserves,
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  I gotta be careful how I say this, but I think it would be in everyone's best
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  interest if Joe Rogan brought him on and just talked, just air this out.
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  We're going to look at this. This is Joe Rogan and Shane Gillis speaking about yesterday.
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  This is the clip. It's about almost two minutes long, but I'm going to enjoy
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  every second of it, and I hope you do as well.
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  Two for war. You'd think we'd have more presidents, the Catholics. Yeah, they only had one.
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  Biden too. Oh, Biden's Catholic. We got Biden. Allegedly. True.
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  We only got one. He got shot, and then Biden was doing auto sign.
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  It was a good Good one. Yeah.
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  Got anybody in mind? Nick Fuentes? He could probably win in a few years.
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  Hold on, let's talk. Listen, he couldn't have existed before, right?
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  10, 20 years ago, couldn't have existed. Now, super popular.
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  What's 20? Shane Gillis brought him up.
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  And Nick Fuentes, it seems like he's had some beef with Shane Gillis because
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  Shane Gillis, he's a comedian. He's funny.
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  And he's he was certainly not like light on Nick Fuentes.
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  He called him out on a number of things and made him just made fun of him because
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  saying like he's hardcore.
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  Shane Gillis is bringing him up probably because he's he's his homeboy.
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  He's Catholic. Also, he wants a Catholic president.
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  Joe Rogan does not want to touch this. I can tell Joe does not want to touch this.
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  He's and that might be i don't know
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  if this is a little insider knowledge maybe it's just inside my
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  own head but is it because something's under the
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  underneath the table happening are things being worked out that maybe nick can
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  go on there i i'm just floating that out there i think it's actually happening
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  i think it is i might i might just be reading the tea leaves but i think it
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  is but let's hear what joe says years from now look like you know maybe someone
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  like that can win Well, we'll see.
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  I gotta be so bad. We gotta wrap this up anyway. I'm sorry, 418.
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  We got that one at the buzzer. Yeah. Well, listen, I will say this about it.
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  It's fascinating to watch that there's like a whole group of people that feel
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  very unrepresented in the world and especially like young men.
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  And here you got this young guy with a very high verbal IQ.
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  And he also does a lot of shit posting, a lot of talking shit,
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  a lot of trolling. says women shouldn't be allowed to vote. This is wild shit. Wild shit.
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  That one, I'm...
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  I am more, I think that that is actually valid.
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  I, and even though that might not be the most like respectable in our nation,
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  cause we're just, we're, we're told that like this of equal rights with everyone.
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  I get that why we've made that, but I understand it. I think there,
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  and I think this major backlash that Nick has been pushing forward.
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  And a lot of people are that men need to be men, you know?
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  And I think there is, there is reasoning behind it. I don't think it's the most
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  crazy thing, but I think the way that we're fed is that women should have exactly equal rights as men.
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  When we understand men and women have complementary roles, we're not the same, you know?
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  Women's sports and men's sports, there's obviously a difference.
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  And when we try to just make everything equal across the board,
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  we choke on our own just stupidity. And that Piers Morgan thing is like,
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  bro, that was like an expert sparring with someone who thought they were an expert.
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  Sure. Like, they're playing two totally different games. And it's also the thing
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  that people try to get Fuentes on is he's still funny as fuck. It's funny.
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  So that's where you're in a lot of trouble. When he hits him,
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  do you think the Holocaust, you made jokes about the Holocaust, he goes, too soon?
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  Like, dude. And you could see. He's wild. You could see, but you could see Piers
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  going, oh, fuck. Bro, when he was like, me mom died.
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  I was like, holy shit. Bro, he got hit. He got hit with a missile on that one
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  too soon. Too soon, I was like, oh my God.
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  Okay, so I think it's not at all the most...
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  Thing that everybody wants to hear nobody wants to hear this immediately it it when we're just,
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  raised and born in this political correctness that everybody has to say the
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  exact perfect thing what you have been fed your whole freaking life every day
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  and you if you step out of line,
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  that you be slapped and you immediately get thrown back into line i i don't
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  i like i said i do not agree with everything that nick is doing at all i don't
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  i the things that he says i i feel uncomfortable about it and I think that everybody
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  should feel a little bit, but he's.
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  An edgelord. He's testing all the lines. He's pushing all the boundaries.
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  And I think it's so we can almost come back to realignment.
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  I mean, bring it up about the Holocaust and all that. You know,
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  those are the things that like it, nobody wants to go there.
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  Nobody wants to talk about it. And I, I get that I'm, I'm on the other side.
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  I think that, yeah, we, we shouldn't probably, I, I stand more for the Jews
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  in a lot of ways than maybe Nick,
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  his leanings, because what he what he stands for when
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  you bring up the jews when you bring up people of
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  that race that ethnicity i think he's he's he's
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  not seen where where he where he is in
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  the whole thing because he i'm trying to like make boards because i feel like
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  really weird about this because i i am in this kind of like cognitive dissonance
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  where like i'm trying to like understand both sides of the argument and i think
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  that this is very hot water for a lot of people and he he's tested he's tested everyone.
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  He's made it clear where he stands on it, but he's coming from this,
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  that whiteness, this Roman Catholicism is, that is the fundamental view,
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  but it's the, it's just inserting himself in to what the Jews believe.
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  The Jews believe they are the race. They are the ethnicity.
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  They are the national identity that people should have. I think there is wiggle room for both sides.
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  There's four viewpoints. And I, that's why I don't identify with Roman Catholicism.
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  I'm not Catholic and I don't identify with Judaism. I'm not Jewish.
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  I don't, I'm not, I'm not there.
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  But I think that the, the real viewpoint, the good viewpoint is just Christianity
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  in general, the umbrella that we are all equal before God.
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  So I don't agree with Nick in a lot of ways, because he's coming at it from
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  just that viewpoint, that standpoint. And I think that that is what.
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  If we really pressed him, it's just he's he's hammering at the Jews and Israel so much.
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  It's because he thinks that Roman Catholicism has replaced that.
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  It has inserted itself into that and is like the the next level of that.
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  It's not. But Christianity is the one that allows everyone a part of it.
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  You don't you don't have to be singularly a part of one visible manifestation
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  on church of Roman Catholicism, because if you really get down to it,
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  he would say that, you know, Protestants are going to hell.
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  You know, anyone that's not in the church is going to hell. You know,
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  they're not, they're not a part of Christ. And I disagree with that. I disagree with that.
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  So, I mean, I know this bringing up, it's funny to talk, you know,
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  these things that he's just an edgelord about bringing up the Holocaust and
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  saying about it, it can be funny because that is, that is legitimate.
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  Too soon when everybody understands, yeah, we understand, we can talk about things.
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  People are making fun of things the next day now about if
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  something terrible happens because there's dark humor in it
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  i'm not saying it's great and i'm not saying
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  i agree with it but there is propaganda from both sides people don't want to
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  come from the jewish identity side that that is their they have created made
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  it an idol because they don't want something like that to ever happen against
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  so they're using it against everyone and.
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  As you can see, I'm in the middle. I don't, I'm not, and I think anyone that
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  is saying, everything that Nick says is gold and is perfect,
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  they're being fundamentally dishonest.
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  They're not, they're being intellectually stupid and they're just buying into
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  something, which I can call out what he is saying that's wrong and I disagree with.
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  And there's things that I agree with that he is paving the way.
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  He is allowing our society to maybe be shook up so that it can come back into a right alignment,
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  which is men need to lead women have
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  complimentary roles we're all equal before god and
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  women can do amazing things that guys can't do guys can
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  do things that women can't do everybody has distinct roles
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  and when you try to homogenize everybody to to become
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  one thing you lose everybody and you lose everything
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  and i think that that is the biggest thing that we need to keep and
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  if we try i i i lean more
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  towards that you know just that i i agree with like
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  a culture of of white identity and of nationalism
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  i think that of our our the united states
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  it functions better like that but i'm coming at from
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  my own bias i i'm coming at like what white
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  people have created and built it i think it's good and it's great and i think
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  a lot of people have flocked here and now everything's being transformed but
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  i'm coming from that cultural bias that's what i think is good but not everybody
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  agrees with that not everybody sees that same way and if we try to make everybody one thing everywhere.
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  All we are, there's no, there's no ability for diversity.
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  There's no way that people can get along. You know, I think that is where he's, he's so pigeonholed.
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  Nick is very pigeonholed into this Roman Catholic identity and whiteness,
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  you know, white movement that he, that he has, he has made it himself.
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  He has created himself and he's living it out. He's.
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  But I don't think it's truly the best outcome and conclusion of where we should go with all this.
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  But I think it is stirring things up and it's shaking things up.
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  And people need to be aware of that it's happening.
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  Because I struggle with this, like what America is.
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  And you could say like it's white people. And it's not. It's not.
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  It never has been. It never has been. You just have to be white.
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  But I think it is it is what the overall consensus in the culture that the European
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  white people have built is overall generally good.
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  So we don't have to destroy and say it's it's terrible, you know,
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  just to try to make everyone feel better.
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  Let's find whatever the best direction of everything. And if everybody is trying
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  to file in and get into America, there's got to be something that has been at
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  the foundational level, a good thing of what it was built.
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  What it was built on and why people are flocking to get here and they want to be here.
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  You know, I think it's, I think it's stupid how we, we always feel we can't say things.
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  We feel uncomfortable talking about certain areas because we know that it's
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  not, it's not palatable to so many people say what you think.
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  And I think Nick is, he's the pendulum that has swung everything in this direction.
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  I think overall it's, it's a good thing, but if we really follow out his train
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  of thought when he's, he's taken a little bit too far when he's telling people to go home.
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  I think America should be welcoming everyone, but there is a sense that really
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  that the European of whiteness and of, of creating of this, this,
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  this country that we have built is probably the best way that we should keep
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  it with the way that we should run with it, that we should build it going forward.
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  And I think that Nick has tapped into something like that. But when you try
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  to start throwing everyone out and saying that you're not a part of it and you
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  can't be a part of it, then I think you're going against even just the principles
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  and tenets of Christ himself.
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  This is a big umbrella, a big umbrella. But if we don't need to be,
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  I hate the identity politics that is all, and you see everything through that lens.
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  It's not a good way to live. It's not a healthy way to live.
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  But it is swinging everything back.
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  I think overall in the direction, almost to just break, break everything up
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  that needs to be broken up so that we can go forward and thrive as a nation. All right.
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  All right. We'll leave it at that. I hope Joe Rogan does bring Nick on.
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  He needs to, we need to see this and we will, we will learn things.
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  Joe will learn things. I just, I think he's been pushing it all way.
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  He doesn't want to go there.
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  It seems like, but overall I think it would be a good thing for,
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  for his show as well. and because he should not be afraid to bring anyone on.
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  He should talk to whoever is, who people want to hear from.
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  All right, we'll leave it to that. Follow me on X and Instagram at Brandon Fogle. Have a great day.