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Ohio State vs. Maryland: Pregame Show From Ohio Stadium · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome inside Ohio Stadium, site of today's game between the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes and the Maryland Terrapins. Kickoff at 4.15
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  Speaker 1: Eastern on Big Ten Network. I'm Tom Orr, joined by
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerderman of BuckeyeInsiders.com. Tony, it is homecoming week at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, which there's always some new and different stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I have not seen the enormous brown Brutus head down
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  Speaker 1: in the photo bunkers. We may not get that unique
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  Speaker 1: treat this year, but they did. We're going to make
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  Speaker 1: the thumbnail for this video. the midfield logo that they
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  Speaker 1: updated or, I guess, retrograded for this game.
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  Speaker 2: Retrodated? We'll workshop it later.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's a little bit of change, but it's also
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  Speaker 3: a throwback. So it's a good look. You guys obviously
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  Speaker 3: can see it on the thumbnail. But that's one of
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  Speaker 3: the benefits of the new field is they can alter
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  Speaker 3: some things.
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  Speaker 2: It handles paint well. It handles the removal of paint well.
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  Speaker 3: So they can make it customizable, which, Tom, if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to spend several million dollars on something, you know
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  Speaker 3: what's good?
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  Speaker 2: Make it customizable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm interested in what else they're going to
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  Speaker 1: have planned for later this year, but it feels like
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  Speaker 1: basically the world is their oyster in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: they want to do with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember asking somebody when this was all announced
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  Speaker 3: that is involved with the game day events. So does
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  Speaker 3: this mean on blackout days you can– Or when they
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  Speaker 3: have to wear the black jersey, you can paint the
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  Speaker 3: end zones black. And you're like, well, you know, like, wink. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't confirm nor deny, but maybe.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe we will see something like that for the
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  Speaker 1: Northwestern game.
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  Speaker 4: Who's to say? But before we get to Northwestern, we
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  Speaker 4: do have to talk a little bit about Maryland.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll start with the Maryland side of this.
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  Speaker 4: We always start with the Ohio State side. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to start with the Maryland side of this.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to do that because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we can sum up the Maryland side of this with
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  Speaker 1: one word.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they have a young quarterback who is
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  Speaker 3: in his second year as a starter, sophomore. They basically
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  Speaker 3: put everything on him. And as Michigan's kind of found out,
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  Speaker 3: that's not always the easiest thing to do. But also
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  Speaker 3: Maryland has dealt with a bunch of injuries in their secondary.
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  Speaker 3: They've got their starting corners are banged up. So even
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  Speaker 3: if they play, which they probably will play, being banged
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  Speaker 3: up in less than 100% against Ohio State's passing game
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  Speaker 3: is not Not good, and it's not just the starters.
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  Speaker 3: There's some reserves in there who play, some rotational guys
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  Speaker 3: who play who are banged up. So there's some issues there,
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  Speaker 3: but just the program as a whole, I think everybody
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  Speaker 3: is ready to move on so that once they do
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  Speaker 3: finally move on from Mike Loxley, they can get this
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  Speaker 3: rebirth and maybe a regeneration of money being allocated to
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  Speaker 3: the program as they try to keep some of the
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  Speaker 3: talented players from leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are based in an area, a region where
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot of talent, but the problem that
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  Speaker 1: they've had is they haven't been able to keep a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it home. They spent a bunch of money
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  Speaker 1: this year to keep some of the guys home, and
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  Speaker 1: the last year or two to try and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: essentially what Wisconsin's doing, where it's like, well, you can
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  Speaker 1: either spend a bunch of money on a buyout or...
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  Speaker 1: You can try and make this work with the current guy,
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  Speaker 1: and it's working for Wisconsin. It is not working for
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  Speaker 1: Maryland right now.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Depending on how this goes, this might be Mike Loxley's
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  Speaker 1: last game of his head coaching career. It might be
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  Speaker 1: his second-to-last game of his head coaching career because they
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  Speaker 1: have a bye week in a couple weeks.
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  Speaker 4: So it feels a little bit inevitable right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I termed it in the thing I
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  Speaker 3: just wrote this morning about the 10 things people will
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  Speaker 3: be saying after this game.
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  Speaker 2: I called it his farewell tour.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if he's being sent home with
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  Speaker 3: a chair of some sort like they've done with, like,
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  Speaker 3: NBA guys, you get sent home with whatever. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think Moriah Day is interested in sending Mike Loxley home
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  Speaker 3: with anything other than another L.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he might get a belt.
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  Speaker 1: That is how those games have gone for Maryland a
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  Speaker 1: lot over the last. They played nine times. Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: has won nine times.
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  Speaker 4: About two of them have been close.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of them down in College Park. Maryland has
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  Speaker 1: never really been competitive here in Columbus. And I'm certainly
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  Speaker 1: not expecting that this week because of the injuries that
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned.
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  Speaker 4: Talent gap as well.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Loxley was asked this week about can Maryland compete
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  Speaker 1: with the high level of the Big Ten in terms
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  Speaker 1: of keeping that talent home.
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  Speaker 4: And he started his answer with.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if they pass the rules about essentially capping the
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  Speaker 1: amount schools can spend, then yes. But the sort of
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  Speaker 1: unstated portion of that is under the current system, no.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is, that's not necessarily– even the
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  Speaker 3: new rules wouldn't be a cap. That would just be
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  Speaker 3: everybody can pay the players more out of the revenue share.
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  Speaker 3: The revenue share is the only thing that gets capped.
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  Speaker 3: The NIL stuff is still a free-for-all in terms of, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it would have to pass the CSC, but no Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State player is going to be limited to what they
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  Speaker 3: can earn by the revenue share. So that's nice for
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  Speaker 3: him to think that, but it's not the way it
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  Speaker 3: actually is because that's just one portion of the revenue.
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  Speaker 1: And that's probably going to be someone else's problem if
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  Speaker 1: and when something happens. So the if and when something happens,
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  Speaker 1: as far as the future of the Maryland football program,
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  Speaker 1: really feels like that's going to center a lot on
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  Speaker 1: how this game goes and just how bad this game
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  Speaker 1: goes and how bad this game gets. Because this is,
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  Speaker 1: from the Ohio State side, this is probably the last
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  Speaker 1: free space on the bingo card all season. I think
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  Speaker 1: before the year we looked and we said, Boy, they
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  Speaker 1: have a tough Big Ten schedule. Maryland and Northwestern are
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  Speaker 1: the only ones you look at and go, yeah, absolute
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  Speaker 1: no-problem wins. And now you look at Northwestern and how
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  Speaker 1: they've played, and it's like, boy, they'd probably rather have
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  Speaker 1: Penn State on the schedule this year than Northwestern.
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  Speaker 4: So Maryland is.
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  Speaker 1: Probably your last sure, no-problem, zero-stress kind of game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. And even with this one, it'll be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to see how Maryland operates because it seemed like last week,
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  Speaker 3: after that UCLA loss a couple weeks ago, You thought
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  Speaker 3: at Nebraska that they were just going to get completely
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  Speaker 3: worked over. And they fought for like two or three quarters.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, the team is not ready to
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  Speaker 3: give up. And then it was like 48-23 by the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game. This week, it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: How much fight is there from Maryland? And if there's none,
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  Speaker 3: then now is the time, right? They have a bye
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  Speaker 3: week after this game, right?
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  Speaker 4: They have Rutgers after this game and then a bye week.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like we all know what's going to happen. The
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  Speaker 3: other question is like, well, then who takes over now?
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  Speaker 3: And is there anybody worthy? I did hear a local
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  Speaker 3: radio show asking a Maryland beat writer like, so the
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  Speaker 3: next coach, do you think that's going to be an
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  Speaker 3: internal hire? And the reporter's like, no, no, no, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be internal. And I would
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  Speaker 3: certainly agree. Like it's time to move completely on from–
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  Speaker 3: All of this, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: It has been. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Generally, you have the internal hire if things are going
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  Speaker 1: pretty well and the coach moves on because things are
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  Speaker 1: going pretty well. If you're making a change because things
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  Speaker 1: are not going well, you are looking for a fresh start,
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  Speaker 1: and that is probably not going to be an internal hire.
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  Speaker 1: I will point out that old friend Matt Barnes is
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  Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator, the former Ohio State co-defensive coordinator in, what, 2021? Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He is probably the biggest name other than the special
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  Speaker 1: assistant to the head coach, Tony, who this is definitely
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  Speaker 1: information that I had in my brain more than five
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  Speaker 1: minutes ago. Speaking of old friends, I will tell you
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  Speaker 1: that it is someone who you will remember. His most
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  Speaker 1: memorable moment of his coaching career probably came during the
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  Speaker 1: Michigan 2017 season documentary on Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Pep Hamilton?
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  Speaker 4: It is old friend Pep Hamilton.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Who, in my head, I see his name and I
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  Speaker 1: hear him bemoaning John O'Korn's decision-making.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes, maybe Pep Hamilton, your interim Maryland head coach.
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  Speaker 1: But it is up to Ohio State to make Maryland
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  Speaker 1: have an interim head coach. And they certainly have the
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  Speaker 1: ability to do that today, whether that happens after the
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  Speaker 1: game or after the game, after the game. But this
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  Speaker 1: is a game that Ohio State, you know, you look
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  Speaker 1: at Maryland's defense has given up. They were, I think,
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  Speaker 1: 115th in points allowed per game, which is not great.
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  Speaker 1: And they were allowing over 30 points a game on average.
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  Speaker 1: And they've played Towson State and someone else who's not
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  Speaker 1: very good this year, and they've only played five games.
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  Speaker 4: So that's not outstanding.
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  Speaker 1: And this is, you know, you mentioned the guys being
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  Speaker 1: banged up. This feels like a game where you could,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm expecting big things from Jeremiah Smith in
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  Speaker 1: the first half because I think Ryan Day would like
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  Speaker 1: to get him his Heisman stats, get him his highlight
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  Speaker 1: play that shows up on college football final, and then
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  Speaker 1: get him out before the Indiana game next week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and these are not superfluous things. These are things like, well,
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  Speaker 3: we want to get him stats. Like, no, you want
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  Speaker 3: to score some points. Also, you can just two birds,
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  Speaker 3: one stone kind of thing because he is your most
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  Speaker 3: effective player.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, use him effectively.
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  Speaker 3: And I fully expect him to be kind of groundbreaking news.
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  Speaker 2: Involved early and often in this one. Big, if true.
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  Speaker 3: And, and then also like, what is Maryland trying to
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  Speaker 3: do to stop him? And what are they, what, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and then what is the Ohio state with Arthur Smith's
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  Speaker 3: adjustment to that? And, uh, you know, I'll be interested
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  Speaker 3: to see like, what, what are they doing to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is there always a safety over top? If not, is
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  Speaker 3: that when Julian's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's where I'm going.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this goes back to Ryan days.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, wonderful quote. Ryan day has really been a quote
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  Speaker 1: machine the last couple of weeks. And he talked about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he's talked to Julian saying that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, if he's single covered, he's open. If he's
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  Speaker 1: double covered, he's probably still sometimes open. If he's triple covered,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to go somewhere else. I would assume if
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  Speaker 1: I'm Maryland, I'm going in here and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: just sort of limit the damage and I'm probably playing
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  Speaker 1: back and saying Ohio State, just you go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: run the ball. That's how I would approach it if
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  Speaker 1: I was them and make Ohio State just kind of
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  Speaker 1: grind it out on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what they're going to do.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you're trying to force a turnover or two and
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  Speaker 1: try and make things work, but I don't think Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: Smith having a bunch of 70-yard touchdowns in the first
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  Speaker 1: two quarters is going to be something that leads to
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  Speaker 1: a competitive game in the second half. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: going one-on-one with Jeremiah Smith, you're going to get a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of 70-yard touchdowns in the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Devin McEwen being, at this point, questionable, that
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  Speaker 3: creates an issue where I thought this would be a
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  Speaker 3: perfect game for him to just explode because of the
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  Speaker 3: attention on Jeremiah Smith. And they were trying to... get
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  Speaker 3: him involved last week. They just couldn't pass protect. So
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  Speaker 3: can Maryland get to Julian Sane and create some issues there?
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  Speaker 3: Although Julian Sane was fine within that pressure. He was
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  Speaker 3: able to stand in there, take a hit, and then deliver.
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  Speaker 3: And if Maryland wants to keep their safeties back, Julian
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  Speaker 3: Sane is completely, perfectly happy to take eight-yard completions and
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  Speaker 3: just move the chains, pick up a third and two
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. He's okay just taking what is there to
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  Speaker 3: be to be had, but also will we see Brock Boyd,
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  Speaker 3: will we see Chris Henry Jr. get more involved if
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  Speaker 3: there is no Devin McEwen, or even if he's out there,
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  Speaker 3: how much do they want to put him out there, Brandon,
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  Speaker 3: in this the same way, where this is an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to get those young guys involved, get them the ball,
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  Speaker 3: and let them continue to build on what they've done,
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  Speaker 3: which is already a strong freshman season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we should mention that Devin McEwen, Brandon, is
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  Speaker 1: both on the availability report and not particularly likely to play,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe you see them for a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: this is one where You would rather have them take
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  Speaker 1: the week, get well, be ready for Indiana because you're
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  Speaker 1: going to need Brandon Ennis at times against Indiana. You
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  Speaker 1: do not need Brandon Ennis against Maryland. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that would be my approach there. And it does open
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  Speaker 1: up opportunities for Brock Boyd.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Henry Jr., Phillip Bell. I mean, and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you may see other guys too.
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  Speaker 1: Like this, this may be a game where you see
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Jerquaden Guilford or Des Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Did you mention Kyle Parker? I was watching. You know what?
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Parker is a great show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because he's someone who I feel like my brain has
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  Speaker 1: sort of filtered him out because we just haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: him all year, but he is healthy, ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: This is a real opportunity for him to show. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we really haven't seen him since the spring.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe this is the game where we, the first
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  Speaker 3: thing we're talking about after this game was, Hey, Kyle
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  Speaker 3: Parker adds something new to this offense.
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  Speaker 2: Who, you know, we'll see. But Ryan Day did say
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  Speaker 2: he's back. He's going to play. He said he's back.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why he wouldn't play Ryan Day. A
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  Speaker 3: couple weeks ago, I mentioned that when he did get back,
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  Speaker 3: he would, you know, just, he'd be a backup. And
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  Speaker 3: right now, the backups also need backups if they're a
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  Speaker 3: little thin right now, a little banged up, and they're
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  Speaker 3: going to keep things, some guys out. And yeah, if
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  Speaker 3: you want to get him, Kyle Parker, back in so
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  Speaker 3: that he might be something viable you can use against Indiana,
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  Speaker 3: 40 snaps, like, 35, 25, something.
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  Speaker 2: Just get his feet wet and then also a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to get a decent amount of run.
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  Speaker 1: It can't be 12 snaps in the fourth quarter. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to get him out there and kind of give
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  Speaker 1: him a chance to get his feet under him and
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  Speaker 1: show what he can do against good competition in a
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  Speaker 1: somewhat competitive game or the point in a game at
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  Speaker 1: which it's somewhat competitive.
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  Speaker 2: He could be a guy that plays all four quarters.
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  Speaker 4: He could. Yeah, entirely possible.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, that's probably a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: conditioning question because, again, you're coming back, you haven't been
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  Speaker 1: 100% for a long time. Conditioning is always sort of
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  Speaker 1: a question in those kind of moments.
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  Speaker 4: The offensive line is another.
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  Speaker 1: Spot where we're going to look at the availability report
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  Speaker 1: and you sort of scratch your head because it feels
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  Speaker 1: like for weeks it's been, well, Phil Daniels might be
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  Speaker 1: back this week and he hasn't been back and he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been back and he hasn't been back and They
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  Speaker 1: were certainly hoping to get him back this week, and
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  Speaker 1: it feels like it's once again trending that maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: And even if he was back, Tom, do they want
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  Speaker 3: to change the offensive line one week before going to Indiana?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Don't they want to keep.
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  Speaker 3: The same offensive line they've had since Game 3 now?
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  Speaker 3: And whether the best offensive line down the road is
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  Speaker 3: one that involves Phillip Daniels, I don't think his immediate
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  Speaker 3: return makes that line the best option that they have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think everybody still wants to see him and see
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  Speaker 3: what it looks like. But the timing on all of
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  Speaker 3: this has just been really bad for him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it feels like one of the biggest drivers
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  Speaker 1: of this decision is how well Austin Searveld has played
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  Speaker 1: at tackle, where he's just been really, really good. Do
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  Speaker 1: you want to take a guy who has been, sure
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  Speaker 1: thing is probably a little strong, but he's been very
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  Speaker 1: good at tackle. Do you want to take him and
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  Speaker 1: move him off of there and move him back to Garber?
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  Speaker 1: He's also been very good. But do you want to
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  Speaker 1: have a vulnerability, at least a potential vulnerability, where it's
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  Speaker 1: a question mark at tackle?
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  Speaker 4: That feels like that's kind of driving this conversation a
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  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 3: And still, what are your best five? And is Gabe
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  Speaker 3: Van Sickle better? Is the offensive line better with Gabe
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  Speaker 3: Van Sickle at right guard or better with Phillip Daniels
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  Speaker 3: at right tackle? And maybe the question that can't be
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: answered now and probably can't be answered during the season,
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: what about Phillip Daniels finally At right guard. If he
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: knows he's not going to play in front of Austin
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Searveld at right tackle, is he finally convinced? And I'm
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: not saying he's never been convinced or he's put his
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: foot down or whatever. It's just we've never seen him
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: at right guard. So is now the time where he's like, okay.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: And does he have that kind of versatility?
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's the kind of thing you'd love to
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: find out in the spring.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is one of the things we talked
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: about in the spring. It's one of the things we
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: talked about in fall camp.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Ryan Day has mentioned it.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: And it hasn't happened, so.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: You know, we don't know that Philip Daniels has said no,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: but it feels like if they've talked about it openly
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: in public and they really haven't obviously explored it, there's
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: only so many potential explanations as to why. You do wonder, well,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: if you're not starting this week, starting next week, because
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Austin Servo has been so good at right tackle, would
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: you like that decision over again?
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: You might.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: So there's the offensive line. Running back, we get it
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: just real quickly. I feel like you're going to see
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Bowe. You're going to see a bunch
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: of Jacoby. You're going to see a bunch of.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Isaiah West. How much Munchen Bay, if any, do you
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: see this week?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have no idea.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: The number is 0.5 carries. And I don't know what
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: to do. And if he doesn't play this one, and
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: it's a 28-35 point game and he doesn't play, that
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: tells you there's still a long way for him to go.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Which is unfortunate because he was a part of the
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: offense in that first game.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: somebody that they wanted to get involved. He's still obviously
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: somebody they want to get involved. But if they're worried
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: about trusting him in-game, well, then in a game that
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: he can't possibly lose and you're still not able to
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: play him, then it becomes an even bigger issue. There's
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: more work to be done through all of this, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: that's something that they're going to have to figure out
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: in terms of what is the best way to get
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: him to buy in, and I know people on Twitter
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: or whatever say, well, why don't the seniors talk to him?
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Why don't the coaches talk to him? Everybody is talking
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: to him. Nobody is like, gosh, I just wish he
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: would get it. The coaches aren't like that. Maybe if
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: somebody would just talk to him, it's like the coaches
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: are there talking to him.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure when you have a very talented, true freshman
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: running back, and Maurice Claret is around the program, I'm
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: sure Maurice Claret has had a conversation or two with
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: him about, hey– Let me tell you about my experience
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and how it ended. And it didn't end the way
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: that it could have. And Maurice Claret learned those lessons later.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: If you can learn some of those lessons earlier, boy,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you can get a much better, much happier ending.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: We should switch over to the defense at least a
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And, man, this could be a big play defensive week
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: for Ohio State because a couple pick sixes from Malik Washington.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Last week for Maryland.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And, man, I don't think they're going to be able
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to run the ball all that well because they haven't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: been able to run the ball really against anyone yet.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And it feels like they have just kind of looked
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: at Malik Washington and.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Gone, uh, you fix it a lot. And it hasn't
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: gone great.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Mike Loxley got asked at his midweek press conference about,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: do you see similarities between Malik Washington and Bryce Underwood,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: which is not a comp you want thrown on you
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: as a talented sophomore quarterback.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: And Loxley basically said, like, yeah, I don't want to
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: get into that whole thing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But, you know, they're asking him to do a lot
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and to just kind of, you know, figure it out.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And this is not a team where you're going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: look at the defense and go, yeah, oh, yeah, it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: should be fine. We'll make something work.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: No, and this is an opportunity for the corners and
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the secondary to make some plays. But also, they're going
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to be attacked. And this is not a group of
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: corners that have been perfect this season. So they've given
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: up some plays and wouldn't shock me if the same
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: thing happens because– Maryland is going to throw the ball
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: a bunch. They have 41 passes per game this season,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: which is third in the nation.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: They're going to be.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Presumably behind for much of this game. So they're going
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: to be throwing all kinds of passes, and some of
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: those are going to hit. Some of those won't. I
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: expect more to not, but also won't shock me. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: think that's one of the reasons I haven't won 17
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: points in this game, because I do just I think
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: they will hit something.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Like, Maryland generally.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Has some pretty good receiver talent, and they do have
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: some more in this team this year.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And so let's get into score predictions then. I had
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Ohio State 52, Maryland 10. And it just feels like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this is a game where, I mean, if Ohio State
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to put up 70 points, they probably could.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: If this was the.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Most important thing, was putting up 70 points this week,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you could absolutely do that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: You got Indiana on deck.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I do think this is a game where you're going
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to see the starters play the first half and probably
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a drive or two in the second half. Maybe not
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, but a lot of the starters into the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: second half, a couple drives.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: But then when you bring in Luke Fahey and you.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Know probably more carries for isaiah west at that point
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: we'll see about legend bay at that point that's an
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: opportunity let's see what brock boyd can do we've seen
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like flashes of block brock boyd and chris henry jr
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in the passing game this is one where you're bringing
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in your backups at that point you're not running it
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: up to You know, to keep throwing the ball. These
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: are valuable reps for these young guys. There are no
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: more guarantees after this about games where those young guys
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: are going to get meaningful reps.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to keep throwing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this could be 38-10 at halftime or 38-7 or
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: 38-3 at halftime and then finish at 52-10, something like that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: That 52-10 was the first score I had in my
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: head as I'm writing my score prediction out. But I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: was like, no, let me add one more touchdown. And
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I'm thankful that I did because you had 52-10. I,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: of course, picked the correct score, 52-17. But, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: watching the– I do think they will want to throw
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: the ball in the second half. Like we're being very
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: presumptuous that Ohio State is going to be way out
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: in the head now.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Does the word presumptuous mean what.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: We're making some assumptions and some presumptions that things are
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: going to go as expected. So that's, you know, sometimes
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: we do that, but I still want to see the,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: like whoever the backup is or the third string. And like,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I still want to see Luke Fahey throwing the ball.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Still want to see those receivers catching passes and trying
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to move the ball because again, this is going to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: be the last time that you have an opportunity again,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: presumably for that backup and those backups to make plays
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: and to see it work for them to, to, create
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: some film to work off of because the idea that
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: this will be the last game that Luke Fahey is
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: going to play this season, that's very presumptuous.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: No, yeah. This is the last game that I think
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you can go in pretty much guaranteed that Luke Fahey
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: is going to play. it's definitely not the last game that,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you know, you watch Julian saying it hit last week,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Luke Fahey is one snap away at any point.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: And so that's why you really have to key.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: You have to give him as many good, useful reps
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: with the, in the system, reading the defense, not just handing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: The ball off.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: That is super, super important with him being the next
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: man up there. You got to have him ready because
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you are, you are one play away and you've, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you've seen quarterbacks get hurt and that, you know, You've
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: seen Ohio State in 2014 have a very good result
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: from that, and you have seen teams have a very, very.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Bad result from that.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Florida State in 2023, whatever year the Jordan Travis injury was,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: where Brock Glenn was the backup, the former Ohio State commit,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and it was just like, nope, not ready for prime time.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Your backup has to be ready for prime time, or
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that can derail the season. So yeah, they have to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: have him ready. That's why I'm sort of expecting that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So what will they do? How will the game go?
• 22:41
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• 22:43
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• 22:46
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• 22:48
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• 22:50
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• 22:53
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• 22:56
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• 22:59
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